Sense of Soul - Empowered Empaths

Episode Date: July 12, 2024

In this episode Sense of Soul host Shanna Vavra chats with The Reluctant Medium, Maria T. Rothenburger, PhD. Professional Counselor, Fertility Coach, Bestselling Author, & Intuitive Empath. Dr Maria is a mother and friend, and she is one of the founding members of the Ethereal Network. She is the host for the Reluctant Medium previously the Miracles Happen Fertility Podcast, and you now watch her show on Ethereal TV. Maria combines grounded, scientific strategies and mystical, spiritual tools to help people who are struggling to build their family. She helps people move from brokenhearted, frustrated, and stuck to open to connected, and peaceful. Whether you’re looking to heal or you’d like a reading, you will leave with tools to use on your own after a session with Dr Maria and for the rest of your life! She is the #1 Bestselling Author of Transcending Infertility: 9 Keys for Improving Fertility, Creating Miracles, and Being a Better Human. In this book you’ll find:  Dr Maria shares her heart-wrenching story of crawling through the muck and debris of infertility-as well as the practical steps and tools that helped her shift from an overwhelming sense of darkness to a profound, positive change in mind, body, and soul. www.drmariarothenburger.com www.senseofsoulpodcast.com Check out Sense of Soul on Patreon and look for this episode soon on Ethereal TV. www.etherealtv.net

Hello, my soul-seeking friends. It's Shanna. Thank you so much for listening to Sense of Soul podcast, enlightening conversations with like-minded souls from around the world, sharing their journey of finding their light within, turning pain into purpose, and awakening to their true sense of soul. If you like what you hear, show me some love and rate, like, and subscribe. And consider becoming a Sense of Soul Patreon member, where you will get ad-free episodes, monthly circles, and much more. Now go grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. It's time to awaken. Hey, it's Shanna. Thanks so much for being with me. Today I have with me the reluctant medium,

Dr. Maria T. Rothenberger. Dr. Maria is a professional counselor, a fertility coach, a best-selling author, and an intuitive empath. Along with myself, Dr. Maria is one of the founding members of Ethereal Network, a group of like-minded podcasts who got together to support each other's purpose of raising the consciousness of humanity. And Dr. Maria and I are so excited to Happen Fertility Podcast and has since shifted to the reluctant medium, which you can find her show on Ethereal TV. Although a psychotherapist by trade, Dr. Maria reluctantly trained in mediumship. She combines grounded scientific strategies with mystical spiritual tools. Dr. Maria is also a best-selling author of Transcending Infertility, Nine Keys to Improving

Fertility, Creating Miracles, and Being a Better Human. Whether you're looking to connect with spirit babies, get a reading, healing, or coaching from Dr. Maria. You are sure to leave your session with life-changing tools. I can't wait to share her amazing spirit with all of you. So please welcome my beautiful friend, Dr. Maria. Dr. Maria is here with me. Finally, I'm super excited to have her. Yay! Stoked! We've tried this a couple times, but it was just meant to happen today. So that's all. Absolutely. Yep. We have a lot in common. And we also are a part of the Ethereal Network, which is super exciting. Yes. I'm excited for that. And I can't wait to see what you do.

Do you want to share what you'll be doing on the show. And yeah, lots of people. I have a whole year booked already. I put that email out and within two hours, it was a year was booked a year of the show. It's crazy. I didn't get the email. I wanted to come on. All right. Well, okay.

Now, Shanna, I'm making room for you. No problem. Yes. That'd be so fun. So yeah, I'll be doing that. Okay, nice, Shanna. I'm making room for you. No problem. Yes, please. That'd be so fun. So yeah, I'll be doing that. It'll be readings. And then, so like each show will be a combination of like of my personal life as the reluctant medium

and a reading or two in the show. Yeah, it'll be fun. You've kind of been going through a shift lately. So people might know you more for spirit baby stuff. And then you shifted to Reluctant Medium. Was it last year? Yeah. Well, so actually, I'm a therapist.

