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Episode Date: February 22, 2021

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I'm feeling it. I want to turn up the show. I'm feeling it. Give me some good advice. I'm feeling it. Give me some bad ones too. I'm feeling it. It's time to see some cheese.

I'm feeling it. I love all the things they do. I'm feeling it. I love all the things they do. I'm feeling it. A bear fell short this time. He will get the tourney. Well, if I were you and get some good advice. Okay. Epic. I'm feeling this. i was actually feeling it uh that was crazy like tom delong style easy huh oh um why are you why are you whispering i'll be told to sleep so i'm trying to keep it down

but i'm feeling it try not to be try not to be shy and amped at the same time. I'm trying to be considerate. I'm feeling this. I don't like the energy you're emanating right now. You're like fucking stoked and reserved. I'm trying to like, I'm trying to keep it down. I'm feeling this. Yeah, it doesn't, okay.

Sorry. It's loud in my headphones too yeah yeah well she can't if she's loud in your headphones she can't hear me she don't win stirring she's stirring now she's stirring because you're yelling a little bit not me i'm in your headphones you keep on saying i'm feeling this which is like it's almost like, it's almost like that's like a level designed to wake someone up from a nap, like a high whisper. Okay? I know. Okay, you do know?

I should go to a different room. Why is she napping in your office? Because I said, she's like, are you recording? You have, you shouldn't have to go to another room. You have a standing desk and your microphone's mounted on it. She should nap. You have other rooms. She's rooms like are you recording i was like no i'm not recording why did you lie because i wanted to be like a good guy to her but now like now you're being inconsiderate it's starting to backfire she's waking up stop singing the song yeah yeah there

she goes she left she's up i was she left the room or she like left the relationship out yeah i just saw her car peel out oh my god in my audi she took your audi i got an audi not two days ago and it's gone it was a tt 2002 oh, jeez. The TT? She took the TT too? She tatses a tata on the TT. She texted me, I'm Audi 5000, and she crashed it. No way. She absolutely wrapped it around the pole. She should be texting and driving.

That's what I'm saying. Is she all right? Oh, shit. My dog's still asleep. The low priority at this point. Welcome to If I Were You, the only advice podcast on the web hosted by us uh i'm amir i am jake so this is coming out monday 2 22 kind of a fun date 2 2 2 cool nice two fun two fun landmarks coming up one our live show on wednesday 2 24 that's in just a

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So if you've been delaying and waiting, now's the time. You can get tickets at jakeandamir.com. jakeandamir.com. Do it. The other thing is that it's 2-22. Oh, exactly a week before. Do you know what it is? 2-28 or 2-29.

Your last flight from LA to New York. That's the one year anniversary of your last flight. Whoa. It's been almost a year since you've been on an airplane. Jesus Christ. I didn't think it would happen. I didn't think it would happen. And you made it. Yeah. I mean, what was would happen. I didn't think it would happen. And you made it.

Yeah. I mean, what was the last year you weren't on an airplane? Like, I don't know. When you were a child or something. Yeah, maybe. I honestly, I feel like I've taken the flight at least once a year since I was like a teenager. And not only that, but I would say the year before that, you probably took the most flights of your life. You were flying hither and thither almost too much. Delta Diamond that year. I basically had like a month to use my Delta Diamond status. Yeah, you ramped up to get this status, and then you promptly quit the reason that you needed the status do they hold it

on for you is there like a pandemic policy they're like i know you flew a lot and we're not just going to take it away or did they take it away i haven't logged into my delta in a really long time either i i remember like when it when the pandemic first hit they were like you're like the miles never expire so i got the miles and i do remember them being like your status is going to carry over into the next year yeah so i i think i should still be diamond but also i can kind of imagine them uh not doing that because yeah sort of all bets are off yeah they've lost a lot of money they've lost a lot of cash they don't want you then to cash in on a first class flight.

Your first flight in a year and you want it for free. That's not necessarily good for business. No, they don't want that to happen. But I do still use the Delta credit card for, I guess, you know, I should definitely change that. I should get a cash back thing at this point. Yeah, well, not even cash. You need whatever the future of currency is. You need a Bitcoin rewards card.

Good news, it is 2021 and I am still diamond. Here's the issue though. If I'm going to keep diamond in 2022, I have to have already logged like 12,000 miles and that's not happening. I'm not flying anytime soon. So it's guaranteed while i still have diamond to enjoy in 2021 i'm not going to be able to enjoy it because i'm not flying so then i'm really i should be it should be carrying over to 2022 which is when i'm going

to start flying again but they're not gonna they're not gonna do that not two years i can't accrue the miles and i'm gonna be fucking i'm gonna be gold like a goddamn schlub by the end of this here yeah and you know it's gonna get upgraded are all the crazy people that have been flying in 2020 they're like yeah i just still fucking yeah you know went for it it's a 13 round trip to new orleans what am i supposed to do upgrade yeah so i remember like i'm penalized i'm penalized for not for being responsible and not flying but would you say you took would you say in the 52 weeks prior to that you took a hundred flights so you went from like roughly two a week maybe like roughly eight a month would you say does that sound about right back and forth eight a month i don't know if i did eight a month well every round trip is two so and i think i probably

i i think it was closer to six six a month versus eight a month so like roughly 75 flights one year and then february 29th hit and you went from 75 to zero flights it probably was close to 100 because there were times when we'd be on tour and flying like every other day for a little bit right plus layovers potentially that's two flights technically yeah yeah that's for that's for real yeah that's gonna be a weird moment right when you you for the first time in however long take off and land again yeah i thought about i thought about flying the other day because i'm bidding for this director job oh a little commercial gig whoa yeah no big deal i won't get it okay um but you know i said Okay. I said I would not fly. So that puts me at the end of the list. But yeah, like I realized that if I got it,

