Seeking Derangements - SD 470: MJS–Freejack (feat. Masha Breeze)

Episode Date: January 28, 2026

Today on Movie Jacqueset, Hesse, Jacques and Masha discuss the classic film Freejack, one of the thousand low-budget sci-fi action movies from the early 90’s that’s amazing and very bad. They disc...uss Mick Jagger’s incredible accent work, the philosophical implications of The Eagle Speech, and the beautiful Jack-centric climax!

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Starting point is 00:00:27 Jacques, do you want to do an intro? Sure. Okay. A dystopian future where richest billionaires come from the past and kidnap you to use your body to destroy your pain through lobotomies and then continue on as if nothing had happened. This is the story of one freejack. A book movie based production based on the science fiction book, Immortality. It is a story of sci-fi Odyssey. starring Mick Jagger as the villain.
Starting point is 00:01:03 We've got a lot of incredible acting cameos and his science fiction Odyssey forgotten by time and space with an original budget of only $30 million producing one of the most glorious movies to taste your savory lips. That is kind of a crazy budget for this movie. It's insane. It does like, hello everyone.
Starting point is 00:01:27 It, Masha is here also. By the way, thank you so much for coming on today. Masha is a really famous writer, taste maker, model, actress. Did you say sheik? Continue. No, thank you, Jack. First of all, I don't know how accurate your description of the movie was, but, I mean, that's fine. But, like, the first thing I'll say is that bad movies used to be so fucking good.
Starting point is 00:01:58 back in the day. They used to have soul. They used to have chutzpah. You know what I mean? They used to be like, we're going to make a bad movie. What the hell is that? It's going to be, it's what this movie has. I mean, it's free jack.
Starting point is 00:02:14 It's free jack down to the bone, baby. It's like a type of stew. It's a Hungarian stew. Hungarian stew, yes. And Hungarian stew actually was the stunt coordinator on the movie. Yeah, and he does an amazing job. Yeah, executed for war crimes. They did a really crazy thing after they executed him. They cut him in half down the middle and they put one half of him on one side of the road, buried him, and then they buried the other half on the other side of the road.
Starting point is 00:02:45 I literally hate when that happens. That's like literally my least favorite thing. I wake up and I'm like, oh no, the man's been split in half. Again, in the side of the roads. A period. But, yeah, Before we get sidetracked, it's too late. But Freejack is, it's a science fiction movie from 1992. And the thing about Free Jack is that it's amazing. It's so good. It's incredible. It's about a little, a young boy named, uh, well,
Starting point is 00:03:19 can I give my, my pitch for it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, imagine a future where everyone is kind of gay and has Mark Hamill face. Yeah, yeah. Like they all have, they all... No, but they all have the same kind of like pitted sort of scary skin that Mark Hamill had after the car accident. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:42 Well, I think his skin really started looking like that when he became just old and not like, you know. No, no, no, but there's like the, whatever it is, the third or fourth Star Wars, or no, the third one where like he comes on and his face is just different and they try to play it off as the like attack by the Arctic monster thing. Yeah, yeah. And his skin just looks fucked. Yeah, because I feel like his skin and the fugitive looks bad too. That's Mark.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I don't think, I do not think Mark Hamill. I think you're thinking of Harrison Ford. Oh, yeah. They just both kind of like men. They both kind of like men. And that is so true. Speaking of Harrison Ford's character in the conversation is gay. no no wait hold on pause really quickly the fugitive is harrison ford i had to google it it's tommy
Starting point is 00:04:35 i just said that yeah oh i thought you said it wasn't and i was like no i'm not wrong no mama okay okay but basically free jack is here's what happens in free jack okay it we open up first well in there was an amazing period between like 1984 and 1994 where they would just make fucking anything they would give give you like 45 million dollars like to make the a movie called like a wedlock or something about like a future where uh you and a woman a man and a woman have exploding bomb collars on and they have to stay within 20 feet of each other. And they have to solve them. That's a real movie, by the way.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And it's another one that we're going to do eventually. Are you serious? Yeah, starring Rudger Howard. I was just like making that up on the top. And I was like, wow, she really is a screenwriter. It's starring Rudger Hauer and Joan Packard from Twin Peaks. Who is Joan Packard and Twin Peaks if you, I don't know? It's the one Chinese character.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Oh, yeah. But basically, this movie, the thing I love about this movie is that it starts off and it's like a real cute, like honestly, maybe kind of problematic size and age gap relationship between René Russo, who is six foot six and Emilio Estevez, who is five foot one. and they are in love. I do like, they do have good chemistry in this movie, I feel. Like,
Starting point is 00:06:24 even though the lines that they're given to deliver are, there are some lines that I'm like, uh, you, Renee Russo in the first scene, it says,
Starting point is 00:06:36 well, that, the lines of this movie are like non-stop bangers. They're in, 24 seconds. Like every, he, uh,
Starting point is 00:06:46 Emilio Estevez is a, a race car driver named Alex Furlong Alex Furlong yes and he is dating Renee Rousseau who will be referred to as René Rousseau exclusively Well her real character's name is
Starting point is 00:07:01 Julie Redlin and also Hess is completely right it's like not even just an inappropriate age gap hypothetically but the height that Renee Rousseau has over Emilio Estevez is like a power dynamic that cannot be solved through therapy.
