Segments - 243: Morning After Trump

Episode Date: November 9, 2016

Bonus non-advice episode in which we decompress and discuss Donald Trump beating Hillary Clinton to become the next president of the United States of America. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. All right. Special. Special? Unique, at the very least. Episode of our podcast wherein we don't give advice. We just talk to each other about what happened. Because this is what I need right now.

Yeah. A little bit selfish. Don't know how interesting it'll be to listen to but at the very least it'll be helpful to discuss and digest maybe people will wake up and feel like i did like they didn't want to watch the news or read a paper uh they just want to like do nothing listen to music so i guess we are going to talk about it yeah but at least it's like we can all have a conversation without wanting to talk about what just happened it'll be more hopefully therapeutic than informational uh so we're talking about the election the results of the election today's wednesday november 9th it's also cool to have this time capsule of this like

conversation we're about to have because uh i'm sure we'll get desensitized or numb to it at a certain point we won't remember exactly how we felt the morning after. So in a selfish way, it's fun to capture this conversation. Yeah, that's nice too. So I guess the basic, the beginning of it is just what were you doing? Like what were you doing when it happened? Where were you? Well. Before we get into any analysis.

Yeah. Just the facts. I was here at the office we were watching together yeah it was honestly it felt celebratory yeah this was like a pre-party yeah there was i mean i i had a beer i was relaxed we ordered sushi yeah and everything's everything was fine and like hillary was leading in Florida, so we felt somewhat confident. We're like, this is crazy. If she wins Florida, it's over.

Leading in Florida and North Carolina. Is it over if she wins Florida? Is that it? It's only 5.30 p.m. in L.A. Honestly, I was worried because I was like, well, then I'll have to go home so early. I've been enjoying this. Yeah, it's like a lot of sports metaphors in my head. But like when your team's up by a lot, you're like enjoying it.

But you're like, it would be fun if it was a little closer, you know, just to like get my dick twitching a little bit. Let's have some fun with it. Our dicks were chopped off. Yeah. It went from like a nail biter to a stomach punch. So then things started to go sour when Florida, you start to realize that Florida was trending in Trump's favor. Yeah, I think I really started feeling nervous. Because as Florida was coming in, they were saying like, this is like all to be expected. This is matching the 2012 map.

Right. Like Miami or Broward County hasn't put in their votes yet. Yeah. So you're thinking like, okay, well, she might come back and win Florida. But then I remember just looking at Virginia, which was supposed to be like a clear win for her. Yeah. And they weren't calling it. And they're like, oh, maybe there's this trend that I'm starting to pick up on and everybody else is too.

Because every prediction, every poll seems to have been off by this very dangerous margin. And in a race so close where it's like, we have Ohio plus one, we have Florida minus two. The fact that there was this five to eight point discrepancy, that's like more than everything. Yeah. So all the conversations about like, will Trump concede if he loses? Like, it just seems so, so extraneous now. We should have been like focused on fucking Wisconsin. Yeah.

And that's the crazy part. As the results come in, like the states that were a toss-up, every toss-up state went to Trump. And then the states that were firmly Hillary, Trump won by a bit. Yeah. I mean, Ohio was a fucking landslide.

Well, Ohio was never part of her path to 270. Right. Ohio was a bonus. Yeah, that was more of a toss-up but leaning trump yeah leaning trump a little bit um i mean it really was like wisconsin and michigan wisconsin and michigan pennsylvania pennsylvania you can't lost pennsylvania yeah she lost pennsylvania she lost north carolina she lost florida she lost wisconsin did she lose michigan she did she lost miss michigan and was

yeah he didn't he didn't fucking took a shit all over the path to 270 he had states to spare by the end yeah you know what's interesting and this is part of like some weird like self-reflection that i've been doing like i've been picturing in my dreams like a trump or a clinton blowout so we don't have to like yeah we don't have to say like oh our country is really divided or um we don't have to deal with him suing uh whatever and like you know take and litigating his presidency right but then it happened in the reverse yeah like and now you have to you have to reap what you sow you have to you have to deal with the nightmare scenario for yourself rather than like yeah there's nothing i can't put up a fight i can't be like hey recount philadelphia so the next question is why do you

think it happened um like what's the reason why were why was everyone so confident and why was everyone so wrong i think i have no idea why everybody was so confident i guess it seems like they just didn't it seems like trump brought out a lot of new voters maybe uh a lot of like rural voters that were not pulled that weren't pulled that didn't vote for mitt romney because she i think she was getting obama's percentage points in the cities yeah but he was just bringing in people that rural folks i saw that uh there were eight or nine states where trump had double digit percentage gains on romney double digit 10 10 more percent or more voted for him versus Romney. So I think it's two things.

