Seeking Derangements - SD 470: MJS–Freejack (feat. Masha Breeze)
Episode Date: January 28, 2026Today on Movie Jacqueset, Hesse, Jacques and Masha discuss the classic film Freejack, one of the thousand low-budget sci-fi action movies from the early 90’s that’s amazing and very bad. They disc...uss Mick Jagger’s incredible accent work, the philosophical implications of The Eagle Speech, and the beautiful Jack-centric climax!
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Jacques, do you want to do an intro?
Sure.
Okay.
A dystopian future where richest billionaires come from the past and kidnap you to use your body to destroy your pain through lobotomies and then continue on as if nothing had happened.
This is the story of one freejack.
A book movie based production based on the science fiction book, Immortality.
It is a story of sci-fi Odyssey.
starring Mick Jagger as the villain.
We've got a lot of incredible acting cameos
and his science fiction Odyssey forgotten by time and space
with an original budget of only $30 million
producing one of the most glorious movies
to taste your savory lips.
That is kind of a crazy budget for this movie.
It's insane.
It does like, hello everyone.
It, Masha is here also.
By the way, thank you so much for coming on today.
Masha is a really famous writer, taste maker, model, actress.
Did you say sheik?
Continue.
No, thank you, Jack.
First of all, I don't know how accurate your description of the movie was, but, I mean, that's fine.
But, like, the first thing I'll say is that bad movies used to be so fucking good.
back in the day.
They used to have soul.
They used to have chutzpah.
You know what I mean?
They used to be like, we're going to make a bad movie.
What the hell is that?
It's going to be, it's what this movie has.
I mean, it's free jack.
It's free jack down to the bone, baby.
It's like a type of stew.
It's a Hungarian stew.
Hungarian stew, yes.
And Hungarian stew actually was the stunt coordinator on the
movie. Yeah, and he does an amazing job. Yeah, executed for war crimes. They did a really crazy
thing after they executed him. They cut him in half down the middle and they put one half of him on
one side of the road, buried him, and then they buried the other half on the other side of the road.
I literally hate when that happens. That's like literally my least favorite thing. I wake up and I'm
like, oh no, the man's been split in half. Again, in the side of the roads. A period. But, yeah,
Before we get sidetracked, it's too late.
But Freejack is, it's a science fiction movie from 1992.
And the thing about Free Jack is that it's amazing.
It's so good.
It's incredible.
It's about a little, a young boy named, uh, well,
can I give my, my pitch for it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like, imagine a future where everyone is kind of gay and has Mark Hamill face.
Yeah, yeah.
Like they all have, they all...
No, but they all have the same kind of like pitted sort of scary skin that Mark
Hamill had after the car accident.
Yeah.
Well, I think his skin really started looking like that when he became just old and not like, you know.
No, no, no, but there's like the, whatever it is, the third or fourth Star Wars, or no,
the third one where like he comes on and his face is just different and they try to play it off as
the like attack by the Arctic monster thing.
Yeah, yeah.
And his skin just looks fucked.
Yeah, because I feel like his skin and the fugitive looks bad too.
That's Mark.
I don't think, I do not think Mark Hamill.
I think you're thinking of Harrison Ford.
Oh, yeah.
They just both kind of like men.
They both kind of like men.
And that is so true.
Speaking of Harrison Ford's character in the conversation is gay.
no no wait hold on pause really quickly the fugitive is harrison ford i had to google it it's tommy
i just said that yeah oh i thought you said it wasn't and i was like no i'm not wrong no mama
okay okay but basically free jack is here's what happens in free jack okay it we open up first
well in there was an amazing period between like 1984 and 1994 where they would just make
fucking anything they would give give you like 45 million dollars like to make the
a movie called like a wedlock or something about like a future where uh you and a woman a man and a woman have
exploding bomb collars on and they have to stay within 20 feet of each other.
And they have to solve them.
That's a real movie, by the way.
And it's another one that we're going to do eventually.
Are you serious?
Yeah, starring Rudger Howard.
I was just like making that up on the top.
And I was like, wow, she really is a screenwriter.
It's starring Rudger Hauer and Joan Packard from Twin Peaks.
Who is Joan Packard and Twin Peaks if you, I don't know?
It's the one Chinese character.
Oh, yeah.
But basically, this movie, the thing I love about this movie is that it starts off and it's like a real cute, like honestly, maybe kind of problematic size and age gap relationship between René Russo, who is six foot six and Emilio Estevez, who is five foot one.
and they are in love.
I do like,
they do have good chemistry
in this movie,
I feel.
Like,
even though the lines
that they're given
to deliver are,
there are some lines that I'm like,
uh,
you,
Renee Russo in the first scene,
it says,
well,
that,
the lines of this movie are like non-stop bangers.
They're in,
24 seconds.
Like every,
he,
uh,
Emilio Estevez is a,
a race car driver named
Alex Furlong
Alex Furlong yes and he
is dating Renee Rousseau
who will be referred to
as René Rousseau exclusively
Well her real character's name is
Julie Redlin and also
Hess is completely right it's like
not even just an inappropriate
age gap hypothetically
but the height that Renee Rousseau
has over Emilio Estevez is like
a power dynamic
that cannot be solved through therapy.
She towers over him.
There's like there's a line early on where so he's a race car driver and they're like,
they're getting him ready for the big race day.
And Renee Rousseau is like, what do you think the other driver's wives will be wearing?
And he goes, wives.
And she goes, it was a slip of the tongue, Alex.
And then he goes, I like that slip.
I like that tongue too.
Period.
It feels like a kid who's been groomed.
into like, like, trying to flirt with adults.
Yeah, it's like a teacher who, uh, it's like a kid whose teacher is grooming him,
like a teacher and he's trying to like flirt with her.
But like, Hessa, you told me you wouldn't talk about my third grade experience on the podcast again.
I mean, the thing I really love about this movie is that, I mean, the opening shot is a bit of a tea.
it's a bit
you know
because the beginning
for a little bit
it looks like
you know
just a normal
race car movie
a normal race car
style movie
and
but the opening shot
is
a building
being driven
what looks like
a building
being driven down the street
and you're like
okay
what was that about
and in the midst
of this normal
race car movie
it's very flirty
to the couple
or they just like
look like
the happiest
most like
normal
couple, they couldn't have a problem in the world,
just do the race car drive, honey,
and then we can fuck after.
Yeah, exactly.
And, like,
in the midst of this normal style
movie,
it suddenly cuts to
Mick Jagger,
who is dressed like
a moron.
And he says something,
like, turn the laser to one trillion.
And then, like,
that is when you know
that this movie is about to cook.
Like, this movie is about to go crazy.
and like the
like
then it cuts back to them at the race
um
Renee Russo says one of the most
like uh
you know
a Dutch person writing an American
woman lines I've ever heard
you're hot rock and roll driving
it's like
it's not like for what they got
John Claude Van Dam to do a punch up on this
yeah it's like they just used
the translation from
Japanese to...
Yeah, yeah.
And then he replies,
hey, you drive your typewriter.
I'll drive my race car.
And she says, it's a computer.
