Sense of Soul - Divine Feminine + Reiki = Kali-Ki

Episode Date: April 10, 2023

Today on Sense of Soul Podcast we have a beautiful soul, author Joni Dittrich, Ph.D. aka Rajashree Maa, she is a master of four reiki lineages and a venerated interspiritual teacher of meditation, yogic wisdom and holistic wellness. From many years of practice as a psychologist and healer, she sees true healing as a gateway to spiritual wisening and awareness of the Limitless Love at the heart of being. She is the founder of The Wisdom School based in Napa, California, which is dedicated to offering online and in-person healing sessions and training in Kali-Ki Reiki and supportive practices. Today she joins us to share her amazingly Divine book, ‘May the Loveforce Be With You.’ Sure to become a definitive reference for all reiki practitioners, May the Loveforce Be With You - Kali-Ki Reiki: Healing Through Divine Mother & Yogic Wisdom is your deep dive into this new divine feminine and yogic lineage of reiki healing. Written by our beloved Rajashree Maa, the book is now available in Paperback and Kindle for your own “wisening” and wellness.  http://www.thewisdomschool.us/ Follow on IG here @thewisdomschoolus Join Sense of Soul’s Spring Book Club!! Starting on Sunday April 16th! We will be reading ‘The God Solution’ The Power of Pure Love, By Neale Donald Walsch Learn more herehttps://www.mysenseofsoul.com/spring-book Visit Sense of Soul at www.mysenseofsoul.com Do you want Ad Free episodes? Join our Sense of Soul Patreon, our community of seekers and lightworkers. Also recieve 50% off of Shanna’s Soul Immersion experience as a Patreon member, monthly Sacred circles, Shanna’s mini series on the Goddess of Wisdom Sophia, Sense of Soul merch and more.https://www.patreon.com/senseofsoul Follow Sense of Soul Podcast on Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/SenseofSoulSOS  

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Now go grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. It's time to awaken. Hey guys, hope everyone had a happy Easter. Today with us, we have Dr. Jomi Dittrich, aka Raja Srimah. She is a master of four Reiki lineages, interspiritual teacher of meditation, yogic wisdom, and holistic wellness. From her many years of practice as a psychologist and healer, she sees true healing as a gateway to spiritual wisening. She's the founder of the Wisdom School based in Napa, California, and is dedicated to offering online and in-person healing sessions and training with her modality that she founded, Kali Ki Reiki. She's joining us today though to tell us about her new book, May the Love Force Be With You, Kali Ki Reiki,

Healing Through Divine Mother and Yogic Wisdom. Her book is amazing and I can't wait to hear all about it. Hello. Namaste. Namaste. Good to see you, Shana. So very nice to meet you. Welcome into my space. I am your student and I'm very honored. And may the love force be with you, right? That's right. May the love force be with all of us.

I can't wait to hear about your divine feminine journey and how that combined with one of my great loves, Reiki. So it's kind of interesting. I'll just go way back if you don't mind, Shanna. Yeah, I know. You know, I'm 70. So when I was a kid, it was a long time ago. But when I was young and I read the Bible, what I discovered is different from what they were teaching me in church, that what most of what Jesus actually did was healing. And of course, it was an energy healing, right? It was the healing through the Holy Spirit, through the divine.

And I was fascinated by this. And I remember going to the teacher of my communion class. This was at an Episcopal church. And asking, you know, and saying, you know, in the Bible, Jesus is doing all this healing work. Is that something we can do? And this man, you know, bless his heart, said to me, well, Joni, you know, back in those days, they didn't have all the great medical science we have so kind of like what he was saying is Jesus did the best he could for the times mm-hmm so that was the teaching that yeah I was getting in the

church it was like oh I see okay so if I want to do healing I need to get an MD or something like that which wasn't my forte and so I did eventually actually get a PhD in psychology because that seemed like the compromise in a way but it never left me Shanna that feeling that divine energy of Holy Spirit which I now call the love force energy of the divine feminine. And interestingly, you probably know this, it was a feminine energy in Jesus's time. It was. And I think that is so, so fascinating. So, you know, like many women today, it's been kind of like a journey back in time to revisit history in a new way and i became a psychologist and i

