Sense of Soul - Creating a New Earth Through a New Consciousness

Episode Date: September 30, 2024

Today on Sense of Soul we have Morgue. You may know him from the hit tv show, Freakshow where he had his audience on the end of there seats swallowing swords. However for many, he is  known as a thought leader, and founder of The Neogenian system. Morgue’s successful YouTube channel has over 468K subscribers, with over 35 million views. His strong message is about creating a new humanity and a new earth, through a new consciousness. You can catch Morgue each week on YouTube, instagram at Morgue Official and his podcast Dawn of the New Earth, you can now listen to on Spotify. Shanna has been a follower of Morgue’s for years and is one of his Patreon members. Like Shanna, Morgue seeks the truth and gives voice to the stories untold and shares the same purpose to awaken the consciousness of humanity. In this episode Morgue joined Shanna to share the release of his new 5 book series on The Neogenian System, available on Amazon. This system is a new way of being that allows us to shed our old selves and embrace our true selves. This titles of this series are Neogenesis: Dawn of the New Mind, Metarationalism: The New Science of the Mind, Cosmogenesis: The Awakening Universe, Telecracy: Creating the New Earth and Psychegenesis: Self and Universe Transformation, the first 3 books are available now. Click here! Learn more about the Neogenian system at F www.youtube.com/@morgueofficial https://www.morgueofficial.com www.instagram.com/MorgueOfficial TikTok: @morgue_official Learn more about Sense of Soul at www.senseofsoulpodcast.com

Hello, my soul-seeking friends. It's Shanna. Thank you so much for listening to Sense of Soul Podcast. Enlightening conversations with like-minded souls from around the world. Sharing their journey of finding their light within, turning pain into purpose, and awakening to their true sense of soul. If you like what you hear, show me some love and rate, like, and subscribe and consider becoming a sense of soul Patreon member where you will get ad-free episodes, monthly circles,

and much more. Now go grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. It's time to awaken. Hey listeners, if you haven't, please leave Sense of Soul a review and follow or subscribe so that you don't miss an episode. I have amazing episodes coming up you won't want to miss. And I also have a circle coming up. You can follow Sense of Soul on Patreon and get the link to join, or you can become a Patreon member to help support Sense of Soul podcast. I'd really appreciate it so that I can continue to bring you amazing souls like my guests today. So years ago, a listener who became

a dear friend of mine, she knew I was studying the Gnostic Gospels and she sent me a YouTube channel. This very extraordinary guy who looked like a rock star. He was giving voice to the voiceless and was sharing stories untold. I listened and I followed and I learned so much and my journey seemed to align with his. And not only was this guy very intelligent, I've come to find out that he can even swallow a sword. You may know him from the freak show, but I know him as a thought leader and the founder of the neogenian system, a new system, a new way of being that allows us to shed our old selves and embrace our true selves. His successful YouTube channel has over 468,000 subscribers with over 35 million views. His strong message is about creating a new humanity and a new earth through a new consciousness.

You can watch him on YouTube, Instagram, at morgofficial. And now you can listen to him on Spotify. I'm super honored and excited that he is with us today. I absolutely adore his kind soul. Please welcome Morg. Hello. Hey, how are you? I'm doing well. Can you hear me okay? I can. Can you hear me okay? Yep, I can hear you great. This is actually my first episode that I'll be doing in this space. It's a really nice space. I love the background.

Thank you. I love her. Yeah. Can't see all of her. She's homeless. Yeah. So I'm super excited. You know, years ago, a listener of mine had sent me over your channel because she knew that I was studying the Gnostic Gospels.

Oh, great. And I just aligned so much with you. And I became a Patreon member. And I love that you're interested in the Gnostic Gospels. Oh, great. And I just aligned so much with you. And I became a Patreon member. And I love that you're interested in the Gnostic Gospels. That's very cool. Yeah. You know, I just give you a little background. You know, I grew up Catholic.

I'm from New Orleans originally. I live in Colorado now. I definitely appreciate that you talk about, like, religious trauma syndrome. Yeah. That's something I really connected with. And I'm so glad that people actually give name to it now, because I think a lot of people are experiencing that. I think so as well. And it's something that's really swept under the rug. People don't like to talk about it. They look at religion as being, you know, mostly benign or a good set of moral values. And they don't really consider the psychological damage that it does to so many people, especially young children growing up.

It's pretty bad. Yeah. And it doesn't have to be actual trauma, you know, like the priest doesn't have to, you know, do something horrible to you. I feel like it's all of that dogma and the conditions that I was really having to shed. And I had to go through like a grieving process, like, and I still do sometimes I get mad, like, you know, like the stages of grief I went through. Oh, I completely understand that. I can, and you're right. It doesn't have to be, you know, just, just the psychological damage of teaching a child about hell that you're, you know, you teach a child they're dirty, broken, sinful, flawed, and that there's this being that's observing their every move and every thought it's even mind control. And if you's this being that's observing their every move and every thought. It's even mind control.

