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Episode Date: November 5, 2020

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but uh oh wait did we promise the morning after yeah but the america wasn't ready for us yet yeah look i mean rules were made to be broken. That much is clear. Nothing gold can stay. Words mean nothing. Yada, yada, et cetera, et cetera. So on and so forth. Right off the bat, how do you feel right now at the time of recording? We should say, just to paint the picture, Biden is leaning towards 264 electoral votes, depending on if you're counting Arizona or not. Still waiting to see if Nevada or Pennsylvania or Georgia tip in his flavor for the win. Michigan has been called. It's a roller coaster. I think I'm feeling every emotion. Most of all, obsessed and anxious, I would say. Obsessively anxious.

Yeah, I know. Non-stop looking at my phone, looking at any data that I can find, any kind of information, any new thing that I can learn. Yeah, morsels of, ooh, they just moved it from 93% reported in Georgia to 94%. Let me compare it. Oh, it moved 61,000 votes. How much are left? Yeah.

Mariscopa! Where's Mariscopa? Where are the returns? When is the data dump happening? Yeah, so there's a lot of there's a lot of that and i think um i don't know i guess like a little bit despondent in in a sense um i need to i'm trying to recalibrate my brain which which like there was every single permutation running through it but i had a great hope that it was going to be like an a landslide an early night a huge rebuke of trump and i would have felt really good and i would be like

celebrating today i was hopeful that that was going to be the outcome i think the worst case scenario one did not happen worst case scenario a legitimate trump win didn't happen um but we're in like scenario number two that uh that i also didn't want but might still end up okay that's right but one it was so so needed that like it was it's not like one in one B it's like one and then also two, three and four and then five for me was also the Senate. Oh wow. Yeah. I mean, that's, I guess maybe my brain has recalibrated a little bit. Like I'm sad about the Senate. I really wanted like McConnell Graham and Collins out.

I wanted that to have been cool. I wanted Doug Jones to get reelected. But I think once I realized that we might lose the presidency, it's just like all hands on deck for this one, this one victory. All right, let's rewind to the top. It's 6.37 p.m. East Coast time yesterday, and they're starting to like release indiana and kentucky and they're like oh uh but trump is up but not as much as he used to be and then you're like oh that's a good sign then they start releasing florida and it's like oh he's doing actually

better than hillary here doing better than hillary here i'm like okay all right hey if florida goes this is a wrap by 8 p.m we can all get dinner together wouldn't that be nice uh optimism at an all-time high at that point i'm like oh i came into here sort of cautiously optimistic biden is doing well in the polls if he's gonna win florida i mean forget about it the rest of them are gonna follow suit until we saw miami dade miami fucked us quite frankly i will never go to florida i'm done i don't care for florida sorry i'm sorry that uh state has become an alabama it's yeah it's not worth us fret and this was the problem for me is that i let florida set the tone for the night i think if i had taken florida off the like if i was like florida's a foregone

conclusion it will be read just the same way i feel about like any of those deep southern states yeah then you start to be like okay so like let's just i don't know that you can be patient and watch the actual votes come in from uh from like these places where biden is now winning you know that's that would be good but because florida was such a bellwether for the way the entire election was going to go and trump outperformed the polls so much in florida it felt like just like 2016 it felt all of a sudden like we were losing the election again, just like 2016. I was getting triggered by that fucking projection on CNN and NBC. That fucking noise.

Yeah, you know what really fucked with people and literally swung millions of dollars on betting sites was the New York Times needle. People really trust the needle. And when the needle starts moving, because that's what people remember from the 2016, they're like, ooh, the needle and when the needle starts moving because that's what people remember from the 2016 they're like oh the needle had it first and then you start looking at the needle for georgia florida and what was the other state that had north carolina yeah those three it was like all likely trump likely trump yeah and you're like oh no the needle i remember

this feeling and suddenly when the early returns in the Midwest came in, it's like, Trump is also winning in Michigan and Ohio, and oh, my God, it's fucking happening again, and you're sending me real estate in Queensland. You're sending me A-frames in Canada. You're going for it. No, that A-frame is in Noosa. Oh, is it?

