Sense of Soul - Living 300 Years Old and Beyond

Episode Date: February 3, 2023

Today on Sense of Soul Podcast is Dr. Muzhi Shi, he is a world-class scientist with ample experience in different branches of life sciences. During his extensive career, he has been studying the mechanisms of life. Ever since he started, Dr. Shi was fascinated with mechanisms that can prolong the human lifespan. Through his work, he constantly explored the possibilities to make that happen, and now through his books, Dr. Shi aims to bring that information and answers to common readers that are too intrigued by the same questions. Dr. Shi is now cofounding a biotechnology company with several other world-renowned scientists. He joined Shanna to talk about his book How to Rejuvenate and Live Three Hundred Years and Beyond. Dr. Shi evaluates current technologies to select essential tools for such a grand goal and offers a unique view of trendy dietary supplements, longevity pills and other biotechnologies - and, most importantly, he answers some of the essential questions about life and death that everyone is curious about. Is it possible to live forever? Is immortality within reach of science and scientific breakthroughs? How to Rejuvenate and Live Three Hundred Years and Beyond?  Dr. Muzhi Shi discloses through philosophical discourse his systematic blueprint for living beyond today's human lifespan, illustrating the great potential of state-of-the-art technologies from an insider's perspective. Check out his website and order his book: https://300yearolds.com Visit Sense of Soul at www.mysenseofsoul.com Do you want Ad Free episodes? Join our Sense of Soul Patreon, our community of seekers and lightworkers. Also recieve 50% off of Shanna’s Soul Immersion experience as a Patreon member, monthly Sacred circles, Shanna’s mini series The Allegory of thhe Divine Goddess of Wisdom, Sense of Soul merch and more. https://www.patreon.com/senseofsoul Thank you to our Sponsor  KACHAVA, Use this link for 10% off! www.kachava.com/senseofsoul 


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Check out our Patreon. Today we have with us Dr. Muzi Shee. He is a world-class scientist with ample experience in different branches of life sciences. Ever since he started, Dr. Shi was fascinated with the mechanisms that can prolong the human lifespan. And through his work, he constantly explored the possibilities to make this happen. And today he's joining us to tell us about his new book, How to Rejuvenate and Live 300 Years and Beyond. Is it possible to live forever? Well, let's ask him.

Hello. Thanks for being with us. Nice to meet you, Shannon. Yes, you too. Where are you located? I am in Colorado. Oh, nice. Nice.

Yeah. Where are you at? I'm in like North Carolina. Okay. Thank you so much for coming on this is a topic that who doesn't think about stuff like this yeah for sure sitting around thinking i wonder how long i can live yes yeah so how did you get into this that's a very good question so i mean i really get into this when i was like you know conducting my phd at one of the top medical school and i met this like super cool guy who then become my working partner he had developed a novel dna delivery tool which is just like sending like dna to different

cells so we think whoa that's so cool can use it to like cure disease and other things so we're thinking about like what's the best like disease model so for us to target on and then at that time we're thinking well you know like we want something big so about big disease what's the like biggest disease that everybody will die for unfortunately that is a aging right so we were thinking, well, you know, like probably that's the signal of interest. And we were really thinking about like how to find a cure or not find a cure, find a workaround, so to extend life. So that's the real like origination of this book is like, since we have this great tool, we think about how to use it. Both of us were thinking about like, we want to

live longer, right? So to solve our own problem, we need to think about, well, you know, there's something that's valid, it's doable, it's achievable. So we're really think hard and deep, of course, for others, but also for ourselves, because we want to solve our own problem, because we're getting older and older. So we're thinking, well, you know, what's the best way to, you know, like, expand our lifespan? And whether it's achievable, what are the scientific foundations for it? And what we need to achieve to get to live longer? Yeah, basically. My daughter just asked me this last night, and she's 10. She said, said mom wonder if oxygen is just poisonous to us is bad for us and it takes a hundred years for it to kill us that's a very good question well i mean basically you can

change oxygen to water and become the same question right so yeah but actually you know that's a very interesting topic so you know that if we or an animal was living in pure oxygen, right? Well, you know, like, you know, I have most beers only like 2% oxygen, but if you switch to a hundred percent oxygen, the animal will burn out and because of metabolism becomes so accelerated. So everything getting so fast and they cannot resist. And we'll die pretty soon i cannot remember where this couple minutes or it's like an hour but that if you change to living a pure