And, you know,
it's like he doesn't know about technology.
And she gets
deadly serious and nibbles
his ear in public.
Oh, yeah, he's like, nibble my ear for good luck,
so I win the race.
Yeah. And then it cuts to
his like manager who is played by the lead singer of the New York dolls.
Yeah, David Johansson, I had to, I was like, I know who this guy is.
Hessa, I got to look it up.
I was shocked to find this out.
Yeah, Jacques, like, was so shocked that he called me when he, like, called me on the phone
when he found this out.
Well, there was so excited to tell me.
There was just so many fucking characters from, or really good actors and actress
from other movies, Amanda Plummer from Pulp Fiction and also from, I mean, just every
good move freeway, Jonathan Banks from Better Call Saul, Frankie Frazon from The Wire. I mean,
you just could not ask for Andy Hopkins. I mean, come on. The cast is a crazy stacked cast, yeah.
Yeah, but anyways, you know, there's, you know, we got to speed it up a little bit because we're
not even at the, we're really not even at the dense part. Yeah. But there is one more thing I want to
mention the his manager the the lead singer of the new york dolls is like hey look um let's go into
this tent and i'll introduce you to uh the sponsors and he brings him into like tent and this like this guy is
like hi i have a like a company that uh like i'll give you like 20 million dollars or whatever to
you know race around the track and he's like why don't you go fucking kill yourself you fucking
fagget or he's like and it's like okay this is this is like okay this is
is literally like a child that is doing this. And then, like, lap one of this race, he
launches his, somehow launches his car 100 feet in the air and hits a bridge that is very,
like, you know, like, there's a crazy crash. The crash doesn't really make sense because
they're just driving down the fucking racetrack as fast as they can. All of a sudden, his car is
like launched into the fucking air. His girlfriend's like,
like, next!
It looks incredible, though.
Like, it's a really cool effect.
And, honey, they will be replaying that crap.
If you miss it, do not worry.
Because they get their money's worth.
They absolutely do.
They play it every second that they can.
Yeah.
And, you know, like, suddenly,
I keep wanting to call it Michael Douglas.
But Emilio Estevez is in,
the future, okay?
And this is a one of,
this movie does one of my favorite movie
that takes place in the future things
where it posits that in the future,
it will be nighttime.
A prediction that you just cannot fuck up.
Like, it's true.
It will be nighttime in the future.
And, you know, Mick Jagger,
they're like trying to resurrect him.
And then right after they resurrect him,
they're like, okay, we got to, like,
shut off his brain.
and then, you know,
will,
you know,
take him,
like they're in the future.
It's one of those futures
where, like,
they're burning trash cans everywhere
and there's, like,
metal door,
metal, like,
doors on every single door.
And,
also,
all the cars in the future in this movie
look like if Tesla
had been just,
like, a little bit gayer
and a lot rounder.
Yeah, yeah.
But there is also, like,
kind of a surprising variety.
Like,
there are some cars.
that basically look like just cars from the 90s with like shit put on them.
And then there are other ones that are from like like 2,200 that are just like sort of
orbs moving around.
Yeah.
Like my favorite example of this is the car at the end where it's like bring bring around my car
from my roll, my pierce arrow from like from 1912.
So I can take it for a spin.
There's also like as the doctor.
are reviving him that I just wrote down like one of my favorite lines from the movie thus far,
which is they're like trying to restart his heart.
And then they finally do.
And one of the doctors goes, well, I wouldn't want to dance to it, but that's a pulse.
Yeah, this, okay, we should talk about who wrote this movie because do you, are either of you
aware of who wrote this movie?
No.
This movie is written by Dan Gilroy, who you may know as the brother of Tony Gilroy and one of
the lead staff writers on Andor
um
writer of literally like a
fantastic writer like but this very clearly was like he
uh was
I don't know what was going he was like
all right I'll just I'll write something in 25 minutes
on the back of the napkin and then this will be
the movie so every once in a while there are like
amazing moments in it and you know like
I also like the thing about these kinds of like bad sci-fi movies from the 90s is like the
they do this thing where the like no matter how bad they are almost universally the production
design the costumes like all like all this shit the prop design it all like goes so hard and
like 80% of the time it goes hard and then like every once in a while it'll be like okay now like
you know here's a normal gun half of the people use normal guns in this movie half of the people use laser guns
lasers yeah um you know there's a lot of like shit like that but like uh and like this movie
really does look like kind like it kind of looks fantastic and like especially for what it is
um you know there are cool shots and stuff but he's he's he's in the
the future now. He breaks free because
a faction
attacks the
the big
the building that he's driving
that has Emilio Estevez in it.
There are maybe like six factions in this movie.
It's unclear at any point which one
who is who?
There's just scenes where
everyone is walking in like a busy
kind of crowded dystopian
future New York Street.
and like six or seven people just start shooting at each other
and people are kind of just standing around at first.
Yeah, like another thing that I just noticed
that's like kind of different in this movie about than like other of,
because I've seen a ton of movies like this, like Fortress or like, you know,
there's like Christopher Lambert is in like 90 of these movies.
Like they're usually in these movies there's like an underground resistance
faction. And in this one
there's not. Like there just isn't.
Yeah, yeah. And it's just like
but
But in spite of that like everywhere they go is also a
war zone.
Like everywhere in the future of
like it's like they're in Manhattan. It's future
Manhattan. The year
is like I think it's 2009 because it's supposed to be
18 years after
1991.
Yeah. And so he like wakes up in the
future escapes from this like
the fucking building full of peacekeepers or like stormtroopers that Mc Jagger is driving.
And then immediately he's like thrown out into this war zone and he hails a taxi cab.
Yeah.
And the taxi driver turns around and goes, this neighborhood is not good.
I love what my favorite thing.
And then the taxi cab driver immediately pulls a gun on it.
Yeah, when he pulls like the, one of my favorite moments is the cab driver's like,
fucking gets out of the car
and Emilio Estavis runs and the cab driver
just starts also shooting at him.
It's like,
but he agroed
everyone in GTA. He's running.
He's like four stars. This guy can't
get a break. Yeah.
The, um, oh my God, the amount
of times it says in my notes,
quote, Mick Jagger
being like, I got to put
on my helmet for this.
Yeah.
Also, a line that happened like two seconds,
before the caravan gets attacked
and Furlong makes his escape from the doctors
and from the whole caravan.
Mick Jagger goes,
we've got to get going until we get to the security zone.
Every line he delivers in this movie,
he's like obviously just fell off the coconut tree.
Yeah, there's,
it's not clear until maybe like 45 to 50 minutes.
It's a really long movie too, by the way.
It's like, it's not, it's not even,
two hours long, but it
does feel a little lengthy
because just so much happens in it.
But Mick Jagger, it's not clear until 50
minutes in, but he is trying to do an accent.
I think it ends up coming
out South African, kind of.
It's almost a flawless
South African accent.
Is that not what he sounds like normally?
We should also mention Mick Jagger is the villain
in this movie. It's
But one of many.
Also, his character's name is so insane.
It's Vincent Vakna.
Vondadoc.
Vondadok?
