Sense of Soul - Edgar Cayce with John Van Auken
Episode Date: October 4, 2021Today on Sense of Soul, we have a very special guest, internationally renowned speaker, John Van Auken. An acknowledged expert of Edgar Cayce readings, the Bible, ancient prophecies, world religions... and meditation. He is the Director of the Edgar Cayce Foundation the A.R.E and has been involved in this work for over 40 years. He’s written a over 30 books and recorded numerous videos and audios, many of them are on YouTube. He was in the FOX show, "Opening the Tomb Live" in Egypt, has lead over 30 tours to Egypt, and some 90 tours to ancient sites around the globe. John is with us today to share the knowledge and wisdom found in Cayce’s lost Hall of Records, from over 14,000 readings with topics of reincarnation to ancient Egypt. John’s recent books are 2038: The Great Pyramid Timeline Prophecy, Edgar Cayce on the Spiritual Forces within You; From Karma to Grace, and Angels, Fairies, Demons, and the Elementals, Edgar Cayce on the Mysteries Essenes, and Edgar Cayce on Health, Healing, and Rejuvenation. If you want more universal wisdom!! Join the Edgar Cayce Foundation the A.R.E 50% off right now! Edgar Cayce's Association for Research and Enlightenment | Edgar Cayce's A.R.E. | Edgar Cayce's A.R.E. https://www.johnvanauken.com/ Visit Sense of Soul website www.mysenseofsoul.com and Sense of Soul Patreon to listen to more Sense of Soul Podcast, early releases, extended, exclusive episodes, Mande’s RAW and Shanna Ancestral mini series Untangled available now, check it out here! Please Rate, Review and Subscribe, we appreciate the love and support, Xoxo!
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Welcome to the Sense of Soul podcast. We are your hosts, Shanna and Mandy.
Grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. It's time to awaken.
Today we have with us a very special guest, John Van Auken, an acknowledged expert of Edgar Cayce
readings, the Bible, ancient prophecies, world religions, and meditation. He is the director of
the Edgar Cayce Foundation, the ARE, the Association for Research and Enlightenment,
and has been involved in this work for over 40 years. He has written over 30 books and recorded
numerous videos and audios. He has visited and led over 30 tours to Egypt and some 90 tours to ancient sites around
the globe. John is with us today to share his knowledge and wisdom found in over 14,000 readings
with topics of reincarnation to ancient Egypt and beyond. Mandy and I cannot wait to be his students today. Thank you so much for taking time
out of your busy life and schedule to join us. It's just such an honor. Thank you.
Oh, you're more than welcome. Where are you at, John?
Virginia Beach, where the headquarters of Edgar Cayce is.
I say this all the time. We've had on so many guests from Virginia. It's like,
you must just have the most amazing spiritual community there ever.
Like I might need to move there.
Something in the water?
I'm not sure.
Edgar Cayce said that it was a special zone, both a safety zone for earth changes and also a vibrational zone.
He also hinted that it was the new Egypt, the new location of Egyptian souls.
And a lot of us today already feel we were Egyptians and we are reincarnated Egyptians,
particularly since Edgar Cayce, one of his main past lives was Rata, an Egyptian high priest. So
all of that could be influencing it. We still find most of the
energies in California, though. Of course, Casey said that was Lemurian and Lemuria,
if you've heard of that ancient culture. What's in Colorado?
Colorado has the mountains and the high energy. And remember, Edgar, and most spiritual sources say, the higher you go,
the closer you are, was the theme of ancient cultures. So to go up on the mount, to meet
the source like Sinai and things like this, was symbolic of you going to your higher spiritual
centers, rising on the mount in yourself. So Colorado is the Mount.
I've lectured there many times. I fly in and it's like 5,000. Then they drive me up to 7,000
and I'm lightheaded and I start to get, you know, a little crazy. I think I'm going to start blaming
my crazy on that too. There you go. That's it. There's something about altitude that gets the earthy mind a little fuzzy.
Absolutely.
Why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself and tell us all about your discovery of Edgar
Cayce.
I read my first Cayce book when I was 16 years old.
I joined the staff when I was 24 years old,
and I've been on the staff ever since, which is 51 years. Most of my career was spent on the road,
traveling around, giving lectures and leading tours around the world to sacred sites,
writing and studying ancient cultures. I write a regular column for our
membership magazine, Venture Inward, on ancient wisdom from China to Egypt to India, all of Europe,
the Maya, Toltec, Aztec cultures, the Inca, you know, I've been everywhere and written all about them so basically what I've
been up to this incarnation sounds adventurous it has been yeah of course COVID has put a
screeching halt to much of it yeah so let me ask you out of all of the places that you've been, do you have a favorite one?
I do, but it's not going to be spectacular.
It's my deck in the backyard under an oak tree.
I love it.
That's spectacular to me.
Yeah, I have a Carolina hammock out there that I can lie in underneath the leaves of
that tree and the
sunshine and I get rejuvenated and renewed. And sometimes I get intuitive insights into a topic
I need to jump on. Do you find that, you know, since you've been doing this for so long or
involved in this great Edgar Cayce Foundation, that there was maybe like a pause in curiosity,
and now there's maybe a splurge of it recently? Yes. Cayce's reading of the Akashic Records
states that there are cycles and rhythms, and these cycles are necessary to allow for different phases, just like the human has an active day and then a sleeping night.