oxygen environment actually become toxic well isn't it interesting that a 10 year old would even question something like this because if you think about it with the thoughts that are coming from her her generation well wow i can just see that you know that they're already questioning those kind of things that this is absolutely possible yeah she's genius i think this is a very wonderful question isn't it well you had talked about how you know it could also be you know turned into water which is what i came back to her and said well you know there has been some research that h2o is actually hdo and that deuterium that is in our water actually does eventually kill us well i mean there are some like hypotheses and like experiments around it

but however i don't think that there is like the evidence is not like solid enough to say hey that is the only reason of course it could be one of the factors that like you know like slowly like making our body like age and like you know being destroyed from inside so it could be one of the factors yeah there's a lot of factors against us. For sure. You know, when I think about trying to be healthy, and we've had a lot of people on bringing awareness to things that people never usually think about, like, what are we wearing? What's in our clothes? What, you know, what's in the carpet, you know, the toxins, we have, you know, everything in the food, in the air, the EMFs, we have so many things against us for sure that is killing us yes living is so hard i mean actually that's uh like in the first part of the book when i define that how to live longer

just talk about like living itself because it's so hard to like survive on this like earth or in this universe not as human beings but just as a life form. Think about all the gigantic, like, extinctions, like, happening in the past, and all, like, dinosaurs, other animals, fishes, they died out, right? And it's, like, not as a human being, but as a life form, as all DNA-based life forms. There are so many, like, survival and living and struggling to reach, like, you know, 2023, you know 2023 you know so i just like things happen so hard to live and it's not like we're not talking about like you know like things

like big changes like covid or all other like pandemic or just about like you know like how to keep a healthy lifestyle or metabolism or just like to leave like the maximum of like the natural lifespan that is just so hard yeah it is and then when you look at all of the toxins and the things that are against us today you look back a hundred years seems like people were lucky to live in their 50s yeah for sure yes so you know like in the Ages, like the average age for an Englishman was like only 30. So Singapore is crazy, right? But, you know, your school and you haven't paid back all the loans yet, but it's already time. So then what that tells me is that stress and mental health probably have a lot to do with us aging.

For sure. Yes. Yes. have a lot to do with us aging for sure yes yes yeah yeah you know you know you look in the biblical times and you have i think it was like it was an enoch son or noah's son noah's son maybe you know 907 years old you know you well sometimes i question like maybe their years were different than ours were however they didn't have all of the toxins that we're dealing well we don't know who knows it could be right i mean so like obviously it happened not only in the bible However, they didn't have all of the toxins that we're dealing with. Well, we don't know. Who knows? It could be, right? I mean, so like, obviously, it happened not only in the Bible, right? It's has in all those ancient scripts.

There's something mentioning of like, you know, Asian Maya who live like hundreds or even thousands of years. So unfortunately, right now, we cannot just ask them directly, hey, how can you live that long? But of course, like you mentioned that that like people have different living right their their food are different and their lifestyle is different and also like it's before that like the food utilization of like natural gas and also like oils right so they don't have all those like chemicals exposed to them. Like right now it's unavoidable, right? It's like, if you recall, there's a news, I think it's last week saying

that like, like whatever fish we eat in like, so if it's a catch a fish in a river in America, you eat it, it's like we exposed to chemical for like three weeks. So it's like, oh yeah, it's like they have been accumulated in those, like the body of the fish and the meat. So you cannot taste it. Right. And don't realize it. But it will be like actually in your body as well. And it's only one bite and last for three weeks. So, yeah, I don't think the Asian chemists have that. Right. They don't have all those chemicals. Right. But they also didn't have the medicines i mean i when i was looking at some of my grand like i had a great great grandmother she died of pneumonia you know something you know i think that that was common too i had another one that died of diarrhea

i mean we're talking like simple things but you know today you know it's common for most people oh yeah oh yeah so i mean certainly if you look at look back in history so many people died of that, you know, today, you know, is common for most people. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So, I mean, certainly, if you look back in history, so many people died of sepsis or, like, cold or fever, right? They don't know, like, random bacteria can kill them just by drinking some raw water from the river, and they die for no reason. So, yeah, of course, the technology, that double edged sword.