Wah, wah. No. We all need to get therapists. We all need that. I know. We do. Yeah. I started, I'm a psychotherapist, and that's where I really started specializing

in fertility issues. And then it moved into spirit baby work. So I had a podcast called The Miracles Happen Fertility Podcast, which was a lot of mental health stuff, but also these spiritual sort of, they say woo-woo things, lots of spiritual stuff, energetic things, quantum physics, all that stuff. And then I decided to broaden outside of the fertility world and do more of everything, more than just fertility stuff. And so I decided to rebrand to The Reluctant Medium. And so it's everything. It's spirit babies, it's other energetic things, other readings, tarot readings, oracle readings, just general intuitive readings.

And then I interview people like you who are, you were on my podcast. Yay. Talking about Sophia and all those beautiful souls and lots of feedback on that episode because I don't know if you saw the title, but it was called a different, I can't remember something about Christianity, a whole new way to look at Christianity like you've never heard of. It's amazing. Go see that. Go listen to that episode or watch it on YouTube. Anyway, so I interview lots of people like you who have other ways of thinking and aren't so tied to this reductive way of thinking of the world, materialistic, reductive way.

It doesn't exist if we can't measure it and see it. Were you always spiritual or were you more scientific like your field? Yeah, I was definitely left brain sciencey, you know, like, give me some protocols to follow and give me some evidence to back it up that but I always knew there was something else. I just felt an undercurrent of something there has to be something else explainable. I didn't I didn't think it was religion for me. I'm not a religious person, but I am curious about it. I love looking at Christianity, at Buddhism, at Islam, everything. I'm curious about how people believe and what they incorporate into their worlds.

Native American practices I love to learn about. But I was always sensitive. I was always sensitive as a kid. I didn't see things or hear things like a lot of other psychic mediums, or at least I don't remember that. What I remember is that I was kind of shut down. I was labeled dramatic. I was labeled too emotional. I was labeled too much. If you need to cry, go to your room. And when you're ready, come back out. You know, it was that. If I'm being teased, I'll get over it.

You know, but I just felt like my feelings and my emotions were a lot bigger than other people's. And I was so empathic. I was feeling other people's shit all the time. So if somebody was sad, I felt their sad. If somebody was anxious, I felt their anxiety. And I just thought I would be a good therapist because of that. So I was just intuitive that way. So people could say words, but I'd be like, that's not what they're feeling. And so in the therapy session, I will say, what do you think about this? Is this what's underneath that? And then it just really enhances my work as a therapist. But then if you really want to know the goods, I was seeing a client who had lost her twins and I was doing traditional grief work with her. She lost tragically her twins inero, and they just popped into my awareness.

And that was my first experience of psychic mediumship. I thought I was psychotic, not psychic. Was it powerful? Did you tell her right away? No. Right away? Oh, heck no. No, no, no?

I was freaked out. I thought that I was crazy. I did. I thought I was going crazy. And so I left that session and I went home. I had a 50 minute commute at the time and they were, oh, this is information that I will be talking with Summer Mixed Traffic about. Yay. Thanks for that connection. I was listening to her podcast, Flow Dreaming. And for whatever reason, these babies decided to play around with my iPhone at the time, go back and forth between all these summer mixed traffic podcast episodes.

And it landed on an episode right when she said, get over yourself. And I was like, you cheeky little shit. Okay, Fine. So I went about my business. I didn't say anything. It was weeks. They kept messing with my stereo, with my radio, with my podcast stuff in my car. They were moving things around in my house. They were telling me it was them. One of them in particular was really, really feisty. The other one was super chill. But finally, I met with her. And during the session, I said, how open are you? Because I can barely focus on the session. I'm like, tell her, you got to tell her that how open are you? And she said, I'm really open. I said, okay,

with your permission, I'm going to ask that we pause the therapy and I will extend your session because this thing is happening that I can't explain. I don't know what's happening. I don't know what this is about. Now I had no skill at this time. So I'm telling her what these babies are telling me. I'm crying. I'm crying in this session. I am so sorry. I don't know what I'm doing. It's just coming through.

