Seeking Derangements - SD 88 - Cruising (with Hesse)

Episode Date: October 9, 2021

Hesse (@ZeroSuitCamus on twitter) joins us to deconstruct Cruising using marxist film analysis with extra gender and a side of queer. Paul Verhoeven should have made this movie instead. patreon.com/seekingderangements - new episodes every week

🎵 okay we're on hey hey hey hey hey hey. Hey, hey, hey, everyone. We're with Claire Penis, international Twitter star. It's Claire Penis. You retard. Excuse me, madam.

Oui, oui, Claire Penis. Okay, we got Max here and Ben here as usual. Or do you think it's like Pen penne like the pasta or like panini like the sandwich no i just i just thought it was like a really funny like like fake identity like hello my name is claire penis um i'm not i'm not like the other girls no i'm stupid I'm not like the other girls I'm Italian but yeah

we're here with Hessa and we're here to talk a very important movie 1980 Al Pacino Cruisin now I want to bring up the first fact that this is the second movie the director of the

this is the movie that the guy who directed the exorcist did immediately after. I thought that it was just so crazy that the same guy who made cruising made the exorcist. I just didn't see it. Yeah. Thank you for the fun fact. Um,

but yeah, that's right. Thank you for reading the Wikipedia page. shock um but yeah that's right thank you for reading the wikipedia page every time we review a movie or like a tv show or whatever where take us take a damn screenshot of that it's not something you did not immediately after reading the second paragraph of the cruising film article on Wikipedia. Y'all, I got so many notes. I copied and pasted the entire Wikipedia into a Google Doc form and put it on my phone.

Did you guys know that cruising is a play on words with a dual meaning because cruising can describe both police officers on patrol as well as men who are cruising for sex? I fucking hate y'all. I come in ready with this to say some you think you did journalism by just like people people give glenn greenwald so much money to do exactly the same thing um but we're here we're reviewing cruising the um yes the movie with al pacino

um i think a quick summary on it is there's a gay guy murderer who's killing other gay guys the homo killer and al pacino has to go undercover as a gay guy to kind of be would that be a honeypot yeah right yeah kind of honeypots for like intelligence i'd love to fill up his honey pedophiles but uh but yeah i mean he's okay gay guys same thing you know they're still uh targeting lgbt people i think exactly. But yeah, Al Pacino goes undercover to catch this gay serial killer. I don't remember

the character's name. All of my notes say Al, so you guys are cool if we just refer to the character as Al. His name is Steve Burns. I'm sorry. I'm Steve Burns. It's so unbelievable. Why are they keeping this guy some wasp-ass

middle American name when he's clearly so Italian by looking at him? My name's Steve Burns. My uncle works in sanitation. He burns the garbage. That's how he got the name. I gotta say that the cast was so incredible.

The cast was incredible. Karen Allen delivers a stellar performance in this movie. Who's the guy? was so incredible like the cast was actually incredible karen allen karen allen delivers a stellar performance in this movie and every guy is great in every movie who played gregory gregory was um oh what's his name something james remar james remar yeah so hot he's so young in this way okay i think the hottest one was Skip. Skip is definitely the hottest for me. Skip is like a total baddie. And I love how hot all these little leather twinks are.

Because Al Pacino looks more busted in this movie than he does in any movie that i've ever seen clammy they look so clammy you can i felt like i felt like just waves of like saliva like just it made me feel wet in like the worst way not in like a hot way like looking at him crazy perspective that he just did all the godfather movies in this time period and then the next thing he does is the gayest movie possible yeah yeah and like i remember seeing the movie like six or seven years ago i do not remember the fisting yeah i do not okay let's get let's get into it let's get into it before you before you give away the climax shot the fisting scene let's get what i thought first before we get to the porno the movie opens

it takes place in new york city of course um the opening scene takes place on the hudson river and the first shot is like this like steamboat and two sailors are there and then they're they're looking out into the distant river and there's a disembodied arm. And the guy's like, Captain, you gotta come look at this. There's a limp wrist floating in the Hudson. Yeah, I was gonna say, when they're examining it, he sees how limp the wrist is and it's like,

you can just put it as an accident. We got another one. Okay, also, I don't know. A disembodied limp wrist of the week. I don't know if this is real science or something but for whatever reason shut up shut up the arm the severed arm when they're at the like morgue has the longest nails like disgusting long long nails also no your nails keep growing after you die yeah oh yeah it's a post-mortem slay

my nails are giving post-mortem um so yeah the they go to the the morgue there's the what do you call the coroner is like looking at the body he's like talking to a detective and he's like you know we got another arm found in the hudson looks gay and then uh it's like what would you is this like a a hard-boiled what's the what's the name yeah it's a noir yeah like that um detective noir the gay chinatown yeah exactly um and so our next scene is we see two cops on patrol they apprehended a scene two trans women okay they forced they forced one of them to give them a blow job yeah and then that's kind of it for for these two characters they guys in the entire new york police force on chaser patrol we have to talk a little bit about how busted both of these guys look like they

they went for like the most disgusting uh like herpes ridden like assholes they could like farm animals yeah they look like farm animals that's it's not about the trans women that way shock I'm not talking of you talking about the cops and the two cops going

back to back and forth before they start like fucking with the trans people one of the cops turns to the other cop and says, one day, this whole city will explode. And then it cuts to the next scene. They predicted 9-11, y'all. I'm serious!

I'm serious. And behind the scenes, Friedkin is like, yeah, you know, we had a real transsexual play that one part and his name was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed he was a hot designer out of Egypt and you know

get ahead of him his agent was playing hardball with us and we had to settle but then he's like then I decided not to use not to use him you know really? I was like yeah it's just an actor that's so funny to have a trans woman there and like willing to act and do this movie which is like and then they're like i know we

let's get let's get a male he's like i gave it to my buddy's younger brother he's trying to break out of the scene oh my god okay so after this trans woman is forced to give the cop a blowjob um the camera pans and tracks this like you know shadowy figure into a gay bar um and we then find out that this is the killer

um and it's like yes it is it is so the first scene is this guy um the killer picking up picking up... Adam Driver. Picking up a gay guy at one of these bars

and bringing him... He never takes his sunglasses off. He's always smoking a cigarette. His voice is the most dubbed over voice of all time. It sounds like a Giallo movie or something. It is really dubbed over. And there are a lot of dubs in this movie you know what i think it's because when they were making the movie gay guys were

