Segments - 385: To Doink or Not to Doink

Episode Date: June 3, 2019

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Starting point is 00:02:26 Oh, my mom would hug me too And I'm just Jake, that's cruel If I had a golden mic If I had a golden mic Well, I would be invited back to game night Back up, I'm the doctor, dude, alright If I had a golden mic If I had a golden mic, if I had a golden mic, lonely and horny wouldn't be an exact documentation of my life.
Starting point is 00:02:53 If I had a golden mic, Oh, Jake Hurwitz. If I were you, if I were you, if I were you, if I had a golden mic Like so many turdies on my shelf
Starting point is 00:03:11 If I had a golden mic If I could be anybody else If I had a golden mic All my life would be complete Oh, I know I get the turdy this week For wanting it too bad And you know what? Jake's the man
Starting point is 00:03:33 He gets the golden mic already That's gotta be a record or something Getting the golden mic and the theme song You're the man, Jake Hurwitz And I'm a little turd man Collecting turdies. If I Were You show starts now. Huge.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Wow. Huge. That is a record, right? That's absolutely a record. I'm floored. I'm actually humbled, honored, and chuffed. I'm right cheesed by this. I can't believe I was awarded the golden mic in the theme song.
Starting point is 00:04:05 That's definitely the earliest Eddie mic has ever been given. First time. Nothing's been said yet. It's crazy. Yeah. But so much has been said. It is crazy. So much has been said through the theme song.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I love the idea that sort of my past performance on the 385 shows has sort of like, that's Golden Mike worthy in and of itself. I hate that. That's a dangerous... The streak was worth the award. That's a really dangerous precedent. I don't... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:34 I mean, I just... I think... I mean, the song speaks for itself. There's nothing else to be said. And I appreciate it. And I am humbled by it. And I am chuffed. I really am chuffed.
Starting point is 00:04:46 That was Jordan Holmes, who wanted to give a shout-out to Vikes Improv and Yes Ampersand at the University of Victoria. Last time he submitted a theme song, he told us to visit Victoria, and we mistakenly thought he meant Vancouver, but he actually wanted us to tap into the flourishing fan base of the Canadian island that he currently resides on. Where is Victoria? I guess it's an island off the coast of Canada. Victoria, Canada. I'd love to go. I'm a big fan of Canada.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I'm a fan of Canada. Nice. Thanks. Made even more so by the Toronto Raptors. Yeah, dude. NBA Finals bound. Actually, by the time you hear this episode, two games deep into their first NBA Finals ever. Is it Thursday, Friday, the games?
Starting point is 00:05:29 Thursday, Sunday. Thursday, Sunday. Yeah. Wow, really spreading it out. Yeah, the Finals are more spread out because they only want the games to appear on high TV watching days. Of course. Victoria is near Vancouver. It is indeed an island near Vancouver.
Starting point is 00:05:44 So shout out Victoria. Vancouver deserves a basketball team. They had one. Who was it? The Vancouver Grizzlies. Oh, and then they moved to Memphis? That's right. Then they moved and became the Memphis Grizzlies.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Are there grizzly bears in Tennessee? It doesn't matter. There's no lakes in LA either. There's no jazz in Utah. Sometimes the mascot doesn't change. LA has Lake, Toluca Lake, Silver Lake Reservoir. Yeah, that's what the Lakers are named after, the Silver Lake Reservoir. Where were the Lakers before? Minneapolis.
Starting point is 00:06:15 That makes sense. 10,000 lakes. That's a lot of lakes. That makes sense. We don't deserve to be the Lakers. We're mostly a desert climate. The LA cacti. Actually, I just read this article about how the Raptors were named because they were an expansion team in 1996. So they had like hundreds of names that they were considering that were fan submitted. Then they whittled it down to 10 and Raptors were one of them. And they think that won out because Jurassic Park was so popular in 1993 or 4 that the raptors won out because of that. I mean, that totally makes sense.
Starting point is 00:06:50 There's no world that velociraptors are like a well-known dinosaur without Jurassic Park. That's right. You never knew what a raptor was. A funny runner-up was Sorus Rex. So they'd be called Toronto Sorus Rex. Oh, that's goddamn. If I had been awarded the Golden Mike in the theme song, that's such
Starting point is 00:07:08 a good pun. I think you would have been a contender. So let's just... Let's start the episode over. I'll use the theme song for the next episode. No, we're not gonna do that. Let's not... I don't wanna get bogged down in this. You were close. You were close. I was awarded the Golden Mike earlier. I can't give it to you now. Sorry. But it was fine.
Starting point is 00:07:24 It was a really good pun. Let's just... It wasn't even my pun. I was just... It actually was one of the top 10 options that they were considering. Is that true? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And beavers and tarantulas were also up there. Torontosaurus rex. Yeah, was one of the options. Wow. That's crazy. That is crazy. Oh, and also dragons finished like third or fourth, which would have been cool.
Starting point is 00:07:46 A lot of people are saying with Game of Thrones now, if the Raptors were being named today, Dragons would probably be the Raptors. Oh, definitely. That would be cool. The Toronto Dragons. That was my... Oh, wait. I didn't go to Hampton High.