I'm feeling all the pain. I swear I'm not a crazy therapist. I know. I'm not naughty. I promise. So they're telling me things that I couldn't know. They told me about this memorial thing that they had in the baby's nursery, a shelf with these teddy bears on it they were showing me. She's like, yeah, they're Molly bears. This company, Molly Bears, makes these bears that are weighted the same

weight as the babies. They were on the shelf. Pictures falling off the wall, doorbells ringing in the middle of the night. I'm like, is this happening? This happening? This happening? She's like, yes, yes, yes. She just confirmed all of the things. And I'm like, sorry, I don't know. I don't know what this is. But then the babies went in to explain what happened. For her privacy, I'm not going to say, but they explained why this had to happen. And I'm telling you, Shanna, that created more healing than I think that I could have helped her move toward in traditional psychotherapy. All of the tools that you had. Wow. You know, that kind of happened with me.

I had a session with this girl. She had come in to get a massage. I'd say like 80% of my clients are Reiki, you know, like half Reiki, half massage. But this lady was not. And I didn't know her for shit either. She was like a new client. And she comes in and she's telling me about how she had a new baby. And then all of a sudden, having a knowing that her father is around and that I'm supposed to tell her that her dad was around.

And I'm like, so what'd you name the baby? Because that was another thing. I was just like getting these intuitive hits to ask questions. And she's like, well, we named him after my dad. He passed away not long ago. And then finally, I think I said something similar like you did. Like, how open are you to the other side? But yeah, but you know, you do kind of have to use a little bit of your intuition but also

fish a little bit to see how people are especially if they're not open which I'm sure most people that come to you now are wide open yeah now they are yeah yeah yeah you know I'm not like the the Long Island medium where she's in the grocery store and she's like, I have an uncle coming. He doesn't like your shirt. Whatever. I don't know. You're the reluctant medium. Hello. I am the reluctant medium. Yes. People ask me, why? Why are you reluctant? And it's because I'm a therapist, man. It's like, oh my God, it's like career suicide. But it turns out it's not. I'm running into more and more therapists who are like me and maybe even offer some kind of

combination. I get that question. That is like one of the number one questions that people message me. Do you have a recommendation of someone, a therapist that is spiritual? That is awesome. Fantastic. And yeah, and more and more of us are owning our spiritual connection, our intuitive connection, psychic mediumship, psychic, whatever. I've had clients come in who I'm seeing people right by them. I'm like, there is a person right by this person, but I'd never say anything because I kept therapy and spirituality completely separate. Now I'm starting to feel a lot more comfortable integrating the two if it's warranted and asked for because people know what I do now when they come to see

me for therapy. Well, and like you said, it was so much healing. There's so much healing with that. This is all divine energy that is orchestrating this gift that you're using for their greater good. And you know what's so interesting, Dr. Marla, is that I, no wonder, you and I have a very similar vibe. Like we talked about this the other day, we're on the same vibe. And now I understand. I mean, much like you, when I was younger, I was such an empath. I was called a nanny baby. But you know, it was my first there. No, it wasn't my first therapist. In fact, I went through many therapists working a lot on codependency. Right.

And I was your definition. You looked up codependency and it was my picture. You know, me too. We're the same. We're the same. But my last therapist had said to me, her name's Jennifer. I used to talk about her all the time she said maybe you need to stop calling yourself codependent and blaming all of the things in her life on this codependency and look up the word empath and I never even heard the word and even

when I looked it up there was only a few things like on Pinterest I mean there wasn't even a lot out there at the time like but then I read and read and I listened to a few things and I was like, oh my God, that is me. That is always me. And here I was physically, mentally, emotionally carrying everybody's things. It was so beautiful to be able to surrender all of those things that were not mine to carry anymore and then learning to use it as a gift like we were just talking about. Okay. Next level. Yep. Yep. Next level, making it useful somehow, not a detriment and creating protection so that you're not having to absorb all the people's things. I said codependency is a toxic empath or an empath that is in dysfunction with our gift.

