Seeking Derangements - SD 529 - Judging Women's Bodies w/ Marley Gotterer

Episode Date: September 9, 2026

Hello Seekers! Ben here, today Marley joins us to discuss being raised jewish and Hindu, nominative determinism and judging women. See Marley next Tuesday at Union Hall

We got our sure microphone. Yes, honey. Hello, Marley. You are listening to Seeking arrangements. Marley Goddor is here with us. Jock is on her way. Hessa is here too. Hello, Marley. Hello, Hessa. Hi. Hello, darling. Wow. It's amazing to be. You actually, where the fuck are you, Ben? Yeah, it looks beautiful. You're in a beautiful location. beautiful. The most beautiful location you've been in a while, say? Yeah. You want to know why? Well, this is a free episode.

It's the interior motive set. This is my new studio for interior motives. No, this is my friend Biju's apartment. She is a fabulous woman who I'm friends with from New Orleans. This is her apartment in New York City. And guess what she left? Bye, dance! Wait, what are they? Or Adderall. It just has anphetamine on it, which is random. Period.

That's what mine says on it. Really? Yeah, yeah. I think it's Adderall. Yeah, that's Adderall then. Sorry to Bejou. But no, she has a fabulous beautiful apartment. Please to be you.

Yeah, please to be... Me later. Me later after a couple. And I haven't done any yet. They're the blue ones. Are the blue Adderall? That's Adderall. I like the pink ones.

Pink 20 immediate release. The blue ones, I think, are 10 immediate release. My blue ones are five. Oh, period. Oh, okay. I'm dealing with fives. The 20s are so good. I have 30 extended release.

Girl, what? Yeah. That's crazy. Talk about girl what. Welcome to WorkDiva. Hello, Joach. Hey, welcome to work diva to yourself. And how do you do, Miley?

How do you do? I'm so happy that you served in the war and you have come even through your PTSD. I know the Holocaust would. really, you know, you're doing, but you know more than anyone how hard it was for me. I was there. I was present. You were there. You were the one who changed me, changed my size. Yeah. We were just talking about Adderall and like, let me just say that two milligrams will set me off for about four hours. I can't take, I was prescribed 30 milligrams from first to eighth grade. Now that I, now if I take a crumb of a five milligram. I'm talking Marley, a sliver of a piece of a rock. I am like,

didda doba doba do bitita. Let me go out every day and have fun. Wait, should I do one? No, of course. Chew it. You're going to be a zombie. No, because they're your friends. That's like, that's rat, ratty behavior to like go to your own woman. Oh, no, she doesn't care. She doesn't care. Then take one. That's fine. I mean, it is late. She knows she should have hidden those. It's so fun to be in a fully actualized. female's apartment. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's true. It's like you can see her whole routine. There's so many nice notes on the fridge from people who stayed here. Like her was trying on her robes. I mean, the Peloton. Oh, period. The Palo. The Pelper.

You know, you know she's on the leaderboards, darling. She's a trainer. Yes. Ben's been putting those robes on at Buffalo billing around that apartment. What did you say? Period. Yeah. Jackson said you've been doing the Buffalo build and.

You've been silenced of the land. I'm sorry. Okay. So Marley, how are you today? I feel I'm like tired. Basically I was location scouting because I'm shooting a pilot. Oh, period. About transgender sports, if you could believe it.

Comedy. Of course. Well, you're the tennis queen. Like lady balos. Literally. More like AirBud. Heated rivalry moveover. He did rivalry X AirBud.

That's what I'm going for. Have you, isn't the U.S. Open going on right now? Yeah, they haven't invited me. I'm not really brand safe. Brands aren't really inviting me. I, last year I DM'd like Grey Goose, Lexus, like, all the brands that were sponsoring, and I didn't get any reply. It's like $10. Do you think it's because you're transgender?

Can you let the transgender talk for a second? I'm so sorry. No, excuse me, Ben. Excuse me, Ben. Shut down. Isn't it, like, really cheap to see, like, the down the ladder matches, kind of the... I don't care about those, though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like, I want to see the divas or I want to see the guys with big butts that, like, fly around. You want to be court side. Yeah. Is it a court? Yeah. It's the original court. Would you say tennis is the original court? Like before like the men and wigs and London vibes

I would Yeah I feel like but like clay it was probably clay Or grass Well the ancient Maya and Aztec had a game on a court like that Where they would hit the ball off their hip Have you ever seen them play that game? Yes Like the road to El Dorado

It looks so fun It looks so damn fun Marley I could really see you getting I want to, you know what the game I want to play is? It's like the, don't talk about my body. I was just saying. Ben only uses me for my body. It's like, I'm really crazy.

Don't eat it. Oh, you stupid. Ben is obsessed. That's why I don't use my camera anymore. Right, right. We'll just comment on my body and we'll notice things about it. We'll say, I can tell your nipples are hard. And I'll be like, what?

What do you tell me you? Literally. It's like, if we did an episode that like there was a top cam and a bottom cam, like, you just be seeing. and Ben yanking it the whole time. Hands up. Keep her hands up the whole episode. Oh, Jock, what's on your hand?

Is that cum? Oh. No. The way he checked. The way he had to check. Keep dust. No. He was in your head.

Did I forget this one? I forgot to wipe. No. Jock, how was the bathroom? Nice. You were texting in the bathroom. It was difficult for you. Well, I'm not going to get up from shitting to send you an email.