Starting point is 00:07:59 But the town that I lived in was the Hampton Dragons. Yeah, you might as well go for a huge mythical beast if the mascot doesn't matter. Right, my high school was the Hornets. Yeah. Like, that's not good. That's an insect. Yeah. I mean, they're sort of frightening, but they're not really like, they're not fearsome and ferocious.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Yeah, when you have a chance between a bee and a dragon, why would you choose the bee? Right, you would run towards the bee. In that situation, you run towards the bee. Watch out, it's the bees. They'll make us honey tonight, which is fine, but don't sting me. Honey's one of my favorite foods. What's the worst mascot? I guess probably one of the racist ones.
Starting point is 00:08:41 Yeah, Redskins. The Redskins, yeah. The Indians, that's pretty bad. Those gotta be bad. What about the beavers oregon state is the beavers i mean i think the jazz is really bad the jazz say but like there's like look out the jazz is coming yeah like here comes the jazz you don't know you don't know whether to say like here are the jazz or here is the jazz yeah that's i mean that's definitely not
Starting point is 00:09:02 a good one the jazz are in town the jazz is here terrible it's just music, I mean, that's definitely not a good one. The jazz are in town. The jazz is here. Terrible. It's just music. Yeah, it's really bad. It's not frightening. I guess it could be loud. That's true.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Yeah. And sometimes you really dance like a maniac and that's a little scary. Yeah. Thunder? I love the Thunder. That's a great name. Because it's just an audio. Much like the jazz. Yeah, but I think that the Thunder is kind of fun. That's a great name. Because it's just an audio. Much like the jazz.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Yeah. But I think that the Thunder is kind of fun because it's very OKC. It is like the center of a storm. Right. There's lots of like. What about Magic? That's not even anything. The Orlando Magic.
Starting point is 00:09:38 That's pretty bad. Yeah, I would have vetoed that. If people were like, what do you think of the Orlando Magic? I'd be like, it should be an animal or a thing. Magic is just an idea that you can trick people with sleight of hand right but it also it's a little weird to just make the mascot another like an animal like so there's so many animals like yeah the the chicago bears the grizzlies there's like the cubs there's just like a lot of bear based mascots yeah theins, Boston Bruins It's a little old So I think you gotta go into the
Starting point is 00:10:08 Fantasy Washington Wizards fantasy But that's like not If you're gonna go to fantasy You should call them like the Krakens Why not call them the Kraken I don't know what that is It's like a giant squid
Starting point is 00:10:22 The Washington Giant Squids? No, I said the Washington Krakens. Krakens? Yeah, Krakens. Release the Kraken! Didn't you ever see Pirates of the Caribbean? Yeah, I don't remember. But Kraken, so that means Kraken is plural already.
Starting point is 00:10:40 No, it's one. It is one. A single. He's asking to release one giant squid. I think it would be sort of similar to the thunder. No, it's one. It is one. A single. He's asking to release one giant squid. I guess like, yeah, you would, I think it'd be sort of similar to the Thunder. Like it's, it can mean both, but you really only need one.
Starting point is 00:10:51 It's more of a unit. This team is the Kraken. Because it's also interesting because there's eight players on the court at all times. No, that's not true. What do you thought? If you really, like, if you didn't interrupt me and correct me,
Starting point is 00:11:03 people might've not ever said anything. So you're suggesting that it's eight players on one team at the same time, or it's a four-on-four game? Oh, that's interesting, too. I mean, either one is wrong. I'm just wondering which one you meant. Well, it's eight people on the court if you count the refs. No, if you count the refs, it's 13. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:20 Well, I'm saying. Five-on-five, three refs. So where do you get eight? Well, because it's five players, three refs for each team. Oh, I'm saying. Five on five, three refs. So where do you get eight? Well, because it's five players, three refs for each team. Oh, I see. So you're saying like, you're like one of those sarcastic fans. Like, sorry, we couldn't beat you eight on five. It's like those eight players on your team.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah. So you're. That's not what you meant. You're home. No, it is. No, it really is. It really is. It really is.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Because there's only two refs. So that would be seven. Right. Okay. Well, so I meant. So like it's five players, two refs, and the coach. So that's eight right there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:47 There is three refs. I just keep the exact number to see if you'll call me out or if you know anything. But you don't. No, no. Orlando Octopi. Who says no? I guess the guy, me, who wants to call them the Orlando Kraken. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:12:03 The Basilisks. Huh? A Basilisk. What's that? It's like another fantasy monster. Oh, the Orcs. Orlando Orcs. The Orlando Orcs.
Starting point is 00:12:14 That'd be cool when they played the Wizards. Yeah. Oh, man. God, what a fun fantasy league. Now you can get back into fantasy basketball. You finished second in your fantasy basketball league. I did. Me and Rosie, head to head.
Starting point is 00:12:26 And will you ever play again? No, I will never play again. The mark of a great league is when it's over, you never want back in. I like the guys in the league and everybody's cool, but I don't like fretting. I set my line up multiple times, looking at the waiver wire, proposing trades. It's too much. It's not that fun to me. It's pretty crazy that you finished second despite all that.
Starting point is 00:12:56 Well, because I was so competitive. I really wanted to beat everybody. Oh, so you did play well. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think I did. Every time there was trades proposed, I asked you and Marty. I was constantly like picking up players off the waiver wire. Just trying to like get a volume, get enough games going when I had injuries.
