Seeking Derangements - SD 476 - Horizontal Integration

Episode Date: February 25, 2026

Hello Seekers! Ben here, today Jacques, Hesse and I are joined by our dear Mr. Max to discuss the Gay Tech Mafia allegedly operating in Silicon Valley. Then Max's co-host on the Drain, Dave Kempa, joins us for a preview of their show about California politics. Intro & Outro–Yerba Brava, Como Te Voy A Olvidar

Okay, I am doing two local tracks because we might be joined by my co-host. Okay, period. Yes. Hello, everyone. Welcome to the other engagements. It's Ben. Jock will be joining us shortly. Max is back.

We've got the whole... Hello. Back in the trap. It's so nice to be back, y'all. It is genuinely so... I am overjoyed. I've been dreaming. I had a sex dream about this.

Oh. Oh. What happened? Who was doing what? Who was doing what? Where were the bodies? Well, we were all looking at jock jacking off is what was happening. That was the sex-dry.

Nightmare. Where were the bodies and which bodies were buried in the other bodies? It's like, you know how some Basset Hounds need their anal glands expressed? Yes. Oh, yes. I didn't know that. So we were, yeah, on stage in front of a thousand of our most loyal fans at Terminal 5. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. We were having a good time, dude. We were having a nice time. I love that. I think Jock's been really itching to do some live shows, so maybe you can pitch him on doing that, Max. Oh, my God.

Yeah. And he would. He would. Oh, my God. Here we go. A sighting. Welcome. Usually in cans falling out of the sky when he was just doing his own count of

that's amazing. Oh, God damn. I thought we were waiting for a matter. to work diva. Hello, mother. This is a fucking trick. Yeah. For those at home, Jacques was in the call before we started and got up to get something.

Hello. Because I was waiting. And we pranked on him. We pranked on him. Well, hey, Max. It sounds like California. Is it hot or cold? It is.

I looked at the car temperature thing. It was 72 degrees today and balmy. Why are you sitting in front of a, um, You're very much giving Gustav Petro because he's always speaking in front of like a live drum set with a full. I should have brought my bass to have in the background as well. That would have been a nice. No, this is a space that we share with a local punk but also California history. You're giving me a headache.

California history themed lyrics punk band. You're giving me a huge thing. Yes, yes. It's great. It's great. I think it's cool. I don't have to enjoy all of your affairs, but I support you. Whatever.

It's just nice that we are, that we're being seen and that we have some synergy going on, seeing as we are at California politics podcast that we and my dearly departed, but he'll come back soon. The drain. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You already had someone die on your podcast? No, no, no, no. He's coming back.

He's coming back. Period. He was going to get so jealous he was going to kill himself. We had Charlie Kirk You guys would be so fucking lucky I thought you guys knew that Charlie Kirk was our first get on the podcast He was our first on the first episode of our podcast

And we talked about how he was a huge poll At my son's Chud Montessori school Which is fucking Future president of the United States, y'all I can't wait Are you still working for that school? No, no, no Well

That's, yeah Let's leave Maxo. Maxo there's an employer Yes, yes. Well, no, not for much longer. The diocese is closing it. I guess we can talk about it now. They were raping kids.

They were raping kids. They were raping kids in the 70s. In the 70s. What's it called? What's that preschool called, Max? That they did that. The move bombing? I don't know what you're talking about.

The Satanic Panic. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Make something. I already had to teach a kid. Okay, it is funny. I already had to. This is a free episode or a paid one.

This is a free code. If you want, I can't talk about that. Patreon, patreon.com slash you're Max, where Max will be spilling the tea on his. No, no, no. Yes. Long story short,

some donor gave a million dollars to the diocese and was like, okay, but only to build a gym at this particular school. And the bishop was like, oh, fuck, we got a big. We're going to do. We're going to get that school to max capacity. We're talking about 40 students to a classroom. And we're going to close a bunch of the other schools to be able to do that, right? It seems like a huge construction project to get rid of some of those bodies that have been in your basement. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's funny because the school that I work at is or used to be an orphanage.

And it is a joke at the school, or I don't know how much of a joke it is, but they say that it's haunted because the kids, there's a gallows in the courtyard. There's a fucking scary-ass basement with a bunch of electrical shit in it, which, you know, people say is haunted. But I don't know. A shit gay ghost. Don't touch me. I'm going to be the last person getting haunted at that fucking school because I'm, I'm the

woke guy, okay? I'm the good guy. I'm the guy that the ghost gets lost. I'm the penultimate victim in the in the slasher film. I'm going to be fine. I'm saying in the devil's backbone. Remember that movie? Spanish, your native language.

We all know, Max, speak Spaniard. Let's go. Let's go. Yes, I do be speaking Spaniard. I am a cunning linguist. Thank you for noticing. Here he is. Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. I had a Spanish guy, sorry. Hang on. I had a Spanish guy. tell me periodo and I had to talk to him, it's, it's point and aparte. Punto and aparte is period. Punto and a part.

But there's point and aparte and point and finales. That's, punti aparte is you're moving on and you're finishing the... That is the end of the fucking paragraph. Last word. You're done, bitch. You're out. You're out. It's fucking over for you, okay?

The blood's, the blood is fucking thick on the streets. You understand? It was a lot of blood for such a small, I'm even thicker. Sorry, go on. What are we doing today? I got a new face. You know, you don't have a new phase.

You have a new phase. You have a new phrase, but I don't know if you remember. What's your new phrase? Where's my Uber remote? Yeah, there we go. There we go. I'm slowly building mental confidence back. I feel like I'm going from dementia levels to maybe like your grandfather before dementia.

Okay. Period. Period. going down to grandfather levels. Bidia. Pudo finale! I'm going to give you it. I love when Hesse's a Spanish.

We should do an all-Spanish episode someday. I would love... I've been learning Italian. It's really hard. I never want to do a French episode. Yes, bitch. You can do a French episode yourself, Deva? Hessa, can I parla?

Can I parla a little bit at you? Can I parla some? Yeah, go ahead. No, me piace il guaccio. Huh? Uh? Oh. You don't understand.

No me what? Give it to me again. I want to hear it. I want to hear it. Give it to me, Natalia. Non me piache il giatio. Oh, yeah. I don't like pussy.

My name is Maximilian and I'm a faggot. Yes, yes. It means I don't like ice. I don't like ice. Oh. Trendy. Yes. Trendy.