loved my work you know it was wonderful to help people transform but it was through words it was through the mind right and you know even as a psychotherapist you don't touch your clients but you know i was practicing yoga i was doing, and I still felt there was something. So I went ahead and I got some Reiki training, but I just started doing it on the side with my friends, with my family. And I still couldn't bring it into my practice. So I did that for almost 20 years before I finally found the right teacher for me to become a master, a Reiki master. Because you probably know this and and maybe you've experienced it where you can be a Reiki master

basically within a weekend. And I felt like no, mastery, you know just the word right to be a master of something in a weekend I mean maybe you have a couple of other weekends prior to that but it just didn't feel like enough so eventually I found the right teacher that's what really got me on the path of Reiki and at the time there was like a convergence of things this was about 2008 that i'd actually already been a reiki master for a year and i just started on a deep course of study of tantric shivite you know hindu yogic philosophy meditation and it was the convergence of those two things that allowed i think for divine mother to come through and so

i'd been a reiki master now for a year only i'd already had a couple of students and then suddenly i started getting these downloads of new symbols and as you know through through Reiki, Reiki is transmitted in practice and it's empowered through symbols. And so from 2008 on, it was just kind of like, that's my path. And I eventually did actually retire my psychology license, although, of course, you know, the work informs me. You know, I received a symbol as well. It's interesting because it was through a Reiki class as well. I mean, I was teaching Reiki and I had everyone close their eyes and we'd never done this before, but I wanted everyone to find their own symbol. We did.

But then the next morning I woke up and in my dream, I got a very clear message that I had wrote my symbol wrong. And I saw it very clearly. And I sat in bed till like 11, which I don't do. And I sat there and I made the symbol. But then after months and months and sharing my symbol with people, people were like, oh, wow. I mean, this means this. And I was like, really? Oh my gosh, you're right. I had put the masculine symbol and the feminine symbol upside down on top of each other you had no idea there was the triple goddess in there there was the star of David which also

symbolized the bob which my last name so because it's the male and female and the bob is that unification so there was all these synchronicities that I learned about the symbol throughout the time. And then one day I'm watching this unearthed episode. It was about the Knights of Templar because I was studying Sophia. And that led me to the Knights of Templar. And the guy in the episode is drawing out my symbol piece by piece and explaining what it means. I mean, isn't that amazing? But it stood for Mary Magdalene, Jesus, and possibly an offspring. It was the hook X.

Wait, what is the hook X? It was a symbol that they used to symbolize that the Knights of Templar were there. And this guy believes that that hook X symbolized that there was a lineage. Well, coincidentally, as I am watching this show, they're talking about a Henry Sinclair. Ancestor is a huge part of my journey. I even teach it. And I have a Sinclair lineage in Scotland. Well, there you go. It's amazing. And yet it's not right this is what we're beginning to understand the extraordinary is not so extraordinary we just have to change our frame of reference and we have to be open to this and so yeah clearly this message is coming through to you you're getting

the symbol it has personal meaning to you it has a universal meaning as well and sounds very much like it's part of a lineage so i'm just curious shannon do you feel like this is something that you already knew in another incarnation in another lifetime or do you feel more like this is being passed down to you so i would say that this is something that has been repressed in my lineages repressed in all of the past lives that i'm aware of so i have goosebumps right now because it is a very very powerful thing for me to experience this wow so it's a very opening thing challenging too yeah because i have to retrain everything i know about yes what i thought something that had not been allowed in which we could generalize that kind

of experience actually even just to the divine feminine right culture as a whole that for so so many years she has been marginalized and not allowed in so yeah i mean i think this is all absolutely fascinating and i know our journeys parallel very much in terms of our seeking of the divine feminine and pilgrimages and things like that but i do want to mention that there's so many parallels to what you experienced and what happened with me with many of these symbols. I tell the story in the book of one symbol. I think it was like 48 hours that I was working on it to get it right, because it was a symbol of infinity

and all the interconnections in all possibilities. Well, how do you put that into a symbol? I saw it in my inner eye, but then to try to reproduce something that expresses basically the multiverses, you know, in a two-dimensional drawing is, you know, virtually impossible, and yet ultimately, you know, it showed up up and one of the differences in our lineage Kali Ki Reiki compared to the traditional lineage of a Sui is we're very careful when we graphically depict these symbols to show them as

light because most symbols are written down, you know, they're written in black ink or whatever on a white paper. And instead, we do it with white on a black background to really show that not only are they light, but they're moving, vibrating, dancing forms of light. And, you know, having been taught the traditional asui symbols right it's like you have to get them just right you know you have to you have to get all the lines right and you have to dot your eyes and cross your t's and some teachers don't let you pass a reiki class until you've gotten the symbol just right but it's like no these are dancing moving forms of light and they morph into one another and that's the energy right of the

divine feminine so yeah i think the experiences are very very similar and then also something i don't actually talk about a lot and i don't even think i talked about this very directly in the book is that when ma that's i call her Ma, Kali Ma, Divine Mother, when she was giving me these symbols, she eventually said to me that this is a new lineage and that I'm going to be stewarding it and presenting it into the world. But also, it wasn't that it was like a new lineage. And I still have not fully discerned whether this lineage of