Starting point is 00:13:21 You're more injured than the players that you were subbing out. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'm crippled. All right. This isn't a basketball podcast. That's another podcast I do. This is If I Were You, the only advice podcast on the internet hosted by us.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I'm Amir. I'm Jake. I figured since we're both in the same room, we're hanging out, we should invite one of our other friends to join us. Who? I don't know if you've seen him around since you've been in L.A., but do you happen to know if the Game Boy's any? Oh! Oh, my God. Did you say game?
Starting point is 00:13:58 He's already here. Did someone summon the Game Boy? The Game Boy was under the couch. Oh! He must have been here for three weeks. I've been edging for three weeks waiting for someone to say game. What if we didn't even get to you today, Game Boy? I might have died.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Oh! All right. Well, since you're here, since you're borderline about to orgasm, why don't you try to come up with a word that I can search my email box for, and the point of the game is to find an email that uses that word, but only one email. One email. One email that uses this slightly esoteric word. I will choose the word doink.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Doink. Doink. That's pretty good. D-O-I-N-K. Doink, doink, doink. Doinky doink. Onink. Doink. That's pretty good. D-O-I-N-K. Doink, doink, doink. Doinky doink. Onomatopoeia. Huge if true.
Starting point is 00:14:51 There's only two emails that use the word doink. Wow. Yeah. Not even a spam. This is a true two. Damn. Options are doink thy neighbor as you would doink thyself. Or am I asexual?
Starting point is 00:15:08 Ooh. I guess. I feel like I know both of these questions already. I think we should go doink thy neighbor. Yeah, that's at least a dumb title. Doink thy neighbor written by a lady who we'll call doink. Doink. Doine. Doine. Doine.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Doine. Jolene. Jolene. Jolene. Doine. Doilene. Right. Hi, guys.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Love the podcast. Recently, I went on a Tinder date with a guy where we had a couple drinks, went to his place, and made out. We got along fine. The conversations flowed pretty well, but I didn't think our personalities were compatible. I was pretty indifferent about him after the date in terms of attraction level, and I found him to be slightly annoying.
Starting point is 00:15:54 As we were on the way to his apartment, we found out that he lives on the same street as me about two blocks away. I can tell that he is really into me, and the fact that he is my neighbor would make hookups so convenient. I don't want to give him the wrong idea that I want to be in a relationship, but I'm really intrigued by a friends with benefits situation since we live so close to each other. Should I be upfront about wanting to have a physical relationship even though he seems like he wants to date me legitimately? Or should I tell him that I don't think we're compatible so he doesn't get the wrong idea of my intentions and miss out on potential convenient other doinkage?
Starting point is 00:16:29 Should I do something else? Thanks for your help. Doylene. Doylene, interested in the doinkage. So, wait, so she had a bad date, didn't like the guy, found out he lives close to her, and is now considering having a friends with benefits situation. Just out of sheer convenience.
Starting point is 00:16:47 That's not convenient at all. Why? If you don't like somebody and then you find out that they live close to you, the opposite of what you want to do is like make it more complicated. Because you might see them on the day, on the street. Yeah. It seems like having a bad date with somebody, then finding out they're your neighbor is like, great.
Starting point is 00:17:10 More, we need more distance. Yeah. Not like, all right, we had a bad date. Oh, but damn, you live next door. Let's like, you wouldn't, I don't even know if I would recommend having a hook, like hooking up with your neighbor if you liked them. Although this person lives on the same street, but two blocks away. So not a full neighbor,
Starting point is 00:17:27 just a semi-convenient down the street, two blocks away neighbor. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how lazy you have to be to be like, I need my hookup buddy to live two blocks away. Like 10 minutes in an Uber is fine. Let's see where this person lives. You could be on your phone the whole time.
Starting point is 00:17:44 It's an EDU email address. So I can see it's chicago chicago you're good you're good there's so many people in freaking chicago man but it also gets really cold so like if you want some doinkage you don't want to walk more than 30 seconds i really think on your block there's like there's like 30 more eligible bachelors that you could hook up with. That'd be cool. A Tinder, but for your block, like in a densely populated city. Yeah. But you're like, just show me the thousand people that live with literally on my street. I just think that you don't, I've hooked up with neighbors in the past. And then your entire life is just like you're about to leave and then you hear their keys turning you're like oh nope i'm i've got to stay in and or if they like knock on your door you have
Starting point is 00:18:32 to like be completely silent because you don't want to go to answer it or you're waiting for the elevator and you hear them uh coming so you'll like plank and you have to pretend you're a fucking welcome mat i've dove down a trash chute before. But it was so thin that, like, my body fell down but my head got stuck. And then it turns out my neighbor, who wasn't even the neighbor that I had hooked up with, just needed to, like, throw trash away. But I had to just,
Starting point is 00:18:56 because I thought that my neighbor might walk in, I just opened my mouth and pretended to be a trash can. I was probably a trash can for an hour to avoid my neighbor that I made out with three years before that. Yeah, so I guess I would just not recommend hooking up with somebody because hooking up with someone you don't like
Starting point is 00:19:18 because of close convenience, because that close convenience will turn into a inconvenience. Yeah. This is almost like two cons, but only one pro. Like you find him annoying and he lives close, so it's not worth it. If he lived far away and you found him annoying, you would never see him, then maybe. Or if you liked him or if you didn't find him annoying, but he lived close, then that's fine too. But because it's both of those things, we recommend not doing that. Yeah. It's all negatives. And you're like, but he lives close, then that's fine too. Right. But because it's both of those things, we recommend not doing that. Yeah, it's all negatives.
