Sense of Soul - Phantom’s in the Night or Et’s?

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

Today on Sense of Soul we have Lorraine McAdam, she is an artist, writer and poet. In the past, she worked as a nurse for twelve years. At 45, she trained to become a teacher, and I have been an English teacher for 12 years now, and she now runs her own tuition business. Lorrianna joined Shanna to share her experiences of having encounters with the paranormal, E.T.s and UFOs since she was a child. Lorrianne lives in Cumbria, U.K. She is also the author of the book Phantoms in the Night or ETs? One author's attempt to relate her lifelong experiences of physical and telepathic contact with extraterrestrials and the paranormal. Visit: https://www.collectiveinkbooks.com/6th-books/our-books/phantoms-night-or-ETs https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/news/23866986.carlisle-woman-unveils-decades-alien-encounters-new-book/ Follow her on Facebook  Visit www.senseofsoulpodcast.com

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monthly circles, and much more. Now go grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. It's time to awaken. Today, joining us from the UK, we have Lorraine McAdam. She is an artist, a writer, and poet. She has been a nurse, a teacher, and a business owner. Lorraine is joining us today to share with us that since she was a child, she has been experiencing encounters with paranormal, ETs, and UFOs. She is the author of the book, Phantoms in the Night,

or ETs, My Lifelong Experience of Contact with the Paranormal, where she attempts to relate her lifelong experiences of physical and telepathic contact with extraterrestrials and the paranormal. Hello. Hi. How are you? I'm all right. Thanks. How are you? I'm good. Nice to meet you. Oh, nice to meet you. Well, I'm super excited to talk to you.

I had another podcaster ask me if I had any abductees. The first person I thought about was Gavin, because I don't know if you've read Gavin's book, The Harvest. Yes, I have read it. Terrifying. Yeah, terrifying. I found that, but mine is kind of more benevolent, I feel. Yeah, I agree. I actually had on UW-Plasuca. She just recently wrote Encounters. Oh, yes, yes. Yeah, that intrigues me. Actually reminded me a lot of you. You could have easily been in this book as the encounters that she investigated were very similar

and really changed my perception on a lot of things as well as your story, because perhaps a lot of our spiritual experiences are encounters yes it's possible so tell me about you when you were little I mean like how did you grow up did you have a spiritual background yes I was just um western Christianity really um I was brought up as a Catholic because my dad took more interest in my upbringing really than my mum he was a Catholic too so when I was growing up and these strange things started to happen to me I didn't really have any other framework to judge it by other than like you say you know if you're brought up as a Christian

so at first when I started having these encounters really quite intensively they came on that started happening from the age of 12. I attributed it to demon persecution and thought I was being persecuted by something evil you know I just automatically said go away in the name of Jesus Christ and when they didn't I thought what on earth is going on here it was awful really it was very frightening because it kind of started in the late 70s for me and unfortunately back then of course you didn't have an internet you didn't have as many people coming out with their abduction experience in fact I don't think anyone had at that point Whitley Stryber didn't come out with his until the 80s. So you had no framework to hang this on. There was no reference.

You only had Eric von der Nieken with his Ancient Astronaut Theory. That's all that was available in our house. My dad actually was very fascinated by Eric von der Nieken's book and actually had a copy of it in the house. but there was nothing to tell me in any way shape or form that i was being contacted by ets or entities or whatever you want to call them um and it started for me very intensely from as i say from the age of 12 uh coincidentally puberty where i would be paralyzed and i would would black out and I would end up having missing time between these blackouts. And it would happen at least once or twice a week. I found it very frightening. And I kept all of this inside me for years. You know, I didn't tell anybody.