Does it make sense? Do you have like a phone that can't do email or like you have to do like large attachments that can only happen on your computer? The latter and also I am not emailing and shitting. I just want that. That's fair. Boundary. I always think of that tweet that's like the last, the last human experience, the last true human

experience left in our world is actually no longer shitting because you have to like work on your phone while you're shitting or like watch reels while you're shitting. It's only vomiting. that's left because you can't be scrolling while you're vomiting. I used to be like I had a lot of phobias and anxieties as a kid

and one of them was like I couldn't like if there was like magazines in the bathroom like I couldn't see a person's face while I was shitting like it would have to like have it out of the room like so like I couldn't have somebody watching me. Interesting

I know. Was this it where is a particularly scarring issue of Playboy or something? Yeah, yeah. Do you remember like a specific magazine cover with a celebrity, like a People magazine with like... I think it was either people or golf digest or something like that. Golf Digest usually makes

it go back up. Like Tiger Woods like staring. Rory Mathelroy. Yeah, I don't know what it was. Who do you think was on the cover of people? What year would this have been? If you're a young Marley, what year? Was it like... Ellen's lesbian

cover? If it was... If it was Ellen, it would be sliding right on out. I'd be loose as top. If it was lesbian Ellen. If it's lesbian Ellen. Also, Ben, how old do you think Marley is?

That was like 1992 or something when she was on the cover of people. Marley's 27. No, I'm not. Do you're 29? You're 30? Well, one of those was correct. You're 29. Yeah.

I knew you weren't 30 quite yet. But people, I feel like people have met me at 27, so all of my friends still think I'm 27. It's like we're at the age where people, yet, they're just like stunted. But I know, I wonder if I'm going to be like the type of person that like won't want to tell people my age. You know, it's like you never ask a woman her age. Yeah.

You kind of are ageless, though. I mean, I'm timeless. For sure. Timeless. She's like a diamond in the desert. They need to conceal it. Yeah. Personally.

Yep. 42. He's a 42-year-old game host and he's proud. Well, you know what? I used to play. I used to be a game host on the toilet while the magazines or phones or whatever were away. I would rip toilet paper and play, like make them play a game show. It's usually like Survivor. So it would have strips of toilet paper playing the games against each other. What kind of crazy shits were you taken, girl, that you had time to do an episode of Survivor? Jew shits, big Jew shit. Period.

Leaky, leaky Jew shit. Period. Oskanazi? Ocascanazi, yeah. What do you think that means? Kamikaze. She's a Kamikaze Jew. What's a type of Jew, but don't

Oskanazi type Jews have like stomach problems a lot? Isn't that like a real comment? I'm not even trying to sound like. You know, I think, I don't want to do the work. I think you should do the work with Chachy-B-T later. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you definitely Google it.

No, it's true. I do have dietary restrictions, and I was, Ben and I are famously going to be getting food later, and I was going to say that in the chat, but I'm trying to be. Wait, what are your dietary restrictions? I don't want to talk about it to free episodes. Is this why you said, you sound like the craziest, like, oh, God. Let's just go to a bar. No, I'll just, I'll eat fucking fries.

I'll eat fucking french fries and I'll just fucking dip them in barbecue sauce and ketchup and eat fucking french fries. I always feel so bad for those people. I mean, there's two types of, you know, food allergy havers. There's the people who are ashamed of it and I feel bad for that. And then there are the people about it who are like Nazis about it. But I feel particularly bad for someone who is so afflicted with the like food allergies that they have to present the card to the waiter, you know?

Yeah, yeah. I feel so bad for them when they do it nicely because I'm like, oh, this sucks. This fucking blows. That's, uh, Masha has that for, uh, like, she has, like, real celiac. Like, so she's like, she's like, they're like, there are like, literally two restaurants in Manhattan that she can eat at. No, totally. My sister's so annoying about the food allergies bullshit. Dairy, pine.

It's celiac, and there was one other. And I'm like, you're just making it up at this one. Well, it's called, I was one, sorry, I am a Nazi. That's why I kind of think I have that. So I kind of needed to say that. And then also, I will say it's just a hidden eating disorder. Mm. Period.

A bit celiac, quote unquote. Well, I think Masha really has it. I do know there are people who have fake food. Yeah, she looks like she has it. What does that mean? What do you think? I'm just kidding. It was a joke. I love Masha. I mean, sorry.

What? Body T. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, that's all I'm actually. It was a compliment. So it's like, this episode is commenting. It's called commenting on women's bodies. Yeah, women who are in here. I'm sorry. Women who are no longer with us. Yeah. Here's a comment for two women that are with us.

You two are just so beautiful. Keep doing what you're doing. Last night, last night I took an edible and at like, I couldn't sleep at all. And at like, 2 a.m. I was like, girl, the same thing happened to me with sleep. Yeah, I thought it would help me go to bed. Bejou has someone here. It sounds like I'm just doing all of her drugs. I'm not.

I did one edible. It's 10 rooms. And I was like, oh, it said indica on it. And it was so, like, the graphic design was so sleep. Yeah, that's a sleepy one. No. And I was like, oh, this will help me go to bed. And I was tossing and turning until 3 a.m.

No, being high as fucking bed, it's like, well, that's actually, that's, that's, that's, it gives your mind time to flourish in ways that you didn't know were possible. I was just like spiraling. I got, so like at 2 a.m. I walked to McDonald's and I, and I, that's. got a filet of fish, a medium filet fish combo with a water. I know which McDonald's he probably went to also. That's a dark McDonald's. I thought they had filial fish. It's kind of been gentrified at McDonald's.

No, no, they had it. They had it. The Delanceyazics McDonald's? Yeah, yeah. It might have been like midnight. It might have been a little before midnight. But the, yeah, Ben, it's pretty gentrified now that McDonald's. That is shocking to me.

I know. It's so sad. When I used to live, I mean, I never was like going to McDonald's that much, but every, like super late I would go there and sometimes I'd just walk past it, like walking home from the bar at 4 am. And it would always just be like just a shit show in there. They used to have a security guard for a while. Yes.

Yeah. And like the window, you can just see the milkshake residue that someone threw on the glass window. The windows were like disgusting. Wait, which are you all talking about. D'Aard's. Yeah. That's not close to the Myrtle Broadway one. Oh, no.