protesting it and they would because they're shooting all of this in lower manhattan or like the upper like near central park or something and gay guys would be protesting it and they'd be following the film crew around and they would be whistling and banging on pots and pans to fuck up the audio because they didn't want the movie to be made so a majority of the audio in this movie is overdubbed and that's why it sounds like shit okay can we take a pause to say why are these gay people protesting we can talk about that we can talk about that at the end but uh at the end of the review it just makes gay people look so cool the whole movie even when they're getting killed

so the killer is yes as you were saying Jacques he's always wearing the same thing he has a kind of signature slay Tom of Finland leather jacket short belt cop glasses aviator

or Joe Biden it's Joe Biden glasses. Joe Biden, y'all. Don't you start with that sleepy Joe bullshit. Is this an aside, but like, why is the Leather Daddy thing such, because it's like a cop

fetishization, because they also have nightclubs all the time. I'm like, why not pick a different profession for gay guys to fix them up? Or pick a different profession or something or like a train conductor or something because they're just as like sartorially distinguished as like cops you know it's like yeah a lot of options for a train conductor you could be like it's the most like go on one whistle when you come you could You could really incorporate a lot, I think. It's just, the leather thing, I don't

really get that much. I would say a majority of the movie is shot in these leather gay bars, more or less. William Prekin mentions that in the behind the scenes, and he's like, It's the name of the director? Yeah, he's like, in the original novel,

it's like normal gay people but i was like you know now there's all these leather bars i see all the time and i'm like you know i don't want to make this a movie about this book because you know there there's no leather and you know and uh but then i realized i could just put it in the leather it is an incredibly sauce movie I'm assuming the director is straight But it is like How are you as a man making a movie About gay guys

I love how Edgy it is it's just like yeah BDSM it's the worst thing you can do Besides being gay And if they're both BDSM and leather They're kink shaming If you've ever bottomed, you've been raped

is essentially the message of this movie. Exactly. Yeah, actually, that is true. Very true. Yeah, I mean, for a lot of people, yes, it may as well be true. That's like a Bible quote or something. I swear I've heard that before.

John 3.16. So the killer goes in in he's hanging out he's hanging out at these the bars are all of course in basements they are um smoke filled everyone in there is just like sweating out of every single pore everybody is everybody on the exact same spot on stage or they're not moving it's just a bunch of gay guys just glaring at each other in these bars they're all so serious no one's smiling once in the entire movie there's not a single smile it's just these guys just in leather like the the punk band the germs did the. So it's just like California punk. Like that.

And it's just these sweaty guys glaring at each other. And just pacing in these bars. I don't want to jump. It looks like the least fun time imaginable. First of all, it looks like the coolest gay bar I've ever seen. I've never seen a gay bar that looked like that in there. Except in orleans at the phoenix where people are like fucking in the bar still gay bars like that yeah i mean like these bars are i think all mostly still exist in new york they're like dying i think all these ones are gentrified and like greenwich village and stuff

like there's a lot of like rape a baby in there. There's nothing worse than... They're not like advancing to like hard, like EBM and doing poppers. They're like sacrificing a child to Moloch. It's all like prospect park like sex parties now that you get invited to in like an email chain. I have not attended Do Not Go,

but that's the closest thing I know happening to that in the city there's a notorious circuit gay now yeah i'm a circuit gay i thought i noticed something new about your kitchen um you live in hell you just stop there i live in hell so the killer goes in he um spots a guy coincidentally this guy does look like a lot like al pacino al pacino has not been you know pictured in the movie yet he takes that guy home um and he murders him by by stabbing him in the back um after tying him up in a bds somewhat yeah so this is like my favorite scene because it's such a good scene it is really good scene. It was a perfect horror scene.

Yeah, it's really scary. It's really fucking scary. Yeah. We've all been there. We've all been there. Oh my god. A lot of times all of us probably could have been literally stabbed in the back.

I should have been dead already for the times that i was like okay i agreed to be chained the moment you decided to accept the moment you decided to accept payment and cake is it's when you lost one time i was one time i was dating this guy who was like yeah i'm a sex worker it's like the first person i met that said was that they were a sex worker and we were hooking up and he said okay i just want to chain you to all fours to the bed and put a blindfold on you and just like do whatever i want and i was like sure like what what's what's the worst that could happen i was down and i i want to say before i even finish the story it was a good time okay

you did not you did not get killed so the first thing is i just got immediately punched in the face oh so he did start beating you up he mentioned jock got killed by a killer but by one of those uh like a cruiser or cruising killers you know yeah no totally i can get him involved you know you have to like get up all the gay clubs in Denver. The cops would be like, sir, are you Jacques' brother? We have some tragic news for you. And it has a veil at the funeral. Oh.

Box of Kleenex and a veil. Okay, so a guy that looks like Pacino is dead. We have to get through this shock. Okay, I just want to say one last thing. We're literally two minutes into the movie. Just one thing, one thing, one thing.

Okay, go ahead. I thought that getting punched in the face or the blindfold was shocking. And I was like, oh, nothing's going to top this. And then I got tased. God. Okay, that was it. But it was a great time.

It was a great time. And then we had sex. I wish I had the ability to remotely tase you. I could just press it. It would be so useful. Anyways, we are proceeding with the movie.

Okay. Since this gay guy is dead that looks like al pacino um it's i don't know how many men before this have been killed but it's becoming kind of a problem and so the police there's a scene where the police are like okay we have to try something new and al pacino now makes his entrance into the movie he's called into the sergeant's office and the sergeant is like do you like cocks we got a weird one for you buddy um he yeah he like asks albany's like have you ever ever sucked a cock i have the i have the quote right here he said he's like i'm calling OSHA. Sir. I love the whole thing. He says,

Let me ask you something. Have you ever had your cock sucked by a man? A man? No. Ever been porked? Or had a man smoke your pork? You've got to be kidding. He's like, damn. So basically the sergeant tells,

the captain tells him, look, you want a promotion? We need you to do this all for us because just too many gay guys are being murdered. You look like the kind of guy that the pretty gay killer loves. Well, he says that the killer has a type that, you know, dark guys.

You're the same type as the victims and then he says um late 20s I know that's how old Pacino is supposed to be also let's be honest the type is just Italian the type is just

Italian guy can you imagine how much better this movie would have been if they had John Travolta instead? Oh my god. John Travolta would have been squirting the whole time. He would have been too horny to act in this movie.

Do y'all think that Al Pacino is bad at acting in this or something? No, but he just doesn't fit. He's just like some... Does Al Pacino have gay face? No, he doesn't. He does look the entire movie like he doesn't fit. He's just like some... Does Al Pacino have gay face? No, he doesn't. He does look the entire movie like he doesn't want to be there. He is screaming like,

I need to be back in my mama's kitchen and I need to be selling her sauce. I think Al Pacino... He's retreating to that safe space. He can tell. He has borderline gay face. I think he does. Borderline.