Kali Ki Reiki was available to people on this planet a few thousand years ago. I have a feeling that it has come from actually another dimension, so that it may not have been a lineage in this plane, so to speak. That would make a lot of sense. Because I would say if there was such a lineage that was on another dimension and the divine feminine wanted to gift this to those who were in the capability of receiving it and teaching it and whatever you're receiving it maybe one way and maybe i'm receiving it another yes but yet it's from the same energy and we're receiving it so very similar even if the words are different calling ma sofia whatever i have goosebumps again it won't stop i've never had goosebumps this long i mean that says something right i think you know i wouldn't be surprised if women and perhaps men too you know

all over the world have received you know symbols here and there and actually you mentioned um earlier uh jj her talk and their work in his wife and I know they're connected with Kurt Johnson who actually and I know he's had experiences of getting the message of divine feminine lineages coming in and symbols you know so so I think there are many the ones that came to me now, these just happen to be this system of Kali Ki Reiki. But actually, it was really great, Shana, because I've been receiving these symbols, you know, always a surprise, never knew. But you never know when this is going to happen.

And like I said, every time I thought, oh, this is probably the last. Eventually, one symbol didn't come through me. One of our masters, Renday Lezour, was a longtime practitioner and energy healer. I had just attuned her to the most recent symbol that had shown to me and then she had similar experience to you. She went home and for three months she was actually just doodling this symbol that my mother had given to her. And she was a little nervous about showing it to me. The moment I saw it, it was like, yes, yes, this is part of this lineage.

And so it brought a completion at that point. And then one of the next symbols that showed up was fascinating. And this is partly why I feel like this all comes from other dimensions, if you will. I was giving a Reiki session to one of our level two people, who was a woman I'd known for many, many years, Linda Lang. She's an amazing artist. And she had known my deceased husband, Bob, and Bob had died a couple of years previously. And without going into too much, you know, I knew kind of where he was in his journey post-death. And it was like time for an emergence, so to speak, from that soul realm. But I wasn't even thinking about it.

I went to her feet to place my hands on the soles of her feet, and then I felt these hands on my back. And, of course, you know, I knew his hands, right? You're not married to somebody for 30-plus years, and you don't have this sense. And I figuratively turned around with my wisdom eye and behind me i saw my husband bob as a cocapelli and he had on this great big magnificent headdress he went like 50 feet behind him and it was all you know just color all just this beautiful you know translucent coloring it

was just it was absolutely amazing and so i had my hand on her feet i felt these hands on my back i saw this vision of him and i felt this energy just shoot through linda, woof. And she's kind of, whoa, what's going on? And then I went to her heart and placed my hands on her heart. She starts crying. And she had felt this phenomenal surge of energy when it happened. And when I placed my hands on her heart, her heart turned into another beautiful symbol. And because she's a great artist, she was able to actually reproduce this very quickly. And we call this symbol the Bhimana Darshana. And then I told her about my vision of Bob,

and that's when she really started crying because she loved Bob too. And we truly feel that he had brought this through from another realm and had given us this gift of another symbol for the Kali Ki Reiki lineage. That's such an amazing story. And I'm sure you have a story behind every single symbol because that is truly right what gives the power to the symbol right yeah yeah it's the experience of course and you're right I mean you have you have a story for your symbol and so that is part of what you know in the book I tell the stories of each symbol how they appear and then just like you you know it usually takes a while to work with

them and understand their full meaning and the master symbol for Kali Ki Reiki appeared to me years before I felt like I had fully unpacked it and I don't even like to say fully unpacked right because they just keep showing up because again they're living so they're always dancing and morphing and changing and I think the more receptive we are to them the more we can understand about what they do and their purposes and to me these are the divine love force. That's what, I don't call it life force anymore. I call it love force.