Come on. You're so. You're so. This is so bitter. You're jealous that like ice victims are getting more attention than you're. I'm not jealous. I am not. They are getting headlines.

They're getting skinny. They're getting skinny. They're getting skinny. And that's the problem. I just met that the fact that he knows that phrase seems like something a trendy person. I learned that when I was eight. Okay. Just call them a virtue signal.

I've been about it. Just do it. I love your. I didn't even say that. I didn't even say that. I literally just said it's probably trendy to know that right now because everyone fucking hates eyes. Wake it up.

Is that so crazy to say? I fucking hate ice. There we go. They are... Pure. Way without you. Speaking of the U.S. government imperial complex, unfortunately, the invasion of Iran will have to be postponed because the...

What are you talking about? They got Gatorade coming out of the water fountain, Hess. I don't see the problem. Yeah. That is so cool. Navy a Navy tanker is like full of like it's a US aircraft carrier it's like a huge it's literally like the biggest ship the biggest moving thing that exists in the world like the biggest moving vehicle yeah um and every single toilet on it is shooting guisers of poop out I love that the

article about it described it as the plumbing suddenly reversed yes yeah what a nightmare they They so simply put the worst thing that could happen. Yeah, literally, the one thing you don't want plumbing to do is reverse. On a boat, on the boat, worst of all, which is like, you know, like you're already, you only have so much water you can use to clean and stuff. You can't like, like spray a bunch of fucking ocean, you know. I thought it was a Navy shit. And I was like, oh, it's because all the, all these guys. But you know, you have to sit.

They're all getting stuck. Isn't it so suspicious that this happened right after it went through Israel, Israeli waters? I don't want to go any further than that. But this was not happening on the leg from the Atlantic to Spain. That Jewish food make you poop, y'all. That's what Max is trying to do. Check the expiration date is all I'm saying. Check the expiration date on the Sabra.

They went to Clinton Trump Pizzeria. They had to go the long way around because they closed the fucking straight of Hormuz. I get it. Can I get a lot of pizza with extra white fish on top, please? in a side of corned beef deli ham rye sandwiches. Yes. In fact, I'll have three of those. Why am I going to be every time?

I love it. It's so funny. Full Woody. I just can't. I came on today on the wrong time. No, no, you came on at the right time. I see you. I see you, Shadi.

I'm not anti-Semites. I just hate Israel. We'll talk about it more when we get to talking about the Nancy Pelosi's successor. We don't even need to talk about it. Is Pelosi Jewish? No, no, but the, but the anointed, the anointed, which hopefully, you know what, there's, there's still some time before.

Can I, can I do a little, like, preview? Please, yeah. Well, let's just wake it up, Max. Yeah, we can just dive right into it. Wake me up inside. I, I think we both, we all saw this article on Wired about the gay mafia in tech. And basically, like, the main allegation is like, you know, if you want to get anywhere in tech, like, more than being Indian, more than being like a particular cast or whatever. Like, we've heard those like in poll stories before.

But like a really under explored aspect is how being gay and how being like attractive gay guy most of all. Like will catapult you to the very tippy top of like tech. The build that Peter Thiel will throw you off of, D. Yes, yes. Yeah, period. The Eiffel Tower that he's got, the tent that he's erecting in his pants, essentially. Like, yeah, yeah. Like, basically it's, it's, it's, the thesis, the thesis is, it's, it's all clavicular's that, that are running.

Well, like, I guess to put it in terms that are, that are relevant for like, plus or minus two weeks from now. It's clavicular is all over town. Right. And I mean, look, in Silicon Valley. There's, I have like a couple of pages that we can read through there. But yeah, it's essentially about how sexual favors are brokered in Silicon Valley in exchange for access to certain people or a position you might be lobbying for. But on clavicular, the whole looksmaxing stuff is just gay circuit queen culture

exposed to straight people. like yeah they all have body dysmorphia like women gay men invented this body dysmorphia I mean women invented it first you know happened to them first

but then gay men really put it into overdrive I mean there are male only spaces like in Silicon Valley like in Brooklyn on the cutting edge of culture in terms of music tech art etc where if you are not

a built gay guy a built handsome guy you just will not get certain sexual or industry opportunities. There's actually nothing novel to that. I mean, like, this is just how in-group solidarity works throughout elite industry. I thought this was how the military works. Also, I'm sure. Yes. But gay sexuality aside, this is, it's just golf course behavior, you know, it's just socializing with your in-group off the clock where actually a lot of business does happen informally.

Yeah. And it's really just like a function, like in the, like in the article, they say, only 0.5% of all startup, like, new startup founders are gay. But it's really just like that Peter Thiel and Sam Altman, who I didn't know was gay until reading this article. Oh, yeah. And Tim Cook, they're all gay. I didn't know Tim Kirk was gay. Well, they're...

You can tell he's gay, but, like, you can't pinpoint it exactly. He's gay in the same way that... I think all Apple products are gay. Like, being a straight guy, like, would be having an answer. Android instead because there's something very feminine about having so many damn apps. That's the lesbian phone. Yeah, I have an Android E reader. He's gay in the same way that the senator from South Carolina is gay.

Like Tim Apple is gay in the same way than, what's his name? Sorry. Lindsay Graham? Peter Thiel. Lindsay Graham, yeah. Tim Apple and Lindsay Graham are the same type of faggot. You know what I mean? They're not sure by their horniness.

They're kind of. They're smooth down there. They're totally smooth. Yeah. These are gay guys who just want, these are gays, I would call like, Palaces, everyone, gays. You know, they. Yeah, yeah, Ken, Kendall. They want to direct.

They want to feel important. They're kind of an old school, like, almost non-orny, non-sexual gay who has a, yes. A fair for a queen, a queen, perhaps. Yeah, he's, they're queens, they're divas. Yeah. Should we get, should we get to the article? Laces. Yes.

Yeah, let's dive right in. There was a lot of discourse around this. I saw a lot of people calling it homophilbeck. A lot of gay men are calling it homophobic, which I thought was completely absurd. But we'll get into that. One San Francisco investor tells me that he believes the Teal Fellowship is a training ground for gay industry leaders. When I run this notion pass a couple of former Teal fellows, they tell me that they met Teal one time at a dinner where he appeared slightly bored. This is one of the fellows, a street man.