So nature and the cosmos has a rhythm.
Now, he does say once you get beyond the physical body and you are back in the spirit, The dimensions are not rigid cycles.
There's a oneness, a flow, and you can be in the flow and it's a steady rhythm.
But as you come back toward Mother Nature, you come back into her laws, which has the
rhythm and the cycles.
The same is with public interest, social activity and politics and finance and all those people cycle into deep interest and consume as much as they can and then pull away and three and a half years. He said the cycles are roughly three and a half
years, and then a greater cycle is seven years. So we find the same thing to be true. We can have
a year of our website getting 90 to 100,000 visitors, and then we can have a year where it
drops down to like 50 to 60,000 visitors. And people that were there before
are now living it or ruminating on it or distracted. So obviously you are a speaker.
Oh, yeah. 16 years old. Wow. Were your other friends reading the same type of literature?
I was the son of a naval officer. So I traveled every three years and I had to learn how to say
goodbye to friends I had made and hello to two people that were somewhat strangers. And middle
school and high school was difficult. I went to four different high schools because my dad became a NATO officer and he had to change bases regularly.
So my upbringing was curious in that sense. Now, once I got into my 20s and the staff,
I was in several study groups with like-minded people and we all had many, many encounters and long nights of talking and
ruminating on what life is really about and who are we really and all of that stuff.
But before that, I was moving around a lot. Well, do you think that the internet has kind of like
expanded this great awakening right now? Because I feel like there is a great awakening. And I feel
like it has to do with the technology. And just the fact that you and I and Mandy are able to
have this conversation is just amazing. I would say to you that going back to about 1960s,
when the souls came in and started talking about love, flower power, there was a movement of
incarnating souls. And then the 70s shifted it a little bit, took it to a little higher level
of love. And then we moved through several other cycles. So actually, the internet is the great channel distributor, but the souls are
carrying the wisdom, and more and more souls are coming in. And we like to say things like
crystal children and nicknames like that, but really, we're seeing the influx of souls already aware of a greater aspect of life than our parents or grandparents focused on?
I was sitting in meditation this morning and I was thinking about just how brilliant Edgar Cayce
was. I mean, travel was not as easy. He didn't have the internet. I mean, he is proof that channeling is a real thing. How else
could this man have gotten such amazing information? Well, when he read the Akashic
record on himself, he learned that when he was dying in a battle on the plains in ancient Persia, he went in and out of his physical body and his celestial mind.
And that experience stayed with him and helped him do the psychic readings this lifetime.
Plus, he was in temple training often. And in those temples, he was trained how to meditate deeply and how to perceive the language of the other consciousness, which is much more imagery and symbolism and energetics. would go into these trances and he knew nothing of what was going on. When he woke up, you had to
tell him, but that's how pure a channel he was. He himself tried to avoid tainting the information,
which if you studied psychics for the last 50 years, you know, that is the most difficult part of bringing truth into this world. They have their own prejudices,
their own slant, their own karma. Well, Casey was so unconscious. And because of his past training,
he could access the Akashic record and just purely let it flow. His one glitch was he read the Bible all the way through
every year of his life. So his language was the King James language. And that made it very
difficult. Oh, my gosh. Oh, I can imagine. Is it true that his first discovery of his channeling was as young as
like elementary school and was doing like spelling with his father?
That story is true. His dad was very angry that he didn't know any of the words for tomorrow's
spelling test. So he said to his father, dad, if you'll let me sleep on this book for about 15 minutes, I'll know every
word in it. Now, I had three children, and I don't know if I would have said yes to that. I hope I
would have. But his dad, for some reason, said, you got 15 minutes. And when he came back, he said,
dad, I don't just know the words for tomorrow. I know every word in that book and what page it's on.
And so his dad tested him.
But his mother also told the story of how when he was a little boy, they lived in a
rural setting.
Neighbors were far away.
And she looked out the kitchen window one time, and he was playing with fairies and little people and she saw them
and she realized he had friends they just weren't human friends I heard you talk about that about
like seeing being able to see these elementals and how I think it was in one of your books
it was amazing elementals yeah oh yeah you were discussing how if you're used to seeing with your ego mind, then that's what you see.
But if you go a little deeper, if this is where you're able to connect with your inner seeing clairvoyancy, then you may use that actually in the physical world as well.
Exactly. A way to think about it is when your soul projects yourself into the body that your mom's making in her womb for you to incarnate, a veil drops. If you have an intuitive sense to seek, then you can come through the veil.
And the more you do, the more transparent the veil becomes.
Some children are born with a very transparent veil and yet with extreme earthiness.
Mozart's the best example.
He could write a symphony at six that men at 60 could not
write. And yet he had earthy urges, something terrible. But so it's not so much the karma of
your body and flesh experiences as it is your mind. And Edgar used to say over and over, mind is the builder.
If you work with your mind, the veil can become transparent. But you have to understand there's
a dimension to your mind that is beyond your ego, your outer self. And so you have to get used to
surrendering and seeking. And gradually it'll come to you.
He said the safest way to come to you in the beginning is through dreams.
So if you'll work with dreams, you'll actually get to see the language of the deeper self,
which is usually most often different than our language.