How do you say?
I know you have it written down and you're trying to, and you genuinely cannot read it.
No, I'm looking at the, I'm reading it from the internet.
I know, I know.
So I just can't read.
Vicendac.
Lucindac.
Vesendac.
But basically, you got a Lucindic, buddy.
You know, Emilio Ves escapes.
He then encounters a nun.
Played by Amanda Plummer, by the way.
Played by Honeybun from...
Who immediately pulls the shotgun on, out on him.
So he's broken into a church.
He's managed to sleep through the night.
The sister is walking towards him, and he slowly wakes up, and she's like,
sorry, son, you can't sleep here.
And then she pulls out a double-barrel shotgun in his face.
Mm-hmm.
And then she goes,
Holy shit.
And, like, she is a really cool character.
Yeah.
That in this scene says one of my...
She explains the plot of this movie.
Basically, in the past, if someone dies, they, like, teleport.
They can teleport them into the future.
And, like, right at the moment right before they're about to die.
so that a billionaire can like transplant their mind into their body.
Their soul into their body.
Well, he says he, this is one of my favorite lines of the movie where he asks,
you mean like a brain transplant?
And she says, no, a mind transplant.
Which is incredible.
Also, those people who were, like the bodies from the past are called freejacks and the people
who are trying to get them meeting like Mick Jagger
are called Bone Jackers.
Okay, I, okay, so I'm unclear on who Bonejackers are.
Like, because I, I could swear to God,
Mick Jagger at the beginning says like,
bonejackers, attack them.
Like, and I'm like, I think like, I truly, like,
it's useless to try and figure out who the bonejackers are.
It's best not to try to make this movie
into something that you can really understand clearly
because you won't be.
able to. It's a lot more easy to
understand than a Christmas karate miracle.
I'll say that much. I took about
three hours of extra rewatching
to understand what the fuck had happened.
Yeah, that's a movie that
we watched Masha, me, and Jock.
But basically,
the nun gives him a normal
gun and
new clothes and sends him to
Sector 7, aka Park Slope.
That's what we should start calling
Park Slope will make me to New York.
I know. Like the idea of like it
over the course of 18 years at
some point during that, they're like,
okay, Park Slope, it's, it's,
Park Slope is now sector
seven.
Like, the,
um,
the idea of that happening is really good for.
I go to that neighborhood.
I know, period.
Um, oh,
also at some point before this, there's a,
there's a brief scene where Alex
tries to get back to his like old apartment and,
uh,
finds out that a,
black family is living there now and tries to like kick them out of their home.
Yeah, it's the,
there's a lot, there's one part with a black guy in this movie later that we'll get to.
Well, there's, let me just really quickly confirm.
There's several parts with several black people.
Grand Al Bush playing Boone, playing Julie Redland's Batty Guard.
Okay, wait, we'll get to it.
Okay, but like, uh, yeah, jog, joc, joc, we'll get to all that.
want to like get two two sidetracked right up the bat but like also there's there's a lot of
brief scenes in this movie like there are scenes that last maybe seven seconds long um and uh one of
them were introduced to uh mike from breaking bad who's like a corporate exec.
Jonathan Banks and he's playing a character named Mark Michelette.
Yes um and like the like this so um
And he's trying to get, he's trying to get Emilio Estevez.
And Mick Jagger's hired by him, basically.
And so Mick Jagger, or not Mick Jagger, Emilio Estavis goes to Park Slope, Sector 7,
looking for his girlfriend, or looking for his old manager.
And it's this part, it's almost like a joke about this movie because he gets there.
and he's like, asks a guy like,
excuse me, do you know where this address is?
And the guy pulls a gun.
Like, a huge
fire fight starts in the street
that, like, is not relevant
at all to the, and he just
skips it. He just walks into a building,
and it's still going on outside.
And, like, yeah, it's literally, like,
one of those, like, moments in GTA5 were,
or, like,
50 people in the lobby are just all shooting each other
of all at once and all you feel is the vibration of your controller next to you for about 20, 30 minutes.
It's like in doom when you can get monsters to fight each other for a little bit.
But he meets his old manager.
The old manager is like, hey, good to see you.
Like, let's go fucking, let's go to this restaurant.
In the midst of this part, Mick Jagger's talking to is hot as fuck, a confidant named
Ripper.
Yeah.
And he...
Played by a Sally Moraz.
This, with a gun to my head,
I could not tell you a single...
I could not explain a single thing that happens.
Like, he's like,
go ahead.
Try your luck.
And then the guy, like, puts his hand on a table and says a sequence of numbers.
And a TV screen says clear.
And Mick Jagger goes,
I wasn't testing.
you. I was testing the machine.
And I don't know if you guys noticed this.
I think I only noticed this because I've seen this movie a bunch of times.
And like this, on this watch, this was my first time noticing this.
But Mick Jagger has this metal container filled with six or seven different types of, like, different colored dust.
And he's pinching it and putting it into like a burlap sock,
with a beak on it.
And it's like,
what the,
I, like,
that was like,
what the fuck is going?
Because you know,
like some prop designer was like,
I had this,
some coaked up prop designer
being like,
I had a great idea.
This is,
this is how they do drugs
in the future.
By the way,
with a $30 million dollar budget
for 1992,
and it's still the props
and everything looks so incredible,
I think the only thing they cheaped up on was special effects,
but I guess that they weren't really that available at the time.
Mm-hmm.
I mean, like, the, basically his manager betrays him and, you know,
Brad, played by David Johansson, the New York Dolls guy.
Yeah.
Who also has one of the most fucked up Mark Hamill faces on, like, I don't want to harp on it too much,
but I swear to God, like, the casting people for this movie were like,
how many, like, fucking Jonathan.
and Banks, Mick Jagger, they were like, how many men with skin that looks like feta cheese can we get in one movie?
Anthony Hopkins.
Okay, but also, like, Masha, it's literally a plot point in the movie because, like, he tells him at what he tells him at one point, like, uh, like, David Johansson tells Alex for a long, like, you look too healthy.
You got to look like shit like me and everyone else.
because it's apparently like he's like there's no ozone layer so there's like bromide and uranium in the air
and also there are like stronger like future drugs now yeah like all of the drugs are different and
stronger there's well there's some drink that he that uh Alex Furlong gets served later on in the
ball yeah we'll get in the house of yes and yeah oh oh wait that's the house of yes
no I was like that's crazy that was that old
I really believe that for a second
he's looking for his girlfriend turns out she's still alive
she lives in Manhattan in Battery Park
they're in Brooklyn this whole time
Manhattan is like very nice it looks like
demolition man and she's negotiating a business deal
in front of the wall of flesh from Videodrome
and like
the business deal is like
a group of Japanese businessmen.
Yeah, she tells the Japanese businessmen,
like, we want the mineral rights.
And they're like, okay.
And everyone's like, you're the best fucking negotiator
I've ever seen in my life.
Yeah, there's virtually no negotiation.
She's like, just goes, we must have it.
And then he literally just,
Emilio Estevez just walks into her office in this like in like the corporate headquarters.
He's like, I'm your boyfriend.