And if you make this being angry, you're going to be tortured for eternity. You know, that does a lot of psychological damage. And like you said, for me as well, it took a long time for me to get out of the church. I didn't just wasn't overnight. Took years. It's a long, long process of getting over all that conditioning that's instilled in one. I actually was fortunate to also be a part of

one of your lives when you were triggering yourself. It was like a Jesus video game or something. Oh my God. So funny. I laughed so hard. Oh, I'm glad you found my pain entertaining. No, it's true because, you know, sometimes in my streams, like I'm fine talking about Gnosticism because it's so different from, you know, it's the complete opposite of modern Christianity. But yeah, diving into like actual Bible topics or playing Jesus Christ video games kind of reminds me of that place that I was back then. It's like, oh, this is so ridiculous. Especially when you're able to kind of step back and look at everything as a whole. And systems like the Neo-Genesis, I can't wait to discuss. But if you don't mind just sharing a little bit of your background,

I mean, many might know you from Freak Show and Sword Swallowing. I got to see you do that before too on a live. Oh, did you? Oh, nice. Interesting. Yeah, it's funny. People originally knew me as like from being on the Freak Show and Sword Swallowing and didn't know that I had this philosophical aspect. Now it's kind of the reverse. People are familiar with my philosophical work and they're like, wait, you saw the swords as well. But I got into this. You know, I grew up in a strict Christian household and leaving Christianity is what really made me strive for a number of things, particularly trying to understand reality as lucidly as possible. And just constantly, you know, being in the mindset of exploration and pushing oneself.

And this led to eventually led to sword swallowing in a roundabout way. It was basically because I was inspired by Nietzsche's philosophy of self-overcoming. And I had a lot of inbuilt fears. I had a fear of public speaking. So I would take public speaking classes and do open mic nights and do street performances to get over that. I had a fear of hypodermic needles and I would end up piercing. I started piercing myself every day to get over that. I don't recommend anyone do that, but that's what I did. And this kind of led me to see just like how far I could push the body. And this is eventually what got me into my stunt work, my sword swallowing, all the different acts that I do. And the acts are very symbolic for me.

You know, I laid on a bed of razor blades and broke a mirror across my chest to symbolize destroying the old self and creating the new self. I've swallowed the scythe to represent overcoming the fear of death. So a lot of my stunt work is symbolically tied to some of the philosophical topics that I discuss as well. So that's how I got into the sideshow freak show. I was on a couple of seasons of a TV series that documented the freak show that I hosted. And in tandem, while doing all this, I was also interested in understanding reality. So this led me to studying occultism, esoterica, philosophy, mathematics, quantum physics, altered states of consciousness, and developing a system of understanding existence as lucidly as possible as well. So I kind of was doing both of these things in tandem with each other. Well, as good as you are swallowing a sword, I mean, I tell you what,

you are really good at what you do. You are such a good teacher, Mark. I really, truly appreciate it. Yeah. You're really good at just talking about subjects that are a little taboo or heresy. Well, thank you. I appreciate that. I want people to be able to understand as easily as possible.

And that's the thing. Either these topics are considered taboo or they're extremely difficult to understand or they're scattered across all these different disciplines. And I just want to make the information, you know, it's not about like trying to convert people or anything like that.

It's about making the information available easily for those who want it. You've also given a voice to what I would call the divine feminine stories of like Norea and Lilith and stories we haven't heard before. Absolutely. Because modern Christianity and, you know, just Christianity, fundamentalist Christianity has really turned it into like a patriarchal system and tried to erase all the voices of the divine feminine from religion. And there are so many inspirational characters like Asherah, the wife of God. And like you had mentioned, Lilith is another fabulous character, as well as Sophia in the Gnostic Gospels, and Barbalo, who is like the mother of everything, the first emanation of the source that births all reality, you know, is Barbalo, the mother,

and Norea, Eve's daughter, who takes on the archons and triumphs over them with power and light and fire. One of the things that I really like about the Gnostic Gospels is how much they emphasize the power of the feminine. I think that's amazing. I think that's something the church is very afraid of. It's really amazing. The stories that had I grown up with would have been extremely powerful for me. And I think that it is so powerful just as a woman. But, you know, I mean, I share these stories with my daughters and letting them know, wow, this was an independent woman who refused to lay beneath,

right? She wasn't some witch or, you know, hag as they end up calling her. But, you know, she was the first virgin, which means independent woman. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. I love that. And it's a lot of themes usually of males trying to dominate the divine feminine and the divine feminine rising up against that like you know like you had just mentioned like lilith and the same with the story of norea and norea you know it's part of the gnosticism so the god of the bible is looked at as an evil being and he tries to force himself on norea and that's when she calls down light from the true realm and him and his archons all run in fear, which I think is just so cool. I love all that. Yeah. That's actually

