Sense of Soul - How to be SuccesSoul

Episode Date: November 30, 2020

Today on Sense of Soul we welcomed Vicky Paul a beautiful soul, spiritual coach, intuitive, author and artist. She joined us to share tools, tips and techniques to help you overcome your challenges and activate your gifts, talents, goals and achieve “SuccesSoul”!! As an artist and coach, Vicky teaches how to communicate universally activating energy, and how you can use art as a way to connect deeper into your soul, quieting your mind to allow the truth of who you are to surface. Check out Vicky’s book How to be SuccesSoul®  a guide to reconnecting with your soul. It will help you lead a happier life with more joy, balance, purpose and meaning and become who you were born to be and all of her amazing readings and coaching she offers at her website www.vickypaul.com Follow her on Instagram  Go to www.mysenseofsoul.com to check out today’s sale for Cyber Monday sale and our new Personalized Customized Meditation!!

Welcome to the Sense of Soul podcast. We are your hosts, Shanna and Mandy. Grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. It's time to awaken. Today on the Sense of Soul, we are so excited to have Vicki Paul. She is a soul purpose coach, an intuitive, and an artist. She teaches people how to connect with their soul so they can activate their gifts and talents. She helps them overcome lessons and challenges. She's extremely passionate about self-transformation and human potential. And she believes that we all have it in us to aspire to be who we're truly supposed to be. She does soul portraits. I cannot wait to talk about those. And she has an amazing book and it is called How to Be Success Soul, the guide to reconnect your soul. And we are so honored to have you here.

Welcome, Vicki. Oh, what an introduction. Thank you, ladies. And I really appreciate the opportunity to chat to you and to chat to your listeners. So thank you for giving me that chance. It's very exciting. Yes, thank you for being with us you're such an amazing artist thank you I love art I really do and I love all kinds of art I live from crocheting to quilting to like your kind of art but I have this vision of you when you do art do you listen to music so I do two different types of art both of them are abstract so that's the main art that I do is purely intuitive abstract and that for that process it's almost like I channel spirit so your listeners and you guys will know what this means I get myself into sort of altered state of consciousness that That does not take very long. I normally tend to, if I'm coming at the canvas from a sort of peaceable place and I'm in the zone, then it's just an intuitive transfer.

Sometimes, though, if I feel I want to paint, you know, for whatever's been going on in the day, then I will do a mini meditation. And that can be just touching the canvas a blank canvas and then just connecting intuitively with the paints and then I just get myself into space because I've done it for years where I just it's like a conduit so yeah I have no idea what I'm going to paint I have no idea what's I'm obviously I'm consciously unaware of what's happening is the best way to describe it yeah the other artwork that I do I do abstract flowers because I'm really inspired by nature and I love the energy of flowers and sometimes I do listen to music but I listen to all kinds of music from I was a bit of a raver

back in the day when I was a kid so listen to hardcore dance music as much as you know sort of lovely you know meditation music but not for my intuitive painting no I don't I don't listen to music to that when I was looking at them I just felt so many different vibrations going on yeah that's giving me tingles what my paintings are all about they are a visual communication of spirit and I was guided to start painting again I always painted as a kid I wanted to go to art school and I ended up not going to because the school you had to be a very specific style and I just didn't like being put in boxes and I didn't paint for many years actually the last time I painted was when my papa passed away and I just stopped but yeah he was in the hospital

and he had cancer and he was dying with cancer and he took his false teeth out and he was really bad on morphine I know honestly I laugh and I can laugh now but he do you know Edvard Munch's The Scream yeah I he just looked like Edvard Munch's The Scream and I went home that night and just drew it you know 10 times and then I never picked up a paintbrush again until I was my late teens late teens so I painted as a kid I mean he was an artist and both my grandparents were artists not professional right and I was always had crayons and was always creative and then I stopped for god 20 odd years 20 years and then took it back up again when I started to experience my papa kind of coming through to me so that he obviously wanted me to

start painting again and I was um guided by spirit to paint as a way of communicating universal healing energy in the same way that mediums communicate you know messages of ultimately we are not alone we do not die spirit lives on so spirit are trying to communicate with different artists and different mediums to connect and resonate with a wider variety of people which is really what my art is about and I'm so glad you picked on picked up on that because it definitely is I feel my paintings are for specific souls and when they see it they'll connect with it and they'll just know and it has it holds the messages and the energy and the healing that they need at that time in their life yeah I mean

because I was picking up on different paintings were showing like the different chakra energies and so I just thought and it they almost tell a story then right yeah and that's why I love abstract art and it's hilarious because I did not paint abstract art when I was younger I was a realist and I was, you know, for fun, I used to copy some of the masters like Picasso and Van Gogh and I would just copy their styles and try and get the best exact replica. And I did not appreciate abstract art at all.

And now I'm so passionate about it because it tells a different story to every single person that looks at it. And if you can be open to just allowing the visual information to wash into you it pulls up all sorts of different stuff and that's what I love about it it's interesting I was going to say the exact same thing Shanna when I was going through your pieces the blue ones and and the yellow was really sticking out to me when I sat with that I definitely attached it to like my throat chakra there's

so much to be said about not just the art itself but why you are attracted to it and it sounds like it did offer you healing as well yeah well we suffered three miscarriages and I really struggled to articulate how I was feeling you know I've always been up until you know fairly recently as part of my soul journey I was always mrs you know independent you know I could do anything I'll get it sorted no worries just chuck it on I've got broad shoulders and I just for some obscure reason really struggled to understand and communicate what had happened because I was well into my spiritual and mediumship unfolding in my intuitive journey and I could not understand why if I was an intuitive how did I not intuit that I was going to have miscarriages and I had a bit of a I wouldn't say a crisis of faith but I was just you