I mean, I wish Peter tried to groom me. Meanwhile, people's gaiters are practically overheating. I hear more than once that anyone in Silicon Valley who has achieved outside success is probably gay. Yeah, I think, I really think this is just like the straight people in the industry are kind of being jealous. Seeing gay guys that are like Peter Thiel and Tim, Tim Apple and, you know, like Sam, like Sam Altman and are just like, yeah, like anyone who is in their circle is gay, which they probably are because these guys are like fucking like jack. who are probably like, yeah, let me get some twinks around me or something. Let me get like some hot guys around me. No, for sure.

And because it's all like from the top down, it appears due to that as like, you know, these guys are like, it's like a cabal of like gay, gay freaks kind of running the show where like, I feel like that's probably not super the case. Like, and the person who wrote this article, like, does stress that is like, yeah, it doesn't really seem like, you know, there's like, I mean, there's a lot of gay people, um, for a variety of reasons. But, like, I don't know about. I do think the truth is somewhere in the middle. I don't think this is like an anointed, you know, gay ball that is pulling the strings everywhere. I think it is more fortuitous in the sense that you have.

who are hyper ambitious nerds who excel in certain industries and then use that industry and power in that industry for their own exploits hiring a men that they think are sexy offering you know certain positions for sexual favors whatever it may be and then it just well i do like that the article goes on to say that like many conspiracy theories start off with a bit of truth and it's like i mean of course there's a bunch of gay fucking like tech CEOs that are like fucking each other and other twinks for the sake of business and not

just for pleasure. I mean it's just like synergy. I think I think they do have a point in and maybe pointing out at maybe a trend or an unintended side effect of this is like a lower participation of women

in tech like overall since these seem to be like sausage parties or trending towards being sausage parties. Like the eye candy token person in the office. Like, let's be honest. Like, as much of these guys cope as, as, as, you know, they used to cope that they were super progressive and they were super like pro women in tech and shit like that.

But that was just the way the ones was blowing, the way the money was blowing during the 2010s. Nowadays, like, it's a completely different field. And it feels like the women in STEM, like impulse. And even like the trans women in STEM impulse has come back. like especially post-COVID. It feels like to me anyway. And this is just from like taking a little like spitting on my finger and feeling where the wind's blowing in the Grants area, right?

Yeah. There's like a lot more that's like more towards like general AI stuff than there is like women in like women in general or like women in STEM or women in engineering or whatever. Well, I mean the same way women are left off golf courses by CEOs. Women are going to be left out of these gay sex parties. God has called them to be to run McDonald's like it's the Navy and faggots are called to run tuck companies like it's the same like it's the Navy, you know, but in different ways, in different

ways, you know? On the conspiracy angle, she does reach out to a guy who, um, was publishing a lot of stuff on X about how a lot of salacious stuff. This is a, a cabal that is doing, you know, just, you know, ritual sex abuse and et cetera, and she as you do, she spends a lot of time talking to him. has finally frustrated by his evasiveness, I asked what he thinks will happen if he tells me what he knows. I love parentheses killed.

He just said parentheses killed. I truly believe he says, killed. Then he often. The only way to expose this blockbuster of a tale is a project veritas. This blockbuster of a tale. His idea of like a project veritas like expose is so fucking funny. Take a 20 year old dude, make an ex account, send him to the right. places in San Francisco and you'll break this story if you go deep enough.

Isn't Project Veritas the thing that like they, they would sting various progressive groups. Planned parenthood and shit. I actually had a, I had a Project Veritas sting run on me and my Bernie office in Duboyne, Iowa. I actually, the guy didn't get any comments out of me, but I had some coworkers of mine who were harassed and got some coverage for

espousing their affections for the the Mao government. It's so funny. That's how to do it. You go Project Veritas where you just annoy people until you get them to say something. It's literally like, so funny. That's what they think a good investment is. I mean, they're extremely cooked, but I would actually love to see some kind of like stunty undercover infiltration into one of the

these parties because they actually, they don't seem that fun. I mean, clavicular is almost that. Look, if he was five IQ points higher, if he was actually like room temperature instead of slightly below IQ, he would go to the Peter Thiel parties and stream them. I mean, I guess he's probably tried and that's why he doesn't go. He turned down to Peter Thiel invite famous. No, no, no, no, no.

Because you know he's going to try to live stream those. And that's probably why he's not allowed. and he says, you know what, I declined. I turned it down. You know what I mean? Like, that's my read on him. No, no, no, of course. Of course not.

When it comes to clificular, this isn't a side, but it is also like related. This is the old right guy. Yeah, the looks maxing. Yes. The alt-right, like, celebrity. I mean, yeah, he has, like, his politics are-

your guess is as good as mine. That, like, nakedly expressed, they are more just, like, inferred. But, yeah, I think he's like, he's very right way. He's too stupid to have politics. He's just a follower of people who do. Well, he's,

He said he wanted to vote for JD Vans because he voted vote for Gavin Newsom because he Mogged J.D. fans. Actually, no, that tells me all I need to know. He's a fucking Nazi. He's voting for Kevin Newsom. He's like Kevin Newsombe. He's a stunt queen. He's performing a character.

And I just, I don't think why everyone is so taken away with like treating him as as if he's like an earnest actor. Like this, he is a drag king. He is a. drag yeah he's a conservative maggot art drag king but does he is the thing he's saying things like this because he knows it won't get engagement like i don't doubt that he's actually smoking crystal meth and i doubt he's actually doing the bone smashing thing aside from doing it on camera you know yeah i think it's when you take a hammer and you hit bones on your face to create micro fractures to improve your facial bone

structure which it doesn't work joc so don't try it i'm not going to hit myself I hit myself in the head of the camera for different reasons. I use a knife when I do it. But I think like the reason he's getting so much attention also is like that for a lot of like straight like kind of normal like nominally normal people, especially like journalists, it's their first exposure to like what gay like circuit. Gay body fascism. Yeah, gay body fascism. And they see it in and they're like, oh my God. this new invention that this guy did.

And it's like, no, it's been cooking for a while. It's a tale as old as time. I mean, women, gay men specifically. Gay men being successful? No, gay men having extremely high body standards that they kind of build like mental shrines to at the expense of actually wanting to have sex or wanting to have fun. The idea of body dysmorphia, like even same gender body dysmorphia, right?

is is like the thing that like most people like suffer like transgender body dysmorphia is is is like well i think that's a bit different like gets a lot more salience but like sasha any takes no no no i mean yeah sorry has a trans body dysmorphia for escape body dysmorphia as an expert on the subject tell us all about it as an expert on the subject thank you jock thanks No, I don't know. I feel like they're kind of the same. I feel like it's kind of similar. I guess in so far as like one is an urgent.