Starting point is 00:07:20 She towers over him. There's like there's a line early on where so he's a race car driver and they're like, they're getting him ready for the big race day. And Renee Rousseau is like, what do you think the other driver's wives will be wearing? And he goes, wives. And she goes, it was a slip of the tongue, Alex. And then he goes, I like that slip. I like that tongue too.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Period. It feels like a kid who's been groomed. into like, like, trying to flirt with adults. Yeah, it's like a teacher who, uh, it's like a kid whose teacher is grooming him, like a teacher and he's trying to like flirt with her. But like, Hessa, you told me you wouldn't talk about my third grade experience on the podcast again. I mean, the thing I really love about this movie is that, I mean, the opening shot is a bit of a tea. it's a bit
Starting point is 00:08:16 you know because the beginning for a little bit it looks like you know just a normal race car movie a normal race car
Starting point is 00:08:25 style movie and but the opening shot is a building being driven what looks like a building
Starting point is 00:08:32 being driven down the street and you're like okay what was that about and in the midst of this normal race car movie it's very flirty
Starting point is 00:08:41 to the couple or they just like look like the happiest most like normal couple, they couldn't have a problem in the world, just do the race car drive, honey,
Starting point is 00:08:49 and then we can fuck after. Yeah, exactly. And, like, in the midst of this normal style movie, it suddenly cuts to Mick Jagger, who is dressed like
Starting point is 00:09:01 a moron. And he says something, like, turn the laser to one trillion. And then, like, that is when you know that this movie is about to cook. Like, this movie is about to go crazy. and like the
Starting point is 00:09:17 like then it cuts back to them at the race um Renee Russo says one of the most like uh you know a Dutch person writing an American woman lines I've ever heard
Starting point is 00:09:32 you're hot rock and roll driving it's like it's not like for what they got John Claude Van Dam to do a punch up on this yeah it's like they just used the translation from Japanese to... Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:49 And then he replies, hey, you drive your typewriter. I'll drive my race car. And she says, it's a computer. And, you know, it's like he doesn't know about technology. And she gets deadly serious and nibbles
Starting point is 00:10:05 his ear in public. Oh, yeah, he's like, nibble my ear for good luck, so I win the race. Yeah. And then it cuts to his like manager who is played by the lead singer of the New York dolls. Yeah, David Johansson, I had to, I was like, I know who this guy is. Hessa, I got to look it up. I was shocked to find this out.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Yeah, Jacques, like, was so shocked that he called me when he, like, called me on the phone when he found this out. Well, there was so excited to tell me. There was just so many fucking characters from, or really good actors and actress from other movies, Amanda Plummer from Pulp Fiction and also from, I mean, just every good move freeway, Jonathan Banks from Better Call Saul, Frankie Frazon from The Wire. I mean, you just could not ask for Andy Hopkins. I mean, come on. The cast is a crazy stacked cast, yeah. Yeah, but anyways, you know, there's, you know, we got to speed it up a little bit because we're
Starting point is 00:11:04 not even at the, we're really not even at the dense part. Yeah. But there is one more thing I want to mention the his manager the the lead singer of the new york dolls is like hey look um let's go into this tent and i'll introduce you to uh the sponsors and he brings him into like tent and this like this guy is like hi i have a like a company that uh like i'll give you like 20 million dollars or whatever to you know race around the track and he's like why don't you go fucking kill yourself you fucking fagget or he's like and it's like okay this is this is like okay this is is literally like a child that is doing this. And then, like, lap one of this race, he launches his, somehow launches his car 100 feet in the air and hits a bridge that is very,
Starting point is 00:11:54 like, you know, like, there's a crazy crash. The crash doesn't really make sense because they're just driving down the fucking racetrack as fast as they can. All of a sudden, his car is like launched into the fucking air. His girlfriend's like, like, next! It looks incredible, though. Like, it's a really cool effect. And, honey, they will be replaying that crap. If you miss it, do not worry.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Because they get their money's worth. They absolutely do. They play it every second that they can. Yeah. And, you know, like, suddenly, I keep wanting to call it Michael Douglas. But Emilio Estevez is in, the future, okay?
Starting point is 00:12:43 And this is a one of, this movie does one of my favorite movie that takes place in the future things where it posits that in the future, it will be nighttime. A prediction that you just cannot fuck up. Like, it's true. It will be nighttime in the future.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And, you know, Mick Jagger, they're like trying to resurrect him. And then right after they resurrect him, they're like, okay, we got to, like, shut off his brain. and then, you know, will, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:15 take him, like they're in the future. It's one of those futures where, like, they're burning trash cans everywhere and there's, like, metal door, metal, like,
Starting point is 00:13:25 doors on every single door. And, also, all the cars in the future in this movie look like if Tesla had been just, like, a little bit gayer and a lot rounder.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Yeah, yeah. But there is also, like, kind of a surprising variety. Like, there are some cars. that basically look like just cars from the 90s with like shit put on them. And then there are other ones that are from like like 2,200 that are just like sort of orbs moving around.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah. Like my favorite example of this is the car at the end where it's like bring bring around my car from my roll, my pierce arrow from like from 1912. So I can take it for a spin. There's also like as the doctor. are reviving him that I just wrote down like one of my favorite lines from the movie thus far, which is they're like trying to restart his heart. And then they finally do.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And one of the doctors goes, well, I wouldn't want to dance to it, but that's a pulse. Yeah, this, okay, we should talk about who wrote this movie because do you, are either of you aware of who wrote this movie? No. This movie is written by Dan Gilroy, who you may know as the brother of Tony Gilroy and one of the lead staff writers on Andor um writer of literally like a
Starting point is 00:14:43 fantastic writer like but this very clearly was like he uh was I don't know what was going he was like all right I'll just I'll write something in 25 minutes on the back of the napkin and then this will be the movie so every once in a while there are like amazing moments in it and you know like I also like the thing about these kinds of like bad sci-fi movies from the 90s is like the
Starting point is 00:15:16 they do this thing where the like no matter how bad they are almost universally the production design the costumes like all like all this shit the prop design it all like goes so hard and like 80% of the time it goes hard and then like every once in a while it'll be like okay now like you know here's a normal gun half of the people use normal guns in this movie half of the people use laser guns lasers yeah um you know there's a lot of like shit like that but like uh and like this movie really does look like kind like it kind of looks fantastic and like especially for what it is um you know there are cool shots and stuff but he's he's he's in the the future now. He breaks free because
Starting point is 00:16:07 a faction attacks the the big the building that he's driving that has Emilio Estevez in it. There are maybe like six factions in this movie. It's unclear at any point which one who is who?
Starting point is 00:16:27 There's just scenes where everyone is walking in like a busy kind of crowded dystopian future New York Street. and like six or seven people just start shooting at each other and people are kind of just standing around at first. Yeah, like another thing that I just noticed that's like kind of different in this movie about than like other of,
Starting point is 00:16:51 because I've seen a ton of movies like this, like Fortress or like, you know, there's like Christopher Lambert is in like 90 of these movies. Like they're usually in these movies there's like an underground resistance faction. And in this one there's not. Like there just isn't. Yeah, yeah. And it's just like but But in spite of that like everywhere they go is also a
Starting point is 00:17:17 war zone. Like everywhere in the future of like it's like they're in Manhattan. It's future Manhattan. The year is like I think it's 2009 because it's supposed to be 18 years after 1991. Yeah. And so he like wakes up in the
Starting point is 00:17:33 future escapes from this like the fucking building full of peacekeepers or like stormtroopers that Mc Jagger is driving. And then immediately he's like thrown out into this war zone and he hails a taxi cab. Yeah. And the taxi driver turns around and goes, this neighborhood is not good. I love what my favorite thing. And then the taxi cab driver immediately pulls a gun on it. Yeah, when he pulls like the, one of my favorite moments is the cab driver's like,
Starting point is 00:18:04 fucking gets out of the car and Emilio Estavis runs and the cab driver just starts also shooting at him. It's like, but he agroed everyone in GTA. He's running. He's like four stars. This guy can't get a break. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:20 The, um, oh my God, the amount of times it says in my notes, quote, Mick Jagger being like, I got to put on my helmet for this. Yeah. Also, a line that happened like two seconds, before the caravan gets attacked
Starting point is 00:18:36 and Furlong makes his escape from the doctors and from the whole caravan. Mick Jagger goes, we've got to get going until we get to the security zone. Every line he delivers in this movie, he's like obviously just fell off the coconut tree. Yeah, there's, it's not clear until maybe like 45 to 50 minutes.
Starting point is 00:19:00 It's a really long movie too, by the way. It's like, it's not, it's not even, two hours long, but it does feel a little lengthy because just so much happens in it. But Mick Jagger, it's not clear until 50 minutes in, but he is trying to do an accent. I think it ends up coming
Starting point is 00:19:20 out South African, kind of. It's almost a flawless South African accent. Is that not what he sounds like normally? We should also mention Mick Jagger is the villain in this movie. It's But one of many. Also, his character's name is so insane.