know I could have I was angry with spirit because I hadn't understood what was going on and ultimately it was their gift to me and I started painting again not long after the last miscarriage and it literally just poured out of me and I found so much peace and so much healing in the actual practice of painting and I do I run workshops for using intuitive painting to help people with challenges around healing um for whatever that healing could be that ever that wherever that healing journey is and I really I'm passionate about that and you're absolutely right Mandy in terms of the colors you know colors are scientifically proven to shift our energy and and some of the workshops that I run we literally just stare at color where you just stand in front of a block of color like a big

canvas of blue or green or red or whatever it is and just allow the energy to wash over you and through you and it can help balance so it may well be that if you were connected with the blue, then there might be some imbalance in your throat chakra. And that could be either you need more energy to help communicate more or bring something out of you. Or it's like, whoa, it's now a time to sort of take that energy back in and stop verbally communicating. So dependent on where you're at, it's there to balance you. Yeah. You know, I just thought of something last night, I was looking up some symptoms that I've been having and it's like this weird itching,

but there's no rash. And guess what popped up? My thyroid. So maybe this is a sign that I need to because I've had thyroid issues in the past anyway I just thought of that well that's fascinating so you actually do workshops and you teach people how to you know sit with colors and different paints and canvas people have a preconceived idea about what painting is and what it should be and what their creative abilities are and I believe everybody's creative I believe there's an artist in every single one of us but we have been trained that if we replicate the vase exactly then we are good and we are creative whereas if we can't replicate it then we're not creative so what I do in my workshops we don't use any of the

traditional tools that you would use to paint we use bubble wrap sponges cutlery stones you know all sorts of different stuff just whatever comes into my mind at the time and I just chuck it all on the table and what I get people to do we do a little meditation beforehand and then I get people to and I can either do this guided or not and just get them to set an intention for the workshop and that can simply be to have an hour time out because they're busy moms busy parents or they've just not had any time out or we can go right the way the other end of the spectrum where we can say okay well there's something in me that needs healed that needs to come out I've got blockages so you can set the intention to in the way that you would set an

intention and just ask yourself you know hand on heart you know what is preventing me from moving forward in my life and you leave it open-ended and then we select the paint so I ask people to just look at the colors and just intuitively pick the colors that they feel drawn to. And then it's literally you play, you just get that paint onto canvas. However, you want to use it with your elbow, your fingers, your hair, a sponge. And then we stop halfway through and I get everybody to sort of do a show and tell and explain to people what they love about their work. So we're constantly cementing the positive affirmations and they have to stand up and say well I love this I love that rather than going well I don't really

like this or this is a bit naff or the colors didn't work out and it's really interesting to see how everything unfolds and and people start off in one direction and then once they get into the intuitive flow the whole thing changes. That's beautiful. I love this. I can totally see how it would work amazingly. Makes me think of children who they can show so much of what's going on in their head that they can't, you know, actually form words for this yet. They show it in their art.

My youngest is an introvert, but she's a very, very good artist. I love this, like using this art for expression of what's going on in your mind, in your soul. It's so beautiful. Thank you. You're absolutely great. Did you do the art on the front of your new book? I did, yes. This is actually, it's also my thumbprint. So I'm showing it to the girls.

So yes, that was a painting and the designer just kind of took a section of it and we put my thumbprint. So it is a bit of my artwork behind it, but it's more for the colors. There's so many layers and references in the front cover of the book. So I'm glad I can, when I did it, I thought are people going to get this, but it seems to be that they are. So creativity is just soul expression. It's just, you know, a vehicle for us to express who we are at a soul level.

And no matter what creative outlet that is. It's limitless where like with language there's you know there's a limit to how you can explain things I think a lot of people go into even meditation but then I could see this also happening when they sit down to do an art workshop is they have expectations and expectations I always say equal future resentments and all these conditions that have been put on us that we have expectations that, oh, we're not doing it right. We're not doing the meditation well enough. There's no right or wrong way. That's probably part of the hardest journey

of all of it is to shed what we have been guided to know and believe and fully trust in who we are and what's right for us and I'm you know I love meditation but I also find that meditation has limits and don't get me wrong I'm certainly not dissing it and I do meditate I don't have a regular meditative practice but I do meditate however for me if there was a word that was the same as meditation it would be feelingation where you go into your feelings you know and actually access your body from a feeling space rather than taking it from your mind and clearing your mind and then consciously taking your awareness elsewhere if you can bring yourself

into your feelings in my experience having done it both ways the feeling route is the one where you can really access that trust does that make sense we talk yeah oh that's like my biggest thing is discernment like using your body to actually you know seek the truth your body will absolutely tell you and it's funny that you say that because I've also realized that you can't just stay up here in your head in a meditative clear space you have to be grounded so there's like for me what we're talking about is this space up here to meditate up in the crown and using the body for truth and discernment and then definitely not forgetting your roots and to actually you know be grounded beneath you yeah I think you made it yeah absolutely 100%

balanced meditation and mindfulness, amazing for calming the brain, calming the mind, de-stressing. But if you really want to unearth, you know, the energies and release the energies that have been carried through this lifetime and past lifetimes, you know, it's the feeling is the only root. And as you say, the body. You mentioned like coming into kind of like your truth and what you're supposed to do, your purpose, you know, here connecting, you know, with your soul to be successful, which I love that word, by the way. Thank you. What, how did you go? And this happens, I think to a lot of people, you go from having these passions and these natural talents to kind of going off your track for a

while to coming back to your soul's purpose. And so was it the conditions of the world that was like telling you, you know, those passions and those hobbies are great and all, but you need to probably be this. And then your soul pulls you back. Can you kind of share what that pull away from your purpose was? Yeah, the short version. I've always had an interest in spirituality and was introduced to Deepak Chopra in my late teens when you used to listen to him on cassette, for God's sake, I'm giving away my age. And always had a sense of something more. There was something where I read the Celestine prophecies and totally resonated with it. Soul groups and, you know, picking your parents to come through and experience just everything resonated.