Getting surgeries? And dysmorphia are different. Right. Okay. I guess I'm mixing up dysphoria and dysmorphia, whatever. But one feels like an urgent need that you like need to do to like self-actualize and be the human you want to be and leave the life you want to lead. And the other one is just kind of a almost meta-desire in this way.

because you don't even, you get that sexy, but you don't have sex. You just want to be viewed as someone who could. You know, it's all theoretical. You get that sexy, but you don't get sexy. You sound like a foreigner. A foreigner. Yes. You sound like a foreigner.

I, no, but yeah, and clavicular said at one point, I think, like, someone asked him, like, do you like to have sex? And he's like, no, I view it as a waste of time. Like, it's so funny. Okay, honestly. Okay, I got to say I got to say that someone that answers that, is thinking business first.

Yes, okay. That's the right answer, Jacques. He's a drag king. Kiki Palmer just came out as an asexuals. Public article dropped two days ago. Kiki Palmer has now decided that having sex with anyone doesn't please her and that she's just concluded that she's asexual.

I love that Chiqui Balmer congratulations bitch Jacques once again shows that he gets all of his news from teenagers on TikTok I don't even

look has to shut your dumb T word mouth up because this is the thing this is a huge W for an asexual community shut up okay look listen

I do not watch that much TikTok let's be honest to get on to TikTok. I said TikTok. I said TikTok. I don't watch TikTok. I'm certainly not watching Mom talk. And I just don't I don't waste my time on TikTok. So the accusation of me learning a lot of things from TikTok is completely invalid. And you, my friend, are the emcee sucker of the week, has to you stupid bitch. Let's get back to the article. Wow. I thought we decided on another stupid donkey of the week. It's not donkey. Donkey of the day is Charlemagne the god, Max. Okay. Come on, though. We do MC suck of the week.

The MC suck of the week, whatever. I'm sorry, I'm new here. You slipping. You slip in, brother. I agree. Let's get back to the article. On any given week in San Francisco, Partifle invites float around the community.

If there is a regular Halloween party, the gays will have their own Halloween party. And Sam Altman will be there, says Jaden Clark. A straight podcaster who hosts a tech culture podcast, was not invited to the gay Halloween party. Altman attended dressed as Spider-Man, enough to answer to her. Who played the superhero and has since been cast as Altman in an upcoming film.

I hate that the fact that he's like, I'm so mad that the gay people won't invite me to the Halloween party. I have a perfectly good Marvel Spider-Man Halloween outfit to show off to my friend. You missed the article. I don't think they are having their own party because they heard there was another Halloween. party going on. Like for straight people and they were like, oh yeah, time for us to beat you. Like, it's Halloween.

There's going to be more than one part. They're gay, girl. They're going to be Yeah, you're not going to take it seriously. They're going to, I mean, but I mean, God only knows how unsuriously they take it in Silicon Valley. I mean, Sam Altman in a fucking Spider-Man costume is sucks.

That's a bad costume for Halloween. I didn't even know this Sam Altman until I googled him before the thing. And he, none of these CEOs look pretty. I think all the money in the world and they can't just have a normal

doesn't he look like Jar Jar Binks? Oh yes. He looks like they Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. You know what? You know what? Okay. Have you all ever seen Earth Girls are easy? No. No. But I had it on DVD as a kid. Yeah. So like the aliens are all.

The aliens are all hairy. But when they would shave them off, they looked human underneath. And it's the same with Sam Altman. You just got rid of the Jar Jar Binks body parts. And this is human left. His eyes are where a human's eyes would be. Like Jar Jar Binks' eyes are over here. A human's eyes are here.

And that's where Sam Altman has it. Otherwise, he looks exactly the same. It's kind of a flex for a lot of these gay CEOs. They like, they're rich. They don't tell the eel chats. They can kind of get whatever they want. Yeah. I also want to just bring something up.

In the Grinch live action movie, when the baby, when the baby Grinch, no, no, listen, listen to me. Okay. I have a gripe. Okay. I have a bone to pick. I, when the Grinch, when the child Grinch tries shaving for the first time. Oh, it's so fucked up. Because he's so hairy.

And when he goes into school the next day, he has like little tissue paper cuts on his face from shaving. But the tissue paper cuts are all on parts of his face where there wasn't any hair. So he was, what did he think? Like, he shaved the only bald places on his face. Like, give the little bastard to break. I completely agree with you. It's extremely annoying and unrealistic. It's disrespectful to the audience.

He expected more from the rich. Not haters. I feel disrespectful. That's one of the greatest American movies ever made. Insulting my intelligence. What am I a child? I watched that movie outside of Christmas because of is so damn funny.

Yes. What the fuck? Why are, what's, what's wrong? If people are coming for the baby Grinch and John Dr. Do not be coming for the baby Grinch.

Absolutely not. Go right to jail. Yes, I just came for the baby. Who's going to stop me? The jizzler has come for the baby Grinch and we are not here for that. No, the baby is doing to you. The California Democratic.

Democratic convention has come for the baby Grinch. It's only sometimes you say something that really makes me mad, but don't ever come for that fucking baby Grinch. You get mad at like everything has a set. You get mad at everything any of us say. You got all of us all day. I love all three of y'all and whatever you. The baby Grinch called me a tranny.

Can I, by the way? Can we get back to the article really quick? Can we get back and talk? I think there is, this is not a quote I pulled, but I don't know who pulled it. But there is a bit where it describes kind of like the mindset that like the best case scenario for for any of this happening, right? And it's, imagine this, says Mark. I don't know who Mark is. You're a young and nerdy, closeted gay man.

You grow up never quite fitting in. Your parents start asking questions. Why don't you have a girlfriend? And you tell them you're too busy for a relationship. Eventually, you move to say this part. No, hey, listen. Sabi, if you heard of this already, okay? Eventually, you moved to San Francisco, a city that, as one person puts it, is like Disneyland for gay men.

Your world opens up. You meet other people like you. Men who are openly out, many for the first time in their lives. These men happen to be working at influential companies. They are building technology that is astonishing and slowly it dawns on you. Maybe you, too. A person who spend a lifetime overlooked and underestimated can build something extraordinary. gays feel that they have something to prove.

This, it's cooked, minds. Yes, it's true. I think this is totally 100% true. Gay men, when they are hyper ambitious, are hyper ambitious because they are gay and because they have imbibed enough of the nascent homophobia in our culture to believe that they need to prove something. That is a evil concoction, especially.