I would have to do like the COVID flight, the stay in a hotel. And it made me frightened after I submitted, even though I was like, upon hearing it at first, I was cool. But now I'm a little more skittish. A six hour flight and a mask too. Have you ever worn a mask for six hours straight?

Not necessarily, probably, right? The longest I wore a mask for straight was I had to take the train from Connecticut to New York one time in the early fall, like October. And that was a mask for an hour and a half or so it was probably like three hours but yeah because i had to i had to take the subway when i got to new york oh wow the subway in covid time i guess the subway is still running right yeah yeah people have to take it the subway the subway seemed less scary than metro North. Because like Metro North is just like everyone's on there for two hours. No one's like really leaving. It feels like you're breathing the same air.

The subway, like I guess it was definitely less packed than Metro North. And also people are like coming and going. So maybe it's more people, but it feels like you're sharing space a little less. Well, either way, you survived both of those trips. So good on you. The mask must have helped. to do something that's like outside of my comfort zone or like outside of my bubble of which has been like basically the same thing for the last year yeah i i figured out i think i slept in the same bed every night for a year you're like i definitely going home yeah but imagine that 300

is like my first night in a different bed that's gonna be jarring as well and that i mean the you haven't done that for a very long time all 365 nights in the same bed right because even when i was a kid i would sleep with mommy and daddy like twice a week that's right and if you did it too much they made you sleep out in the garage right so yes that's when she the house they said i had to sleep over my friend Raj. And that just meant sleep in the garage, basically underneath the ping pong table. And I would spend weekends with Raj, which is just by myself in the garage. And I would cry and he would laugh. The Raj.

Because my parents were on the other side of the door laughing. So it sort of convinced me that the garage itself was cackling at me. That my friend raj yeah yeah right um but what was i gonna ask you about oh yeah have you started hearing stories about like i've heard i've started to hear some wacky vaccine stories like a buddy of mine was at cvs and they're like hey we have eight leftover vaccinations uh if anybody wants and so he just got the vaccine oh yeah is it wait so like if you do that if you get the rando vaccine like yeah like if it's a surprise do they then schedule your follow-up because he

has to get two right i think he's like grandfathered into the system where like now he has the golden ticket wow yeah so i get i get access to the second shot. Have you heard anything like that? I heard of a friend whose mom is like a doctor or a nurse and is administering vaccines. And they said at the end of the day, like, if they have leftover, she goes into the parking lot and just like asks people if they want it so that's you need to tell me that name because that's illegal yes and i what i want to do is get that person fired for what they're doing they're trying to get tired they're actually sort of ruining the integrity of the program and that can't be the case so that nurse basically just

there's no program there's no work the last day of my life it's all insane i'm not gonna give you a name i'm not gonna give you a name obviously obviously you played your hand you played your hand and it was actually a bluff it was there was no cards it was too low how's that for fucking i'm starting to work i folded basically and now i'm worried i'll never be able to... You folded card side up, which was sort of like playing the worst hand you could have had.

Yeah. I mucked my hand, and then I sort of exposed what I had, and it ruined the hand for the rest of the players. There was a Joker card and a Rule of the Card Games card. Yeah, which is not supposed to be in the deck, but this is some sort of weird

quote-unquote COVID- COVID safe casino we're in. So all bets are off. I feel like everybody's going to be getting, and, like, somebody who's, like, if not eligible, then, like, eligible adjacent, like, you can come get it. That's okay. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, I was thinking, like, if I was at a CVS picking up milk, and they're like, we have an extra vaccine, do you want it? I'd be like, oh, well, I mean, shouldn't I talk to my doctor about it? And then by the time I do that, eight other people are like, no, I'll take it. Just give it to me. Stick me.

What lengths would you go to to get a vaccine at this point? I'm not super eager because the vaccine doesn't do much for you until everybody has it. So like I'm okay waiting until March versus cutting the line in February. But if it was like,

you know, you might not get it until next year then i would probably loiter around pharmacies waiting for them to you know right dump their day-old vaccines in the in a garbage can yeah the real priority like my mom got her vaccine because she's a teacher and that's like i that should i'd love them i would no you're an entertainer i want the vaccine no i don't i don't want to take my mother you need to be able to go on the yeah that should have been yours. I'd love the, I would, no. You're an entertainer. I want the vaccine. No, I don't, I don't want to take my mother's vaccine. You need to be able to go on the, yeah, you should have given her a dummy arm. You should have given her a dummy arm.