Yeah. I'm all in on Noosa. i want to go to australia but maybe i won't have to that's when that was the low point it was like around i think it must have been like 9 10 11 p.m pacific time here so it's like around midnight your time everything started to feel exactly like 2016 and then it's only the polls gave us more hope it's like what no biden was up 11 in michigan biden was up nine right in he's always why was he down how is he down eight are they cheating what the fuck is happening right the polls are like they're always wrong just enough for trump to win that's what what we need to learn. Yes. Like, why?

Why is it off by that exact amount to make it an 11,000 vote lead? Well, first of all, all the votes are not counted yet. So maybe by the time the votes are all counted, it will be a similar polling error to 2016. Or it might be smaller. I don't think so. We don't know what the final polling thing is we don't know we don't know what the final polling thing is gonna we don't know what it's gonna be it was it was very big in florida yeah but in total florida huge era era huge huge god damn it huge error in florida yes

major but i think the other ones might be more in line with the 2016 polling error, which is still bad. So fucking fix the polling error. No more polls then. The thing that has to be fixed is the fixation on the polls. Like, I just, you don't have to care about them. You don't have, like, I think they exist and they should exist for the campaigns to decide where they should spend their money and where they should go but they are not for us yeah they are not for us to look at and to be like good we're in good shape here it's not for us it's for like internal people it we don't we cannot care or think that we're safe because of the polls because we are not this is where i differ with

some of my twitter friends a lot of people are mad at nate silver and i sort of go to bat for nate silver people hate nate silver i love nate silver okay so we're on the same page i'm like nate is not polling he's aggregating the polls you're reading what he's compiling and you just are mad because he's telling you what the range of outcomes i. I think that's fine. But people are like, fuck you, you're wrong, you keep giving us hope, or you're saying one thing and another thing happens. By the way, he said 90% chance Biden was going to win, and Biden is probably going to win. That's where we're at right now. So he wasn't wrong. And he was analyzing some pretty incorrect polls. So that's pretty good, good i think and he was also saying like exactly the path that trump had like he was saying he said that like 10 to 15

chance of winning is very small but it's not impossible and the places where it was close were all of these swing states and all of these battleground states and yeah i don't know it like people are mad at nate silver i remember being mad at him in 2016 when it felt like he was casting more doubt on the elect like clinton's chances than other people i'm like just stop it with your like just fucking admit that this dude's gonna lose so i can feel better uh and then he won and that people were mad that he got it wrong so i don't think he can win we read the polls for peace of mind and then when it gives it to us we're mad that we were duped this whole time like did you want me to feel this level of anxiety i can't i can't sleep for three hours a night every night for four years

straight so at least i was lied to for four years god i was i was just thinking today about how long four years feels like four four years has been a long time we can't do it again we cannot do it again the morning after trump feels like the last uh episode we recorded which is pretty a pretty fun listen to because we are despondent during it. I think slightly better this time around. It feels like 10 years has passed since then and also like two weeks. And of the last four years, I felt like half of it was yesterday. Yesterday morning feels like three months ago. I don't even remember what I was doing.

Time truly has no meaning at all whatsoever. So while this is happening, you're not tuned into the betting aspect of it. But I was like, oh, I bet on some Biden earlier on. And I'm like tracking the Vegas odds, basically, like how he's doing amongst gamblers, because those guys don't give a shit about polls. It's just about like what's actually being bet on and before when the midwest was trending to trump and he had taken florida and he was gonna take ohio um he was he went from a like two to one favorite to a four to one underdog a hundred dollar bet on biden would have won you four hundred dollars basically vegas was saying

there's a 25 chance biden's gonna win and i'm like oh my god it's happening again it's going it's happening and then do you remember where things started to turn around a little bit um i think well yeah i mean arizona when arizona closed and uh it seemed like Biden could flip Arizona. Yep. That was it. Yeah. I think that was, that was the big one. And then,