The tip on the shoulder faggot, that that like is an overachiever at absolutely everything, a perfectionist, a cold asshole to anyone who is is not perfect with them. Yeah, no, absolutely. That is, those are thick on the ground here in San Francisco because it attracts them like a magnet. And this is what it annoyed me so much about the gay male discourse surrounding this article. So many gay men were calling, gay men who I think are smart and a little bit with it. We're like, this is just a redux on homophobia. And I'm like, what are you, sorry, what are we actually talking about it?

You are defending tech billionaires who are, at some point, these people aren't even gay, you know, like they're not. Yeah. First of all, gay is a cultural designation, not really a sexuality. So maybe these are just homosexual. Are they even fucking, are they even sexual? Well, the article even mentions at one point that like, did you don't even have to be gay to be a, part of this gay tech mafia. They like it better if you're straight.

They're turning out straight men, which I, 1,000% believe they're absolutely doing. We can all get behind that. And support, yes. Not me. I think that's horrible. It's really just disgusting. It's okay.

If you are a little sexual torture, if you're a gay CEO, I think it's totally fine to grab a little bit of your gay employee's ass because between gay men, there is a flippancy to all of that that I think is actually fine. Most gays are on board with it. you can tell when they're not.

I'm not out here groping people. If I get groped, it's kind of a big whatever for me. If you do it to a straight guy. That's how I got the job on the show, by the way. Go ahead. Yes, yes. You just misgenit yourself, Diva. Hey, there, Mr. Ben grabbed my ass and said, hey, there, Mr. Mann.

God damn it. Is this the front or the back? And then I turned around and Ben threw up. And said, you're hilarious. You're higher. You're hilarious looking. Do you want to be on the podcast? I love throwing up at the side of someone and then going,

you're hilarious. You've really made my vomit turnout. But go ahead, Ben. You were saying, turning out straight men, you know, sexually harassing your straight employees is disgusting and, like, actually crosses the line. And I'm being a little flip it when I say it's okay to your gay employees, but it is a different thing when you do it to your straight employees.

It's just down the street. It's just down the street from baited straight guys porn, which is never a good avenue to get to, because that is also like just across the street from like soft sea and sea. I know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Also the the thing like that this this type of like hyper fixated sublimated sexuality kind of overachieving like driver gay. because of the way that they're kind of the way that they are so like closeted and sublimated and like forced to hold everything in their whole life once they get a modicum like even like a little sliver of power or anything they're like I've kind of earned using this to you know to create yeah to create like to hire I candy around myself yeah article I when I read it it it's seemed like it was straight guys that were willing to get fucked to the butt once to move

them their ways up in the Silicon Valley. Well, it seems like straight guys were lamenting that they weren't allowed to do that. That's actually one of the funny parts. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, oh, I wish Peter Thiel would move me. I read that earlier. Yeah.

Who was the podcaster who was sold he didn't get invited to the party? Some guy named fucking Jalen girl. The men's insane. Names in this article are so funny. Oh my God. Lashy. Lashy groom. Lashy groom is so funny.

My favorite thing is they were like, Lashy groom used to be Sam Altman's boyfriend, and they say at one point, I'm going to paraphrase here, because it'll just be quicker, but like, they say at one point that people were like, they were scratching their heads because he somehow got $250 million for one investment

and $100 million for another investment. Must be fucking nice, man. I think it's probably less because he's gay and looks like a jock teenager. And more because Silicon Valley is total fucking bullshit and everything there is fake. And it's all fake companies, fake products. And it's about who you know.

Yes. I don't think of those two things are mutually exclusive. Yeah. I mean, of course not. Of course not. It is easier to trust someone. Like, there is a type of gay guy who trusts someone a little bit more

if they know, like, I know. what you are capable in the bedroom. And this goes for straight people as well. This is how business used to be done, right? During the math era, when everybody knew who had affairs with whose secretary and whatever, right?

Like, it's just the same thing. It's just the gay guys are now openly able to do that as well. Also, you, like, if you're an investor and you're like, okay, where should I put my money? This bullshit startup that by some, like, random person or this bullshit startup by a guy who knows, who has fucked Sam,

Altman. I think I'll probably, like this one probably has more chance of succeeding. Has a chip on their shoulder from being from Nebraska, you know, and has fucked Sam Altman, like that's an incredible combo. That's a Y Combinator. You know he's willing to do a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What is Y Combinator also, by the way?

Yeah, yeah. So for those who don't know, what Y Combinator is, and get ready to know a lot more. Shut the fuck up. No. You're reading it. Y Combinator is the flagship, small business, whatever incubator for Silicon Valley, right? And has been for a long, long time. So like a lot of these big companies that you know of that are super ubiquitous, like think Dropbox, think Reddit, think like PayPal.

PayPal. Well, PayPal is pre-Y Combinator, but yes, like the PayPal guy, Peter Thiel, is very involved with Y Combinator. And White Combinator, like, it's other founders, like Gary Tan, for example, are very powerful, like, locally when it comes to local politics. When it says that they're all opening their own startups, they're all following these companies up with more companies. It's just like a never-ending net. Yeah. So basically, like, what you do is if you are a student at Berkeley or Stanford or MIT or whatever, you want to go to San Francisco and you want to be a big company, what you do is you reach out to one of these perverts like Gary Tan. and you ask them for a lot of money.

You basically do an application like you're applying for college again or like you're applying for a PhD program or something. You basically outlined your entire business thing and you go, okay, we'll let you walk away with 90% of it if you give us a couple billion dollars to buy servers and buy RAM and steal a bunch of people's information and do like a lost leader for a couple of years maybe. Industrial sabotage, it's a real thing.