Maybe. He's just... The only thing I see him and I think he does. Borderline. Maybe. He's just... The only thing I see him in, I think, is on Caccino. Like, the time has passed. Yeah, but gay... Sorry, Max. Gay Italians exist.

I don't know. No, no, no. Why you're trying to erase them. That's what they look like. They're 93 pounds, and they're going to waste away in the wind. Or they're like 800 pounds and shiny as fuck.

And Al Pacino isn't either. Al Pacino is just like some guy. He's like some Italian guy. Regardless of whether or not he's gay, he does say yes to the job. I loved imagining that like, you know, the kind of like cliche, like pre-climax, like moment that's always in all like cop movies

where it's like, you've gone too far detectives need to turn in your gun and your badge if his if his sergeant was like detective turn in your dildo and your popper this case this case is going to your head man you're threatening you're threatening the department. So Al says yes. Al says yes. And he moves, of course, to an apartment on Christopher Street to be undercover and live in a gay neighborhood. And he meets a neighbor of his in the hallway.

A gay guy, of course. Al's wearing a wife beater. His neighbor is also wearing a wife beater. Ted! His neighbor says... Ted. That's his name. His neighbor Ted.

Sorry. His neighbor Ted is wearing a wife beater that just says Christopher Street on it. Yeah. Oh, I love that. I love that. It's so funny. He's throwing away old gay porn magazines.

Yeah. Yeah. old crusted over uh porn and then he's like our lady neighbor like hey you throwing away any good stuff yeah yeah yeah and he's there's like a funny little aside where he's like don't he's like leave them aside our landlady sells them um but i love it i love the christopher street wife beater because it's like it'd be like today just like uh like a little like nb person wearing a like shirt that just says like myrtle broadway what is what is what is christopher's racist white girl just wearing a tank top that says dime square i only know what christopher street is like from this movie what is it like it's just a gay street um but it's the greenwich

village right it's like it can't be near yes it's not sexy anymore i mean no it's not it's not sexy anymore there's no sexy places left in Manhattan except for the suicide building in Chinatown. What about my apartment? Hessa's apartment. In the next scene, let's see. So he moves to Christopher Street. He meets his neighbor.

They go and get coffee and they talk about the killer. Al seems to be very good, honestly, at talking to gay guys. He doesn't seem weird out at all um recently his neighbor's normal his neighbor's pretty chill guy his neighbor like well his neighbor is the only neighbor they walk and they talk they change out of their wife beaters and they both put on button up shirts that are half unbuttoned. Half unbuttoned and eight sizes too big. Already got the gay wardrobe down.

He's, I think, doing pretty well at this. And then in the scene after this, Al's job is basically, at this point, going into these bars and trying to get murdered, honestly. That's his job. He's going into a leather bar and being like,

who wants who wants to kill me i'm gonna stand in the corner over here please someone try to kill me let's be real every time that i dress slutty i'm like hey come here and fuck me or come and kill me exactly come here and fuck me or come and kill me. Gay sex murder me. Exactly. It's the death dryer. She's getting sick to him. Oh my god. He starts doing... I mean, out of us three, Jacques is closest to the... The most murderable.

Well, you're closest to the killer's type. You're kind of far off, but I think he'd go for you. Maybe Max. So far, yes. I'm a little too swarthy for that. You're a little too swarthy. I'm too pale. Yes, okay, that's fine. That's all you wanted to say, Jock.

Just wanted to call me pale. Okay, so in the next scene, Al is starting to kind of, I think, trying to get his grip on what gay nightlife is like in this scene. And so he goes into a gay sex shop of sorts and um he sees an array of bandanas and he's like there's like you know a bunch of different colored bandanas and then he asks the the shopkeep like what what are these about buddy the shopkeep goes into a 12-minute monologue about what each bandana means.

Guy's like, this one's for bottoms. This one's for piss. Like blue, Hank, in your left back pocket means you want a blowjob. Right pocket means you give one. The green one left side says you're a hustler. Right side, you're a buyer. Yellow one left side means you give golden shower right side you receive the red one please say anything you want if the red bandana is tied around your bicep

that means you want a fist if it's tied around your your gaping asshole it means you want to get fisted it's so stupid it's like god i'm showing up there like wearing all the bandanas fuck all that if i really wanted to get killed i would wear all the bandanas pulling pulling a string of every bandana out of your top hat and looking around to see what's coming over. I'd have one as a bow around my head, one as a bow around my neck, two bows. It'll be perfect. So Al kind of spazzes out a bit. He's like, thank you, sir.

And then he runs out of the shop. He does the art as a walk where he just doesn't even say goodbye. He just goes, oh, okay, bye. See you later. He's like, blurgg and then he runs out of the shop he has a big blurk moment i'm gonna go home think about it i'm sure you'll make the right choice the song that's playing in this part is like so goofy like i'm sorry but it's like the goofiest shit on earth. Like the intro song was also.

So then the next thing Al goes back, he goes back again to the like he's got a taste for sex bar dungeon. In this case, he is now wearing a yellow bandana in his back pocket, which means he wants to piss on someone as he as he very well knows and then he's doing he's he's sitting in the corner looking around seeing who wants to murder him and then a guy with another yellow bandana in his pocket walks over this guy's like hey what are you into no he says you in the water sports and then al is like no No, I just, I like to watch. Later. Yeah. And then he gets scolded by the guy for appropriating piss play culture.

He's like, If you like to watch, take that hanky out of your pocket, asshole. It's kind of the bar for appropriating culture. I mean, it's beautiful. Piss culture. The beautiful city. Honestly, it happens so often in this. It's so great.

I know. I would do the same. There's kind of like an element of Curb Your Enthusiasm to this movie. It's just like bouncing between locations, getting yelled at by people. I mean, it makes sense. If you see that, if you take that into account, it makes sense

for Al Pacino to be in that role, you know? Because if someone who looks like Al Pacino pacino to be in that role you know because if someone who looks like al pacino came up to do all that all those things you would also yell at him some like you know a pasty white guy with you know who looks like he's you know cold sweating his way like through like withdrawal of some sort even ask you like hey what do these bandanas stand for whatever i just have to say this too i wrote sweaty seven times on different lines in my notes everyone is sweaty in this movie they're just like hosing these guys down before they roll tape i feel like i would have really

done well on christopher street in these bars you wouldn't have you kind of have like a classic pervert look to you. It's so crazy. That broke Hessa hearing that I have the classic gay pervert face. You do. You do.