I attributed it to everything I could rationalize it away with I would say oh I've just had a nightmare or I've just I tried to discard to put it in a box and shut the lid so to speak which is what you do with trauma you know it was very traumatizing for me as a teenager to go through that I tried to tell my mum that something strange was happening to me and she just said I was imagining things yeah which did nothing at all to validate what I was going through um and then it got so bad at one point that my mum threatened to take me to see a psychiatrist um I think I mentioned that in my book um and the funny thing was it was almost like I believe it was the the there were the greys or whatever you call them because I caught sight of them one night with the big black eyes and I

thought oh my god this is a demon because it has a really pale face and you know I just attributed it to demons I've never seen anything like that so it absolutely terrified me you know, I just attributed it to demons. I've never seen anything like that. So it absolutely terrified me, you know, with this chalk white face. And then one night, they paralysed me, but they didn't let me black out. And I saw these hands around my waist. And it was almost like they were doing it on purpose to wake me up. When I look back at it now, I don't think they were deliberately trying to terrify me. I think they were trying to wake me up when I look back at it now. I don't think they were deliberately trying to terrify me. I think they were trying to wake me up to the fact that we're not alone in the universe, basically. And they were saying, we're not demons, we're actually real physical beings, just like you. My reaction was to pinch his hand with my nails and he pinched me back. And I thought, well,

that's him saying, this is real this isn't you imagining things at all that time he started to draw on the back of my nightdress it was like this black charcoal and then they let me out of the paralysis and immediately I ran and put the light on and looked at my nightie and it had been drawn on with symbols that look like hieroglyphics uh the egyptian hieroglyphics seems like a lot of this has happened at night time do you have any experiences during the day well no um but i was taken on when i was working as a staff nurse on nights which i can tell you about afterwards but that was much later on in the 90s but um it kind of started for me you know being abducted by the greys but as time went on i did have um some significant i

would say experiences where i believe i met what i will call undercover you know the nordic ets i think they walk amongst us incognito you said they're good looking actually they are very good looking yes yeah I've actually had a friend who was kind enough to do mock-up pictures of the drawings I supplied him with because I have a good memory for faces and one of them was I just called the girl at the bus stop because this was like the os factor came into play there was a he did put up that photo of her do you remember that at all yeah she was beautiful and when I met her I only met her twice usually on the estate that I lived on then I would be going into nursing college because she did pre-nursing course back when I did nursing in

the 80s and there were lots of people would normally be waiting for the same bus because we all went into college roughly around the same time there were quite a lot of teenagers but the two occasions I met her it was just me and her which was weird in and of itself and the funny thing was we made eye contact but we never spoke to each other and normally I could speak to anyone you know I can talk for England and um but it was almost like I just knew there was something different about her and at the time of course I didn't know there were Nordic ETs I didn't know about the grey ETs as I say but I've always been psychic and being able to read people's energies and her energy was definitely not like a normal human and her energy was it was almost like she was saying yes

I'm not from here not in words right you know like telepathically telepathically yeah and and it will kind of connected on a spiritual level is all that the only way I can explain it but as far as the grace taking me as well I did have a very vivid memory or recall if you want you know where you recall information where I remembered being pulled through the house wall and seeing the cobwebs inside the house wall and then being pulled up to a waiting cylindrical shaped craft which had a like an air force kind of blue light coming out of it you know the air force uniform is like a it's not quite navy is it sorry i'm just trying to illustrate what color it was and then i passed out as i was being pulled into whatever it was this beam or whatever it was so i did remember

recall that and what they did they disguised themselves as cats or tried to and i remember being floated out of bed and seeing these cats and thinking what on earth is going on here. Was that when you were 12? I was about 14 by this point because they've been taking me two years and I had this conscious recall of you know being taken up to the point where I was floated up to the craft. Did it seem like a lucid dream to you or did it really seem physical? It seemed physical really because I could see the cobwebs in the wall as I was pulled through. And I couldn't understand how I could go through the wall. That was another thing.