Actually, if I win this fucking directing gig, I, I'll be really pissed at her for taking my vax. That's your vax. I'll be pissed. That should have been my vax. She should fax that vax. Now I have to fucking... Because if I had been vaxxed, I would have been maskless on the plane, even if they said I couldn't be.

You can't. You can't do that. I would be like, I'm trying to watch Van Wilder here. All right? Yeah, and your mask is loose. I can't exactly eat Doritos and watch Van Wilder

if I have a mask on, can I? You just have a loose handkerchief. If I have a jacking diet. It's 8.42 a.m., sir. We're about to land. We don't have alcohol on this flight. You took Spirit Airlines

and you're flying more than commercial. You're in the last row. It's a non-reclining seat. Just give me 11 bags of peanuts and fuck off i said somebody in first class actually is allergic to peanuts so we can't hand them out what is that i had brought my own is all she's is there a doctor on the flight this man just murdered my wife is there a doctor because i only got one shot, actually. I need another vax. I'm in the system is all. Grandfathered in. Well, they say 33 to 50% of Angelenos have

gotten the virus. So hopefully, between that and the 25 to 33% that will get the vaccine soon, we'll have herd immunity by, I don't know, Thanksgiving. Yeah, if you had to guess, when do you think the world is average again? I don't think there'll be like a date where it's like, all right, 4th of July weekend, all things are lifted. I think it'll be like a gradual like,

all right, now I'm gonna eat outdoor dining. All right, now I'm gonna eat with my parents indoor. All right, now we're gonna go to small restaurants and then like the last step is like go to a concert which is 50 000 people in a mud puddle sort of coughing and breathing onto each other i don't know when that last step is gonna happen i wasn't barely interested in that before right but will you be more interested now that it's been so long? You just have to get your pent-out aggression out in a music festival. I feel like I'm... And I still crave the things that I always like. I would love to travel and I'd love to eat and get drunk with my friends at a dive bar or a cocktail lounge. That sounds nice. That seems doable in this calendar year. Yeah. I mean, I did it on the street in the summer.

That was fine. Yeah, that was good enough. And we were sort of scared the whole time because we didn't know whether we could give it to one another. But if you're fairly certain, if everyone's vaxxed up. Yeah, if everybody's been vaxxed and we're drinking outside, I will have, I mean mean i'll have no anxiety at all oh yeah if you're outside in addition to the vax then you'll be like yeah i mean i loved

the outside stuff it's it's just like it's just the masks and like the servers being sad that's not fun you know yeah they're ruining my vibe actually the double can you take off your mask plastic glove people serving you is not and it's it's not a joy it's it's sad that you're wearing a garbage bag for some reason so you're wearing this plastic sort of vest situation like you're about to get x-rayed yeah and then you're out and about either inside or outdoors we need the facts we need the facts anyway if you know if anybody out there knows anybody anybody who's like handing out the vax or can spare some extra vax i mean i'll stick myself it doesn't need to be a it seems like it's a pretty it's pretty cut and dry right

you just stick the needle into your eye and then just sort of pump the dye into the eye that's it so someone sent itira a needle. That's all. Yeah. I tried to, yeah, I even tried to do that the other day, but it wasn't the vax. I was just sort of practicing. Right. As it were.

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advice is to get tickets to our live show, jakeandamir.com. It's going to be a fun show. Special guests abound longer than you're used to and live video feed. So come on by. And I think you'll be able to have the opportunity to chat with people who are also watching and then also submit questions of your own. So we'll try to do some level of interaction as much as possible. We also may have some special uh irl guests like for instance uh my wife's gonna just come into the room so that's right without her knowing

too right you'll sort of lure her into the room she does not know yet that i promised that she'd be a guest she interesting she's unaware because i i told yeah i told avital if we found any good relationship questions maybe she could join. And I gave her that heads up, that courtesy, so that when she comes into the show, it'll be like she's fully aware and ready and prepared. That's awesome. I would do the same thing if Jill was returning my calls. I texted her, but she didn't respond.

So it's a different issue. And it was like- That sucks, man. I'm sorry about that. Let's see if we can get to some of these questions. I was just going to say that when I texted her, because i wasn't sure about this when i don't know if you want to say this yeah you can you can cut it out if it sounds if it sounds like fucking desperate or anything it's it's gonna sound bad already because yeah you're talking about i'm just no

it's just casual what i'm trying to say is when i texted her i texted her at the old number that i always had forever and it was your phone number it was texted from your phone i texted her i texted her at the old number that i always had forever and it was your phone number it was texted from your phone yeah i texted her number that i've had for a long time and it was green and it's usually blue like i message delivered and it was just green i see yeah and it now i feel now i feel like i'm sort of colluding with her because do you know she got a new phone um we we really we really really do not have this conversation right now. We can get a question in. Why don't we get a question in?

And it'll be a question from me. Do you know if my wife got a new phone? She replaced her same card on her phone. She has the same phone. She has a new number. That's all I wanted to know. So she didn't get a new phone just a new number and she's not responding to me i thought you were on this group chat email's the same as it as it ever was is the email the same as it ever was email is the email is the same but i really thought you were on these group texts and

these group emails she's changing some stuff up she's going back to uh uh that's cool her email and phone number from yeah before jake she calls it bj era oh we'll see okay that shouldn't be hard to track down you don't have to track it just have a try to have i just wanted a guest on the podcast to solve i think it'd be pretty neat if she was on the live show. No, now that I'm realizing what's going on, I don't think you should trap her, trick her into coming on the live show. You should definitely not have the first conversation with her. If you have her number, you let her know to come on the live show.

