Sense of Soul - Finding the I AM Within

Episode Date: June 10, 2025

Today returning on Sense of Soul we have Padma Aon Prakasha he is an evolutionary catalyst and wisdom author bringing together ancient wisdom and modern science. Padma’s books, music and multimedia are drawn from the traditions he has been initiated into. His books include: The Power of Shakti, Womb Wisdom, Sacred Relationships (Inner Traditions), The Christ Blueprint, The Nine Eyes of Light: Ascension Keys from Egypt (NAB/Random House), Dimensions of Love, Shiva's Hologram: The Maheshwara Sutra and The Science of Sound (O Books). Since 1997 he has presented, lectured and taught in 20 countries worldwide.  After being initiated into the Brahmin lineage at age 4, he read the Bhagavad Gita followed by the Bible at age 7 and a whole host of spiritual teachings by age 11. When he was 21 he had an experience of the AUM and God Consciousness that changed his life forever, followed by a direct and unexpected meeting with Christ Yeshua. Shortly after this, Padma was initiated in India through a Near Death Experience in Badrinath by Master Babaji, and into the Saivite Lineage in Kedarnath. Further Initiations into Saivite Tantra and the RK Veda through the Arunachala Sampradaya and Ganesha followed. Padma was also Initiated into Tibetan Tantras through female teachers Prem Prabhuta and Margot Anand, and is an Initiate in the Order of Melchizedek. Padma’s most powerful ‘formal’ Initiations came through Sri Om, an Awakened teacher in London from the Lineage of Buddha Maitreya, associated with the enlightened wisdom of many traditions. After this, Padma sat in Samadhi, the highest form of bliss meditation, for two months, 16 hours a day. Samadhi activates the pineal gland and many dormant gifts within us, which Padma then demonstrated through his numerous books, workshops and transmissions over the ensuing years. https://padmaaon.com Visit www.senseofsoulpodcast.com

Hey Soulseekers, it's Shanna. Journey with me to discover how people around the world awaken to their true sense of soul. Now go grab your coffee and open your mind, heart and soul. Today on Sense of Soul, I have Padma Ayan Prakasha. He is an evolutionary catalyst and wisdom author bringing together ancient wisdom and modern science. Padma's books, music, and multimedia are drawn from the traditions he has been initiated into. He's been on Sense of Soul before where we had one of the most enlightening conversations. And so it's my honor to welcome Padma and his wisdom

back on Sense of Soul. How are you? I'm good, how are you? Good to see you. Good to see you as well. Where are you at now? I'm in England. You're in England? Were you in Spain last time?

That's right. Yeah. I was living in Spain and I moved last year back to England. All right. Well, how do you like being home? It's nice because everyone speaks English. That's always useful. Is the lighter okay behind me? There. No, it's fine.

You look divine. Okay. I'll take your word for it. I'm actually in my youngest daughter's bedroom today. My oldest daughter just got me this for Mother's Day. Do you know who this is? No. Okay, so she was like one of my favorite cartoons when I was little. Out of her chest would come the rays of the rainbow. Right, nice. I know. Beautiful. Yeah, I was so excited when I saw it. I was like, oh, my favorite cartoon. Oh, that's so sweet.

Which is kind of interesting now since, you know, I work so much with the chakras. And that is kind of my purpose to, you know, to spread the wisdom of that subtle body. Right. Yeah. Often what we felt most drawn to as children is what we end up doing in later life. So that's true. I 100% believe that. I would have like 10 Cabbage Patch Kids pretending I was the mom and running around my little pretend car. That happened. Not 10, but half that. It sounds like fun. You know what else I would do? I would teach my little brother the Bible. It was a kid's Bible, so it wasn't like word for word scripture. It told the story of Jesus. And now as an

adult, my truth of what I've read in the scripture and I've learned of Jesus through the Gnostic Gospels and even through your book. Was it called the Christ Blueprint? That's right. Yes, it is. I have it. And I'm pleasantly, pleasantly surprised to know that Jesus was a lot like me, a lot like you. He wasn't untouchable. In fact, I would say he was divinely defiant against the systems, against the government, against religion. Exactly. And he was shaking things up. He wasn't conforming. Exactly. And he was very human too. He had like human feelings. He felt sad, he felt despair, he felt joy, he felt anger, he felt love

for his wife. So he felt all these things. So is that the Christ consciousness, you know, that we're trying to connect with? It's inclusive of everything. It doesn't exclude anything. So yeah, I think that's what a lot of people get wrong is that they don't understand that in Yeshua's eyes, you know, we have three different parts of ourselves. We have the nafsha, which is kind of like the ego body mind self, with all his voices and needs and wants and things like that, you know, and then we had the Ruha or the soul. And then beyond that we had the Inana, which is the I Am presence or the universal field. That is what everything arises from and everything dissolves back into.