And I remember feeling really puzzled what the hell is happening to me, which is exactly how you'd be thinking, isn't it? That was happening to you. So, and I think I passed out at the point where they were going to pull me into the craft do you feel like you were actually in body or was it more of like was your body your shell you know maybe staying in bed and they were really just pulling out kind of like your consciousness I think maybe this you have something there because there were several occasions when I would obey during that time. And there was one time I remember I woke up, since you asked, and I was looking at myself and I thought,

who the heck's this in bed with me? And then I realized I was actually looking directly at myself. So I wonder if that's what they do and whether in point of fact they're trying to raise our consciousness to make us realize that we're not just this body you know that we're far more than that trying to wake us up really but as I say I didn't realize what was happening to me until I came yeah Whitley Stryber's book with the iconic face on the cover and it was when I saw that face in a bookshop that I did a sort of double take and I thought my god I know that face and I was literally in shock because I knew that face from my teenage years and I thought oh my god and it was only when I read his book and I thought my god this has all happened to me as well um in fact I even wrote

to him and I wrote to also Bud Hopkins in New York and I got a reply actually but that's another story but um there was hardly anything out there and suddenly I had this confirmation from his book that yes something strange has definitely been happening to me that I've and I had to face the fact as well which was a real shock and gave me PTSD for some time that I hadn't been communicating with something evil, that I've been communicating with some kind of ET entity. And that was a shock. I don't know if it's like this with you, but paranormal activity comes in waves in my house. So we'll have a bunch and we all experience things and then it stops and then it starts happening again.

And I think it's just happening to me, but then all of a sudden everyone else starts talking about it and then it stops. And so at one point it years ago, and this is probably about four years ago, there was this time when I was getting this extraterrestrial energy that I was feeling. And I was having dreams of, you know, going somewhere with a little gray. And I had a vision of one in my room going through a portal in my bathroom. Weird, you know. And then stuff moving in my room and me closing my eyes and kind of sensing what it is and seeing the vision of a

gray. And the only thing I could say, it was really hard for me to put words to the energy I was experiencing. And the only thing I could say is I felt like it was a neutral energy. It wasn't good. It wasn't bad. It wasn't feminine. It wasn't't masculine I felt just there was it was just neutral yeah yeah almost like they're androgynous or something sexless yeah I got that feeling with them too actually but with the taller ones and the smaller ones and with the taller ones I do get a feeling of who they are they do seem to have a designated either maleness or femaleness they're slightly different, the taller ones. Have you found that?

I have not had any experiences with anyone tall. I only know how they've been described. Yeah. But also I believe I've encountered Nordics that they've actively sought me out. Just after the, for want of a better way of putting it, the abductions dropped off around age 16, down to the kind of Nordic ETs. I saw the girl at the bus stop from being 17.

And also I was visited by two very strange Mormons. This is all on my book page if anybody wants to go and have a look. I've got a picture of him as I remember him. I did a drawing of him and then my friend did this wonderful mock-up of him and he was very handsome and my friend has captured him exactly as he was, which was brilliant and the way he was dressed and everything. And you can go look at that on my book page. He was very good looking, but he came with his friend and then he came back on his own. And I'm told they're not meant to do that. And I think they were acting or pretending to be Mormons. I don't think they really were Mormons. Because all I can remember is he was having a conversation with me when I was about 17.

And he sat next to me. I was on my own in the house, sat next to him. And I just cannot remember for life for me what we said. Now, you'd think you would remember having a conversation, at least some of the things you said to each other, but it was almost like he was controlling the whole situation. And I just got this strong feeling with him that he was not from here, that he was trying to say to me.

As I say, he was very, very good looking. Well, they say that about Val Thor, you know, Valiant Thor, the story of that. I've researched some of that. It seems like very similar. Yeah. I've wondered since, why on earth did they take such an interest in me? Because I had contact with them in 2008 as well. And I can't give a definitive answer to that.