One is like the unfortunate thing. I think a lot of people showed up to just deny Clinton, to just block her because they hate her for whatever reason. People hate Hillary Clinton for lots of reasons, which is pretty lame. The other thing I think is just we discounted how disenfranchised and angry people are. Right. When it seems like that's what everyone is always talking about. They just didn't know to what extent. Yeah.

And I think that's something that it's really hard for me to be like, you know, they were right. They elected their guy. But they did. I i mean we have to listen to those people right if they're half the country more than half or i guess i don't know who won the popular vote still i think it it's leaning towards clinton winning it interesting a little less than half but still that's a lot yeah it is like to ask a question on any poll where it's this close to 50 5050 is nearly impossible. Like the fact that it's so evenly split is insane.

Like there's no reason for it to be this specifically close to 50-50. It seems like 55-45 is so much more likely than like this close. It's like within one or two percentage points of people preferring these polar opposite things. And it's polar opposite because Trump is literally going down Hillary's laundry list and be like, all right, I have to say the opposite of that. I have to say the opposite of that. I have to say the opposite of that. He knew the game of politics, which is funny because he's not a politician more than Hillary. God, he's such a jackass it's it's crazy to me but it it it worked uh somebody on cnn said which i think was the most like telling thing was like uh trump had literally one message

since the beginning since over a year ago the one message was washington dc is bad and i'll fix it and that was it over and over washington dc is bad and i'll fix it and that was it over and over washington dc is bad she's crooked it's rotten drain the swamp it's over it sucks it's bad it's bad it's bad and that was enough to win like everything else didn't matter every debate every like leaked tape was inconsequential it was all just entertainment it was all just like noise around the signal of like washington dc is bad who else thinks so okay it's enough to win right that was it he didn't necessarily say what he would do to fix it he would just say this is bad and i'm an alternative

and it could have been maybe anybody and it maybe would have been any like republican or maybe another republican would have been too moderate or maybe bernie sand maybe would have been any, like, Republican, or maybe another Republican would have been too moderate, or maybe Bernie Sanders would have taken some of the vote because there's enough people who just wouldn't vote for any woman. Right. But the idea that all the debates and all the tapes and all the leaks and all the stuff that all our, like, liberal friends would be like, that's it, this is it, this is the thing that's going to bury him,

this is what's going to hurt him in the polls. I guess, but they did hurt him in the polls and the polls just didn't mean anything. The polls don't matter. But here's the, the polls were like five to what? Five to seven points off most places or something like that? So what about when he was down like 12 points in the polls? It seems like that didn't matter. People like, were they actually, what I don't understand is like the pussy tape comes out the the debates are over like he's just after the garbage debates he's like people vote and they're like oh that was three weeks ago yeah he's all good now yeah i came back came back around

to the guy i can't think that any leak tape would have ruined it for him because like there was like this thought of like oh there's a tape of him on the apprentice using the n-word like if they if that just came out that would bury him i think the message of washington is bad resonates so like blindly with some people yeah people say that they don't care about anything yeah the change candidate always has a better shot that's like obama hope change yeah especially. Especially against back-to-back Democrats. It's hard to win like Democrat three years in a row or three terms in a row. And yet still everybody was like suggesting that like, oh, it's, it's.

Yeah. The polls said like it was going to be a little bit closer than like most people, which I guess most people that we talked to, which is that they're like, don't worry, the polls are wrong in the other direction. It's going to be a landslide. Yeah. Totally wrong. Completely. And then it's like, what a weird, and then it's like the analysis of like, how, what a weird fucking psychological experiment that is, that every single person you respect wants one thing and says it's gonna happen and then this guy that we all dislike is right and everyone else is wrong i felt like this twilight

zone episode when like it's always like trump wins presidency it looked like this weird fucking dystopian mockumentary or like that can't be like and all the people like even just the people surrounding him i hate even more than trump like kelly ann conway rudy giuliani chris christie's up there gloating they all win steve bannon they all win how yeah what is that's a real that's the scenario that we're in that lebron james jay-z and beyonce nothing worth nothing. Obama, Michelle Obama. Yeah, nothing. I think there's this, what I realized last night, which I guess

people thought about or knew about or probably already had this in their mind, was that there's this chunk of America that we don't see at all. They're not on Twitter. They're not on Instagram. They're not on Instagram. They're not on Reddit. They're not even like watching TV or movies. They don't give a shit who Jay-Z is.