I mean, just knowing that some of the, like the Midwest, like blue wall States didn't have anything reported from their like main cities and that Trump was like outperforming or sorry uh trump was underperforming and biden was overperforming in some of those counties that was a good moment which which wall guy which interactive mapsman were you watching the most who did who stole your heart um you know i i am a cornacky head i was on msnbc i think like there was who's the the cnn guy is what's his name john

john gray i think yeah he's he's really good i like him a lot um but i just i don't like the other cnn coverage as much i like the msnbc because i i just love kornacki i mean i'm just a major kornacki he He is zaddy to me. I was the other way. I was more CNN, and then when CNN was down, I flipped over to MSNBC. Yeah, I was the other way. I think I was on just straight-up NBC for a second. I was watching Chuck Todd control their wall,

and I'm like, no, no, no, no. Chuck Todd is not a wall guy. You don't get the screen you aren't screen boy you're like you gotta be interview boom boom yeah you gotta be a guy who's dexterous hitting counties showing me like whenever i wanted to know how did hillary do boom we're seeing how hillary does and like these guys they are it's so like they love it so much that like even when it like cuts away you still see kornacki just fucking all over the place. He's just curious himself, even when he's not reporting.

So they're showing stuff like Biden's doing great in Arizona. In fact, and it's like after Florida fucked us, after Texas didn't go blue, I'm like, he's just going to sweep the southern states like Arizona has no chance. And they're like, you know what? Biden is doing pretty fucking well here. But they were still so nervous to call it for him. And Fox News, of all people, were like, yep, Arizona Biden. Whoa. What?

That's a little early, don't you think? Fox News? Is this like a reverse jinx? Other places still haven't even called it yet, right? Yes. New York Times has not called it. CNN has not called it. FiveThirtyEight hasn't called it. of times has not called it right uh cnn has not called it 538 fox news

fox news not only called it they got reprimanded for it and this guy went on fox news and was like i straight up i i think he's he's clinched it it's over he's not gonna lose so he's like not only he called it he got pushback and he fucking doubled down he's so sure of it that guy should be president um so then i'm like okay things are starting to flip and then we hear about the biggest fucking revelation of all these midwestern states oh by the way they haven't counted any of their mail-in yet they haven't counted any of your absentee so it's not like we're hoping for 60 40 biden because it's a 60 40 biden county these are like 95 to 5 for biden like no republican does mail and i guess in

milwaukee the the whole thing like makes me realize how like how like orchestrated it must have been from trump right like he's he he's been casting doubt on the mail-in for such a long time like did he did he see this far ahead or it is like does he just do crazy shit and it works out and he like grasped onto it because this does seem like there was like some forethought it's like yes same day same day turnout trended republican and we're counting the absentee ballots, and now Trump is trying to, like, pause that. But, like... Yeah, not only that, but I read some tweets that, like, Republican lawmakers were the ones that even dictated the order.

Like, Michigan's like, we should count these absentee first, or, like, we should count the mail-in earlier. And I don't know how it worked detail-wise, but I guess Republican lawmakers were the ones who were like, no, count that last, so that, you know, it's exactly what that clip of Bernie Sanders on TV explaining exactly what would happen. This red mirage, Trump will say that he won, and then votes will come in, and he'll claim that they're fraudulent and want to fight it in the Supreme Court. So, that's what's happening

right now, and what is going to be determined is i guess one who wins legitimately and if it's biden it's still not over like yeah there's relief but there's not like celebration yet because trump is like yeah we'll go to the supreme court and you're like oh can you do that i don't know enough about the government. Yeah, I don't know either. But the one thing that I'm fearful of is that every batshit crazy thing he's tried to do does work. Like, it doesn't. How is it possible? Why won't you die?

Every single time we're like, you can't do that. Like, don't't actually do that it's like well it's happening did you see that it's happened like he can't yeah he can't claim victory like oh he's all right that's what's happening he's doing that like all right but like that doesn't actually mean anything he can't just like take it to court like you sure he filed a supreme court thing to take it to Pennsylvania. What if he wins? Like, all right, he won't. He won Pennsylvania, but he can't do it in Georgia. All right, he did it in Georgia. So I feel like, I still feel like nervous that that can happen.