kind of what led me into my journey when I first decided to read the Bible kind of with new eyes. And I mean, I didn't get past those first few chapters where I'm like, wait, what? No one ever taught me this in Sunday school. Yeah, the Bible, you know, I feel like a lot of people aren't even very familiar with what is in the Bible because almost every atrocity you can possibly imagine is not just in the Bible, but sanctioned or commanded or committed by God. And it's so bad that I have a hard time

doing live streams about it because it's so graphic. You're like, oh, wow, how am I going to talk about this story that has all this, you know, all the all these words that I can't say. Yeah, like, yeah, terrible things. And it's like these are the books that they want taught to children and everything. And there's horrible stuff in there. One thing that got me, I think, at the very beginning, very curious. Right. thing that got me, I think at the very beginning, very curious, right. I'm, you know, through my journey, one of the first things I asked myself was how much of what I believe in have I been

told to believe? Like, could I speak on what I believe? And I was really stumped. And so that's when I kind of became a person who wanted to live by my own experiences. Like no one can take that from me. It's great. I love that. So many people don't have the strength of mind or independence to even most people, so many people say that they want freedom or free will, but they don't because it's, it's scary. It's frightening because now you're responsible for yourself. You have to take, you know, responsibility for your own actions. You don't have someone or some entity commanding you to do certain things. You have to be, you know, truly strong and independent. And so many people, you know, like they, like I said, they say they want freedom,

but they don't actually, they want someone to be directing their life, making all the hard decisions for them like this, you know, cosmic father figure. But yeah, you know, you're absolutely right is that most people are completely conditioned. Their beliefs aren't their own. It's a product of culture. It's a product of parenting. It's a product of the school system. All these external forces are just constantly barraging you immediately since birth. And by the time, you know, you don't even really fully develop your ability to reason until like your mid twenties. And so you're constantly shaped by external forces. And very few people realize that, you know, they are in control of their own minds.

They had, they're not their own person. There's someone else that has been molded by externality. And, you know, coming out of that, I think that for myself, I did like what you did. Like I was seeking, right. Different things, you know, researching different things and, and going down some holes, you know, really deep diving. And you can really get lost in that as well. And one of the things I love, and I was in a deep dive with Sophia at the time that I had come across you. And one of the things I'd love for you to speak on is

metarationalism, you know, being logical. And it's like a brain filter theory. I also remember you talking about really, really stuck with me. Thank you. Sure. Yeah, of course. So I've developed a system of thought called the neogenian system, which is about creating oneself, creating a new humanity and creating a new earth through a new consciousness. And part of this is, like you said, metarationalism. So there's different aspects, like, for example, the part that we were just discussing about removing all the conditioning systems to be able to create your own self, that's an aspect of the neogenian system, which is neogenesis, to create a new beginning, a new beginning in oneself. But the aspect you're talking about, metarationalism, yeah, that's extremely important.

And so basically what metarationalism is about is about understanding metaphysics rationally. And a lot of people conflate like reason with, oh, you mean like scientific materialism, like atheistic science? And no, you know, that's that's not what it means at all. Atheistic, you know, materialist science is actually an empirical system, which is based on sensory experience. So what you see is what you get, basically. And so metarationalism, however, is paired with the idea that we can understand the substructure of existence, the metaphysical aspect of reality, the immaterial, the spiritual, the mental, whatever you want to call it. We can understand it as rigorously as we understand the physical world through reason, through mathematics, through logic, et cetera.

And it's not about, because some people think, oh, wow, that sounds really cold, but it's not about denying things like intuition or emotions. It's about understanding that each thing has its place. Like intuition is what connects you to the source and allows you to get all this inspiration about reality, but it's very chaotic. It's like a dream. A lot but it's very chaotic it's like a dream it's a lot of it's archetypal and symbolic so that should be then analyzed with reason to kind of filter it see what makes sense see what doesn't dreams as an example if you took all your

dreams to be literally true you'd be in big trouble but that doesn't mean they're not important they tell you a lot about your unconscious intuition can tell you a lot about your unconscious. Intuition can tell you a lot about reality, but it has to be filtered through reason. So essentially the system of metarationalism is about using reason and mathematics to understand how the metaphysical aspect of reality, spiritual aspect, minds, souls can be understood through reason. So sense of soul, I've had a lot of woo-woo on my podcast. I mean, a lot of psychics and channelers and all kinds. And I love to hold space because I'm open to learn new things. That's great. And also have a safe space for people to share their stories.