They don't give a shit who Beyonce is. All these like people who we think are like everywhere, like everyone loves Beyonce. No, not everyone loves Beyonce. There's 50, however many, 8 million, how many people voted for Trump? They don't even give a shit or know or care who beyonce is jay-z is obama michelle obama milk farmer in uh yeah wisconsin doesn't know who lady gaga right exactly and there's so many of those people that will never ever ever read our tweets or be on these social media apps so like everything we're surrounded by, like, let's say, like, five apps, 10 websites, and they're all just flooded with the people we know. And then there's as many, if not more people that don't subscribe to any of that stuff that also vote that we just didn't even consider because it's like, how could we? We surround ourselves with the 99%. It's like, you know, when they show these electoral maps where it's like, all right, let's go to Philadelphia, 98% have for Clinton. But then if we go to literally every other county, it's red, red, red, red, red. I mean, well, I guess that's because it's their jobs that are leaving.

And they're the ones that are responding to Trump's message of like, anti-trade, closed borders. That's what they want right uh so what i mean what happens now do we actually build a wall is there a deportation force well is this is that shit is this i mean i get nervous thinking about the things that can actually i'm basically going back and forth today between being hopeful and then having a very bleak outlook of the next four years. Yeah. Well, hopeful in the sense that like, all right, like, hey, everybody, we were dealt a crushing blow, but like that's going to unite us the same way that a win would have.

Right. And I think that it's important to reach out to the angry disenfranchised people that elected this guy. I think it is unfortunate that they weren't heard. That like, I don't think Hillary appealed directly to them in the same way that Bernie did. And definitely not in the same way that Trump did. So we forgot about him. We were like, oh, you know what? The black, Latino, the non-white population, the young population, those are the people that, I mean, those are the people that I care more about too in a way. Right.

We thought they were going to elect Hillary. Well, Trump won with white women and white men and with no other gender or race breakdown. And white people have it real good, but we ignored them so maybe we gotta talk to them but then the other thing is like so i feel hopeful that like there's some sort of bridge there like we can we should be working for those people that are sad and upset out there right uh but then the what about like the supreme court what about the uh it's a completely stacked yeah like republican senate house president that's crazy yeah that's and he's made a lot of real fucked up promises yeah like banning immigration and deporting people and all this all the stuff that democrats were complaining about

it's like oh how do we do the thing where you block shit because now i want to do the thing where i don't want him to choose a judge for four yeah four years supreme court vacancy sounds fine all of a sudden yeah now that i think about it it's okay that the president can't do whatever the fuck he wants i was saying that uh the emotions that i guess personally i'm feeling is that like half of it is uh like it's like another sports metaphor i don't hate like the celtics players i hate their fans i don't want them to be happy so it's like i don't necessarily hate trump as much as i do like all of his supporters because like the trump that i see in like old videos and even the trump that gave his speech last night where he's like

we owe a debt of gratitude to Hillary Clinton. I didn't watch. I couldn't. Yeah, yeah. He was like, instead of like gloating, like, yeah, like we took down that criminal. Lock her up. That's right. Like instead of like double downing, he was like, or doubling down. He was like, we, he's like, first and foremost, we owe a huge debt of gratitude to Hillary Clinton.

She's worked tirelessly for the American people. Like for that, I thank her. It's like, wow. Like, I think that's what you really think. The problem is all of his supporters, those are the people I wanted to see sad. Like when I was thinking about a Hillary victory, I was like going straight to like Donald Trump's subreddit and just like reading all the, all the, the loud mouth, racist, angry people. Cause I'm like, those are the ones I want to be wrong. Those are the ones I want to laugh at. Those are the ones I want to gloat in front of. And those are his supporters that I don't want to connect with at all.

Yeah, and those are the ones who are the happiest now. And that's what feels like the most Twilight Zone thing is because I visited that page and I've seen their things and it's like, in the back of my mind, I'm like, don't worry. Their day will come. They'll realize that they're fucking supporting this huge loser. They're not going to win the election. Oh, I can't wait to see their faces when they realize they're not going to win.