But I did nothing with it other than just read the books and put them down. And at the time I was in my mid 30s and I was a radio presenter at a shiny life. Everything was going really well. I was interviewing Madonna and Kylie Minogue and it was great. And then out of the blue, I lost my job and I did not take it well. It wasn't a great experience and it set me off on a bit of a path, mental ill health, physical ill health, emotional ill health. And my life, and I know you girls love to swear, but my life just went to shit. You know, it just literally hit rock bottom. And this is when I started to have these random experiences where I would drop things and they wouldn't just sort of fall out my hand it would kind of almost like they would kind of pop up and out and it always

came into my head oh my papa's trying to get a hold of me rather than I was tired because I was suffering from insomnia at the time and this went on for months and I never thought there was anything wrong with this and then I'd moved back into a house that I owned in Glasgow in Scotland. And there was a glass door between the hall and the lawn. I kept seeing this thing out the corner of my eye. Ended up speaking to somebody about it. And they had said, yeah, your papa is trying to get a hold of you. Wants to know who the guy is that's moved in that plays the violin.

Now, she would never have known this. My now husband, then boyfriend, had not long moved in and he played the violin. Now she would never have known this. My now husband, then boyfriend, had not long moved in and he played the violin, so did my papa. And then this is when my papa appeared. So I had no intention or any thought through any of my life that I was a medium and a psychic. I always enjoyed creativity and I always enjoyed writing. so at times I write poetry so I've always had a creative outlet I've always drawn and doodled but the fact of being a psychic and a medium was just you know wild to me I had an inkling that I was intuitive because I always had knowings I would know stuff and I would know stuff about people and I'm very good at reading people so it wasn't until I had that really dark period in my life

where you know my I was really rock bottom I had periods when I was bulimic you know my health really badly suffered you know my family I lost so much you know it was you know job losses no money you know it was just like this oh my god God, you're having a laugh. More shit. You know, and this went on for a while. And then obviously I saw my papa and it just, it just clicked. You know, the woman said to me, you do know you're a psychic and a medium. And I was like, no, but that sounds amazing. Let's have a look at this. And I just, I launched myself into it head first.

But I didn't do a lot with it. I did a lot of studying and I did it on the kind of the down low because I wasn't a massive fan of the opportunities that were available to me as a medium in Scotland at the time. You've got to stand on a platform and you've got to go through the spiritualist church and they have a structure and a process. And I just was like, I ain't going in any box. And then I did a workshop with an amazing medium, which you guys will know, James Van Praag. And he just blew my mind with his energy. He was such a breath of fresh air. And I'm a really upbeat person. I like, you know, high energy. I'm a glass half full type of person. And he just really pulled it out of me. And I had experiences like you would not believe, you know, spirit coming in, being in my body and me giving a reading to someone as her believe, you know, spirit coming in, being in my body and me giving a

reading to someone as her grandfather, you know, with the mannerisms and, you know, that path was just never in my mind's eye. But now that I look back, I see that my sole purpose has always been communication. The radio presenting was communicating, writing is communicating, an artist is communicating, mediumship is communicating tarot cards communicating so it's all communicating a message so we're always living our sole purpose I believe human beings like to understand the world so we like to put it in a box and label it and we've got okay well that's where that goes and I now know what that is and I was that person I was like okay well I want to know what my sole purpose is and I want to know what that job looks like where I'm going to get um

clients from how much money I'm going to earn and etc etc however I have realized that sole purpose is with us all the time and the more you are in your sole purpose and the more you let go of any preconceived idea of what the heck's going to happen and you stay in the present moment all this stuff gets thrown in front of you that you could never have imagined thank Thank you. I totally agree. I mean, and you know, what's funny is I could see it in children. I could see it in people who are choosing their paths right now, the young adults. And I'm just like, gosh, but you're really good at this, but I get it. You want to be a doctor or lawyer? Okay. You're really good at this. You have to kind of go through those things though. Yeah. And you know,

you have to try things and figure out what you don't want to do to figure out what you do want to do. You know, I have learned through even the darkest times, you know, and my loss, you know, the pregnancies, et cetera, et cetera, all of that are tools for me now, you know, and I do not react in the same way. Very little can actually phase me in the same way that it used to and I use you know I was very fortunate I was one of these you know my mum used to say if we you know we throw you in the Hudson and you'd come out with a salmon you know it's just like everything seemed to fall on my lap for a period of time and then it didn't so everything that we go through is just tools and we deliberately came here to experience it all everything that we go through is just tools. And we deliberately came here to experience it all.

Everything that's happening to you is by you and for you. So let's talk about how you came up with the title of your book. Title of my book came channeled. It was just, I was driving through from Edinburgh to Glasgow to see my sister. And you know, when you get into that zone zone when you drive and like five miles could pass you've changed gear and you've driven safely but you're like where the heck's the time gone I just had this brain dump and that was the first time I ever was aware of channeling although at the time I didn't realize it and it just came into my head as a workshop how to be success soul

so I wrote it down and then I thought that's kind of cool I like the play on the words because we are very success driven. You know, success is something that we all aspire to be and have. Words frame our reality. And I was really heavily into Louise Hay's affirmations and all the rest of it. And I was kind of aware of that, you know, the importance of language. So I looked up success and the definition of success success not today's definition but when we first invented the word in the 15th century and I was really surprised to read that it like had lots of different meanings but one of the main meanings was to go near to the outcome whether it was a good or a bad outcome was irrelevant success meant to go near to so when I then thought how to go near to soul oh my god I