But I have come to realize in my own personal journey over the years, and also probably with the help of much of your teaching, that a lot of the things that I receive are from my higher self, or if you want to say your soul. So sense of soul, you don't call it soul, but you do talk about soul. You call it a Zeta. Can you speak about that and what the Zeta is and you also probably will connect it to what most of us call god which is a kind of triggering word to some people and you call it absolute yeah absolutely absolutely no pun intended but so first of all i love what you said about being connected to your higher self because yeah that's exactly right is that a lot of people mistake this for being some

external entity or whatever but no you're actually. You as an eternal soul are such an infinitely powerful being that when people experience it, they think, wow, I'm experiencing some external creator God, but no, it's actually your power that you're coming into contact with, which is just so exhilarating. But yeah, so in the Neogenian system, I typically don't use words like soul or God, et cetera. But you certainly can, because all these different words are just like a different language for expressing the same thing. And so it depends who, you know, if I were trying to talk to, say, a physicist, I wouldn't be talking about the soul or God. I'd be talking in terms of like frequency and quantum physics. But people who are who are familiar with terms

like soul and God, et cetera, I don't mind. I will use those terms sometimes. They're just not my go to, you know, they're not my preferred terms. But yeah, so in the Neo-Genian system, we have the concept of a zeta, which would be the concept of a soul. So we look at this as being a collection of mathematical frequency patterns. So a soul or an eternal mind or a zeta, whatever you'd like to call it, is a collection of frequency patterns, mathematical frequency patterns that can be arranged into different patterns,

which is what facilitates basically the evolution of the soul. So the idea is that the soul is a system of mathematics, a system of frequency that's exploring its own transformations. And so when a soul is to, say, reincarnate, or as I prefer to use the term, relocalize on Earth through an avatar, through a body, when you're going through life, you're essentially gathering training data for your soul as you experience, as you learn, as you grow. you as the soul, because what you really are

is a soul. Some people think, oh, I have a soul. No, you are a soul. What you are is a soul. You have a body. And so as you're going out, learning, exploring, having experiences, your soul is evolving these frequency functions within the mind, the mind being the soul. And so in terms of God, what I term the absolute would be the collection of all Zetas or all souls together. So it would be like the network. So God isn't something different from us. It is what we are. God is sort of experiencing itself through all of its nodes or through all of its souls.

But it's not something separate. It's kind of like the relationship between like a brain and neurons a brain is made up of neurons and all the neurons work together to form this cohesive brain but the only problem right now is that we don't know that we're god yet so it's sort of like a brain that isn't totally working all together as a unit it's confused and the different neurons are fighting against each other. And this is why we have all these problems in the world, because people don't realize that at base, we are all connected. You know, this is why we should be treating each other well, because the experiences that we're having are all really our experiences just from different perspectives, just from

different vantage points. Yeah. So and by the way, if you have some of this, you know, can get like mathematically technical. So if you want me to go into more detail on anything, please let me know because, you know, well, you know, my listeners know that I always say that I am math magical and not mathematical. I love that. Yeah. But see, here's the thing is that mathematics is taught in school so poorly and it's, you know, I've, I've heard one, one mathematician, I forget who it was exactly, but it's like,

mathematics is like painting and going to school is like learning how to paint fences. And so the way, the reason most people hate math, I hated math. I couldn't understand math until I understood. Oh yeah. Oh, absolutely. Oh yeah. I hated it until I understand that you could reveal the essence of the soul and the nature of existence through it. Once I realized that you can use it to like map out frequency and understand when you understand these patterns and how they evolve, you're understanding how the soul evolves. And that I became extremely passionate about because it's completely different than just like calculating taxes or whatever the hell, you know? Well, I guess that's the same with me. Like I used to hate history and now I'm a genealogist. So I mean, I love history and I love, you know, exposing, you know, history for, for the truth because we've been sold Yankee doodle came to town and riding on a pony, which is far from the truth.

That's fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. I love that. Yeah. It seems like you've always had this desire to find truth. It seems like. Yeah. I'm like, why am I always the one that's exposing, you know, everything? I wish more people were like that. I mean, that's a very rare quality. I think that's great. I wish more people had that. We'd be living in a much better world if that were the case. I call myself divinely defiant. How about that? I love that.

That's perfect. Yeah, great. So we talked about the soul. What about the avatar? You know, and how does this come in? You know, being Christian growing up, I mean, past lives was definitely not a concept that I had any knowledge on until I experienced my own past life regressions. And I had a young child tell me about how she was an old man when she was like four years old. I was like, you were an old man before.

