Sense of Soul - Inspired Evolution With Amrit Sandhu

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

Today on Sense of Soul we have Amrit Sandhu he is an international speaker, a spiritually aligned living and purpose coach, host and founder of the Australian based podcast, Inspired Evolution. Growing up in a Sikh Indian family, Amrit was immersed in spirituality and the sacredness of life. His father, a sage in his own right, introduced him to profound mystical concepts, sparking a deep curiosity about the world and our place in it. His timeless wisdom nurtured his fascination with the intersection of science and spirituality. His mother, an indomitable entrepreneur, guided Amrit with her strength and drive. Together, their influences ignited his passion for Spiritual Entrepreneurship and living life on spiritually sovereign terms. Despite his academic success, Amrit found himself in a career misaligned with his soul’s purpose. Seven years of career misalignment followed, with mindfulness practices barely keeping me afloat. It wasn’t until he discovered his core values that he realized how out of alignment his life truly was. In his darkest hour, the Inspired Evolution podcast was born. Inspired by spiritual teachers, authors, entrepreneurs, and mystics, he explored how they lived abundantly and on their own terms. Their alignment with their soul's purpose became a guiding light for his own journey. He's had a profound transformation along his journey which he is now sharing with others and guiding them in their own transformations. Through his Inspired Evolution Podcast, Amrit has had the privilege of interviewing over 350 remarkable individuals, including CEOs, high-ranking military personnel, and celebrities. He had also spoken to audiences of up to 16,000 people. These experiences have opened doors to new opportunities and valuable partnerships. https://inspiredevolution.com https://www.amrit.coach/about Buy Shanna a coffee at www.senseofsoulpodcast.com

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and much more. Now go grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. It's time to awaken. Today on Sense of Soul, I have with us Amrit Sandhu. He is an international speaker and a spiritually aligned living and purpose coach. He is one of the founding premium coaches for Mindvalley and the host of one of my favorite podcasts, Inspired Evolution. Amrit has had the privilege of interviewing some of the most amazing people around the world. Amrit grew up in a Sikh Indian family. His father was a sage in his own right. He was immersed in spirituality and the sacredness of life. He sure has had a profound journey,

which today he's going to share with all of you. So please welcome Amrit. Thank you for coming on. And I'd love to just start off and learn a little bit about like little Amrit, you know, who are you growing up? You know, what was it like growing up in a Sikh family and having a father who was much like a sage? Yeah, it was a, it was a, it was a it was a it's very growing up Indian especially in a western culture yeah it was they were both very spiritual and both from different cultures so my mom Hindu my dad Sikh and both of them like their faith just being by nature of being Indian I guess in many ways culturally like religion isn't something that is you do on Sunday, you know, and that's not to sort of talk down, but like everything is

built upon the religious spiritual substrate. You know, it's like that is consciousness and everything is happening on consciousness. Like the metaphysical disposition of people from the, you know, Indian subcontinent is just, it's 101 for them. But then also growing up in a Western culture where, you know, many of my friends, their parents, some of them were like atheists or different, like Christian, Islamic or Baha'i, like, you know, all these different faiths. And it was like, oh, you know, this is your faith.

And I was like, oh, okay. So it was very interesting, even as a kid, sort of seeing all all the different colours that growing up in Australia afforded me. And then also, yeah, you know, just having a father who very metaphysically in tune, touch wood is probably one way I could say it, or an explorer for sure. And then, yeah, just the questions and the insights that he would share would just, it would be puzzling, you know, it'd be puzzling. And, you know, I was a young kid and he'd ask me things like, Amrit, why are you here?

And I'd be like, well, Dad, we live here. This is our home. And he's like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Why are you here? And I'd be like, hmm you know and you just spiral in on the question in and of itself and you just realize oh wow now i've got a three-year-old myself and i think i was about four when dad asked me that question first time it was and i'm just looking at my son and i was like would i throw him into the such an existential spin? Like, I'm not sure I would.

But, you know, I think it speaks volumes to his faith in, you know, what it means to be alive and the exploration and the seeking and, you know, and the learning and the growing that he was just like, yeah, this is his path. Let's cultivate, you know, like this is the fruit that's fallen from the tree and, you know, this is what he sought. That's what he saw fit ultimately. So yeah, really a very rich way to grow up as well.

I think the Indian culture has significantly deep roots in spirituality and music and food and art and lots of different things. So still Indian, still love good food. Arguably or inarguably the best cuisine on the planet. I know I've got a lot to fend off when it comes to Thai or Italian or Mexican there as well. But, yeah, look, there's a lot in there. Was his father Sikh as well?

Was this passed down? Was this something he adopted? No, so my dad was a Sikh, yeah. And so it's an interesting question that you ask in particular of me because my dad, yeah, and so his dad was a Sikh and his father was a Sikh and going back far enough because the Sikh faith is only about 400, 500 years young, my heritage was actually, so Sikhs being in India like 50 50 kind of not exactly

but Hindus and Muslims sort of coalesced to become Sikhs at that particular time because there's a lot of that's that's just what in geographically was going on in Punjab at the time and interestingly probably around when I was like 14 through to about long while there, 15 and 23, something like that. Like, so I grew up, I didn't really have a faith. Like I sort of, my father's faith was Sikh. My mom was Hindu. I was kind of Hindu Sikh. And then I went to a Christian school.

My mom would happily go pray at a mosque though, and she'd take me with her. And so, you know, and I had this fascination of the Buddhist culture so there's a lot of different and maybe that's just part of growing up in Australia is just so diverse but there was a lot of different faiths and cultures around and as I started becoming more and more academic it just sort of science became my religion to some degree and I was like I actually I think I'm I think I'm like agnostic, you know, and I might be atheist. Like I just stopped believing for a while there.

And I remember, you know, coming back and eventually like picking Sikhism as my faith, and we can talk more about where that decision came from, and speaking to my dad about it. And I was like, Dad, you know, there was a period of my life there where I didn't believe and he goes and I was like and I said I was like oh that must have been pretty like annoying for you you know like or it must have been like really frustrating like you believe you know and then you've got a son here who's like you know he goes no it didn't phase me at all and I was like really and he goes yeah because goes, no, it didn't faze me at all. And I was like, really?