I can prove it.
Here.
Here's the proof.
You gave me this before my final race.
Wait, well, first of all, he breaks into her home, I thought.
No, it's her office.
And like, which is even crazier.
And then he starts driving around a boat filled with champagne because she triggers the
alarm. She doesn't believe him.
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
You're, this is, it's getting, it's not a boat filled with champagne.
It is a car with a boat on top of it that is the both of the sides open up like as if,
like a traditional old style wine rack or champagne rack.
I think, oh no, I'm just realizing, Chuck.
I think it's supposed to be like a ship of the line.
Like, those are like the cannons in this, uh, ship, if you will, the, the champagne.
you know what I mean, which, by the way, they don't take advantage of that.
Like, they should have, like, the corks should have, like, a cork should have flown out into
some guy's eye.
But it's, this is, this chase scene, like, clearly they spent so much money on this chase
scene, and it looks really good.
But the, like, what's going on in this chase scene is basically like, uh, they have to
capture his body without damaging him, but they, he's also murking every single other.
Well, I don't even know if he's driving and people are just killing themselves all around him.
Like, um, well, the whole thing is he's a race car driver. He could lead anyone to his death except
himself. Yeah. Yeah. Well, then Mick Jagger facetimes him like from his car and his like,
hey, Furlong, it's Vesndac. As though he, like, as though Emilio Estabas would know who the fuck that is.
They've never met before. They're like having a conversation as they're like, having a conversation as
though they're like mortal enemies.
And Alex,
aka Emilio Estabez,
has a bunch of lines where he's like,
come on, Vicendac,
you couldn't,
you can't catch me.
You couldn't catch the clap
if you were in a whorehouse.
And they're just like taunting each other over FaceTime.
And Mick Jagger,
just a fun note about this movie.
There's an interview with Mick Jagger
where he's like,
they asked him about this movie and he's like,
yeah, I, you know,
they asked me to be in this movie and I said,
I said,
go ahead, send me the script.
And they said, well, you know, we got to start shooting.
We have to start shooting in two weeks.
And I just said, you know, I'll, yes, I'll be in it.
And, you know, if they had sent me the script, I probably wouldn't have said yes, you know.
But he's like, but we had some grand fun when shooting it.
We were in Atlanta.
And me and Emilio Osteves, we went to these Atlanta strip clubs, you know.
down in Atlanta, they do that instead of going to the bar or a restaurant, they go to strip clubs, you know, for fun.
It's just, you know, popping out to go to the strip club.
Like, it's an incredible interview.
And by the way, this movie was exclusively filmed in New York and Atlanta.
Yeah, the, um, basically, after the chase, Vesendac is like, is like, damn, this guy is really good.
Can I say one really quick thing?
The climax of the chase is that they're going down a bridge where there are two trucks blocking the exit.
And the only other option that Furlong has is to jump off of the side of the bridge into the water.
And the special effects at this exact moment are the only thing that took me out of the entire movie.
It was a 99.9.9% perfect movie.
This is the only scene.
It's just like his outline is like very two like, it's very like Olivia Soprano.
Yeah, like photoshopped.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the, yeah, he basically he kills himself.
He jumps off this bridge into the water.
And this is, this is, I believe it was the George Washington Bridge that he's going.
No, it's not the George.
It's, um.
I think it's the Williamsburg Bridge.
yes it's the Williamsburg bridge
that he is going across
which it like
is not the tallest bridge
but you like you could
you would die like
he jumps off and he is like
literally it's so funny like he jumps
off of the bridge
and like doesn't come
like Mick Jagger's looking over he doesn't
come up for air and he says
if you have even one sip of that water
I'm not getting paid
and he like does a little thing and it's like
buddy he's dead
he did not survive that
he literally says I'm going to be out of a job
I'm like you have chased this man all day and you're just
wondering about a job god
talk about dystopian capitalism
period and then like he
you know Emilio Estevez swims out of the water
and meets Frankie Faison
playing the eagle man
is credited only as eagle man is a
homeless man that a first
offers him a river rat.
He says, don't worry, the river rat's pretty good.
It's just got, it's the only thing you got to do is add some sauce.
It's all about the sauce after you gut him.
It's like...
Specifically, he says one of my favorite lines in the movie, which is Alex is like, how do you
eat river rat?
And the guy is like, oh, you know, you just cut off the head and the tail.
And then the guy says, you don't just plop down warm rodent on a plate and say,
here's your river rat.
which is what he just did to Alex also.
But, like, he, there's a long conversation about the river rat, probably too long.
And then he tells me, like, a story that honest to God, like, the first time I saw this movie, I was crying, laughing.
Because it is, like, this is a story I would make up to, like, get Masha mad.
like of like uh you know like there's an eagle he's like what's even the point of trying to fight any of this
Alex is like I should just fucking kill myself yeah and then the guy's like
masha yeah you tell the story he goes um it's a question also it's a have you ever seen an eagle
flying back to its home with dinner for the misses and all the little eagle babies and then at the
last second he gives up and says like oh what the fuck who cares i'm going to kill myself no he goes
or he's like yeah and then he goes down down down the eagle and then there's a splattering of feathers
and then bam we don't have the national bird of america no more did you ever see that well my like
before he's like and he's right before he's right before his home and then right before he gets to the
nest, two little
exes appear on its eyes.
Like a damn
cartoon.
Yeah.
And he's like, fucking it doesn't even
fucking matter.
I was like, kill myself.
That detail of like the two little
exes appearing.
There's one joke in this movie also
later on that this
this and that later joke
are two jokes that I'm like
this.
It feels like I wrote that.
It feels like the rider
fell asleep.
and his son walked up and was like,
oh, I gotta save my project for dad.
So man, eagle, the eagle falls down
and it's got cartoon eyes.
And then, yeah, Renee,
Renee Russo meets, meets up with him somewhere,
just somehow, they're like, let's,
we just have a mind meld, we're going to meet up.
And they do, and she's like,
I'm going to take you to my friend Morgan.
He's an expert at hiding people.
But first she sees a giant billboard behind Alex that's flashing the word suicide over Manhattan.
Yeah, like flashing it from Manhattan like towards Brooklyn, which is really funny.
It's like suicide assistance.
And the, yeah, like the, I also love when René Brousseau's talking to him, she's like,
Vicendac set you up.
He is the best there is.
and it's like he absolutely sucks at his he hasn't done one smart thing yet in this movie like
yeah he's like this is the this is a 15 million dollar man let me shoot 500 bullets at him that's
yeah and then um they go to house of yes to meet morgan and uh there's a what i wrote down
one second cut to mcjagger looking at a screen that says game over and it says vector
a rush on the screen and he goes, damn.
It's like, okay, wait.
And then it cuts back to the movie
taking place and you're, okay.
And then,
like, Renee Russo's like, you wait here,
like, I'll be right back.
And then right after she leaves,
a woman with a camera comes up to
Emilio Estevez
and is like, hi,
you're on TV and Emilio
Ostevez turns to her. By the way,
there's a, a,
a $10 million
Bounty on his head
at this point.