So it made me curious. That is really interesting. Yeah. So you're right. Christianity does not have reincarnation, does not play a part in Christianity. What's really interesting, though, of course, I'm sure you know, Gnosticism, it very much does. You know, the whole Gnostic story is that we are trapped in these bodies in the cycle of reincarnation. And Jesus Christ didn't come to save us from sin, but to try and get us to recognize that we're actually divine so that we could achieve gnosis or knowledge and escape the cycle of reincarnation. So, you know, I much prefer that narrative. But so in terms of the system that I promote, I look at reality as being a collective dream. So when you go to sleep and dream at night,

essentially what's happening, because you are a system as a soul, you are a system of frequencies. And so when you go to sleep and dream at night, in mathematics, there's something known as a Fourier transform. And this allows you to express frequency information as space time information. And so when you go to sleep and dream, basically what you're doing is you're tuning into your own frequencies projected as a world. And so you're like exploring your mind, your internal frequency patterns, but projected as a dimensional world that you can explore. And even in the dream, you usually have a dream body and you're exploring it. Unless it's a lucid dream, you take it to be very, very real. So in this, in the system I work in, the neogenian system, waking reality is also a dream. The only difference

is that it's a dream that's not just your frequencies, but the frequencies of every soul in existence. So since this reality is composed of the frequencies of every soul in existence, that means it's stable and persistent. So like when you go to sleep and dream yourself, it's constantly changing. When you have different emotions, it'll, you know, morph and change. And when you wake up, it's not there anymore, et cetera. But this particular reality is very stable and it does change, but very, very slowly, which is why we have evolution and things like that. But it changes and is stable very slowly because it's not just your frequencies, it's the frequencies of every soul, every mind in existence. So it's not yours alone to just, you know, change on a whim like you could do in a personal dream. So in this context of this collective dream,

bodies are projections of frequency patterns. And so evolution is occurring. And through this process of evolution, which is just frequency functions, finding more stable patterns, stable patterns arising, becoming more complex, and bodies eventually evolve. And what bodies or avatars are, are essentially interfaces for Zetas, where a Zeta can interface with an avatar that allows a Zeta to have a localized experience of the physical reality. So essentially what it is, it's kind of like, I always compare it to a virtual reality video game. If you think of you sitting in your room

or on the couch in the living room and you take a virtual reality headset on and you put it on, now you're immersed in this virtual world because that headset is feeding you information of that virtual world. But you're really still in your living room. You're not actually in the world. You're still sitting in the living room. So a zeta or a soul always exists in the spiritual domain, always exists in the mental domain, always exists in the domain of mind of the frequency domain. But when it interfaces with an avatar or a body, it's like putting the headset on. And so the information that it's fed is of the physical world. It tunes the information that it has available to this specific localized domain. And that's where you had mentioned brain filter theory before. That's where brain filter theory comes in, where the brain is not something that

generates the mind, but rather filters and conditions the mind and the mind being the same thing as a soul or a Zeta. We use the same term to refer to the same thing, a soul or a zeta we use the same term to refer to the same thing a mind a soul and a zeta they're all the same thing so mind soul zeta interfaces with the brain then this limits and filters it and kind of like tunes it like watching a specific channel on tv or tuning a radio okay so that's like the eternal mind that you speak of which is also Zeta. Okay. So is there like an avatar mind that would be more of the ego or is, is that not separate? We, it was not separate, but we could think of it as like a subset of it. So we could think of the egoic mind or consciousness as being a subset of you as an eternal mind. So, you know, if you think of you as an eternal mind,

as you know, this, this circle inside of it, a circumscribed, you know, much smaller circle would be like consciousness or ego consciousness. So yeah, you as an avatar and most people associate themselves, most people identify with their ego. They go, oh yeah, I'm John and I'm a chiropractor and I have three kids, blah, blah, blah. But we know that's not who they really are. That's just one aspect of themselves that they're currently experiencing. And so it's part of them as a mind. But yeah, it's a filtered subset, I would say.

Yeah. So what is the purpose then of the Zeta returning and is it evolving? You know, people always ask me, what's the meaning of life? And it's relatively simple. The meaning of life is to understand it and to enjoy it because we're here for two reasons. One, because one reason that we're here is because we are literally God. We are the absolute that has partitioned itself to explore itself and enjoy its creation, but also to understand itself better in all of its various transformations. And it goes hand in hand because the more we

understand ourselves, the better conditions we can create to have better experiences and to enjoy life more. And so this is what I talk about a lot in the Neogenian system. Our aim is to create a teleocratic planetary civilization, which means a purposeful world that's geared towards maximizing the quality of life for everyone. And so in that sense, it's about understanding that right now our world is pretty trashy because we have people who are running it who don't give a crap about any of us, only themselves. And so everyone has a very lowered state of consciousness, lowered state of understanding, and not a high quality experience. So basically the purpose is to understand reality and each other so we can realize, oh, guess what? We're all in this together. We're all parts of the same network. So let's create a system. We all can flourish and have a positive experience.