Starting point is 00:19:39 It's Vincent Vakna. Vondadoc. Vondadok? How do you say? I know you have it written down and you're trying to, and you genuinely cannot read it. No, I'm looking at the, I'm reading it from the internet. I know, I know. So I just can't read.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Vicendac. Lucindac. Vesendac. But basically, you got a Lucindic, buddy. You know, Emilio Ves escapes. He then encounters a nun. Played by Amanda Plummer, by the way. Played by Honeybun from...
Starting point is 00:20:12 Who immediately pulls the shotgun on, out on him. So he's broken into a church. He's managed to sleep through the night. The sister is walking towards him, and he slowly wakes up, and she's like, sorry, son, you can't sleep here. And then she pulls out a double-barrel shotgun in his face. Mm-hmm. And then she goes,
Starting point is 00:20:34 Holy shit. And, like, she is a really cool character. Yeah. That in this scene says one of my... She explains the plot of this movie. Basically, in the past, if someone dies, they, like, teleport. They can teleport them into the future. And, like, right at the moment right before they're about to die.
Starting point is 00:21:01 so that a billionaire can like transplant their mind into their body. Their soul into their body. Well, he says he, this is one of my favorite lines of the movie where he asks, you mean like a brain transplant? And she says, no, a mind transplant. Which is incredible. Also, those people who were, like the bodies from the past are called freejacks and the people who are trying to get them meeting like Mick Jagger
Starting point is 00:21:32 are called Bone Jackers. Okay, I, okay, so I'm unclear on who Bonejackers are. Like, because I, I could swear to God, Mick Jagger at the beginning says like, bonejackers, attack them. Like, and I'm like, I think like, I truly, like, it's useless to try and figure out who the bonejackers are. It's best not to try to make this movie
Starting point is 00:21:55 into something that you can really understand clearly because you won't be. able to. It's a lot more easy to understand than a Christmas karate miracle. I'll say that much. I took about three hours of extra rewatching to understand what the fuck had happened. Yeah, that's a movie that
Starting point is 00:22:11 we watched Masha, me, and Jock. But basically, the nun gives him a normal gun and new clothes and sends him to Sector 7, aka Park Slope. That's what we should start calling Park Slope will make me to New York.
Starting point is 00:22:31 I know. Like the idea of like it over the course of 18 years at some point during that, they're like, okay, Park Slope, it's, it's, Park Slope is now sector seven. Like, the, um,
Starting point is 00:22:44 the idea of that happening is really good for. I go to that neighborhood. I know, period. Um, oh, also at some point before this, there's a, there's a brief scene where Alex tries to get back to his like old apartment and, uh,
Starting point is 00:22:58 finds out that a, black family is living there now and tries to like kick them out of their home. Yeah, it's the, there's a lot, there's one part with a black guy in this movie later that we'll get to. Well, there's, let me just really quickly confirm. There's several parts with several black people. Grand Al Bush playing Boone, playing Julie Redland's Batty Guard. Okay, wait, we'll get to it.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Okay, but like, uh, yeah, jog, joc, joc, we'll get to all that. want to like get two two sidetracked right up the bat but like also there's there's a lot of brief scenes in this movie like there are scenes that last maybe seven seconds long um and uh one of them were introduced to uh mike from breaking bad who's like a corporate exec. Jonathan Banks and he's playing a character named Mark Michelette. Yes um and like the like this so um And he's trying to get, he's trying to get Emilio Estevez. And Mick Jagger's hired by him, basically.
Starting point is 00:24:08 And so Mick Jagger, or not Mick Jagger, Emilio Estavis goes to Park Slope, Sector 7, looking for his girlfriend, or looking for his old manager. And it's this part, it's almost like a joke about this movie because he gets there. and he's like, asks a guy like, excuse me, do you know where this address is? And the guy pulls a gun. Like, a huge fire fight starts in the street
Starting point is 00:24:38 that, like, is not relevant at all to the, and he just skips it. He just walks into a building, and it's still going on outside. And, like, yeah, it's literally, like, one of those, like, moments in GTA5 were, or, like, 50 people in the lobby are just all shooting each other
Starting point is 00:24:58 of all at once and all you feel is the vibration of your controller next to you for about 20, 30 minutes. It's like in doom when you can get monsters to fight each other for a little bit. But he meets his old manager. The old manager is like, hey, good to see you. Like, let's go fucking, let's go to this restaurant. In the midst of this part, Mick Jagger's talking to is hot as fuck, a confidant named Ripper. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:31 And he... Played by a Sally Moraz. This, with a gun to my head, I could not tell you a single... I could not explain a single thing that happens. Like, he's like, go ahead. Try your luck.
Starting point is 00:25:49 And then the guy, like, puts his hand on a table and says a sequence of numbers. And a TV screen says clear. And Mick Jagger goes, I wasn't testing. you. I was testing the machine. And I don't know if you guys noticed this. I think I only noticed this because I've seen this movie a bunch of times. And like this, on this watch, this was my first time noticing this.
Starting point is 00:26:13 But Mick Jagger has this metal container filled with six or seven different types of, like, different colored dust. And he's pinching it and putting it into like a burlap sock, with a beak on it. And it's like, what the, I, like, that was like, what the fuck is going?
Starting point is 00:26:35 Because you know, like some prop designer was like, I had this, some coaked up prop designer being like, I had a great idea. This is, this is how they do drugs
Starting point is 00:26:45 in the future. By the way, with a $30 million dollar budget for 1992, and it's still the props and everything looks so incredible, I think the only thing they cheaped up on was special effects, but I guess that they weren't really that available at the time.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Mm-hmm. I mean, like, the, basically his manager betrays him and, you know, Brad, played by David Johansson, the New York Dolls guy. Yeah. Who also has one of the most fucked up Mark Hamill faces on, like, I don't want to harp on it too much, but I swear to God, like, the casting people for this movie were like, how many, like, fucking Jonathan. and Banks, Mick Jagger, they were like, how many men with skin that looks like feta cheese can we get in one movie?
Starting point is 00:27:36 Anthony Hopkins. Okay, but also, like, Masha, it's literally a plot point in the movie because, like, he tells him at what he tells him at one point, like, uh, like, David Johansson tells Alex for a long, like, you look too healthy. You got to look like shit like me and everyone else. because it's apparently like he's like there's no ozone layer so there's like bromide and uranium in the air and also there are like stronger like future drugs now yeah like all of the drugs are different and stronger there's well there's some drink that he that uh Alex Furlong gets served later on in the ball yeah we'll get in the house of yes and yeah oh oh wait that's the house of yes no I was like that's crazy that was that old
Starting point is 00:28:31 I really believe that for a second he's looking for his girlfriend turns out she's still alive she lives in Manhattan in Battery Park they're in Brooklyn this whole time Manhattan is like very nice it looks like demolition man and she's negotiating a business deal in front of the wall of flesh from Videodrome and like
Starting point is 00:28:51 the business deal is like a group of Japanese businessmen. Yeah, she tells the Japanese businessmen, like, we want the mineral rights. And they're like, okay. And everyone's like, you're the best fucking negotiator I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, there's virtually no negotiation.