So in that I Am, there is no you, you know, there is no ego you, there is no soul you. I would separate you. Yeah, it's just a beingness. But within that beingness, the soul and the nafsha are connected to that. They're not separate from that at the same time. So everything was included, but obviously we wanted included but obviously we wanted to be under the guidance or in the presence of the I Am, the Inana, and then that guides the soul and then that guides

the ego. So the ego is just a servant and even the soul is just a servant. So instead of the ego being the master, you know. Yeah, we've become a bunch of sheep. Exactly. But Yeshua even loved the sheep. Yeah, I mean, in the Bible, they talk about that. He says, I lay down my life for my sheep, meaning that he sacrifices himself on one level in order to help people, but on another level it means that he has to lay down his ego and he even has to lay down his soul in order to properly guide and teach and lead the sheep of other people but also of his own ego and his own soul. But yet we've been told that this is who he is. We have been told this is what he wants you to be.

But yet it was kind of the complete opposite of his entire mission. Yeah, I mean, there's been a lot of mistranslation of the Aramaic, which is the language that Yeshua spoke in, that he taught in, that he transmitted in, that he breathed. And Aramaic is a sacred language. So sacred languages like Aramaic or Sanskrit, Hebrew, they all work on seven levels of meaning.

So one person can translate it from one level of meaning, let's say they're in the nafsha or ego, so they're translating it from that perspective. And then another person can listen to exactly the same thing, and they'll be translating or hearing that or receiving that in their soul, in their ruha. And then another person will be in the Inana, in that I Am universal presence, universal self.

So they'll translate it in a totally different way. So Yeshua knew this, you know, when he was speaking, when he was sharing the Lord's Prayer, when he was sharing the Beatitudes, and when he was sharing the final teachings, which were all about the I Am mantras, or the I Am codes, which are very famous, like I Am the light of the world, and I Am the way, the truth, and the life, and so on. I Am the bread of life. But he wasn't saying that I Am, as in me, I am the way, the truth and the life.

He was saying, the I am, that is the same in you, that is the same in me, the same that is in everyone, and maybe everyone hasn't recognised that within themselves but that same I am is the way is a truth is a life is a resurrection is a beginning and the end is a light of the world so he wasn't talking about himself so once you understand that then as is translated properly from the Aramaic then you go to look at, okay, so what is this I am? And what was he actually saying? Because what we've been told he's saying about all of these things is quite incorrect,

or it's just coming from an egoic, purely mental, linear, 3D perspective. So that's when it gets really interesting, because then you really go into Yeshua's real teachings, and that requires some intelligence and scholarship, but it also requires a deep immersion in meditation in those sacred sounds and in those sacred mantras. And then that gives you the access

to what Yeshua was really saying, and even more importantly, the access to what Yeshua was really saying and even more importantly, the access to the experience that Yeshua was coming from or the experience that he was inhabiting or the experience that he was living, which is the I Am. So in the last year of his ministry in Palestine, he recognized that all the apostles and disciples were all looking to him and him alone. So they were deifying him.

And he understood that this was not what he wanted to share. So this is when he started to share about the I AM mantra, the first one which is I AM the Bread of Light, which is Inana, Alakhma. So he started to share these sayings and teachings but also mantras as in a way that people could access directly for themselves that vibration or that pathway. So in one sense, Yeshua created this whole meditation embodiment system to bring his apostles out of this deification of Him and worship of Him as God and to get them to come into that universal I Am presence within themselves to empower them. And guess what? It worked because when he was crucified, all the apostles went off or fully empowered

and then went off to Italy, to Greece, to France, to India, to Turkey, you know, all over the Middle East, Europe and even Asia to teach and to transmit what Yeshua had taught. So it worked because that was only he only started teaching these ayam mantras one year before the crucifixion and resurrection. So that gave all the apostles time to step into that ayam presence within themselves and not just be deifying or worshipping Yeshua, which is not what he wanted.