A woman. Yes, yes, yes, absolutely. I was in a Gnostic circle about a little over a year ago and I rarely have experiences like this. And at the end, I like heard something in my mind and it was very clear and it came in very quickly and it was a feminine energy i sensed it and said i belong to no one and i am home to all oh i love that and this past year very strongly it was like i had years of of trying to know thyself, really, who I was. I had to drop all these conditions. I had to learn self-love for the first time. I mean, no one talked more shit to myself than me. But then it was more of a wholeness.

It became that we are one. And if, if we are one, then I must love you as much as I found love within myself. But it did start with me. It did start with me because there was so much healing that needed to be done before I could understand that I was part of you, Morgan, you were part of me. Absolutely. Of course. I belong to no one, but I'm home to all. What was, was that it? I belong to no, no one, not nobody, but no one person, no one. And I am home to all. That's beautiful. I love that.

Isn't it? Yeah, that's, that's so good. I think that's amazing. That's beautiful. But you're absolutely right that it does start with yourself. And a lot of people ask like, oh, well, what can I do? How can I help, et cetera? Well, the first thing is to work on yourself

because we're all, you know, there's nothing wrong with working on yourself. Some people think like, oh, I always have to just be super selfless and constantly serve others, which helping others is great and a huge part of it. But you, yourself as an individual, are also part of the network. And so

the more that you work on yourself and understand yourself and give yourself a good experience, the more well-equipped you're going to be to be able to help others in the long run. Yeah. Another thing that I'm curious about, you know, synchronicity is crazy and I'm sure it's just because we are all connected. I've learned to lean into it. It does seem magical, right? Synchronicity. I remember, like, you know, I first start experiencing it years ago, of course, with awareness.

Awareness. You have to have that. But, you know, without it, I think I'd be lost. I mean, you know, it's more than coincidence, right? It is, in which you have to, you know, kind of filter through, like, that's just a coincidence, right? This isn't, you know, you know, synchronicity. There's a huge difference. Yeah. So synchronicity, I find that to be fascinating. And, you know, I'm sure you know, this began with Carl Jung discussing it, which is, yeah. And as I'm sure you also know carl jung was extremely into gnosticism highly intelligent uh psychiatrist psychologist you know coined the word

introvert extrovert brought in so much work with archetypes and the collective unconscious but yeah so synchronicity is essentially uh most people understanding it understand it as meaningful coincidences and that's a real you know quick way to understand it as meaningful coincidences. And that's a real, you know, quick way to understand it. The more like technical way to understand it is when an external event mirrors an internal event. So Carl Jung always, always gives the, gave the story of, he was talking with a patient of his about a dream that she was having, and they were discussing in her dream, she had a dream about this particular beetle. And it was a very rare kind of beetle. wasn't a common beetle very rare hard to find sort of beetle and as they're discussing this they hear a tapping at the window and they look and that exact kind of

beetle was right at the window right so this is a good good example of synchronicity where something external matches something that was internal and so synchronicity can essentially work because at root, we're all connected together. We're not consciously aware of it, but at the root and base of reality and the collective unconscious, we are all connected together. So we have an unconscious sense of the entirety of reality, more or less, but at a very, very low level. It's not something that's easily accessible, but this can definitely facilitate synchronicities. Now, but like you said, and you're absolutely right, is that again, we have to use reason to filter them because not every coincidence we have is going to be a synchronicity. Sometimes it's just a coincidence,

but yeah, you're absolutely right. That's why when we have these, we can look at them and be like, oh, wow, you know, is this really a synchronicity or is it really a coincidence or is it something else? And how I look at these sort of things as well is because synchronicity is something that I want to study more and understand like in a formal way. There are like Carl Jung wrote a book about it with a physicist that's very interesting about how it could relate to like quantum mechanics and reality. But how I look at this sort of stuff is at the end of the day, if you have a certain experience, is it something you can learn from? And is it something that can help you in life? And at that point, it almost, it doesn't really

matter if it's like a real synchronicity or if it was just a coincidence. Of course, if you, if your goal is to just like know truth, then yeah, it would matter. But if it's more of your goal to use what is useful to your life and growth, then it ultimately, it doesn't really matter. It's kind of like, I talk about this with, with dream analysis as well. So like dream analysis, you know, you have a dream and then you analyze it to be like, okay, what is my unconscious trying to tell me? And you go through this process of trying to figure out what the dream is about. And then you realize, oh, you know, it means that I need to work at, you know, incorporate this aspect of my shadow self or whatever. Or I need to repair this relationship or I need to be in touch with more of these kinds of energies within myself or something.