I don't know why. Usually I'm very sensitive. You either look like a sea lion or like a menacing pervert. For whatever reason, I'm liking this. This is a good... You're feeling affirmed. Well, usually I would feel like this is you teasing me. Y'all, I got rid of gender dysphoria now that I'm single and I date no one.

So also they're all pockmarked. Everyone in this movie is pockmarked and sweaty. Well well because they hadn't invented accutane until the 80s i'm not i'm not i don't it's fine this is this is before they invented skinny blonde twinks this is exactly okay also not a single blonde man in this movie not a single blonde man in this movie no no no there's a couple ginger ted's ginger there's ted he's ginger ted is strawberry blonde come on yes yeah thank you okay fine oh my god there is one blonde guy with a mustache and yeah oh that's true but those don't count really hot that is true every single guy so they are um do you think the cast was actually gay? No. Al gets scolded. No, absolutely not. Of course not. Absolutely.

I know from the behind the scenes that most of them were straight. Yeah. Everyone's straight. Such a shame. That's good acting. So the next scene after Al gets scolded is in Central Park. They are a bunch of gay guys hanging out in the park at night near the infamous Bramble, which was a notorious cruising spot now i

think all that happens is the bramble in the bramble is like that like karen videos like that one that one guy who was bird watching and then that one walked up to him yeah that happened because of her dog or something and she like called the police on him that guy was there cruising he was a he's a gay marvel blurred and he was going there and he was cruising i i i don't believe the bird watcher inheritance he's trying to fuck it's like noon he's like pretending to hold like a double dildo up to his eyes like binoculars I'm just here bird watching like an immediate Patagonia vest this shirtless with a

Patagonia vest on you can like see his harness over one of his shoulders um so at the bramble bunch of gay guys are hanging out there the killer walks up and you know lures a guy out into the bramble and kills him the thing that i don't

understand is that like why are all of these guys into the killer he has such killer vibes they loved his mystique and his allure you you know, as a mysterious person. Listen, you go to somebody and you're like, hey, I love Grateful Dead. What music are you into? Yeah, I'm into the screams of children. Have you ever listened to Peter Soto by your side? His voice, it sounds like the Batman voice. He's like, oh, you made me do this. You know what I realized?

Like this watch I think his voice when he's like the killer like in the scene where he kills someone I think it's the actor that plays his dad oh that would make sense oh that would make sense

spoilers for the end of the movie there's some daddy drama I don't really understand what the daddy is yeah i love it's very amorphous yeah we can get to the daddy issues because there's a whole like scene with the dad but i love the cop scene i love the batman voice thing because i was imagining that this takes place in like the same universe as Batman and this is like Batman's other night job where he like he serves the public by going around and murdering

a bunch of gay guys that's where he finds Robin he's getting rid of the degenerates exactly that overdub really does have that uh jalo movie feel yeah he also said that literally five minutes ago no I know

I'm just relating it again we have it recorded in the next scene um al is yet again going to another gay club um he gets kicked out this time for seeming like a cop and when he is walking out... Wait, can we please talk about the cop scene? We will get there, Jacques. You're breezing right over it. Keep going. Okay, I think it's later. Jacques, I have it laid out in front of me chronologically.

Okay, never mind. You go. So, Alice followed outside of the gay bar by... No, that's the cop club scene. Oh, okay. Go ahead go ahead jock so thank you okay so let me just paint you the picture of what he walks down into because this this scene i don't understand how i forgot about it maybe i've never really thought about cops intelligently until the last like few years or whatever but when i originally saw this movie i did not remember this

i don't know why he walks down the stairs to a cop themed night now i don't even know how they could pull this off today they would it couldn't happen but it was like a hundred gay men fucking kissing sucking all in cop uniforms it's literally like the nypd's nightmare oh my god it's like it's like a toxic masculinity nightmare they're being toxic they're being toxically masculine yes i can't believe i can't believe imagine going into one of these clubs as a woman like you think like gay bars are like bad and annoying and misogynistic now which they are but like imagine going

into one of these bars you would be sacrificed if you're trans mask you can either do injections or this gel they give you and you're not allowed to work with children with the you're not allowed to use the gel if you work with children because

you can like rub it off on them and yeah and it's like like acid everyone i feel like it's the same in these clubs like if you're a woman and you walk in you just start like growing a beard just like so much testosterone in the air. Like aerosol testosterone. Totally. Okay, so then Al gets kicked out of the cop night because they think that he's actually a cop. Or you know, he's not dressed like a cop. No, no, they think he's a cop at one point.

They say, what are you? He's kicked out and then he's followed. He's followed outside of the bar by this guy who tries to fuck him. This hottie. Who I think is the first like actually really hot guy in the movie we don't find out that he's this character he's a he's a character named um skip lee um i'm guessing it was something to do like a general

did he had a general lee vibe to me. A Confederate vibe. Anyway. So he, then what happens? Oh, so at this night, the killer strikes again because the killer is at that bar. Oh, no. He goes into a little porno theater in the back of the bar and kills another guy who looked exactly like Al Pacino by stabbing him in the back.

I want to make a comment about this scene. It was so weird to hear punk music playing at like a sex arcade. I have never been to a sex arcade or a bathhouse. They would dare play the germs. I mean, they exist. We exist. Jock.

I feel like the last time I went to a bathhouse or an arcade, I heard a Fireworks by Katy Perry over the speakers. It would have been so funny if Fireworks by Katy Perry was playing while he murdered him instead. It's a fun... It's Two Weeks by FK Twigs.

So he kills the guy and in something that comes comes into play later there's a close-up scene of the killer pushing a core a bloody quarter into the uh little like like receptacle that you put money into to play the movie um so then what happens oh the next scene is the cop like um al's boss being called into like a higher office to talk to his boss's boss and the it's not the da whatever the top cop is like top cop the kamala of the movie yeah it's like it's like listen listen buddy we we've got all these homos they're pissed because they keep getting murdered. We need this case solved. The homos are rioting.

I'm going to throw up my ass about all the homos that are dying. Now I have to fucking do something. By this point, Pacino has done nothing. And he's just nothing. It's just scenes of him going out to the clubs and probably having sex like at at

these sex clubs yeah just blending in you know in quotation marks i honestly he goes home to to like bang his beautiful dime piece of a wife yeah beautiful wife so um and like he's like crying in the shower because he can't get it up now really putting the heat on him too much go ahead go ahead okay thank you so much sorry i was trying to express how hot karen allen is in this movie and you're just you're just barreling ahead without even without even a care for one of the most beautiful dames of the screen so i i just assume every transition of the scene where al pacino is walking off in the distance in the gay clubs or leaving the gay clubs that he's having

sex yeah like maybe i misunderstood the undertones of the movie. Maybe that's not what's really happening. I assumed he was having movie... I assumed he was at least second cock. There were 40 minutes of the movie that the director had to cut because they were too graphic. And in those scenes, the director was saying that it made the movie a bit more ambiguous

because they implied more heavily that Al Pacino was having gay sex. But how much more heavily can they imply without showing full penetration? I mean, he's literally watching guys suck nightsticks and get fisted. Yeah. But he looks, like, grossed out.