love that and that's how how to be successful so it was not my idea it was those upstairs definitely so we won't ask you too many um questions about the book you wrote since you didn't actually write it but could you just tell our listeners, because I really loved just the quick description, like, you know what, listeners, if you're feeling lost, stuck in a rut or overwhelmed, you might want to get this book. So what else would you have? What else would you say to our listeners about this book? Well, I can tell you that much. It is a guide to reconnecting with your soul. So it's for people who are, who are maybe not on a spiritual path or people who are at the beginning of their spiritual journey, but it's for people who are aware that their life is

not what they want it to be. They are unhappy. They are dissatisfied. They have a feeling or a sense that there's something more. They might everything on paper ticking all the boxes but they're just like nah this is not working and they are just not happy so the book is basically a step-by-step guide to reconnecting with your soul self so it's wrapped up in my my story so that people can hopefully resonate and see some of them and me and me and them but it's a process and when I was on my own spiritual journey I was forever on google trying to find information um and work my way through what was happening to me because I even there was nobody else around about me you know my peers going through what I was going through and I found it really difficult to find any one book that I could kind of take step by step through each stage there was lots of different books like I've read stuff by Rebecca

Campbell and Dariela Porte and pulled on you know the Celestian Prophecies you know lots of different stuff so it's really a guide to help you navigate back to who you are I'm very much into no more boxes no more boundaries you know we all are the exact same at a soul level we are all connected but we have come here in different packages to express ourselves in different ways for the benefit of each other so the more this book enables you to do that, it doesn't tell you what you should be. It tells you how you, you know, it shows you how you can be.

So you do all kinds of readings. Can you tell our listeners about the different readings you offer? You have a lot of good stuff going on. So I use intuitive tarot to help people find the answers that are already in them so they would come to me for guidance about jobs relationships finances are just a general reading I offer mediumship readings which are readings where you connect

with loved ones in spirit so these really are for people who are I guess open to this kind of thing I mean I'm certainly not about you know telling people well there is life after death and spirit exists because I've seen them it's like you could believe it or you don't and so these are very specific readings and I love them these are one of my favorite readings and I get a lot out of that and I bring through information and evidence of loved ones who are in spirit. And then there's always some kind of healing message. So there's, you know, there'll be something going on in somebody's life where they need guidance. And then the other reading that I do, which I've done for you girls, is Soul Plan, which is an amazing intuitive system of life

purpose analysis that reconnects you with your soul blueprint and it's based on the premise that we are spiritual beings incarnating into this lifetime to expand and evolve and we have a plan of exactly what we're here to do when we are born and life and being a human being and being in society and having parents and peers knocks us off course and these readings help get you back on course they reconnect you back with the truths of your life and this is everything from your gifts and talents but also your challenges and your lessons and it is so accurate I love it so it's helping people remember who they are. Yes, that's the best way of describing it. But everybody experiences something different with them. You already know everything you need

to know in this lifetime, which is why you have sort of strange connections to things, people's places. Sometimes people have stuff that they just can't shake, but they cannot place it in this lifetime. So everything is already there. What a soul plan does, because we are working with energy, we're just bringing your energy back in alignment with your soul self. It's a sense of reconnection. So I call it a remembering. It's a reconnection.

It's kind of like an aha. You're like, of course, I now understand why. And it lets you see, particularly with challenges, because we're hell of course I now understand why and it lets you see particularly with challenges because we're hell of a good of ignoring the challenges you know we will pull the same people into our lives we'll go after the same guys or the same girls or you know find ourselves in repeating patterns and it's you know they get worse each time and what soul plan does is allow you to reconnect with the source of the challenge our challenges tend to appear when we're kids tend to be around about three four five when we really

start to have the first challenges in our lives and then they manifest in different ways throughout our life and soul plan reconnects us with that so that we can shift those blockages and start to embody and embrace all the talents and gifts that we've got to share so vicky can you share with us maybe mandy and i just the summary of mandy and i soul plans because i understand that usually the soul plan sessions are quite elaborate they're longer and there's a lot that goes into it yeah these are so i normally spend about an hour tuning in beforehand the chart is done based on on a Hebrew system of numerology. And for your listeners, if you're not familiar with it, each of the letters of the alphabet is assigned a different energy

and a different energetic vibration. And when we combine all the letters of your birth name, it sets off the energetic intention for this lifetime. So the first part of the reading is pulling together the chart and it's like a six star so two triangles an upward facing triangle and a downward triangle and you have worldly challenges worldly talents worldly goals and then there's spiritual challenges talents and goals and then this all culminates in your soul destiny so there's seven areas in your life that we look at in a full reading.

And a full reading normally takes between an hour and a half to two hours. But what I've done for you guys is just to pull your chart off. So let's have a look at mandate. When I look at your chart mandate, so there's seven different energy positions in your chart. And you have different numbers in each of those positions. So instantly when I look at your chart, for people who are listening, I have not Googled the girls. I have listened to some of their podcasts, so I've got an inkling about who they are and some of their story. But for this to work, it's definitely a less information is better.

But when I look at your chart, the first thing that I see is that there are a huge spread of numbers and different energies. So that makes you very capable. It means that you can turn your hand to absolutely anything. Nothing phases you. You're probably very good in business from an art, sporty, you know, good cook right across the board. But what that also means and the flip of that is that you will get scattered you will spread yourself too thin um and there will be periods of your life where you are all over the place the other thing from we've got all these talents and gifts and energies is that you can find yourself you know oh I'm gonna do this and then you can throw yourself at it and then you go nah I'm not interested in that oh I'm gonna try this oh this is brilliant no I don't like that I'm going to try something else so you

were probably the kid who was you know the parents like oh my god she's playing violin this week no she's skiing no she's going to do ballet so lots of different um avenues and paths to go down that can make you very capable but it can also means that it's you know you just wish you knew what you wanted to do and when you were young and you were deciding what the hell am I going to do with my life you'd be like oh I so wish these I was one of my friends who just she wants to be a doctor and that's it and so there's a flip to both the other thing that comes through in your chart and we're just going to briefly for example look at the worldly challenges now you were given the energies of service and healing. So it's not a