Yeah, yeah. A burdened, a burdened empath. Highly sensitive person is a concept in psychotherapy. Yeah, yeah, a burdened empath. Highly sensitive person is a concept in psychotherapy. It's a personality characteristic that more and more people are learning about. It's not an empath quite. They are a little bit different. So a highly sensitive person can sense other energy, other people's stuff or the energy

in the room or whatever. And they have other sensory stuff like lights can be too bright, sounds too loud, et cetera. Empaths absorb it. So you walk around feeling like you would just walk past somebody on the street and they're sad. And suddenly you're like, why am I sad? I don't know why I'm sad, but it's because they absorb it. So having a boundary, yeah, important. I didn't know that when psychic mediumship first came into my awareness. I was like absorbing all of the things. Right. And especially being a therapist or like myself as a massage therapist.

I mean, I was taking their physical pains and I thought it was crazy. I'm like, you know, this lady comes in with very specific foot pain, left second toe or something. And I go home and I have that pain. I'm like, I'm crazy. I know. But you're not. Oh my, Shanna, I have a story about this. Oh my God.

For all those empaths out there, this is real. We were going on a camping trip. This is last year or maybe a couple of years ago, whatever. We were on a camping trip and we were going through an altitude change and my dog starts crying. And I didn't understand why he was crying. Well, I started feeling a pain in my lower left jaw. And I went, oh my God, he has tooth pain because the change in altitude makes that worse. So I'm like, he has tooth pain. And I gave him, he already was taking pain meds for arthritis. So I gave him a little extra.

And then I took him to the vet when we got home. And I said, I think he has tooth pain in his lower left jaw. And sure enough, freaking had a tooth decay thing happening. Yeah, in his lower left jaw. But I felt that pain. I literally felt it. It is real. That happens.

Insane. And you know what? Another thing that you and I have in common is that we both have children on the spectrum. And I think with them, I've always said this, that they're like extreme empaths. I mean, think about their issues are all around senses. Some kids have to wear earphones or whatever to cover their ears. My son, they would have to dim the light for him,

sound, too many people. He wouldn't be able to, that was one of the things he couldn't go to, like the assemblies and stuff like that, pep rallies, forget it. He couldn't do stuff like that. Too much energy. They're so highly sensitive.

They're so highly sensitive. My son, absolutely. I'll never forget. We got him or my husband picked up these headphones for him that are like for hunters, you know, people who go hunting for the gunshots, right? So he picked up, he put those on. I play the drums and I bought him a little drum set to play with because he loves to like bang on things. And he had those on.

He's like, I can play my drums now. And he goes to like bang on the, I was like, oh, buddy. Poor kiddo. He was so excited to be able to do that. And there have been other empathic, sensitive things with him. Brief story. So some kiddos on the spectrum need to stim a lot and stimulate themselves in order to feel calmer is one of his stimming things. So at night he rubs my back and pats it in order to fall asleep. So one night he was doing that and he randomly says, mom, did you know that there's a baby inside growing and dying? You're kidding. I was like, yeah. And and i a that that wasn't possible

okay so i i was confused i said really buddy and now someone who works with empaths and highly sensitive people i know not to say oh that's interesting okay i know to say oh buddy cool tell me more and so he started telling me that there's a baby growing and somebody is going to come and take it away. And I knew that this wasn't me. I knew that I wasn't pregnant because it wasn't possible. But what I did know is that I, every time that before I see a client, I begin at least a day or two in advance, I begin receiving their energy. And sometimes their spirit babies will come and hang out before I see them. He was picking up on my client for the next day because she was telling me about this miscarriage that she had.

It was exactly what he said. I'm like, holy crap. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. I feel like because they have such little ego, they're closer to source, right? I mean, here we're trying,

my older kids say all the time, I wish I was more like Ethan, because he doesn't care about how his hair looks, how many friends he has, what kind of car, you know, his mom drives anyways, because he won't drive. But you know, I mean, he doesn't worry about many of the things that take us away from going inside. He's inside. So the system tries to pull these kids out of their inner world into this chaos. And we're trying to go inward. It's so funny to me. I know. An oxy-moron.