You know one place in New York City and it's rural. Well, no, I just want to say the McDonald's right there at the Myrtle Broadway, that one is fucking crazy. I watched, there was a door that just opened normal. There's not a McDonald's there. Are you talking about? What do you? It's the Taco Bell, the Taco Bell. It's the famous Duncan Checkers and I believe Taco Bell, or probably, or

Popeyes. Or Popeyes, yeah. Yeah. No, there's a McDonald's down there too that has double doors. Like in the neighborhood. Anyway, yes. And they have like a window where they were like, they locked the lobby and they serve all the to-go orders to or like delivery orders

out of the window. And this guy was like super pissy. He didn't get his fries. He kicked down the glass doors that were locked. Oh, good for him. The door. I'm watching. We're all watching this happen going and he walks back there into the Donaldson grabs the damn fries and

comes back out and then the cops pull up and we're like, oh, this is just too much for a fucking fries? Period. You would do that. Yeah, I would. I'd kill. Marley, are there any fast food places that you've never eaten at? Like, well-known ones? I don't think I've had checkers.

It's terrible. I don't have either. I think I on tour, like I went to the south, so I think I it's not fast food, but I went to a bucky, for the first time. Oh, period. And I've never even heard of Buckees.

Oh, wait, no, it's, I have. It's like the grossness. This is a big gas station that people flip out for. I mean, the gas is like a dollar. Oh, period. So it is pretty awesome. Is there like a food, a known food that you, like Ringo Starr says he's never tried pizza in his entire life?

Do you, like, is there a food you've never tried? Yeah, is there a known food you've never tried? I'm in my, I'm entirely. Rose mood. Asking terrible questions. No, I like these questions. Well, there was, so I had a dietary restrictions growing up, and so there was a lot of foods I didn't try. And then I, let's just say, I got into a poly relationship and started eating dairy for the first time.

So, um, I was, I learned about Jack in the Box. I learned about, I just was experiencing a lot of foods for the first time. So I'm like, trying to think, like, now, it's like I've never had. I don't think I've had caviar. Oh, it's not that great. Yeah, if you've had like salty stuff? Yeah, I actually love caviar.

I can't front. Wait, were you, are you actually raised Jewish and Hindu? Um, basically, uh, would you say Jindu or?

I would say Jindu. Um, is the correct biological term. Well, both my parents are Jewish. My, um, mom's dad.

was very like anti-religion. Congratulated me when I dropped out of Hebrew school in, you know, like middle, high school, whatever. And he was, you know, fluent in Yiddish. I didn't see any money from his death because he gave it all to the Yiddish library. And then he was like anarchist, an awesome guy with one eye.

An awesome guy with one eye. He lost the eye or just didn't have it in the first place? He, I think it was melanoma. as a kid. He lost it. And so it was just like kind of like a white thing inside and he would like always like open it up. He had like an eye patch era which was really cool. That'd be so cool. There's nothing.

He opened it up the show people or. I want to be one of those old guys with some kind of injury that. Necessitates an accessory because you know I already look so evil. If I had like a scar on my face. Or burned hands. So you need like leather gloves. Yeah. I need to let their walls.

Honey, you're going to have to change your career path from off of the safety of a mic and a chair. You're going to have to work at a scrapyard or something. Or just piss someone off enough that they do an acid attack on you. Yeah, I do think it could. It still happened to me. Oh, yeah, you could do like a

kind of Channel 5 investigative piece at like Burning Man or something. And you could have like somebody tripping. Yeah, flip out. out at you can we get back to ben uh completely changing his life and becoming a scrap yard junkyard worker i really like that fantasy i'd be very good at it i think honestly ben i think you're doing so good with interior motives but maybe just switch to the the scrap yard right i do love physical labor it makes you feel there's a sense of fulfillment you get immediately you look good when you're dirty

yeah and you'd be dirty there all the time so thank you i mean i don't see what do you think of us now that you like blown up so much and like we're just so far below you don't you don't ask that question here don't ask the question here marl yeah i'm only on the podcast here once yeah let's let marley ask the question i'm like unless you're gonna ask me questions then i'm not the one that has an issue yeah i don't have an issue yeah it's true i don't have an issue things are coming together now for marley marley don't don't you don't you make that yeah yeah yeah i know the issue i know the issue i know the issue you, well, every time I'm on here, it is kind of like, I kind of orna y'all, and I'm, you know, just, you do a lot of, yeah, analysis.

Like, yeah, like emotional kind of labor. I'm like a couple's therapist. You're an emotional doula. Yeah, I dola. I dola. Dr. Jindu. Right. Dr. Jindu. Dr. Jindu. On try on mykaya, Jambah, Jambah. Let's get your plug in at the top of the show. You're here for one reason. We all know what that reason is. What are you up to? Well, actually, there's multiple reasons now, which you missed one of them. Your pilot. My pilot, which will be coming out at some point.

I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about that. What are you talking about? Invite you? Wait, what do you mean? What did I miss? You missed it because you took your headphones off. Oh, I'm so sorry. You broke your headphones on purpose and watched away.

You broke headphone microphone podcast agreement. Well, congratulations, Molly. That's major. Thank you, girl. Do you have a working title that you could tell us of this show, or is it still private? It's Dr. Jindu. It's Dr. Jindu. Right now it's called Advantage colon serving.

Oh, period. Advantage colon. Is it C-O-L-O-N? Yeah, because that's what I'm like, does it have to do with IBS as well? No, no. The punctuation, a colon. Right. Oh, right.

Just a girl who plays tennis with an upset tummy. I mean, it's not, that's not, not, not, not it. But we'll see. I mean, I'm like, I want to, I don't know how it works, but I'm like, I want a deadline article. Like, how do I get that? So I don't know, but maybe an agent. You got to die. You don't have an agent?

I have managers. So if you're an agent listening to this, I guess hop on. But unless I'm making a lot of money, I don't want more people on my team right now. Because, you know, I'll have them fight over for me, fight over me at some point. But yeah, but I have a show September 16th at Joe's Pub. It's my poetry slam. New York City, Manhattan, the public theater, off Broadway. Oh, my God.

September 16th, you said. September 16th. I think I'll be able to go. How's who we should go. Yeah, please. I'll put you both on the list. If I'm in New York. I want to pay.