Yeah. The director... But not grossed out enough to leave. Like, there's some intrigue. He's still there. He's still showing up. He's still there. I read something last night

that the director said that the movie was supposed to be about two types of fears. The fear of being murdered and the fear of becoming gay. Yeah, of being gay. Same thing. And I was like, wow. Those are the two types of fears. Those are the only types of fears. The two genders, exactly.

So now Al is really getting the um the pressure put on him um meanwhile the cops recover some fingerprints that were that was left on the quarter um so the killer's fingerprints have now been um they've been had um let's see he okay he goes back to a club again and he does poppers al decides to do he like i love this scene it is like one like movies can never really accurately approximate like what drugs feel like it's very rare that you see a drug scene where it's like that is what it feels like but al starts dancing with this guy who tries to pick him up and then he starts the guy passes him a bandana after it looks like getting like how you get chloroformed like yeah it's like no it's like ether it's like ether you've never done before

i thought it was poppers oh he's doing ether well no no no well i it was poppers in the movie but you do ether on a rag too too. Yeah. Like that. Yeah, but at the club. Hey, hey, we're dancing to Ignition or like Steps to the Name of Love. Hang on. Let me get my ether rag out to enjoy this moment. I honestly remember being handed an ether rag when I was 15 at the bar. Okay, well.

What kind of bar is it? Louisiana's pulling you down. Artiana's atmosphere this is an art it's very different now i was not offered ether when i was there a bunch of just like nbs were mean to me has has the scene where where uh skip lee is getting interrogated happened yeah sorry sorry don't mean to jump ahead just back to the club he does poppers and in the the effect they used to um simulate uh being high on poppers is just like a really shaky kind of like uh uh like yeah like you can trail like the trails of movement very good it looks like like it's going into a dream sequence or

something i yeah hessa you go he's dancing like elaine from seinfeld had like the part of her brain that controls motion like disconnected he's doing the chicken dance the fucking thing and like the robot and shit no he does a lot of like jerking and it's a lot of like it's like if John McCain was dancing because his elbows are fixed they're bent and he's just moving them at the shoulder like this he looks like one of those German

roid heads on ecstasy at a hardcore festival yeah you know what I'm talking about like bald and they're like just like he's so violent the way he's dancing in the scene he's not having a good time he's tweaking the fuck out he's doing he's doing his signature really pouty angry face it looks like that video of hitler stimming like during the 36 little things it's a good trouble for posting that a lot but like it's such a funny video exactly okay so while he's dancing he he sees skip um at the bar and he

talks to a bartender and he's like who's that guy over there and he points at skip lee and the bartender says like he's he's a scumbag stay away from him he's he's no good he's gonna he's gonna raw dog you and ghost you al don't don't don't and so he's gonna give you rectal chlamydia he leaves and gets into a cop car that's scouting the club and he talks to the cop in the front and he's like look at that guy that that guy's a suspect and he's been canceled by the waiter yeah he says that guy skip something i can't remember what his last name is and the bartender told him like he told like yeah a half hour al is so bad and his job is a cop if it were me if it were me and they're like going to this gay bar and tell me which one

is killing someone i would be like okay it's the guy over there who has most of his face obscured. It's the guy smoking American Spirits blacks. Oh my god. Those are my favorite. Those are the best ones. Let's see. The most likely to be murdered is also the most likely to be a murderer. What a surprise.

Okay. Y'all, first of all, y'all are always making this jump that I'm stupid. And then the days that I'm stupid. You're always so stable, aren't you? And then the days that I'm not stupid, I'm an evil genius murderer. No, baby, you're... Choose a... You are simply slaying the game today, Jacques.

And so then in the next scene, the cops go up. These are different cops. These are like other cops. Different cops? Different cops go up and they bother. Are these the chaser cops or not? No, the chaser cops.

The chaser cops. They go back up and they bother the same trans woman from earlier. And she's just trying to play a game of dice on the side of the street with her bros. She's like playing dice. The cops go up and they're like do you know who this guy skip lee is and she what she's like no she gives them his last name is what she does yeah yeah and then she tells them where he works i believe these aren't the chaser cops this is the the other cop guy who's the guy this movie's like based on i see i see yeah okay so she basically this guy's frank serpico right she gives uh them a lead on skip and tells them where he works they then go out to the like

steakhouse skip lee works we love that um it's also so hard to tell the men in this movie apart yeah they all look like each other's gay brother i mean when they catch the murderer the first time i saw this movie i was like oh no they got the wrong guy but it is the same actor but it is also like the wrong guy right well i think the the ending is kind of as to who the murder is maybe open-ended i don't know clearly they didn't have a budget to have as many extras as they needed 40 minutes of porno that they shot accidentally wait wait wait hold up and we're supposed to remove from the movie do you have to have a cry do you have to have a criterion collection subscription to see this 40 minutes no no the

40 minutes it was destroyed they burned it Universal Studios gave it to the Catholic Church another another sus ass guy was like wait let me find let me find a way to watch 40 minutes of gay porn for my

job Al Pacino must have really sucked a cock good. If they deleted it. He's a method actor. I don't think he's that method. He deleted it. This is going to turn the country gay if we show it. It's like when Riff Raff was like,

yeah, I got signed to Mad Decent because I was at a party with Diplo and I rapped over a beat so hard that he deleted the beat. And then Diplo's telling the same story. He's like, I black Diplo, and I rapped over a beat so hard that he deleted the beat. And then Diplo's telling the same story. He's like, I blacked out drunk, and I woke up, and he was signed to the company.

That's so sick. So they go to the steakhouse. They profile Skip. Then they have a meeting. The cops, like everyone on this case, has a meeting. And they pull out a knife, and they're're like this is the knife the killer's using but it just looks like any regular knife like it's not a gun

it's literally it's literally a Ruth Chris steakhouse like knife that's been sharpened without the little bristles exactly what do you call the little edges of a knife ser the little bristles exactly exactly whatever you call what do you call the little serrated knife yeah yeah yes yes yes one of them bristly knives whatever you knew what i

was talking about we didn't know what you're talking about so that's so then they're like okay let's try to get this guy skip we think he might be the killer so they put a wire on al al once again goes back out to the gay bars then picks up skip they go back to a hotel room that al rented um and they're there they began to have sex there are two cops stationed in the car outside yeah well they can i they're like undressing or whatever let me articulate this Neanderthals thought here. They're literally in the bedroom talking and then for whatever reason, the wire that Al Pacino disconnects.