Starting point is 00:29:14 She's like, just goes, we must have it. And then he literally just, Emilio Estevez just walks into her office in this like in like the corporate headquarters. He's like, I'm your boyfriend. I can prove it. Here. Here's the proof. You gave me this before my final race.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Wait, well, first of all, he breaks into her home, I thought. No, it's her office. And like, which is even crazier. And then he starts driving around a boat filled with champagne because she triggers the alarm. She doesn't believe him. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. You're, this is, it's getting, it's not a boat filled with champagne. It is a car with a boat on top of it that is the both of the sides open up like as if,
Starting point is 00:30:05 like a traditional old style wine rack or champagne rack. I think, oh no, I'm just realizing, Chuck. I think it's supposed to be like a ship of the line. Like, those are like the cannons in this, uh, ship, if you will, the, the champagne. you know what I mean, which, by the way, they don't take advantage of that. Like, they should have, like, the corks should have, like, a cork should have flown out into some guy's eye. But it's, this is, this chase scene, like, clearly they spent so much money on this chase
Starting point is 00:30:39 scene, and it looks really good. But the, like, what's going on in this chase scene is basically like, uh, they have to capture his body without damaging him, but they, he's also murking every single other. Well, I don't even know if he's driving and people are just killing themselves all around him. Like, um, well, the whole thing is he's a race car driver. He could lead anyone to his death except himself. Yeah. Yeah. Well, then Mick Jagger facetimes him like from his car and his like, hey, Furlong, it's Vesndac. As though he, like, as though Emilio Estabas would know who the fuck that is. They've never met before. They're like having a conversation as they're like, having a conversation as
Starting point is 00:31:22 though they're like mortal enemies. And Alex, aka Emilio Estabez, has a bunch of lines where he's like, come on, Vicendac, you couldn't, you can't catch me. You couldn't catch the clap
Starting point is 00:31:33 if you were in a whorehouse. And they're just like taunting each other over FaceTime. And Mick Jagger, just a fun note about this movie. There's an interview with Mick Jagger where he's like, they asked him about this movie and he's like, yeah, I, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:48 they asked me to be in this movie and I said, I said, go ahead, send me the script. And they said, well, you know, we got to start shooting. We have to start shooting in two weeks. And I just said, you know, I'll, yes, I'll be in it. And, you know, if they had sent me the script, I probably wouldn't have said yes, you know. But he's like, but we had some grand fun when shooting it.
Starting point is 00:32:14 We were in Atlanta. And me and Emilio Osteves, we went to these Atlanta strip clubs, you know. down in Atlanta, they do that instead of going to the bar or a restaurant, they go to strip clubs, you know, for fun. It's just, you know, popping out to go to the strip club. Like, it's an incredible interview. And by the way, this movie was exclusively filmed in New York and Atlanta. Yeah, the, um, basically, after the chase, Vesendac is like, is like, damn, this guy is really good. Can I say one really quick thing?
Starting point is 00:32:52 The climax of the chase is that they're going down a bridge where there are two trucks blocking the exit. And the only other option that Furlong has is to jump off of the side of the bridge into the water. And the special effects at this exact moment are the only thing that took me out of the entire movie. It was a 99.9.9% perfect movie. This is the only scene. It's just like his outline is like very two like, it's very like Olivia Soprano. Yeah, like photoshopped. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:33 But the, yeah, he basically he kills himself. He jumps off this bridge into the water. And this is, this is, I believe it was the George Washington Bridge that he's going. No, it's not the George. It's, um. I think it's the Williamsburg Bridge. yes it's the Williamsburg bridge that he is going across
Starting point is 00:33:51 which it like is not the tallest bridge but you like you could you would die like he jumps off and he is like literally it's so funny like he jumps off of the bridge and like doesn't come
Starting point is 00:34:06 like Mick Jagger's looking over he doesn't come up for air and he says if you have even one sip of that water I'm not getting paid and he like does a little thing and it's like buddy he's dead he did not survive that he literally says I'm going to be out of a job
Starting point is 00:34:23 I'm like you have chased this man all day and you're just wondering about a job god talk about dystopian capitalism period and then like he you know Emilio Estevez swims out of the water and meets Frankie Faison playing the eagle man is credited only as eagle man is a
Starting point is 00:34:44 homeless man that a first offers him a river rat. He says, don't worry, the river rat's pretty good. It's just got, it's the only thing you got to do is add some sauce. It's all about the sauce after you gut him. It's like... Specifically, he says one of my favorite lines in the movie, which is Alex is like, how do you eat river rat?
Starting point is 00:35:05 And the guy is like, oh, you know, you just cut off the head and the tail. And then the guy says, you don't just plop down warm rodent on a plate and say, here's your river rat. which is what he just did to Alex also. But, like, he, there's a long conversation about the river rat, probably too long. And then he tells me, like, a story that honest to God, like, the first time I saw this movie, I was crying, laughing. Because it is, like, this is a story I would make up to, like, get Masha mad. like of like uh you know like there's an eagle he's like what's even the point of trying to fight any of this
Starting point is 00:35:52 Alex is like I should just fucking kill myself yeah and then the guy's like masha yeah you tell the story he goes um it's a question also it's a have you ever seen an eagle flying back to its home with dinner for the misses and all the little eagle babies and then at the last second he gives up and says like oh what the fuck who cares i'm going to kill myself no he goes or he's like yeah and then he goes down down down the eagle and then there's a splattering of feathers and then bam we don't have the national bird of america no more did you ever see that well my like before he's like and he's right before he's right before his home and then right before he gets to the nest, two little
Starting point is 00:36:37 exes appear on its eyes. Like a damn cartoon. Yeah. And he's like, fucking it doesn't even fucking matter. I was like, kill myself. That detail of like the two little
Starting point is 00:36:49 exes appearing. There's one joke in this movie also later on that this this and that later joke are two jokes that I'm like this. It feels like I wrote that. It feels like the rider
Starting point is 00:37:04 fell asleep. and his son walked up and was like, oh, I gotta save my project for dad. So man, eagle, the eagle falls down and it's got cartoon eyes. And then, yeah, Renee, Renee Russo meets, meets up with him somewhere, just somehow, they're like, let's,
Starting point is 00:37:26 we just have a mind meld, we're going to meet up. And they do, and she's like, I'm going to take you to my friend Morgan. He's an expert at hiding people. But first she sees a giant billboard behind Alex that's flashing the word suicide over Manhattan. Yeah, like flashing it from Manhattan like towards Brooklyn, which is really funny. It's like suicide assistance. And the, yeah, like the, I also love when René Brousseau's talking to him, she's like,
Starting point is 00:38:01 Vicendac set you up. He is the best there is. and it's like he absolutely sucks at his he hasn't done one smart thing yet in this movie like yeah he's like this is the this is a 15 million dollar man let me shoot 500 bullets at him that's yeah and then um they go to house of yes to meet morgan and uh there's a what i wrote down one second cut to mcjagger looking at a screen that says game over and it says vector a rush on the screen and he goes, damn. It's like, okay, wait.