I want to support the local. Yeah, yeah. You should put me on the list. Do I have to get a ticket? I like being on the list. If you're here, I'll put you on the list for sure. Well, no, put me on the list, but I'll still pay. I like the idea of Ben and Hessa getting on the list and Jacques has to be.

You don't live here. Well, let's just say it's a writing. You might have a chance to get up to the microphone if you have something in your heart. Okay. And Jacques is crying. Girl, Jack, you can have to. I'm like, what do you mean? Girl Jock.

Girl Jock is actually Girl Jock is probably, oh my God. Jock, if you had to deliver some poetry at this poetry slam, what would you say? Why don't we practice? Why don't you audition to be on Marley's show now? Yeah, come on. Well, American Idol this.

Okay, yeah, I'm Simon. I'll be Randy. No, I want to be. Two Randy. I'll be Paula. I'll be Paula. All right. Let's see what you have.

The lady. She plays a tanness. Her stomach hurts. She still wins. But she's got a lot on her heart. Dreadful. I'm going to be honest. You know, dog, I wasn't feeling it, dog.

I wasn't feeling it at all. It was gay. Whoa, Randy. Don't say that. No, Randy, I agree. That was pretty homosexual. And I got a deep v-neck. So I know.

What is really homosexual? Wait, did he ever come out as gay? He always been, like, in the closet. Randy? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, Simon. Simon. Howell? Simon has a child, I'm pretty sure, and is straight.

I think he likes, he likes putting, yeah, he's a straggot that likes pinning little boys against each other. Right. He always has such a gay, like Machiavellian spirit. Yeah, just so, so evil. Well, it's also like a, he's like a tastemaker. He's like a no, like a straight guy with a V-neck who knows what will work in culture. That is very gay. Right.

You're kind of Simon Cowell a little bit, Ben. He's way more Gordon Ramsey. Me? Me? Yes, you're way more Gordon Ramsey. You're like, bullocks, you think this is recorded? you think this is podcasting.

When you aren't recording, are you recording a local, by the way? I am recording a local. I did fucking up in the beginning. So you did. I did. I did. I did. I immediately started it.

I'll have some partial tracks. I love that. No, no, no, no. See, that's not me being Gordon. If that was me being Gore, if I'm Gordon, I would have started screaming. I'm just, I'm just disappointed father at this point. Hi.

And welcome to seeking arrangements. Today we're just, joined by Marley Grotter, who has a lot to tell us about her. Grodder! This is happening a lot because, you know, as we know, it's like, I'm becoming extremely famous and everybody wants a piece of me and nobody can say my last name and they'll ask or they won't ask. And then I feel like, okay, it makes me unique.

And then I'm like, should I change it to a stage name? But also, I feel like people do refer to me kind of singular name like Beyonce. say it's like Marley, your Ellen. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Myly Cyrus just dropped. Can I make a suggestion?

Right. Yeah. Wait, really? My suggestion to you is that you change your last name, but you add one more ER. So it's got a rurer. Yeah. Like or even two, double it. Double it.

Yeah. Yeah. The next person. Gotta rur-r-r-r-r-r. Could we please explore some of the possible last names that you would replace? Well, legally, because Marley's my legal middle name, I kind of wanted to make my name legally Marley Marley Godderer, so then I could go by stage name Marley, Marley.

I do like that. That's beautiful. I do think... The girl's so nice they named her twice, all they. You could say that. I feel that... I don't know. We need unique...

I think we need uniqueness, and there is something... I'm like, nobody does have my last name, but it is, you know, people say Grotter, or scared to say it. It's fanatic. Are people illiterate? It's gotterer. People are fucking illiterate.

Yeah. Truly. I mean, J'I can't say it. Louisiana didn't have the education that New York had. I'm sorry. They don't teach us how to say y'all's names. Well, actually, people say it French. So, speaking of Louisiana, they go Gaudier.

Gautier. Gautier. Gautier. Gautier. Gautier. So I'm thinking. I had some last name suggestions. I'm thinking some references to some old Hollywood stars, so hear me out.

Marley Monroe. I knew you were going to say that. I love it. Okay. Marley Dietrich. It's too close. Can we get a little bit more Jewish? I was going to say, you should actually Jew it up because Goderer doesn't sound that Jewish.

Well, it's German. Exactly. Which is, I don't understand. And it sounds almost like Icelandic. Like if it was a gutter IR at the end instead of ER, it would be pure Iceland. You know what I mean? You know, I have two last names. Marley, one of them is German as well.

But I don't use it. Wait, what is it? I don't say it's completely private. I can't say it. I'm saving that. I'm saving, I'll tell you when we get dinner. I'm saving that last name for when I need to, you know, kind of fake my death, fall off the map and reemerge as Ben. why. It's embarrassing.

It is embarrassing. It's not a name I like using. No, it's not, it's, Ben Mora to me is very simple and cleaning. Hitler. It's Hitler. It's Ben Mora Hitler. Benjamin Roberto Mora Hitler is my full legal name. I know

I didn't want to say that, but it is German. It is your Molly Hitler. Marley Hitler. Marley Hitler. Marley, her, her. Marley Reich

Godderer I barely know her I think you should be both sides so you be Marley Hitler Frank oh

daughter Frank is kind of you are the long lost daughter you are the long lost daughter of Adolf Hitler and Anne Frank okay they fucks

they were in love there was time travel involved it's a story that the history books well they were alive at the same time yeah can i can i like in the attic can i millennial white woman out on you guys right now and tell you

a secret from my deepest heart yes yes i was i was walking on um like near st marks the other day and i saw the like stomp theater and they their next show that they're doing in september is slam frank oh i want to i want to it so bad.

Wait, I'm going. Oh, really? With John Hill, he invited me to go see it. It looks so funny. I've heard some of the songs. It's so fucking funny. I mean, it's Hamilton and it's, I'm like, I'm not in it, but you know, I think about myself and all the time.