I know. It sure is. When you are around someone who is like our children, they change our lives. I mean, we are so blessed because of them. People want to fix them or change them. I'm like, no, you know what? My children, myself, we are all far more compassionate people because we've been blessed with them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like to observe what he's observing

because it's like seeing things through fresh eyes. It's always fresh. Always. He just has this joy about him and non-judgment except with his brother. He tries to get his brother's attention so bad he wants to be he yeah he tries to get his attention really how close are they in eight owen my oldest is 13 and bryce is 11 bryce is 11 so they're pretty close but like so, so that's chronological, but energetically and developmentally, Owen's more like in his thirties and Bryce is more like six, you know? So there's a, there's a span there, but you're right. There's just something, it creates pause. It's like when you're in that place with folks like our kiddos, it just creates pause. It's like when you're in that place with folks like our kiddos, it just creates pause.

Like what really, like who cares that I don't know, or I feel overwhelmed with meal planning or I feel overwhelmed with work. Just who cares? You just get into that mind frame where you don't sweat the small stuff because it's irrelevant now.han was my third child so it was like my first one was super duper smart i mean dude was like reading at like three i'm only chapter nice i mean and then lindsey came like two years later and she just wanted to catch up with him but she does have some things you know she's she's got adhd maybe it's hereditary because i'm i'm a little bit of that and then i have ethan and he comes into the world and you know i knew because he was my third child that there was and there was something from the very beginning that i knew you know i i knew something was wrong even as an infant but i would never take away anyone else's experiences if they feel like it was vaccinations or environmental or whatever it is, because nobody really knows yet. And the spectrum is so far and wide, but there are a lot of things

about them that are very similar. But did you know one in 22 kids right now are on the spectrum. That's crazy. And my kids school, they tested for lead in the elementary school first, and they had found that 18 different locations of faucets had lead, high levels of lead. And that was concerning. Yes. You know, there are so many things in our food. Wow. You know, in our clothes, air, in the water, everywhere that we have against us that may be causing some of this neurodivergency. Or also, we were talking earlier, sterilization. Mm-hmm. Now, that's my area. That's fertility stuff. So we're talking earlier sterilization.

Now that's my area. That's fertility stuff. I just saw a statistic, a new statistic. This is just for the States. It used to be that one in eight couples struggled with, and that's just couples, not single people. One in eight couples struggled with trying to conceive. And now it's one in six. It's prevalent. It's prevalent it's prevalent yeah and there and people are having children older now i mean i had my kids in my early early 20s

that was normal you know nowadays these older kids gen z's like yeah we're not having it we're gonna do us first which they don't even quite know what to do because sometimes what they are good at doesn't fit into the checkboxes on the college application. Right, right, right, right. Yeah, I was 30 before we began trying to conceive and I got pregnant right away and then miscarried. And from then on, it was a six and a half year struggle to try to have a baby and $45,000 later with IVF and all that crap and no baby. So we ended up, I actually was like totally overjoyed to move into living without children. I was completely happy with that because there is that social imperative, social and biological imperative, thou shalt have children, where I was like, no, I don't have to do anything. Tell me that I have to or tell me that I can't.

I'm like, I'll show you. That's just my personality. But my ex-husband at the time wanted to be a dad. And I was so zenned out. I was like, cool, let's do it. So we ended up adopting. So we knew in advance that our second kiddo had medical struggles. He wasn't diagnosed yet, but he wasn't even diagnosed with his main concern, which is our main condition, which is epilepsy. And so, yeah, we knew that there were some medical struggles, but later he was diagnosed on the spectrum and it's, it just explains so much with his high sensitivity and his joy and his innocence and his welcoming presence. He's just, come in, come in. I don't care if you've murdered 12 people. Come in.

When you work with people who are trying to get pregnant and are struggling and going through that very long, very stressful and expensive. And there's so much highs and lows. And I have a friend, good friend of mine, client, and his wife are going through this. And I've tried to help them and they've gotten pregnant, lost a baby. You know, it's been so long. And I've asked them too, them too, have you considered adoption? Because there are so many children out there that need good homes, which is also a risk though. There's also the risk of putting your heart into it in hopes and also not being able to go home with a baby.