Starting point is 00:19:46 And you're like, but he lives close, like, which is another negative. If you think about it, this guy I don't like, who likes me, lives close to me. That sounds bad. How quickly can you tell that your personality is not compatible with someone on a date? Are you a quicker?
Starting point is 00:20:01 Or are you like, I don't know, we've only been out once. Right away. Instantly. Yeah, because also, I don't know if we've only been out once? Right away. Instantly. Yeah, because also I don't know if it's like a person. I mean, no, instantly. Yeah, instantly. For like even the hug hello.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I don't think that instantly. Yeah. Usually I could, I mean, I'm married now, so I don't really. You don't date that often. I don't date that often. But you'll still go out. Yeah. Like you'll still like go steady with someone.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Right. So like I deleted Tinder, but I still have Hinge. Hinge for when I'm hitched. That would be an interesting open relationship is you can't hook up with anyone, but you could still go on first dates. Kind of interesting. So it's like I'll still let you do the bad parts of relationships, which is like getting to know someone, but nothing else.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Yeah. I wonder if like, if you had an open relationship where you could go on first dates. Yeah. That would be pretty, like, I don't think I ever would. I'll just get, all you're allowed to do is get two drinks with someone, hug them and say goodbye. But I, I don't, I always liked dating. I never, I think, I hear from people that like are exhausted by it. And that never. You never got fatigued from it.
Starting point is 00:21:09 That never happened to me. I thought, I always thought it was like every time I had a date set, I was like, oh, this, like this could go any way. It'll be kind of interesting. And were your bad dates boring or were they like worse than that? They were just boring. Like I would be sitting with somebody who like i had like um red flags to me it was like i went on one date with somebody who was just like complained about her mom the entire time and i was like i think this is like a negative you you have like maybe
Starting point is 00:21:38 a negative personality or at the very least like you have a bad relationship with your mom and i can't relate to that because I love my mom so much. This is you talking to her. I'm going to stop you right there, but I love my mommy. I think one of the stories she told, I straight up sided with her mom and I didn't say anything.
Starting point is 00:21:54 That's crazy. That's crazy. Damn. But I'm sitting there being like, your mom sounds fine. She sounds cool. You're the problem. And being rude to waiters,
Starting point is 00:22:04 which I never really saw that much. I don't know. I never, I actually, for as long as I was single, I never really had very many bad dates. But you would know whether the personality wasn't compatible within the first date. Definitely within the first date. Were you somebody that would be like, oh, that wasn't great, but I'll see them again and see if I get to like them more. No, I was pretty, I snapped judgmental, guilty until proven innocent. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Yeah. So you would know like within a hug if they were not right for you? Not within a hug, but within like the first three minutes of conversation. Voice, opinion, intelligence, height, teeth, eyes, shoulder. You're talking about you. Because you'd show up four foot nine with no teeth, a single shoulder. I only have one shoulder to cry on. This is me holding up a fucking little notepad.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Very nice. What did you say your name was? Turn around. You look like Picasso. How long is your hair? Holding a ruler. I need it for my journal. Where are you going?
Starting point is 00:23:13 My car's being towed. No, I think all my quote-unquote bad dates were like just an incompatibility thing. This is obviously we're not liking each other, but now we have to, you know, go through 30 to 60 minutes of conversation. Yeah. But I think it's definitely different for girls because there have been, like, I think I talked about this before,
Starting point is 00:23:33 but, like, at least two or three times when I was on dates and the woman would just sort of sigh and be like, oh, thank God you're normal. Yeah. Like, I didn't have to beat a high bar. Well, that's because... Every girl that I went on a date with, just about,'re normal. Yeah. Like I didn't have to beat a high bar. Well, that's because. Every girl that I went on a date with just about was normal.
Starting point is 00:23:49 And I think for girls, that's like a threshold that actually not everybody meets. Yeah. Like the worst the date can be for a lady is like dangerous and creepy. Right. Like we would never feel endangered. But that's like something that a female has to deal with. There's a chance that this guy is dangerous and bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:08 The spectrum goes way, way further into the negative. Yeah. For us, it's like, oh, that was just, we didn't click. Yeah. That's as bad as it gets. There was one time where I went out with somebody who got really drunk and then, and I like at the time didn't have a lot of money and she was like, she got two drinks and was kind of wasted and they wanted to order food and i was like oh no this is just gonna be expect i was like i wanted to get a drink because it was cheap
Starting point is 00:24:35 yeah i have a funny similar stories i went i went on a first date to dave and busters uh and it was one of those things where like we were kind of not into each other but we were like in a very fun gamey environment so it was like two bored people walking around to different games and the way the it works it's like you don't put in like coins
Starting point is 00:24:58 or tokens they have like gift cards so she had one for $75 that I like I misplaced I left in a machine or whatever I couldn't find it because I fucked up so at the end of the night I had to buy her $75 Dave and Buster's gift card and never saw her again
Starting point is 00:25:13 that's so funny I'm like I'm sorry I'll I have to buy you a $75 Dave and Buster's coupon now did she love Dave and Buster's maybe she got it or something it's so the date was like she's like I have a gift card Was she like a Dave and Buster? Did she love Dave and Buster's? Maybe she got it or something. So like the date was like, she's like, I have a gift card. We'll go to Dave and Buster's and use it.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Which is a very fun start. It is. It's just, it's funny that like. It was just sad we spent $6 of it, didn't enjoy ourselves. And I misplaced the card and had to buy her out. God, that's so funny. I guess I could have been a real asshole and been like, sorry. I guess I kind of goofed up there. Anyway, it was
Starting point is 00:25:48 so awesome meeting you. What you really should have done is just be like, oh man, I'll get you a new one. Excuse me. Gone. Put $5 on it. Let's play one more game. Let's not. Let's save it for our one year anniversary and we'll use it then. I have to go. Alright, I'm going to play basketball, I guess.