And he goes, yeah, because it wasn't that you didn't believe. You were just asking all the right questions. And I love the way he shared that with me, actually giving people the space to have, you know, their own explorations, their own journey. And, you know, that could be seven years of asking questions and when they ever come back from, you know, like with the answer that you may want for that person, but just trusting in their path

and their journey, you know, touch wood. Oh, my God, I love that. And, yeah, so the secret for faith was I did feel like at some point I needed to pick a path. Why? That's a good question. If I reflect back, I think we live in a really beautiful time where I can wake up in the morning. I drink a bunch of tonic Chinese

herbalism. Like I love Ayurvedic tonic herbs and Chinese mushrooms. Like, so I'm like, that's my morning. I don't really do morning coffee, but that's how I'm morning coffee. Right. And so there's like yoga there, then there's meditation in there. And there's like just workouts from like, you know, that I'm copying from. Yeah. And it's just like all these different cultures, just even in my morning routine, just packed in, you know,

it's like India, China, it's like, you know, it's like America is like all these different things. I'm just looking at like where we are and it's like, it's such a blessed time to be alive where we can there's just so much interconnectivity and yet there's something to be said for the the deep pillars of wisdom that have cultivated like yoga didn't just pop out of the ether maybe it did but you know what i mean like it's been cultivated over thousands and thousands and thousands of years and so we are now living in a time where I almost see us on this, I don't want to say plateau, but like a platform that can dance across pillars of knowledge and

wisdom so gracefully that it's actually a really beautiful time to explore all of that. So for me, there was that awareness that, oh, there's probably a pillar that I sort of want to sink my roots into. And Sikhism seemed to be like an easy one for me to adopt given my disposition and what i mean by that the name seek just means learn learn and so my faith is to learn and so most and i like if i'm honest with you i'm gonna use the word new agey because of some people that has some negative connotations but i do think i'm a bit new agey like you know i'm just for me spirituality is everything and you know i'm here to learn and the universe is my teacher and guide and that's pretty much what sikhism says as well it's like yep our name for god is

is guru it's teacher so anything can teach you like staring at this camera long enough it'll start teaching me i'll start seeing god in it blade of grass you know if i humble myself enough to sort of understand what blade of grass is it's teaching me plenty of things about the nature of the universe so you know your teacher is anything that you're willing to learn from and so god is anything you're willing to learn from you can learn from everything god is everything and so you know there was just a lot of low-hanging fruits that were easy to sort of reconcile and a lot of low-hanging fruits that were easy to sort of reconcile and not least of all one of them being that yeah as a faith see because it doesn't say where the right path or where the wrong path it just says where a path which was

also really cool because i grew up with so many paths in and around me and some of them actually you know it's either this path or you're damned and that was a little bit harder to reconcile because I was like yeah but that person doesn't seem damned to me in fact they seem quite graced and so you know those were some of the parts that were a bit harder to reconcile and that's probably where I ended up a bit new agey and that's where Sikhism just it kind of it fell in really easily and that's not to sort of say I'm not, you know, pie in the sky about it either. Like Sikhism also has the luxury of in some ways of only being four,

500 years young, where some of these other faiths are like 2,000 years old. Right. And so in that, you know, it's, it was able to stand on a more modern thinking, even though it is 500 years from now sounds a long time ago, but it works for me. It works for me it works for me so i have to tell you i had a jan on which i love learning about all religions and

traditions and oh my god this guy had me laughing so hard when he told me there was 500 naked jans living in his city. You should have seen my face. It was priceless. I was like, what? It was one of the nicest people I've ever met in my life too. So what does your parents think about your journey now? Yeah, what do they think about your journey now? Yeah.

What do they think about my journey now? So interestingly, touch wood, they very supportive. I think we're aligned. It's interesting because as a Sikh, I don't really carry the hallmarks of a Sikh. Like I don't have the turban. I don't sport the beard, but for me, the ideology in this, yeah, is ever present in the cells of my being. But then some will argue that actually, yeah, like how do you do that without wearing a beard and a turban, you know? But my family is actually very supportive of me and by ways they're also like, oh, that's neither here nor there.

Like you are what you are in your heart you know so yeah i think family's very supportive what do they think of the inspired evolution hmm they think it's quite interesting that all the different conversations i'm having they're thinking that they think there's a lot of seeking in there like a lot of seeking of solutions which typical unions are like yeah and then at some point you're just going to come to rest in the realization that you are what you're seeking and i'm aware of that and i don't necessarily feel a lot of seeking energy as much anymore. Like I do think we're all seeking to some degree, but for me, it's my values are connection, contribution and celebration. And so it's interesting how the different values play out. But for me, the podcast is an opportunity to

connect with incredible people such as yourself, make an incredible contribution to the planet because even as a Sikh, a fundamental tenet of our faith is to live a life of service, right? And now how new agey is that, right? Like can I just live a life of service? It's like, yeah, that's what the Sikh faith says, right? And so I've just found an avenue where I can really serve and serve in a way that lights me up touch wood to serve and then celebration right like for me it's like all these different but like because people are someone said this and

someone else said that and you seem to agree with them but you also seem to agree with them it's like yeah it's such a celebration of ideas and they're like can you reconcile them and i'm like actually after having done this much work yes you know different things are applicable to different people at different stages of their journey doesn't mean one person's right or one person's wrong it's just where are you at you know on your particular journey so context is actually even more important than content but now I'm sounding like a philosopher so I'll stop I'm so with You know, recently I noticed something about myself that if I don't have a reason to do something, then I really procrastinate or I'm not very

motivated. And I mean, we're talking like simple stuff, like unless I am forced to rest sometimes, you know, I won't, right? I have to be forced to do these things. It is almost like I have to have a purpose to do something. And my journey has been around exposing truth. And I'm like, why is it always me that's having to, you know, tell everybody the truth about, you know, history or religion? Or I just find myself into these seeking truth journeys, I guess. I don't know what else to call them. These, you know, deep dives that lead me to discover something that has been hidden from us, maybe even intentionally for a millennia. And I feel like a total heretic.

My family, they're like, I feel like the word conspiracy really is just another word for truth nowadays. It's a very interesting space to be in one of my favorite words actually is that there's a podcast called this it's called a conspirituality have you have you heard of that like that no but that sounds amazing i really like that it's like conspirituality and yeah let's have the exploration here so because when you're on the on a spiritual path generally you start off you're seeking something and generally you're seeking deeper knowledge deeper wisdom more like higher truth or just truth in general with a capital t right and in there you'll start

to wade through what is called the Maya, but the illusion, like the illusory programs. Oh, like, you know, and a classy example of just how mundane these programs can be is I'm on a train, yeah, and I'm standing and there's a young man sitting there scrolling through his phone. An old lady walks onto the train. For me, my entire nervous system is now, oi, get up, oi, get up, to the point where eventually I'll be like, hey, excuse me, do you mind giving up your seat for the lady here?