It's very hard. It is very hard. Well, I think there's nothing wrong with wanting to have a biological child at all. Nothing wrong with wanting to have a pregnancy. And some people don't have a biological child, but they're able to have a pregnancy. So they'll use donor gametes, donor eggs, or donor sperm. And adoption is a difficult thing too, right? So somebody, people have asked me, what was it like moving into adoption? Did it actually feel like, okay, cool. I'm on the road now. And I'm like, nope, it was square one. It was square one, very stressful, very overwhelming, lots of money, lots of paperwork, lots of people analyzing who you are as a human, because there's no license to get

pregnant and have a kiddo, but you better believe you have your P's and Q's in order to adopt. So it's hard. It's hard. In a similar way as, oh, just go do IVF and have twins, you'll be done, is not feasible. It's not like within the realm of like reality. It's very difficult process. It's also very difficult to say, oh, just adopt. God, there's lots of kids that need homes because there's so much involved in it. It's overwhelming and difficult. Yeah. It's just hard all around on a couple, on the individual. So when I work with people, it depends on how I'm working with them, whether it's psychotherapy or readings. Infertility, that's all about that. All the things that I came to learn about moving through the fertility process with greater ease. And there's a lot of metaphysical stuff in there and meditations and stuff, not spirit baby stuff,

because that wasn't until later, but that's all in there. Spirit baby stuff, similar to that reading that I'm not reading, that first time when babies came through to me, people will get curious about answers and what they have to do on a spiritual level in order to bring babies earthside. Yeah. Most people get really, what do I have to do? What do I have to eat? How do I have to exercise? You know, they get very physical about things. But truly, things start in the energy world.

You know, this is a Reiki practitioner, right? It starts with energy. So I feel, I mean, I suppose you can affect energy through your physical means too, but usually there's a very beautiful spiritual adjustment that can be done or energetic adjustment in order to support pregnancy. What did you say? Like one in how many were struggling? The statistic has changed from one in eight. This is just in the US from one in eight to one in six couples. Yeah. It's not including single people who are trying to conceive, which is-

I actually have a friend who saved her eggs and she wasn't married so she went ahead and and did it and she's super happy and i was so happy for her but you know this explains the population decline then i watched this interview i think it was with elon musk and he was on this guy's podcast it was a bunch was a panel of men, young men, like probably like Gen Z or millennials. And he even asked, he asked them, so they said something about, you know, overpopulated and he goes, this world isn't overpopulated. And he said, how many of your friends, how many of you guys are married and have children? And they're like, no, not me, nobody. And well, how many of your friends are? And they're like, no, no, none of them. Well, maybe like one.

I mean, like, no. And so you wonder with all the things that, I mean, cancer, infertility, neurodivergency, God knows what else is going to start happening. We're going to start like growing a third boob or something. Right, right, right. I mean, the hormones, that's one thing. My friend Mandy, she went to the doctor the other day and it was an older doctor. And he said, one thing I've been seeing that I've never seen before, but over the past few years, younger teens and younger adults are having the kind of hormonal issues that only women of your age have.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so then you wonder why there's so much gender stuff happening with the younger kids. I don't know if that's, but I would think that, yes, it did have a play in it. I mean, I think it's a combination. This is all theoretical. It's all theoretical at this point because people need science and science. But as an intuitive person like you are and like I am, we can read between the lines. The foods that we consume, the places where we live, the pollution.

And then on the other end, people dying, right? Just like normal aging, but also genocide, all this crime. Oh my God, all this suicide. Suicides. I mean, did you hear the other day an 11-year-old boy was bullied, killed himself. No, I did not hear that. I don't watch the news. That's why. I don't watch the news either. It showed up on YouTube, but I tell you what, it was heartbreaking. I just feel like right now there's so much going on and the children cannot be forgotten and i mean the

fact that we right now there are so many children without parents because there's a war going on and these innocent children are affected because of this conflict that is not for the greater good of the world. You know, Jimmy Carter had said, you will not find peace by killing each other's children. The energy, it's hard right now. The energy is rough, especially with these goddamn solar flares. Good Lord. No kidding. No kidding.