So you need to develop skill with that language if you're going
to understand the deeper self. And then you get to the higher self and things are actually
multidimensional. And now you have to learn how to perceive without verbal content or words. And that becomes this overwhelming intuitive immersion in you that all you can say
is, I don't know how to articulate this, but I touched it. I know it. It's with me.
I had dreams of this old man with a red cape and he's telling me I need to take a sabbatical.
Tell me to find my druid stone.
He keeps coming to my dream.
I'm like, who the hell are you?
Just the most random things.
You see, your outer self is puzzled because it didn't think it had this.
But your inner self, this is part of your inner self.
It belongs to your inner self. Carl Jung would say, in a woman's dream, when a masculine figure appears,
it is the animus. It is her counterpart of her soul. She is the projected yin of the soul.
This is the yang of her soul. The red cape is like the cardinals in the Catholic Church. The red cape is the sacred carrier.
This is part of you talking to you.
This is an integral part of your psyche.
That red cape is you, a part of you that complements the outer you who's projected, who's incarnating.
And it's giving you symbolic tips of things to help you because it's you.
It's not like something else or an old past life character talking to you. It could be occasionally,
but most of the time it is an aspect of your greater self. That makes so much sense. Maybe
I wouldn't tell myself with this mind, but my higher self knew
you'd need a sabbatical. Yeah. Just to clarify, Jung would say if I, a projected male,
saw a strong or mysterious or even slightly scary female in my dreams, that would be my yin. And I'm seeing the power of my yin while I'm
projected yang, you know. And remember, Jung was the one who said, hey, John, if you want full
consciousness, you've got to get in touch with your feminine side. Going way back to the 1950s
and all, all of us seeking males have been pushed to getting in touch with our feminine side.
Our wives made damn sure we did. But Doris was also trying to get in touch with her masculine
side because the whole consciousness has both. And so keep that in mind. So like when I see a
powerful or even slightly frightening or mysterious female in my dreams and she's
conversing with me or trying to influence me. I watch for the meaning because that's me. That's
part of the whole me. I'm just a part. Jung said you're just a projected portion. Your whole
consciousness has both. How would you explain people like me who've had a near-death experience or like we had
on a gentleman by the name of David Ditchfield who came on who, after his near-death experience,
started writing symphonies as well?
Is that because our soul's gone into that dream state, that dimension?
Yes.
You see, really, meditation and sleep are shutting down the outer self in a death-like state.
Sleep is a shadow of death.
Deep meditation is a shadow of death.
So you physically died.
Therefore, your true mind, your eternal mind was free of the body containment, the body paradigm.
And that's when you touch all of this. And then when
you come back, it's like, oh man, I'm never the same. I've touched it. I know it's there.
Yeah. My exact thoughts. I was like, oh man, what is this?
Edgar went through a lot with his gifts and his channeling. He was considered practicing some demonic things, correct? Did he go through a lot of trouble with this gift? And is that why he kind
of created this safe space of the ARE? Yes, both in this world and in the darker realms. He said,
wherever there's a channel of light, and when you start to get closer to being an improved channel
of light, darkness will seek to enter. It will be attracted, and it will try to fool you,
distract you, trip you up over your own ego, over your apple of your eye, just like in the Garden of Eden. That was the symbol was,
if you have a human nature weakness or a karmic pattern that you've been repeating,
the dark side knows that. And it will try to slip it in when you get closer to your perfection, to your true spiritual awakening. So Edgar, when he was asked,
how will I know I'm on the right path? He said, when whatever you're doing makes you more humble,
more meek, more patient. And that's because you aren't going to be egotistical. And one of the dark forces favorite things to do is stroke your
ego and get you distracted with that. And I've seen many a wise person stumble.
Yeah. You can just see them on stage go, well, I am pretty brilliant.
And I'm highly spiritual.
Uh-oh.
In Egger's case, he actually had demon spirits try to enter him while he was in trance.
But fortunately, on the other side, and because of the way he prepared himself to enter trance and his wife, Gertrude, would give him the shielding protection before he entered.
And he would maintain that even when he was wrestling with a demon that tried to possess him or trick him.
Usually it was a finesse trick.
And you have to be very careful of that.
He would get through it or the reading would stop. Now in the outer life, he had lots of physical
people come to him that were deceptive, had lots of money, and he had none and said they would take
care of him for life, finance him and everything, but they wanted him to do it this way.
And he would have to back away
because they would try to take him away
from his mission,
which was strictly help others wherever they're at,
not just the upper echelon.
If they're physically struggling with illness,
help the illness.
If they're mentally struggling, help the mind. If they're physically struggling with illness, help the illness. If they're mentally
struggling, help the mind. If they're spiritually struggling, help the spirit. He suffered and,
you know, he never had any money. He was always broke and other people were funding his stuff.
So he could never say, okay, I'm going to spend money on this. He had no power to do that. So he was in fact testing his own
truth that he would hold to and whether he'd be tempted by other people who had wealth in power
or influence and go with them. And usually he didn't. A few times he did and stumbled and then he would come
back. I guess you've heard the stories of him trying to find an oil well in Texas or gold from
the Civil War. And he would lose some of his ability to get a good attunement to the Akashic
record or to the universal consciousness, which he often did.