But I'm also, how do you feel about just like the state of America? We'll come back to like day of. Nearly like one level above the the lowest level the lowest level would be trump winning again and then like one level above that is biden having to squeak out a very close contested battle in which trump has gained votes since 2016 that's yeah i'm i'm sad for the future i'm i'm despondent about our broken country still because the weird thing is is like you see a lot of like crazy ass maga people and you're like oh they're not all like that but then they almost must be because that is those are the mascots those are like the

main people those are the guys on the team yeah but they must not i mean he's gonna get 68 to 70 million votes you know 40 fucking percent of the country um no less than that there's 400 million uh 20 percent of the country yeah 40 percent 48 percent of the voting um number uh they don't all go to the the rallies do they like no they don't all go to the rallies, do they? No, they don't all go to the rallies, but I'll tell you what. You know what comment I really am fully behind at this point? Remember when Hillary said

the bucket of deplorables? The basket of deplorables? And everyone was like, that's a huge mistake. You should not have done that. Like, you... Yes! 100%! Yes! There's not... there's not there's not like there yeah they're a dumpster of deployer deplorables they're fully all deplorable you can't like the guy you cannot vote for him and i think there's a lot of um casual trump fans it's like almost like a if you

liken it to a sports metaphor, not every football fan is painting their face and going into the goal line and fucking crushing beers. But a lot of them are silently rooting for home because they hate the other team. So I think there's a lot of rich, white, normal people who are like, Trump is fucking crazy, man. I mean, he's nuts, but like, I'm not going to let a socialist run America. So he's got my vote. Right. So, but like, even at that point, there have to be a little crazy. Cause like, if you studied anything, you would know that Biden is not like the far liberal left that people are like afraid of. He's not one of the crazy Democrats like Trump is trying to say. Like, how can you be a reasonable person and be like,

I don't like Trump, but I really don't want a freak show like Joe Biden in there. He's been in Congress. He's been in the Senate for 47 years. What are you talking about? He's very pro-police. I think people are afraid of him dying or going away soon and giving it to Kamala Harris, who's like, a woman gasp of color oh

no it's over that's what the socialists are that's what the uber liberal uh elite want and i gotta stop it with my vote and i'm not gonna tell a pollster i'm racist because they'll judge me so i'll just quietly go about voting for trump i I guess I'm like, what I wished happened was that the vast majority of the country rebuked the president. That's what I want. But I mean, it didn't happen. There should have been like, who looked at the last four years and was like, I have no notes. In fact, I prefer it that way. Like with climate change, you can deny it and it and say oh who knows what will happen in 40

years coronavirus i thought was like all right this is climate change in hyperspeed it's happening right now a thousand people died he just said nobody's dying that's wrong he doesn't get my vote take your pick of literally any issue like if you don't it's true any issue at all you all you have to do is just look at who the president is and be like, he riles up people around this issue. Like a president is just supposed to try to unite people. That is it. Just try to like calm things down. Keep things copacetic.

A steady hand at the wheel. It feels like we had for Americaica's never ever been perfect but it feels like we had like a car that was pretty good it had its quirks um a weird history it was like in a flood or something but it was working it was fine it's a good it was a good car that we loved and then it was like sort of breaking down and we gave a crazy guy a hammer and he just like has been hacking at the engine for four years and joe biden like whether you like him or not he's at least a mechanic he's like give him the wrench and let him see if he can do something because this other guy is just like he's he's taking a dump under the hood.

There's like, he's not a president. And the more we dislike him, the more his base likes him. Like everything we dislike, like the dancing is insane. So we're obviously going to make fun of it. And then he posts the dancing and everyone's going crazy. Like what an awesome dancer. So it's like, okay, whatever we think, they think the exact opposite about us. Yes. answer so it's like okay whatever we think they think the exact opposite about us yes and that is my biggest problem is that like i think it's because of him that that we've retreated so far into the corners like after the morning after trump that that old episode that we did we talked

about how we needed to like try to connect with people and, and bring them back to reality. And I feel like four years of him has pushed them even further away from reality. Like now it's just so it's so tribalized that we're not ever going to be able to connect with someone because as soon as you hear that they voted for Trump, you're like, Oh,

we're like not on the same team. We stand for none of the same things. We fundamentally hate each other. And it's not where we're supposed to be. it's not where we're supposed to be but then all right so here's the my other thought is just that i at this point i'm disappointed in america but as long as biden can eke out the victory as long as we can get this guy out the fuck out of there. That put, like, I'm, I guess I'm ready to be tribalized. Like I,