There's so much. And there's that additional thing if you really want to get woo-woo where apparently we are moving from 3D to 5D existence and that's creating this edginess. Why do I feel nauseous all the time? Why do I have headaches? Why do I have... Yeah, that's a thing too i know so anyone when covid first happened i was one of those people who right away i was like oh they're just trying to depopulate the world this has totally got to be some sort of conspiracy you know i did i this that was my first thought you know i mean other countries are known to limiting how many children you can have and throwing away right you know certain genders and so this is was my

thought this is their you know plan to save the planet maybe in some way by killing humans. Good old Thanos. If you're a Marvel fan. I'm a nerdy Marvel fan. Sorry. My son is such a Marvel fan. Good lord. Well, he and I could have some conversations. Oh, he wanted to do a Marvel podcast. Yeah.

Heck yeah. Score. I'd be so down for that but you know it does make me wonder if there are power and like i i think this is very woo-woo to say but are there powers that are trying to suppress the population or these future generations who I see are so very special? Are they trying to keep those wave of special children or like the pink star lights, like Lindsay? She lives here in Colorado, by the way. I know. I have to get out there to see you too. Come visit with us. But, you know, is there something that's trying to stop those special children from coming into the, into this world during this time?

I mean, the classic good, good meets evil story, right? Like it's speculation, but man, I don't, I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. Well, what Lindsay says about the pink starlights, and for folks who want to learn more about that, Lindsay Eastburn at Eastburn Hypnotherapy, I think is her website. I interviewed her a lot on my podcast too, and did an Instagram live with her. She and I are supposed to be in cahoots around pink star lights in some way. I'm not sure yet how, but she's talking about how the world, the planet needs more compassion, more love, more high vibration in order for these pink star lights to come. Now, interestingly, she said, made a good point. Because of the news and things like this, when people see these negative things happening,

genocide wars, et cetera, it actually creates more compassion and more love and more of that high vibration from some people. And so that is creating more space for these pink star lights to come in. Because think about it. Like during my day, I mean,

I would have, I wouldn't be able to know about all the things that we know about what's happening, what's going on across the world. You have to read that in a newspaper or wait till the five o'clock news. We wouldn't be able to just find out everything and see everything like that. And even worse, 100 years ago, I mean, they would be flueless about that. So I think that it has created a very sensitive and empathetic, you know, Gen Z. And this younger Gen Alpha even, I'm sure your children, and I know my youngest who is 12. She's 12 now. Oh, because you guys have the same birthday, don't you?

We do. That's right. That's right. I forgot about that. Yes. So cool. Yeah. Oh,

so she's a drag and you're a dragon month. Am I? Yeah. What year were you born in? 75. Oh, okay. I was going to say,

cause I'm 76 and I'm a dragon year. Oh, I think I'm a rabbit. I'm a rabbit. Yeah, that's right. Because Jamie's 75 and he's a rabbit. But Kenzie's a dragon dragon. Her year and her month.

I know. This is the year of the dragon. It is the year of a dragon. Yes. It's the year of opportunity. I'm really hoping so. If it's a year of opportunity for me, it is, well, I can't say that because ethereal TV, that's a pretty cool opportunity, but there's

some ass backwards stuff happening. There's stuff that I'm like, come on, dude. Let's get going on this. And so it's a combination and And it's, boom, it's powerful. It's not small things. It's like, boom, nothing small about nothing. Here's this big opportunity. Here's this big crap thing. Right. And here's this big solar storm.

We're not just going to have a little one. We're going to have a freaking full-blown one. We're going to knock you off your feet. Right? Did you get to see them? We tried. We tried, but we couldn't see them? We're going to knock you off your feet. Right? Did you get to see them? We tried. We tried, but we couldn't see them from my neighborhood. Oh, man.

I know. But you know, I've been following the solar storms for years. And the reason why is because, so I've always been a moon person. And I noticed, I mean, ever since I was very little. And my dad and I had a thing about the moon because he knew I loved it too. So he'd always tell me when anything cool was happening with the moon. But like I can tell if it's a new moon, I know if it's a full moon, I know I don't have to even see, I just feel it. But I started to feel the sun and this started probably, I'd say maybe like 2021. And so I didn't know I was feeling it at first, but I started to sense something, something's going on. And so it was my cousin in Canada,

I think that helped me kind of figure it out. And then I started to notice, because I would look up to see what was going on with the sun, there'd be like a super storm and no one's talking about it. They don't talk about this stuff on regular forecast, you know, five weather. Nope. So I started to follow suspicious observers, Ben, who is actually here in Colorado too. And I've been following him for years and I'm physically affected. So when we're talking about being an empath and of course, of course we are, I mean, we're water. Look at how the world is so affected by this polar storm, all this radiation. We're like in a microwave, you know, worse and people who are very sensitive are going to be so affected. Yes. You know,

what does this also do to fertility and to our health? Good point. Good point. What do you feel? I'm curious what you feel with. Oh my God. Okay. So I almost feel like my entire nervous system was vibrating.