But at the end of the day, whether your dream actually meant that or not, doesn't matter if it helped you in the end. So I look at, there's two different aspects to existence. There's the very formal mathematical aspect where you're trying to discover like rigorously, what is reality made of and how does it function? And then there's the growth aspect, which involves a lot of intuition and symbolism and dreams. And that's a lot more, a lot less rigorous and more artistic and more energetic and more intuitive. So yeah, you kind of have both of these different aspects. That like resonance. That's what I would like sometimes if I was meditating for, you know, a lot. I feel like even the solar storms actually raise my vibration.

They also kick my ass, but you know, there's like this up and down. I'm very affected, you know, by the energy of whatever's going on planetary. You know, it's also just because I'm very aware, right? So all of that meditation and me being very conscious of my body and what I'm experiencing because of, you know, say a full moon or something, I but when things are going on in the world emotionally or energetically, that affects me very much. So like when COVID first hit and we had so much chaos in the world, like I was really affected by that. You know, I could barely get out of bed or barely. And it wasn't because something was happening to me, but just because of all, you know, there was a lot of like civil unrest and whatnot to going on at that time. And that's something that I'm very much connected to. Oh, my gosh.

That's why I find your channel and you very refreshing because I get away from that with you because there's no dogma. There's no judgment. There's no BS. There's no politics, you know. Yeah. Thank you. Because you put me away from that. And I always tell people,

stop watching the news. I mean, it's just so toxic. Yeah. I mean, so personally, I try and keep a balance where I do want to be informed with what's going on, but so much of it is designed to make you afraid because for so many different reasons, for control, for just viewership and getting clicks and views, et cetera, so much as sensationalized. So I do try and take a balance where I want to know what is happening in the world, but you can't just get so consumed by it where you can't function anymore. Right. Yeah. And I think a lot of people are going through that, but I do too. And just, I think all people are empaths. And so I definitely feel like even if I don't watch the news, I can feel like there's this energy around me that seems chaotic.

Yeah. That's another area that I want to discover more with regard to people being so, I mean, I know we are all connected, but a way of like studying it in a more, more objective way, because it's, it's something really interesting that I noticed when I was a street performer, because I would street perform all over California, a bunch of different parts. And I, and I would notice that if, you know, I I'd go perform in one part and sometimes people wouldn't be in great mood, super happy. And then other times they'd be just like, oh, bad moods. And, you know, just didn't want to laugh at anything or whatever. And it was so odd because I noticed like, if it was like that in one part part it was like that in a lot of other parts as well and i was like that's so interesting you know everyone sort of has this like almost like

collective mood it's very right well and i'm not really into astrology but i know a lot of astrologists so is there something weird going on they're like like, yep. They'll fill me in. I'm like, I don't understand it necessarily, but it's very interesting because there seems to be like these cycles, right? That we go through. They're almost predictable. Personally, I don't subscribe to astrology, but I do think that there is some kind of energetic force, not necessarily. And so I take a more like Jungian approach. So Carl Jung had the same idea with astrology. Essentially, the astrology is a rich system of symbolism and representation, but doesn't necessarily have to do with the positioning of the planets, etc. And I sort of take the same stance. It's a very rich archetypal system of symbolism

that we can use to understand, just like anything else, like Gnosticism or tarot cards, etc. All of that is great sources of rich symbolism for connecting with the unconscious. Could it also be that we're like collectively manifesting certain things like a Mercury retrograde, right? If everyone on the planet thinks that their computers are going to stop working or whatever, then they might. Maybe we collectively manifest together. I think that collective manifestation is possible, but to what degree is it possible?

I think that at a certain point where humanity becomes very interconnected and aware of their divine selves and highly conscious and probably even facilitated through technology of some kind, because I'm not against technology. I think a lot of it, like we're having this conversation right now via technology, which allows us to spread information all across the world to, you know, if this were thousands of years ago, you and I would be able to talk to like maybe 10, 15, 20, 30 people, but now we can have hundreds of thousands or millions of people. So I think technology is a double-edged sword where it can be very coercive and destructive, but in another sense, it is also very connective as well. Right. Right. I love that about you more

because even if, you know, someone asks you a question during your life and says, you know, Hey, have you heard about this? Or do you think this, you will say no, you know, like, if you don't know, you're like, no, I'm going to look into it. Right. Um, it's it right um oh yeah very often well thank you i appreciate that i mean that's one thing is that i really like to be transparent and upfront because there's so many bullshitters out there especially in like the new age and spiritual and mystical community oh my god like everyone's trying to be this guru and ultimately they just want your money and they're just both they don't know what to talk about and so if i don't know something i'll just oh i i don't know or that's interesting i'll i'll look into it i think that's really important. And also I'm not

trying to convince anyone of anything, you know, people can come in and if they don't agree with me, that's totally fine. Again, it's just like, Hey, here's this information. It's there. If you want it, I'm not like, no, you have to believe this or else you're an infidel or no, that's, that's exactly what, what's so wrong with the world, you know? Right. Absolutely. You know, I've had people on before who have huge followings and, you know, they've wrote books and all this. And this one, you know, I've researched and read a lot of things. And he didn't realize that I had. And I've also interviewed a lot of people.