And so they immediately rush into the building. Well, the cops outside, the cops are outside. They're hearing mostly static, but then there're you know clips of al being like should i can you tie me up and put me on the bed like he's trying again trying very hard to get murdered that's too weird man but you know what the one thing that happens after you get tied up and put on the bed is that you get stabbed in the back like that's not anyways so the cops of course i think assume that that might be happening so they rush in they knock on the

door um and they open it and al pacino is naked ass up hands hog tied behind his back and then they they bring both skip and al into an interrogation room i know this is the third time i've said it but this is the best moment this scene is so funny okay they're just like they're like listen listen up you faggots we know you're killing each other they are so mean to them it's so illegal what they are doing i know it's a movie but i'm like this is like nine different lawsuits they the one of the critical things that like one of their biggest tactics to try to scare out of particularly uh what's his name not uh skip okay they're trying to get the information out of skip al pacino's just going with it pretending to be another scared gay guy and they bring in a uh naked giant black man uh he has a little yeah and a jock strap he's wearing

a cowboy hat and he comes in in the middle of the scene unannounced there's no there's like no information that opens the door it's dead silent it's like a fucking it's filmed like a wes anderson movie like the way that it's done it seems like it's the first black person you see in the entire movie basically exactly it literally is and i think the only black person that's in the movie he walks in and just slaps the shit out of al like so hard so funny it's so funny freaking out he's like who the hell is that i felt the same i'm like what the fuck is going on why it isn't like almost naked black guy just walks in for me that's the moment the first time i was watching this movie where i'm like this is one of the best movies i've ever seen this is like i cannot believe what i just saw so then

they separate the two it just goes off it's just like just so quickly that they're just like and it's almost like they're making fun of them while it's happening like just so quickly that they're just like and it's almost like they're making fun of them while it's happening oh totally they are they're like they're gonna break this i'm gonna break the fag literally and so they separate the two they bring alan to another room and alice like why the fuck did you slap me so hard and the black guy who we you know can now assume is a cop in on it yeah says nothing he doesn't even like respond he's like so al pacino responds by throwing his cowboy hat off of the top of his head out of the window into the alleyway that's a gateway if the guy punches you way too hard

you know like and you flip his hat that was kind of of baller i i respect that it's pretty gay it is it's a baller but it is like it's what i would do i wouldn't punch that guy i would like like knock his hat off um and so then they they continue to interrogate skip they're clearly i mean what i thought they just have a lot of pressure on them to like nail a suspect and like whatever kind of gay guy we can get let's just get one of them they try to pin it on skip and the keep in mind they have fingerprints they have the killer's fingerprints and so what they do they already know now they and they did like a semen analysis on cum that was found in one of the dead bodies earlier and they're like there's no sperm in this semen the killer shooting blanks that's something they said early on during that scene is like maybe he had a

vasectomy oh so wait and so they say they're like okay let's do that let's do a ball test on this talking about skip fill the sink and if they float he's got spermia if he doesn't float exactly which they do you're doing the like salem witch trial test to this gay guy's balls spermia if he doesn't float exactly which they just bring they're doing the like salem witch trial test to this gay guy's balls to see if he has sperm and they're like well let's make him jack off in front of us and then let's make see if his balls float in a sink um and they again they have fingerprints there's no reason they need to do a ball test. Yeah. I mean, this movie is a realist.

It's just the horniest movie. It's just the horniest movie you've ever seen besides The Mask. It's hella horny. So Al, then he goes home to his girlfriend, not to his Pietaa-terre and christopher street and his girlfriend is like what the hell is going on you know he's like i don't even care i don't even care anymore and he like takes some orange juice out of the fridge and drinks half of it and spills the rest on the ground and she's like what's going on with you he's like i don't i don't even know and in this scene he seems throughout the movie he's progressively dressing gayer and gayer when

he's off duty like his shirt he's looking like a member of the people by this point like he just used to look like bob the builder before but like after after that 45 minute mark he just goes a full like leather top to bottom he squeaks when he when he like he there's a lot of noise when he talks when he moves he's got this little punk joey ramone looking he's carrying leather wrist bracelets with the little metal studs in them it's like very hot topic 1998 carrying like 17 keys on him he jingles when she walks i love the jingling i think it's very gay that's very old it's seeming very gay and then his girlfriend basically breaks up with him um he then i didn't see that talks to his captain and is like look we just did a

bunch of illegal shit to this gay guy who is not the killer. And he is like, I can't do this anymore. I can't handle it. Well, the cat that goes like, well, you think you're going gay? You think you're liking this job a little too much, man? Is that what you want out? You're uncomfortable? Al responds to that by just saying, quote,

things are happening. Stuff is going down. And quote, I can't deal with it. He's like, I'm not scared, just so you know. Something else is going down and quote i can't deal with it he's like i'm not scared just so you know yeah something else is going on it's like i'm quite i'm questioning this this movie is literally this movie is literally the sexual awakening of al pacino i mean yeah and so the sergeant tells him he can't quit and alice just like okay i guess i'll keep doing this thing that's destroying my relationships and making me go insane um he's like yeah he's like being gay for pay but not even having sex he's

like being gay for honor murdered gay for honor there's no honor he's being gay for he wants to get like a little plaque and uh nypd union uh imagine it goes for him the best it possibly could right he catches the killer this is what happens but imagine best case scenario okay for al he catches the killer and he is lauded as the one guy who who caught the homo killer but he did it by being gay like he would not be everyone would be making fun of him cops would be like oh fag caught the fag like how many dicks do you have to suck to get that guy like there's yeah there would not be much honor in it best case scenario yeah um and so the movie kind of like it goes into this this is like i would say the second half of the movie it kind

of peters out it It really loses traction. It kind of falls off a cliff. The scenes are slower. There's less violence going on per second. It's the post-coital act of the movie. Yeah, but there's no post-nut clarity. I tried re-watching it this morning and I fell asleep after this part.