And he
like turns around, she's like,
hey, do you want me to interview you for my
TikTok channel? And he's like,
I'm a fugitive.
I'm on the run. He's like super fucked up at this point
too, because he made the mistake of drinking future
alcohol, which is like GHB.
Let's just be very, yeah,
it's just GHB.
No, let's be very clear.
It's literally just a,
full glass of Listerine coolment
with a dash of GHB
visually it looks like Listerine
and he just drinks it so easy
and then all of a sudden it's like
yeah he got
he got drugged with GHB at House of Yes
and like then he's like
my favorite things
he looks at the TV and like
he goes like
yo fuck with Shendag dude
that guy fucking sucks
like you
you don't know who that is.
Like,
yeah.
He's like my mortal enemy.
And he has,
he still has no idea what the fuck is going on.
Yes, truly.
Also,
it's 18 years in the future and Renee Russo looks exactly the same.
Exactly.
No,
literally exactly the same.
I was so worried that they were going to like,
make her to like look really old.
She's just too beautiful to mess up.
Yeah, yeah, period.
I and then I love like so they they easily leave like there's no problem at all even though he's on TV
and they're at Morgan's house and he's like this is my I've hidden a lot of people here before but not this
I'm like what the fuck is go like what does that mean like everyone knows what a freejack is but
I think he might literally be the first one I think they might have just been telling people like
there's going to be a new thing called a free jack that we're in that thing.
And, but like, uh,
Renee Russo's like,
hang on, here's what I'm going to do.
I'm going to call my evil boss.
And he's going to know exactly what to do.
Played by Anthony Hopkins.
Played by Sir Anthony Hopkins.
With the name McCandalous.
Doesn't really roll off the,
uh,
yeah,
that's a real Scottish name.
well canonically it's uh this character is uh christopher mcandless from real life and also the movie into the wild
yeah absolutely uh r ap he um he's the original name was timothy treadwell for this character
no mr treadwell
hello
treadwell corp
looks like you treaded poorly
You've treaded your last
poorly step
Yo, that sounded literally
like Shakespeare shock, that was nuts.
Thank you.
Treaded your last poorly step.
Oh, Emilio Estevez, also,
once they get back to the safe house,
has the line, is this what a hangover
feels like in the future?
Which also, I was like,
Hessa wrote that line.
Yeah.
So traveled back in time and wrote that line.
Hey, is this what a hangover
feels like in the future?
I was looking at.
I'm looking at my notes.
I totally forgot to mention
after he leaves Frankie Faison,
there's a second where he's looking on
and then he says,
you ain't beat yet for long.
And it's like, wait, it's, what the fuck?
It's literally like, they're like, oh, also this black man,
the magical black man.
He's like badger vans.
The whole conclusion of their,
the whole conclusion of their interaction
is that this guy is like, you have to remember, like, you're an eagle and you can fly.
Like, you can't stop flying.
And Alex is like, yeah, you're right, I can fly.
No, okay.
I, Masha, there is not in a thousand years that I could have understood that that's the lesson I'm supposed to get from that.
I literally thought the lesson that the Eagleman was teaching is like, you can just choose to die if you just close your eyes.
and yeah
like and like
so in your mind
Emilio Sves was like that's a really bad lesson
actually I'm not going to do that
he's encouraging self-harm
but yeah also Anthony Hopkins
ends the conversation with
Renee Russo by saying
I have to go I'm late for a meeting
with the European president
which is another incredible line
not even the president of Europe
but just the European president.
Like, it could be any country.
Like, um,
and then, uh,
it cuts to Mike from Breaking Bad,
who's interviewing a nun.
And he slaps her in the face.
And then she is like,
the Lord,
the Lord commands to turn the other cheek.
But then she, uh,
kicks him in the balls.
Yeah, and says,
but the good,
the good Lord never had to deal with dickheads.
you, which I think he might beg to differ on that one.
They did a lot more than slap him, sweetheart.
God, if God is real, he must be so annoyed that he has to take care of all the
annoying people on the planet besides everyone else.
Yeah, period.
But, like, they have a confusing thing.
There's a confusing thing that's going to happen where...
Emilio Asvez is going to be fine.
They're taking him to a location where an event is going to occur and he's going to be fine.
And René Rousse is like, I can't go with you.
And then, but the driver, as the driver is walking him there,
boom.
I want to.
So sexy.
I want to pause on that scene real quick where they're in the back of the, it's René Rousseau and Emilio Estevez.
And you find out, like, she's like, I can't go with you.
Like, I have a life here.
And he's like, what do you mean?
Like, I love you.
and she's like, would you have gone with me if I asked you to give up your whole life?
And he's like, yeah, probably not.
And it's like the whole, the whole movie sort of rests on the idea that like these two people are important to each other and that like their love can conquer anything.
But it's like, they have like some chemistry, I guess.
But at the end of the day, they're both just like, I actually like don't give a fuck about you.
Well, no, I mean, but honestly, like think about it because like Renee Russo is like canonically like.
Emilio Estevez is like 19 years old and René Rousseau is like 40.
Yeah.
Like, you know, she's like, listen, uh, at one point he's like, what happened between us?
And she's, it's like, brother, like, it's been 18 years and you have not aged one day.
Like it's, it's insane.
Also, also, by the way, for Al.
for a long. It only feels
like it's been two days.
Or he says it's been only two days
for me. And like
the, also they have a sex
scene earlier where
like as they're having
sex it keeps cutting to the car exploding,
which I think was like
brilliantly stolen in the movie Munich
where it keeps cutting to the
Israeli Olympic team
being massacred as Eric
Bonna fucks the hell out of his
wife. It kind of reminds
me of the sex scene from Peewee's
Big Top Circus, where the
sex scene just stops and it cuts immediately
to a train going
through a tunnel.
The explosion being like
the train in the tunnel. Does that have
Yes, yes, Bewee's
Big Top Circus is a sex scene, and
the train is going
into the like
tunnel. There's like a volcano
going off. There's like a lot of
sexual end-to-window. You can
look it up.
I don't need.
There's like an amazing riff on that in the, sorry, this has, this is really taking us far afield,
but there's kind of an amazing riff on that bit of like the train go, like sex scene cutting
to a train going into a tunnel.
I think it's in like one of the scary movies where it's like these two women start
having sex and then it cuts to like two prop train tunnels like bumping into each other.
Oh, that's really good.
That's really fucking good.
Because I mean the the train tunnel during sex is like a very famous.
like yeah like on it i think the first time that happened in a movie it was like uh sun sunrise the uh
f w merneau movie i believe it is but like the i don't know what i don't know what the also the most
famous one the most famous one probably being north by northwest like yeah yeah where it's like
literally alfred hitchcock like getting around the haze code by like cutting from them making
out to just like a train going into a tunnel and it says the end on the
the screen.
But like, yeah, in this, it's a car exploding.
But like, as they're, as they're walking to this boat that he's going to get on to go to
wherever, it explodes.
And then they're completely under attack.
And this is the funniest, one of the funniest lines of all time is it's him and this and the
like bodyguard slash driver and they're both like crouched behind a box.