surprise that you are running a podcast about souls and you know, that kind of thing, because very much somebody who has healing energies running through them, and a strong spiritual connection. You've got this energy twice in your chart, really good sense of humor. So somebody who likes to laugh a lot, likes to laugh at themselves and will use humor to diffuse a situation and has a big smile. And I can see this obviously looking at you, big mouth, big smile, big lips. And you're kind of a happy kind of person. Somebody who loves helping people and very generous on the flip of that and this energy can be very emotional you can be very emotionally demanding on yourself and you can be emotionally demanding on other people so you will pull relationships and friendships to you where there's a strong emotional bond and it will pendulum one way or the other so you will hold all the emotional power and then the other person will hold all the emotional power so there's there will be an imbalance particularly in romantic relationships

when it's it's around this emotion somebody who's also very indecisive cannot make a decision and overthinks things tends to get too much in your head and over analyzes overthinks things um and somebody who is prone to procrastination somebody that puts up blocks consciously and unconsciously from moving forward and this energy is also somebody who's a peacemaker so you don't like an argument not to say that you haven't argued. It takes a lot to pull that out of you. But you will find yourself. And the thing with this peacemaker energy is that you can bring peace to a situation so you can see everybody's point of view and you will be a great connector at diffusing situations. Sometimes, though, the flip of that means that you can sometimes find yourself

in quite challenging dynamics so it may well have been when you were younger that there will be a lot of arguments and challenging dynamics in friendships and in the family dynamic and you would have been the type of person who wouldn't want to pick sides and would sit in the fence and try and keep the peace and try and make sure everybody you know was happy so you probably um find yourself um being very affected by society and you take on board the energy of society and the energy of people around about you not your own energy um you're also somebody who is a channel and you are very intuitive um and an excellent healer for you you need to find this balance between being in your head too much and overthinking things and getting back into your

gut instinct and the other thing that's just coming through is there's a bit of a perfectionism about you so you can be really critical in yourself um and and expect you know the very best of yourself but sometimes um the perfectionism is sometimes wrapped up in self-belief and self-worth so that if I can only do this that wee bit better and I'm going to be the absolute best at this um and you expect that of other people. And can be quite critical on yourself if things haven't worked out exactly as you want them to be. So that's just literally a scratch of the surface. Wow.

Yeah. Okay. I can't, I can't even believe that that's just a scratch of the surface because that was. Yeah. Yeah. Good scratch. Yeah.

Cool. Honestly, Soul Plan is, it's amazing. I love it. I had one done on myself when I was studying different sort of mystical arts and I had one done on myself. I went, oh my God, that's it. That's the one for me. So let's have a look at Shanna. Now, when I look at your chart, you also have seven different energies. So a lot of what I said at the beginning for Mandy, you will have connected with in terms of being very capable and spreading yourself too thin,

being a bit all over the place. The one thing that's amazing about these energies and having the variety of energy is that you can draw on all of the different energies to support you and help you. So you've got a really good toolkit. So like Mandy, not a lot phases you. You know, you can get pretty badly knocked and you know how to pick yourself back up again. And whether you do pick yourself back up or whether you choose not to, because there's learnings in there, there's a kind of innate sense within you that you know how to look after yourself. You know how to take care of yourself so you're resilient and the other thing that's coming through with you again also an excellent healer and so you've got same energies do you've got crossover of energies you and mandy which you tend to find

when you've got two people that are quite so closely connected and so what i'm going to do rather than repeat and i'm going to have a look at some of the other positions in the chart so that we can give you something different this energy um in your talents you as I said at the beginning tremendous inner strength um and probably and I I mean I can see I don't know how tall are, but you look like you're quite a fine, and I don't mean like fine. I mean, you know, like you're a delicate lady. You don't come across as somebody who's very tall.

So you would look to me as you're kind of somebody who's quite fine and quite slender. And people probably don't realize how strong you actually are. They don't give you credit for that. So if they don't know you, they would take a physical assessment of you and they wouldn't know the depth of strength that you have and you're very intelligent so somebody who has an innate intelligence but obviously but also likes

to stimulate that intelligence so somebody who wants to consume information and have more knowledge for themselves and for others so yes you take things at faith and face value but you'll also be really interested in the sort of workings of things you like both aspects somebody who is has a strong teaching and expressive quality so you are very communicative probably talk too much as a kid uh your school teachers will be like oh my god she talks too much when your parents had did a uh do you guys have parents night you know when your parents would go to school and have a chat with your teacher about how you're getting on and so they would probably say that um

santa talks too much yesterday i have to show you this um i'm gonna hold it up can you guys see this yes what does it say what it says one of the very first memories that I have here in Colorado is that my teacher told my mom I was a chatterbox. Yeah. I just read this yesterday morning. Okay. Well, you were a chatterbox. That's part of your energy. There you go. I've got goosebumps. So it's not a surprise that you're doing a podcast, but you've also got teaching abilities. So you don't just want to talk for talk's sake because you like the sound of your voice. you actually want to communicate to share this intelligent and emotional wisdom that you have gathered over life sometimes though it feels and again because this is a public space I don't go into anything too personal but it feels like

you've had something really tough has happened in life it's almost like a bit of a dark night of the soul you know so you would say you've been in the war so there's been an experience at a period of time where that was just not a great space for you um and it's made you restless you were probably very restless as a child you get you know a bit of wanderlust you might be the type of person who you know changes your clothes changes your style maybe likes to move about a bit and can't you know maybe has sort of I don't want to say commitment challenges but somebody who just has got itchy feet the other thing with this is um that you can find yourself stuck with sort of internal conflict so there will be ups and downs of mood there will be periods in your life where your mood has been up and down and there'll be

inner conflict. And sometimes, particularly when you were younger, you probably get stuck in sort of cultural beliefs. Does that make sense? Yeah, very much. Okay. Well, I'll leave it at that. I could go on.

