Sense of Soul - Finding Oneness in the Great Silence

Episode Date: October 13, 2023

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Hello, my soul-seeking friends. It's Shanna. Thank you so much for listening to Sense of Soul podcast. Enlightening conversations with like-minded souls from around the world, sharing their journey of finding their light within, turning pain into purpose, and awakening to their true sense of soul. If you like what you hear, show me some love and rate, like, and subscribe. And consider becoming a Sense of Soul Patreon member, where you will get ad-free episodes, monthly circles, and much more. Now go grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. It's time to awaken. Today on Sense of Soul, we have the beautiful soul, Kareem. She helps seekers to find their true selves and become free.

And she does this with a lot of love, patience, clarity, and humor. She is the founder of the Kareem Foundation, where she hosts silent retreats, satsangs, which are moments of reflection and connection to come home to yourself and give nourishment to your soul. She's joining us to tell us all about her passion that she has to awaken one soul to source and all about her beautiful retreats that she hosts currently in Spain. So please welcome Karim. Hello. I love your scarf. Thank you. It's beautiful. I thought this was a bit too much. I love it. It makes me want to go get a scarf on. Let's both have a scarf on. I appreciate you coming on to share your story and your beautiful foundations that you've created. Well, thank you.

And where do you join me from? I'm joining you at the moment from Spain, but I'm from the Netherlands myself, but I live in Spain. Oh, that's so lovely. Do you like it there? Yes, very much. Yes. Where are you at the moment i'm in colorado is it nice over there yeah we have the rocky mountains colorado is that very warm humid so we have a lot of sun but we have all four seasons but sometimes we have all four seasons in one day that's a bit like spain then oh there you go yeah you've been here or you've never been you know but there's something in me that always desires and loves to hear about traveling around the world but yet in this life i mean i have four children from two different generations

and i've been in the same area of colorado for all of their lives and whenever we travel i like to go back home to louisiana from new orleans okay wow new orleans that is the town of the music or not yes jazz and so there's not a lot of traveling around the world for me for the longest time I felt that I was being cheated or something or I was missing out you know and sometimes I still do because I do want to see other places but I've accepted that I'm a rooted tree that some of us are deeply rooted and really truly it is me I provide a solid foundation for my friends my community for my children and I live vicariously through my friends who are always moving and always traveling but they know where I am always yeah well you don't need to go anywhere really to find

the sources within I mean it's all very nice this is when people come over here to be in this environment but it's just an environment so you can I can also live in a in a very busy town and be in silence there it doesn't matter it doesn't matter but i love this i like this i'm near to people i'm near to the village i love being around people but i love the quietness of nature so i have the perfect life it's the source of the soul you know you feel where you're home and you invite all your your guests as a prince or a princess or a king or a queen and they feel so welcome you know because this place it represents a part of me how I am my backyard my sanctuary you know my trees my birds I'm familiar even with the grasshoppers right well you know what i would love to know

a little bit about your journey how you got to where you are yeah you are obviously a creatrix i want to know how you got there that's a long story and I have to make it short because what I really love is that we're all waking up, that we're all connected, feeling the connection, feeling the source, feeling what you call awareness or God or love. That's the most important thing to me. But there's a story to me as well. But I like to keep that short not because i want to keep it short but most people like to talk about a lot about themselves and i just want to go to the source of it all if you wake up to yourself it always is a journey inside It's a solitude and a journey you do on your own. You know, it's not something you do in a group.

We're all connected first in a group and we mingle and we're looking to them and we look at that and we're looking for a bit of safety. We project a bit of fear on the other one and they take care of us. We like that. But this source goes deeper. You know, it's like you've got a father and a mother or whatever and what I felt as a child was that I couldn't connect I didn't felt the connection it's very hard to say that because I was a bit on my own and trying to get the love from your mother or later on your partner. That's the way it goes. And it is all a learning process, as you know, of course. But the true journey, I think it was all my life,

I've been drawn to waking up to awareness, to consciousness. Not awareness, I didn't know awareness. I didn't know consciousness, consciousness, consciousness, consciousness. And you do that. But it was always a moving on in my life. You know, it was a part of my life when I was very drawn to the paranormal. So I was drawn to people who were always into the spirits and into the ghosts because they were very real to me.