He wanted people to be liberated. He wanted people to be free. He wanted people to be in the same consciousness he was. And so that was a big part of his purpose and mission here on out. And then of course his wife, Mary Magdalene and the other female apostles also continued that in France through the feminine Christ

and through the divine feminine pathway. And then the other eight, nine apostles scattered all over Europe and spread the good word in that sense. But they weren't teaching what the church is teaching today. They were teaching something quite different for a couple of hundred years before it then got sabotaged and taken over by the Roman Empire and then, you know, became the Catholic Church and then it became, it reverted back to the deification of a man, a divine man, a God realized master, an incredibly loving and

beautiful and totally whole divine man, but still he was a man. Still he got angry. Still he, you know, I'm sure he had arguments with Mary Magdalene. They weren't perfect. They were husband and wife. They were making love. They were running around and doing their things. And he also told people off. He told the apostles off when they were being out of control or deifying them too much or just basically being ignorant. So he had the human experience like we do in certain aspects, but of course he had that full mastery over his ego, he had the full mastery of his soul too because he wasn't,

he knew that there was something beyond the soul which is Inana, or the I Am, and of course beyond that there is Allah, is Allah, so God. So this is what he was teaching and so there was no separation in any of that. We need the ego to live and walk and talk and eat and pay the bills and go for a you know go for a walk and go for a hike. We need the ego body mind to do that because the soul doesn't do that. Yeah. And then we need the soul to really connect into, you know, deeper feelings of love and to connect more soulfully and heartfully with people.

That's the soul. And then beyond that there's an I am, which is just as very gentle peace, the peace that passes all understanding. And that is the same within everyone. peaceful peace, the peace that passes all understanding. And that is the same within everyone. And that presence, which is the same in everyone, is different to the soul because the soul is still unique. You know, you have a unique soul, I have a unique soul. They're still separate.

We're still separate, even a soul. It's like the last fortress of individuality, you know, as a soul. So we spend all this time and effort, you know, moving from the ego to the soul. It's like the last fortress of individuality, you know, as a soul. So we spend all this time and effort, you know, moving from the ego to the soul. And we're like, yeah, we've made it to the soul. But then there's another step beyond the soul into the Inanna, that I am. So that's the, I am is like the witness of the soul. So it has nothing to do with the soul, even though it's intimate and the soul is within the I am. But at the same time, the I am is detached.

So it's just witnessing the soul and it's just being in that universal presence. And that I am, presence, feel is exactly the same in you as it is in me, as it is in everyone. So relating to others from that place just brings instant connection to those people. Instant connection because you're tapping into that within them. So people recognize you in a way because of that. Because everyone knows this part, this I am, everyone knows it, they may not be conscious of it, but everyone knows it.

So that's where the freedom really comes. The soul is not free. The soul is still a separate part. That's a very Gnostic view. Yeshua was a Gnostic. He wasn't a linear being, he was God realized. God walking in human form. So he understood everything. And he tried to teach people that as well.

You have so much wisdom. You have studied many different belief systems and cultures. Where did you get all of this wisdom? Because I mean, yes, yes, yes, yes. And I also wanted to say when you were speaking, I remember and I'll never forget Neil Donald Walsh saying we are like the hands of God, all of us separate, right? But all still on the hand of God. I love that. Yeah, that I am presence is one thing that unites us all. is one thing that unites us all. Because it's the same in everyone. Yeah. The soul is separate, will always be separate until you let go of it.

And then it just becomes a vehicle like a transparent conduit for the I am and for God to move through you, to move through your body mind, to move through your soul, to use your soul. Then the servant, the soul just becomes a servant and the ego becomes a slave. Do we come little murkabas? Well that again is just for the nafshah, the ego and the soul.

You know, the I AM has no murkabah, it's a universal beingness. It's at first, it was created at that very first point of light that came out of the void, that came out of the living waters. You know, it was the beginning of the word. Park. Yeah, so in India we call that the creation chakra. Everyone is connected to that through their body of light. But that very first point of light that came out of the void,

and in the beginning was a Word, and the Word was God, and then the light shined forth. In Hebrew they say that's, Wa aiehi eor, let there be light. That's the beginning of the I AM. So that is the same in everyone and in everything. That is the true freedom. That's where Yeshua was positioned, let's say, his body, mind and soul was positioned in that, was just a tool for that, just a conduit, just a way for the higher that presence, the I am presence to express itself,

which it did magnificently and beautifully through him and through his body, mind and through his soul. But returning to what you shared, yeah. I've done a lot of research, but I've been initiated into these lineages through different masters and different events that have happened in my life. And then of course, I've studied it very deeply using, you know, my intellect and the scholarly part of myself.