No, wow. I'm just like, that's incredible. You got all that from my name yes you get it from your name so pretty much this this system was channeled by a guy many years ago called Frank Alper and it was channeled um from his guides and then it was updated um gosh I don't know 10 years ago or so and maybe more by a guy called blue marsden to be more sort of modern and more in line with you know our gender choices etc etc but yeah it's an ancient system of hebrew numerology and it's in the stars it's there so thank you for letting

me have a look oh my gosh thank you I mean I'm I'm almost speechless and then to mix that with mediumship I bet is so powerful I tend to and I always say this to clients before I work with them I don't want to call them skills or gifts I'm still you know all of my tools you know they merge in a full sole purpose session I spend about an hour as I said tuning in and that's when I really tune into the energy and open myself up and what everybody's different and and some people are open to this kind of thing some people are quite guarded and you guys will know this you know working with energy yourself that you know some people are like an open book and the information comes flooding in other people it's like oh my gosh I can just oh can't quite see so information comes through to

me whether it's messages from spirit and messages from soul that will either take people back to specific times in their life and in a full reading I mean it literally goes back so we talked about um you know Shannon for example um you know there were periods of your life where it was really difficult what would happen in a full reading is that I would actually be able to access that and tell you exactly what happened. I'd be able to describe to you what the scenario was, who was involved, when it was, how you felt. It kind of comes in, and I know Mandy, you're a medium as well. I don't know how your information comes in, but it comes in like, it's just my memory. I remember my memory, except it's not mine, it's yours, is the best way to memory except it's not mine it's yours is the best

way scribe it you know um go back to something we talked about earlier that I love a lot of times in life we're presented with our purpose but we don't know because we don't we don't do the soul work and we're young and you know for me I was all an ego but I was thinking about what you guys said and I've always known that I'm really good at talking. And that's my, that's my thing. Like anyone you meet will say that I'm always probably talking too much to be honest. So my throat is more, I need to learn to listen better, but it's always been the one thing. Even my little brother used to tell me like, you're good at communicating. So that purpose was always there, but it wasn't until I took the time, like you said, Vicky, to get into the feelings and get to know myself that I was able to align with that.

Absolutely. We are, as I said before, we are, you know, we live in a society where we are structured in a way that we understand, you know, we're human beings. We need to understand that this is a table. This is a laptop. This is a, you know, a pair of glasses, et cetera, et cetera. So we label everything. We come at our soul from a mind and body perspective. So we come at our soul and we understand our soul through our mind's comprehension of what our soul is rather than through our soul's comprehension of what our soul is. So naturally, when we talk about our purpose

and our life purpose, and people understand the concept of purpose and meaning it's a feeling but we still label it using our mind so if people are unsure of what their purpose is it's a feeling your purpose is a feeling it's what something makes you feel and that feeling will be different for everybody some people will want to serve so they could be healers doctors counselors some people that feeling will be a one of you know exhilaration so they are sports people and they you know skateboard or whatever it is so and again these are just ideas that come into my head so if you are searching for your purpose we have to first really take ourself out of our head lose any labels lose what your parents said you should be lose the structure that you came through school and just because you were good at geography and math then you should go down that avenue and one of the easiest ways to do that is to take yourself

back to when you were a kid what did you like doing when you were a kid? You know, what captures your imagination? You know, I wanted to be an actress, you know, and I was always putting on plays. So whilst I was painting and creating and drawing, I would put on plays. So in our bedroom, you know, I would take the duvet off the bed and I'd roll it onto the floor

and I'd make it look like a field. And then I'd take my stool and that would be a horse and I'd gallop across by the way anybody listening this was way before we had the internet you know we had to make our own entertainment back in the day however I was really expressing myself and my creativity you know and I was trying to communicate who I was through myself although at the time I didn't realize but that developed into somebody who wanted to be an actress so what does an actor or an actress do they communicate they connect with people they allow people to recognize in themselves what's going on in screen or they take themselves away they're storytellers so right the way throughout my life I wanted to tell stories so

it's not a surprise that I've written a book I'm telling a story it's not a surprise that I'm painting I'm telling a visual story so that the sort of the the truth is always there you just need to be less prescriptive about what it actually looks like and there is communication is your purpose but there's a million different ways you can communicate and there's a million different jobs and there's a million different ways you can communicate and there's a million different jobs and there's a million different ways you can earn money and sometimes our purpose does not mean that that's how we're going to earn a living you know you can live your purpose by smiling at everybody that you meet in the street you know and just by being light and and being the light for other people so the generation you know that's coming up just now that

are very much more open and very much more spiritual there's a definite and I could be wrong in this and I'm going to put my head on the parapet but from an outsider looking in you know on social media and listening and watching and reading there's a tremendous drive towards this purpose being a business and being a vehicle for earning money. And yes, it can. But sometimes your purpose isn't always a business. You know, your purpose is just to be the very best version of you.

Your purpose is to be your soul self and how that expresses itself. So it's not always a business. Thank you for saying that. Yes, because I think that some people think it needs to be like it's it's that important and big but sometimes business is not the most important thing no your job you have your business and you have your purpose and sometimes it aligns and so oh I love that and what's interesting is that I wanted to be a teacher when I was little so that aligns with my soul reading but I also used to pretend to be a teacher when I was little. So that aligns with my soul reading.