And that'll be, it'll be like we're having another meet cute. I don't think so. I don't think it's going to be a meet cute, man. She's with Jackson, actually, this weekend. Jackson? Oh, no. Her fucking, what, her spinning instructor?

Yeah, right. Yeah. I guess she's been using the Peloton. You got her for Christmas a lot, right? That's right. You got her Peloton a lot, right? That's right. I got her a Peloton for Christmas, yeah. She loves Jackson's classes. She does love, she loves Jackson's classes.

That's for sure. That is for sure. They've been, is she doing like studio classes when they're hanging out? Is that what you mean? Like she's going to do live classes in the studio. Here's a question from somebody who wants to know about his wife's cousin. So his in-law.

That's kind of funny. Why don't we call this guy, does Jill have a cousin? Maybe we can name this guy after her. She has a cousin, but the only name I can think of off the top of my head right now is Jackson. It's fucking Jackson. I'm afraid. I'm afraid. I'm just looking at this fucker's Instagram stories.

He obviously should have gone private because he's obviously with my wife. They are in Ibiza. That's fucking insane. I thought you knew. I'm logging in my Delta account and it looks like Jill flew with him using my miles. Yeah, I guess your diamond status was transferable, and she took a pill and a visa, if you can believe it. Holy shit.

All right, Jackson. Let's call this guy Jackson, right? My wife's cousin has been having a hard time finding her soulmate, but she finally found him. Unfortunately, when we met him, my wife and I both picked up on some serious pedophile vibes. He's a middle school teacher, a youth leader, and a Boy Scout leader. He also really liked playing with our girls. My question is, do I tell her cousin about these vibes and risk making fools of ourselves? Or go with the flow and hope she has, uh, er, and realize she will have a rude awakening down the line?

Anyway, thanks for reading this email. I met you both in Seattle. So, how strong of a vibe do you have to have to just go for it and say, I'm picking up vibes. I think it has to be stronger than that, because that vibe is, at least according to the email, based on just, like, his job. Yeah, his job and his hobbies and the fact that he was enjoying playing with this guy's kids. It's a really low bar. Like, anybody that becomes a teacher

because they're like they care about children's education like i don't know i feel weird being like the don't worry this guy is not a pedophile guy because you know i could easily be on the wrong side of history yeah high risk is the hopefully a higher reward but you can't also accuse someone of that on a hunch yeah you you don't have enough information yet you definitely don't have enough information to like confront your cousin yeah if you go for that swing and you miss that's almost as bad as being the pedophile is the guy that accused this guy who's just a teacher of being a pedophile. Right.

And then he's just like this nice teacher. Why would you want to hang out with all the kids if you didn't want to? Fuck them. I can't imagine any reason. I can't imagine any reason. I think you actually sound like the pedophile. All right. Forget I said anything.

Happy wedding day. This is you giving the toast at the wedding. To Jackson. Yeah. Oh, that's tough tough and i don't think it should come from you it has to come from the what your wife who's this person's cousin but then that's it's not like a sibling it's a cousin so like i don't know that seems kind of intense too yeah i would stay out of it i would not i wouldn't touch it i think it's it's wife's cousin

yeah that's that's not your jurisdiction i don't think no no it's... It's wife's cousin, yeah. That's not your jurisdiction, I don't think. No. No, it's not. And all you can really do is be prepared if the cousin ever comes to you and is like, is it weird that my boyfriend is a teacher? Yes. You're talking about the pedophile thing? Oh, no.

I was saying, do you think he's a good teacher? Oh, no. For sure. Oh, shit. I don't know what I'm talking about anymore. There would have to be different vibes that you did not include in this email for me to be concerned. Right. Or more widespread vibes. Like, are the vibes just yours?

Or are there vibes that belong to other people too? Yeah. We need to know more. We can't answer this question. But I guess... But neither can you. That's right. That's right.

So don't start accusing people based on a hunch when the accusation is so serious. Anyway, Q is posted, I guess. Definitely. We got another email from a guy who's getting into trading cards, and he says, since Amir has gotten into basketball cards, I thought you guys could help out. All right.

We'll call this guy. Let's call him Chris Paul, because that's the last basketball card I bought. I got the fucking goat. Chris? I got the goat. Oh, that's right. We card I bought. I got the fucking goat. Chris? I got the goat. Oh, that's right. We never said. We never talked about it. I never had my unboxing. So you

had, you won the Super Bowl bet. You said Tom Brady, Tampa Bay Bucks would win the Super Bowl. The stakes were I had to send you a trading card of $50 or less and I found you that PSA 10, that's Gem Mint, highest graded possible, LeBron James card from the 2015, 16, or 16, 17,

the year he won the championship. Wow. Cavs card. Yeah, 2016, 2017. That's it. That's the year. That's the Cavs championship year. Oh, that's incredible.