And I think that one concept that makes us different is that we can look at things at different like scopes. Right, like you mentioned that all the chemicals, probably a hundred years ago, they don't know that there are certain chemicals or they don't have the concept. Right now we can look at things that have, not only at a like

a like macroscopic level we can also look at things at a molecular level right and that give us like the power of like really getting into the details of living or about like know more about the mechanism of life so i think that knowledge is important because that based on that knowledge we can develop new tools that can help us to solve problems at a different level that our ancestors have never thought of. Or maybe they have. I mean, maybe those like biblical like old men,

they have no, oh yeah, we did gene therapy. That's where we're going to live like 900 years. Who knows? But at least we now like we're better than like a hundred year or 200 years ago. We are really have like new frontiers that we can work on. And access to, to all of that stuff.

So, you know, we had on Dr. Richard Horowitz a while back and he specializes in Lyme disease and he had wrote a book about it's called Star Seed Revolution. He noticed that Lyme had increased so much, but it was because of the environment, right? These ticks and everything were living longer. So he's like, we're going to have a lot more things that we haven't seen before, you know, because of the climate change. And so I was thinking about this morning, you know, living 300 years. And I'm like, are we still hoping that maybe the earth will live that long?

Of course. Actually, that's a very interesting topic in the book. So like the book is different from other book about like talking about longevity, because it's the first half of the book. It's really talking about how to live certain years. There are hypotheses and like a comprehensive comprehensive blueprint about different steps, different factors. The second half of the book is talking about how to live that long. Because living is not like you have a lifespan or you can't live that long naturally. That's it. Living as well, you have to live day by day through your life. So of course, we're not living

just by eating and breathing there's so many things that we need to interact right one thing one big thing is our own earth and all the environment right for like there's we talked in the book i talked in the book it's about like you know the the things are called like i think it's like earth day it's like how many earths we need to support our current lifestyle so right now it's like we need like 1.7 Earths to support the lifestyle of human beings right now. And scientists expect in that world, maybe after 300 years,

we need like 20 Earths to support us. And we know that's something that cannot last, right? Because if you're consuming so many Earths, all the resources i mean the earth will go into burnout so yeah who knows that's a big part of it yeah right i think the other thing that i was curious about was that you know a lot of people are working on their karmic debt you know and you're adding like a whole bunch more years to have to work on that karmic debt or you know you come back as a tree or a flower for 300 years for sure yes yeah that's a very

interesting topic actually like i mentioned the second half of book talk about like how to live 300 years and also financial situation is a really big part of it. So it's like, I, so like given, since the scope becomes so long and they're like, if small things like inflation really have a big effect. So if we want to have the buying power of $1, 300 years later, can you imagine how much we do we need to save right now to keep that buying power?

Yeah, a lot. A thousand. Yeah, a thousand. Like $7,000. Yeah. If you are saving $7,000 right now, you'll have the buying power of $1 right now, 300 years later. Holy crap.

That's crazy. So it won't be possible to retire in your 60s right because you know. Only the rich only the rich. But you know what maybe only the rich would want to because if you were living up in the struggle bus you know you may not want to live that long. Yeah and then then like, based on that, like how many, think about like how many jobs you need. Yeah. Or how long. And how many knowledge you will need. Probably like one student long after another.

So you can keep up with all the knowledge. Oh. Yeah. Absolutely. You know, you hear sometimes like, oh, 40 is the new 30.

Or, you know, this and that. Like when you hear sometimes like, oh, 40 is the new 30 or, you know, this and that. Like when you're talking like 300, like 100 is the new 50, right? Remember that movie, Benjamin Button? Like, do we still physically change? You know what I mean? I know I look young and you do too. I don't know how old you are but I'm almost

47 I have children 25 years old you know to 10 this is because of my genetics but of course this is just the one system that looks young I you know I have other systems that you might look at that might look old right um that are not visible to the eye. Hopefully not. I hope all of them are young. But it's genetics. So, you know, I look at my mom, she looks very young. However, there are all these products. I look, I got collagen right here next to me. I got, oh, I love this product. Drunk Elephant is like one of my favorite. I get all of these things that are great to help like my skin. This past year, I've been doing a lot of things. One of the things I've been doing differently is the Rosh.