And they did. So it's like half upset and angry that he won. And then it's half mad that he won and half sad that Hillary lost. Because like there was somebody that was working 30, 40, 50 years for this one goal. And then like all the women and children in my lives were like, we're going to have a woman president finally. And because she lost, I don't see how we trot one out in the next four, eight, 12, 16. Like when do we ever bring out another lady candidate after like what happened i don't know it seems like the if we ever get to do it it's got to be like two women in the in the present in the race right to make it fair or something yeah like we we already trotted like hillary out and she lost to somebody we all considered vile yeah so like what were what would her chances be against like a normal white man? I don't know. Maybe they are better because it's what they liked about Donald Trump was that he was an outsider and that he was going to bring change.

Right. So maybe like somebody, maybe somebody like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren or something like that, that duo could have, they could have touted the same message. Yeah. I would love to go back in time and just experience an alternate dimension where Bernie runs against Trump just to see what happens. Bernie runs against Rubio? Who would you think – in your heart of hearts, do you think Bernie could have beaten – or would have beaten Trump? I know he could have beaten Trump. Yeah, I think he would have beaten Trump because I don't think –

You would have bet on Bernie. I would, because I think that Bernie would have won all of the cities that Clinton won. And I think he also would have knocked a couple of the counties that Trump ran away with. Yeah. And I mean, Bernie won the primary in Michigan. Right. So I think there's at least a chance that... He went to Michigan. I bet it would have been closer.

Yeah. It would have been closer. I mean, Hillary already won the popular vote is the crazy part. But I feel like I would have... I mean, I literally did bet on Hillary because I thought I was so confident. I guess that's the only good thing that came out of this election. I lost cash. You lost $200.

It's pretty funny. That's really funny. But knowing what I know now i would say trump would have beaten anybody like people were voting for change in trump and they didn't really consider who the alternative was i don't think like all the email stuff god it's so meaningless now like just the comey letter yeah everything just meant nothing like these people that we don't even think about don't even poll about had made up their minds years ago like and it's got to feel like one bad for hillary obviously but two you got to feel a little bit bad if you're obama it's like yeah hillary lost because nobody wanted four more

years of you like that he must be like pretty disappointed upset about that fact that he could like if he was doing better, four more years of Obama. He's got one of the highest approval ratings of any sitting president. Yeah, but again, I feel like there's just this... It's only 55, so it's not... Again, every poll I feel like is just polling these cities. Like, nobody's reaching these people that I think maybe don't have phones.

You know, maybe trump was right when he said the polling was rigged oh i guess that's true i don't think it was rigged but it seems like it didn't take into account uh one these are all things that i tweeted last night one the shame of admitting that you're voting for trump you can't you can't account for it like literally getting on a phone and telling somebody you're voting for trump i think there was a few percentage points of people that like couldn't do that and still voted for him anyway. And two, people that legit don't give it like answer poll phone calls.

Well, we tried phone banking for Hillary. People don't answer their phones. Yeah. I think the people that don't answer their phones is enough to tip the election hugely, bigly, bigly in Trump's favor. So that's the reaction. But what about silver linings? I genuinely think that one silver lining

is that Trump is going to lay waste to Republicans and Democrats alike in Washington. He's got no support from the gop like it was chris christie rudy giuliani and rance previs and those are his three best friends and he's i mean i want i want to see the feckless coward uh paul ryan out of there yeah i want to like i i do want to see all these republicans who like unendorsed him that re-endorsed him then uh then wouldn't endorse him but said they'd vote for him yeah and then like i'm not going to talk about him i won't defend him but i'm going to vote like

they were just trying to hedge their bets yeah i want you know i voted for you dude and i want trump to hold a grudge against those people and fucking get them out of there so now you want to be out like on trump's side against the gop like ride that way for a little bit yeah i i really despise the fact that trump won but now that he's there i do like i do want to see him lay waste to the Republican Party who let this monster into the house. Yeah. Like, they've made their bed, and now Trump gets to fucking it. That's good. That's a good silver lining.

Another one is that everybody seems to be, like, rallying, like you said. Like, a national tragedy happened, and now, like like you know the pendulum has to swing in this for like everything to like swing in the other direction soon so like maybe we were getting a little bit too apathetic a little bit too like listen everyone loves obama right jay-z beyonce we're good we don't have to like work that hard uh and now that trump's in power uh if anything goes poorly which it seems like there's a high probability that it will look at the market we lost a lot of money today buddy you got a 401k now you have a 202k all right uh it seems like that's just like when obama was in office and everybody will have a right to complain and the change will now be a change back to maybe more liberal policy.