But I also used to pretend to be a mother. And so when I became a mother, I thought, oh, this is all I'm supposed to be in life. I'm supposed to just be a mother. I figured out my life at 20 something years old. I'm a mother. And that's what I thought I was just supposed to be. But you're never just somebody for everybody you know you have to still find your own and I was much more than a mother you have you have layers of yourself and

you have you know every year every month every day you're a different person yeah and you can change jobs I mean I'm now on my umpteenth career path you You know, Louise Hay is a prime example of age is no barrier to stepping into and onto your path. You know, I just encourage people not to wait till they're in their seventies. And it's not a waste of time. Everything that's happening to you is by you and for you. You picked every single experience,

the good, the bad, and the ugly. But there's so much beauty and so much joy and so much more peace can be found if you connect with your soul self earlier on in your life now not everybody's going to be on that journey and ultimately we need to to recognize that we are soul in a human body having a human experience and it's not about one or the other but what you want to do is to be able to flow between each of them so when you need to be in your mind you can do that when you need to be in your body you can do that but when you need to come at something from a soul perspective you can do that and at the moment we're all in the body and all in the mind we've spent so much time focusing on that aspect of ourselves that we've kind of neglected the soul

self and really that's all the stuff that we're doing in our mind and all the stuff that we're doing with our body is all to try and reconnect or feel better. Whereas if we just forgot all about that and went straight into the soul self, it's already there. And all the kind of mind and the body stuff becomes irrelevant. Your purpose is a feeling. For me, when I first started to sort of explore my spiritual path, not when I was younger, but when I had the experience with my papa, I had actually squished down my feelings so much that I had no idea what feeling felt like. I know what passion is in my head.

I understand what it means, but I have no idea what that feels like. What am I passionate about? And I'm trying to think, hey, when was the last time I felt passionate? And I was really gobsmacked by this. I know for a fact, I will not be the only person that's like this. We

confuse so many other things for feelings because we're scared to go there. So I would really encourage people to start exploring their feelings. And there's lots of really subtle, gentle ways that they can do it without allowing the floodgates to open. And one of them is to use your body. And Shanna, you work with the body, so you'll know this. You know, start use your body and Shanna you work with the body so you'll know this you know start using your body take your hand place it on your heart over your chest and I'll just move the camera down so you can see so you put it over your chest now obviously I'm a lady and I got boobs so there's going to be a gap here so there's going to be a space here so what you do is you take a few deep breaths in the same way that you would do when you meditate or you're trying to sort of practice mindfulness. But instead of focusing on your

breathing, just kind of relax and take a few breaths. But then you want to take your awareness to where your hand is on your chest. And then you want to start to feel what does it feel like having my hand press against my chest is it forceful is it delicate is my hand concaving in through my booby do's or is it concaving out do I feel my breasts on my wrist or if you're a guy your wrist has no pressure are all the fingertips feeling the same is the same pressure in all your fingertips or maybe your pinky is lighter against your body? Is the palm of your hand pressed against or just the ball of your hand? And then you want to feel, is there heat? Where is the heat? What does it then feel like on my chest? Can I feel the individual fingers pressing against my chest can I feel the individual fingers pressing against my chest or is it just a general sensation

so you really start to explore what feeling feels like and then when you're in that space and you're kind of aware of okay I can feel heat I can feel tingling my thumbs beginning to get numb and I can actually feel a tingling sensation moving from my hand up my wrists and then I think okay well my shoulders are a wee bit uncomfortable because I'm holding my elbow out so you start to explore the feelings and when you're in that space if you feel brave enough you can ask yourself you know and these are my words you use them in your words the universe doesn't listen to the words in question, it listens to the intention. So you can just say, okay, how am I feeling today? What do I feel like today? And if you want to take it one stage further, you could say, are there any feelings that I need to address today? What feelings are holding me back or like I did what does passion feel like to me

what does love feel like and then this you do this over a period of time you don't always do this in one sitting and when you feel more comfortable you can start to explore more challenging feelings you know but just trust what comes up trust the words that come out your mouth you know there is no right or wrong way and there's so many more people who are far more eloquent with their intentions than I am um you know but the universe does not listen to the fact that you've got this beautiful invocation and you know it's like even if you want to say mate what the fuck's up with me today? If that's how you speak and that's how you communicate, then that's going to work for you.

If that's not how you speak, then you just use your own language. So don't, you know, be guided by people on the internet and be guided by people that you listen to in podcasts. But use your own language, trust your own self. And that's a really good way to get into feelings and start to feel. And I work with clients with this and I always say to them I guarantee you if you allowed the floodgates to come out you know if and I'm talking if you've had a really difficult experience if you allow that well of emotion to come out you are lucky if you're going to get 90 seconds of full-on you You're never going to make 90 seconds. It's not, you know, you'll get 10 or 20. It doesn't last for 90 seconds. So we're sitting here going, I'm not touching that. I'm going to, you know, ignore that. I'm going to brush it under the carpet. Years later,

I'm now on this path where I'm comfort eating. I'm binge drinking. I'm taking drugs. I'm smoking. I'm blocking it out for 90 seconds worth of an emotion or a feeling that we don't want to address. 90 seconds, people, it does not make sense. Oh, my God. Vicky, you are special. I was just sitting here thinking the same thing. I feel like I'm a student right now. You are teaching us right now. So much wisdom. Thank you.

Oh, thank you. Like you, Shanna, my card said she talks too much. And my husband would be like, Vicky, stop talking. Beautiful. You're a teacher. You, Vicky, stop talking. Beautiful. You're a teacher. You're wise. You're a communicator. Do you have something that you feel like happened?