I don't know if you're familiar with it. So the Rosh was created by Dr. Jerry Rivera Degeno. It's like a scalar plasma energy machine device based on frequencies. you can get on every first and third saturday i've been doing it for over a year now and i swear to you i feel like i'm sharper i sleep better of course sleep is a huge part probably of a lot of people's aging wow so yeah i don't i don't have a lot of stress i feel like frequency is a huge deal for our dna it could be yeah so like you know actually all the molecules including our dna have those they always have like those small vibrations right so you don't you feel the i don't know which frequency we're talking about them could be the frequency that like can call causing the more vibration or less vibration of the DNA yeah and then in fact affecting things at molecular level and then you know I have a more macroscopic like effect on your body so it could be yeah

you know and Dr. Emoto's you know experiments with the cells, of course. So I'm like, you know, we're energy, right? And so it's all about the cells and how healthy and abundant can you keep them? Am I right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Actually, that's like, we're aligned on the like key concept of the book now. So like you mentioned that, I think that genetic, of course, it's a big part of this actually, maybe the most one of the most important factors. So if you look at those people you mentioned that i think that genetic oh of course it's a big part of this actually maybe the most one of the most important factors so if you look at those people who live like 120 years actually those of one the the few who can reach 120 years and are still happy living their lifestyle is not that healthy so like they they drink they drink a lot of yield like a lot of red meat like all those stuff they

still can reach like then also they smoke they can reach still can live that long think of that like you mentioned that genetics could be a big part of it they do of course they have like better oh i would say better but good genes right support their life. And they are not like sick for like cancer or other things. So of course, that is a big part. And also mention about frequencies and other things. Yeah, they all have an effect. And also chemicals, they all have an effect on our life. And we want to live young.

And there's a reason why that I might, for my book, I think that like before living 300 years the most important thing is about how to rejuvenate yourself right you don't want to live with our aging body or the body is it's like even you can't like sustain your life to 300 years with a natural body of course there have drawbacks with it right however if you can rejuvenate and keep your body healthy and young and leave that long then it's much more worth it so that's a very big thing and that's the reason why i think that like before thinking about living longer actually the most important thing is that how to live younger yeah yeah so one of the things that i also discovered was doing my dna i chose not to look at my medical now i i'm kind of like up in the air now about that and this is why so i thought that if i saw

all the bad things that i may subconsciously put that in my head and then i end up dying from something like that yeah but then I thought, and we've talked to other people who did a lot of stem cell research and this and that, and they said, if you knew the system or if you knew the place where the problem could be, you could focus on just that one. Like if it's not that you have lung disease or all these things, you could maybe smoke your whole life and it wouldn't affect you. But you may have someone that has colon cancer in your family that you might want to more work on and focus on in your life you know watching what you eat for sure yes yeah there is a like of course like so there are

good and bad things about it like being testing actually i'm those kind of guy that who tested and i have to read all the automatic report to know every mutation yeah yeah luckily i'm not i'm pretty good about it and it's like everything is normal and not much like things that need to be worried about but i i certainly know that like i think the reason is that we don't have very good tools at hand let's say that you know that you have this like for example a cancer mutation they have like the i would say no high 20 percent rate that turn into cancer cells like i mean after you are 30 or 40 that's certainly very like stressful right i mean it's uh people don't want to hear but i don't want to look back. Then the reason why they're like, people worry about it.

Is that like, you really know about it. What can you do? You can just like maybe examine your body more frequently and that's it. Right. There is no way that like, well, I mean, there are ways that in our hand, like I mentioned that we have this like DNA or gene delivery system that can help like change your DNA. However, that's not widely used yet,

right? Or it's not commercially available. So when people got this gene DNA test, and if I read their medical report and say, oh, I know we have this mutation that increased my rate of cancer or other disease, but that's it. What can you do about it right there's but once you have tools say oh i have this mutation that can increase my chance of cancer and i can correct it then there's no stress at all isn't it the mental part too you know that's what i was worried about i know that it's very prominent alzheimer's in my family I would hate to live 300 years and have Alzheimer's like the last 200. That would frickin stop. Right? Yeah. But you know, here's the thing. I kind of have it in my mind that this is going to stop with me. And I have a lot of tools. You

said we don't have a lot of tools. One of the I I can remember I had long haul COVID symptoms, like the stomach thing, where I would feel nauseous all the time. I went to the doctor, he says, take Prolisac for a month and then call me back. And I was like, do you think that I didn't try something before I came to see you? Because, you know, obviously I would, however, and I wasn't going to take that for a month. So I started to do some chanting. And when I would, it would trigger my vagus nerve to trigger my stomach to open. I could literally feel it. So they called me a month later. How's everything going?