Now that's because of the way I was raised and the way like and so that makes it sound like I'm righteous or like, you know, like some people will be tuning in and say like what good values in that young man now other people tune in and just be like dude like we're all equal like the old person can stand and the young person can sit you know I get caught out like sometimes I'm holding the door open for women and women like now have started some women are like I don't need you to do that for me and i'm just like oh yeah but chivalry is not dead you know and i like yeah and they're like yeah it kind of is and i'm like yeah and you're in this real weird like i'm trying to do something from a nice place my intentions are being interpreted as like

oh how chauvinistic you know and it's it's like this real and it's and it can be very difficult right but in there that just that just that's one small interaction yeah me standing on the train or me holding a door open where there's so many different interpretations interpretations right and there's meant to be like then we're not meant to have a homogenous unified field of interpretations otherwise we're all superfluous right we're all unique snowflakes we're fingerprints we're thumbprints like yeah we're consciousness experiencing itself right and no two of us are superfluous to the grand design of it all so we're all meant to be looking at it like when i was a meditation teacher still big part of what i do, people go, like, different ways to meditate.

And I'm like, if there's 8 billion of us, there's 8 billion different ways to meditate. Because meditation is the contemplation of the universe trying to realize itself through you. It's not going to realize itself the same way again and again and again and again and again. How boring for the universe. It created you completely unique to realize itself in a different vantage and viewpoint and perception and perspective, right? And so that to say, there is so many different programs that kick in. There are so many different like operating systems from other people that sort of come

in. And so when you're on this journey of seeking truth that you start to distill through and kind of go okay some of these stories are just stories whether i need to whether the young man needs to stand up on the train or whether he can stay sitting in the old person can just stand may just be cultural maybe it's cultural and maybe that's not a not a program that you know for me even as i say that out loud it's like how dare you say that out loud because but that's my culture that's the way i was raised right for me the young man needs to stand up the old lady can place her down you know like

that's just me it's like rubbing the cat the wrong way part of me's like you know until that happens but there's a future ahead where, you know, like I, I'll just hammer the point home. Like I was at a retreat and one of my dearest friends, he's, he's significantly older than I am. He's, he's 65. And we were, we were playing by the fire, our drums, and you meant to heat your drum by the fire. and I went to heat my drum and I'm heating my drum and I offered to take his drum and heat his for him and I did that and afterwards he came up and had a very long chat with me and he's like Amrit and so my heritage is Indian yeah so in India it's respect your elders like it's a hundred percent respect your elders like that is everything and so

afterwards he came up to me and his heritage is Irish and so for him he came out to me and he's heritage is irish and so for him he came up to me later and he was like amrit like what's your problem and i was like sorry and he goes i can hit my own drum like oh sorry i'm coming from a place of like you're you're my elder and you know like i just want to be of service and i'm just trying to do a nice thing and you know just showing you love kindness and respect and he goes oh that's very interesting because i had this whole narrative in me around oh here's a young buck thinking that he is the next generation and i was like what the and we just had this really amazing chat for hours upon cultural norms right and so that to sort of say when we're navigating through looking for truth truth is one of my favorite movies actually

and it's a very lame movie in some ways it's called i think it's called arrivals and just to sort of zoom out they send all these china australia russia America, a few of these big global superpowers, they all receive like this extraterrestrial like stone kind of thing land in their backyard. And they're all like, oh, what is this technology? It's a bit Transformers vibes and it's like, oh, what is this technology? We're going to try and understand it. It's a bit alien and maybe there's something going on.

Anyway, they try to like interpret it and they're all working collaboratively to try and decode what's going on. Anyway, they tried to like interpret it and they're all working collaboratively to try and decode what's going on until a certain point, like someone like turns off, like goes into radio silence. And then out of fear, everybody turns off their communications amongst each other. And they're like, okay, let's not, you know, like, and then everybody's like tightened up. Long story short, sorry for ruining the story, but nonetheless, the long story short sorry for ruining the story but nonetheless the long story

short was actually those were all separate nine separate parts of a piece of text right like a like a scripture but like which actually has the technology to help humans derive free energy and actually trends like to evolve from where they are to where they're going but in the wisdom of the people that sent it to earth right they intentionally split it into nine and split it into the nine world global dominant superpowers because they said they only really deserve this technology once they figure out how to work together together wow one of the really cool takeaways but in there it's also i every time i reflect on that movie for me

that's one of the biggest metaphors i've got for truth i'm not meant to have the whole truth you're not meant to have the whole truth none of us are how how grandiose but together which is why everyone espouses unity in a spiritual plane together we have the whole picture. Where the nine pieces of the tablet come together. Right? But individually, I'm meant to have my sliver of the truth. And it's a truth with a lowercase t. I can fight. And people are fighting for truth with like their truth is the big capital T.

The big capital T truth, I'm not going to argue with you, but in my belief system is that we all only have a little capital T truth, I'm not going to argue with you, but in my belief system is that we all only have a little capital T truth. Only unified as a whole does it come together as a big capital T truth. And so we can't really fight against each other to sort of be like, hey, my capital T truth versus your case. It's all little T truth. It's all little T truth. Back to the conspiracy.

What ends up happening is we're looking for big T truth. We confront a lot of our little T truths, and then we see a lot of society's little t truths and we end up in this real slippery space I find. So for me, it started with something as simple as I'm working really hard for my money. Where does money come from? It used to be backed by gold, no longer is. Okay, it's just numbers. The world is like, i think it's 700 trillion maybe even more maybe 7 000 trillion dollars in debt to who yeah that's kind of comical until you go oh but people actually take their lives over the dishonor and disrespect debt and it's like that's not funny anymore right and so then it starts getting into this really dark sort of work

like whoa whoa whoa so these stories are actually important and so you start there and you start to like and again you're seeking truth with a capital t but you keep bumping up against all these little truths and i do think it's a necessary part of everybody's evolution but i will go as far as saying i hit a point at a point in my journey where it became a bit challenging to continue unpacking what was me shaking off a truth that wasn't actually true by ways of that actually is a conspiracy. It's truth, like, dressed as conspiracy versus actual conspiracy. Like, at certain points points you can't tell the difference when you've been in that space for too long and that can be a very very treacherous place to be and it's and again i mentioned conspirituality because i think spiritual people