So it was a struggle outside life and inside. When he was in the psychic area, he had to be careful
of illusions and demonic distractions. When I say demonic, you guys, I mean like dark angels,
dark spirits, also mean his own darkness.
Each of us has to see every corner of our mind and heart.
And you'll be surprised, latent in a corner will be a part of yourself you don't like.
And you didn't even think you had that.
And the light has to be shown on it and it has to be transformed.
Carl Jung, the great psychologist said, it's not
by cutting off any part of yourself, but by knowing every part and putting it in proper priority.
That's how you grow the best. I love that. And I love Carl Jung as well. I'm hoping that he did
at least pay his secretary who endlessly took, word for word, during his sessions.
Gladys Davis, older teenage girl when she was first hired to record his readings.
But when they got the past life readings, Gladys, Gertrude, his wife, Edgar, their two sons, and many of the people around them
were a soul group that had been traveling together through many lifetimes. So Gladys was not an
accident, not a lucky break. She was destined to work with him all his life. And I had the good fortune of being at ARE early enough to meet her and work with her
and chat with her. And I don't know if you know the concept of twin souls, but she was,
according to Casey, the twin soul of Edgar. And his wife, Gertrude, was the twin soul of their firstborn son, Hugh Lynn.
He went by two names, Hugh Lynn.
Did she have carpal tunnel from all the writing she did?
Back in those days, a secretary and a stenographer were real pros.
And you can actually see her steno book. You know how they're divided by a blue line and she's writing all these odd looking images.
No, she never had trouble with that. Typewriters were active then, though they were clumsy,
but they kept getting better and better. She had to type emphasis with all caps because a typewriter had no italics. But later when word processors came in,
you could italicize emphasis.
So when he raised his voice, if you're reading his reading,
you'll see she all caps it because she had no choice.
Typewriter wouldn't give her.
I do that now.
Believe it or not, Nancy and I did have typing when we were younger yeah i know in my own
journey when and i and i have a christian background louisiana catholic background so
french cajun well actually german creole german they actually claimed to be French Cajun, but then after my DNA journey
and research, I was a German Creole. Wow. Yeah. Right. Very interesting.
Very interesting. But in my journey, I picked up the Bible. Now I had already really freed
myself from the box of conditions, but I picked up the bible anyways and I started
to read at the beginning like I had read the bible many many times I've always been curious
since I was very little all of a sudden the words are different to me in fact I can't even get past
the first chapter because now I'm I'm like wait minute. What? What am I? This is not what I read.
And I'm thinking, is this that Mandela effect or something? I'm like, this wasn't here.
Right. What the hell is in Nephilim? I'm like, what is this? Wait a minute. They slept with
Adam's daughter. Wait, what? Are we aliens? Yeah. Everything changed. Yes. Yeah. Zechariah Sitchin made a career of writing about aliens influencing
the breeding of human-esque beings on the earth into the generation we know. And the Bible is full,
especially chapter six of Genesis, where the Nephilim are mentioned, but they're also in Numbers, in the book of Numbers.
And then there's a legend among the Inca of remnants of the Nephilim landing on their shore.
In the numbers of the Bible, they say they only reached their kneecaps. A normal human was just
as tall as their kneecaps. But the Incas say they were
about the size to their waist. Now that shows that the Nephilim are shrinking, and this is a remnant.
And remember, God washes the whole creation number one, the first creation, and starts over
in chapter six. And that's the world you and I know about.
The second creation, it's called in most ancient research.
But the first creation was a real mess.
Yeah, I started to get the other books too.
And that was really filling in a lot of blanks.
The book of Enoch and even some of the books
in the book of Thomas in the New Testament. I started to read
all these things that I hadn't before. I just wonder how Edgar, or if he even deeply spoke about
how he felt as he was reading the Bible daily, experiencing what I feel like is your most truth is your experiences within. Yeah, he talked a lot about that. And I had lots of time with Gladys to hear her recount his
feelings. Honestly, early on, it troubled him. He worried that he might be deceived by some element that was involved in his trance state.
But gradually, as he saw more and more people material taking the light of God worldwide, not just Kentucky
Christian, you know, he started to become a much broader-minded Christian. And I would say when he started giving the readings on universal Christ consciousness, he really changed. And when the readings told him or the Akashic record told him or the universal consciousness, whatever term you want to use, that Christ consciousness was consciousness of the Father Spirit or the God Spirit within you. And that definition helped him reach beyond the limits of his religion into spirituality.
So I'm telling you that in his 20s and 30s, he was uncertain.
And especially when the depression, he lost the hospital and he lost everything.
Everything was lost. Gradually in his late 30s, early 40s, he started to recover. And that's when
he really gave some great readings of the Akashic record or the universal consciousness. Yeah, it was hard. It is hard for us too, because as Jung pointed out,
you can't ignore your upbringing. It influenced you subconsciously. And if you were told this is
the way it is, it took a lot for you to break away and say, well, not necessarily, mom. There's more to that. That takes a lot because you love mom and your,
your flesh is her flesh. Remember your flesh was her flesh. Your father contributed one shot
and jeans, but her whole body for nine months made you. So it's very hard to reach away from the first seven, 10 years of your life and start to, unless your soul is already has a very transparent veiling comes in with a lot of knowing, which many souls are doing these days, many.