I'm like, oh, everything's great. Oh, okay. So did you just take the pill? I was like, no. So everything just went away. I was like, no, I actually chanted. And so he's like okay well whatever works i'm like yeah it did work though we have a lot of healing power for sure yeah yeah see what like the how fascinating the human body is right there are so many ways of course and like medicine is one way to i would say correct

something but think about like the power of the body itself that it can self-sustain and i just like correct all the things and the it's one thing that i can live longer especially hitting 300 years to like fully utilize that right i mean it's like to use the like the power of your your inner body and how to you know like to avoid certain dangers to longer actually that's also a big part of the book it's about like you know you know how to of course a medical and genetics are big parts also like mental health and other other aspects of life how to like make yourself healthier and happier yes yeah. Yeah, yeah. Even when, you know, I've done mindful eating, you know, we did that as a family, you know, I never finished my food,

you know, just little tools like that, right? And I didn't want to eat tomatoes out of a can after I was mindful eating, right? I thought about it, you know, I mean, I was very conscious to that conscious and slowing down when I was chewing. Right. So all those little things led to my digestive system working better. Just because I was bringing awareness to it. Yep. That's super helpful. And I think that you are a very good practitioner about like healthy lifestyle.

And how do you like treat your body better? Yeah. practitioner about like healthy lifestyle and how do you like treat your body better yeah i'm very like i want to be someone like you to treat myself better life is about like to learn about yourself right and also work together with your yourself that's an actual big part of it and of course like i think you did a very good job by you know evolving your own body to get to know your different parts and get to know how to like live better or work better with them i think that's a big learning here right it's like especially if you want to live longer and healthier your body have to be healthy and happy together with you how to treat yourself that's really important yes and then love yourself because i came from generations of women

who didn't they were just taking care of family and everybody else they didn't do things for themselves yes especially for like uh our female friends that i think good care of themselves is really important because like you know like they they have the burden of giving birth to our next generation as a big part of it and i I know like, for example, for some traditional Asian cultures, like for China, all the women will have like, you know, for example, in China, like women will have like half a year pregnancy leave. And also they're like all women, this has been practiced like for some years, it's like the months after they're giving

birth we'll just like stay at home and do nothing and other people will take care of them because like you know it's a giving birth to babies it's a huge burden to the body right this need full time to recover from this like it's damaging your body right so like all those things like you mentioned as to like taking good care of the body and like give them time to recover from damages and other conditions so it's so important yeah you know i was i was lucky i you know as a mom when i was in my 20s all the way to i think i was 36 last can add and so i'm a different mom. Of course, you know, I had a lot of energy in my 20s still, but I had two kids to run after. So I thank God I had a lot of energy. But mentally, I'm so much better now. So it's almost like I'm like, conserving energy. mentally which helps me physically oh of course yes and i like how you

said getting to know yourself because i think that's the most important thing we give away our power to the doctors and to people and say that they know more about our body and what it means for sure yes you know and there's a lot of medications out there that it's hard right now because you hear so much to trust the vaccines and the medications. And a lot of times they're, you know, everything is so great and then they take them away

and say they're not great anymore. And, you know, I feel like we're getting pigs or something. For sure. Because like ultimately they're like, you are the people who leave your body every day, right? more and you know it's i feel like we're we're getting pigs or something for sure because like ultimately they're like you are the people who leave your body every day right and ultimately you are the one that will will be responsible for what happens to your body and if you look at the drugs certainly there are a lot of good drugs but like if you look at especially for some of the drugs you look at the clinical trials they they are not that great, right? And the effect is, I would say, minimal, but it's okay.

But, like, whether you really need that or then they are, like, their clinical trial design, their inclusion criteria is so strict that whether you are one of those patients that, like, show, demonstrate effect, it's hard to tell. Right. So, but like for, for doctors, of course we'll take those into consideration, but they don't know everything about everybody. Right. So, yeah. So sometimes you have to, you know,

like to make a balance between how much power you give out and how much power you have to keep for yourself let's think about like you know what's the best strategy for your body i research you know what i mean i do i'll do the research you know if someone says you know you should go on this medication or whatever for this i i do i research we have this available now we can research you know what i mean read the reviews i mean even if it's just something simple you're buying on, I do, you know, see what other people's experiences have been. But do you believe in the placebo effect?

Oh, yeah. Yep. I mean, and I think it's been like, like, proven in so many ways, right, that we have a mental energy that can have like, can have like positive effects on our body and i think that's a very important part of our life right to to help us like you know to support us through like hard times and also like when the body have a hard time we can get through that so i think the placebo effect is good and of course we should utilize it for the benefit of our body. Yeah. Yeah.