Starting point is 00:26:05 There's not enough money for the hoops. Shut out. Or say, all right, I feel bad. I'll refill your card. I do have to go to the bathroom first. And then I crawl out of a crawl space. Crawl into a game. Become a trash can at Dave & Buster's.
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Starting point is 00:30:14 Oh, it's a live student! Mom, I'm coming! Gross. No! Thanks, Game Boy. Thanks. But I do. Jake does.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Okay. My advice, and you reminded me of it, is that people should go to the doctor. Okay. Always or? Every day. Jesus. Well, first, actually, when's the last time you got like a physical? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:46 When's the last time you like went to the doctor? Years ago. I should do that more often. I don't think I've gone to the doctor in, actually, like, I don't know. Yeah, like who knows what my cholesterol is. Yeah. I don't, I have no fucking clue. I don't know the last time I got a general checkup.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Right. Okay. So that's one thing. So we should definitely do that. Let's go, let's go get checkups. You want to make a little pact? That'd be a good podcast. The checkup checkup.
Starting point is 00:31:15 So you get a checkup and then we check up on each other. Oh, that'd be really fun to like, it'd be kind of hard to produce, but like a podcast where your guest is required to go to the doctor and then come to you and talk about it. They get really alarming news. You got diabetes, baby. There's a theme song for it. Oh, but a booboo. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:31:38 So I went to the foot doctor, a podiatrist, if you will. As everybody knows, I suffer from many different foot ailments. Chronic almost. So I had a friend who also had a foot ailment. It was like, oh, I went to this podiatrist and they're really great. And they like found the problem. Like nobody could figure out what it was um they took an mri they figured it out they fixed it she got surgery and is like and uh is doing better wow so so i was like oh yeah maybe i should do that because um the turf toe that i got with uh our friend sean in hawaii yeah uh still hurts so this is not your broken heel foot no No, the broken heel foot, like it hurts sometimes, but like also half the time it doesn't hurt at all. Okay. So like it really, that's, I think I can like live with that.
Starting point is 00:32:34 I've also gotten an MRI on that foot and people are like, yeah, I can see like it's inflamed here, but there's not really anything. You can do. No. So I went to this podiatrist. I told him that the joint near my toe still hurts. And it seems like since I have a bunion there, I just assumed that it was bunion pain. Turf toe is like when your big toe gets bent back all the way and you feel like something's strained. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:04 It's kind of like hyperextending your, your big, like your toe box. So I, that's like what initially injured me. And then I was like, oh, but I have a bunion. So like once that was over, I was like, yeah, I think that like my turf toe did something to my bunion. My, like the way the shape of my foot makes it hard to heal. And this was just your estimation. I went, well, i went to a doctor in
Starting point is 00:33:26 la app right after it happened who like took an x-ray didn't see a break told like saw my bunion and it was like you like you should do insoles you should do like bunny and stuff like toe separators so he just looked to see if the bones were intact they were but he never did an mri to see if the muscles or the ligaments or the tendons were fine and i think i think that doctor was like we could do an mri but it was also it was like close to that mri that i got not my other foot which didn't do anything for me so i was like i don't know i'm not gonna do that like i think i think it's fine as long as it's it's not broken i'm just gonna like stay off it anyway two years later it still hurts and then i went to i but it hasn't been like limiting my movement like i still run i still bike i still climb it's just less comfortable
Starting point is 00:34:12 yeah the like the things that hurt the most are just like walking barefoot to the bathroom that's like that you can't do at home you're wearing sandals orthopedic i wear geriatric orthopedic sandals everywhere. I pack them. I wear them. I do not do anything barefoot. And that's because hardwood on your boned feet presses stuff and hurts it a lot. Yeah, it hurts a lot.
Starting point is 00:34:39 So you're like, you know what? I'm going to go to the doctor again. Right. I'm going to finally get an MRI. Something that would hurt a lot is hopping on my left foot. Like basically pushing off my, my toe box just hurts a ton. And like having no, no shoe hurts the most. The most painful would be you barefoot on a cement floor, hopping on your left foot. Yeah. That would be excruciating. And it's funny because that sounds instantly, obviously doctor worthy, but you're like,
Starting point is 00:35:08 yeah, but I just won't do that and I'll be fine. Yeah. Well, cause I, cause I have like a bunion and I'm just like, I think that's just bunion. People have bunion pain. So I finally went to this doctor. He's like, cause you can get bunion surgery. So he's like, I feel like you might be, it might be like good. There's like a 90% success rate.
Starting point is 00:35:25 You'll be pain-free in, like, six weeks. And I was like, oh. Bunion is, like, when your big toe jets out from your foot. Jets, like, in. It's sort of, like, curving towards. The toes. Towards my little toe. Which, like, makes.