Yeah. It's kind of curious to think about the 2020 election. Like, imagine Trump running for re-election. And those usually happen within, like, two years. Yeah, we'll know pretty soon. You think Hillary Clinton is going to run again? No, never, never never no way never impossible that's one of the sad things about it like you don't you don't run and lose this

bigly uh and then get to do it again yeah i mean she tried so hard she tried so hard and she got more votes it looks like she's gonna get more votes that's a weird fucking thing to me that's all right i'm losing the silver lining thing that's so fucking ridiculous should we just get rid of the electoral college it should be a fucking american idol voting what's the point what's the point of the electoral college like what is that it evenly distributes like power in the states but still like california has more electoral votes than wy. It should just be to such a scale. Yeah. Or it should be like, you know, you can split.

Like, the fact that... Do they ever readjust it? Like, if there's a growing population in California, would we ever get, like, 56, 57 electoral votes? Yeah, I think you get more based on a population. So they assign them randomly every year? I don't think it's randomly. Or not randomly, but do they reassign them every year? Every election season? I don't think it's randomly. Or not randomly, but do they reassign them every year? Every election season? I don't know.

But it seems like it's kind of silly to split Florida. Like, Trump wins by 60,000 votes or whatever in a state, and then he gets 29 electoral votes and Hillary gets zero. Like, that shouldn't be. Yeah. You don't get to get all of them for winning by a little. But I guess you might as well just do popular vote at that point't be. You don't get to get all of them for winning by a little. But I guess you might as well just do popular vote at that point.

Right. Well, you should do popular vote. Yeah. Most people in the country want one person. And she gets to win. Of course. Another silver lining is there's a world where Trump isn't actually like the person that he said he was. Like, he, again, I keep going back to like, pretty level headed interviews I've seen with him before the election, where he didn't have to appeal to these people that voted for him, where he like, you know, seems to be rational,

level headed, a little bit humble. And maybe that's the trump that we'll see in office i guess i hope so but at the same time like he has surrounded himself by like with like fox news analysts and breitbart news people yeah so i worry that he's like completely changed hopefully he lets somebody like ivanka uh take the reins from him or something it's also kind of dangerous. It's like, now what do you hope for the next four years? Do you hope that Trump proves us all wrong and is an awesome president and is great for the people? Or do you hope he fails miserably

and a lot of people suffer from it? It's hard not to be vindictive. I would like him to embarrass himself consistently, leave the office in shame, but have it not be quite as bad as we all thought. Right. Similar, I mean, if you think about George Bush left with like an abysmal approval rating, the Great Recession, like he did a lot of really fucked up damage.

So hopefully Trump doesn't fuck shit up that bad yeah but i would like him to make some uh major gaffes i want him to have a hard time yeah that's part of that's one of my silver linings is that being the president's a very hard job that i don't think he's ready for yeah that'd be fun and i don't think he's ready for it in a lot of like in some of the major ways but then in all a lot of like the tiny little specific ways i think he's ready for it in a lot of, like, in some of the major ways, but then in a lot of, like, the tiny little specific ways. I think he's going to look dumb a lot. Look dumb a lot. And also he's lost the respect of, like, the states he would ever want to live in after.

Like, the fact that he got booed at his polling site, lost by a landslide in California. He doesn't have a lot of places to run to after he's done. Wisconsin. Yeah. He can always move to Kentucky, Wyoming, and Indiana. Those states are going to bleed red for him, true and true. He can summer in Hopkinsville, Kentucky.

Oh, God. I'm going away from the silver lining thing, but I really fucking hate Mike Pence. I hate that he's... Oh, yeah. The fact that, like, that he also, he introduced Trump, and he's, like, just so happy.

He's like, this guy almost left Trump, like, right after the pussy tapes. Like, he he's like, he's like just so happy. He's like, this guy almost left Trump like right after the pussy tapes. Like he was like considering like just abandoning ship at that point. God, if he did. I wonder if, well, whatever. Any other silver linings? I fucking could not. Did you sleep well last night? I didn't sleep for very long because I had to wake up early.

So I slept for about four hours. One sleep cycle. That's good. Is there any sense of relief that the election is over? I was trying to... Yeah, I think there is. Like, we don't have to read stories that don't seem to matter, listen to debates that don't seem to matter.