generally are more open by nature and i think more vulnerable by nature in some ways as well right and also to reject capital t truth from anybody's version of events and so aware of the little t truth conversation that sometimes they end up buying other little t truth when really their mission was to shed as many little t truths as possible on the journey of spirituality so you get hijacked by like what we call false light or whatever you want to call it it's like you get hijacked by like what we call false light or whatever you want to call it. It's like you got hijacked. The reason I bring that up is because I was in a pretty dark place

for like six to eight months there when I started to go down that logical path of looking for more truth, which is where I feel conspiracies lie. It's like it's a very logical path. It's not like the heart path to finding more truth. And neither of them is better or worse than the other, but there's treacherous parts to both of those. And they're meant to be there because they actually strengthen

your skill set, they strengthen your heart set, they strengthen your spiritual muscle down those journeys. But that to sort of say just be careful about conspiracies for me is one of the things I just put a massive asterisk on because there was a period there where I was so deep into it that I was so disempowered from my current state that I was trying to shed truth, but I was handing over so much of my power to certain conspiracies because of the amount of fear that I was feeling for being alive even. Yeah. I know what you're talking about.

That fear, I was just like, what? Surely I don't feel sovereign. I don't feel like this is my birthright. I'm just living in a fear state. And actually, fast forward, now I can look back and go, oh, that's how those conspiracy theories actually thrive. Talk about everything's energetic. They feed off the fear. Having that that fear carrying that fear is now actually feeding the thing that you're trying

to like be like hey this is really dangerous and it's like yeah but you're feeding it with the fear that's not to say don't be aware of it and neglect it but at the same time just be conscious of the energetic exchange that's happening in there as well, right? But would you not agree that really truth is your own personal experiences? One thing I asked myself at the beginning of my journey is how much of what I believe in had I just been told to believe? And of that, how much had I actually experienced to be my own truth. No one can take away your own experiences that you know to be true. And that's kind of my truth detector. Yeah. Yeah. And it's a great way to discern your way forward because ultimately, yeah, even there are some pitfalls that I totally agree with you. But if I conceptually regard

your statement, there's even pitfalls there because totally agree with you. But if I conceptually regard your statement, there's even pitfalls there because we end up with experiences based on our belief systems. True. Right. And so I'm going to end up with a particular experience. And oftentimes I see this a lot in the coaching work that I do is people inadvertently validate.

I'm not saying you do this, by the way, it sounds like I'm saying that, but I'm just painting a point is inadvertently end up I'm not saying you do this, by the way, it sounds like I'm saying that, but I'm just painting a point, is inadvertently end up enforcing and entrenching their current belief systems. They're not conscious that they're doing that. So our experiences inform, you know, it's like, oh,

something as mundane as, oh, I'm not very good at business. And so you don't do very well at business. But that was a belief system, right? So now your experience is also you're not very good at business and so you don't do very well at business but that was a belief right so now your experience is also I you're not very good at business it played not very good at business or is it just hey you didn't know what the very next step was that was the smallest step that you could take and actually if you're actually very good at taking very small steps in the right order you'd no one just gave you the right order and it's like oh okay I can do that step really well i'm

really good at that step i'm really good at that steps oh shit maybe i'm okay at business it's just a bunch of steps really right and now you've you know and so that's where just a little bit of a of a caveat but i totally agree it's the the closest reference point we have for our truth is our is our direct experience. Yes. Agreed. So wise. Gosh, how did you get so wise?

I enjoyed today. Maybe seven years of podcasting. You also have a pain to purpose story I've heard, you know, which a lot of us do. Most of us do, you know, our greatest challenges are usually our greatest teachers.

Yeah, definitely. And I've had two really big challenges in my life. The first one was I struggled with major depression for six years, and that brought me to mindfulness and meditation, and that was the gift that came from that big, big challenge. And then the second biggest challenge was seven years of career misalignment and then the gift from there was understanding my purpose my values importance of purpose for mental health for physical health for

vitality and that's you could argue at the heart of everything that I do now yeah helping people to their souls calling touchwood is driven by all of the challenges that I went through in those two periods you know i just recently i've been feeling like this transition coming on not that i'm bored of podcasting because i love having conversations like this but i have like the side passion that i mentioned already like the ancestry when i talk about it i light up i i like the ancestry. When I talk about it, I light up. I mean, I could go on and on about it. I'm super passionate about it. I think that I want to start, you know, doing more of that because that's, it lights me up. I feel like

that is where my purpose lies. Yeah. It's really awesome to feel into that. And the beautiful part about that is it seems like an emergence for you, right? So it's not something that you're like actively trying to go hunt down. It's like it's actually pushing up through you and you're just like, oh, what do I, how do I, but I'm already doing all this stuff. And it's like, ah, I just want to birth out of you already, please. And you're just like, okay this stuff and it's like ah i just want to birth out of you already please and you're just like okay i guess it's gonna and so emergence is like that is you know it's profound touchwood when that's happening because that's like soul first yeah your soul's

emanating this out through you for you and it's yeah it's just really cool when you have that vantage it makes it a lot easier to work in and around the soul and the purpose space when that's happening. And it has its own set of challenges. For some people it's like, I know I'm made for more, but I don't know what that is. For other people it's like, hey, I'm totally made for this and it's a soul thing.

But there's also these voices of the ancestors. And I'm like busy doing this i got shit to do you know and it's like and i'm into as well and it's like yeah yeah yeah totally you know and that's where it's a different set of challenges but you know and that's where it's a spiritual calling and some people don't get this but i'm just gonna to try at it. And that's where I find entrepreneurship is such a great spiritual vehicle. And people go, what? Like, what?

It's so 3D. But like all of a sudden, like you've got a sense of a soul. It's part of your purpose, right? And then you've got voices of the ancestors. I'm just calling it out for now, right? And that's part of your purpose, right? So now it's like, how do I honor both? And it's like your soul may just be communicating to you actually that you're ready to do both, but you need a bit of a team

around the sense of the soul thing so you just do like 10% of what you're currently doing so that you can focus on the bits that you're in the genius zone and you can support others in that space and unlock this whole other project. And who knows, 10 years from now, maybe you've got four or five different projects and that's you grew physically to be able to like actually support multiple families, earn a livelihood, help, you know, you stepped

into your leadership, your sovereignty. I'm not saying that's what you need to do, but, you know, this is kind of how it potentially goes. In terms of coaching and stuff like that, so if we were to sit here and unpack it, it's like, hey, sense of soul doesn't have to, like, you can totally grow something on the side to sense of soul. Sense of soul in and of itself could go through a pivot, you know, like you could start introducing some of those conversations around because you're already doing it. Or you could do a whole rebrand, right? And it could instead of sense of soul be like foot of your soul, right? Tell me if you find this with interviewing guests.