I was a little taken back and received some like downloads about the Essene last year. Yeah.
What do you know of the Essene? I'm curious. I wrote a whole book on the Essene. It's right up
here on my bookshelf here. The mysterious Essene. Really, if you have a curiosity about them, you probably were one of them.
Oh, okay.
They begin in the ancient times with Samuel, the prophet Samuel, and the developments of a school of the prophets, it was called.
And they come all the way up to John the Baptist and Mount Carmel.
And all of this is in the book with pictures and everything. And basically, they were a semi-secret
organization. I say semi because they believed in infiltrating civilization, especially government structure, to help whisper the light among those
who had the earthy power. For example, Cayce says, the wife of Herod's hairdresser and maid
was in a scene that she didn't know. While she was fixing her hair and making her beautiful for her vain husband. She whispered things to her,
spoke softly about greater truths and about the divinity of femininity, which was put down
something terrible during Herod's time. And remember Pontius Pilate's wife said to him,
I had a dream last night. Don't judge this man. Be careful. And Pilate wouldn't
because his wife warned him. Well, these women were the channels of the deeper truth,
even though the macho males were in charge and very much egocentrically proud of themselves and
had the power. They listened to their women. So the Essenes kept private.
Their temple was in Mount Carmel, not in Jerusalem. They believed male and female were one.
They were equal. So when you read the New Testament and you see Jesus's baby body being
shown in the temple to a female female the only temple that could have happened
was Mount Carmel the Essene temple because they had female priests where the Jerusalem temple
would never allow that and so all their records in are in Qran, which is the desert part down there near the Dead Sea.
But their temple was way up northwest in Mount Carmel.
So they had two locations and they pretty much stayed to themselves.
They had an initiation.
But at the same time, they felt their mission included seeding the material world, the egocentric world.
I was so excited when I saw you wrote that book.
I text Chana this morning, like I have to ask him about the Essene.
I can't believe I haven't.
So then was Jesus, when he was going around and speaking, was he speaking of the Essene's beliefs?
Actually, Edgar says John the Baptist
was more an Essene than Jesus. Jesus had gone to the East and learned the wisdom of the Eastern
world, so he had a more balanced view. Mary, his mother, was definitely Ess a scene and his earthly physical father, Joseph, they were both as scenes.
In fact, Joseph was almost 40 when he was told they wanted him to marry the temple virgin Mary, who was 15.
And he said, what are you talking about? I can't do this.
And they said, no, we have an angel has told us she is the chosen one, but she's not getting pregnant.
So we want you to marry her because you have no lust left in your body and it'll be the purest conception possible.
So he agrees. And then, of course, the angel comes to him and says, your wife's pregnant, but don't judge her.
It was by and the quote is the most high.
So Joseph gets up the next morning and said, okay, she's pregnant. I won't touch her.
We'll do this thing quietly. And he didn't tell anybody, which is amazing.
And then he goes missing. Well, he takes them into Egypt and hides from Herod Zedek to kill all the baby boys two years and younger.
Now, can you imagine a town in which the army is pulling baby boys out and stabbing them from two years younger?
The terror and the blood had to be ridiculous and upsetting.
Then before that, they flee, so they're not there.
So did Elizabeth with her baby John the Baptist.
She fled too.
So then when Herod dies, they all come back and start the mission then.
Joseph was still alive, but he plays a background role. And I know this is going
to be hard for you to hear, and I know your listeners are not going to like this, but the
Akasha says that once Jesus became 12 years of age, which was the age of majority in those times. Nowadays, it's 18.
But back then it was 12.
He leaves the family home and goes east.
While he's gone, I know this is hard to accept.
Joseph and Mary have natural love for each other.
And they produce Jesus's brother James. And there's a whole research done by scholars on the existence of Jesus having a brother named James. And you'll notice when Jesus comes back
during his mission, his disciples come to him during a talk he's given and say, hey, your mother
and brother are at the door and want to talk to you. What do you mean,
brother? The brother was James, son of Joseph and Mary through natural Jewish marriage consummation.
I know it's hard because we Christians like to think Mary was just absolutely beyond feminine and beyond normal yeah do you believe like that the seeding of these children
that were not made of consummation that they are much like um you know they were also mentioned
in the old testament as well do you believe that that still happens today or is was that only for um yeah yeah that's very rare uh and it's mostly done to shock
the materialistically dominant mind into thinking physicality is the absolute truth and spirituality is some sort of enhancement when it's the it's the reverse but
uh casey says bodily sharing has been sanctified way way back in the in the olden age the spirit sanctified physical sexual intercourse between loving people. Edgar said,
let sex be a result of love motivation, not just for gratification or desire or power. Often sex
is power, dominance. He said it should always be a result of love. And he said,
if you consummate, if there's a baby made during a lovemaking session,
these are his words, the weakness is not put in the body made. If it's for gratification and all, then he implies that the body being made will have the vibe of seeking gratification.
So like my wife and I, my late wife and I, we tried to follow this.
So we had sexual relations that were very normal for all married couples, and even before we were married,
loving couples. But when it came to when we were going to make a baby, we did the very sacred stuff
that Edgar talked about. She prepared herself beforehand. I prepared myself. When we came
together, we tried to have no earthy, carnal desire or thoughts. Now for a male,
that's real hard because he has to get it up. The truth is, I worked on thinking of energy.