The hope here is that you hold onto that card. LeBron one day wins another MVP, maybe another championship or two, becomes the GOAT, and you have his highest rated card from the year he won his most important championship. That $50 card is worth what? $51, $52 in 10 years?

That's pretty cool. You can't get that kind of return anywhere else right now. Honestly. And I really just, I love the way the card, I don't even care about the cash. I mean, the cash is good. I'm glad that it's going to get me rich, but I love the way it feels.

Cash is king. I love the way it looks. I love the way it tasted. I took it out of the package. Don't take it out of the vacuum. What I did. PSA sort of vacuum seals it like that so that it stays in gem mint condition.

So do not take it out. But I had to make sure that this was a legit paper card because it looks so plastic. You don't have to do anything because it's PSA authenticated and graded. They made sure. What I was concerned about is that this wasn't even a basketball card at all because it looks more like a fucking wafer. Yeah, it's clear. It's heavy.

It's plastic. I opened it up, and I was able to feel that it is paper. To verify that it's a card. To verify that it's a card and not a fucking paper. You ruined the card. I was able to open it up, and I snipped the edge right here. Automatically, that makes the card useless. I put ink on the back which makes me

know that it's actually legit this was printed on that's now a psa zero it's it's not even an authentic card anymore you i gave you a 50 bill and you set it on fire basically it's still the now that you hold the card do you understand a little bit more the hobby of oh i can like i want to look and start adding to the collection of cards that look like this yeah i could definitely see that if this was of interest to me like the thing is i have i could imagine if you had sent me like um a i'm trying to think of like my other favorite basketball player jj reddick Redick. Uh-huh, a J.J. Redick rookie. Yeah, if you sent me like a non-goat card, I could see myself wanting LeBron James.

But having this card, I feel like I've got everything I could possibly need. But I understand your compulsion for it. Right. The idea to add to my list, my ever-growing collection. It checks so many boxes for you because it's kind of like a cryptocurrency type thing. Exactly. With the thing that you like the most, with the players that you like the most,

which your favorite sport, which you have like an insane knowledge for already. It's a blending of all your passions. Have I even told you about TopShot, which is like an even more blending of the passion? It's not just physical paper cards like this. It's a literal blockchain technology. It's digital cards where every moment is serialized and you quote unquote own it like you would a Bitcoin. No. Yeah. So if you think this is up my speed, imagine literal cryptocurrency as digital basketball moments that you can buy and sell in a marketplace. How much is the chase down? So, thanks for asking, the most expensive play was actually a Zion dunk because they don't have every play in NBA history.

They're being very methodical about it. So they released most highlights from last year and then they're slowly releasing ones from this year. The most expensive purchase was a Zion dunk, which was serial number one, like quote unquote the first one that they made, minted, even though it's literally a YouTube video, for $100,000.

Somebody bought it for somebody but someone owns a how long is the video uh it's like a three second clip played like four or five times from different angles so maybe 15 seconds total and like what makes owning that better than watching that and like having it and seeing it like you can watch this guy's cash right yes you can watch his cash and you can also see the page that says zion williamson dunk number one of a hundred or something and then it goes owned by this person so that guy's like this is mine and then he can sell it for whatever he wants maybe list it for 150 000 so like this next the next millionaire that wants to invest will buy it from him and he'll make a profit so this is like closer to art owning art than it is

like cash or stocks i think yeah well cards is like art like what people do you oh you like buy it yeah yeah but you like buy i think that this this is like this is like what people do you like buy it yeah yeah but you like buy i think that this this is like digital art that's like i mean having the website display your name is like totally more about collecting the art than investing in the stuff yeah it's yeah and they people are doing digital art now too like you can start buying like like crypto kitties was the first thing where it was like not the first thing but one of the first use cases of these non-fungible tokens which is like sort of uh digitizing art and putting a finite amount to it and like people are starting to sell artwork that quote only one person can own uh this is just the nba version of that and it started like sometime last year it blew up

in like october november and since then has skyrocketed. NBA players are now tweeting about it, opening their packs online. Every day in the last five days has been the most transactions and the most sale dollars on this marketplace. Would you buy one? Are there any that are in your budget? Oh, Jacob, how much time do you have? Would I buy one or have I bought many and sold many in the last four weeks?

You have no idea how deep this rabbit hole goes. We don't talk anymore. We don't talk anymore. Yes, I purchased many. I have sold some, and I'm sitting on dozens of others. I am fully deep, whole hog, 100% invested in this Top Shot marketplace. Did you take your money out of your 401k no i couldn't first of all i can't take money out of my 401k unless i claim some sort of medical exemption which i wasn't able to do so what i was able to do after talking to schwab and i trust me i played you actually talked to shuck you talked to shuck i talked to chuck i did talk to chuck i ended up having to use um bitcoin crypto money that I had, and I moved it over to this marketplace and started using that

as my means of currency. So it's sort of fake money to buy fake cards. It felt like a fun adventure that I was about to go on. Have you made cash on the transactions that you made? On the transactions that I've made, yes. But i've also uh i have a bunch of cards that i haven't sold yet so overall i'm quote down until i sell the cards that i do have and i shouldn't even call them cards there are moments right are the moments that you have are they increasing in value or are they staying still great question some are increasing and some are staying still okay if i wanted to buy a moment what's the lowest they go for two bucks three bucks you can buy a two okay yeah you can get a reggie bullock steel who is on the nicks serial number 14 860 for like two or three bucks and

either hold it have it in your collection or try to list it for sale and make a few bucks i see okay to get my card my fucking nikola yokich turnover that'll cost you 38 000 whoa oh shit somebody actually i guess they built hijacking into the $38,000. Whoa. Oh, shit. Somebody actually, I guess they built hijacking into the system. That's the thing that scares me. My moment was ganked from under me. I can't believe this. Yeah, they could easily do that. They could easily steal your moments.