And they were very normal, these people to me. They call them paranormal, but I thought they were very normal. But it was a part of my life it was it was again not the source it was people sharing things with each other and therapeutically talking to each other and you're still looking to others that's sort of also a learning process then there was all this education with emotional body work and tantra. You go through all these things in your life. You need to taste before you go to the real thing. And what is the real thing is that you have to find out really, truly through all these things who you really are.

And that consciousness grew in me i got conscious of things that you know playing with tarot cards it was not doing it you know it wasn't touching my heart or anything like that you know you start to believe things but when i was very young i I was myself giving to people. But it was so pure, but I couldn't handle the world. So I think now, I see now in myself that it was all needed. These lessons I hand in my life. You know, besides that, you have a different path, like a family, your husband, your parents.

You know, you got that. That's a sort of different road so there was like besides my family parents children the family life working life i had a sort of path next to that like awareness life anything to do with awareness like meditation anything i had this search life in myself where i was always busy searching seeking seeking continuously seeking yes yes i just came out of that yes i came out of that i just came out of that i I'm just. Stop doing that. Yeah. I didn't have a master or anything like that. I found it out myself and I started my own practice and it was extremely busy with man group, female group, mixed group, children. And there was a part of my life that I saw that this was also passing on.

This was not really me although people were very happy with me and content there was in me not that real true self so I had to give this up and this was a big part of me I had to give up that was really the sensation of waking up when I gave everything up inside me. The business I had, the husband, the family, and I sat nearly for two weeks a bit under a sort of farm. And I was in the middle of the night. It was raining and I was on my own there meditating. I thought, yeah, I'm not myself. This is not truly me. This is not not I have to give this all up this thing that I really enjoyed but it wasn't the source it went deeper yeah

it's a little bit how it went you know I think a lot of people go through that in this journey a lot of people are going through that right now. It's uncomfortable when you do wake up. Holy cow, what the hell am I doing? Wait a minute. You know, and I think that, well, it definitely, I woke up and said, who am I? This is not who I'm supposed to be. And had to shed that part of me and i remember feeling naked almost like i i was so

exposed and raw in that moment and it was scary i needed to shed it all all of the the beliefs and i had to grieve it too. It happens. It has to rip you apart, really. It has to break your heart. It has to rip you apart. Something's shedding. A skin is shedding of you. And the pain, it is all part of the maya, the substance of the mind that is really identified with all these things.

What you even don't know about i mean i have seen things i've not even thought about or even realized that they were there and they are there and you have to eat it up i've eaten it all up and people always asking me what do you mean with eating it up all the thoughts i have to cut eat them up and pull them out you have to eat it up nothing of you will remain the real you will remain and it is god who will prevail awareness who will prevail it's no matter what if you don't prefer god you know what i mean you have to come to the source of it it's not the word that counts it's the source you. You have to come to that place inside yourself. And there's so many people claiming this.

You can't claim this. There's nothing to be claimed. There is nothing. It's like a blank canvas. That's who you are. And God is giving the colors. God's giving the paint on the palette. And he's putting the colors on your canvas.

And that's it it's the coming together of something very beautiful everything appears as you know but you have to know nobody experienced that it is appearing it is appearing in their minds but how do we come to the place when we are moving from the mind to the heart to god to awareness and we need some consciousness for this we need to awareness doesn't need consciousness awareness is always here god's always here god is love god is truth it's just the words don't mention the word More important is the energy you feel. What happens to you in interaction with us together that is making yourself warm or happy, and you can't understand it, but it happens, you know?

Your energy and your voice, it's beyond words right now what I'm experiencing. I'm almost emotional. It is beyond the words. I mean, my whole body's tingling. I knew, you know, because I'd listened to your voice before we got on because I watched you on YouTube. And the minute I heard your voice, immediately, these little hairs in my ears stood up to receive and you had my full awareness what is this this gift that you hold you always it's that you make space for it don't you oh it's this tremendous space in me it's's an abundance of space and humour and clarity and love and unity that's open.