Yeah, absolutely. Or like copy, copy like a project that's open source and be like a vendor for like open source like software or something. That's a model that they do a lot of where they just copy something else and they use AI to do it. And they can just hire one or two programmers to do what like 10,000 open source contributors like random people from like many other companies and like do it for free have done over like decades. right? Yeah. So they do that and they get a huge return off of it. And of course, like you have like behemots like Reddit that really pay dividends because I don't know if you know, right? Like Reddit, it's like the number two, number one site that people go on on the internet, like the ranking. Certainly for social media. It's in the top five for a bunch of stuff, right?

they famously sold their comments and the text within like all of Reddit to train AI companies. So like all that you know about like chat GPT is not only trained on like millions of stolen books, like trillions of dollars worth of stolen work. It's also trained on like you and I's like old Reddit posts from when we were like 13 and forgot to do the account. I hope. I hope I don't, I'm not pro AI at all, but I hope in the very least that AI has read all of my comments that I have left on the Vanderpump Rules Reddit channel. If you're looking for someone to blame about like your dad's going crazy over AI, it thinks that AI is a god and it's going to break out soon and like to kill the family, whatever. Blame Jacques, okay? You heard it here. First, yes, they were influenced by Jacques's Reddit posts. Let me just say something really quickly. If you have anything that you don't. know where to point the blame to this week you can go ahead and point that target at the center

of my forehead yes because i say you know what this week jacques taken the blame for the people yes yes yes for the people like tom style this one's for the women and the people this one's yes big up big up big theme here every episode i'm doing something for the women one thing that was really like sticking out to me and like again like much like clavicular you see gay culture kind of percolating into other aspects of pop culture, social media, and politics in this way that it does just feel extremely gay and sinister. Well, why are you caring about a man? Why are you as a man?

You know what I mean? Well, I mean, even just like the aesthetics of like cliqu- Sorry, shock and hessa. Like the aesthetics of a clavicular, like the looks maxing, the boxing, the body. body dysmorphia, all of that. There was one guy who literally got, one looks maxer who literally got his wig snatched off of his head.

That is drag race. They're snatching each other's wigs off. It's like actually insane and so overt. A lot of it is also like so obviously set up. Like, sorry, have you watched Nirvana the band The Show? Yes.

Yes. Everyone won't shut the fuck. I love this show. It's so fun. It seemed really good. Max sent it to me. The last episode of season one when they're in the Chinese restaurant and Matt is like expertly setting up the dinner with Andre. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to say it.

Don't spoil it for me, y'all. But, but. I've been wanting to see the show. For this episode, right? Like Matt, like, Matt, like, Matt finds out that Jay, his partner doesn't want to be friends with them anymore. So, like, he sets up like this elaborate trick, like, during a Canada Day lunch at a Chinese buffet. He sets up a bunch of like coincidences and like, you know, like he goes out to get like Chinese like fortune cookies like printed with like a fake.

It looks like an English, ha ha, very funny like misprint. But when you put them together, like it's the numbers from lost. It's like there's nothing more important than friendship or something. Yeah. At the very end of the day, friend, ship is the greatest thing in the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, like, it changes the,

Matt changes the name of fried rice to friend rice and goes, oh, ha ha, look at that, it's friend rice, isn't that crazy? Pays another patron to like break up with his girlfriend or like stages. So someone takes pictures of someone of another patron, goes back, runs back home, like whatever, like all that shit. Like some Looney Tunes bananas bonkers bullshit is basically the operating logic for all of these other streams of like looks, maxers and moggers and bullshit

like that, where it's all made up, it's all manufactured. Yeah, it's like wrestling. It's like pro wrestling. It's wrestling. It's, it's publicity stunts, like top to bottom. Well, wrestling is real and I'm not going to get into this, but it's a sport. The big takeaway I had. I didn't say anything about wrestling. Article, like, in general, is that gay men are very politically potent demographic. Yeah. Yeah.

For various reasons, because of the strife you grow up. with because you're marginalized and yet are a gay man and can benefit from patriarchal standards, whatever it may be. But now I feel like gay men are advancing a very strong force of like social alienation in the world mediated to the phone and all of this stuff. And gay men are at once the architects of this like new world and are yet the test case for how far you can push it. Yeah. Insofar as like sniffies, think about Sniffies, Grindr is the versus dating app. I mean, there are insights that gay men have into culture and very good at exploiting cracks in certain psychological.

Funny you mentioned, by the way, sorry, funny you mentioned Sniffies and Grindr, those are number one and number two strike busters in tech, actually. Like Sniffies, Grindr in particular, is heinous when it comes to collective bargaining. Really? And a year or two ago, and I've said this before, I'll say it again. And maybe now that the monetization for it is so like... The charging bitch is a cool. $350 a month, which is holy. It's... 500. I saw 500.

It's crazy. Mine are a prostitute. Exactly. Buy some pussy, man. Like, what the fuck? What's the difference between that and Grindr? Sorry, $500 for what? Knocking under the stall is free.

So let me explain this. This is what I'm talking about. This is so fucking depressing that this is the world we live in. No, but no, but it's game out of the architect behind all of this stuff. Absolutely. Of course, it's a gap. But also, can I just say something really quickly? I heard that I was kind of watching a video about the 500 tier of Grindr thing.

So in this version of Grindr... Can I write it off on my taxes? This version of Grindr, your preferences are so overstated that you don't even have to match up with people. Grindr is matching people up with you. and there's a creation as well. Yeah. Kill yourself faggots. Yeah.

Sorry. If you just trust me. If you can't just bother to go through the free dating app and look for people, it's just like Raya. Go to a fucking bar. I'm sorry. All this, all this,

all this just to text someone, hey, what's up? Literally. And not even at late. Hey. Hey. Two weeks later,

hey. Jacques, you want a riot invite? no no no no no no no no no no he said yes I forgot he had a girlfriend because of a crumable no just the idea of just the idea of being on Raya seems powerful but I don't need it I deleted all of my dating apps

which which because I've been banned from all which was ended up only being Facebook dating and that was pretty easy to delete I got banned from Raya in 2021 for something I did, which I won't share here. But you, I mean, there's still one where you could take down, Jock. Oh, I remember. I remember what it was. You think I would tell you?

Max, before, before, because I do have to, you guys can keep going. But I, my brother is making a beautiful, uh, penile vodka. Oh, love. I, I love a little peniola penis. Peerrearie. Penis ala vodka. having shots of vodka and suck and cock. Yeah, talk about some bad bunny.

Get me with a good time. But Max, you had some related California politics type of? I do actually. And one second, my co-host just arrived. He's just outside the door. If I can let him in, he could also join for this. Yes. Yes.

Okay, give me just a second. I'll set it up. Very, very convenient. Jock, I'm going to need you to freak the fuck out on this. I'm kidding. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, what ugly little fat bitch is you about to bring me? Oh, he's so nice. He's so, so nice. I'm just having a, you just encourage me to be me?