They took my money and ran, if you can believe it. I owned Jokic for this. I had a fucking, he dribbled it off his foot. It was a blooper series. What if he just showed up at your house and he was like, you can't own my moment. You have to give it back. Well, that's what NBA players are doing now. They're like, wait a minute, I'm on this website and I'm not making any money.

And then some are like buying their own moments and selling them at a profit which is pretty funny jesus are they are is the site allowed to how do they own the moments so it's a it's a company that partnered with the nba players association so they have a licensing deal so all the money that they make they give the nba cut of it so it's all official above the board legal website wow yeah check it out nba top shot.com very very cool very intriguing i did a whole buckets episode with billy so if you want an even deeper dive check out my last episode of buckets with billy where we talk all about trading cards and then we get into the top shot of it all is billy invested he's dabbling as well we're starting to get into it the thing is like we recorded that like two or three weeks ago and we were like wow this is really blowing up but who knows and like since then all the prices have like quadrupled and like

quintupled since then so we're like oh shit we should have bought a lot more cards back then and just sold them for five times what we bought in for god so hopefully it keeps going up and up that you're not too late it's still technically in beta so there are still some bugs and difficulties associated with it there's also packs that they release uh every once in a while they'll be like there's 5 000 packs available where you can like buy a set of three to five digital moments and then you wait in line but it's all online and then if you make it to the top, whatever, 5,000, 10,000, 50,000 of this digital line, then you can buy a pack for like nine bucks. And that'll give you three moments as well.

And do you know what's in the pack? Like, could you not? So you could spend nine bucks and then like, oh, it's right. Is it actually random? Or do they like control? Like, they're not going to put anything that's worth like $20,000 in the pack. It's not like a lottery or anything. It is like a lottery.

And they can't make every card worth $20,000, but they are incentivized to put some like rare cards out there because they make a portion of every sale. So they want people to get like a $10,000 moment and sell it. Right. Because they'll make 500 bucks off of it. So, and you are the person that told me to buy Bitcoin and you also told me to buy Tron. And you were right about one of those things. Is this more of a Bitcoin where you hold and it just keeps going up and up and up? Or is this more of a Tron, a bubble where it's like it's flying really high right now. And then in a month, everyone will sell all their moments and the entire market will crash. What happened to GameStop?

What's GameStop trading at? I think it's slowly trickling down to where it was before all this nonsense. That makes sense. It went from like 10 to 500 and now it's what, in the 40s? I don't have the, I just don't have the stomach for all the day trading, for the fast turnaround. I'm a steady-as-she-goes type of guy. It's definitely more stressful to put more money into it. The higher the reward, it literally is.

It's a risk-reward thing where you're like, now I'm nervous that this moment is not going to go up, and I'm going to have lost my capital. When I think about having a ton of cash i think about like buying land i want right then i'll just like hang on to forever that's yeah that's what i that's like my level of investing yeah and that's uh that's like how a lot of people start and then they they sort of get into this hyperactive moment and you're like okay now i need that quick return.

Shit, this didn't double over the last 10 days. What else is doubling even faster than that? More, faster, better. And like these digital cards don't take up any space at all. I don't have to visit land or make sure nobody's setting fire to my land or stealing my cards or keeping my cards in a safe. This is all digital.

You don't have to get them graded. You don't have to make sure that your dog doesn't bite into it because it's completely online. And you can transfer it instantly and for free. So there's some pros and cons to Top Shot versus physical cards. It's just all over my head. Like, maybe I would get into actually buying art.

I would have, like, a painting that I liked to see. Imagine that. A fucking painting? Yeah, but then how do you know? How do you know if that painting is good and will appreciate over time i i don't understand art like i do basketball yeah that's that's fair uh and you know i wouldn't expect you to understand art as well as i do but that's for another episode um what's a what's an artist that you think we have to think it's gonna

i was we haven't even reached the second question let that you think is going to... We haven't even reached the second question, let alone the break. I think we have to go on to a break and come back. Why don't we just leave it as... Let's just leave it at that. Name three artists, and then we'll go to break, and then we'll come back. Just because I want to look into it, too. I want to educate myself. I just think that we should say... Name one artist ever. I'll start. Picasso say, name one artist ever. For posterity, I know more. I'll start. Picasso.

You name any artist. Okay, I will. Picasso, the one that you said. I'll also take that. Oh my God. You know even less about art than you do about basketball and you know nothing about basketball.