It's too on the nose to me. It's a funnier bit idea, but then like once you fully executed it, it kind of becomes a bit Reddit to me. Right, it's like Rattachooie, the musical. It's like, we're committing to this y'all. It's like, once you get the follow-through on a bit, that on its premise is like super funny and like once you see all this work we put into it, it kind of becomes like lay epic moment.

You know, it's like, it's like, it's a bit too far. I'm reserving judgment. I'm hopeful for it. Yeah, I'm hopeful too, but I am like my culture is not your costume as a Jewish rapper. Like, right. So like, come on, like, be honest. That is actually really true, Marley. You are.

It's also as a Jewish rapper. as the she-mail little dicky you're Matta Sassu's daughter? Yeah. Yeah. Matta Sashu. God bless you. God bless you. Can I get a pistachio? Matt, you stachio. Well, have you guys heard of the theory nomin of determinism?

You know, it's like your name can kind of, it's a theory. I think it was mostly like, it was like part, everyone who's like kind of like a soft. Jeannisist on Twitter was also talking about this, so it feels like right wing-goated to me, but it is just totally bunk and like stupid, but there's a theory. It's more like astrology, woo-y-woo, like. Okay. But I think there's a little bit of truth, honestly, because, like, you know, like, I think, I think, you know what?

I think to some people I know, and I'm like, yeah, your name fits you. You know what I mean? Well, yeah, it's a theory that your name kind of determines certain life path or personality characteristics or the way you know you're you're treated by others which is of course like a factor in your like social life but i don't i don't think it's like that determinative but then i think about it right but then i think about it in this way where it's like oh and like the old world your last name was like obler yeah wayne right that means you righted wanes all day i mean of course i'm like it makes me think of like eugenics and colonialism and ellis island where it's like right like

what actually is a name and do you have control over that? Do you know what Goderer means? It means God lover in German. Whoa. So you might find yourself being particularly religious then? Do you love God? Well, you didn't let me finish my Jinduism. Okay, period.

Narrative is in session. Dr. Jindu is in session. So, well, I've talked about this before on a podcast, and I, my mother is, was trained as an Ayurvedic integrative medicine major doctor and so I grew up with she had a mother, mother Maya

so I had a guru growing up where I would go chanting like I would go and chant and have like Mother Maya and that's how I first learned about pronouns because mother only you only referred to mother as mother and mother only referred to mother self as mother Whoa.

And so it was like, mother wants to go to the grocery store, mother wants to. And so, and then I would have these certain, like, spiritual Hindu practices that I would have. But then I also was, you know, in a very small town. So I think it was important for my parents to be culturally and religiously Jewish as well. so I did from a young age have both religious cultural practices involved in my life. That's really incredible, honestly. I mean, Mora means prostitute, literally, and Latina. I'm telling you, it's literally translate, actually.

The literal translation of Mora is Sucker of Cox for Money, but they just shorten it to horse. For some blow. Sucker for cox for a little, for a bump of blow. Yeah, that's Ben's favorite. I've talked about it before, but my last name means born of two races. Or it means either that or English and Dutch. No, it's Italian and Greek. Ooh.

Yeah, yeah. What's Italian last name? My, well, my, like, mom, well, I don't want to say my mom's maiden name here. That was almost a trick. Another, like, a fan name in my family line is, uh, Bolero, which just means, I'm pretty sure means, like, thief, which is fun. Y'all are good, you all have good boundaries for podcasts. I am like, I do not. Oh, you'll say anything. And it's coming to bite me in the, well, I'm trying not to.

Are you trying to imagine Hessa's half black, half Italian name? Because that's what I'm trying. What does that mean? Half Greek, you mean? well I thought she said she was half Italian she's by racial Greek and Italian I'm fully Italian I'm fully Italian don't play with her Sicilian and Roman Sicilian and Sicilian

and what's the other Capri Capri sounds so fab I know it is I know the Italian is awesome yes shock sorry I didn't mean to cut y'all off

I don't know what I was saying Mora means blueberry Oh Like your eyes Like your eyes Oh my god It's real It's real

What does Gonsolin mean I'm looking it up I don't even know honestly My middle name is Edward E-D O-U-A-R-D Edward Edward

Gonsolian has a name meaning It means battle or war Okay Now my determinism is real Dude it's real It's real It means battle or war Yes.

Whoa. Your name is John War. I'm John War, and I'm here to save the America from the war. Your name is John War. My name is Ben Barry. Hessa is Hessa byracial, and Marley is Marley Godlover.

Well, Marley actually, I think, is a meadow by a lake. So I'm meadow by the lake godlover. What does Benjamin mean? I guess we can trace these all the way back. Benjamin is Jewish. That's a Jewish, like, Ben, yeah, that's an Old Testament name for sure. Yeah, but those all meant something too, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Benjamin is a fight with God, I believe, or something. I'm a God lover and you're a Godfighter. I also want to go on wrestling. It means, it means sorrow of my son. Sorrow of my son, Barry. Oh, because Benjamin had a son, Isaac, and they were, yeah, thorough of muscle and blueberry.

So, Jacques. Jacques is a French masculine name that means subplanter or one who follows, holder of the heel. One who follows war. I mean, one who follows war. Wait, sorry. I'm stuck

on like naming like your child blueberry, like a beautiful non-binary child blueberry. Oh my God. You're not going to believe this. Hesse is the name. It means someone who is from Hesse, which is a place in Germany. And the name of that, the name of the, it's named after a tribe known as the Chati.

And that means, that comes from the proto-Germanic word meaning war. Well, they had like five words back then. It was like food, war, fire, water, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're all routing back. And like, like, cell killer or whatever. Yeah. Also, the more like probable, like the meaning of my last name.

King. Which, when didn't they? Oh, wow. It's war. It's pizza. It's hot. It's wet. Sex is like combat.

They had three words. War pizza. Yeah, yeah. War pizza, please. And thank you. Those are the four words. Aw. But like, I think the more likely meaning of my last name is like Dionysius, which makes more

sense determinatively because I love to party, you know. Exactly. Dio nice, like a box. The god of excess and wine. Wait, I'm going to look up my middle name. I wanted to get my full name now. Benjamin Faggett Mora. Can I talk about my dead name, my legal first name?