He's like, they've got, Emilio Svesz, like, they've got us cornered.
And the bodyguard is like, what do you mean us, white man?
Just kidding.
Keep me covered.
And like, but he says just kidding.
Yeah.
Not even one second later.
It's so funny.
Like how quickly he says.
Well, they're kind of in the middle of a shootout.
Yeah.
But I love being like, what do you mean white man?
Just kidding.
Also, sexiest thing about Boone besides just visually how the way he looks is that he has both a gun and a short cantana.
Cantana.
Can'ta.
Cantana.
It's a really strange mix of weapons because like we said, like there's like normal modern day guns and then there's laser guns that are like very rarely shown.
and then this guy immediately after saying just kidding he immediately gets shot by one of the bonejackers
and then he kills the bonejacker with a sword that he has randomly and then he says for long keep my
grandma smiling I straight up like for a trillion dollars I couldn't tell you what he means by that like
there's no setup for that like there is like kind of a setup or like as they're walking to the boat
Boone is like
You know
There's like 8 million people in this city
And like their hope rests on you
Like I know that my grandma is smiling
Knowing that you're free
And then like right as right before he dies
He turns to him and it's like
Keep my grandma smiling
And then he immediately kills himself
With a future grenade that he also
He has like five weapons on him
Yeah
The also this scene is really
Really like my favorite
My absolute favorite thing about this scene
Is that it's
really the scene where
someone
responsible for this movie was like
in the future helmets will be
invincible
like 20 times in this
movie in this scene
he's like you know
fighting with these guys and their helmets
like he keeps shooting them in the helmet
nothing happens he hits him in the head
with the helmet with a lead pipe like as hard
as he fucking can and the guy
just just does
head doesn't even bounce
really it just kind of like stays
in the same position.
Yeah, and like, Mick Jagger, by the way, is wearing a helmet.
Like, it looks like a child putting on his dad's motorcycle helmet.
Like, every time he puts it on, it's way too big for his tiny little head.
He's got a tiny head in real life.
He is a small man.
I mean, you were just at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Jacques.
Like, you've seen his outfits.
They didn't have a room of where it was just all the naked bodies and heights of every popular musician.
No, but they had, like, all the outfits.
and you see like every, every single one of them is like 5-5.
I guess I was just too busy, like, really deeply staring with the biggest eyes I could
ever have at the Natalie Merchant Ophelia costume exhibit.
But I didn't, if I would have seen something from McJaggers at the Rock and Roll Hall of Museum,
I would have been like, piss off, whatever.
Period.
And then here's, this part really, really confused me.
Like, he has a gun on Mc Jagger, the worst tracker in the world.
Like, he gets the drop on him so easily by just, like, pointing, by literally,
Mc Jagger is slowly walking around with, like, basically with his eyes closed.
And, like, he turns around and, you know, Emilio Estevez has the gun on him.
And then, like, ten people walk in, and they're like, hey, Vigendak, fuck you.
and Emilio Estevez is like
no fuck you got
and then like shoots all of them
and I'm like wait
so they're
they're not on his
those guys that's a different faction
that we haven't met yet
it's just a random group of proles
that Emilio Estevez kills
even though they're trying to save him
from the bad guy
I didn't get that at all
okay
but the Siddak's like
you could have killed me
why not
and like
I honestly
I loved this
I love this aspect of them
like becoming friends because it really truly
is my favorite
my favorite trope like ever
in movies like
when two like
enemies who are sick
have to team up
or they like team up out of respect
at the end to get like someone
worse and
you know that's why for a few dollars
more is my favorite Western
like it happens like it's
such a good trope. And in this one, like, um, this one, it, it, it eventually has such a good payoff at the end,
an ending that I genuinely love, like, but, um, at, at this point, he points the gun back at
McJagger and he's like, tell me the name of the guy. And McChagger's like, it actually turns out
McCandilus, the guy who runs the corporation who brought you here and, uh, the guy who is the guy who
trying to capture you
and destroy your brain
he's actually the bad guy
and it's like who the fuck else
would it be? Yeah and
it's just
poor furlong I mean he's being chased
the entire movie by his Roland
stone and it's not even a rolling stone
it's Hannibal who wants him
yeah literally
he's like the rolling stones
are bringing him to Hannibal Lecter
but like
then they
basically like he
meets with Renee Rousseau, and he's like, oh, Mick Jagger's like, I'll give you a five-minute head start.
And I'm like, truly, no, five-minute. He says five-minute. I promise you.
Yeah, he's like, I'll give you a five-minute head start. And then, which I'm like, okay, like literally the worst, the worst person at his job in the world.
And then Mick Jagger's, yeah, Mick Jagger's, like Israeli tank drives up. His oranges.
Israeli tank drives up.
By the way, all of the tanks and all of the military vehicles on Vesendac's team all look
spray-painted red.
They don't look like at all.
They look like they were done like 10 minutes before the movie.
Pay attention to his paint job, people.
Literally.
And period.
And, you know, Renee Russo's in it and she's like, get in.
I stole this really easily from him when he wasn't even figured.
He's really bad at his job.
he's the best there is.
But, and, like, I keep trying, I keep almost calling him Michael Douglas.
Alex Furlong is, like, your boss is actually evil.
And René Rousse was like, that's fucking bullshit, dude.
Like, he's so good.
Even though his...
He's just a 90-year-old white man.
What could he have done wrong?
And, like, literally Rousseau calls him and is like, hey, are you trying to kill him?
And he's, he's like, yeah, I'm really.
really sorry, you know?
We need him for a client.
There's also a scene earlier where a force ghost Michael Douglas in a hood is like,
I need my body.
And it's never reference again.
But, um,
Anthony Hopkins.
You said Michael Douglas.
Or,
Emilio Estevez is who it is.
But, um,
basically,
like,
they go to the building.
Mike from Breaking Bad is there.
And he delivers a,
another amazing line,
which is,
actually Anthony Hopkins died
three days ago.
His mind is in the spiritual
switchboard, and he needs your body.
The spiritual switchboard.
His only mistake
was asking me to take care of everything.
This man doesn't know that I fucking suck at this.
But he's like, I actually have a plan.
I'm going to be
new boss. I'm going to let him die.
And then he's like,
all right, you guys can leave.
And he would have won right
there. But then he picks up a
walkie-taki and he's like, kill them when they get down there.
Wait, also two seconds
for the after that, he looks
at René Russo's character
and goes, your services
are no longer needed here, miss.
And she walks up
to him and you think she's
about to say something. And that she just
slaps him as hard as he
can on the face. And
the
Mark Michelette
played by Jonathan Banks, the better
call Saul Mike guy, makes
this face kind of like after you
come where you just
you can't maintain any
express. I fucking loved that
scene. He makes his face where his eyes
are wide open, but
like soulless and his mouth is agape.