LeBron James is an artist on the court, so that's two. Picasso, LeBron. And did I mention me look what my four-year-old did i drew a horsey huh how much would you pay for this that's a swastika dude put that away the fuck is the matter with you all right let's take a break and then we'll actually answer this guy's question not about basketball cards but about pokemon cards that's right that's having a moment too good lord thank you to draft kings for sponsoring this episode of our show hey yo draft kings the nfl is back that's correct and the best part of football season is checking out

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My friend and I. Picasso is the goat artist. LeBron is the goat basketball player. Got it. Picasso. I think it's, by the way, it is Picasso. I think you misheard it and you keep repeating it. You're doubling down on how wrong you are.

If you said it once, people would think you misspoke. The fact that you keep saying it makes it clear. Whoever the hell he is, I think he's the greatest artist that ever lived. That's all I wanted to say. That's all I wanted to say. And if that makes me have a good take, then fucking so be it. I think that's pretty neat. If people hear me say that that

uh he's the best artist of all time and they're like oh jake actually knows what he's talking about then maybe you know that's a that's a pretty solid upshot for me i know what you think you are a loser today you're a loser today for sure You are a loser today. You're a loser today. For sure you're a loser. You know nothing and you've overplayed your hand. You said exactly why you wanted to. People said Picassi was a loser too.

Here's the situation, writes Picassi. My friends and I are into Pokemon cards. Kind of dorky, I know, but stay with me. About a week ago, my friend found some decently priced packs at our local card store, and he asked me if I wanted any. I said, sure, give me two packs, and I Venmoed him the $15 that he

spent. We opened our cards together over Discord, and miraculously, I pulled an absolute beast, the Hyper Rare Charizard GX for the layman this card is pretty much the holy grail of modern pokemon cards it's hundreds of dollars ungraded and even in the thousands of range thousands of dollars range if you get a good grade on it like yours is a psa 10 if this guy grades his card and it's a 10 it's worth thousands of dollars herein lies the problem

he's freaking pissed at me after i pulled i obviously went crazy but he sat there stone-faced after i calmed down he said i kind of feel like i deserve that card since i bought it at all and now like a week later he's still barely talked to me so what do i do i really don't feel like i'm in the wrong here but am i do i give him the freaking card do i sell it and give him some of the money i'm here if you bought someone a pack of basketball cards and they pulled a crazy expensive card, would you be pissed? How do you make amends with this guy?

Thank you for all your help. And shout out to Nadpod. Hey, thank you. I mean, no, this dude, this all, he's in the clear. You paid for the cards. I could see this if the cards were a gift like and even then i think it's it's egregious to be like i got you that gift you should give me the card back i i meant to get it for you when it was worthless that's like you gave you gave someone scratchers

for their birthday and it's like now he won ten thousand dollars you don't get the cash otherwise it's not a gift there's's no reward. It's like, hey, well, you do this work for scratching this shit for me. And if you win money, it's mine now. If you get the scratches, it's really showing your hand. Like, I meant to just get you a dollar birthday gift. I didn't mean to get you a $10,000 birthday gift. I'm sad now. You're not worth anything to me. No upside at all at all like if that card that i gave you ends up being worth two thousand dollars one day you'll give me two thousand bucks i'm sure no i will not

you can't want it what are you talking about i bought it for you over zoom okay kick your ass yeah try I'll choke you to death oh my god how'd you do that you punched me in the nose I have a voodoo of you I do I really do do I think at the very

at the very most if you want to like try to I think that your friends not going to stop being pissed at you. Whether or not I think you're right is almost irrelevant. I think you are in the right, but your friend is resolute and stubborn. And I don't think he's going to come around to your point of view. So if you want to make things right, I think the path of slightly less resistance is to be like, I'll split this with you.

You had the idea. You picked the card up. I did pay you for it. And they are technical. Like, after that transaction, I owned the card. You know, like, that's how it would work. But if you're going to be a little dickling, I will split this with you so you don't get all pissy about it okay that's kind of the vibe yeah this guy definitely should have had a deal in place

before like there's there's no use saying oh actually uh i got these cards for you but under the pretense that i'll owe you uh the the profit the fact that you guys didn't discuss that at all means that yeah he doesn't have a like to stand on legally if you want to be nice to him you can give him some of the profit right but again legally i don't think you owe him yeah yeah he's got nothing i do you feel like it's more palatable or less to be like if this card was graded low and it's only worth like 300 bucks versus if it was a PS 10 and it was worth $100,000. I would think if the more money you get, the more you can get. Like if it was worth $100,000, I would probably give the guy that bought the pack that came up with the idea that gave me the pack like $10,000, $15,000.

That way he's excited, but i still have 85 grand but if it's like 300 bucks i think i'm keeping the cash what am i going to give him another 10 for his efforts oh i was i was sort of imagining like if it's worth 200 bucks it's like pretty fun and you could just be like let's split it we each have a hundred bucks what a what a joy but if it's like 50 000 bucks that that like cutting it in half really starts to hurt it's a big old chunk half is that's that's like almost the most you can do i guess the most you can do is give them the entire card but that's crazy i mean no it's not even disgusting yeah yeah i think you say i'm gonna get it graded i'm gonna i graded. Don't worry, I'll give you some of the money.