What was it, Joe? Hey, watch. It's too late. What happens if I encourage you not to be me? Because that never works. Nothing's gonna work, bitch. I have his knife out of everyone. Jacques has his knife. He's swinging that thing around. All right, Jack, get ready to be the nicest you've ever been in your

fucking life. Are you ready? You got to leave this part in also. Oh, hello. Hi. Oh my God. Hello. Hello. Welcome. You're Max's friend. Oh, my God. He can't hear you. He doesn't know. I told Jock to be nine. Oh, that's nice.

Oh my God. I'm so excited to be Max. Swing that across. All right. It is working. It is working. Hello. Hey, guys. And he'll track. is separate for editors benefit. And what, can you tell us the truth and nothing but the truth so you swear to this podcast? Yes.

Okay, so what's your name? Dave Kempa. Oh, it's nice to meet you. Thank you for joining us today. Good to meet you, too, Jacques. I'm so nervous. Why am I nervous? He's really struggling not to be mean to you right now, Dave.

Because Jacques is doing a very nerve-inducing way of talking to someone, I think. What are you guys going to ask me? Is this person going to snap? Five seconds. There's nothing to be nervous about. You know, it's just like a normal podcast episode. Okay.

I think we're just shitting on Pelosi today. Yes, yes. We are, we are shitting on both Pelosi's today. Oh, both. Both.

Some of our faves. Some of our faves. Yes. Okay. Yes. I didn't want to talk about this. Max and Dave, maybe you should plug your podcast.

Yes. Yes. Dave, may I? Yes. Okay. We run. We run.

We run. Yes, it's called The Drain. Ladies and gentlemen, it's called The Drain. It's a California politics podcast. We are kind of keeping a pulse of, I was thinking to myself today, like, what is it actually about? You know what I mean? It's kind of about how... Make my day.

Mayor of Carmel. Yes, yes. Current. Current. And his balls are still stuck in that toilet. And he's still talking to that chair. And I still, yeah, anyway, we talk about like the weird kind of full. boybles in California and their ripples that, you know, go out throughout the nation that

ultimately originate here in California. Right. And like one of those will be, is poised to be our current governor, Gavin Newsom. We've been talking to, or about him, I guess to him is more aspirational than not. He's listening. He's listening. Yeah. His team definitely is. We've been talking to him for the past like year and a half about how much he's fucked up with almost absolutely everything. And it's, it's looking like in the run for governor, it's, which is heating up as we speak. Yeah, it's a good time for us to have a show like this. Yeah. Yeah. We, we just looked at, we just had the California Democratic State Convention. It's, they're there to decide and kind of to, uh, anoint the next person. Like,

for example, we have, we have a few incumbents who are, uh, leaving us, like, uh, unfortunately. at least some you know by their own choosing like um like nancy Pelosi others unfortunately yeah rip she died again no no no well she will soon but uh others died in office like douglam alpha actual rip actual well and piss in piss i have no gripes with nancy pelosi but we can all i have no gripes nancy pelosi wow i don't know i don't know half of the things she I don't study her. I'm not a political advocate. Well, the other guy.

If he ever exists, you don't have a great... Oh, cheers. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We can all agree, regardless of how we feel about her, it would be incredibly funny to see a full grand piano fall from the 50th story of a building and squish her in one little block.

Off the transamerica tower perhaps. I'd not be funny for anyone. Yes. Maybe off the transamerica tower, huh? Huh? Uh, period. Period.

Period. Is she, it's Nancy Pelosi not, uh, Yes, she is trans. Yes.

You heard it here first. Is she, um, is she against trans people? No. Gavin Newsom is. Gavin Newsom has been getting a little anti-trade. Not socially,

but fiscally, yes. She's fiscally anti-trans. Yeah. Fiscally anti-trans. Socially. Socially, very pro.

She goes to all the, like, trans, like, readings at the local library. She just wants to tax the trans community. Exactly. Yeah. I think she should be forced to serve as a cunt.

Until she dies. I do totally, I mean, she had to quit because her clit was so long, it wrapped around one of her AIDS throats and choked them to death. That's why. She has AIDS? Oh, yeah, Stephen. No, I'm just kidding. Every politician does, yeah. No, no, no.

That's her successor. No, can we break that here? No. We'll break it on seeking derangements. Yes, Scott Weiner does have. You heard it first. Nancy Pelosi does not have HIV. She has AIDS. And it's going to be bad.

That's exactly it. That's exactly it. No. So we just had the California State Democratic Convention. Like, in most years, this is kind of like where the next governor of California is crowned. But this year is kind of special. We're having like a 2016

like national democratic convention type a year in California. We have like everybody and their uncle is running for governor. Yes. You've got Eric Swalwell, of course. Katie Porter. Katie Porter. Betty Yee, who's like the state controller or whatever?

She's not looking good. It's crazy. Some lady whose husband is like the chief rabbi at like the number one like reform synagogue in L.A. is number two. I really don't want to cast any aspersions and even like calling out this coincidence, this, this totally. Total coincidence is going to look suspicious. But no, it is funny. It is funny. There's a couple of Republicans on the top of the polls right now, too.

But, like, they're not going to get anywhere. The whole conceit of our show is... Well, it's only because there's only two Republicans. Exactly that. And there's, like, 87 Democrats running for it. And the idea of our show is, you know, California is a liberal hegemony. And so we aren't really talking about, like, red versus blue on it. We're talking about, you know, these.

Democrats ruled everything through kind of a socialist perspective. Exactly. Can I make a critique? Oh, yes. I think this sounds like a- Open the struggle session. Pretty good podcast and all. However, I was under the impression this was going to be about like plumbing and plumbers and like-

Well, it's funny. You see California is California's number one, number one resource is water, water. And it is in fact the drain through. which a lot of America's water west of the Mississippi drains into. I don't know if you know Jacques about the Mississippi River. But let's not even talk about the Mississippi because we're going to talk about the only other major water catchment basin that is not the Mississippi. We're talking about the Great Basin, which drains into the Colorado and which drains not

into the Sea of Cortez, the armpit between Bahia, Sour and Sinaloa in Mexico. They're used to drain. The world's aquarium. The world's aquarium. No. Jacques Cousteau called it. It does not drain there no longer. It drains into the inland empire in California.

And so does all the water that falls on the Sierra Nevada, on the coastal ranges. It all drains into California. It is all used by, you know, the 40, almost 40 million people that live here. It's almost crazy to, like, think about. Water, however, is essential, and without it, we are fucked. And much like water flows through the center of California. Power flows through the center of California in Sacramento, not. Not LA, not San Francisco, not San Jose either.