Love force. I love that. I may adopt that. I've been a Reiki master for, I don't know, maybe almost seven years. Okay. You know, I've had a lot of students. Of course, you know, you're growing as you, you know, as a teacher, you're learning more than ever.

You know, you learn more than you do as a student. And I found that at the beginning, I was putting myself back in a box. I mean, I had, you know, got out of the box of religion and put myself into a Reiki box. So I'm leaning into my teaching. I want people to make it their own. Like, this is a beautiful foundation that I'm lenient in my teaching. I want people to make it their own. Like this is a beautiful foundation that of movement within the whole Reiki world as well, which I have deep respect for. And yet, yeah, it can be limiting. I mean, Makau Asui was an enlightened master around 1900.

You know, he was a man. He was a Buddhist monk. He brought Reiki into the world beautifully, but in a way that suited, you know, that generation. That time. Yeah, that time. Exactly. And so, you know, that to me is one of the beauties of this Kali Ki Reiki lineage. It's like it came in at the beginning of this century, and it's coming through the Divine Femin divine feminine which is very different than any traditional reiki lineage and do you teach your symbol to your students or are you keeping it more for yourself because i do think some symbols are meant for us as individuals with your book and your symbols and as talking about this because I thought perhaps you know it is for all

I have been very open to share it's not something that I don't you know I did a whole episode on it in my mini series I've shared it with all my Reiki students you know I say that all the time when it even comes to religion I'm like we're evolving as a people everything's evolving how can anyone you know stick to any old traditions? I mean, we would be, there would still be slavery, you know, if we still had the same laws and rules that we did just, you know, a hundred years ago. So I have now added recently finding their own symbol as well. You know, I'm really encouraging them to visualize and receive something of their own. But, you know, another thing that I have learned over the past year,

so I've done the Flame Buddy Shadow Healing course. I don't know if you're familiar. I think it's originally created by Ashiana Dean. And I took my course through Dr. Jerry Rivera-Degeno. And it was receiving the symbols by staring at them. And you tone these songs. Uh-huh. Given specific songs?

Yes. All I know is that it was such a powerful experience. So he also does this with his Rasha machine. So he's the founder of the Rasha. It's a scalar energy machine. I talk a lot about this because I'm a big fan of it because it works. And he has you stare at a symbol. Like you were saying, these symbols are alive, right? They have a frequency and a vibration to them. And so he's connected them, the vibrational sound with the symbol and you and i were talking just before about like

doing mantra with your name and i think that that is so very important right i mean sound and light they're vibrations of the universe and so if it's coming to you to work those together i think it's absolutely beautiful. And you know, I don't know how you were trained in classical Reiki, but you know, in some teachers teach you to chant the name of the symbols, Chokurei, Chokurei, Chokurei. And interestingly, in Kali Ki Reiki,

we don't tend to do that so much. We do a lot of oming and we tone and we do sound healing many of us but we don't tend to do the chanting however like the names of our symbols they're sanskrit and although they're kind of difficult for people to learn initially to me the Sanskrit language it is a sacred language and the pronunciation of the symbol is that but how lovely I mean I'm just thinking you know from what you said that even the names of the symbols to a chant like Vishva Chakra and as you're like looking at the symbol yeah yeah what an interesting thing because that is one thing that we recommend to people like even with the book there are graphics

of the symbols and we recommend that you could just gaze at them in yoga right for the yantra right that they just gaze on them but but kind of to gaze and pronounce or start to sing find your own yeah for the symbol i like that and a lot of this came through the divine feminine to me this is part of the journey where i had discovered you know even back in the bible king solomon king david david would play the lyre for king sol and when David would play the lyre for King Saul. And when he would play the lyre, the vibrations, really, I researched the lyre and what it does. I mean, it is literally that healing tone. And it would create a field around him of healing.

And all of the demons and negative energies would be flying out of him. And I thought, thought wow that's so amazing there's just something to this divine energy absolutely absolutely sometimes when i'm actually doing healing work maybe you do this i will tone i'll all i'll blow into their skull i'll blow in areas of the body that are stuck. You know, when we're making sound, you know, we're really moving, not just the energy, we're moving the physical molecules.

So yeah, I think it's all fascinating. And I just love that you invite your students to see if their own symbol comes to them. So it was the last two Reiki masterclasses that I taught. I actually shared with them, well, you guys are really lucky because I'm so on my Sophia journey. I'm going to have to tell you all about the Divine Mother.