There's so much space, so much tremendous space to be in with you, be one with you. There is no to us, me to you is no two there is no no experience of two i i feel that i mean i don't even feel like i'm in my house right now i feel like i'm with you that's it you are with me i'm with you yes that's it it's you it's one the world everything's one yes yeah over the past year have received the importance of vibration and that's what this is it's not about the words it's not about the word god it's not even about what you're saying the words you know and actually i have had an experience before where someone could barely speak english and yet there was no language barrier between her and i no no

because it wasn't about you know language yeah we speak one language If we cross that bridge, we meet each other. And how do we come to this place? Because this is the most important thing, because everything is rationalized. Of course, we first understand in the mind. Because I'm speaking to you now, there must be something in the mind. I have to, otherwise I would be here. I can't speak. I need my mind to speak you follow

it because nobody thinks about this but it's true i am i can you can be say oh i'm awake and i'm not talking i'm awake um i'm not speaking of of a way awakening there's nothing of an eye here that is it's just this this is me this is it this is it there's nothing to do the thing is that we we're so quickly onto the words we lose ourselves so quickly in words because we're attached to not the words, but the meaning of the words. So the form we're getting. So the way I speak to you now is when I'm opening my eyes, there is the source, of course, God or love or that's it. But when I'm opening my eyes, I see the world, the differences, but there is no difference. There are things you can't talk about is there's the

source what is there but i perceive it with my mind can you follow that yes but i'm not the mind we all have to be the boss of our mind you know we're the owners we're on our own we're not with two of us we're here sitting here just with ourselves so everything that all the power is within and all the destruction is within we need to get to know them because when we do know what is true and what is false we have a mastery in ourselves you know we we can master something in ourselves without ego because if we truly know we are no ego because everything we know there is no thought needed because if you brush your teeth i always call this as an example nobody thinks about brushing the teeth anymore but once upon a time

it was very necessary that you thought about it oh god i've got to brush my teeth but now it's like and you don't think about it anymore it's just a thing you do it's the same with this if we master everything in ourselves we know so little about ourselves People are so worried about this and about that. And they don't even know that it's all false. It's all not real. But they think it's real because what is mind? Mind is capable. It's the presence of presence we had from the spirit.

And we have to be managers of this incredible tool we have in our head it's capable of imaginary it but it says it's got a belief system it's got a memory it has so many things and if we're attached to all these things because we've learned the way we proceeded the way we it was taught to us, then we're lost. We think we're somebody. If we think we are somebody and we still stay in that corner and because I use words now, if words can make everything but it can break everything so quickly, it's like a breath, you know. It's like with one breath too much, we pass away. And I will say with the word, one word too much, you can make a war.

And you can make peace, but you can also make war. So words can be very powerful, but they have no worth at all. They have no value. Yeah. You have to get acquainted with that words are your guideline what is a guideline so if you are annoyed with the words let's say your your husband or your girlfriend or whatever is saying you should do this so because you know how it goes in daily life. It's not always perfect. How can you be your own self amongst the most difficult people? That is a challenge.

That's what I did in my life. I knew I had to be with the most annoying people. Yeah, because you can always put the loving people, but something inside of me was I had to be with the most difficult people and sit and be there true to yourself because what is true to yourself who knows that really because if we say what is true to ourself it's like a mind that speaks to us what is but the mind is never true it's always saying yes and no good and bad black and white mind is never true. It's always saying yes and no, good and bad, black and white. Mind is always two.

Never one count. The mind is there, needed to speak with it. It's what's needed. Otherwise, I couldn't express myself and you couldn't listen. So how can we feel vibrations in our body in our heart when we feel something that is making us happy or making us emotional or something we don't do and still and it happens so we don't have to think about it it's like what is it when we're happy? Is it a feeling? Is it a thought? Where does it come from?

I can't think about it. Where does it come from? What is that source? What is it? Of course, this question challenged the mind. You will think. Everybody starts to think, yeah, where does it come from? Where does this happiness come from? Either thought means silence.

The great silence. I saw that on your Facebook. Oh, yeah. We're so busy. Some people even are afraid of silence. Oh, yes. Because people put all these little tags on silence and they think, for instance, I have guests now and they hated they're

here now for three weeks and they came and they hated the silence and they hug me now and say oh i'm so happy i said in three weeks oh that's good it's even slow i say well with humor and so light you will get acquainted very quickly with the loving side of yourself well with having four children and hardly having very little moments alone i crave silence i know because we were related because i had a blended family okay So we had all of a sudden six children. So, you know, in my time, I had a practice, a very busy practice. I had six children, two disabled children. Yes, you have the love.