Starting point is 00:35:37 The big joint makes, like, a little bump outside your foot. Yeah, exactly. Mine is, like, almost the size of another toe. Got it. So you have six toes at this point. So he's like, yeah, you can like get this bunion surgery. It will reduce your, it'll, you'll basically be pain-free after this is over. Which you can't even imagine.
Starting point is 00:35:57 No. And, and also like I did that, like, I think it was like six, six weeks on the knee scooter when I broke my heel and it didn't really help that much. And so I'm like, and it was also, it sucked so much, like I'm still scarred by it. So I didn't want to do that again. I didn't want to like be on crutches for two months. It's like, it's the pain's annoying, but nothing is more annoying than like being immobile. And then he was like, you're, you'll be in a walking boot pretty much right away. In four weeks, you'll be 80% recovered. I was like, oh, it feels like I'm at like 60% right now.
Starting point is 00:36:33 So he did an MRI. Oh, yeah. So he did an MRI. And he said? He said that I tore my ligament. I just have a torn ligament. For the last two and a half years, you've been walking on a torn ligament. Yeah, on my left foot.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Which you could have fixed right away, but you just never got an MRI. Correct. So now two and a half years later, you're like, by the way, I can sew it together and it'll heal. Yeah. So my quality of life from, I could have not shoved insoles into my wedding shoes. I could have like, I just could have had like a pain-free, basically last two years could have been pain-free. But I opted, if I had done six months of recovery. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Or no, sorry, six weeks of recovery. And then like six months of like the last 20%, which is just kind of like light activity. Like I think he said, I can still like exercise. Um, I would have the last two years pain free. I would not have had any foot pain. Do you know what ligament it is?
Starting point is 00:37:34 Is it like your big toe or? It's like, it's in my big toe. Um, and I think maybe like it's, oh, he said, so there's,
Starting point is 00:37:42 I guess there's two ligaments. There's one on like each side of your toe. Like one, it's sort of like, you know, holding it, holding it straight. And the one on the outside of my toe is torn, which is like allowing my toe to curve in a little bit more. Not like strained or sprained or slightly. It's just completely torn, disconnected. Yeah, just torn. When you took a tumble in Hawaii, it snapped.
Starting point is 00:38:04 He said torn. When you took a tumble in Hawaii, it snapped. He said torn. I think that I don't know what torn means, if it's just like it's frayed and it's a little longer than it should be. I feel like snapped would have been more noticeable. I would think so. Maybe it's like a thick rubber band with half of the width is cut or something. I guess that's what I imagine. It's also, as soon as he told me that, I was sitting in my car when he told me and my foot instantly started hurting more. Like as soon as you know,
Starting point is 00:38:31 like it's not just my bunion that I get really from my insoles from. It's straight up. It's the mental awareness that you are strained, broken, and torn. Yeah. So what's the plan? My plan now is to schedule a surgery for, I think, I want to do it like in November
Starting point is 00:38:49 because I kind of, I don't want to like be on a boot for four weeks in the summer again. See you. I've been doing this for two years. I think I'm just going to continue. I want to have one last, one nice summer. Surgery day before Thanksgiving. Then you just lay down and force people to feed you through December. Yeah. That's what I want to have one nice summer. Surgery a day before Thanksgiving. Then you just lay down and force people to feed you through December. Yeah, that's what I want to do. And in late January, you emerge again. And then I get back on the climbing wall.
Starting point is 00:39:15 That'd be fun. God, can you imagine no pain in your foot? No, I really can't. What would you complain about 24-7? I mean, you won't shut up about it. I guess I'll probably talk about other pain that I have somewhere else. That's cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I hurt my finger. Can you just fix everything? Just put me in a medically induced coma and do every surgery possible. All my appendages. Make me a bionic man, please. Like, doesn't your back hurt sometimes too? Yeah, my back. Well, I pulled it.
Starting point is 00:39:43 I mean, I always try to, after I come back from an injury, I like try to strengthen whatever it is that I hurt so I don't hurt it again. Yeah. And I like, so I've been trying to do
Starting point is 00:39:53 like all these core exercises so I don't hurt my back and every once in a while those core exercises will make me pull my back. Joke's on you, I guess. All right,
Starting point is 00:40:03 let's try to find one more, two more questions that we can answer. Your turn to play the guess. All right. Let's try to find one more, two more questions that we can answer. Your turn to play the game. All right. Oh! Here we go, Game Boy. I'm going to search steroid. Singular.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Ooh, there's a lot. There's 17 steroid questions. Here we go. My boyfriend is a complete lunatic. Help. Yes. Hey, assholes. We'll call this guy Gary. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:29 Hey, assholes. I'm in the middle of a crazy-ass situation. Me and my boyfriend just broke about three weeks ago, and the result of it was because of his own securities. I'm a gay 19-year-old male who is completely open with my sexuality. Me and him have been through a lot during this short period of time, and I won't get into the details, but with him being bipolar and having a personality, sorry, yeah, and having a personality, I'm almost scared of this asshole. He keeps contacting me through various social media networks. I've blocked him a million times, and I don't know what to do do part of me still cares for him
Starting point is 00:41:06 but part of me wants to just completely get rid of him and forget that we've uh forget we've ever been together please help me how do i get rid of this steroid taking prick bs jake you're really sexy oh thank you so that was all one long Right. So that's an example of why we usually screen questions. I would not reach out. I would continue blocking him. I would make sure that, I don't know, when people are that insane and trying to reach you, is it better to keep your distance and avoid them? Or does that just make them go crazier and crazier?