Starting point is 00:38:39 And then it cuts back to the movie taking place and you're, okay. And then, like, Renee Russo's like, you wait here, like, I'll be right back. And then right after she leaves, a woman with a camera comes up to Emilio Estevez
Starting point is 00:38:57 and is like, hi, you're on TV and Emilio Ostevez turns to her. By the way, there's a, a, a $10 million Bounty on his head at this point. And he
Starting point is 00:39:12 like turns around, she's like, hey, do you want me to interview you for my TikTok channel? And he's like, I'm a fugitive. I'm on the run. He's like super fucked up at this point too, because he made the mistake of drinking future alcohol, which is like GHB. Let's just be very, yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:28 it's just GHB. No, let's be very clear. It's literally just a, full glass of Listerine coolment with a dash of GHB visually it looks like Listerine and he just drinks it so easy and then all of a sudden it's like
Starting point is 00:39:45 yeah he got he got drugged with GHB at House of Yes and like then he's like my favorite things he looks at the TV and like he goes like yo fuck with Shendag dude that guy fucking sucks
Starting point is 00:40:01 like you you don't know who that is. Like, yeah. He's like my mortal enemy. And he has, he still has no idea what the fuck is going on. Yes, truly.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Also, it's 18 years in the future and Renee Russo looks exactly the same. Exactly. No, literally exactly the same. I was so worried that they were going to like, make her to like look really old. She's just too beautiful to mess up.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah, yeah, period. I and then I love like so they they easily leave like there's no problem at all even though he's on TV and they're at Morgan's house and he's like this is my I've hidden a lot of people here before but not this I'm like what the fuck is go like what does that mean like everyone knows what a freejack is but I think he might literally be the first one I think they might have just been telling people like there's going to be a new thing called a free jack that we're in that thing. And, but like, uh, Renee Russo's like,
Starting point is 00:41:07 hang on, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to call my evil boss. And he's going to know exactly what to do. Played by Anthony Hopkins. Played by Sir Anthony Hopkins. With the name McCandalous. Doesn't really roll off the, uh,
Starting point is 00:41:26 yeah, that's a real Scottish name. well canonically it's uh this character is uh christopher mcandless from real life and also the movie into the wild yeah absolutely uh r ap he um he's the original name was timothy treadwell for this character no mr treadwell hello treadwell corp looks like you treaded poorly
Starting point is 00:41:57 You've treaded your last poorly step Yo, that sounded literally like Shakespeare shock, that was nuts. Thank you. Treaded your last poorly step. Oh, Emilio Estevez, also, once they get back to the safe house,
Starting point is 00:42:12 has the line, is this what a hangover feels like in the future? Which also, I was like, Hessa wrote that line. Yeah. So traveled back in time and wrote that line. Hey, is this what a hangover feels like in the future?
Starting point is 00:42:27 I was looking at. I'm looking at my notes. I totally forgot to mention after he leaves Frankie Faison, there's a second where he's looking on and then he says, you ain't beat yet for long. And it's like, wait, it's, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:42:45 It's literally like, they're like, oh, also this black man, the magical black man. He's like badger vans. The whole conclusion of their, the whole conclusion of their interaction is that this guy is like, you have to remember, like, you're an eagle and you can fly. Like, you can't stop flying. And Alex is like, yeah, you're right, I can fly.
Starting point is 00:43:07 No, okay. I, Masha, there is not in a thousand years that I could have understood that that's the lesson I'm supposed to get from that. I literally thought the lesson that the Eagleman was teaching is like, you can just choose to die if you just close your eyes. and yeah like and like so in your mind Emilio Sves was like that's a really bad lesson actually I'm not going to do that
Starting point is 00:43:33 he's encouraging self-harm but yeah also Anthony Hopkins ends the conversation with Renee Russo by saying I have to go I'm late for a meeting with the European president which is another incredible line not even the president of Europe
Starting point is 00:43:52 but just the European president. Like, it could be any country. Like, um, and then, uh, it cuts to Mike from Breaking Bad, who's interviewing a nun. And he slaps her in the face. And then she is like,
Starting point is 00:44:09 the Lord, the Lord commands to turn the other cheek. But then she, uh, kicks him in the balls. Yeah, and says, but the good, the good Lord never had to deal with dickheads. you, which I think he might beg to differ on that one.
Starting point is 00:44:28 They did a lot more than slap him, sweetheart. God, if God is real, he must be so annoyed that he has to take care of all the annoying people on the planet besides everyone else. Yeah, period. But, like, they have a confusing thing. There's a confusing thing that's going to happen where... Emilio Asvez is going to be fine. They're taking him to a location where an event is going to occur and he's going to be fine.
Starting point is 00:44:59 And René Rousse is like, I can't go with you. And then, but the driver, as the driver is walking him there, boom. I want to. So sexy. I want to pause on that scene real quick where they're in the back of the, it's René Rousseau and Emilio Estevez. And you find out, like, she's like, I can't go with you. Like, I have a life here.
Starting point is 00:45:19 And he's like, what do you mean? Like, I love you. and she's like, would you have gone with me if I asked you to give up your whole life? And he's like, yeah, probably not. And it's like the whole, the whole movie sort of rests on the idea that like these two people are important to each other and that like their love can conquer anything. But it's like, they have like some chemistry, I guess. But at the end of the day, they're both just like, I actually like don't give a fuck about you. Well, no, I mean, but honestly, like think about it because like Renee Russo is like canonically like.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Emilio Estevez is like 19 years old and René Rousseau is like 40. Yeah. Like, you know, she's like, listen, uh, at one point he's like, what happened between us? And she's, it's like, brother, like, it's been 18 years and you have not aged one day. Like it's, it's insane. Also, also, by the way, for Al. for a long. It only feels like it's been two days.
Starting point is 00:46:25 Or he says it's been only two days for me. And like the, also they have a sex scene earlier where like as they're having sex it keeps cutting to the car exploding, which I think was like brilliantly stolen in the movie Munich
Starting point is 00:46:43 where it keeps cutting to the Israeli Olympic team being massacred as Eric Bonna fucks the hell out of his wife. It kind of reminds me of the sex scene from Peewee's Big Top Circus, where the sex scene just stops and it cuts immediately
Starting point is 00:47:00 to a train going through a tunnel. The explosion being like the train in the tunnel. Does that have Yes, yes, Bewee's Big Top Circus is a sex scene, and the train is going into the like
Starting point is 00:47:15 tunnel. There's like a volcano going off. There's like a lot of sexual end-to-window. You can look it up. I don't need. There's like an amazing riff on that in the, sorry, this has, this is really taking us far afield, but there's kind of an amazing riff on that bit of like the train go, like sex scene cutting to a train going into a tunnel.
Starting point is 00:47:35 I think it's in like one of the scary movies where it's like these two women start having sex and then it cuts to like two prop train tunnels like bumping into each other. Oh, that's really good. That's really fucking good. Because I mean the the train tunnel during sex is like a very famous. like yeah like on it i think the first time that happened in a movie it was like uh sun sunrise the uh f w merneau movie i believe it is but like the i don't know what i don't know what the also the most famous one the most famous one probably being north by northwest like yeah yeah where it's like
Starting point is 00:48:11 literally alfred hitchcock like getting around the haze code by like cutting from them making out to just like a train going into a tunnel and it says the end on the the screen. But like, yeah, in this, it's a car exploding. But like, as they're, as they're walking to this boat that he's going to get on to go to wherever, it explodes. And then they're completely under attack. And this is the funniest, one of the funniest lines of all time is it's him and this and the
Starting point is 00:48:49 like bodyguard slash driver and they're both like crouched behind a box. He's like, they've got, Emilio Svesz, like, they've got us cornered. And the bodyguard is like, what do you mean us, white man? Just kidding. Keep me covered. And like, but he says just kidding. Yeah. Not even one second later.