So God knows that. Love knows that. But it's not always simple. So when you get time for the real true self but i found out that god had do you mind if i say god or should i say spirit or whatever you want yeah yeah so it's not religion god i meant spirit i mean love so you have enough love. you know he has a ton of wisdom to share and is offering Sense of Soul listeners a special discount to take a deep and personalized dive into Kabbalah and the unfolding of your own personal journey. If you're interested, go to matthewp-K.com backslash Sons of Soul to learn more and sign up.

Now back to our amazing guest. You have very busy in your life with four children, enormously, tremendously busy. I did it like this. I had this busy life. I had this little, do you call it an altar? Yeah, okay. And it was for myself. Like at first I was a bit embarrassed to do this.

I got, you know, years ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But what was very important that there was still two. So family-wise, there was the mother and there was that person who wants to get aware you follow this do you do you recognize what we recognize that it's not one yet it's like right yeah i am tired of it yeah yes yes yes it's like you're using it to get quiet or something or you use it for your own relaxation or yeah and this will change this will get to the to the source you will get to the source one day you will get there i know how it feels to be with your children and that's a different

totally different environment you in them you're busy they're asking questions to do this and you're not really yourself you're in this role play you don't even realize it most of the time but when you get one the altar mixes inside of you spirituality becomes you so that me is out of it and the real you is there the most beautiful thing for me with my children was that they're not mine that's easy to say but you have to come to the source of this they're the spirit that they're just as much the spirit as we have their own journey we're just the bridge mothers are the bridge from heaven to earth because we gave birth to them but they're not our property i feel a tremendous love inside of the heart for them the most beautiful thing is in this relationship with your children it is an everlasting love it's a very

pure love in fact i feel like my youngest one oldest daughter, and I always say we think that she was once our mother because she mothers us, my youngest. And she'll tell me, no child is going to listen to your podcast because you use bad words. It's not appropriate. But I have kids from two different generations you know i have three adults and one 11 year old so 26 24 uh how old are you i'm 47 no you're fine no you're 47 i yeah i'm letting my hair go gray i'm embracing my crown you don't look so old thank you you look very young you don't and i feel young so yeah but that's good you you look young as well so what you feel you express yeah and you know what there's been times though in my life when i was really busy i wasn't taking care of myself

and i looked back at myself and i looked older and i felt older yeah of course and i was a pain and i didn't have a practice yeah your physical body reacts gives expression of how you feel inside. Yeah, I almost feel like, you know, the more light that you let in, the more you shine. Yeah. Children, I said last week to a child, I said, well, I am 32 and I will stay there. And he said, yeah, yeah, you will, you will stay there. And I said, do you really think I'm 32? And he said, yeah, yeah, you will, you will stay there. And I said,

do you really think I'm 32? And he said, yeah. Oh my goodness. You know, as we're evolving souls, I believe there's all these different layers of things that we're working on in this life. And I feel like that's kind of, I look at you and I'm listening to you. And that's kind of like what I was saying earlier, where I know that in this life right now, anyways, I am where I'm supposed to be, but I would love to be, you know, where you are right now. That would be amazing. But I'm still in feel this like the triple goddess right i'm in the mother phase you know i haven't quite moved into the crone but i'm showing symptoms

of the crone you can correct me if i'm wrong but it's a sort of it's like you feel like you're there now in the solid and that you feel good there. You feel like a solid tree. But still, I feel an attraction. Is that true? Yeah. I mean, it absolutely is. For sure.

It's like an acceptance. Yes. An acceptance for, you know, where I'm at. I'm not upset about it. In fact, I love where I'm at. I'm not upset about it. In fact, I love where I'm at. You know, but of course, you know, one day I would love to, you know, just be in the silence. And everyone just leave me the frick alone. You don't bother with other people. Don't worry.

No, but I know I'll get there. And then, you know, I'll probably miss it even. You know what I mean? i can say am i allowed to say that that i can sense your call no absolutely okay yeah i appreciate that but i i really have worked hard on the non-attachment thing and i do know that my children have their own journey and i allow them to, and I allowed them to lead me. I didn't at first, you know, my older children didn't get this version. They got cheated from this version, but it's still our learning as we go, you know, from me. So it's not all bad, but the difference, you know, with my older kids and my youngest, you know, she tells me and shows me what she, you know, what she likes and

desires instead of me saying, look at this, you should be this, you should do this, you know, you should be this. Because there's a lot of undoing of that with my older kids. Well, yeah, in that way, we still have in common because i have the same story with old children and smaller children and the smaller had the best of me and the oldest had the worst no no no they have the best of me now the oldest one is living with me and learning, doing this. Yes. Very special. Yes, it's a special relationship. Well, there's no mother anymore.