You know, some of the authors that he spoke of and that I know personally. And I totally called him out and I didn't post his episode. I mean, I don't care how many people follow him or, and I really think that people need to not believe everything you hear or at least do the research. Oh, absolutely. That's awesome that you have a lot of integrity, you know? I think that's great that you called someone out like that

because it's, you know, it's not, if someone's just- I really almost wanted to post it. It would be interesting. That's for sure. I mean, you know, it's one thing if someone's just ignorant and you're like, okay, we'll let, you know, they're still learning. But if they're actively harming others, a lot of funnies out there and they're just doing it for for clicks and for popularity.

But more you are not those. Oh, that's really sweet. I appreciate that. Yeah. And another thing I like to say, too, is, you know, I tell people question everyone and everything like question what I have to question what anyone has to say, because I don't I don't want people to just believe what I have to say, because that's not how ultimately I legitimately I want people to reach a higher state of consciousness if that's what they want. And if you just believe what I have to say, just because I'm saying it, that's not how you reach a higher consciousness. It's about understanding why. It's about doing the search yourself by going within and not just believing something, but understanding why something is the case.

And that takes a lot of hard work. But if you don't, like there's a million people saying a million different things out there. And, you know, thousands of years, it's always been know thyself. It's just been said over and over and over again, know thyself. And everyone's looking somewhere else except for inside yeah the kingdom is inside of you and outside of you if you come to know yourself you will be known that's one of my favorites me too i love that i love that so much yeah the kingdom is within you and is it is outside of you one of my favorite quotes from the gospel of thomas because it's so true and when you like really understand it it's kind of the key to everything yeah that's a good that was one of my favorites

as well you know mark i appreciate you coming on sense of soul i mean i i feel like you're my favorite i want everyone to go out and and check out your book you have a whole series oh yeah oh you got it nice excellent oh yeah that Neo Genesis. That's, that's book number one. And that's the focus of that one is what we talked about near the beginning. It's about deconstructing your old self so that you can have the power to construct your new self. And then you have a total of four, right? Um, I have, well, yeah. So the first one is Neo Genesis. The second one is what we talked about next was metarationalism, which understands the mathematical nature of reality. And then Cosmogenesis is the third book, which describes the evolution of existence from

the understanding that you are the reality understanding itself. There's two more to come out. They're not out yet, but those are the three in the series that are out at the moment. So, yeah. Oh, there's two more coming out. Well, I have to cut that. Those are the three in the series that are out at the moment. So, yeah. Oh, there's two more coming out. Two more coming out. Well, I have to catch up. And then you're also doing, you're also teaching this on Sundays.

Isn't that right? Yeah. So in our Discord community. That's right. Yeah. In our Discord community, every Sunday, we have live study sessions hosted by Neogenian presenters going over this material where we can have the community come on camera and ask questions and all kinds

of stuff. Yeah. I love your community, by the way, everyone in your chat is always so amazing. Yeah, I really do. I'm really, I'm really happy about that. And you need a vacation by the way. I do need, yes, you're right. Yes, it is. I have literally never taken a vacation in my life. Anytime I've ever traveled, it's been, you know,

except for when I was like nine or something. But otherwise it's been for, you know, some kind of work related thing. I do need a vacation, yes. I've never known anyone to work so hard. You are a workhorse. No, thank you. Yeah, I mean, it's a blessing and a curse, I suppose.

Yeah, well, I'm glad you do it. Tell everybody where they can find you though, and where they can pick up your books. Sure. So my main work you can find on YouTube and it's just morgue official, morgue like in a hospital and official. And I'm on every other platform, morgue official. So Instagram and TikTok, well, TikTok it's morgue underscore official, but pretty much every platform out there, morgue official, you'll find it. I've started posting my videos to Spotify as well. So you can find that on Spotify. And then you can find my books on Amazon. I really had a great time. You asked such fabulous questions. I really appreciate it. Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's rare that I get such interesting questions. Usually they're a lot more superficial,

which are fine. But this was really nice to actually get into the really important stuff. You know, I wanted to kind of help my listeners, you know, connect to this. So thank you for keeping it simple and just being the great teacher. You're a great teacher. Oh, that's really sweet. Well, thank you. That means a lot.

I really appreciate it. Well, thank you so much. And lot i really appreciate it well thank you so much and as a faithful follower of your channel and your work thank you so much for all that you do and astra i appreciate it so much thanks for listening to sense of soul podcast and thanks to our special guests for joining me if you want more of Sense of Soul, check out my website at www.mysenseofsoul.com where you can work with me one-on-one or help support Sense of Soul podcast by donating to my coffee fund. Thanks for listening.