And he, like,
for whatever reason, she
was not trying to pleasure him
but he she did
It's also like when he got hit
I don't know if I got that from that part
Yeah I don't know I don't know if I agree with that
Throughout the entire movie Mark Michelette is hit
And he doesn't fucking hit them back or anything
He gets he gets kicked in the nuts by the fucking nun
And he just makes this goofy ass like the eyes going inward
Like oh my nuts
And like there's no response
So you would have hit you would have beat the fuck out of that nun is what you're saying
I don't know I don't know what I would have done I'm not a nun I'm not a Mark
Michelette but what I do know what I do know here right now
Well I would never kill Amanda Plummer that's just the thing
I yeah I'm not gonna kill Amanda Plummer but you hit her you'd slap her around a bit
What about for a million dollars? No I wait well I mean I I I just I just think
that there was something about the casting where they were like,
we need to get a guy that can get like take a nice hit in the nuts or a punch in the
stomach and just make a real good face.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean,
and then they basically,
they go to the top of the hotel from New Vegas.
And something I realized,
the top of this building is supposed to look like a jack.
Okay?
And so does the machine,
the free jack machine.
Oh,
it literally,
it literally for,
literally for no.
reason.
Yeah.
It's, I mean, but
there's an amazing
scene where they really go nuts
on the special effects.
I actually really think this scene looks cool.
Oh, it looks beautiful.
And Anthony Hopkins is like,
I'm actually gonna,
he says,
my,
he says,
I sentence myself to death
for trying to end your love.
Because he's like,
I'm in love with Renee Russo.
I tried to steal your body,
full disclosure.
so why don't you
fucking
you know
delete my
why don't you delete my brain
type in my code
and press delete
and he's doing it
and he's like
try it again
it didn't work
try it again
yeah and he keeps doing it
and he's like try it again
it's like
I like literally
he's like
I think he
this guy's fucking with me
and then
Vesendack walks in
and
Anthony Hopper
is like, this guy's, I just prank the fuck out of this guy with that code shit.
And, you know, they do the mind transfer.
He relives his whole life, which is crashing his car and did nothing else.
And then they, the machine explodes when Jonathan Banks comes in and shoots the jack.
And, like, real quick, I do want to say, I don't know why this line fucking got
me, but I think it's because, like, the name
Vesendac sounds like a name
that was written for, like,
they just wanted to hear Anthony Hopkins
say those syllables, because there's this line
where Anthony Hopkins goes, well,
Vicendac, shall we do it? Shall we
make the switch? And it fucking crack
me the fuck up. Also,
I feel like we just really
glanced over a really important detail.
The visuals of the spiritual
switchboard is like...
Are so good. So
mind-blowing amazing. It's kind of
like in Lawson translation when they go to the club where it's all of these wall-to-wall projections
of like nature to the point where the whole room is kind of glowing and it's you just you're
kind of transported and it's the one moment in the movie where you kind of have a little bit of
beauty and just like calm but the only other moment that's like calm and beautiful in the entire
movie is when Alex and Julie are flirting in the very opening scene and they're just being like a sweet
couple. And then we go back and it's obviously like a tense movie moment, thematical moment with like the
screens, but you're almost like just kind of taken away from the plot line and just so invested in
the beauty of the spiritual switchboard. It could be a full second movie just about the spiritual
switchboard. It's kind of like it's kind of like the scene from Spike Kids when the Spike
kids go into Floup's mind palace.
It's like very that.
God.
Yeah, period.
Period.
But basically,
Emilio Estevez is like,
I'm the transfer completed.
I'm now Anthony Hopkins.
And Mick Jagger is like,
oh,
like, what's your code?
This is my favorite fucking part of the movie.
Oh my God, it's so fucking good.
For about like one.
second, I was like, because McJaggers, like, if you're really McHandless, like, give me your
personal ID number.
And then Emilio Esteva, there's like a long pause.
Emilio Estevez says six.
Six.
And Vicendax says, correct.
It's so funny.
Well, you think that it's, the way that it's delivered, you think that the number is just
going to end that six.
Yeah, literally.
No, it's amazing.
It's amazing.
He's guessed the right number.
He's guessed one out of ten numbers and he chose the right one.
And I mean, he, of course, he keeps going.
And Jonathan Banks, they kill him.
And then he's like, bring my car around.
Me and Renee Russo are going to drive to the world.
And then, like, the Sendek meets him on the street.
Because just to clarify, at this point, Furlong is now pretending that the sole transfer has gone through.
Yeah, yeah.
So he can pretend to be McCandless inside of Furlong's body.
so him and Julie can escape without any further pressure.
Yeah, so he can be like literally the dictator of the world, basically, is what he is now.
And like...
Yeah, it's not at all like a pro-lateriate movie.
Yeah, which is weird.
Because Dan fucking Gilroy, like, wrote it.
And he, you know, he's not exactly, like, not exactly a fascist or a capital.
But it reads like a lost Einrand novel.
It's like, what if you just like...
Became the Uber Mench.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like, what it's like so, like, and then like Vesendek pulls him over and delivers, I think,
I think Mick Jagger does right here like the best line delivery of the movie where he's like,
Renee Rousseau's like, oh my God, you're Emilio Estevez.
but how did you know the
how did you know the code
and McJegger's like he didn't
I lied
he wasn't even close
that's a really good impression
of how he says it
yes
and I was like let's
fucking go dude I love
I love that you know
the entire movie he's like just trying to kill him
trying to kill him trying to kill him and finally
you know what he's like honestly this guy's a worthy
foe I'm going to let him live
it's just I honestly also I don't give a fuck
Yeah, I feel like right away he was like, I'm actually, I don't even, I like this guy, he's cute.
I'm not even going to try to kill him at all for the entire movie.
It really explains everything that he does.
But the final line of the movie is amazing.
It's Michael Doug, or I keep calling him fucking, I'm just going to call Michael Douglas.
It doesn't even, Michael Douglas is like sitting in the car, which, again, is a car from like 1921, like a piercing.
arrow or rolls
Royce and he's like let's see what this baby
can do it's like buddy
probably not a lot
you started that you had to start that thing
with a crank at the front of the car
like
it probably cannot
go very fast
I'm sorry to tell you
but yeah that is then
the end of the movie
he's free
he's Jack
he's also like the richest man in the world
yeah he's
it's a similar ending to ready player one honestly
and uh
uh
uh
don't ever don't ever upset me like that again
I thought I had forgotten that piece of shit
fucking god
but what did you guys think of this movie
did you guys like this movie?
I'll let Masha go actually excuse me
I'm so sorry to
no no no Jock you go for it
I just truly actually love this movie
Hessa, I called Hessa in the middle of the night to be like, hey, what movie should I watch tonight, like, right now immediately?
Like, I just, I had already spent an hour in 45 minutes going through every single streaming app, reading list of every movies, clicking trailers, trying to decide what movie.
Finally, Hessa's like, hey, why don't you do the one that you're supposed to do for work that's required of you that you haven't seen that we need to do, you know, immediately anyway?
and I was like, oh my God.
Oh my God, that's perfect.
That's the most basic suggestion.
And I was really honestly, I needed a Nancy Myers, like, The Holiday-esque kind of movie,
something gentle on my broken soul that could lift me up.
But you know what?
It turns out I actually needed a futuristic dystopian action adventure nightmare in order
to really realize the importance of my life and love.