The role play of mother. I am your mother, but that is beyond this. So if you want to be testing the ego mind, well, you need to, because the ego, you shouldn't be afraid of your ego. So you get the test here. I love you as a mom. I love you to the moon and back. But you have to find your own source.

And now I have the sun on my chin. The sun is following you. The sun is following me. I know. You are my sunshine. Shine, my only sun. Yes, it is. my mom used to sing that to me yeah that's a lovely song I have a very strong and special connection with my daughters too and you know women in particularly have very strong intuition and wisdom that really has been hidden for generations but there's something rising within women and i can see it in my daughters and i'm like yes that creatrix within us to create the world that we want to see,

to reclaim the power from the ego. Yeah. You mean this next generation? Yeah. They are the next generation. Yes, we move on. You see, a couple of hundred years ago we were completely different we were chopping each other's head off so as we as we move on in a collasial pace we

where we see that we evolve into these into our true selves and that's healthy there's more hard energy at this particular time on this planet Earth than there has ever been before. Most of this energy was always kept shut between doors in monasteries or in whatever, in holy temples. But because of this, your source, the podcast, Instagram, is this now basically a bit on the street as we say as we speak but there's also between all the the wannabes and the yeah hello the the yeah the one who claims things and say

i'm this i'm that yeah you see the truth there are here and there some sprouts who are true to the source they've been through the source, you sense the source through their skin, through their voice or whatever. Yeah. And you see that with our children. These children, why do we have, I don't know how it is in America, but we had over here lots of children with autism, in the autism spectrum, all these behavior problems.

And I always say there's no problem with a child you all have to start listening with your heart these children are messengers these are god's messengers saying yeah there's too much too less of this too much that we're out of focus we're out of balance you know so we send a lot of children that way who can't communicate with the mind who get very frustrated up there and you see if parents don't understand this communication they see that the children are the problem but actually yeah it's usually but i don't want to put a finger to something. I totally agree with you. You know, they're sensitive. They're closest to source. They have less ego.

Yes, very easy to talk to. I mean, just, you know, having a sibling I know for my children, they, you know, they're more compassionate, more empathetic. He's humbled us. And he could care less, you know, who you are, how cool you are, what you're wearing, you know, what college you go to. He just wants authenticity. Exactly.

I know. All he requires. This will turn around if we are getting more conscious, the elder ones, and we get more with ourselves. We get connected with the source. We get connected with the source. We get connected with our children. We get connected with the people around us, and we start to learn from within. It's like my partner said one time with my oldest son.

He said, you have this connection with him. He understands you. And I said, of course. And it's so simple with you too can you teach me this i said of course if you really want to listen you know if you're open to listening and he did yeah he did he treated his ego like this you know and then yeah he got to know and it's like you said you you don't need words. You don't need them. It's a guideline.

Words can help to see if there's some ego still. I can put some words here and there and somebody reacts more and then you can see there's still an ego there. But people who have less and less egos have no problem anymore with whatever I challenge them to, because the words don't hit them anymore. And I can, you know, my oldest kids will say, like, I wish I was more like him. He's not trying to do the most and have the most.

There's a freedom within that. And I think that a lot of the things that I'm trying to shed, he has a hard time, you know, to master. So it's just, yeah, it's a gift for sure. I feel like I've been blessed. My kids have been each of their ways, even the most difficult times have been my greatest teachers. Yes are they are but the most beautiful thing is when the the child knows you through and through for your worst and your best yeah tell me about your foundation how can the outside world come into your world and be open for everybody i last time somebody said if they feel it let's say somebody walked by and feels the vibration what happens it does happen yeah uh yeah it doesn't

matter if you're somebody lives on the street how do you say that homeless homeless or somebody very poor or somebody who is maybe done something bad in their lives very bad things the gate opens always i always open the gate for everybody for everybody everybody that feels needs love needs to be whatever i don't i'm not bothered with if you want to be awakened or not i really can't be bothered if you need just to be can rest here be themselves then we have the great silence i have a sitting every random i there's a little bell ringing and then i sit and everybody who is true to their own heart I look at you and this love expression this not to be thought but to feel it challenge your mind of course but it intelligence your heart and then in this silence of 24 it's very impressive because it's the most pure language we have is the silence that is transmitted through

love you will it's an impressive feeling you some start to cry or start to open it breaks open so you all in one go in oneness with the source that's very impressive because there is no interfering of the mind only your own mind right there is nobody else who is like well i'm using the words now so that could trigger a mind easily when i'm silent with you it's just your own mind you're hearing you know your own oh she's looking at this and oh i, you know, it's your own. So, but in those 24 hours, you get very quiet with yourself because you have all the time to see how this works. It goes very natural and very fast. You have no idea of the time.