Whatever I'm going through, you know, usually either shows up just like synchronicity. You know, all of a sudden I'll be, I don't know, in a baking phase. And all of a sudden I'll have a spiritual baker on my podcast. Do you get this? This happens all the time with my podcast sometimes it's the other way around as well so sometimes what will happen is it's not just like I've been working on something and it'll show up sometimes a conversation will happen and I'm like that was a really weird conversation like I was in it and I got it but I just I don't know like

and this has probably happened like two or three times. Like, do I really want to launch that conversation into the world? Like, I just, I'm not sure. I like, okay. And then something will happen whereby it's like, you know, and this is whereby it's like, oh, that episode has to go out because you've actually got no other episodes up your sleeve at the moment. And it's like, oh, okay.

Guess that episode's gonna go out. It's what we've got. You know, we're working to a cadence and it's like, okay guess that episode's gonna go out it's what we've got you know we're working to a cadence and so I just wasn't 100 sure that's meant to go out and then it'll just be like yeah you know six people will contact me going oh my god this conversation here at this port me back off a ledge and I was like i've had the same thing and i was like really that one and then i'm just like what like ah okay and it's like and then i had to realize i'm only one part of my audience like i'm not full of my audience i don't get to make the judgment call right and so even sometimes with coaching as well like i'll have a conversation like a month earlier and then is like a bit of like oh that was pretty and then I'll be in coaching and I'm like, oh, that

conversation actually fits right here for this client. And this client probably was never going to get this conversation and then probably don't have the bandwidth to listen to the podcast or read any of the books that I had to read in preparation for the podcast. But all of that, boom, this is 45 minutes. Just for that one person. Yeah, bang. And it just unlocks a whole new paradigm for them, right? Touch wood.

So it's pretty troopy-dippy being in that space around information flow like that, wisdom flow, however you want to look at it. But yeah, totally resonate with what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Happens. That's so amazing. That's so true too because I've had where i was like oh god this is going to be like the worst episode and i literally have had people tell me that was their

favorite and i was like what are you sure like that one but you know it's it's all yeah everyone has a different perspective and and you know and they were super excited to see me in a different perspective and, you know, and they were super excited to see me in a different way. Sometimes in the most uncomfortable positions I've been in podcast, it's been because it made me very vulnerable too, right? And put me on the spot or something. In fact, there's a guy, Bodhi over in Australia, love this dude, but he really got me. I mean, and I was shocked. I mean, it almost turned into like a therapy session about me and I was very vulnerable and I put it all out there now, but it hasn't always been my most comfortable space. And he was really pulling stuff out of me. And I was like, like yeah it's one of the things about growing

up you don't tell people your business like telling people your business is is vulnerable and it is not a good thing like sharing your hardship sharing things that about your family even i mean you don't tell people your business And so that was something I really had to push through, through this journey, especially podcasting, and realizing that that is what connects us. There's a rub in there, I believe, because we've all met also people who are sharing their story and I won't mince words, a narcissistic place and that's definitely

not you and i've i've tuned into some of your episodes like that's not you right and so i think that's where intention makes all the difference in the world you know so like when you're sharing like what's coming up from you from trying to be vulnerable you're aware that the more vulnerable you can be the greater the shift yeah for the other person that's tuning in and actually what you're bucking up against is guilt is shame and all these things that you know are programs that you know potentially carry their own wounding on top of the wound itself right and so it's like vulnerability can really heal here i'm gonna give it a shot. Yeah.

Because as I heal and transform, like you said, we're all connected. It connects us and it heals us collectively. Touch wood. It's very beautiful as a mechanism. And so in there, it's pretty interesting though that, yeah, the same mechanism, which is like, oh yeah, I'm just going to share openly what's happening for me. And then just sharing and sharing. And someone kind of goes, oh, but this is all just this person wanting to be heard for their own grandiosity. Do you know what I mean? And so, and I'm pleased by no means by saying that's what you do, but there's a rub in there, right? Which is really interesting because it's like, it just reminds us of how important intention is. Like I think getting vulnerable is important

so that we can support each other in getting to where we're going, right? And so the intention is like, hey, I'm willing to be vulnerable to share because I believe not just what I'm about to share is going to help you but because it's uncomfortable even just for me to go there. And I'm trusting that that discomfort actually is transformative in and of its own right. And so let's give that a crack. And I'm hoping that that'll give you some courage down the line to step into places where things might be locked within you, right?

And again, the intention is very like is impregnated in service right now i'm conscious obviously that's my makeup because i'm connection contribution celebration so contribution is very much home for me not everybody will come from it that way right but those are my core values connection contribution celebration yeah yeah but what is the celebration part tell me about that yeah great question touchwood so celebration is? Tell me about that. Yeah, great question. Touch wood. So celebration is actually for me it's health and vitality. I'm hearing celebrate.

Hey, good day. Yeah. Totally, right? And so like when you're on the dance floor, like for me, celebration is like dance floor vibes, yeah, like you're celebrating. And when you're on the dance floor, it's like you're up, you're standing, you're dancing. It's like you ate well that day, like you're doing your things,

like you're hydrated. And you just, it's a party, right? It's an absolute party. And so for me, the picture of vitality is celebration. And that's just what it is in my mind and my heart. And everybody will have their, and this is the key thing, when I teach people how to discover their values just because like so contribution for me is purpose celebration for me is health yeah and connection for me is divinity but connection to me means connection to community connection to friends connection to self connection

to god it can mean so many things that one word means a connection right it means everything to me and so contribution it's like yes i want to live a life of service it's spirituality yeah but it's also purpose because it's like i know that if we're serving others then you know my passion is for me my purpose is my passion serve to others right and so that's your purpose and so it's like okay i want to live a life of meaning i want to live a life of purpose that's contribution celebration for me is health and vitality now for some people celebration means something very different it's like okay we're going to go out and you know i don't want to say vegas is a debaucherous place but you know maybe