But actually, to be honest, the main part has been the direct and deep experience, because that is where you learn the most. I feel like all texts and books can have useful pointers to them, but when you actually experience what Yeshua experienced, only then will you really understand what you're saying. It's the same with any master. So when you go deep into the silence

and stillness within your heart, then you know the peace that passes all understanding. Before that, you'll never know that because that peace is not accessed through your mind. It's not accessed through your third eye or your crown chakra. It's not accessed through those places. So Yeshua talked about this secret cave of the heart. And in the Indian and Egyptian traditions, they talk about exactly the same thing. And of course, Yeshua was taught in the Egyptian tradition as well. So and in fact, a lot of what he taught comes from the earlier ancient Egyptian tradition.

So it's only when you have the direct experience of, you know, the silence and stillness in your heart, and no matter how you try and how much you meditate, you'll never get to that complete silence. Total silence is a silence that's within you and a silence that is outside you. So actually, it's a silence that's everywhere. That is a piece that passes all understanding. Well, there you go, right? The you just quoted Thomas, right? The kingdom is inside of you and outside of you.

When you come to know yourself, then you will be known. Exactly. That's how you experience it and it's very simple and direct. So for example when Yeshua said you know I am the resurrection and the life. So when you feel the life it is the life force, Wahai in Aramaic is what he said. Wahai. So that is a life force. That's what he was saying. So he was saying when you plug in directly

into your life force, which then connects to the life wave that connects the whole web of life, that connects all beings, because all beings are alive and all beings have life force. When you connect into that, it's totally ecstatic. It's even orgasmic in a way. And so it's only when you're in that mantra and your whole spine is undulating, there's so much joy because all the life forces

moving all the way up and down your chakras, you know, from root to crown and out into your light body and then down from your crown into your root and into your feet and into the earth. You just become this transparent conduit for God basically and that's the greatest joy. So when Yeshua says I am the way the truth and the life or I am the resurrection and the life, he's saying clear yourself and open, ignite your life force, your Shakti or Kundalini because when you do, that's how you will experience the way and the truth, which is totally opposite to what the church has told us. They're all very stiff. They're not in their bodies. They're

not in their life force. They can't even dance or move their bodies properly. They're all stiff. Yeshua was totally the opposite. He was saying, you know, if you don't know how to dance and you don't know how the world operates, you can't know God if you don't know how to dance or something like that, he said in the Mastic gospel. And that's totally true because it's only when you have that life force fully flowing through you and you're totally alive, can you feel that joy? And can you feel that aspect of God that is totally alive, that is totally present, that is totally embodied, that is totally happy, that is totally in that fire of life, you know. So, yesh was very embodied in that as well and that's also why he could do what he could do.

He wasn't stiff wearing a suit and tie and walking around very prim and proper and hello, yes. Yeah. No. Yes, yes. Tipped my hat to you. No, he wasn't doing that, you know. He was very fluid and very free.

And obviously he was making love to his wife. Well, yeah. And I want to talk about that because I think in the Gnostic Gospels, I got to see such a part of Mary Magdalene, especially in the Pista Sophia that I connected with so much because she was so curious and she was seeking and she challenged Jesus and asked more questions than anyone else. And reading her, I'm like, yeah, this is like how I am,

right? And as a teacher myself, I have learned the most from my students. That is like, even as a parent, that's my wisdom. My wisdom has come from being in that leadership role. So I wonder how much of Jesus's journey, you know, had he learned from the human experience and from those he was teaching? Well, definitely he learned with Mary, you know, and, you know, Mary Magdalene is a divine feminine. So in my direct experience of Mary Magdalene,

she is fully alive. She's fully in her heart. She's fully holy, but she's fully and sacred, but there's such a love and a sensuality with that as well. So you can be sensual and holy, you can be alive, fully alive and bubbling with laughter and joy and vivacity and at the same time be totally sacred as well. And the first time I experienced that, which was in the south

of France at her sacred site, I was totally blown away because I'd never felt a woman or a feminine presence like this. I'd felt like divine mother, and I'd felt like the purity of the feminine, I felt the wildness of the feminine, I felt all these different ones, but to have it all in one package, like this sensual,

holy, joyful, laughing, joyful, feminine presence all in one. Sounds like the triple goddess soul in one, you know, the many, many aspects of a woman. Exactly. But every woman has that within her. They just need to ignite it. And so when I experienced that, they just need to ignite it. And so when I experienced that, that was a real eye-opener for me, because I've never experienced that before. And it was human as well. It wasn't detached or transcendent or out there some way. It was human and fully divine at the same time. And there was no separation between the two. That's why it was super sensual,

but super holy at the same time. It was like you were praying and making love at the same time. Like making love is the prayer. And that was such a teaching for me to then put into practice with my partner, because I understood that then making love as a form of prayer fully in my heart and fully praying at the same time as making love just was like rocket fuel to my car, was like rocket fuel.