So it was more a tantric activity for me in order to keep my mind in the right place. And then I could do my part with Doris and we had three babies done that way. good, good people. I cannot say any more because I don't have a psychic insight into them. But I
know we followed the guidelines of Casey on this matter. So I want to tell you a funny aside. I
call it once I read this, I called my mom. I said, Hey, is there any chance when you and dad conceived
me that it was a rather spiritual moment she's
oh no way honey she said but i love you
and i said okay mom thanks
that is hilarious i have three children with my ex-husband and one with my my partner now
and it was a partner that I've known since
second grade. He was my first kiss. We've got this magnet connection thing. And I call our
daughter our love child because I feel like it was purposeful. Right. Exactly. Yeah. A love child
is the ideal in Edgar Cayce's mind. And the more love children being born, and I'm talking
about normal sexual activity, conceiving them, the more the world is going to be tilted toward
that vibe. He said, once the vibe rises to a certain level, it overcomes the earthy vibe. And suddenly, love spreads. I've been in China.
I've been in Tibet. I have been all around the other parts of the world, Africa, South America.
Love is rising everywhere. Now, you won't see it in the news much. You won't see it in politics but behind the scene people care more than they
have ever cared before i know this yes i try not to watch the news because i feel like when i do
talk to people and in their true experiences that's all i get is love yeah even in the worst
like mandy can tell you her brother's master sergeant what comes out of his
mouth is more love than hate in any way yep i i did my tour vietnam navy air and my father was
30 years in pearl harbor he went down on the california and my son went to Afghanistan and Bahrain and all, and all of us did it for goodness sake, not for power
or victory or to take new lands, imperialism. We did it with a motivation of trying to do what was
good. And in hindsight, some of it was not so good, but we didn't realize that at the time.
So I know military hearts and minds.
They are often very good and nothing like politicians' minds.
Thank you and your family for your service very, very much.
You're very welcome, really.
I love it and they love it too.
Are you part of Edgar's soul family, soul group?
Of course, I'm part of the soul group, the intimate family structure I'm not part of,
but the soul group, there's no doubt. I was a priest in ancient Atlantis in the temple. I was
in a certain temple. Edgar was in another temple, a higher temple. Atlantis in the temple. I was in a certain temple.
Edgar was in another temple, a higher temple. My temple was the temple of the heart chakra, and I was the priest involved there.
Then incarnations subsequent to that, Edgar and I were there, but we were still separate
families with separate activities.
And in Louis XV's court, again, we were there.
But still, I wasn't of his and Gladys's intimate family. Okay.
Have you felt like your purpose in life is to travel around and find things to validate Edgar's channeling and messages?
Is it to evolve it and add on the knowledge you found or both?
It's both plus to be a teacher of the concepts.
Okay.
So when I go to China, believe it or not, they are hungry for this.
Really?
Oh, yes.
The audience.
Now, let me tell you another thing.
They're richer than us. So when I'm in Shanghai or Beijing, those audiences are hungry for this my goodness, they want to hear what I
have to say. Understand these people already have the concept of reincarnation, so that's not new.
But I noticed they too are just like Edgar said, all humans are of one family. They all have the truth within them. All they need is a breath to inflame the ember still
in their soul mind, and it will light up again. Same in Africa, Europe, Russians, South Americans.
They all have their unique culture, so you have to work within that cultural paradigm. Just like Jung said, you can't ignore
the influence of the culture that they grew up in. But at the same time, they're all the same
deep inside. So I do confirm some things while I'm involved. But my main role is to convey
these teachings and let them judge for themselves whether they're valuable
or not. I teach meditation almost everywhere. That's the number one request, how to get deep
meditation. And I've written several books on deep meditation. And the magic silence. I love that.
Yes, the magic silence is the one I use on people who've never meditated or tell me they come up and say, I've been meditating for eight years with no effect.
And I say, OK, I got a technique I guarantee will work.
And I sit with them and do the magic silence.
And they're high as kites.
And I can't get them out.
I push them.
I say, OK, it's over now.
You know, we're 35 minutes.
Come back. Well, you near death people know you don't really want to come back.
Oh, facts. Yeah. So I have to help them. So no, no, there's more to do here.
Yeah. So true. So hard to bring yourself back. Cause I would stay up there too. Do you believe that we often
reincarnate in our own lineage? I have a story where somebody that was in my past life regression,
I'm actually DNA connected to, we're both like in the past life regression, we were under a
plantation owner. And in my DNA, sure enough, we were under a plantation owner and so I was like wow girl
there's the southern girl yeah the answer is both yes and no I'll give you a yes example
young Edgar Cayce's grandfather not father grandfather magical. He could make the brooms dance. He could move water buckets.
He did tricks that Edgar loved, and he knew Edgar understood them. Okay, grandfather,
father, Edgar's born. He gives birth to Hugh Lynn Casey. Hugh, Casey gives birth to grandfather.
Lineage.
But there are many, many examples in the readings in which you break out of lineage altogether.
You break out of race. And if you get an attitude toward a gender, there's no faster way to teach you about that gender than to force you to reincarnate in that gender. If you get an attitude about a race, there's no faster way to teach you
than to force you to be incarnate in that race in a country that has an attitude about that race.