I don't care about these deplorable Americans that tried to elect a racist rapist. I, as long as he's gone, as long as they're sad, I'm happy. There's a lot of them. There's a fuck ton of them,

but I'm just like, they're not my friends. They're, I don them they're gone they're not this morning this morning i started following some of them because it's like oh i didn't want to follow them for four years as they were bragging but like it is kind of fun to see in my timeline of someone being like we could still win arizona and then suddenly i'm the one saying like how like to them i'm like oh this is fun i get to troll the trollers a little bit. Have you been reverse trolling? Yeah, well, it's not reverse trolling.

I was the original troll. They were reverse trolling me. Still no responses from the guy that runs Students at Trump or another sort of white supremacist-looking guy who I started to follow by searching for maga iowa stuff like that i feel like i'm getting under their skin no one's responded to you yet no god no yeah they wouldn't do that are you waiting for that biden w and then you're then you're really gonna go ham well everything they're saying is like what we would say like imagine they were they were as sure as

we were uh that their candidate was gonna win so like imagine we wake up and trump won by 25 a percent of the vote we'd be like this is fucked up this is rigged this is not right and then if biden was like we looked at the polls and something is really messed up we would also be like what the hell what should we do like we got a revolt we got to do something about it and that's exactly how they feel they feel like their their election was stolen the the leader says so the leader claimed he said i claimed pennsylvania when there was still over a million votes to be counted yeah stop the votes stop the counting in pennsylvania recount in michigan recount in arizona stop it in with no recount wisconsin stop in michigan stop pennsylvania you we're only down by a hundred thousand in arizona we gotta keep counting meanwhile

they're up by or we're up by ten thousand in uh michigan which i feel like is insurmountable so let's stop there it's so clearly orchestrated telestrated who who can not see this guy for the con man that he is i did hey i mean i think that's part of the issue is that everyone knows he's a con man and like you're saying is like because we're the two teams it doesn't matter if they like him or not or think that he's lying or not because what he doing, what they want him to do is get under our skin and piss us off and own us. And that's, as long as he's doing that, his craziness is like what they expect and want. It's like-

I wonder if this team is like egging him on or like, are they telling what to do? Or is it like they're treating like a baby with a with a shotgun and like all right easy just relax or is he like the star of the football team where they're like yeah fucking donald tell him tell him say you fucking won pennsylvania you're the man you could do whatever you want i don't know i really don't know and then they have to walk behind him cleaning up his mess rudy giuliani has to like walk around him with a fucking dossier filled with empty papers,

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Thank you, Squarespace. Didn't you, like, this is the experience I had. As I'm watching Biden be up and like up like 10 000 in wisconsin or whatever like it it had the same feeling um as when i would like watch a golden state warriors game and they were down by four and it's like that's the same as them winning by 10 like it's it's something is gonna happen this guy like will pull out a victory and I, like I can just see this lead going away. And then for some reason, then like, you know,

Biden's down like a couple hundred thousand votes in Ohio. And I'm like, all right, well, let's, are there any liberal places left where we can get some? There turns out there were not. Yeah. When you're behind, I'm like thinking that Biden, well, are there any liberal places left where we can get some? Turns out there were not. Yeah, when you're behind, I'm thinking that Biden can pull off a miracle. And when Trump is behind and Biden is up, I'm just thinking that he's completely fucked. So were you awake? This was like 2 a.m., 3 a.m. Pacific time.