I love this movie
There's a little few details I wanted to end on
I loved that
It's just this is one of those eras of
Science Fiction
Dysopian Future movies
Where I mean
Obviously this movie took a lot of nods from Blade Runner
I feel like
There was a
Not only a lot taken from Blade Runner
I mean you got the villain
Of a movie played by a famous musician
Just like I
Isaac Hayes playing the Duke and Escape from New York.
Yeah.
Escape, Chuck, you brought up Escape from New York when we were texting when you were watching this movie.
And it really is, like, dead on.
Like, that is, like, the big, I feel like that's the big, uh, inspiration behind this.
And like, a lot of these other dystopian type movies.
Um, it, it was just, they're, really honestly, it, 99.9.9% I felt like,
perfect movie. Maybe it was a little tiny bit too long, but the amazing cast, there's not a
fucking dull movie moment. There's not like a single moment of the movie where it stops and
the pace goes down. You're constantly on the run with furlong. You don't know where you stand
emotionally. You don't know who you, who your vote. You don't know what's going on a lot of the time.
You don't know who is shooting at you, who's on what team?
there's randomly a scene where McJagger
crushes a Faberger
crushes a Faberger
and his fist
and then Jonathan Banks is like
get the fuck out of my office
McJagger spends a lot of time
in this movie
just hanging out in like
his man cave
basically doing nothing
but yeah
Masha what did you think of this movie
what was your
I mean
yeah
I thoroughly enjoyed it
It does, in my mind, it doesn't make any fucking sense.
And the pacing is, is absolutely nuts.
But, you know, it had a, it had a stacked cast.
I was like, when I finished it, I was sort of left with the feeling of, like,
if this was, like, an anime, it would have been, like, fucking amazing.
Not that I'm, like, a big consumer of anime, but I kind of feel like it has,
kind of similar to, like, something like Cowboy Bebop, where it's, like,
you're sort of thrown into a world without a lot of explanation.
And I think it's something like Cowboy Bebop that really works or like, or even like a Tarantino, like Pulp Fiction, you're kind of, I guess you get a fair amount of backstory.
But it's also like, you know, sci-fi film Pulp Fiction.
No, no, no, no, but I just know.
No, I know, I'm kidding.
You know, stylistically, it's like you're, you're thrown into this very specific, heavily stylized world.
And people come on and you're just like, oh, like, it's this guy.
And it's like using their first and last name.
And this had that too where it was like, yeah, it's a sense.
Dac. The Sendax, the guy now who's here.
Bone jackers. You're supposed to care about.
Yeah, he's a bone jacker. The spiritual switchboard.
Yeah, but it was like, it was missing, I think some kind of like through line or like,
I don't know, but I did enjoy it a lot.
The, um, Anthony Hopkins, uh, famously later said that this is quote, a very, very bad
movie, uh, which, fuck him.
Yeah.
Fuck you, Anthony. He's such a fuck.
Sir Anthony Hopkins
Why, you're such a little
Sir Anthony Hopkins little bitch
You can't even fucking respect a movie
You got his ass
He's like he's the funniest casting in this movie to me
In my mind because it's like
Yeah we have this character
You have to defend the movie
You can't just go and star in a movie
And then publicly disparage it
It is absolutely unpolite
And not acceptable behavior
In modern society
I agree Jacques
I also just think like
his casting is really funny to me because it's like, yeah, we have like this character
who we need, like, the audience needs to think that he's like a good guy for the first,
like, three quarters of the movie.
And then, like, at the very end, you find out that he's actually evil.
Who do we get to play that?
Anthony Hopkins in 1991.
Yeah.
The, I mean, like, also the, the, maybe the funniest thing about Anthony Hopkins's,
uh, role is that very, very, very.
clearly he was on this set for one maybe two days like yeah all of his scenes take place
separate from everyone else except for the very end like yeah literally like it's it's so
funny um but yeah i i also really love this movie obviously uh or else i wouldn't have
suggested it i this is uh one of my favorite genres of movie is these like way way way too overambit
kind of like action
sci-fi movies.
Would you consider this a neo-noir?
I, it's almost, it's,
I don't know if I would.
But there's, is this kind of mystery element
of like, because the plotline is so confusing,
you don't know what's going on.
I wouldn't consider it a neo-noir
just because, I mean, that is such like
a difficult to, like, define term.
I once made a chart about what makes a neo-noir and I can send it to both of you.
But the, that's how much I fucking, that's how gay I am.
That's how much of the dirt I am.
I'm like, actually, I once made a chart.
But, yeah, there's, I do think that this does not fall into the kind of, you know,
a very amorphous space
of a neo-noir
just because it's much more of an action movie
I would say
in the same way of like
like the thing about Blade Runner
that really like people don't get
that the thing that's good about Blade Runner is
Is that Decker it's a replicant?
No, it's two things.
It's one that
it's not like
the new Blade Runner movie
the 2049 or whatever
that one's like
oh we have to
try and be really deep and predict the future.
And the first Blade Runner movie was like, what if a rapist was a cop in a future world?
And like that's all it.
It was just like a good story told in a like a cool world.
I recommend the director's cut if you have not seen.
Yeah, he doesn't say the hard RN word in the director's cut.
Like he does in the theatrical version.
Wait, what?
Yeah, he says the hard R. N word in the theatrical version, Jock.
Did you not know that?
That's such a weird, like, I mean, I guess the director just knew that he wouldn't want that to be part of it.
It's just a weird thing that, like, the theatrical version would feature.
Like, they were like, we should make this for every audience, and then this one for the small people that we'll see this movie.
But, yeah, the best thing about, like, my favorite thing about Blade Runner is that Decker,
is evil and bad at his job.
Like he's an evil, evil guy.
He's his sexual violence as a weapon.
He is like basically, he cannot catch anyone.
He shoots a woman in the back when she's running from him
who is literally just no threat to anyone at all.
It's just like, you know, he gets his ass handed to him
by every single other replicant that he hates.
I got so excited that I
that I had missed a scene where he got his ass
eaten. Oh my God, no.
That's in the theatrical cut also.
They cut that part out.
That's where he says the hard R.N word.
That's the scene where he sees the unicorn
and he gets butt-fucked by the horn, right?
Yeah, literally. Period.
But yeah, the,
yeah, this, everyone should watch Freejack.
It's a good movie.
Masha, thank you so much for coming.
on.
Thank you for up and me.
Yes.
Well, yes.
Masha, I have a special
set off for you.
I have prepared a single
a three second song
that I wrote last night for you.
It's instrumental,
but it's about how I feel about you.
So let me just perform this
before we go.
Oh my God.
Wow.
Wow.
That was very difficult.
That's going to be a nightmare in the edit.
Don't get it.
Don't give me a whistle.
Don't give me a whistle.
No one should...
I did it.
No one, none of us gave you a whistle.
Neither of us did.
No, can I tell you where I got this whistle from?
I don't think of you...
I really have to pee, but you...
Well, maybe I shouldn't say it, actually.
Okay, okay.
All right.
Thank you, everyone.
Thank you for listening.
We'll see you next time.
Bye.
Bye.