Starting point is 00:49:12 It's so funny. Like how quickly he says. Well, they're kind of in the middle of a shootout. Yeah. But I love being like, what do you mean white man? Just kidding. Also, sexiest thing about Boone besides just visually how the way he looks is that he has both a gun and a short cantana. Cantana.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Can'ta. Cantana. It's a really strange mix of weapons because like we said, like there's like normal modern day guns and then there's laser guns that are like very rarely shown. and then this guy immediately after saying just kidding he immediately gets shot by one of the bonejackers and then he kills the bonejacker with a sword that he has randomly and then he says for long keep my grandma smiling I straight up like for a trillion dollars I couldn't tell you what he means by that like there's no setup for that like there is like kind of a setup or like as they're walking to the boat Boone is like
Starting point is 00:50:17 You know There's like 8 million people in this city And like their hope rests on you Like I know that my grandma is smiling Knowing that you're free And then like right as right before he dies He turns to him and it's like Keep my grandma smiling
Starting point is 00:50:31 And then he immediately kills himself With a future grenade that he also He has like five weapons on him Yeah The also this scene is really Really like my favorite My absolute favorite thing about this scene Is that it's
Starting point is 00:50:46 really the scene where someone responsible for this movie was like in the future helmets will be invincible like 20 times in this movie in this scene he's like you know
Starting point is 00:51:01 fighting with these guys and their helmets like he keeps shooting them in the helmet nothing happens he hits him in the head with the helmet with a lead pipe like as hard as he fucking can and the guy just just does head doesn't even bounce really it just kind of like stays
Starting point is 00:51:16 in the same position. Yeah, and like, Mick Jagger, by the way, is wearing a helmet. Like, it looks like a child putting on his dad's motorcycle helmet. Like, every time he puts it on, it's way too big for his tiny little head. He's got a tiny head in real life. He is a small man. I mean, you were just at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Jacques. Like, you've seen his outfits.
Starting point is 00:51:38 They didn't have a room of where it was just all the naked bodies and heights of every popular musician. No, but they had, like, all the outfits. and you see like every, every single one of them is like 5-5. I guess I was just too busy, like, really deeply staring with the biggest eyes I could ever have at the Natalie Merchant Ophelia costume exhibit. But I didn't, if I would have seen something from McJaggers at the Rock and Roll Hall of Museum, I would have been like, piss off, whatever. Period.
Starting point is 00:52:10 And then here's, this part really, really confused me. Like, he has a gun on Mc Jagger, the worst tracker in the world. Like, he gets the drop on him so easily by just, like, pointing, by literally, Mc Jagger is slowly walking around with, like, basically with his eyes closed. And, like, he turns around and, you know, Emilio Estevez has the gun on him. And then, like, ten people walk in, and they're like, hey, Vigendak, fuck you. and Emilio Estevez is like no fuck you got
Starting point is 00:52:46 and then like shoots all of them and I'm like wait so they're they're not on his those guys that's a different faction that we haven't met yet it's just a random group of proles that Emilio Estevez kills
Starting point is 00:52:58 even though they're trying to save him from the bad guy I didn't get that at all okay but the Siddak's like you could have killed me why not and like
Starting point is 00:53:10 I honestly I loved this I love this aspect of them like becoming friends because it really truly is my favorite my favorite trope like ever in movies like when two like
Starting point is 00:53:26 enemies who are sick have to team up or they like team up out of respect at the end to get like someone worse and you know that's why for a few dollars more is my favorite Western like it happens like it's
Starting point is 00:53:41 such a good trope. And in this one, like, um, this one, it, it, it eventually has such a good payoff at the end, an ending that I genuinely love, like, but, um, at, at this point, he points the gun back at McJagger and he's like, tell me the name of the guy. And McChagger's like, it actually turns out McCandilus, the guy who runs the corporation who brought you here and, uh, the guy who is the guy who trying to capture you and destroy your brain he's actually the bad guy and it's like who the fuck else
Starting point is 00:54:19 would it be? Yeah and it's just poor furlong I mean he's being chased the entire movie by his Roland stone and it's not even a rolling stone it's Hannibal who wants him yeah literally he's like the rolling stones
Starting point is 00:54:35 are bringing him to Hannibal Lecter but like then they basically like he meets with Renee Rousseau, and he's like, oh, Mick Jagger's like, I'll give you a five-minute head start. And I'm like, truly, no, five-minute. He says five-minute. I promise you. Yeah, he's like, I'll give you a five-minute head start. And then, which I'm like, okay, like literally the worst, the worst person at his job in the world. And then Mick Jagger's, yeah, Mick Jagger's, like Israeli tank drives up. His oranges.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Israeli tank drives up. By the way, all of the tanks and all of the military vehicles on Vesendac's team all look spray-painted red. They don't look like at all. They look like they were done like 10 minutes before the movie. Pay attention to his paint job, people. Literally. And period.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And, you know, Renee Russo's in it and she's like, get in. I stole this really easily from him when he wasn't even figured. He's really bad at his job. he's the best there is. But, and, like, I keep trying, I keep almost calling him Michael Douglas. Alex Furlong is, like, your boss is actually evil. And René Rousse was like, that's fucking bullshit, dude. Like, he's so good.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Even though his... He's just a 90-year-old white man. What could he have done wrong? And, like, literally Rousseau calls him and is like, hey, are you trying to kill him? And he's, he's like, yeah, I'm really. really sorry, you know? We need him for a client. There's also a scene earlier where a force ghost Michael Douglas in a hood is like,
Starting point is 00:56:21 I need my body. And it's never reference again. But, um, Anthony Hopkins. You said Michael Douglas. Or, Emilio Estevez is who it is. But, um,
Starting point is 00:56:34 basically, like, they go to the building. Mike from Breaking Bad is there. And he delivers a, another amazing line, which is, actually Anthony Hopkins died
Starting point is 00:56:46 three days ago. His mind is in the spiritual switchboard, and he needs your body. The spiritual switchboard. His only mistake was asking me to take care of everything. This man doesn't know that I fucking suck at this. But he's like, I actually have a plan.