Yeah. The reason why... then they actually have to find out like after you're done with all the drama you actually have to find out who the killer is and like that's not the point of this movie well he finds out in like one second and then he like by like looking at the old yeah yeah yeah a columbia teacher yeah he like looks at the yearbook and sees like Adam Driver in it and he's like yo that's the guy this is a gay guy I've seen at clubs before

and so yeah the Columbia professor that was murdered Al finds out that one of his students he's seen at these clubs and so then Al just starts literally stalking this gay guy he does the exact same thing that he did to the other guy to skip yeah yeah yeah he breaks into he breaks into this guy's apartment through the air conditioning vent which

i've had happen before not great um and he just kind of rifles through his stuff and he finds in the supposed killer's closet like 40 letters to his dad um and for whatever reason you're supposed to understand at this point that that the killer's motivation is solely based on daddy issues it's not even clarified there's a background in like there's a scene where the killer the guy that alice scouting um the adam character is walking through a park um and before this you can kind of assume that from the content of the letters that this guy is crazy because he's writing the the content of these letters were like i saw a big black mass at the at the park today i think i'm having a breakthrough you can kind of okay like this guy's like off the

rails he finds so much like creepy drawings al finds like creepy drawings in his room and so then the killer goes into the park in probably a fit of schizophrenia and has a um a hallucination of his father and his dad is sitting there this like just old ass white guy is there. And he's like, you got to do it. You got to do it. Say that. Say I made you do it. And the thing that the killer says every time he kills a gay guy is, quote, you made me do this in the Batman voice. He says it was very.

It was it was obviously very inspired slash taken from friday the 13th jason vorhees with the friday the 13th killer such a hallucinations of his mom saying kill them michael or kill them what jason but yeah that was so i was so disappointed so i was like yeah it is really lazy it's just like a lazy non-gay guys are fucked up by their dads which like yeah but like in really interesting and like like and like very variable ways um and in no way in no way does it like communicate that it was so bad that it would drive this guy to kill a bunch of gays you know the best part about any horror movie is finding it's finding out like an interesting motivation yeah yeah like don't even don't your daddy like give me a fucking

break you fucking columbia trust fund baby little at this point that this is just al pacino just trying to get out of uh like having this assignment. If he finds a killer, no matter who, he just needs to find out if there's a fucked up gay guy who may have any connection to any of the other victims and be done with it. I guess it's just the point of these scenes,

but it's just so boring. Can I say something really inappropriate also? Where is AIDS in this movie this is pre this is pre-aids this is like 78 they had it in 77 78 pre-aids this is before the aids became yes this is before it happened the pandora's box that had blonde plinks in it when this happened when these leather when the first blonde man walked into one of these leather bars that created aids um they're like finally a bottom is here so this all comes to

a head where um the killer comes back from having this um kind of hallucination of his out in the park he pulls out two leather boots from his closet pulls out the knife from the boot puts them on and then he goes out cruising al follows him cruising at night they walk into a park they hook up um al is about to go down on the killer when the killer pulls out a knife and then al stands up and stabs him and incapacitates him before the killer could stab Al. It was a very boring fight.

It was a really boring fight, Max. That whole scene, it's like a role reversal too because the killer is the one who's afraid of Al Pacino because Al Pacino has gone full psycho at this point and is just like being gay. Extra clammy is extra nasty

he's looking very clammy being a sexuality is a spectrum that goes from straight to murderer so then the next scene the killer is in the hospital bed of course he wasn't killed by the stab from Al Pacino.

One of the cops is just... When did that happen? I must have really... The dabs had taken some really successful blows to your consciousness. I'll be honest. I was looking at bootleg Telfar bags from China

from AliExpress. They're selling them on Kinaw Street. I can buy you a fake telphar bag please yeah well i already okay it's gonna cost you three hundred dollars marked just under the price of a real one um so uh yeah they're like we have the fingerprints from the quarter it's this guy he's in the hospital bed the killer has been found um really boring climax but then there's a twist which i think kind of muddies the water as to whether or not the killer is the killer um al while this is happening he breaks into the maybe did he break into his neighbor's apartment before he killed the killer?

No, no, no. He breaks in before when Gregory's in there, when James Remar's in there, and he's like, James Remar, but then leaves. They have this sassiness also like an incomprehensible

action. It's only there to show that Al is like completely losing his mind. He breaks into his neighbor's Ted. He breaks into his apartment and gets into a huge fight with Ted's boyfriend who has yet to have been in the movie. He was out writing musical or something.

He's a dancer named Gregory Millenates, which is such a fun... It's like naming a dancer... It's like being a dancer named like Johnny Parmesan it's a sassy aioli honestly he is the only

like kind of his character is like the most baseline level gay of the whole entire movie he's a theater he's like how dare you and he's like a victorian era he literally he's virtually the hottest person in the movie

normal gay guy in that is the only normal gay guy i mean this is the only purview we get into like musical theater gays as opposed to like leather uh like those are the real perverts that's what the movie is musical theater gay that is true oh yes dissertation on the origins of musical theater columbia to study the origins of musical theater is so funny i'm sorry it's like the most gay serial killer thing you could do i'm like i'm sorry i don't believe this judy garland researcher is out here killing people come on so al has a psychotic break where he he he forces his way into his neighbor's apartment he's looking for ted but then of

course gets into a huge fight with his boyfriend ted isn't there why is al looking for ted who knows so then yeah they want to fuck they want to fuck. They want to consummate this. He's obsessed with Ted. And then the whole thing I talked about earlier where he killed the killer happened. He wants to make sure he's gay or not gay. That's so hot. But after the killer has been fingered, the cop is the sergeant, Al's boss,

is then called to another murder scene of a gay guy. It is that neighbor. It is that neighbor, Ted, who has been found dead in a bathroom the killer could not have done it he was in custody who could have done it al is kind of missing right and then he he did he showed up at karen allen's place karen allen came home and he was shaving in the bathroom and he's like hey we're dating again just so you know i'm done being gay hey i'm gonna give you eight yeah and she's like great i'm gonna give you great so she's like so happy to have you back honey there's no yeah she just

basically says okay fine so then and then begins to start putting on his glasses but it's the killer's costume that she puts on yeah she puts on the little Tom of Finland cop hat and the leather jacket and the aviators. And then it's like, oh, was Al Pacino the killer? And then the movie ends. Yeah, he becomes the killer at the very end of The Last Guy. Ironically, a very gay ending to a great film. Very gay.

And a strong beginning. It was the ending it was a crazy so this was crazy yeah this movie i can't imagine it's wild i can't imagine that this movie was that commercially successful but was it in circulation widely throughout theaters it's like william friedkin Al Pacino's big name. Let me see how much... The Exorcist was big. If this is his movie after The Exorcist.

I'm sure it had a big release. This is my thing. I just really wish the movie had some kind of better reason that he was killing gay people. Same, yeah. I wish there was obviously an undertone of self-loathing.