I don't know what your sleep schedule was. Were you awake when they realized that Wisconsin was slowly coming back to Biden because they were like counting they got the data dump of votes from Milwaukee no I went to bed before that because I they were like on all of these places they were basically like these liberal counties are left their absentee ballot is left but they aren't counting it yet and it's like these are going to be reported tomorrow and i was just like i i can't just stay up and watch like trump continue to run up these numbers i need to just go to bed i woke up in the middle of the night and i was like don't look at your phone don't look at your phone don't look at it's too

late won't be able to minute you're awake yeah and then i i looked real quick or real quick and i saw the wisconsin thing and i was like i was able to sleep just because i remember in 2016 i went to bed before they called the election and i was like maybe i'll wake up and it will be a miracle but like it was the writing was already on the wall and instead i woke up at like 4 a.m and i like just saw that they had like called florida and it was like basically it was over so i woke up to knowing that it was over and this time i woke up to knowing that we wouldn't have an answer which is kind of how i went to bed so it was good ultimately so what what was your sleep schedule i went to sleep pretty early like i think i went to bed. So it was good, ultimately. So what was your sleep schedule?

I went to sleep pretty early. Like, I think I went to bed around midnight. Oh, wow. That is early. And I woke up at 7. Oh, wow. So fairly normal sketch. Fairly normal, except for the 20 minutes I spent at like 4 a.m. on my phone.

But even then, I was just like, okay. Trump didn't win. That's all I needed to know. Yeah. I was going to go to bed around one and then they were like, Wisconsin is walking in with hard drives filled with new votes and we're going to get those to you right away. I'm like, all right, it's 1am. I'm just going to keep going. And then the votes finally came in at two and it's like, all right, Biden's in the lead in Wisconsin and we're supposed to hear from Michigan soon. I'm like, all right, let's fucking stay out until Michigan. And then suddenly it's like 3.30 in the morning. I'm like, this is absurd. They're not counting anymore. Everyone is asleep in Pennsylvania. I'm going to go to sleep too. I go to sleep at 3.30. I wake up at 7.30 to check, and it's like,

Michigan is flipped too. I'm like, all right, now I'm in it. I wake up completely. I only slept four hours. Wow. So you're all day watching TV, looking at your phone, looking at your computer. Have you like taking your eyes off of a screen today? Yeah, very minimally. Wake up, seeing Michigan. That's great news. And then just waiting on Pennsylvania slowly trickling in. By the way, there's like full states that are just like sitting at like North Carolina.

Just do something already. you're at 95 there's like what a hundred thousand votes left what's going on there north carolina i'm like flicking the map like do something yeah i don't know i really don't know i'm like all right so georgia is 91 but you know very blue states votes coming in crunching the numbers how much is left how much does he need to win uh and then like 91 reported becomes 92 okay so they are awake let's just keep counting and we'll get it all out now we're gonna take a break yeah like what are you doing so like the future of fucking american democracy is riding on you guys are you counting but not reporting reporting but not counting and this is the other thing like are they not allowed to make a better process? Like, I feel like Trump talking so much about like the vote count and the like

absentee ballots, all of this stuff. Like why not just do a really good, efficient job? And then he won't be able to, to say that stuff. Like, i don't want him to be setting the stakes he shouldn't he shouldn't set the rules but couldn't we just have reported michigan really really fast what if we just what if they just found what if they're like

we know it's going to be tough but let's just count all the votes the absentee ones right away and then i think they didn't know to what extent they'd be for joe like they assumed it would be pro biden but they didn't know if it was 80 20 or 90 10 or even more they cheated quite frankly so how do you how are you the election how are you feeling do you feel like um biden's gonna win yeah i'm feeling confident that biden's gonna win i hope it happens tonight because i don't want to go through another night of like waking up in the middle of the night just to check to see what's going on like are they counting did it call did it do what i mean he's so fucking close i don't know why arizona i guess

arizona is doing another one of those dumping information into the system soon. So maybe that'll 9 PM, two and a half hours. That'll get the New York times and CNN to call Arizona for Joe, hopefully. And then it's just literally any other state, Georgia, I'll take Pennsylvania.

I'll take Nevada. Nevada's just sitting there waiting for the fucking postman to show up. Like, yeah, the mail is supposed to be coming today. We'll probably get around to tomorrow why is Nevada like Nevada isn't supposed to be close that one's supposed to be a democratic one yeah I mean he is unlike every other state where he's behind Joe is already in the lead there before the votes come in so like you can almost make a case that you can call that if you can call Arizona but they want to be extra careful because if they call Nevada they call the entire fucking election and if you can call Arizona, but they want to be extra careful because if they call Nevada, they call the entire fucking election. And if you're wrong about that, you're fucked.