When I have pain, the first thing I do is I sit with it. I talk to it. Yes. I don't just run and take something to make it go away. I want to know where it came from. Sometimes it's really old memories living in my tissues, right? We have so, we're so multidimensional. So what do you feel is the most important thing or is there not but like on a mental physical spiritual level what is what is the most

important thing that would get us to 300 i think the most important is to be positive right so say you have to have a like a positive attitude or positive energy to support yourself in such a long time because like 300 years if you think about like the all the things that we will met all the difficulties or other things in a like say 100 year life you need to time three you got like 300 year life right so there you have to have a strong mind and like a mental energy so you can like support yourself yeah i think that's the most important part because you don't if you give up or you don't feel that like you want to live that long then it's unlikely that you will live that long right wow i mean it sure would be beneficial to be able to go see what's on the other side of our galaxy oh yeah for sure yes

yeah so like you mean the last part of the book i've talked about like more have a higher level about you know what things can happen other things about 300 year life right what we can achieve or we can see and all the fantasies in a longer life yeah if we're singapore 300 years ago there's no america right and then the people have a totally different lifestyle and they don't have all the light they don't have lights they'll have planes they don't have all the fast foods so like the cancers and stuff and like how they started at the same time like we started putting electricity in our homes yeah it's just like there's so many things like i'm like you can't live in fear either you know i guess just being aware for sure yes you know i mean what do you think about 5g well i mean i think it's fast i haven't i i'm trying to avoid looking at like

all the bad effects about it because i i certainly don't know about like whether they will affect our body or something. But it certainly makes my phone connection faster. Does it? It sure doesn't mind. Yeah, like once I have 5G, I think it's, in my phone, it certainly is faster. But that's the only thing I offer. But I don't know whether it's like, you know, it's heating up or have anything affecting my like memories, stuff like that. I'm not sure about those. Yeah. Okay. So I know that there's a lot of animals.

Is the sea life probably the oldest? Yeah. there's a lot of animals. Is the sea life probably the oldest? Yeah, if you want to speak of life, actually the longest living ones are those trees. The trees? Okay. Yeah, some of the trees, I think it's in Seattle. Probably around Seattle. They can live like thousands of years. It's crazy, right?

And if we're speaking of animals, it seems like sea animals can live longer like sponge and like some of those like clams they can live like hundreds to a thousand years but like for even looking to our like close relative like mammals then like some whales can live like two three hundred years and that's the reason why the book was like how to live 300 years because like if our mammal friends who can do it probably we can do something similar because we have like similar metabolism we have similar like you know genes and those are something that we can work on right so if they can leave us memory years probably we

can do and then like on the land like human beings actually can live pretty long and also like elephants can live 100 years so yeah the isn't there some sort of octopus or something like that that actually like yeah yeah maybe they can like rejuvenate and it'll become as though they are saying like i think it's hydra but anyway it's similar it was like they were still the same hydra but like you know after 30 years they just like just gaining back time and become there's their young again and then leave again and young again leave again isn't that amazing it's just fascinating so can we learn from them you know can we say oh what's you know study them and say what's making them do that let's try that yes yes that's what's making them do that? Let's try that. Yes, that's really how I would say that right now.

The technology is a double-edged sword. Using that, we can learn about our own body, about all the medical records, what genes we have. But also look into the genes of those animals and find out, why do they live longer? And actually, that's in the first part of the book. We talk about what we find in those like animals or plants and what what what's special about them right why can they live longer why don't they get cancer why you know why can they rejuvenate so we have some with the

modern technology we know like more and more about like the mechanism of life and how I sustain them to make them live that long. So that's why that we use this knowledge, we can like look back and probably it's a better tool we can treat our like at a genetic level so that we can gain the same power and ability as well. Wow and I think that you know we should also be more conscious to the ocean. We have to take care of this earth. This is your home. We can't go to another home yet. So it's just so sad to me sometimes.

And when you mentioned about the trees and, oh my God, they're so beautiful. And when I think about the trees that have been cut down and yeah we have no respect for mother nature yeah i mean that's actually a big thing right for for you for human life and also for the earth is that like we we this is our like single home and we have to like work live together with other like life forms and with the environment so we were talking about the tree i was thinking about like you know remember that like we were talking about like long-living plants so one of the longest living plant i think i don't remember

it's like probably 500 year old do you know how do you know how like how it it died. How? Yeah, the scientists want to know how old it is, so they have to count all the circles on the shell. You know why you have to open it? So we know that, oh yes, five-year-old, but then the shell just passed away.