Like, digging up these emails, like... I'm tuning out for a little bit. I was fucking all in on political podcast and 538 forecast and yeah i'm gonna i listen to music for the first time it's pretty good in a while music's actually not bad yeah it was uh there was a song it's so good that i shouldn't have to fuck for free there's a new song that i was doing on the radio that was good. It was called Gold by Kiara. Have you ever heard that song? I don't think so.

Yeah, I'll play it for you after. I think you'll dig it. I mean, I was trying to think, too, of my memories in the last few years. And I was just thinking of positive. I was thinking about my cousin pete's wedding in maine yeah i was like did i think about the president at all that weekend i don't think i did that was nice all right so like family vacation in antarctica i don't think i was thinking about the president you think about you do not think about the president quite as much as

you think you do around election time yeah Yeah, like in the next two years, we're going to be thinking about Trump a lot less, I think. In the last year, we haven't thought about Obama. Yeah. We've only been thinking, I mean, I guess in the next election cycle, we'll still be thinking about Trump. But like, it seems to matter way more during the campaign. Can you get your $100 back?

I ended up donating $130. Yeah, can you get that? Is that refundable if she doesn't end up carrying Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania? I very much doubt it. You know what's funny? It's like during the phone bank thing. It's like, call these battleground states of Ohio, Arizona, Florida. I should have fucking called Wisconsin, man he fucking went deep he's

like i don't want the swings i want the fucking likelies i want the leaning blues and he took him yeah i did his ass took him uh what else was i gonna say we're almost pretty much not new hampshire though yeah she won new hampshire that's exciting new hampshire vermont basically anywhere in the northeast trump uh trump can't go back to that's a that's another silver lining but that i mean that map is such a dismal sign for whoever's thinking whatever democrats thinking of running in 2020 who could possibly be like who is it even close to being b Bernie's gonna be too old, I would think. Yeah, I don't think it's gonna be Bernie. I think it's gonna be somebody like some young gun, like

Cory Booker. That'd be exciting. Like an Obama 2.0. Yeah. That'd be nice. We'll see. Fuck, maybe I'll do it. What? Oh, The Rock! Oh, shit. That's another good thing. Alright right another silver lining uh

certainty is dead there's no more like rules in politics like we don't know anything so like all bets are off like you don't even have to be a fucking politician nobody thought the rock was gonna win a year ago he was probably like a million to one shot so like yeah the rock is oh you just said the rock could win yeah i. I think you meant to say Trump. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Nobody thought Trump could win. You're already living in this dream future that we both created. If you smell! God.

What's your policy on immigration? It doesn't matter what your policy on immigration is. Oh, I love him. Dwayne! Mr. Johnson! twain mr johnson imagine what how how awful the tapes to come out about him would be that would get us to not vote for him they don't exist just like just like how we would just like how we can't believe people would dismiss the pussy grabbing video i do want like what if more tapes come out now yeah let's fucking let's let it out let's as an in a nihilistic approach of like nothing

matters anymore let's just fucking open the floodgates of uncertainty let's as an in a nihilistic approach of like nothing matters anymore let's just fucking open the floodgates of uncertainty let's see what what else is in there like maybe trump can start openly talking about the shit that he's been doing it's like yeah all right the plane thing was right that actually did happen well i've at a certain point he gets you would talk impeachment oh interesting but he it doesn't seem like he actually he would would be fine with it. Like he won. In his mind, I think that he's like, this is great. I won. Like, I don't need to be president. I wanted to win the presidency. I see. I'm trying to, this is another slight silver lining that might be too reachy, but there's a possibility, somewhat remote maybe, of him getting impeached. Like, he could do something that would result in him being impeached but that's not good then wouldn't pence become the president yes which is really bad pence is worse pence i would say pence is worse yes okay pence is actually religious pence is

actually homophobic pence is actually xenophobic whereas trump just said the shit to win the shit i mean i think that i i i don't know if he's like a totally cool guy that just said racist xenophobic shit to win like maybe he is but even that's not like that great of a quality no it's not that great but it does leave the door open to him getting in there being like all right new rules none of that shit was real uh don't worry i'm going to actually change shit. Right. Well, I guess the one thing is that we really have no idea what's going to happen. That's kind of interesting.