That's the fast way. So, Edgar showed many ways of that. Like, for example, a priest with
homosexual tendencies begged Edgar to help him.
And first thing Edgar did in trance was say, is it little wonder he who persecuted and mocked gays in Louis' court
is reincarnated in a position of sacred honor with homosexual tendencies and he's around men all the time. This is your karma,
you've got to meet it. But in other cases, homosexuality was not karmic, it was some other
dynamic. And I know it can get weird. But let's say, and this happens, Edgar says, a male body is born and the yin of the soul projects into it. Now you have a feminine
male. If a female body is born and the yang projects into it, you have a masculine female,
you see? So it's not always karma. And so I don't want to confuse things about homosexuality and all, but there are many
ancient cultures that are famous. Think of Alexander the Great and all, where homosexuality
was common with heterosexuality. And if you reincarnate from that, you might not have the
discipline that the current culture has. See what I mean? There's a lot of reasons,
so don't lock it in. But I was giving you an example of that priest's karmic meeting,
and he did well. He did well, not like some of our priests today.
Have you ever come across some of Edgar's teachings where you were like,
nope, not listening to this. This does not align
with me. I'm nope, putting it to the side. Yeah, absolutely. I was about 18 years old when I read
Edgar said that we were destined and chose our parents to come through. And I said, he's wrong
there. I would have never chosen these two. And when I was a little boy, I had a recurring nightmare of being born to these
two people. And I'll briefly tell it to you. I saw myself out in space and I saw the little blue and
white planet and suddenly like Star Trek, some sort of magnetic energy grabbed me and pulled me
toward that planet. And I kept fighting against it,
but it was like a tractor beam, you know, it had me. And I came into New Jersey through the clouds
into an ugly gymnasium of the 1910s, you know, with bars on the window, barren, and I come right
through the bars. And there's my mom and dad with no eyes sitting at
a card table. And I look at him and I scream, no. And every time I had that nightmare, my mom would
shake my arm and say, wake up, honey. It's just the dream. And I'd go, no. When I saw her.
Not you.
Not you. Not you.
But in my 30s and 40s, my mother and dad and I healed a lot of our dislike of one another, our karma.
And we started to play bridge together, to play cards together.
And in our old age, I was the oldest son.
So I took care of them a lot. My dad's still alive. He's 102 and lives down the street. No Walker, no meds really appreciate one another.
I'm not saying we ever had emotional love for one another, but deep appreciation of one another and enjoying one another's company we had.
My mother was more in love with my brother, my second brother,
and my dad really loved my third brother.
It's okay. It was okay. You picked them. That's right.
I do want to talk about the Edgar Cayce Foundation, the ARE, and just what that is. And I know that he had some like 14,000 cases or
something or readings that he did that were recorded. That's a lot. Oh, yeah. And they're
all indexed. They're all available. We're a membership organization. And our members can
go into the member section of our website, which is massive. And we get about 90,000 visitors a month.
And if they're a member, they can go in and actually search the readings on topics. But we
also have a massive health database they can access. Like if you type in arthritis, you're
going to get all his readings on arthritis. So we're mostly a membership organization, but we have an educational wing.
Like we have a master's degree in transpersonal psychology and in transpersonal leadership.
We have a massage school, the Casey Riley School of Massage and Hydrotherapy, and students
can attend that. And then we put on conferences,
tours, weekend seminars. We do a lot of webinars. Since last year, March of last year, when COVID
shut down travel, I have been building virtual tours around the world sacred tours and every Wednesday night we have a webinar
and then on Saturdays we have a zoom workshop and so a lot's going on and there's many different
speakers too you guys always have like I remember one day I was looking up and and I was like who
was it Mandy oh it was Echo Bodine who I love We had her on early on because her books are some of my favorite.
And I was like, I saw her pop up on our email and I was like, oh, Echo. And then I was like, she's doing a talk in here.
So, yeah, very neat. You guys have a lot of wisdom that comes through that you share, even on, you know, in addition to Edgar's amazing work. Edgar actually said to reach beyond and bring in other people because it's like looking at a
diamond, they'll show a different facet. Yeah. By the way, I have a writing speaking course
free going on right now at ARE. So if you go to our website, EdgarCasey.org, you can actually search for the
free writer speaker. If you are moved in your soul to become a writer, I have been writing for
decades. I've written over 30 some books and I have been doing videos and TV shows and lectures. So I actually for free give you a whole training session and then you can submit drafts of your writing to me or your video on just using your cell phone.
And don't go over three minutes because you can't attach it.
It's too big a file.
I know that. Yeah. So any of you who are full of the light and want to channel it through writing or teaching, the course is free.
Kudos to you. I can't even imagine like writing as many books as you have. That's so amazing. I mean,
we've had on a guy, it took him 25 years just
to write one. I mean, that it's just amazing how many you've written. It blew my mind when I looked
them all up and they're all of so many different topics. So thank you for putting those out there.
I can't wait to get the one on the scene and oh gosh, there's so many. Well, you know what? I
mean, you have to have something to write about when you've been to Egypt.
How many fricking times?
Uh, 41.
But remember I'm 75.
There's a lot of never actually.
No, he never made it there in the third dimension.
He made it there a lot in the fourth dimension.