Oh my god, you're kidding. It's in the article or news and say yeah by the oldest living shell and it's yeah by knowing that you killed it that's so sad but you know it is truly amazing the things that are possible nowadays. And, you know, there's a theory that we originally were created to live forever. And that maybe genetically, we were modified in some way to not to not to do you believe in stuff like that, that we've been genetically modified? I mean, obviously, we are when we are taking certain vaccines, and'm not against vaccines i just you know doing some research see the concerns for sure i mean like of course i think that one of the most

important theory about how human beings become human beings is evolution right however there are certain periods in the evolution that's hard to you know like how do you explain right is there a slight certain jump in evolution and like you know like a simple platform become more complex so like one thing about there one series about like you know like how life form becomes and it's just like it's totally randomness right the genetic mutations because we give them enough time and then they just become you know what it is and based on that theory one thing is that like our eyeballs if you want to have something like that sophisticated it's like you are throwing a lot of like clothes into your washer and just keep on rotating them and one day you become a clock it It's like that. So, you know, how do you expand those periods? Of course, scientists have a different series,

but, you know, like genetic modification by some thing or someone or by like random information. It could be one explanation, right? And then like that, we were, if you were thinking about like, we were designed to live forever. If you were thinking about like we were designed to live forever if we're saying that like we were bacteria or those are our ancestors of course they are designed to live i mean if the environment's alone forever right because like they have this circular dna

they can replicate indefinitely but for human human beings, we have this linear DNA that has two ends. So each time our cells duplicate, our DNA becomes shorter and shorter. And when it's too short, it causes problems. So that's one big theory about why we age and we have more disease when we get older. So it would say that from bacteria who can live indefinitely to human beings who have this shorter in DNA and cannot live indefinitely, you can't explain that with, you know, some kind of genetic modification.

It's just like we don't know who or some or what did it, or does it happen like randomly, like you have a washer and turn your clothes into a clock right so yeah who knows i mean it could be one possibility but i'm pretty open to it right so it's like it's just basically it's something you don't know and there you can't have hypothesis but probably just nobody knows the answer in the end. I spend a lot of my time trying to figure out the cosmology. Okay.

That's my wonder. Like, how were we created? How did we get here? You know, and there's so many amazing and crazy rabbit holes you could go down with that. But, you know, a lot of times if you're trying to figure out something in the end you have to understand the beginning for sure yes yes yeah you're saying about like the university is so big right there are so many possibilities there and what we know what we observe is just like so little yeah who knows i think that people are thinking a lot more than

what percent of their brain nowadays and actually that was one of the questions i wanted to ask you was about junk dna and your thoughts on that oh yeah so like you know in the beginning i was thinking like probably in the 70s or 80s, when people know more about like genes, and I find this sort of like, you know, like, because our genes only a small part of our DNA, it's like 20% of our DNA is our genes. So all the other parts was like,

because they don't have, they don't find the labels for genes. I saw them. Well, you know, it could be just like randomness or junk. Right. But then they like,

when like the like molecular biology develops you'll find more and more parts of the like the junk dna to be like functional some of them that are maybe helping the genes to regulate them or some parts of them just like you know have the other functions other than genes but like even nowadays we still have like so many parts of the dna we don't really know what the functions are right we'll say that some of them could be like totally junk that like they don't have any functions at all but even now i wouldn't say that they are junk because like the mutations happens randomly on your dna right you have those like the junky parts to have the burden of the mutations so the mutations don't like land

on your important genes. So from that perspective, I would say that nothing is junk, right? It's like, it's not like help you, right? It's like, it don't have like direct function per se, but can still be a big part of your life,

right? So to keep you from getting diseases right but of course they're also like some junk dna maybe it's like disease prone they will say that well those guys maybe we want to get rid of them those are the ones we'll call them junk so wait i think that maybe one day we'll know more about that junk DNA. You know, you think about some of the organs that people dismissed and said we didn't need so much. And yet, you know, nowadays people are looking at them in a different way and saying, you know, actually, that is an important organ that we're just tossing aside. For sure. Yes. Not only DNA, like in the past few years. So, you know, like in in our cells there are like those like junky proteins so like usually that when dna translates to a protein that have function

usually they have like a form or a like conformation that's like they have a certain structure but those like junky proteins like a pool of like random stuff there so like previously i signed some scientists saying well you know they have no function there are just like failures or like byproducts but like in the past few years people find that well even those like junk may have certain functions so you know it really depends on like the you know more about things and you think well you know yeah there are new ideas and even those like things that you think were like useless before maybe they have some functions so yeah yeah i think you know it's just like a part of me that i've considered that i'm like you said you know it's so important to get to know you well i want to get to know my junk i don't want to just dismiss i just think