It moved and touched things that no matter how much I meditated or prayed or did all these different spiritual practices, just a simple act of praying when making love and truly making love because you're praying, you're bringing God into the bedroom and you're palpably feeling that in your heart. It's like it totally accelerated any and all healing. Was the energy of creation.

The energy of life, yes. But it's also that, you know, that transcendent God, that divine love. But bringing that into my body, bringing that into my heart and bringing that into the action of making love. And that just healed so many other things that other approaches couldn't heal. The first time I did that, I was crying and so was my partner. We were both crying because we felt so much love with life force, but also all these deep emotions also arose within us as well. So it was like deeply healing. Yeah, people are afraid to talk about this too because they have so much shame around this and I don't think it was meant to be that way ever, because I do believe that it could be a sacred practice.

Exactly. For sure. It's holy lovemaking. And actually, in the Hebrew tradition, they talk quite a lot about that. But of course, in the Indian Tantric tradition, it's the most alive as in being practiced. So, you know, part of that tradition, which I'm pretty sure was also done in the Hebrew and Aramaic traditions, is the anointing of the goddess. So I've had something similar done like this done to me, where by two high priestesses at an Indian temple,

just a few years ago. But it's the anointing of the goddess to the goddess. So the high priestess brings the energy and puts in the sounds of the Hebrew alphabet or the Sanskrit alphabet in my case, and they put it into different parts of your body, including your sexual organs as well. Okay. Then, so that kind of anoints you, it purifies you, it's, you become like a sacrament in a way, you become sanctified. So that's a really beautiful ceremony which and transmission because it's

really deeply felt. Where do I get one of these? It makes your body sacred. Well, I do them now for certain people at the meeting. But it sanctifies your body as sacred, not as dirty or shameful or as a tool for the devil or whatever the belief is. But it actually sanctifies it as a vessel for the divine. Okay Padma, do you know what I've discovered since I've talked to you last? So we talked in the last episode, which all listeners go back and listen, because it was one of my most favorite conversations I've ever had. We talked about my last name, Vavra, right? Vavra, which I still chant. But I learned that Vavra is also a Sanskrit word.

And it means hidden. Interesting. So you are hidden even from yourself. But not for long because I'm on a mission to uncover it all. Can you believe that? I was like, holy cow, it just gets better and better with this last name. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's your frequency, isn't it? It's your sonic signature. So, yeah. Yeah, I don't have to change my name. I'm just keeping it. Yeah. I think it's too, too bad. You know, it's just so interesting, though. I mean, had I never

It's just so interesting though. I mean, had I never been curious, I would have never discovered that ever. You know, I mean, how much is in the blueprint that we've created, you know, that is right there, hidden in plain sight, but yet we're too busy, you know, in our lives, keeping up with the Joneses, as they say here. Yeah, all the ego mind stuff, as Yoshua would say, the nafsha. But yeah, you know, when I'm teaching, I've taught many courses over the last few years about these I AM mantras and in every single group, I'm teaching one right now actually.

Really? On online course, yeah. For a lovely group of people, very sincere. And they are having profound experiences like they do in each of these IAM courses. But they're having huge healings happenings and going into pure stillness and silence and huge openings happening in their chakra systems because the I am mantras connect, each word connects into a different chakra.

So for example, that inana, yeah, your heart, that means I am. But then for example, Wahai, which is the life or the life force that's connected into your sacral and root chakras as a ignition of the life force. So of course that life force then travels up the spine into the brain and opens up the chakras.

So each of the mantras that Yeshua shared in the seven I AM codes, each of them plugs into and connects the whole nervous system. So it's like this exquisite light engineering that Yeshua saw and then spoke and then taught people how to meditate in that way to activate, open, clear and heal themselves. That was not reliant on him. I mean, yes, he saw it and yes, he spoke it and yes, he taught it. But then he left. Like literally a year yes, he spoke it and yes, he taught it. But then he left. Like literally a year later, he left. And then all the apostles and, of course,

all the disciples, of which there were hundreds more. And women included. Yeah, I mean, four of the apostles were women out of the 12. So all of these other hundreds of men and women were then left with these mantras and these teachings and these practices to do that Yeshua had taught them. And so they could continue evolving. They weren't like suddenly left all bereft like, oh no, Yeshua is gone, what am I going to do? You know, most of

them were, had been taught in private, in Joseph of Arimathea's house in Jerusalem and also in Galilee at certain caves and certain other wealthy people's houses who were followers of Yeshua. So a lot of people had been taught in a lot of different places by Yeshua and how to connect into that God self into their divine spark into that I AM presence. So yeah in these courses I am teaching it's I've done maybe three or four years now of this. And it's utterly profound for them. And it's really wonderful for me to see how deep it ignites in your average human being, you know?