they're just like they go to vegas doing a whole bunch of stuff and it's like that was not your health right and it's like it's fine that's what celebration means to you celebration to me means something completely different it's like an honoring of life honoring of what is sacred it's a celebration of what is sacred right and so for me that is like honoring the body temple to the nth degree in some ways right and that makes it sound like i don't do debaucherous things i still go out have a drink every now and then touch wood, right? I've got friends. I'm not an ascetic. But yeah, you know, there's that. And so celebration for me is the fullest expression of life being lived in and of its own moment, right? You know, I heard one time from this man, I was in a cacao ceremony. He was from Puerto Rico, a shaman. And he said, we celebrate our first death when we leave

our mother's breast of course as a transition as you move on to the next thing and it should be celebrated that all things that come to an end should be celebrated yeah so the way part of me is let's be open part of me is challenged, but it's not resonating is my truth, which is a really great sharing here because you're right, for most people celebration comes at the end. For me, the dream is not to be outcome-oriented but to be process-oriented and it's like health is not an outcome. Health is the substrate which we live on right so celebration is the substrate on which we live on it's like how can there be

more celebration in and around the process of everything we do which is why i coach right so if people can celebrate and live life fuller in every way every day you know so it's not just like oh yeah like here's a life that you can finally celebrate at your deathbed oh that's that's not really actually a mission accomplished it's how does like life feel like a celebration every day like every moment it's like obviously it's not always going to feel like that but nonetheless it's like that's what lights me up is like how can we celebrate life right and celebrate life yeah it's it's not so much oh yeah i'm going through like oh yeah i got to the end of something and i'm going to celebrate that i got to the end of it and that's shown up again using entrepreneurship as a bit of a thing like

one of my early mentors you said oh just be very careful because with business, because if you start tying your celebrations or your, like, your joy to outcomes, business becomes a really dark place. So, like, it's like, oh, yeah, like, I'll be happy when the channel hits 100,000 subscribers or I'll be happy when the channel gets a million subscribers or I'll be happy when, you know, we're making, I don't know, $50,000 a month or I'll be happy when we're doing this or I'll be happy when, you know, we're making, I don't know, $50,000 a month or I'll be happy when we're doing this or I'll be happy when we're doing that. Okay. You pursue, pursue, pursue. You might potentially burn yourself out on the pursuit and then you get there and then

you realize, oh, that wasn't it. So you run it again and then you go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, aiming to celebrate when you finally get there and you'll get there and you like celebration will last for like five minutes, maybe five days. And so that was like the coaching around. Don't be outcome oriented, be process oriented. Okay. So come back to the process. And it's like the more you can attach yourself to the process.

So what is the process in something like podcasting? Let's take that as an example. I just need to have an incredible conversation and I can celebrate life by honoring the conversation to the best of my ability. And as long as I'm having a really good connection, hopefully the contribution is present in the conversation, but this conversation is a celebration, right?

If I can just really step into my values in the conversation, I'm conscious I'm talking about my values. Anybody that wants to go discover their values, inspiredevolution.com forward slash values. 20 minutes from now, you'll be just as clear as I am on your values as I am on mine. Inspiredevolution.com forward slash values. But yeah, the key thing in there is those are my values and living into those, like for me, is the process, right? And that's, again, where values are so important

because I'm not now out there seeking something that's not mine. I know who I am. I know what I value, right? So I value connection. I value contribution. I value celebration. So what do I do? I podcast.

There's a lot of connection. There's a lot of contribution. There's a lot of celebration. I coach. There's a lot of connection. There's a lot of contribution. There's a lot of celebration. I public speak. There's a lot of connection. There's a lot of contribution. There's a lot of celebration. I public speak, there's a lot of connection.

There's a lot of contribution. There's a lot of celebration. So again, right, like I've architected my life, picked career directions, made decisions based on things that enable me to, yes, do more of what I love, but also be more of who I am. Connection, contribution, celebration is present in all these things, right?

Like you've been to an event and people are like talking and jumping up and down and singing. It's like, oh, my God. And it's like it's celebratory vibes, right? So I'm being more of who I am in what I'm doing for the world. And that's the value that the world gets from me as well, right? And it's what I value out of the world as well. It's so – it's perfect, right?

Celebration part is always missing because I think that I do look every day for opportunities for celebration. I may not call it celebration, but, you know, even just, hey, got here on time. I'm here. You know what I mean? I celebrate that. You know what I mean?

We're so hard on ourselves. Frequently. Frequently. It's the condition of the human condition. Sometimes I ask the question of my coaching clients, like I try to make coaching the most empowering space it can be for an individual. And this is probably the most disempowering thing I dare say if understood incorrectly. But I do share it from a place to call someone back into their power if i'm honest which is did you ever stand a chance and sometimes we go what did you ever stand a chance and it's like yeah like you've got all this negative self-talk going on i remember like i used to live in the city in melbourne Now I live in suburbia. But when I was living in the city, there was a massive billboard of like,

you know, this guy and this girl. Like the billboard's huge, yeah, at the main railway station. And the guy's got like an eight-pack and the chick was like airbrushed to the end of the street. And I'm like in like a kilometre radius, there's maybe like five people that look like that, yeah? Right, yeah. like in like a kilometer radius there's maybe like five people that look like that yeah right yeah what's like beaming down on you is like the standard of beauty and so you're walking past this you're just i don't know like having a having a sip of water or drinking your

milkshake and you're like and you're like oh that i don't look like that so i need to and then you go home and you're like running this oh i don't look like that i don't i'm not good enough i'm not good enough i'm not good enough and it's like did you see the chance when like so many market forces out to get you you know i don't want to say it that way but you know what i mean like in some ways it's like did you stand a chance and it's it can sound disempowering but the intentionality behind there is to go okay those are all negative self-thoughts, but those aren't your own programs. Yeah. Society, consumerism is, runs rampant really effectively if you're off your center and you don't know what your values are.