At the very least, it's horrifying, but it's... It's liberating. It's intriguing. I'm done. Like, next election cycle, I'm not fucking looking at polls. I'm not, like, listening to debates. Like, really, it did not matter at all. I wonder if I can care again. like i'm not fucking looking at polls i'm not like listening to debates like it really it didn't it did not matter at all i wonder if i can care again i cared about this election so much

i wonder what the next thing i'll give a shit about it i don't know i just i mean about politics like i remember i cared a lot during 2008 and 2012. But I don't think I cared this much. No, I don't think so. I mean, this was everywhere. God, and it meant so little. It was already over. It was like the election happened a year ago, and then it's like a year of entertainment i am i'm i oh god i'm mad at the media but i don't quite understand why

because it actually he actually did win i remember as they were reporting stuff i was getting really mad i was like you guys are only report like the cities haven't i haven't given their counts yet yeah you're fear-mongering you're just doing this for ratings i didn't believe a lot of the stats like i was doing some quick math where it was like 16 of the uh reports in broward county and she's up 300 000 already i'm like that doesn't make sense because then like if she's only a sixth in and up 300 000 that like extrapolated over the whole county she would be up over a million in that county well i think because different counties have different populations so there's uh this percentage of the precincts or whatever reporting uh-huh but like they can be precincts that are reporting like

outside of the biggest populations that percentage wasn't necessarily total votes it was just no that was the percentage within the county yeah exactly that's how they get you. I think anyway. Right. It does a little bit feel like all of society and all of the last 2,000 years has been leading towards like a celebrity president. Like every little thing for the past like 100 years of like back to like whenever like the show business being created, the idolizing of celebrity, then like reality TV show, the anger of like. Reagan was an actor. Yeah reagan was an actor yeah reagan was an actor and then like the anger of the middle class and lower class and like everything was just leading to the point where donald trump became president yeah president trump that seems like a joke that seems like a dystopian mockumentary made in the 1990s it really yeah it hurts my heart to i had dreamt last night that I was in jail. When I woke up, it turns out it was just shillery rotten. Yeah, that's the, I mean,

it's good to end on a, not a full silver lining because that's not how we feel. We're not completely over it yet. No. Who do you think is the saddest? Is it Hillary? I feel like it's Bill. He really wanted to get back in the White House. Trump? Again, I think this is probably Obama. Barack? Yeah, he was, like, he seems so, he seems, the past, like, six months, he's like, he didn't even want to give Trump the credit of saying his name anymore.

He's just like, listen, guys, like, this guy's, like this guy's like actually gonna win the republican primary like you're embarrassing yourself he's not gonna win the presidency like not on my watch and trump he has to fucking he has to meet with him and like give him like he has to it sounds he has to like almost like kneel down and kiss the ring now yeah obama has to say nice things about trump i wonder i mean we'll see what he says about him and don't they have like a meeting on thursday we're like oh yeah obama they they uh obama called him to congratulate him they don't know what he said but they called they had a call and it's all it's all like the respect that we were mad that we know trump wouldn't have given now we have to fucking like give it so it's all like the respect that we were mad that we know Trump wouldn't have given. Now we have to fucking like give it. So it's like, well, you're not going to like, it's all about the peaceful shift of power.

Like that's part of democracy. We have to like, we have to completely hear those rules so clearly. We have to take the high road, Trump. And now that it's on us, it's like, fuck, now we have to take the high road. Now I have to be like respectful to Trump. And now we have to like try to work together and like try to give him the benefit of the doubt and all this stuff that we hoped no that he didn't he wouldn't give to the democratic nominee yeah that's something i want i mean i don't know how to do this but i'm gonna try to um be more active and volunteer

and do my part that's like turn this into a good thing yeah and i genuinely i have no idea how to do that yet but as soon as i find out folks i'll let you know yeah and then once jake is doing it that's the trickle-down effect then people are in like not only broward county but ocala clearwater i mean we're getting really into the red states you think that guy's still like tapping on the screen just like for fun what about that one who is that guy god he fucking loved the magic wall whenever they were talking you just see him in the back just like fucking tapping what's this one called oh oh yeah watch this from the american one i bet i can just like tap on like uh right there brown county in missouri oh fuck i missed it uh let's go to you what oh yeah uh shit i was

drawing a dick with the uh dick with the red swing states. I made it pink around Florida, so it looked like a shaft. All right. I love you, Wolf. What a tight name. Cool. That was it. That was us talking about it.

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