And how deeply people are healing and how deeply people are going into the I Am and how happy they are and how joyful they are, but also how deeply they are meditating as well within that and how much their hearts are opening. So, you know, this meditation system of the I AM mantras certainly works because I've experienced that many, many times now

with hundreds, if not thousands of people. So I know it works and so do all the people that have done it. And it's if you really want to know and learn what Yeshua is teaching, the best way to do that is to experience it. Yes, to understand the Gnosticospels and these teachings is great, but it's much better to directly experience it because then only then will you truly know what Yeshua was saying, what he was really teaching, you know what any master was teaching, what Mary Magdalene was saying, you know, what the true saints in their Christ conscious lineage were saying as well. Only then will you truly get it. So it's always like, you know, it's always having

the direct experiences of most important thing, and then having, you know, a secondary thing, you know, the intelligence or the scholarly understanding, which changes quite a lot when you have the direct experience. That's what I've been experiencing because mine was not scholarly first, you know, first it was my own experiences that led me there. And to me, that would make more sense when they say a living scripture. Exactly, you are the living scripture. You are that, you are that. Yeah and that's you know having that direct experience has been really lost in the Christian lineage which comes from the ancient Egyptian lineage.

So there's a huge amount of evidence that shows that. In what Yeshua taught and what he called himself, like, for example, I am the good shepherd is actually a term for Horus and Osiris in the ancient Egyptian lineage. And then if you look at the stories of Horus and Osiris in the ancient Egyptian lineage. And then if you look at the stories of Horus and Osiris, there's like hundreds of parallels to a virgin birth and being born under three stars and being crucified and this and that. It's the same story that Yeshua lived. I know that people hear this often. Oh, they just stole this story from mythology. Or is it that this is happening and this will continue to live and embody in people and

some of their stories have been told like Jesus, like Osiris, right, or Dionysus, Mithra. All of these stories are kind of testimony of what we are coming to today to find within ourselves. Right, yeah, I mean, it's like a divine pattern of enlightenment. So that was started even before Egyptian times, but we have records of it from ancient Egypt. So Osiris and Horus and Yeshua went to Egypt when he was in his teenage years, was taught in the temples there because he lived there for at least three and a half years, as the

Bible tells us, and other records tell us as well. So he learned all these things. He was initiated into the lineage of Horus and the Cyrus. So he began to embody. Exactly. Yeah, but he was following that lineage. That's why his story is the same as their story. So he was just continuing the lineage as the next great master of that lineage after Horus. Osiris was the most well-known one, Horus was the second one, and then Yeshua was the third. So he just continued the lineage, initiated in the temples and into the different teachings like art and various other things as well and then he came back and then he went off again for another 12 years most people say to India and only

then at 32 did he then return to Palestine to do you know his final work he was following the lineage that he was initiated into and then you know the beautiful thing the most beautiful thing that he did in that context was to take this vast corpus of Egyptian wisdom, Egyptian inner tantric technologies, Egyptian knowledge of the chakra system, Egyptian yoga, all these Egyptian experiential alchemical transformative methods and he took it all this huge corpus of wisdom which still today most people don't fully understand even most Egyptologists don't really get it yeah even if they've studied it for 40-50 years. Yeshua took all of this and refined it and simplified it and taught it in through these other vehicles that he made available to everyone. The only shame about that is, is that he did such an amazing job of it. The only shame of it is that most people don't understand what he actually did because you can't really understand what he taught unless you

know something about the ancient Egyptian lineage and more importantly have directly experienced it. something about the ancient Egyptian lineage and more importantly have directly experienced it. So when, for example, I am the Good Shepherd, it's actually, you know, the title, it was a name, the title of the office of Horus and Osiris. And Osiris holds the staff of the Good Shepherd. He actually is, you can see it in many places in Egypt, him holding the staff of the Good Shepherd. We actually, as you can see it in many places in Egypt, in holding the staff of the Good Shepherd. Now, that staff is exact replica of the nervous system going up the spine. And the end part of the staff curls into your brain.