Starting point is 00:41:40 I think, I guess the one thing that I always come back to when it there's like issues of mental health in a relationship i think that's it's really sad very hard but it's not your responsibility you're a 19 year old this this guy has issues that he needs to work out and you even though you like you actually can't help him. You can, there's ways to support him if you, like, really want to, like, buy in. But I think the best thing to do is contact people that are closer to him, like his parents, his brothers, sisters, best friends, teachers. Like, somebody who can help that isn't, like, as tied to it as you are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I also remember, this is like a lighter version. I remember breaking up with someone and then trying to be like, I'm not going to contact her. I'm not going to respond. I'm not going to do anything. I'm going to distance myself and be very cold. And then that just made the other person like angrier and frustrated and sad because like we were in a relationship and now i'm just like acting like mean to her yeah so then eventually i was like i had a conversation with her where i was a little more warm and amicable but explained that
Starting point is 00:42:53 we were broken up and that seemed to help i don't know what this guy's done though but maybe sometimes there is something to like giving the other person a little bit so that they understand and don't grow frustrated and angry at you yeah i think everybody is everyone's different and so if you like are just straight up blocking this guy and and like ignoring him and he's freaking out you might want to just give him like a tiny little like a check-in to be like hey i'm i see that you're trying to contact me but like this is what's best for me i I think it's what's best for you. You need help from somebody else.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Right. Like, just a, like a, you're not, you're not being, letting them know that they're not being completely ignored. Right. Left alone, left in the dust. That you've like thought about what, what is going on. You haven't forgotten about them. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Let's see if we can get one more question. Do you have one last word so that we can play the game? Oh, tartar. Tartar. I was thinking more of like a beef tartar, but I think if you do it as one word, it's going to end up being like tartar. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Again, a true two. A non-spam, else two questions we've never answered before i'm so tartar god damn good at this game a hole in two twice almost harder than a hole in one once i'd say so uh all right do you want dentalaster or Filet-O-Fish Ruined My Life Via Rat Battle at Billy Scafuri? I will tell you that the Filet-O-Fish Ruined My Life Via Rat Battle at Billy Scafuri appears to be a two-page long rant about the Filet-O-Fish episode we did two years ago with Billy. Okay. Well, shout out to billy it was a terrible flay of fish that we got let's go with dental disaster dental disaster seems more manageable right now and apropos of as we talk about surgery that you're getting so this one was written by somebody we'll call uh she said she's in a pickle so we'll call her vlasic very nice also shout out
Starting point is 00:45:04 to my dentist who i well i'll talk about it after you read the question. Another surgery. The year, being 33 has been my year of just freaking going to the doc and fixing my problems. Me and my boyfriend have been dating for two years. It's going great. He is the love of my life. Here's the butt. He never brushes his teeth. He uses mouthwash
Starting point is 00:45:26 to freshen his breath before work, and that's as good as it gets. He brushes once in a while, but it's few and far between, and he has a lot of buildup of tartar. Is that the same tartar? Buildup of tartar? Yeah, tartar. I mean, tartar is two words, I believe.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Oh, I see. Buildup of tartar and shit visible on his teeth. I can't find a way to bring it up. At this point, I'm resolved to wait until we get married, add him to my dental insurance plan, and make appointments for him and for us to go together for routine cleanings. That way, it's up to the dentist to scold him for his dental hygiene. That could be years' help. Okay. Real quick. Your boyfriend is not going to up to the dentist to scold him for his dental hygiene. That could be years' help. Okay, real quick. Your boyfriend's not going to listen to the dentist.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Like, nobody listens to the dentist. It's hard. Like, it will mean more coming from you. I listen to the dentist a lot, but I guess I'm a different guy than this guy that brushes his teeth, quote, once in a while. I think you have a basis of caring about dental hygiene. And so when the dentist gives you advice, you're like, oh, I'll heat that. That's great. You care about your teeth.
Starting point is 00:46:30 This guy doesn't care about his teeth. If the dentist says something, it's not going to make him start caring about his teeth. God, it must be hard not to brush your teeth more than once in a while. I mean, that's, you look in the mirror, you see, like, everyone should just- You smell. You feel it. You do smell it. You smell your own breath.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I mean, that's awful. This, you should totally say something. You should absolutely, like, this isn't just a cosmetic thing. Yeah. It's not like, I wish your ears were smaller. Yeah. There's like things that you can't come back from, like gum disease and like he might need a root canal. There's shit that you like- Yeah come back from, like gum disease and like he might need a root canal.
Starting point is 00:47:05 There's shit that you like. Yeah. He might lose his teeth. Yeah. You've got to say something. Yeah. Definitely say something. Also, like routine cleanings aren't going to, he needs like good daily dental hygiene.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Yeah. Have we talked about the Waterpik recently? Can't recommend it enough. Love the water pick. I started going to a dentist in Williamsburg, and I'm like sort of, I have a crush on her. So I've been brushing very often. Actually, I've been brushing not at all and keep on going back. I went like four times in three weeks.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Why? Well, so I... Once four times in three weeks. Why? Well, so I- Once just to drop off flowers. I did a, she really like can't, there's everything she suggests. I'm like, yes, of course. Let's do that. Let's do that. I need to remove both your front teeth and replace them with white veneers.