That's amazing. Well, I do want
to ask you, though, one more thing. What's up with 2038? I want to read the book, and I don't want to
just fill it all. Oh, I can tell you. Yeah, I would like to know, because it doesn't seem like it's
that far off now. It's not far off. We're heading right into it. In the 1600s, one of the European archaeologists discovered a
correlation between the Egyptian Book of the Dead, particularly chapter 15, and the inside of the
Great Pyramid. But it wasn't until the 1800s that some archaeologists really dug into this,
the French and the British archaeologists, and some Italian ones. And then
in 1910, David Davidson published the book in which he correlated it all and showed the prophecy
inside the Great Pyramid. Then in 1930, Egger was asked, is Davidson's stuff any good? And he said, in the total, yes, in some areas exaggerated.
And I teach where it's exaggerated and where it is right on. And when he was asked, well,
what does it mean when the prophecy ends at the apex in the king's chamber? And he said that a new human body form will have 12 chakras.
Now, Kabbalah already teaches three more above the body, has 10.
But Edgar says, ultimately, you'll have 12.
They are somewhat in your auric body, but they're connected to your carnal body, your organic body, and you will be much less dense, lighter, and your soul will be
able to be aware beyond the world while you're in the world, very much, he says, like we were
in Atlantis. In fact, he gives the name of a female Atlantis priestess who lived in both realities. And she lived for 8,000 years because she could regenerate her body.
So this is the beginning of a new era. And he said, ultimately, when the revelation says
Satan will be bound or banished for a thousand years, he said, put it in your heart to be here
then. That's the golden age. and it's coming. We are in the
transition. Archangel Gabriel said to Daniel, he said, a time, times, and a half time. Edgar said,
the time, times, and a half time are over. We are in the transition to the new age. The Armageddon
is upon us. The dark and light forces are battling it out. It's going to be intense.
And then suddenly it's going to flip over.
And he says that the wombs of the earth will be at such a high vibe,
you won't be able to incarnate unless you have a high vibe.
Women are the channel into this world, he says.
They're the only way you get in here.
If they shift, now I have been among Muslim women
and they are weary of terrorism
and offering up their babies to death and terrorism.
That means their own minds are starting to change
the vibes of their wombs.
Do you see?
If more and more women around the planet start to get an attitude about this,
and the vibration of their womb is elevated,
you can't come through that womb unless you have a harmonic vibration.
And so Satan will be bound for a thousand years, only souls of love and light. Now the apparitions of Mother Mary, she tells the same thing, get ready. It's almost here.
You must prepare yourselves because you won't be able to go in if your heart has any hatred, any negativity, or you have heavy regrets, you're walking around heavy, then you're too heavy to
come into the light age. Is COVID a part of this? Yes, it is a part of this. Matthew 24 in the New
Testament, Jesus said, all these things will happen, but they are the birth pains to the new era. Yes, there'll be suffering. There'll be wars.
Hearts will grow cold, he says. Hearts will grow cold, but these are the birth pains. Now,
only a few Bible translations keep the original statement of birth pain. a woman birthing a new baby has to dilate your consciousness and then
push on your, the uterus of your mind to bring your true self out and your ego self falls away.
It's just like a woman. In fact, Jesus says that at the last supper, this is a lot like a woman
pregnant. And now my hour
has come upon me to deliver this. Okay, so we have one last thing.
And now it's time for break that shit down.
I suppose it's the promise. If you seek, you absolutely are guaranteed to find. It's part of karma.
Whatever goes around comes around. But more than that, whatever you desire, you draw. If you desire
to know, you draw knowledge to you. If you desire to be forgiven, you draw forgiveness to you. It's a law.
And so if you seek, whatever you're seeking, I guarantee you, it will come to you.
Thank you so much, John. It's been a pleasure. Yes, it has. Can you tell everybody real quick where they can
find you and get all of your amazing books and all that good stuff? Do you have one place?
Well, I have a website, johnvanalkin.com. But if you have questions and things like that,
my email at ARE is simply john at edgarcasey.org. Now, Casey spelled the French way C-A-Y-C-E. But if you type
in the British way, C-A-S-E-Y, we own that too. So you'll find me. You'll find me no matter what.
And I'm online all the time. So if you search me on Google, you'll find
YouTube videos everywhere. If they want to join the ARE, where do they go?
Edgar Casey.org slash join. Okay, very simple. And we have a special offer half price right now.
If you're hot to join, this would be a great time because eventually they're going to go back up the full price. You've been just a pleasure. I mean, I feel so very honored to have had you. We were so excited.
We wanted to, you know, talk about the tombs and the Egyptians and all these things, but
you know, there's, I mean, we could talk to you like once a week.
If you want that type of stuff, I could come back and share my screen and actually talking about, you know, the ancient aliens
and the ancient history that, you know, we're just discovering, Nancy and I are just like drooling.
And you know what, John, you're a wonderful speaker and you're very charismatic. And I can't
even imagine how many times you've spoken, told these these messages but it seems like when you're saying
them it's the first time you've ever said it you can feel that energy and that love coming out of
you and your eyes change and your lips and your mouth change and it's like it's you it's part of
you and so you're really great at it and I can tell how much this means to you and teaching it. So thank you for all of these years of your research and studies and speaking.
Thank you for having me. Really, I enjoyed this time together.
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