You know, I help people also to that particular moment. I guide them through that it will be moving in a very soft feeling for yourself you you will open up it's extremely powerful it's very quickly come to the source 24 hours yes it's very nice everything you make up in your mind is not the truth the truth is extremely powerful. It's extremely beautiful. Then I have the satsangs, of course, where we sit. Satsang is good to be in the light. If you want to come to the source, to the heart, you have to be with somebody who is doing this.

That's very important. Sit with somebody who is true to your heart, who is real, who you feel, who sits with you no matter what. Satsang where you ask the questions you need to be asked, to be guided to. That's satsang four. Satsang is important to everybody who is stopping the search in themselves and to want to be, come to the truth. That's satsang.

Then we have the singing mantra. The singing mantra, I love it when it goes mantra. I love it when it goes wrong. I love it when it goes wrong. Yes, I love that. Of course, I am terrible. Don't have me in a band because I'm always the one making fun and everything. But I have so much fun in singing. I love singing, and especially to God and to the source and to everything that's real.

But yes, of course, it's very important when it's a mantra or a girtan. Girtans can be very fast and it's good to let the mind go, you know. So I do a bit crazy. I can do very funny or whatever. And I love it when it's chaos. I love it when it's not, you know, it's not, yeah. You see, when everybody starts to smile they don't think anymore and then the heart shows up so don't people don't do their

best anymore they're just there so that's lovely to do so can anyone come to your location in spain enjoying yes yes so where can they find you or where can they find you know information to get there that's kareem kareem.org yes that's it i'm not so busy with that i have people doing this because i'm not yeah putting myself really sort of on display like look at me no no no it's just it's a it's a thing people have to feel you have to be drawn to it it's it's your own source that runs to it you get the call you'll get the call you you feel oh god i feel this i have to go there and then people get afraid or they have all these excuses or whatever and then later on a year later they say i have to go i have to meet

i have to see that's the way it goes now they can watch you though yes yes yes no problem you can you can watch me you can join anonymous whatever you want if you feel this you have to join and i've got people living with me permanently they i can't get rid of them. I'm trying everything. I really did. I thought I had these bands around their ankles, but no. I tried everything. Get rid of them. No.

But when I move, what if I move? We're moving with you. Oh, that's so funny. I love it. Yeah. Yes, it's the way it is so there must be a spread an expression of love it must be otherwise i don't know what this is what is your hope no i have no hope i have the only thing i felt very strong is that people have to come to the source. That's the most important thing to me, is that schools are open from the heart schools.

I would love that. People really, you know, the source is important. Okay, mathematics, language, everything is important. I agree. Yeah, the first thing is the heart, the source. We have to know the source. And if we know that, mathematics, languages, everything like that will follow. It's no problem.

We all know if a child is feeling good, it learns better, it's happier. We all are. But when we come to the source, it's even greater because then we don't have to abuse our minds. And if we don't need to identify with our minds anymore, but we use our minds more, we're far more connected with everything. I just appreciate you spending this hour with me.

I feel very calm, good, like from the inside out. And I appreciate and very much respect you and your practice and your passion to see people awaken to source. Yes. We could talk for hours. Yeah. Nobody wants to listen to hours. No, but I could listen to you for hours because you have me mesmerized by your frequency

so yeah thank you so much for coming on a pleasure and truly maybe one day maybe one day I may be completely grey by then but it just may take that long

all of your children, they're all welcome but if the time is there. I'm not taking my children. No. Oh, you want to? Yes, I am. Okay, yeah, right. I follow it.

Oh, you're so sweet. Well, thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thanks for listening to Sense of Soul Podcast. And thanks to our special guests for joining me. If you want more of Sense of Soul, check out my website at www.mysenseofsoul.com where you can work with me one-on-one or help support Sense of Soul Podcast by donating to my coffee fund.

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