So it became part of it. When the Divine Feminine came into your life and all of these things merged together how long did it take before you created Kali Ki? Yes so um it really didn't take long I mean okay it's kind of the other way around I mean I had always kind of like um in a political feminist way you know I had talked about the divine mother and i had studied a little bit but it really wasn't until she started giving me these symbols and showing up for me so directly that that's what really crystallized my journey so there i was i you know i was a deep yoga

student and practitioner and teacher. And so, of course, she would appear to me, right, as Kali. And, of course, Kali, I like to think of her as she's the goddess of transformation. People talk about her as the goddess of death and destruction. And actually, she's not the goddess of death at all. There's a god of death, Yama. But, you know know she's creation and dissolution but that's transformation right and that to me is the beauty of you know a deep understanding of of who kali is but then that just reopened up to me you know the divine mother in in the Christian and the Western traditions as well. That's then when

I started going to Europe and going to the sites of Mary Magdalene. And interestingly, I had been also before that I was given the name Rajasrima, I was given the name Kali Sara, and that came directly from Divine Mother, but my teacher at the time verified it. We did a lovely naming ceremony. Well, after I was given this name, that's when I began to learn about Saint Sarah. So Mary Magdalene lived in the south of France after she came from Egypt and this is this is known this is understood and I visited her relics and her caves. I don't know if you've done this in the community. No but I want to because I just talked to someone who you know is over there yeah and I want to go. Martha's in the area. So in this area where she taught, there are different stories. That she came with Martha and a couple of other Mary's from Egypt, and that with them was perhaps her daughter, but there was a woman of dark skin.

And this woman of dark skin became worshipped as a teacher and she was called not just Saint Sarah she wasn't actually a saint for a very long time but she was Kali Lasara so here I had been given the name Kali Sara right and I understood Kali Sara from the Sanskrit to mean the essence Sara, the essence or the flow of Kali. And then I learned about this saint teacher of the time of Mary Magdalene. There's evidence, you know, there's actual physical evidence of her who was known as Sara La Kali.

Well, that meant actually the interpretation from the French was the dark Sarah, the black Sarah. The dark mother. Then I came to understand that this whole area of France that's right on the Mediterranean Sea, it's absolutely gorgeous. You really need to visit it. It's for the home of the flamingos and the wild Camargue horses. And yeah, it's amazing. Anyway, once a year there's a celebration for Sara Lekhali and what history knows is she was worshipped by the the Gypsy people. Well the Gypsy people came from India around 1500 and

most likely they brought images of Kali, the dark mother, with them. And you know there was probably some sort of conflation between this woman who most likely was a dark-faced Egyptian that came with Mary. Martha's and Mary's. Yeah. And who probably was a teacher, just like Mary spent many, many years as a teacher. Well, so I was known as Kali Sara, and then I learned about Sara LaKali. And, you know, I'm very deeply connected with the Black Madonna and with Mary Magdalene and Mother Mary, too, doing this pilgrimage. And it's all wonderful then a couple years later I meet my guru and he gives me the name Raja Sri so Raja Sri like Raja you

know like King so it basically Raja Sri Ma means like Queen Mother but a more esoteric meaning is she of the divine feminine she of the royal divine feminine lineage or something like that and um and he's telling me this story of one of my previous incarnations where um i had been the queen mother in a small city state in greece one of my sons was king or whatever and a pandemic came along. Of course, he's telling me the story in 2020 when I was on lockdown in India for five months because I couldn't leave because of the pandemic. Oh my gosh. Well, blessing probably. Yeah. So a pandemic came along in Greece. And so I apparently, you know, I was also a I was also a spiritual teacher, and I had a following a small

following of some sorts. And that I moved to the south of France, to live out the rest of my days with my students. So he's telling me this story of a previous incarnation, and giving me this name. And he has no idea that I had done all this research and all of that. He didn't know that my previous name was Kali Sara, but he had no knowledge of Sarah LaCalle or that I had been drawn to the south of France or something like that. You know, these things. Yeah.