If you want to, girl. See, this is, okay, this is back to what I was saying. It's like, y'all having boundaries. And I'm like, the thing is it's like what? It's like, right. As people can look up this shit. Like, I'm sure if you really wanted to know, you could fucking find me.

Like, I have been a public facing, I've done like arts and whatever for a while. So I think you could find me if you wanted to. But also I have to be careful because, yeah, literally. I need to talk about my dead name.

Bob. Go ahead. No way. But all I want to say is that I do not trust these faggots and these gay guys to clip me correctly on the internet. I need to protect my words and myself, and I do not want to be rage baited. And I know that with eyes and on, you know, I'm just like, there's going to be a day where I'm never going to do a podcast again.

Let's just say that. Let's hope that's all of us. Can I ask you a question? Have you been, have people been like fucking with you or like rage baiting you? I'm kind of surprised. I will say that I this is a free episode but I'm just gonna talk my shit

I was on a podcast and they put out a clip yesterday and today and like it was like two parts of an hour and a half episode that I was like I don't want like I'm like why are they talking it like was me being called

they pulled the you're saying that they pulled they pulled it on savory moments they didn't seem that inflammatory no they were fine but it was like it was me calling Madonna mid, and it was me using the word baddie and like white gay guys calling me out and saying I don't like when white people say that word. And I'm like, they can't help when white gay guys will try to correct other white people over. Literally. But then it's like, well, I'm the trans woman on the show.

So it's like now all these now gay guys are coming after me being like, who is smart. Like, you know, you saying Madonna is like why you can be who you're going to like who you are. And like, fuck those guys. Is why I am who I am. Right. And let's be real, that last Madonna album was fucking mid as fuck terrible bullshit. I didn't listen to it. I thought it was good.

What I heard. Can I just, can I just say something right now? I just got a text message. The text message simply just said, are you still non-binary? Well, who is it from? True. Duh. I don't change.

Period. I was non-binary once. And I'll be it again. Fuck it. I miss I dogged that bullet. We ball. I've seen your gills. I know you're non-binary.

I saw the watch what happens. You're calling Marley non-binary? The episode after you refused to stop dating Hesse? I'm sorry. I was just joking because I was just trying to make a joke and it was inappropriate and I'm sorry, Marley. And I'm going to get a water. I'm going to excuse myself. All right.

Yeah, hydrating. No, it's okay. I think I'm like getting more and more okay with like being kind of non-binary. just because I'm like, and I've said this recently on podcast that then it's just, basically there is something inherently non-binary about being a woman. Yeah. I just do think that's true, cis, trans, whatever. But not men.

I mean, do you think that? Why would you say that, Penn? I don't think there's something non-binary about being a woman. well you're not a woman wake that up just that's just my opinion see I'm neutral on this issue right I'm pro woman

Marley is anti-woman and Hassea you're Sweden I'm Sweden you mean Switzerland yeah Switzerland yeah I said that Marley I'm Sweden I'm Sweden yeah I'm Sweden the house dolly and you're Sweden

I'm sweet enough as and I'm Iceland and that's blueberry is too, darling. I found out the meaning of my middle name. What is that? It means Bright fame.

Oh, period. Son of sorrow, bright fame, blueberry. Yeah. Period. I, okay,

this brings me back to wake that all the way the fuck up, and it brings me back to all those folks at home that's want, like our begging, our, like, please, I want to know

Marley's dead name. I'll give you the meaning and this will make sense to whatever eugenics, whatever this name astrology thing is. My name meant to laugh.

Oh, that's sweet. Yeah. Period. So. What, y'all know what that is? I don't know what that is. No, y'all aren't going to know,

but I think some of your I mean, y'all are probably clicking on your fucking keyboard at home, but you can't Google it. Hands up. Hands up. My hands off your dick. Hands up. Hands up. Hands up, but you can't Google it. It doesn't come up.

You did do it. I think if any Jews listen to this, which I think you've probably scared them all off at this point. We have Jewish listeners. We have Jewish listeners. Woody. I love and respect Jewish people. Whoopi.

Woody. I did say that your name should be your name should be Marley Goldberg or Godberg Godberg Godberg Godberg or just God Marley God Goldberg or just God Marley God strong

Yeah What if I just changed my name to God That would say I was I was thinking the other day About like what would be a fun middle name for me to have But I'm like Maybe I'll just go no middle name I'll free ball it you know Hessa

No middle name Weinstein has a free ball has a free ball has a free ball has a lady baller Danny lady baller yeah

Marley Airbud Marley is Marley and me Airbud Hitler Godder is Godder is Godder like a common last name

no there was I looked up one kind of recently and I found out that I was Nepo and this guy

Like, it's really not. Sometimes they have an H. I mean, it just, like, was a name that I'm pretty sure was changed at Ellis Island. So there was, there's some people that have an H, but there's one that has the exact same last name. And he wrote, um, I think it's, I want candy. Oh, I remember that. I, bow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Aaron Carter was one of the producers.

Aaron Carterer. Aaron Carterer. Aaron Carterer. Yeah. So I'm Nepo. And so. All the allegations that are going to come out are true. I'm sure Mora is a very common last name in the Latin world.

Is that the case? Because I've seen there are famous people named Mora. There aren't many. Not that I'm aware of. It's mostly Central Americans and Mexicans. There is, of course, the famous Mexican soccer coach named Mora, who was fired. So there's some nominative determinism happening there. Maybe publicly fired, Benjamin Moras.

There was a 17-year-old playing for the Mexican team in the World Cup named, I believe, Hector Mora. But beyond that, it's a very common name in Costa Rica and, like, Honduras in Nicaragua. But I don't think many of us are famous. And you can never be fired. Not anymore, no. Period. There are, like, no Denny's. The only Denny's are in Indonesia.

There's like 200 of them. And that's it. Really? Yeah, it's like a suit. I was like, wow, this is like, it's such an uncommon last name. Gonsland is a huge family name in the Acadiana's because they all been touching on each other for generations. Hey! Shut up.