Is it blockage that you're not sure? Like it's traumatic. You're not sure you want to go back there. Do you think it's good to dig it up and surface it? I do. Everybody is different. So some people will need to have this in a space where I don't want to say a controlled environment, but they maybe want to do this in a space with a

counselor. But you remember, if you work with a counselor or therapist, it's for an hour, and then they'll send you home for two weeks to go and do some work on yourself. So they will guide you. And then you will go home and have to do the work. So even if you feel you need a counselor to support you, or a good friend, then have that. But 99% of the work is done on your own. But, and this is where the trust comes in. Our bodies are always trying to communicate with us and our bodies will never do anything knowingly to hurt or harm us. And even bad behaviours that we pick up, like if we do take drugs or we do abuse alcohol or we do any manner of all the things that we do to protect ourselves, you know, or to squash our feelings down, that's just

our body's protection mechanism, albeit slightly misplaced. And sometimes we end up with a piece of habitual behavior rather than the initial, well, I'm just going to down a bottle of wine tonight, block that out and I'll send myself off the next day and you know the problems become if that becomes a pattern so we have to trust that our bodies are only going to release what we are capable of handling at that point in time so if you don't intuitively trust, then you can say, I am ready to explore what needs to come up, but please only give me what I can handle today. And because again, the universe is not listening to the words, it's listening to the intention. There's this intelligence, a spiritual intelligence that will only allow us to kind of go through one thing at a time,

you know, when it comes to spiritual work, it won't be that big. Yes. And the other thing with spiritual intelligence is no such thing as time. When you have some really difficult experiences early on in life, that tends to be the path of somebody on a spiritual path from the get-go that's somebody that is here to serve because within that experience because spirit there's no such thing as a good or a bad experience we label it good and bad you know two people can experience the exact same things and come at it from a positive and a negative standpoint so spirit it's just an experience it's kind of likeh, because that's what you chose to go through

to evolve and develop and share and support other people in their ascension. So with that in mind, we often don't get the learning when we want it. So you have to be open for not putting a timeframe on it. You know, okay, I'm ready to address X, Y, and Z that happened in my childhood. So that's you started on the journey. And you just have to be open to allow the lessons to come up. And sometimes the lessons will come up as an understanding that comes out

through you. Other times, you will be guided to access that information by an external experience that could be ill health a job loss a relationship breakup any manner of experiences this is when we have to stop labeling everything and stop having an expectation about how this journey is going to be just take everything in the present moment and today and this is why it's always really good and a practice anyway aside gratitude is just to set the intention for the day what do I need to know today to have the best day what do I need to know today to grow

again my words put them in your words so you're always on an unfolding and a healing journey rather than waiting for it to all come out like a burst like a volcano in like divine timing when your soul is ready to deal

with it well and I think it could be like even of you know not even of this life and it almost feels it feels weird for me to say this but the truth is as I said before there's no such thing as a good or a bad experience from a soul's experience and each individual human came into their body and manifested the life that they are manifesting the good the bad and the ugly for their own ascension for their own growth and if something bad happens to you or somebody that you know they chose that and it may well be that they never fully understand you know that repressed memory sets them off on a path of, you know, a lifetime of bad behavior to other people. But we don't know the concentric circles and the offshoots that that person has and that behavior has.

So they might end up having a series of victims throughout the life. And we're just taking an example of somebody, know ends up being violent towards another person you know that person who's been a victim they might then take that experience embrace that experience and say well I'm gonna start helping other victims who's responsible for the helping of the other victims is it the person who was a victim who transformed that energy or was the perpetrator of the victim of the crime yeah right it's the whole journey it's the whole process and this is what you have to remember is that and I'm not condoning anybody that behaves badly towards another person of course I don't we're looking at it from the human perspective but we also have to appreciate it from the soul

perspective I'm not saying that it's right, but it's just how it is. Thank you for sharing that. I'm incredibly grateful for you. Thank you. I've learned so much today. My mind is like, I mean, I have like four pages of notes right now. Thank you. Thank you. And now it's time for break that shit down. So I want to tell your listeners that you are absolutely perfect as you are right now in this moment. And I want your listeners to embrace who they are, not who they think they should be, who they are at a soul level. And if they are confused about what that is, then I, you know, I would encourage you to explore using the feeling exercise to understand who you are at a soul level, because we do not need any more carbon copies of anyone else on this planet. We are all connected at a

soul level, but you were specifically brought into this lifetime to look the way you look, to love who you love, to feel how you feel, and to believe what you believe, and to express what you express, and to share your gifts and talents. And you cannot do that unless you fully embrace who you are at a soul level and you embrace the uniqueness of you, because we need every single unique person on this planet to help us evolve. I need you as much as you need me. We all need one another. So be individual, be unique and embrace that and fight against the box. Do not be put in a box, people. Punch out. I love it. And you tell our listeners where they can find your book, your website.

First of all, before I do any of that, thank you so much for the opportunity to be a guest on your podcast. I love what you are doing I think what you're doing is amazing and I think you have amazing guests so to even be included in the roster is fabulous so my sincere gratitude to both of you and thank you for allowing me to read your soul plan we are forever connected ladies we are forever connected ladies. We are forever connected. So I really appreciate that. And yeah, everything that you can find is on my website, vickypaul.com, V-I-C-K-Y-P-A-U-L, vickypaul.com. The book, the reading, the art, and I'm, you know, if people just want to connect with me, my social media is on there as well. So thank you very much for giving me the opportunity

to talk about what I do. Thank you. You blessed my day. I'll tell you what. Thank you. I have a great idea. I mean, I don't know if you'd be up to this. I wonder if we hosted a Zoom painting session with you. Oh my God, I'd love to. Yeah.

Fun. Absolutely. I would love to. How fun would that be? Oh my God, I'd love to do it. Totally. And we did it even in COVID when we couldn't go to the shops I got everybody and we used um shaving foam toothpaste and food coloring yeah you don't even need to have paints and canvas but I would I would be

I would be delighted to run a painting workshop seriously I would love that such a pleasure thank you so so much for the opportunity. I really appreciate it. Thanks for being with us today. We hope you will come back next week. If you like what you hear, don't forget to rate, like and subscribe. Thank you. We rise to lift you up. Thanks for listening.