Aren't they just phenomenal? Yes. Okay. i have goosebumps again but i know these are the kinds of things that you're discovering on your journey shanna i know that's why i'm so excited to speak to someone else who has received such things because it's it is divine and that's what i always say i'm like how can I deny these things are so very strong it's like with Kali Ki it may not have existed here in the material world but all of a sudden it's come into this existence and you have a lot of people who have really received divine healing is very strong can you talk about that you know maybe the difference that you've seen with not that we should like shit on reiki or anything but you know what i mean there is a difference

in the energy of the divine feminine yes there is and i think you know for lack of better understanding it's a vibrational and a frequency difference okay that so many of the people that we work with when we're doing Kali Ki Reiki first of all Reiki is Reiki right I mean it is the divine energy called love force life force whatever you want to call it it's the universal but you know how it's transmitted the vehicle through which it's transmitted and I'm not talking about the me the symbols you know so it does make a difference because I believe that these symbols of the Kali Ki Reiki and you know symbols perhaps like yours they are attuned to our times our problems our issues not just as

individuals but as a culture globally etc and that's what we need to wake up to so that when I do a healing you know people may come in they've got a physical issue but they get on the table and suddenly they're journeying you know off in the stars and they're experiencing a divine manifestation and they're having an awakening it's a Kundalini awakening that they're experiencing a divine manifestation, and they're having an awakening. It's a kundalini awakening that they're having on the table in so many ways. And then, usually, you know, the pain mitigates, or, you know, often it just disappears,

but it certainly mitigates, and, you know, people come away and say, you know, I have never felt that chronic pain since that kind of thing and this can happen through all kinds of energy healing we know that and but to me it's that direct gift of the Divine Feminine and also one of the beauties of Reiki as you know is because when I place my hand on you or at distance but especially when you're doing an in-person healing it's important to remember that I'm not giving you my energy right I'm not absorbing your energy and that symbol is it creates a portal and I like to talk symbols as also as kind of like

There's an old-fashioned thing if you if you have a magnifying glass and the Sun is beaming Right, you can beam it down into dry grass and the grass will flame now You take the magnifying glass away and it's the same Sun same heat same grass hope it doesn't catch fire right and so to me these symbols act a little bit like the magnifying glass and they just make you know it's a laser yeah directing it yeah exactly exactly i like that analogy now your book has like what the symbols need like can i use your symbols can anyone with reiki you know don't even tell anybody no one's supposed to see them their secret secret i think there was just a cultural thing about you know you keep these things very quiet and you

certainly don't share them with foreigners right so that was it was such a big move when Hawaii Takata was trained and then began to bring the Reiki that she learned into the world. So, you know, that was a big evolution. And now we're, I think, at another, we're poised for another evolution. Right. Actually, I'll say that I really had to give it some thought and I really had to wait for Divine Mother's go-ahead to put these symbols into the book. We're still not blasting them over the internet. They're in the book. And of course, just like the Asui symbols are now all over the internet, I would imagine that may happen here. I'd been told back in the day, well, it will dilute the power of the symbols. And what I think is each person will experience it at their own level. We do actually encourage people to meditate with the symbols, feel them, do the yantra that you talked about. But really, if you want to start to work with them,

yeah, we would like you to receive the attunements, the actual attunements, the empowerments, the rituals, to really receive that and to consider our programs because our Master Path program, it's a year long. There's an intensity about it it depends on your own level of seriousness so i think it's people will receive these in whatever way that they do but i don't think that the potency of the symbol itself cannot be diluted right right and you can look at all the symbols of reiki right some people even tattoo them on them and this and that but yet if you've not been really

attuned with it and connected with it spiritually and i do believe in maybe you can speak on this the power of the symbol is powerful one because it's been passed down from one master to the next this is a lineage of a power that all says that this is a healing symbol for this reason yep yep so to me these symbols are really the khaliqi symbols they're meditative tools until you're attuned to them now someone like you who's been a practicing teacher for a long time, I would still recommend, you know, that you get the attunements, but, you know, you may not need to go through all the programs, that kind of thing. And also, you know, the power of the attunement process. I mean, the attunement ritual is phenomenal. And it's because you're getting it from someone who's been attuned at a master level to the lineage.