Our family is beautiful. This is God. Those are mutually exclusive. I think your family is beautiful and perfect and also been touching on each other. And related. They're so beautiful. Their family is beautifully perfect. That's why they touch on each other because they're so beautiful.

I'd like to bring some, speaking of family, I'd like to bring some things to the table that I found out over the course of one dinner with my father. Okay. And it circles back to us talking about our parents believing about God. And first off, I just, my dad and me maybe have had dinner or lunch together just us, maybe like three or four times in my life. So when he asked me to go get dinner just him without his girlfriend, without my sisters, I said, wait, no Molly? And he's like, yeah.

And then I go, what about the girls like talking about my sisters? And he goes, I'm not their keeper. What do you want? So I go to dinner with him. And we're just like shooting the shit. He's been a really good mood. He's being really talkative, which is rare. And I was like, okay, so what have you been arrested for?

And he's like twice for suspect of terrorism. Once in Italy and once in Washington, D.C. So your father's the CIA. Work. Literally work. I was like, excuse me? What? And him and my mom got surrounded on bicycles by men in Uzi's in Italy.

Then in Washington, D.C., he gets an interrogation for 15 hours about having a bomb or something in D.C. Was he strapped? No, my dad didn't even own guns. Why was he questioned? Oh, sorry, strapped with a bomb I meant. Yeah. Oh, no, no. Oh, and he didn't have a...

Are there any theories? Are there any theories as to why all this happened to him? He just looks like a criminal. He has such a... He has a criminal look. He gets pulled over all the time. Did you ask him? I agree with you there, but did you ask him,

Dad, why did this happen? Yeah. Yeah, he just kind of was like, yeah, I don't know. And then he really quickly switched. to a story. Very, really good vote of confidence for him not being a terrorist. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

So I was like, and so then he goes, yeah, speaking of Houston, because I had talked about Houston early in the conversation. I actually think, sorry, a terrorist would have a good answer. Yeah, that's true. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's like, it's actually better. It's like, what? Like, no.

Like, you know, it's like a terrorist would have a plan. They'd have an alibi. it'd be funny if you if you jocke i imagine you're about to say speaking to houston i did that astro world thing That was like the terrorism of my day. Well, then my dad tries to like change the conversation and he starts to bring up how a long time ago my mom and my dad are divorced and they went with their friends to Houston to a dinner. And one of the people at the dinner went to the bathroom and they went around the table and each took off all of their underwear underneath the table and put it into one to go box and then wrapped it up with tape and mailed it to one of the people that was eating dinner at the table. So three weeks later, randomly one of them got like eight pairs of used underwear. Oh, they were touching on each other. That group was swinging.

That is some setting her behavior. Ben, I'm going to do that to you tonight at dinner. Take off your underwear? No, I'm going to take off your underwear. I don't wear underwear. I don't wear it. Good. I'll put some on and then I'll take them on.

So all of, it was just like a really exciting dinner. and then all of a sudden we hear this loud crash and we're like what what is that so we kind of stand up from like the outdoor restaurant area that we're at and we look over the fence and a giant oak tree just cracked and smashed on top of a car in front of this po-boy restaurant and me and my dad fully stood up left our old time behind yes and we were at park bistro and this whole giant tree crashes and i watch it we're all looking outside the power lines are on top of the car. The roof is smashed. The windshield was like crushed through. No. But then so then I ran inside old-time grocery and I go, hey, someone's car got crushed by a

gigantic tree guy. And it's like the sad job. We know you did it. We know you crashed another car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, literally like the saddest, ugliest guy comes out. He goes, wait, is it my car? And he runs out. He's like, no, no, no. And he goes, he goes, oh, no. What do I do in this situation? My dad is such a fucking asshole. At this point, my dad has walked across the street. And we're standing right next to the car and right next to the guy with his hand on his head. My dad does not believe in God.

He starts going, it's an act of God. It's an act of God. And he has a really, like, inappropriate humor. And when he's, he does. Like, when he's loud, it's crazy. So everyone turns around. We're in like a super religious. part of like it's a religious town already and and and what religion and he starts Catholic is the biggest

so there my my I'm literally pulling my dad the guy is getting super angry I'm like okay calm down I'm like are you drunk what's going on here we said we get back to the porch at the restaurant and he he goes one more time it's an act of God it's an act of God and then he turns to me he goes you really believe in God? You stupid? Okay, something is going on with your... He's a strange one. Well, I can see why they think he's a terrorist.

Like, he's probably in the airport, like, shouting, like, on at the top of this... It's an act of God. So, then this woman at the table next to us turns around, and she's like, honestly, I don't believe in God either. It's like 60-year-old woman in treatment, and I was like, oh. I'm so happy you didn't hit old-time grocer. The best po-boy in the Acadiana's save. Grocery. Save Boncriel.

No. Boncaryl is better than. That's a name option, grocer. Grocer. Yeah, yeah. Barley Grocer. Oh, that was my job. That was my family's job in Poland.

the other day I was walking to the park Marley comedian I was walking to Herbert von King and my friend was like a tree just fell on a bunch of people I got there like a huge tree fell on a bunch of people and then I was like sitting there

and he was telling me about like his 40 year old situation ship while I'm just like watching like people being like carted out like bloody from a tree falling or it's like literally that's where I sat the day before. It was crazy.

Like literally, it is acting bodies. Do you think trees are attacking people? Do you think that's why these things are angry at the environment? That's why the whales are doing it. Period. What are the whales?

Period. They're attacking like small boats and like yachts and slamming their heads into them and trying to sing them. The orca is off the coast of Spain, I believe, are, um... Yeah. ruining the like whatever the rudders is that what you call it for boats and stuff they're like

attacking them and headbutting propellers and seeking ships propellers yeah that and that's gonna be like a movie in five years like whatever like something's already in development for some avatar too that that's what happens in avatar too oh oh yeah fire and water the way of water oh have not seen it wake that up darling fire wind air and Earth and water. Period. Farr. Fuck Avatar, though.