Like everything, like when your foot falls asleep, like my whole body felt that way for days. I felt so much, I felt anxious, almost like an anxiety. And in my friend Ellen has suggested, maybe you need to align your energy with the sun. Maybe you're rejecting it and you need to like try to align with it. So I did go sit with the sunset. I was trying, but like, I really just had a hard time with the energy physically. Very, I mean, I was experiencing joint pain, had headaches for like two days. There was, I felt like being pressured. Oh my God. It wasn't just, I felt like my entire body was like one of those pressure cookers or

something. I mean, I felt. Oh my God. I've been feeling that. I wonder if that's the same thing. I thought it was allergies. No, they actually have a name for it. They actually have a name for it.

Like a scientific term for it. actually have a name for it like a scientific term for it i can't think of the name but yes it's an actual you know what's been helping me this is kind of weird but it's water uh cold soaking water cold soaking helps i i went and got some epsom salts and i have just been in the water almost every single night. It causes high blood pressure, any kind of cardiac issues, you know, are going to really be something. I mean, and for you and I who are super excited to be, you know, putting out on this ethereal network, we just hope that we'll have a connection to be able to do this because hopefully not, but it's a good chance, you know, that the grid could go down. You know, it has before.

And so here's the thing. It's because the magnetic field around the earth is thinning because of us. We didn't take care of mother. We didn't care for her like we should have. So are these the lesson that we have to learn? And how many times has this happened before? So these new generations that are coming in, you know, they're a little environmentalist. They care about- That's the pink star lights. Like, yep, that's their job. That's their work. And they're feeling the urgency of it. This planet is dying.

Like, it's not okay. And that's their role is to come here and raise this vibration so that we can get more conscientious, so that we can- You know, people get made fun of when they go off grid and they live off the land. And I'm like, Oh my God, congratulations. Yes, yes, yes, yes. So that's the beauty of them being able to see the pain of the world of what's happening. He didn't, I was eating chicken nuggets out of a styrofoam box, just happy as hell. That's right. We had our monthly happy meal. It was like, woohoo.

Back when I was a kid. Yeah. I mean, my kids are teaching me about the environment and what I should do, what I shouldn't do. They're protecting people like our sons who make get bullied. So they are very special. And so we need to raise the planet's vibration so that we can bring in more people like them. We do. We do. I think that's on the horizon. I tend to err on the side of hope. So there's me. Yay. Well, then everybody needs to go and watch your new show on Ethereal Network. Where can they find you? Yeah. Best place to go is my website, drmariarothenberger.com. And Rothenberger

is like hamburger, B-U-R-G-E-R. I am not a vegetarian, but ethically sourced protein. Oh, that's good. That's good. Well, don't watch the movie Christ's Pharisee because then you might become one. Oh, you know what? I watched food Inc. And that was enough for me to feel like I needed to be vegan. However, my body responds better when I eat animal protein. So I'd make it sure it's ethically sourced. I need that B12 because if I don't have that B12, I can't remember anything. Yeah, fun facts about our nutrition.

Right. Yeah, drmariarothenberger.com. People can also find me at thereluctantmedium.us, but Dr. Maria Rothenberger is like the main place. I'm on Instagram and Facebook, really nothing else. Oh, people can also join my Mighty Networks community. That's free, actually. The Miracles Happen community, lots of conversations about spirit baby stuff and mediumship and all that stuff. And I have a monthly free Q&A too on Fridays, first Friday of every month. Free because why not?

What else is free in the world? No, yeah, no. Thank you so much for spending this hour with me. I love you so much. Likewise, Jenna. So happy to be here. All right, well, we'll see you soon. Yep, take care.

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