So it's actually how the way the serpentine circular energy moves up the spine and spirals and then it spirals into the brain to connect into the pineal which is the staff that he's holding. So in some of these Ayam Mantras, Ayam the Good Shepherd for example, shows you how to do that, how to raise that energy shows you how to do that, how to raise that energy and to then embody your nervous system, you know, to open your nervous system, which today is seen, you know, in most spiritual teachings and practices is very important. But back then, they had they had the technology to do that, that is actually far more powerful than most ways of approaching the nervous system today.

And obviously it worked because Osiris and Horus and Yeshua and others embodied that and then they taught that as well. So there's a huge amount in your ancient Egyptian lineage that when you understand it, you can really understand what Yeshua was sharing and Yeshua was very open about it. It's just that most people today don't understand it because they're looking at it from a

very narrow lens and most of those people haven't had the experience of what Yeshua is talking about. So basically you have three levels of totally mistranslating everything that he said. And so that's why the distortions have happened and that has led to a lot of these, you know, very painful and harmful things like child abuse and like the inquisition and like the total denigration of women and various other abuses and wars and abuse of power and money and this and that. A lot of it has come because they have totally mistranslated

what Yeshua is sharing, they have totally intellectualized the teachings and they have not had the direct experience of what he was sharing, and they don't know where it comes from, which is from ancient Egypt. Why see black and white when there is an entire chakra of colors, right? Exactly, exactly. And where you're at in your consciousness or the next level you need to go to is what you need to go to is what you need to access. So we receive what we need to know and what we need to go to the next level. So I feel like that's the most

important thing, experientially and practically. Now for a teacher, a teacher has a different responsibility because as Yeshua said, I lay down my life for my sheep, which means that, it has many meanings, but in this context it's, I lay down my ego mind, I lay down my soul, so then the I am can move through me and give the best teaching of all to not only other people, which are the sheep, but also the sheep that is my own ego. You know, so in that sense, you know, I got a teacher as a different level of responsibility

because the teacher has to know all of it, not intellectually, but be plugged into that can share the right wisdom at the right time for the right person. But the only way you can do that is if there is no I there. You have to be that total transparent conduit. You have to be the hollow reed. You have to be the sacred, you know, hollow pipe that allows it all to flow through you. And so the mind is surrendered to that I am, the soul is surrendered to that I am. Then you are, then you can be the good shepherd. Then you can share with people what is totally right for them in that perfect moment.

Because your mind cannot do that. Your ego cannot do that. Even the soul can't do that. The soul can do a little bit of that. But if you're going to deliver the right, the perfect thing in a perfect moment, you will never know what that is. It will just happen through you. God will move through you and deliver that through your surrendered body, mind, soul. That's what Yeshua was one meaning of what you're saying, when I am the good shepherd.

And so the teacher has that deeper level of responsibility, but that responsibility comes from them having gone deeper within themselves and open themselves and surrendered themselves to God. Because ultimately, you know, what's the true teacher on the lineage is one who has surrendered to God. Because ultimately, you know, what's the true teacher on the lineage is one who has surrendered to God. So then everything can happen. So, you know, a lot of the wisdom that flows through me

is happens spontaneously in the moment. And so I have had to learn certain things, but it happens in the moment and it happens because I have had to learn certain things, but it happens in the moment and it happens because I have surrendered. I am fully devoted and dedicated to helping humanity in everything that I do. And that's very clear both within myself and to God. And that can't be planned. No, no, no, no.

Not at all. Not at all. I mean, that's that surrender. A lot of people say it's like, you know, a gradual thing. And in a way it is, but for me, it was totally unexpected and totally spontaneous and totally heartbreaking or heart opening in that sense. And after that, my whole life was different because I didn't worry about anything.

That's the first thing, first effect is that you don't worry about anything. You know that everything that is happening in you and around you and to you and for you is being given by God. And God is manipulating every light force, every dark force, everything for you to come more into God, which of course is fully embracing of light and dark, of good and evil, so to speak, God is neither and both, and just uses the force of evil to help people evolve

if they understand it that way, if they are surrendered, if they have the eyes to see, if they understand it and take it in that way. So you can have something really catastrophic happen to you and most people are like, oh my God. And then, have something really catastrophic happen to you and most people are like oh my god and then for example that happened to me and I didn't feel anything. I was just okay this is happening for my own good to bring me deeper into God, to bring me deeper into that still point in the chaos when nothing can affect me. That is God too. So I understood it like that.

And then I gave thanks to God for that because I thank you for helping me through this evil occurrence or these evil people who are whatever X, Y, Z. But actually I thanked them too because they were helping me because I had surrendered within my own heart and also surrendered with my mind.