And lineage goes all the way back to the origin, which is the source, which is Divine Mother herself. So why would anyone not want to do that? know that's kind of how right you know i'm reteaching people that have already had reiki well and also people love taking it again and again i mean i don't know about in your classes but i have people that you know i attuned to kaliki reiki 10 years ago and they come back and they want to be, you know, attuned again. And our masters, we reattune them every year, you know, because of that energy of that attunement is really powerful. Yeah. But you know, one thing I was just thinking about when you were talking about how you asked the Kali Ma, you know, if you could share the symbols, it's like, you know, Sophia buried in the Nagamati,

right? Been hidden for so long. My journey is to find the truths that have been hidden and reveal them and release them and share them. So I really love exactly what you did. It's like, here they are, you know, that is so something i would align with with the divine mother you know these are the symbols and the divine energy that the divine mother is giving us and connect with it but if you really truly want to be like attuned to it feel the power use the power to help others to be attuned with it yeah and i would just add i mean i think it's wonderful that you're doing this work, Shanna, and you're bringing all this to light and you're sharing it because we are

truly at a critical time for humanity and it just absolutely has to get out there. And some people will resonate and some people will not, and that's fine fine but we need to get these hidden things out there so that people can find that with which they do resonate so that there can be an opening and an evolution toward unity and i think that no matter what corner you are in the world or whatever culture you connect with the most i bet we're going to be able to find her with whatever name you know she is given exactly yeah i have goosebumps again this whole entire episode i love it but i do love a lot of the things in your book also there was like a drop method yeah so. So the drop method, deep release of persistent pain patterns.

So that is a method that employs both Reiki and a very simple dialoguing process where the facilitator guides the person in a dialogue first with that which is most sacred to them, by whatever name they call it, and then begins to dialogue with their pain, their trauma. And through this dialogue, in which not only do we dialogue with it, but we tell it we love it, there often is a big opening and a big release of trauma or anything that's kind of stuck in the physical, the emotional, the mental, even the psychic bodies. It incorporates some psychological techniques for trauma,

but it's very powerful, but it's so gentle because it starts with Reiki, helping people to be very deeply relaxed and in that kind of zone out of the conscious mind, out of the rational mind, and then lovingly dialoguing with what they probably have been trying to ignore and repress for a very long time. And then once that dialogue is complete, then again, they just get to rest in the Reiki energy, a very powerful technique. We're evolving. There's no way we can keep ourselves small in a box. So I encourage anyone who's listening to read your book, which I think is inspiring other people to do that, right?

What is the Divine Mother? She is the Creatrix, right? Like be that creator of your own modality, your own life, whatever it is. Exactly, exactly. It's the gift we're given. And speaking of gifts, to be able to look at, you know, the pain, the suffering, the challenges, and be able to see the lessons in those and to be more kind and more compassionate with ourselves in regard to our stuck points and with others in regard to their stuck points as well. Well, you have so much wisdom. Now I see why you have the

Wisdom School. Tell everybody about that. Okay, so we call our school The Wisdom School. And if you'd like to look it up it's the wisdom school dot us because if you just look up the wisdom school you'll be taken to some kids school in India so the wisdom school dot us and so we're a Kula a community and we have four different columns satsangs a week three of them are online anyone is welcome to come join us you know on zoom i do a little teaching and guided meditations and some of the work with the kaliki reiki we have a healing circle that's open to anyone so if you want to receive healing you want to offer healing

you know you can be part of that on on friday mornings then, you know, we teach all the different levels of Kali Ki Reiki, first level, second level, the year-long master program. And then beyond that, we have something that we call the Sacred Flame Reiki. So yeah, it's pretty great. You should come for our Sacred Flame Retreat in July. I'd love it. So we have all of these meditation is a big part of what we do I call meditation the second wing of Kali ki Reiki so the first you know healing and meditation and if you have both wings you can soar I really do want to maybe take something of yours just so I can connect with the energy of the Kali ki that would be amazing that would

be great yeah yeah and you know what so many of my listeners they've taken reiki wonderful for sure so yeah tell everybody where they can get your book and your website tell them the name okay so the website is the wisdom school dot us okay and um the book is called may the love force be with you it's got a long subtitle Kali key Reiki healing through divine mother and yogic wisdom but all you need to do is look up may the love force be with you and then it's under my name Joni Dietrich di TT r ICH and parentheses Rajashrima but it's on Amazon. It's on Barnes & Noble.

You can get it through Sacred Stories, the publisher. And you can go to my website, and there's an order now button that will take you to Amazon. And it's available in paperback and Kindle. We hope to have actually an audio book by the end of the year. Oh, nice. Everybody likes that right you yeah i know lots of folks do yeah oh well thank you so much i seriously i feel like we could be friends for life thank you feeling so much love and and so much gratitude and truly truly the love

force is with you shanna and may it be with everyone who's listening oh and also with you