Starting point is 00:57:09 I'm going to be new boss. I'm going to let him die. And then he's like, all right, you guys can leave. And he would have won right there. But then he picks up a walkie-taki and he's like, kill them when they get down there. Wait, also two seconds
Starting point is 00:57:24 for the after that, he looks at René Russo's character and goes, your services are no longer needed here, miss. And she walks up to him and you think she's about to say something. And that she just slaps him as hard as he
Starting point is 00:57:40 can on the face. And the Mark Michelette played by Jonathan Banks, the better call Saul Mike guy, makes this face kind of like after you come where you just you can't maintain any
Starting point is 00:57:56 express. I fucking loved that scene. He makes his face where his eyes are wide open, but like soulless and his mouth is agape. And he, like, for whatever reason, she was not trying to pleasure him but he she did
Starting point is 00:58:11 It's also like when he got hit I don't know if I got that from that part Yeah I don't know I don't know if I agree with that Throughout the entire movie Mark Michelette is hit And he doesn't fucking hit them back or anything He gets he gets kicked in the nuts by the fucking nun And he just makes this goofy ass like the eyes going inward Like oh my nuts
Starting point is 00:58:36 And like there's no response So you would have hit you would have beat the fuck out of that nun is what you're saying I don't know I don't know what I would have done I'm not a nun I'm not a Mark Michelette but what I do know what I do know here right now Well I would never kill Amanda Plummer that's just the thing I yeah I'm not gonna kill Amanda Plummer but you hit her you'd slap her around a bit What about for a million dollars? No I wait well I mean I I I just I just think that there was something about the casting where they were like,
Starting point is 00:59:12 we need to get a guy that can get like take a nice hit in the nuts or a punch in the stomach and just make a real good face. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, and then they basically, they go to the top of the hotel from New Vegas. And something I realized, the top of this building is supposed to look like a jack.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Okay? And so does the machine, the free jack machine. Oh, it literally, it literally for, literally for no. reason.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Yeah. It's, I mean, but there's an amazing scene where they really go nuts on the special effects. I actually really think this scene looks cool. Oh, it looks beautiful. And Anthony Hopkins is like,
Starting point is 00:59:56 I'm actually gonna, he says, my, he says, I sentence myself to death for trying to end your love. Because he's like, I'm in love with Renee Russo.
Starting point is 01:00:07 I tried to steal your body, full disclosure. so why don't you fucking you know delete my why don't you delete my brain type in my code
Starting point is 01:00:16 and press delete and he's doing it and he's like try it again it didn't work try it again yeah and he keeps doing it and he's like try it again
Starting point is 01:00:25 it's like I like literally he's like I think he this guy's fucking with me and then Vesendack walks in and
Starting point is 01:00:37 Anthony Hopper is like, this guy's, I just prank the fuck out of this guy with that code shit. And, you know, they do the mind transfer. He relives his whole life, which is crashing his car and did nothing else. And then they, the machine explodes when Jonathan Banks comes in and shoots the jack. And, like, real quick, I do want to say, I don't know why this line fucking got me, but I think it's because, like, the name Vesendac sounds like a name
Starting point is 01:01:13 that was written for, like, they just wanted to hear Anthony Hopkins say those syllables, because there's this line where Anthony Hopkins goes, well, Vicendac, shall we do it? Shall we make the switch? And it fucking crack me the fuck up. Also, I feel like we just really
Starting point is 01:01:28 glanced over a really important detail. The visuals of the spiritual switchboard is like... Are so good. So mind-blowing amazing. It's kind of like in Lawson translation when they go to the club where it's all of these wall-to-wall projections of like nature to the point where the whole room is kind of glowing and it's you just you're kind of transported and it's the one moment in the movie where you kind of have a little bit of
Starting point is 01:01:58 beauty and just like calm but the only other moment that's like calm and beautiful in the entire movie is when Alex and Julie are flirting in the very opening scene and they're just being like a sweet couple. And then we go back and it's obviously like a tense movie moment, thematical moment with like the screens, but you're almost like just kind of taken away from the plot line and just so invested in the beauty of the spiritual switchboard. It could be a full second movie just about the spiritual switchboard. It's kind of like it's kind of like the scene from Spike Kids when the Spike kids go into Floup's mind palace. It's like very that.
Starting point is 01:02:38 God. Yeah, period. Period. But basically, Emilio Estevez is like, I'm the transfer completed. I'm now Anthony Hopkins. And Mick Jagger is like,
Starting point is 01:02:55 oh, like, what's your code? This is my favorite fucking part of the movie. Oh my God, it's so fucking good. For about like one. second, I was like, because McJaggers, like, if you're really McHandless, like, give me your personal ID number. And then Emilio Esteva, there's like a long pause.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Emilio Estevez says six. Six. And Vicendax says, correct. It's so funny. Well, you think that it's, the way that it's delivered, you think that the number is just going to end that six. Yeah, literally. No, it's amazing.
Starting point is 01:03:31 It's amazing. He's guessed the right number. He's guessed one out of ten numbers and he chose the right one. And I mean, he, of course, he keeps going. And Jonathan Banks, they kill him. And then he's like, bring my car around. Me and Renee Russo are going to drive to the world. And then, like, the Sendek meets him on the street.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Because just to clarify, at this point, Furlong is now pretending that the sole transfer has gone through. Yeah, yeah. So he can pretend to be McCandless inside of Furlong's body. so him and Julie can escape without any further pressure. Yeah, so he can be like literally the dictator of the world, basically, is what he is now. And like... Yeah, it's not at all like a pro-lateriate movie. Yeah, which is weird.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Because Dan fucking Gilroy, like, wrote it. And he, you know, he's not exactly, like, not exactly a fascist or a capital. But it reads like a lost Einrand novel. It's like, what if you just like... Became the Uber Mench. Yeah. Yeah. Like, what it's like so, like, and then like Vesendek pulls him over and delivers, I think,
Starting point is 01:04:51 I think Mick Jagger does right here like the best line delivery of the movie where he's like, Renee Rousseau's like, oh my God, you're Emilio Estevez. but how did you know the how did you know the code and McJegger's like he didn't I lied he wasn't even close that's a really good impression
Starting point is 01:05:13 of how he says it yes and I was like let's fucking go dude I love I love that you know the entire movie he's like just trying to kill him trying to kill him trying to kill him and finally you know what he's like honestly this guy's a worthy
Starting point is 01:05:27 foe I'm going to let him live it's just I honestly also I don't give a fuck Yeah, I feel like right away he was like, I'm actually, I don't even, I like this guy, he's cute. I'm not even going to try to kill him at all for the entire movie. It really explains everything that he does. But the final line of the movie is amazing. It's Michael Doug, or I keep calling him fucking, I'm just going to call Michael Douglas. It doesn't even, Michael Douglas is like sitting in the car, which, again, is a car from like 1921, like a piercing.
Starting point is 01:06:01 arrow or rolls Royce and he's like let's see what this baby can do it's like buddy probably not a lot you started that you had to start that thing with a crank at the front of the car like it probably cannot
Starting point is 01:06:18 go very fast I'm sorry to tell you but yeah that is then the end of the movie he's free he's Jack he's also like the richest man in the world yeah he's
Starting point is 01:06:34 it's a similar ending to ready player one honestly and uh uh uh don't ever don't ever upset me like that again I thought I had forgotten that piece of shit fucking god but what did you guys think of this movie
Starting point is 01:06:49 did you guys like this movie? I'll let Masha go actually excuse me I'm so sorry to no no no Jock you go for it I just truly actually love this movie Hessa, I called Hessa in the middle of the night to be like, hey, what movie should I watch tonight, like, right now immediately? Like, I just, I had already spent an hour in 45 minutes going through every single streaming app, reading list of every movies, clicking trailers, trying to decide what movie. Finally, Hessa's like, hey, why don't you do the one that you're supposed to do for work that's required of you that you haven't seen that we need to do, you know, immediately anyway?
Starting point is 01:07:28 and I was like, oh my God. Oh my God, that's perfect. That's the most basic suggestion. And I was really honestly, I needed a Nancy Myers, like, The Holiday-esque kind of movie, something gentle on my broken soul that could lift me up. But you know what? It turns out I actually needed a futuristic dystopian action adventure nightmare in order to really realize the importance of my life and love.