that you know everything probably has a purpose we're so amazing it's a miracle what we are and i think that a lot of people talk about um activating you know your dna and upgrading dna with frequency or with, you know, certain tools. Human brain, what we think, and our neural system, it's just fascinating, right? There are, like you mentioned, some people are thinking that we're only using like 10% of our brain. Yeah, there are like trillions of neural connections there, right? Of course, nobody knows how much we're using right now because but like of course we can like like we mentioned reprogram it or think differently and to like getting to become a

better or a better self right yeah yeah when i imagine that i do that i imagine that i'm creating more light in me more energy like I'm creating another energy cell, like something bigger and brighter. And then I really do think like the more you do that, like the more you are extending your energy and maybe your life. For sure. I mean, like if you're thinking about it,

like the neurons, they pass the signals through energy, right? They have this little electricity in there. That's exactly what I imagine. Same thing when I have pain, I send light to it. I just think that we are far more powerful than we think we are. And I think that once you become aware of yourself, you'll care about eating, you'll care about your health, you'll care about the earth. Yes.

I mean, once you feel that you're really connected to yourself, you're also connected to the outer world, right? Of course, once you're connected, you'll pay more attention to them and you'll care more about them. So I think all those things are good yeah when i was imagining like 100 year old men going to war or women you know i wonder what the age cap would be on to join the army yeah that's well i don't know i mean if you are rejuvenated probably you're still young enough to you know like, like to handle those things. But yeah.

Now, do you see that you would have to keep up with like stem cells and like there would have to be like medical world helping you live that long? For sure. Yes. Yeah. I mean, in the book, I think that like the medical health and also like genetic modification those things are required a lifelong that's for life lifespan that it's that long because they're like with our like our natural body we kind of know that like there is a cap there around like 100 to 200 years so 300 years really that like to break that glass ceiling of life and that we really want to

live by ourselves and live longer. So would we eventually say that we were able to do that and say you did it

a few generations, would we evolve to live longer then? For sure, yeah. I think it's really achievable because if you look

at the development of technology in the past i would say short like even like 10 years right yeah i mean it's amazing so in the book i have talked about it's written before covid so i'm talking about like all the dna and rna vaccine and how can you use it to you know like to rapidly like react against like you know stress like pandemics and uh that's before all those things were known but like think about like i think that billions of people have taken rna vaccines right now right so because so common and so yeah like so usual and also like for gene therapies like five ten years ago still they're you know, so very few people have the chance to try it. But

now it's like, I think there are around 300 clinical trials, just for gene therapy. You know, you come into this earth, you know, sometimes with, you know, these things that were your from your ancestors, and this and that, you know, it doesn't have to be yours. Right? I mean, you can do stuff, you don't have to accept that fate. Even doesn't have to be yours right i mean you can do stuff you don't have to accept that fate even if you have to work hard on that system for your whole life right yes yeah i call that's in the book i call that like the people who's seeking a 300 year lifespan i call them like rebellions because i like we have this the cap of the natural life is kept by our dna right it's like that's a fate has been you know like you already you are assigned and you can only live that long but we want to

break that so that's a it's not like that we have to accept that fate we can't live longer if we want so that's reason why that's a big part of the book is like you have to you have to stand for yourself right it's your own life it's your own body and you have to take good care of it and try to live longer all right well thank you so much dr shie for coming on let's follow up in about 50 years oh yeah for sure yeah we'll make a date this day in 50 years let's's, let's relook at everything. Awesome. You know, it's fascinating even to think of such a thing.

And so I appreciate you doing all the research and all of the time that you've looked at everything. So super cool. So tell everybody where they can get your book. Thank you for having me. So you can find a book in like Amazon, like Bars, Nobles and all those like popular bookstores.

And say the name of the book again. It's like How to Rejuvenate and Live 300 Years and Beyond. And now it's time for Break That Shit Down.

Be positive and live longer. Be positive and live longer. Be positive and live longer. I like that. That's pretty. See, there you go. Sometimes we're so complicated, but it's simple. Yep. Be positive and be aware.

Be aware of you. Awesome. Well, thanks so much. I'll see you in 50 years. Yep. See you in 50 years. Okay. Bye now.

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