It's an environmental podcast. You can tell Max was very passionate about this title for the podcast. Yeah, I guess we came up with the name. Yeah. This is like how a dad defends like an overly ethnic name. Right. And I know white male or something, whatever, ethnic marriage. Right.

We get a lot of people being like, because. It is a fucking, yes. It runs through the family, actually. My daddy, my great grandfather was called Eldrano. and if you won't respect her name, yes, because the podcast is female. If you don't respect her name, we'll have fisticuffs between us. I will fucking lay the law down. Leave it to a gay man to name up to be like, this is a female podcast and it's called

the drain. The way my comb is flowing through it. That's right. They just killed some giant cartel leader and his name was like El Minchot or His name was El Minchot yet. What does that mean? Guess, guess, guess. Guess what it means, John.

Miniature? I'll have to, yeah. El Minature. Mr. Mincher. He's very small. Jacques's guess is probably better than mine. El Mentioner. I don't know what El Mentioner means.

No fucking clue. His real name is Nemicio. So, that's what it is. Nemicio. It's a diminutive of his first name. The name is Miguel Sorvante. Shut up. Savedra.

Okay. Anyway, we had a hell of a time watching the convention, mostly because no one ended up being nominated. So like the California State Democratic Convention. So it was a waste of time. It kind of is because we had so many candidates coming in. Like Eric's Well, Katie Porter, Betty Yee.

Which one's the best one and which one's the worst one? Javier Becerra is probably like, the least offensive, but they all suck. Like, everybody is. Every politician's a bad politician. The only one that's for the billionaire's tax, which is kind of a good determinant of

who you do and don't want to support in various races this year, is the billionaire on the docket. Ben, you know this guy. Yeah. Does he? I don't know. You sparred with him in Iowa. Yes. This was a huge

theme in 2016. Tom Steyer? Yes. Oh, he's a fucking loser. I didn't have to fight with him. Tom Steyer. He fucking lost on his own. Yeah, no, no, no, he tripped and fell. I do remember him. He was incredibly weird. I'm seeing him in your life. Oh, I remember him too. Zero charisma.

Real freak. He looks like Bob Catter from Australia. He looks like this Australian guy who's like very, very fucked up looking and craggy and old and strangely tan for a white guy. And just like so whiny, you know. Yeah, yeah, and gravelly voice. He was like RFCK before RFK Jr. It really was. Skinny RFK.

Yeah, skinny. Okay. Normal diet. RFK. Perfect interview. RFK interviews FCA. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Wake it up. I'm absolutely there for that. I'm seated. I'm moderated Jacques. Let's just only get people with the same amount of letters in their name to interview people. How's this for a concept for an interview show? There's an interviewer.

who's dressed like the groom at a wedding and an interviewee who's dressed like the bride. And there's the moderator who's the priest and it's an actual priest. Okay. Love the love. This was a dynamic. It's called do you?

It's called do you? It'll surprise you to know, Hessa, this used to be a show on public access television in San Francisco in the late 70s. Unfortunately, the priest in question, was outed for being for having teenage friends is the euphemism

for the time. Oh my God. This guy loves talking about the priests molesting them. Yeah, I do love talking about it, Josh. Thank you. Fuck you, Max.

She was a problem. Oh, God, Zooks, this guy can't stop talking about the abuse. I do think you probably wrap it up there. Has it has some peniola penis to get to. Yeah, I have a girl. Rock has a girlfriend to get two penile. She's at the Airbnb.

She won't even stay here. That's a great Jesus Christ. That's dark side. You sound like Zoe Lofman's kid. No, I mean, she came and took a nap with me during the day so we could watch some TV. That's sweet. That's nice. Then she fucked off back to her Airbnb.

No, I mean, I went back with her. I went with her to the Airbnb. I mean, I love the Airbnb. It's a nice old fucking little place. Very manly of you, brother. Very manly. of you. I saw Airbnb in this article too. That was kind of like a thing. Kind of a full circle moment. Right. Yeah. Wow. By the way, final, final thing before I leave,

that article was way too long and it had way too many very generic quotes. I'm going to read a outquote. Hesse, if you need to leave, you can disembark and we will we're getting back into the article, Hesse. Oh my God. Do you have any thoughts? Can we keep you for a minute? As a straight guy, hang on, hang on. As a straight fella. Excuse me, a straight man needs to speak.

A straight man needs to speak. As a straight, as a resident straight man, how do you feel about that already? Do you feel that it's just like, I don't know, like any other regular in-group that you would find anywhere else? That was my take on it. You could swap out Catholics and end up with the same article. Right. Well, Catholics are gay. First of all, that is a gay cabal.

Okay, but like any other euphemism, yes. I just, okay, the full article is just like, oh, wow, gay people are being rich and annoying again. Wow, it's such an interesting new concept. But I just like this quote, amid the deflections and whispers through, there seems to be an unmistakable truth. Gay men are rising. So stupid. True. And then also, I just thought this was an interesting tidbit.

The only interesting thing I found from this article. And in the U.S., gay men are on average. better educated and wealthier than the general population. Like la-di-da, we know you're all. We're certainly doing a lot to dispel the stereotypes here, you're all. One of the key things, this final quote, one of the key things to realize is that gays are different than straights in many different ways.

You know, I'm learning that with Max as my co-host. Oh, I bet. Very different. Yes. I would just don't, don't, hey, Dave, let me give you a little piece of advice. If he offers you a drink, don't take it. Oh, man. It's, it's, we're a little late for the.

that. We've taken so many drinks from him. We've been roofing each other so hard. Just nonstop. You wake up on the floor with a sore throat. Oh. Jacques, we'll have you on for our plumbing episode. Yes.

Yes. We still have to organize that. We need to put the Google Doc together. He's taking massive shit. So he's a perfect person for the plumbing. I know a thing or two about plumbing. Lay in pipe, right? Yeah.

One time, last thing. Yes. Yes. One Christmas, I broke my sister's toilet and we all as family took turns trying to unclog it and fix it, but it would not happen. And we had to get a snake. Dude, save this for our episode, brother. It's a literal snake like in the Flintstones, but.

Me too, don't get up yet. Snake y'all, chalk, chock, walk. Go to poo snake's diner and get a poo snake from there. Oh, my God. I'll get two. All right. Right. Why don't we get three?

Bye, everyone. Don't just get one. Get poo. Bye, y'all. everyone. Bye.