James Cameron made one major mistake. He didn't tell me. He didn't catch me. He should have stopped after Terminator 2 judgment day and ended his film career. That's that. That's all he did to do. What about true lies? You don't like true lies.

Never seen it. Okay. You would love it. You okay, John? Does anyone have any more questions for me? Like, I know that I'm like the guest here. question. I have a good question. I have a good question for you.

When you were, when you were a kid, what was your, like, thing that you were, because, like, was it, like, dinosaurs or cars or, like, um, I was, like, yeah, like, what was I, oh, you know what I did like? I was printing out pages and pages and pages and pages and memorizing

potions and spells and spells. Oh, period. Harry Potter. Oh, period. And I liked poetry, too. I would memorize a lot of, like, Emily Dickinson poems. Oh, that's beautiful.

I loved, let's see. I guess, like, yeah, like, what age are we talking about? Like, I'm thinking, like, middle school? Or, like, eight to, yeah, like, eight, like five to eight. I was, like, choreographing dances. I took like a hip hop class Oh my god I was like scarf dancing

I want to wake that up Yeah stop start hip hop dancing again Oh I am I think she should be a Stop honey Okay here's my dream movie with you It's a remake of Jessica Alba's honey The dance movie with you as the star

Okay I'll be the new Jessica Alba if I have to I used to have such a crush on her like the one that was like was like oh who's your celebrity crush and people would be like Jessica Alba or Megan Fox it wasn't it wasn't a stock answer for me

I legitimately was like I was queening out for her you know but I remember just being like oh my gosh she is such a beautiful woman it wasn't sexual but she was just like

it was early stage diva worship you know but if you had to have sex with her would you I would have sex with Jessica, but sure. Yeah. I read a blind item that she can't read. Isn't that funny?

Don't talk about her like that. Don't talk about Jessica. I was saying it was so she's stealing Leah and Michelle's whole thing. Right. Period. I thought Leah and Michelle's thing was that she was just a racist. Is she a racist? No, she's a rapist.

Oh. The C and you see the P and it's easy to miss them out. It's really hard, but you know, get it correct. if you're going to say it on a podcast. Yeah, yeah. Shit. I'm a failing. If you did clips, that would be clips.

You're calling Leah Michelle a rapist? Yeah, yeah. No, literally. I've never done that to you with clips, Marley. I've never reached me. No, no, you're amazing. Well, you're like, you're an actual, sorry. You're an actual genius.

I was. Oh, hey, hey, hey. Oh. Period. Shots fired. They're nice guys. Nothing against them. Everyone is a nice person.

Everyone's nice. I hope no one gets crushed by a tree. I love all gay guys. Yeah. Don't worry. Whatever kind of clipping they did to you, it'll never compare it to whatever kind of clips that could be made out of me for the trial of when they publicly execute me. They're like, well, we have about 50 submissions from seeking derangements.

Well, there's, there's an out, I think it's a seven-hour-long compilation of every medical issue you've talked about on the show. Someone's posted that to YouTube, and it's just like Jock talking about his medical problems, and it's fully seven hours, I believe. That's crazy. Well, it's all you talk about. Yeah, it's not like the first time I came on this show, I think you, like, the first time I came on this show, I think you, like, stood up and showed me your belly. and then started talking about something that was wrong. Yeah. You're lucky it wasn't during his anal cyst era because he would have shown you that.

Oh, come on. That was only once. That was only once and it was behind the curtain, excuse me, not behind the camera. Oh, my God. Ben, I totally forgot about the Jacques bingo cards I made. Oh, let's do that next episode. Yeah, yeah. Marley, can this...

Speaking of... I don't know if I brought my best self this episode, but I think, you know, I think it's raw. I think everyone should go see Marley. Marley is one of the funniest people I know, and you will have a great time seeing Marley, go do it. I never plug anything on this show. Like, we don't really, I mean, you can see having guests on this kind of a shit show, but go see Marley, everyone. I implore you to go see. And Hesse and I will be there.

And Jock might fly. Yeah. I think it'll, right. I think it'll be fun. The first time I was actually on this, somebody who did my show in Portland was like, oh my God,

Marley's on my favorite podcast. So I do feel like you're, so maybe I'll have some people fly out from the Pacific Northwest to come see the show. Let's get him in, girl. We can wrap up. September 16th.

You want to plug for Marley? Plug for Marley. Just one more time, Marley. Tell us on September 16th where the show is. 16th, the public theater at Joe's Pub at the public theater, 7th or 80 p.m. And I want you there. And technically the night before, I do also have a show that I'm hosting called Laugh, and that's at Union Hall in Brooklyn. What's the name of the September 16th show?

Laugh. Or no. No, sorry. That's the 15th is Laugh. 16th is Marley Goddorers, as we've been over a lot of times. Gotter. Got it. Poetry Slam.

It was originally, I've done it a couple of times. It was called Woke's Back poetry slam. I remember, yeah. Yeah, I took out the Woke's Back just because, like, that's, you know, we know that now. Yeah. It's back. Like, we don't have to keep saying it. And then at some point, you're going to have to watch.

my show that will come out. Congratulations. Thank you. We have to film it, and then congratulations will be in order. Period, darling. But you got it. Well, I'm proud of you, Marley. You deserve it.

I'm proud of it. We'll be able to see that one day. You deserve 24 feature movies and six series on television, and 15 comedy specials, all HBO hour long, lots of production money and let's get her a tiara I think it'll happen I think it'll happen

definitely after this episode airs like for sure I was just about to say remember who put you on the damn map seeking arrangements and Jock Consen in particular well there's we need to

we'll talk next episode will really I'm going to put Ben on the hot seat and we're gonna I love when guys come on and bully yeah come on yeah

I love when guys come on and fully been. But until next time, everyone, thank you for listening, seeking arrangements. You can have a bonus episode on Patreon. Go see Marley. And bye-bye, everyone. Bye.