And then my mind came to understand that everything that happens is designed to propel me further into God. And that is incredibly loving. That is so loving. It's like God is so loving. I mean, that God spark I am that is within in my own heart, access with the silence and stillness of my own heart

is the access point to God. And God is so loving because he just loves me so totally that it will bring me and give me everything I need to bring me into that. I mean, how incredibly loving is that? I love how you said that in your mind has to catch up. It's always about the mind having to catch up to all of it. Yeah, the mind is the last thing to get it.

That's for sure. Yeah. Well, eventually it comes into line. You just go like, shh. Like just, it's like remember remember, you're the servant, you do as you're told, little mine. And then it becomes a good servant. And then you can, you see things in a totally different way whereby you, when you surrender

to the divine, when you surrender to God, then all your worries go away. It doesn't mean things don't happen. It just means you're not worried about it because you know everything is taken care of. Thank you so much. You have so much wisdom. You make me want to go inside and just explore it all. Wonderful. It's not outside of us, is it?

It's all inside. Where can everybody find you? You and your wisdom, your teachings. I love that you're teaching this I Am. Yeah, so my website, padmaaon.com, and then I also have links to my website, to my YouTube and Facebook and so on. But yeah, the I AM codes, I AM mantras of Yeshua are what I'm teaching right now for the next four or five weeks. Okay. Yeah, that's, if I was just to sum up three words from all my students on it, powerful, loving and healing on a causal level,

not on the effects, but on the causal level. So, yeah, I love seeing that in people and people genuinely transforming because it's only when people transform out of being led by their mind that then that has a genuine effect on all of humanity. That's also a big part of my dharma, my sole purpose is to help all of humanity. But one person genuinely, deeply, authentically transforming from being mind-led to soul-led and then into being in the I Am presence, has a much more profound effect than just people, a few people changing their thoughts about things. Right.

So, I love my work because it affects individuals, but it also affects the whole collective as well. That's always been very clear for me right from my early 20s when I started to realize a little bit of something about something. Yes, that's the way to do it because actually what does Yeshua said, what did all the Bodhisattvas said, we're here to help all beings. So that's the most direct way to do it in a very practical ways to make sure that the individuals under my care genuinely transform. Then that helps everyone automatically.

So do you have any new books coming out? I mean, last time you shared with us was at the Shiva hologram. And then you're sitting there blowing my mind as I'm reading your other books. But yeah, please share, you know, your books and where everyone can get them as well. Oh, there are most of them are through inner traditions. They're all on my website. The book I'm writing at the moment, well, I finished writing, is called the I Am mantras of Yeshua, the I Am codes of Yeshua, or just the I Am. But that is only given to people who do the courses. Yeah, that's just what I feel to do at the moment, is to keep it in that kind of sacred container. But I may come

out to the public at some point, yes, all my books are drawn from all these different lineages I've been initiated into. And what I'm most excited about at the moment actually is drawing the most powerful aspects from all these lineages, like the ancient Egyptian, the Indian, the Tibetan, also Christ Consciousness lineage as well, drawing the most powerful parts from each of them and putting them into a year-long course, which I'm calling the Awakening Intensive. So after the 20 years of teaching this, I've seen which ones have the are the fastest, most direct, most efficient, most powerful methods to awaken.

And so now I've brought the pieces together from these different images that work the most powerfully and propel people into the deepest transformations and brought it all together into a yearlong course, which I'm probably launching near, you know, around Solstice and about mid-June or so. So I'm really excited about that because I really feel the time is here for people to really rapidly transform using time-tested, successful methodologies from the worlds of the Enlightenment traditions. And when I say Enlightenment traditions, it means that traditions have produced the highest number of enlightened

beings throughout history. So the Christ conscious and ancient Egyptian lineage and the Indian lineage have produced the most enlightened beings in the last five, six thousand years. So obviously they're doing something that works. So it's those lineages I'm initiated into. So I've drawn them some of the best, fastest means of transformation from them that I've been working with with thousands of people over the last 20 years. And that have brought it into one kind of coherent package. So I'm very excited about that because it's super accelerating for people and it's coming from a really clear and strong lineage that has produced, you know, many hundreds of thousands of fully awakened beings.

I feel very honored to know you Padma. Thank you. Thank you. It's lovely to see you again. Sense of Soul. Thanks for listening to Sense of Soul podcast. And thanks to our special guest. If you want more of Sense of Soul, check out my website at SenseofSoulPodcast.com.

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