And then that's- I actually, I did this. I bought a case of basketball cards and I sold off the boxes to friends. So I bought 20 boxes of basketball cards and I just sold them to my friends for what I paid for them because I didn't want to open 20 boxes.

And if they should pull a Michael Jordan card and it gets graded a 10, that's worth 800 bucks. But I'm not like, do all that work, get it graded, sell it, and then give me the money. It's like, you paid me, you paid me for the lotto ticket, you won, mazel, and now you can do whatever you want with it. Yeah, so there is work. How do you get it graded?

Do you mail it? Yes, there's several companies. So it could get fucking bent in the mail. Yeah, you have to put it in a sleeve and then a top loader or a card holder and then wrap it up really nice and send it off to PSA or wherever you want to get it graded.

But these companies, because the trading card business has blown up over the last year, these companies have a line right now of over a million cards waiting to be graded, and they literally have to do it by hand. So there's a six, eight, 10-month waiting list for me to send a raw Michael Jordan card to them and get it back. And I have to pay $20, literally wait six to eight months, and get it back. And it could be worth a PSA 7, because there was a corner bent and it's i paid him twenty dollars and the card's worth like 15 are you wait

do you have one are you going to send it to them i do have cards and i don't know if i'm going to get them graded yet i might wait like a year or two since i'm not eager to sell them right now anyway or uh and then maybe they'll like hire more people get some more graders and speed up the line but don't they like as you as they sit in your house don't they get more like, get some more graders and speed up the line. But don't they like, as you, as they sit in your house, don't they get more, like, isn't there more chance that there'll be a lower grade? Like, isn't it better to just like go? Cause when they grade them, do they vacuum seal them,

put them in like something nice when they send them back to. They put them in exactly this, the thing that you got. Every PSA graded card comes in this vacuum sealed plastic that you can't open up this isn't like open up a bowl it's not sealed with a qr code and a serial number that says it's authentic and it's i think i can open mine up give me one you guess you can crack it open but then it would really ruin the integrity of the hold on i have a hammer oh god he's eating it he's eating the card again don't eat the card again so yeah it takes a while it takes a while to grade it and it's a lot of work and it's annoying so if you do all that work and it comes back at 10

in a year i think that money belongs to you right fair fair fair and squared my god can you imagine pulling a fucking charizard gx you're shitting me with that that's what non-basketball fans feel like when i talk to them about these cards i always feel like i'm talking to like about a poke like if i say dario sarich or a charizard gx it's all gibberish and stupid to you right i mean i knew what charizard is and i don't know the other thing so yeah this is what my parents must think if i ever told them i bought a trading card which i would never do are you kidding me i spent my money on this plastic what a waste of time we did i think that this is just going to be an ongoing trend as like millennials and kids that grew up in the 90s start having money the things that are like

worthwhile to us are nostalgia and like weird shit like that so yeah trading cards have been around for over a hundred years so yeah i mean i used to go to this yeah i used to go to the store and get them but i we should just try to predict the next thing yeah well the next thing is like creating your own marketplace like if we created uh instead of trying to buy a fucking luka donchich and sell it for 2x, why don't we make the marketplace that we get 5% of every person who's buying and selling anything? Let's do Jake and Amir moments. Exactly. So like the three seconds of you shitting your cash in the hijackers. That's a one of one.

That's right. That's a rare pull. That's an amazing pull if you can get that one. And there's 15,000 of them. So you flood the marketplace. That's good. You doing the Henry dance? That's worth a fucking Bitcoin now.

$58,000 for a fucking gif of me doing the dance? All right. That's actually really good. Now we just have to figure out someone who's smart enough to build this marketplace for us but it kind of exists already i'm telling you top shots is just an iteration of something else and i'm sure the nfl will start doing their own situation soon and any tv or movie or uh can get in on it as well it's really really crazy sign up i'll gift you a card i guess i would there's like probably TV shows or movies that I would do it for.

Yeah. Like a Game of Thrones moment or something. Right. If I could own. That's so dumb. It makes no sense. Yeah, because it's not owning. It's not owning.

I don't actually own the moment. I just own this website's portrayal of the moment. That's it. That's it. It's not like you're buying a cell from an animated movie that was actually used. It's like you're buying a reenactment of it. Wild.

Alright. A lot to talk about. A lot to discuss. I'm sure we'll talk about it more as I slip even deeper into a depressed bankruptcy buying and selling these digital cards. And we can talk about it more during the live show. Yes.

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you stop listening to the show so it's a uh uh this is the third blink 182 song that this guy did uh the last one was first date uh and the lyrics i wrote were jake and amir seem to last forever jake and amir will last forever seem to upset you slash you found threatening so i apologize for that uh and he wants to give a shout out to his tiktok at alexander lansi l-a-n-z-i which would be cool so check out alexander lansi's uh tiktok i'm still on tiktok as well so i can i can check that out and i deleted it but everyone else should uh should check it out this closing theme song uh is a little ditty that uh slundy made when he was bored and if you end up i didn't realize slundy threw this one our way that's awesome thanks slundy yeah shout out his ep which is called cocaine lemonade great great title whoa two of my favorite things

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