Yeah. And I guess part of the problem is that Trump, like, because they can't call this stuff, Trump is just able to, to like point to that, them not being able to call it and then like the counts being hard for people to understand. he's allowed to just say that it's that it's wrong so it's annoying that it can't just be like you know a wave of good information for us that you can't repudiate he just has to slowly tiptoe towards the finish line that by the time it gets there they'll be like yeah we've already fucking known for a day just say it already and then once they do then it's back to already fucking known for a day just say it already and then once they do then it's back to the fucking courts and seeing if trump can steal it in a way that isn't

i mean i hope i hope the republican senators and lawmakers start turning on trump some of them already have based on his comments of like we are winning in pennsylvania chris christie's like yeah he probably shouldn't have said that and mike p Pence is like, well, we have to count the votes, right? We're not that fucking insane, are we? Get in line, Pence! Sorry, sir. I was just saying.

Everything kind of hinges on, yeah. No, I was saying that, like, yeah, you should count the votes, but I think you want to, too. Not the bad ones. No, not the bad ones. I mean, what's a bad vote, if you think about it? There are always like just like the president means like oh what are you talking about the the president just means this the president means that you can't count votes that were mailed that they were they were universally mailed no no you you very in very plain letters wrote we are claiming pennsylvania we cannot keep counting the votes of pennsylvania

that's the most anti-democratic thing a president has ever claimed looking at my crazy here looking at his twitter feed it's just like all of the tweets are labeled as false information you have to click through all of them yeah i said it's like the uh the end of terminator where he's turning into all those things that he used to be in lava like right before he dies so trump is like slowly dying and he's just like oh it's rigged also benghazi i'll check her emails don't count the votes count the votes and then he'll like turn it to just molten metal no collusion no No collusion. No Pennsylvania, no Georgia, and most importantly, no collusion.

What if... This one other state thing is frustrating, because I just feel like Georgia is going to be tough to pick off. Pennsylvania is going to piss me off somehow. Now they're saying Pennsylvania is going to be firmly biden by the time they get through it like it went from 74 recording to 86 and he's um cut into a 700 000 vote lead to 300 000 so they're saying he's going to catch up with some room even to spare let's hope uh the cities will save us detroit will never forsake you milwaukee thank

you philadelphia atlanta all the big states in arizona saving the day who knew yeah cities that's where it's at the electoral college is bad the senatorial system is awful that's insane there's no reason on earth that we should have two senators from every state. Why do they do that? The system is so bad. Joe Biden is up 72 million to 68 million. That is good. We don't need to keep sweating. They should do American Idol rules.

That is it. Why do they do an electoral college? Supposedly, it's more fair, but i think it probably overcorrects it and becomes almost too reliant on smaller states yeah i mean the fact that you carry a state like california 65 to 32 should be worth more than winning like ohio by eight plus i don't know what's another texas by four yeah god i i i definitely have had enough of like the we could win texas we could win florida these like flipping states for the first time every single they're like just every single election they're they're always talking about how it's like the democratic dream

of flipping texas and it's good and it could happen this cycle yeah i mean texas is a lot closer than like louisiana mississippi alabama and we won't flip those ones either like so we i guess we just have to keep hammering on Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, the big 10 states. Yeah, or just Philadelphia, Detroit, Madison, and Milwaukee. Trump barely won Florida against Hillary. I assumed sexism plus mishandling of the coronavirus would equal a 2% jump in the other direction. Instead, he grew in Florida. That white Cuban-American vote, though.

Yeah, what the hell? Cuban-Americans? I didn't even think about specifically how they vote and who they vote for until they completely and utterly let Joe Biden down. Yeah. I guess it's an anti-communism thing. They all come from a communist country

and they hate communism. Which should, in theory theory be fine because the biden's not one what are your thoughts on trump though do you like him or is it just like uh vote for the lesser of two evil situation just you're just voting for the guy that told you the other guy was a communist you didn't think at all you didn't think you didn't you didn't look into your own heart and say but is the other guy a communist or is it just in that guy's interest that i believe that he's a communist which one is it uh we're so fucked so we're surrounded by 70 million trump supporters that's too many

fortunately we're not surrounded by them we're they're they're they're out there on the outskirts i mean i looked at la i'm, it's not like 90-10. It's like 75-25. There's still a million Trump supporters in LA. Yeah. No, they are among us. That's definitely true. Not okay.