You don't know who you are at your core. And so it's like, oh, I don't know that I'm connection, contribution, celebration. Those are things that will make me happy. Maybe I'm BMW. Maybe I'm this next thing. Maybe I'm this house. Maybe i'm this house maybe i'm this holiday right now i'm not saying like a holiday matters to me because i get to connect i get to celebrate it's beautiful for me right but if i'm just chasing stuff for the sake of chasing stuff because it's what's being programmed in it's so easy to sell and someone's making money on the

other side of that and i'm working really hard to make the money but i'm not really sure who I am and why I'm doing that. You talked about, you're really important to understand a reason and a purpose. This is where, you know, understanding who you really are can be so, so helpful. Back to your point about, I think there's not enough celebration. It's interesting you say that because remembering again, celebration to me means health. And I do, it's with a heavy heart that it's like actually i think she's right you know like so many people they say like you know health is the crown on the on the head of the person that you know doesn't know that they're actually wearing that crown until it gets knocked off touch wood and so it's such a blessing you know

that we have health um and yet we're chasing all these other things a blessing, you know, that we have health. And yet we're chasing all these other things. But, yeah, nonetheless, you know, it's like, yeah, maybe she's right. Maybe society doesn't prioritize their health the way that it could. Maybe the society doesn't celebrate the way life and honor it the way that it could. Oh, I mean, I'm at the point where I just had this guy on not too long ago his book is called political gut i'm like man we need to wake up to what we're reading but you know and speaking of that you've interviewed many many guests i am sure that it's hard to choose a favorite author but

have you been able to like interview your favorite authors? Yeah, it is very difficult to choose. One of my favorite books of all time is Shantaram, which is a fiction novel by Gregory David Roberts. And I think we've had him on twice. So yes. But then, yeah, there's always teachers that are like hungry to have onto the podcast just for the yeah there's so many conversations i really want to have a conversation with sad guru i really want to have a conversation

with eckhart tolle on the podcast i really want a conversation with jordan peterson as well there's some really interesting bits in his work around the big five personality types that i think is really helpful yeah yeah yeah there's There's, there's, yeah, there's always going to be people. And I'm sure once I've interviewed those people, there's going to be, you know, new pockets and portals from there. That's, that's my curiosity around the podcast. It's yeah. Right. Oh, you want to hear something funny I did? I love that book. Man's Search for Meaning, you know, Viktor Frankl. Okay, I'm not, I'm just throwing myself out there. I was like, dude, I gotta get this guy on my podcast. Bit late.

I'm like, oh, maybe someone can channel him or something, but yeah, oops. Yeah, it's, yeah. And that's actually hard. Like one of the people, yeah, like actually that might be rude to say that out loud, but there are people that are currently on my dream guest list. There's three of them actively that I can rattle off that are like, they're quite old now. And I'm like, man, I really hope I get the chance to have that conversation. Touch wood, I really don't hope anything happens to these people when they're around

forever. I know. I really want to have that conversation. I'm not going to ask you like, you know, what was your favorite episode you've ever done? Cause I know that that's so hard. I hate when people ask me that. I'm like,

I don't know. And I don't hate it. My brain goes into like paralysis by analysis i'm the same way but i will ask you this because maybe this will stick out to you more like do you have any episodes that you were shocked you know like something was mind-blowing or something stood out where you were just like telling your family your friends you're like you guys gotta listen to this you're never gonna believe this oh there's been a few and especially recently robert edward grant was one of them when he was

talking to me about the paintings of christ's last supper and how actually a lot of what was on the walls in that painting are actually on the walls in the Egyptian sarcophaguses and he was having revelations in the middle of our podcast he was going through his footage and he was researching stuff and he was like oh I just oh my god I just felt oh and look at this and this and I was like oh my god i'm seeing it like what and he was like and i was like whoa like yes so that was that was so good whoa like whoa mind-blowing that whole i mean that whole episode well almost all of your episodes but yes i would agree with you that was it was robert j gilbert came on recently that also stood out to me quite a bit because he was talking about different spiritual pitfalls. And that was really helpful. But not least of all, because I just when someone unlocks something new and it's like so clear, it's like, oh, that'll you know, that that that distillation is just so one of them.

There's many of them, there's many of them, but one of the ones he shared was in modern mythology we conflate satanic forces with luciferic forces, right, Touchwood, and my podcast is not always about like dark stuff, guys, but Touchwood just, but this was one of the takeaways. He talked about

satanic forces are forces actually that are of the, like they're more earthbound forces that try to basically, if you're feeling like, oh, spirituality is not a thing, humanity is not spiritual, there's nothing spiritual about humans, that is a satanic frequency. But then there's also other forces, which is like the,

this is not the way, but anyway, the cheesecake is the way to heaven, right? I need a better example. But like false light. And I want cheesecake. False light. I love cheesecake. That's the one that came to me. But yeah, you know, there's like false light.

And then he goes in current culture, we've like Satan and Lucifer is used interchangeably, but actually they're different forces, and it's really important to recognize that because if you understand the different nature, you can understand the different pitfalls. So certain things will be pulling you towards the light of God, and knowing that you're seeking the light of God will try to veer you off into their own direction. That's a different pitfall to feeling like, oh, there isn't a God at all.

That's a different pitfall once again, right? But if you can fake Lucifer and Satan, then you just, oh, I've got spiritual challenges. But what is the nature of the spiritual challenge? Are you following, are you easily led astray? Touch wood. Are you like, do you easily led astray? Touch wood. Are you like, do you, do you find it difficult to believe like, you know, and then understanding. So that was Robert J. Gilbert was really interesting. That's why I love, I love, I love what I do.

I love what you do because you can hear, you know, all these things and it makes you think, right. You're like, wow, I never saw it this way. I never thought about this way and get a little curious which i think we all should be should be more curious yeah i think curiosity actually the book i'm writing is called meta flow it comes out at the end of the year and the the opening chapter is sacred curiosity oh i love that well i'm writing a book too and it's called desperately seeking sophia which sophia means wisdom in greek yeah yeah i love that i love that

but you know you know what i wanted to ask you a question a question that i don't ask a lot of people but the people i've i mean you should hear neil donald Walsh's answer to the question that I'm going to ask you. Oh, my God. But, you know, I asked you who you were as a little boy. And now I just I want to know, how would you describe your soul? There's only a word that's sort of echoing around, which is infinite. And I'm conscious that that is not very descriptive because for the human mind, infinite is not something we can grasp.