Starting point is 01:07:56 I love this movie There's a little few details I wanted to end on I loved that It's just this is one of those eras of Science Fiction Dysopian Future movies Where I mean Obviously this movie took a lot of nods from Blade Runner
Starting point is 01:08:14 I feel like There was a Not only a lot taken from Blade Runner I mean you got the villain Of a movie played by a famous musician Just like I Isaac Hayes playing the Duke and Escape from New York. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Escape, Chuck, you brought up Escape from New York when we were texting when you were watching this movie. And it really is, like, dead on. Like, that is, like, the big, I feel like that's the big, uh, inspiration behind this. And like, a lot of these other dystopian type movies. Um, it, it was just, they're, really honestly, it, 99.9.9% I felt like, perfect movie. Maybe it was a little tiny bit too long, but the amazing cast, there's not a fucking dull movie moment. There's not like a single moment of the movie where it stops and the pace goes down. You're constantly on the run with furlong. You don't know where you stand
Starting point is 01:09:15 emotionally. You don't know who you, who your vote. You don't know what's going on a lot of the time. You don't know who is shooting at you, who's on what team? there's randomly a scene where McJagger crushes a Faberger crushes a Faberger and his fist and then Jonathan Banks is like get the fuck out of my office
Starting point is 01:09:34 McJagger spends a lot of time in this movie just hanging out in like his man cave basically doing nothing but yeah Masha what did you think of this movie what was your
Starting point is 01:09:49 I mean yeah I thoroughly enjoyed it It does, in my mind, it doesn't make any fucking sense. And the pacing is, is absolutely nuts. But, you know, it had a, it had a stacked cast. I was like, when I finished it, I was sort of left with the feeling of, like, if this was, like, an anime, it would have been, like, fucking amazing.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Not that I'm, like, a big consumer of anime, but I kind of feel like it has, kind of similar to, like, something like Cowboy Bebop, where it's, like, you're sort of thrown into a world without a lot of explanation. And I think it's something like Cowboy Bebop that really works or like, or even like a Tarantino, like Pulp Fiction, you're kind of, I guess you get a fair amount of backstory. But it's also like, you know, sci-fi film Pulp Fiction. No, no, no, no, but I just know. No, I know, I'm kidding. You know, stylistically, it's like you're, you're thrown into this very specific, heavily stylized world.
Starting point is 01:10:47 And people come on and you're just like, oh, like, it's this guy. And it's like using their first and last name. And this had that too where it was like, yeah, it's a sense. Dac. The Sendax, the guy now who's here. Bone jackers. You're supposed to care about. Yeah, he's a bone jacker. The spiritual switchboard. Yeah, but it was like, it was missing, I think some kind of like through line or like, I don't know, but I did enjoy it a lot.
Starting point is 01:11:13 The, um, Anthony Hopkins, uh, famously later said that this is quote, a very, very bad movie, uh, which, fuck him. Yeah. Fuck you, Anthony. He's such a fuck. Sir Anthony Hopkins Why, you're such a little Sir Anthony Hopkins little bitch You can't even fucking respect a movie
Starting point is 01:11:32 You got his ass He's like he's the funniest casting in this movie to me In my mind because it's like Yeah we have this character You have to defend the movie You can't just go and star in a movie And then publicly disparage it It is absolutely unpolite
Starting point is 01:11:47 And not acceptable behavior In modern society I agree Jacques I also just think like his casting is really funny to me because it's like, yeah, we have like this character who we need, like, the audience needs to think that he's like a good guy for the first, like, three quarters of the movie. And then, like, at the very end, you find out that he's actually evil.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Who do we get to play that? Anthony Hopkins in 1991. Yeah. The, I mean, like, also the, the, maybe the funniest thing about Anthony Hopkins's, uh, role is that very, very, very. clearly he was on this set for one maybe two days like yeah all of his scenes take place separate from everyone else except for the very end like yeah literally like it's it's so funny um but yeah i i also really love this movie obviously uh or else i wouldn't have
Starting point is 01:12:43 suggested it i this is uh one of my favorite genres of movie is these like way way way too overambit kind of like action sci-fi movies. Would you consider this a neo-noir? I, it's almost, it's, I don't know if I would. But there's, is this kind of mystery element of like, because the plotline is so confusing,
Starting point is 01:13:11 you don't know what's going on. I wouldn't consider it a neo-noir just because, I mean, that is such like a difficult to, like, define term. I once made a chart about what makes a neo-noir and I can send it to both of you. But the, that's how much I fucking, that's how gay I am. That's how much of the dirt I am. I'm like, actually, I once made a chart.
Starting point is 01:13:41 But, yeah, there's, I do think that this does not fall into the kind of, you know, a very amorphous space of a neo-noir just because it's much more of an action movie I would say in the same way of like like the thing about Blade Runner that really like people don't get
Starting point is 01:14:04 that the thing that's good about Blade Runner is Is that Decker it's a replicant? No, it's two things. It's one that it's not like the new Blade Runner movie the 2049 or whatever that one's like
Starting point is 01:14:19 oh we have to try and be really deep and predict the future. And the first Blade Runner movie was like, what if a rapist was a cop in a future world? And like that's all it. It was just like a good story told in a like a cool world. I recommend the director's cut if you have not seen. Yeah, he doesn't say the hard RN word in the director's cut. Like he does in the theatrical version.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Wait, what? Yeah, he says the hard R. N word in the theatrical version, Jock. Did you not know that? That's such a weird, like, I mean, I guess the director just knew that he wouldn't want that to be part of it. It's just a weird thing that, like, the theatrical version would feature. Like, they were like, we should make this for every audience, and then this one for the small people that we'll see this movie. But, yeah, the best thing about, like, my favorite thing about Blade Runner is that Decker, is evil and bad at his job.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Like he's an evil, evil guy. He's his sexual violence as a weapon. He is like basically, he cannot catch anyone. He shoots a woman in the back when she's running from him who is literally just no threat to anyone at all. It's just like, you know, he gets his ass handed to him by every single other replicant that he hates. I got so excited that I
Starting point is 01:15:52 that I had missed a scene where he got his ass eaten. Oh my God, no. That's in the theatrical cut also. They cut that part out. That's where he says the hard R.N word. That's the scene where he sees the unicorn and he gets butt-fucked by the horn, right? Yeah, literally. Period.
Starting point is 01:16:10 But yeah, the, yeah, this, everyone should watch Freejack. It's a good movie. Masha, thank you so much for coming. on. Thank you for up and me. Yes. Well, yes.
Starting point is 01:16:21 Masha, I have a special set off for you. I have prepared a single a three second song that I wrote last night for you. It's instrumental, but it's about how I feel about you. So let me just perform this
Starting point is 01:16:36 before we go. Oh my God. Wow. Wow. That was very difficult. That's going to be a nightmare in the edit. Don't get it. Don't give me a whistle.
Starting point is 01:16:52 Don't give me a whistle. No one should... I did it. No one, none of us gave you a whistle. Neither of us did. No, can I tell you where I got this whistle from? I don't think of you... I really have to pee, but you...
Starting point is 01:17:04 Well, maybe I shouldn't say it, actually. Okay, okay. All right. Thank you, everyone. Thank you for listening. We'll see you next time. Bye. Bye.

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