It is. Yeah, it's not. But, you know, I think as long as we can squeak out that victory, as long as we come away with him going away that is that's the whole ball game that's all that matters i wish it were better but it's a world where he concedes where he like sticks around and lets joe into this white house and they meet their wives and talk about a peaceful transfer of power no he's gonna like be kicking and screaming and crying what's the

thing of like the militia walking in there and forcibly removing him that'll be pretty fun to see i hope that happens that'd be incredible but like also that could not happen the they could be like this it could just end up uh ruining our democracy so we'll see if that happens. That'll be interesting. That'll be a fucking nightmare. So, you never know. I guess the Senate race in Maine had the Democrat winning every single poll by like 5 to 11 and she lost.

That's right. Is there a secret, what's her name in Maine, the Republican Senator that won? Susan Collins. Yeah, is there a shy Susan Collins vote in Portland, Maine that we don't know about, too? Is that what it is? Is that what gave Maine her a Republican Senate seat? I have no idea.

It's wild. I have no, that makes no sense to me. She's so unpopular. Maybe they did. Maybe they did fudge. I can also accuse people of cheating. It's fun. Oh, yeah. That's possible. It mean you guys they lost a bunch of votes they lost a bunch of portland main votes those were liberal votes those should be counted yeah is there any truth to this

300 000 usps ballots that are somewhere out there i thought i i like just read on Twitter that they weren't lost, that they were just like not scanned or not reported or something. But I'm not. I can't recall now. Where were those 300 ballots, 300,000 ballots from? I don't remember. Florida, maybe. There's too much misinformation. Yeah.

We just need time to go by. But maybe or or in an ideal world,e squeaks out the win yeah that's 270 exactly and then more time goes by and we continue counting and we continue to run it up i want to rest easy yeah then and then get like the the bigger w further down the road when they find more votes when the when the absentees all come in that's good but i'm not waiting for it yeah if he gets nevada which people are assuming that'll get him to 270 even but he can also get pennsylvania georgia which would bring him over 300 which is what trump i believe said was a landslide victory so right i guess it's a landslide if i mean if that happens great but if like arizona if Arizona and Nevada might be called tonight,

then it will be over. That would be nice. That would be really nice. We could fall asleep, not have to wake up in the middle of the night, check our phones, go back to caring about sports like we used to. God, will you start watching the EPL again? Yeah, I guess so. I'll have to find some more hours in the day

now that I'm not looking at basketball or polls that don't matter at all. Yeah, polls guess so. I'll have to find some more hours in the day now that I'm not looking at basketball or polls that don't matter at all. Yeah, polls don't matter. The only thing that matters is Harry Kane and Gareth Bale. What a strike! Yeah, I'm looking. They're 0-8 this season so far, it looks like. The Hotspur.

Yeah. They're actually not Spurs. They haven't been matched actually not started supporting them holy shit harry kane is blaming you for that this is crazy how does he know he knows who i am that's awesome i guess he thinks you're a cursed fan a cancer man this is so cool god damn it uh all right well thanks for listening thanks for voting uh i guess we can continue our podcast seemingly for now i mean we don't know a huge deal we might we don't know i don't think we can make a call actually too close to call our podcast is too close the podcast is too close to call but

maybe we'll know on monday i mean before arizona saved us yesterday it it was seemingly more likely than not we would have to end the show so fortunately we've come out of that hole yeah well let's do another show in tempe because um that i want to reward arizona and we'll never we will never do a show in florida covid covid all they talk about is covid and you know what he's right we're not talking about covid COVID. And you know what? He's right. We're not talking about COVID today. So maybe he knows what we're talking about. 100,000 cases today. Whatever.

All right. We'll be back on Monday. Joe, Joe, Joe. Let's go. Let's go, go, go. That was a Hiddem Original.