Starting point is 00:48:03 I need to put your big toenail as your molar. Absolutely, dentist. You've got it. I love you. No, I had like, I got a deep cleaning of my gums because like from, for me, I had years of buildup that even the water pick, it was too hardened to get to. So I've like, but I've gotten a fresh start now. So she's chiseled away the hardened food.
Starting point is 00:48:31 She chiseled away the hardened food. That almost became part of your teeth. And since then, like flossing has been a dream. Like it doesn't, there's no pain when I floss. Wow. And my, like my gums feel healthy. Eating is easier. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:52 It's bad when you're in the chair. But once you're gone, once you have a fresh start and you can keep it up, having good dental hygiene is so, so nice. I guess it's kind of like working out. It life improves. It's kind of like working out. It's hard to start. But then once you're going in a routine, it starts feeling good. Right.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Once you make it a habit, like now I've, there were times when like, if I had like a long day or if I had like two drinks or something, I would get home and be like, oh, I'm like not going to brush my teeth tonight. Or I'm not,
Starting point is 00:49:23 I guess I would always brush my teeth. But like, maybe I'm like, I'm not going to floss. And then. Or I'm not, I guess I would always brush my teeth. But like maybe I'm like, I'm not going to floss. And then like you don't. I'm so wasted. I don't think I can floss. And then you don't floss for like, oh man, I'm blacked out. I don't think I freaking floss last night. You're flossing right now.
Starting point is 00:49:36 Just the dance though. So I, now it's like part of my nightly routine. I basically can't go to sleep unless I floss. Oh, you need to floss. You absolutely need to floss, but this guy's not even brushing. That's square one. Yeah. Mouthwash does not clean your teeth.
Starting point is 00:49:55 You need to scrub. I think you could talk to him about it from like a health standpoint. Be like, I don't care about the smell or the look. That's shallow. But you might get gum cancer and die or, I don't know, do some research about what happens in places where people don't brush their teeth. That's fair. I think it will mean more coming from a place of you look ugly to me with the tartar on your teeth. And I think that's fair.
Starting point is 00:50:19 I think that's like, it's not like saying you're not tall enough or something. It's just objectively unattractive and unhealthy to have like your teeth covered in tartar. It's a problem that you need to fix. There's always something, huh? Love of your life, been dating for two years, no problems. But then the tooth thing comes up. But the bad, bad tooth, the bad dental hygiene, bad oral hygiene is such a deal breaker. That's like, there could have been a lot of other buts, but this one really gets me.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Where do you land on dandruff? Do you care about that? Well, because dandruff, I think, can persist despite your best efforts. Some people just have dry scalps. Yeah. So I think that's okay. I get dandruff unless I use like dandruff shampoo. So like there's been periods of my life
Starting point is 00:51:10 where I got like the dusty shoulders, which seems to be like the equivalent of like the non-brushed teeth. It's interesting. That doesn't bother me as much. Interesting. If I saw somebody's dandruff, I don't think I would mind at all.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Cracked lips, dry lips. Oh, that one bothers me. Yeah. Yeah. That one bothers me. What else is there? What else bothers you? Runny nose.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Constantly runny slash peaty nose. That's not really a hygiene thing. That's just a... Yeah. Acne doesn't bother me. That's like sort of a hygiene thing, washing your face. Yeah. But acne is kind of like a genetic thing.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Another one of those, despite your best efforts. Right. Teeth are kind of, oh, long nails. Unruly, unkempt nails. Yeah. What about toes? You like funky, weird, cracked up toes. I wouldn't, I don't think I would care either way if somebody had nice or bad feet.
Starting point is 00:52:07 I mean, my feet are disgusting, so. Yeah, who are you going to say? I think maybe that's, I also like had dandruff at one point. So maybe like, well, I had tartar too and it's gross. So I don't think it's like, it's that. It's like whatever you seek to avoid, you also seek to avoid in your loved one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:25 That's nice. That's beautiful, actually. That's really awesome. You're frozen. All right. That's it. That's our time. Thanks so much for listening.
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Starting point is 00:52:56 The opening theme song was so good, I want to play it again because playing it just once isn't good enough. I love, love this one. Let me give him another shout out. He was Jordan Holmes. If I had a million dollars parody by the Barenaked Ladies, this one is If I Had a Golden Mike. So thanks, Jordan. Thanks to you guys for listening.
Starting point is 00:53:17 We'll be back next week. Bye. This song is from the perspective of a sad, short, coy, squirrely little Jewish man. If I had a golden mic, if I had a golden mic, Oh, my mom would hug me too, not just Jake, that's cruel. If I had a golden mic. If I had a golden mic. Well, I would be invited back to game night.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Back up, I'm the doctor, dude, alright. If I had a golden mic. If I had a golden mic. Well, lonely and horny wouldn't be An exact documentation of my life If I had a gold in my heart Oh, Jake Hurwitz If I were you If I were you
Starting point is 00:54:16 If I were you If I had a gold in my heart Like so many titties on my shelf If I had a golden mic Like so many turdies on my shelf If I had a golden mic If I could beat anybody else If I had a golden mic All my life would be complete Oh, I know I get the turdy this week
Starting point is 00:54:43 For wanting it too bad. And you know what? Jake's the man. He gets the golden mic already. That's got to be a record or something. Getting the golden mic and the theme song. You're the man, Jake Hurwitz. And I'm a little turd man collecting turdies.
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