So if I had to continue to unpack it with more words, I guess it, yeah, I think it's indescribable. And I know that's such a get out of jail free card, Amrit, you can't go there, but I just did. Sorry, these are the games I play with my little three-year-old at the moment. I'm not conscious of the games i'm playing but yeah it's yeah it it does truly feel indescribable but it's so perfect because i'm on a podcast called sense of soul i i don't think it's ineffable like i do think we can actually experience like a tasted sense of it right

so it's like oh yeah there's that thing i can feel it you know I can feel it and yet it's infinite and it's like so hard to grasp like conceptually with your mind it's interesting because also the nature of soul is something that continues to despite the years I've been putting into this work I often contemplate the edge of one's soul. And I just, because it's infinite, it's just like, I'm not sure there's an edge to one's soul, but then it's like, then there's like, we all identify with a soul as our soul, but then I'm sure that all the souls collectively, like,

have like an over soul or like a connected, like there's a connectedness amongst it. So there must be edges to each individual soul, but infinity doesn't have an edge. And so maybe we all share a soul and it's like, wait, like that doesn't make sense either. And so again, in order to try and describe it to you, I'm just coming up with ways that I can't describe it.

Does that make sense? Which is a beautiful place because for me, that's when I sort of start well I start to I've had to now start to realize especially being in spiritual and personal development for this long that contradictions only live in the mind you know in the mind it's always this or that it's like you know infinite can't have an edge that's such a mental concept yeah in the capital t truth land why not like it's like the fact that i'm sitting here and even having a conversation or even alive is like such a mystery right and that you're there listening and then we're like and everyone here is listening in is like, what is actually going on? Consciousness is, I was watching a conversation between Elon Musk and

Jordan Peterson, you know, and like, this is entrepreneur and behavioral psychologist 101 and even midway through the conversation, I'm just like, does anybody listen to the stuff that people say like, is it always just tuned into that, or I feel like this phrase was just said for me, Elon Musk of all people turns around to Jordan Peterson goes. Yeah. just tuned into that or I feel like this phrase was just said for me Elon Musk of all people turns around to Jordan Peterson goes yeah so given the big bang and everything turns out if you leave hydrogen in the sun out in the sun long enough it starts talking to itself and I'm like did you just unpack consciousness back to first principles Mr. Entrepreneur Engineer

and I was just like did anybody hear that sentence? Did anybody hear what he just said? It's just, yeah. So that to say, like, the limitations, the expanse, I don't think soul has limitations. I don't think the expanse has a boundary. And yet each one of us seems to identify with a personal sense of soul which is pretty remarkable like if i was to say to you right now shana you and i share a soul

you'd be like well well well well well well well well well well that doesn't land like capital t truth in my felt sense of being and it's like okay so you've got your soul i've got my soul interesting and that seems to land more comfortably in our beings. And yet we're all completely interconnected. And yet we can both identify that probably our soul is infinite and boundless. So it's like, but then where does it all? So, yeah. I'm getting this.

I have to read you this. I don't know if I ever read it on the podcast before. So this is a Gnostic gospel that they found thunder. Perfect mind. Have you ever heard of it? No. So this was in the Nagamati in the codex. So it says, I am the whore and the Holy one.

I am the wife and the Virgin. I am the mother and the daughter. I am the members of my mother. I am the barren one. And many are her sons. I am whose wedding is great, but yet I have not taken a husband. I am the midwife and she who does not bear. I am the soulless of my labor pains. I am the bride and the bridegroom, and it is my husband who begot me. I am the mother of my father and the

sister of my husband, and he is my offspring offspring it's interesting because there's a lot of interrelations a lot of contradictions and a lot of yeah there's a lot in there there's a lot in there that's why i'd be digging those gnostic gospels yeah yeah yeah yeah it's a good one. Thunder perfect mind. I feel like those are, yeah. Thunder perfect mind. So sometimes I feel like those are like koans, right? Just there to challenge our sensibilities so we can break free from them. Yeah. Big time. Yeah. Thank you for sharing. Yeah. Thank you for sharing and thanks for coming on. I really have enjoyed this conversation.

Like I said, I love your podcast, so it was really great to meet you. And I appreciate you having on all amazing people. Yeah, well, thank you so much for having me on. You've got an incredible podcast yourself and love the name since you're so inspired for what's emerging in your evolution with, yeah, Voices of the ancestors and security when it comes and emerges and and goes and yeah as a gift for your listeners if they they want to discover their values like i said inspiredevolution.com forward slash values

yeah you guys could 20 minutes from now you'll be as like so much of you know we've talked about programs and yeah understanding your true core self and how not to be centered in around all of that yeah it's it's really like the way i say it usually when i do the trainings is like the pillar of the temple that is you are your core values right and you can just really 20 minutes and like you listen to a podcast for an hour 20 minutes from now it's a quick master class and you'll have your values, your core values, and you'll be as clear as I am. Connection, contribution, celebration. I'm curious to know what you are. Feel free to email me. Yeah, me too.

Amritinspiredevolution.com. Let me know. It's like, hey, I did it and this is who I am. Yeah, I'm going to. Just your website, inspiredevolution.com. Inspiredevolution.com forward slash values. You can even go to amrit.coach forward slash values, all roads lead to Rome. But yeah, inspiredevolution.com forward slash values. You can even go to Amrit.coach forward slash values. All roads lead to Rome. But yeah, InspiredEvolution.com forward slash values seems to be the easy one or Amrit.coach forward slash values as well. Yeah. Thanks so much.

I really appreciate you. It's been so fun. What time is it over in Australia right now? It's almost 10 a.m. Yeah. Oh, God. Wait, and you've already done three. Wait, what time did you wake up?

Five. Oh, well, I celebrate you for sure for that. Amazing. It's it's yeah. The process, right? Like back when we were speaking to like, yeah, getting up and it's like doing the things, making monotonics, bit of a workout and then afterwards it's like a bit like oh getting up early today but then you know you get into the swing event you're in the conversation it's like ah the process

yeah I love this process I love it too it's kind of like what you said it's it's when you're aligned with your purpose it's fun and it's you know it lights you up yeah my coach too to be honest and I've had some really incredible mentors along my way to be able to support that for me and so it's just an absolute gift and an honor to be able to help others do the same for them and i think that's where the whole coaching practice amra.coach as the website really lives and what it tries to help people with is yeah yeah just helping them chart their way into this holding with such grace touch wood well thank you thank you for doing that for you know i always feel like you know if i receive something i know

it's not just for me you know never just for me yeah i mean it's for me but it's never just for me you know one of my best friends has this saying where he goes I know something's really special if I can't contain it to just myself have you tried this cheesecake it's like oh it's so good you gotta try some it's like great no family but it's like no but I need somebody to understand you're my cheesecake tonight because I can't wait to share you. Touch wood. That is the highest praise I have received. Such a fan of your work and not just what you do, the way you do it. Such a pleasure and honor

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