There was obviously some kind of undertone of self-loathing gay people that just hate being gay or whatever. I agree. I'm going to clarify and say that that is a very reasonable realistic, I guess you know having a mean dad

having a mean dad could make you kill people I mean if you are schizophrenic like someone like that you know like there's no there's no telling there's no reason why it has to be like a gay exclusive thing but like I don't know fuck it like stranger things have happened but it's just such a boring thing

like detail to it you don't have reality to play with in this case like it's a it's a movie like the rules don't apply it could be about anything why is it the mean dad yeah it's such a cop out it's like a total cop out yeah it makes me want to be molested come on like i know how to be molested or something there's just they just do they do the same thing but even lazier like the the killer has uh like hallucination where his dad is like whip the thing out take it take your willy out no one's gonna believe you if you tell anyone he hallucinates his dad and his dad comes in like

i'm back from my business i'm back from the navy I'm back from my business trip I'm back from the Navy I'm glad to be back here in America I miss Thailand so much His dad is just Carson Kressley That would have been cooler He's like the worst gay in the world and he's my papi.

Hello, son. My boy. I would love to see... We're going to Majorca. I would love to see this movie redone today in a kind of like due date, Pineapple Express kind of style.

Seth Rogen. Seth Rogen? Seth Rogen, yeah. Judd Apatow interpretation of cruising? Yes, yes, yes, yes. I honestly love anything that Judd Apatow does. A Wes Anderson interpretation of cruising would also be pretty good. It was really late.

It was probably like 4 a.m. when I finished cruising last night. And I was like, damn, I got to watch a nancy myers movie just to kind of clear this my palate just kind of bring me back down i had to watch it's complicated so i mean i didn't get to bed till six cruising was too scary too scary okay this is the thing and people can make fun of me a lot but like things that are not that scary that movie legit scared me and i was

like sleeping in bed with someone so i should have been scared the first scene was really scary the first scene is terrifying it's like one of the like scariest murder scenes like in a totally yeah really because it felt the actor being murdered the actor being murdered yeah looks like he's actually being killed yeah i mean overall pretty good movie the behind the scenes some funny stuff that happened is like william friedkin is like so i knew i wanted to do cruising and i was like i only watched like the first 20 minutes of it but like he was like i knew i wanted to do cruising so i got a bunch of these guys that i knew that would have been able to help and it's just like all these cops that like helped him on the french connection it's like yeah i was like

i gotta be i i'm like yeah i could tell you all about this stuff and it's like all literally just all cops like no gay people whatsoever involved at all and like he's like the one cop was like you know i had to go undercover as a gay guy for a while you know and uh you know all this stuff you know the 250 pound black officer uh jockstrap you know all this stuff that really happens it's like what the fuck they don't do that anymore man listen this this is why this is why black lives matter is taking away uh oh my god representation in police yep that's why oh my god gay lives matter cruising lives matter yeah yeah i wrote something really funny oh go Oh, go ahead. I was watching this movie and I was like, this is a really weird way

to tell me that blue lives matter. Yeah. That cop scene where the club cop scene... The dicks I sucked for this badge. How many dicks you think I sucked to be the sheriff of NYPD? There's like a photo in the behind the scenes thing too

that's really funny of William Friedkin like in a leather bar wearing a shirt that just says The Exorcist on it. That's so cool. That is like what queer people in Bushwick wear now. Yeah. Like for the

XXLTs. He was ahead of his time. Literally whatever horror movie promo t-shirt he was wearing is now worth $700 on eBay. And someone in Bushwick with daddy's or mommy's money is buying it. All the straight guys here wear those when they're not wearing wearing soccer jerseys.

They're wearing Gremlins 2 t-shirts and shit. I got so addicted to the dangerous world of buying vintage t-shirts. There's nothing more dangerous than getting into eBay and buying vintage t-shirts. It's worse than heroin or dabs it's way more addictive the strongest drug um do we have any final words on the movie i would recommend it it's fun it's a fun obviously i it's a great movie overall you left you're left a little bit

with nothing at the end. But, yeah. It was great. I mean, honestly, I prefer Showgirls or something like that would have been a lot better. You gotta come back and roll to Showgirls. I want more movies. In the eternal words of the New York

Times culture team, it's a fun romp. It's a romp and a rave folks yeah it's worth a lot for sure yeah i already said this already but one of the best lines from the movie was one day this whole city will explode which was literally a 9-11 prophecy. 9-11 premonition, exactly. I love being a 9-11 truther to the degree that you're like, cruising predicted this. Someone on cruising knew this was

going to happen. That part in Hyper Normalization where they're showing all the movies and like where stuff in New York is exploding and it's a clip of cruising. It's the fisting scene. Four seconds of a guy like putting Crisco all over his forearm. Oh, my. And the middlemen of society knew a big collapse would be coming.

The face that the guy who's getting fisted is making is so like. It's so funny. It's so stupid because the face he's making, he's getting a pinky inside of him. He's like. It's very funny. It's so stupid because the face he's making, he's getting a pinky inside of him. He's like, ooh! It's very dainty. He's too dainty for getting... I was so pissed when I saw it.

I was like, come on, man. Just wiggle around a little bit at least. There's not accurate enough fisty representation in this film. I was like, look like you're getting fisted or don't do it when the gay guys are protesting it Jacques would be a guy there holding a sign this is what you look like when you get fisted I'm just gonna

have to guess that fisting in the 1980s was really you know 2D or low tech or whatever. Low tech fisting, exactly. They haven't figured out how to get the thumb in yet. I don't know.

They're going like this. The swan dive technology. Okay, with that, should we wrap? Yeah, I think this is a good place to end. I'm going to see if I have any other notes or any last news stories to say. Thank you for having us. Are you a New Yorkian? Yeah, I'm a New Yorker.

What do you do in life? What do I do in life? Yeah, do you have any? This is now transitioning into a Terry Gross-style interview. I just wanted to know. I'm sure the listeners out there want to know who you are, because I don't know.

Yeah, I'm on Twitter at Sirisu Camu. I do, you know, I wrote a movie that's coming out soon. That's just going to be announced soon. But I can't talk about it. Oh, you can be announced soon. But I can't talk about it. Oh, you can't say the name. I can't talk about it yet. So you're a screenwriter? Yeah. Cool. Okay.

She's working on the new Marvel Iron Man 5. I'm from Buffalo originally. Okay. That's all the questions I have. Thank you all for listening thank you all for listening thanks so much for coming on hesa thanks for having me bye guys you got you guys tune into our episode with patrick

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