I have to raise, you know know that I may have been perhaps one in a past life or something and I've also researched about the Nordic ETs actually come to earth and mix with us and intermarry with us at one point in our history but it's for certain if you read Lars Bergen's books she has gone into it in some depth and particularly with the Celtic races of which I am a part my father's from Scotland and they called it Hyperborea and it was part of the Hyperborean empire and at that time on earth they were amongst us they were ruling us effectively and we have the records of the anarchy don't we people deny this history at the peril of life because it's there to be found if you look for it

paul wallace has speculated about it you know and you said about the bible um yes i think you'd be fascinated also about the story of margaret storm not many people know about this. I don't know if you are familiar with Margaret Storm. Oh, no. Tesla, Nikola Tesla. So this book, this was back in the 1950s. The whole beginning of the book is about the root races, exactly what we're talking about and how Tesla had specifically given direction, blueprints and everything to what she called him, his disciples. There was two men in her book that she referenced and their stories about how they did make these instruments to be able to speak to the ETs. And Tesla gave them specific instruction and said, you will need to use these in a few years. And they're like, how will we know? And shortly after, Area 51 happened.

So I think that it is out there. It's been covered up or named as crazy or whatever. But now I think people are more open to that because we're becoming more conscious, less conditioned, less brainwashed. I think there has definitely been a sea change in the last sort of 10 years because this is why people ask me, why did I hide my story for so long? Why did I take so long? And in some ways, you know, lockdown was a blessing to me because it allowed me that time to write a story. But it was during lockdown that I was contacted again by a Nordic ET, I believe he was Nordic, to be given really a kick at the bottom to say why are you hiding your story you need to write it down and get it out there you know for you I mean Margaret Storm's book was taken off the shelves I mean someone purchased all copies and so you can order a book

but it's a copy of a book so it's like a Xerox horrible copy. And she went missing after that. And the only place you'll find her is in a Tesla's CIA declassified files. Really? Oh my God. So you think, so was her story similar to my own? Really, she was just telling the story of Tesla, who she believed was from Venus and had left on a mothership and had told his story, I guess, back at that time, whether or not they, I think they must have known something. Someone was trying to cover her up, get rid of her story and they did a good job. No one knows about her. Wow. That is so frightening, isn't it? In some ways. Yeah.

I've had people say to me that I'm brave, but I don't feel like I am all that brave. But what I do feel is that it's important to put this out there. Even Diana Placuca talked about this in my interview with her, that there's some sort of force that is against this stuff. Yes, there is. that there's some sort of force that is against this stuff. And so there's something that, and I would say that even for us people who are in the spiritual world are experiencing it right now. I just heard someone just last night talking about this and them saying the algorithms have been played with or something recently. I feel like there's been since 2020, like you said, a huge awakening of people's consciousness. And I think that we're getting

some pushback against that because they're afraid that they'll be no longer able to control our minds and the things that we believe and do and I'm sure the churches are getting emptier as people awaken and you know how much have they hidden from us and there's that trust factor so if you don't trust your leadership I have actually wondered if I've been attacked spiritually I don't that's actually gone through my mind but then I thought well there lies the way of paranoia so don't go that route so many people are awakening to the truth. And so as people awaken to the truth as they say, wait a second, I'm not crazy. Somebody else around the world is having the same experiences as me and had a totally different

background as me or, you know, our life as me. We're able to share experiences. And, you know, you putting that out there is beautiful because look at you had found the same in the people that you had read before. And if people hold it in and don't speak on this stuff, well, that's because they win. You know, the people who are trying to keep everyone quiet, they win. These are your experiences. Yes. Yeah. these are your experiences yes yeah um well I've actually seen craft landed and on the ground

um which again they're on my page what the had two dramatic sightings in 2008 um and that started really with a lucid dream where I was contacted I believe by a Nordic ET and that was remarkable what happened to me. Because in 2008, and this is what I talked about in the local paper as well, June started with me having a dream where I saw, incidentally, a tic-tac-shaped cream-coloured craft actually in my garden. And in the dream, I went out to the craft and it opened in the middle. A guy got out he was blonde very

good looking again came up to me shook my hand and then got back in the craft and flew away and I thought and I woke up from that dream and I thought what the heck was that all about is that just wishful thinking or something you know and I just left it where it was about two days later we went to the library with our children. They were only eight and sort of 10 then, something like that. And we always took them to get books in the library. And as we were coming back, my husband said to me, I didn't see it, but my husband said, look at that field over there. There's some crop formations.

Now, normally he's very cynical, my husband, very rational, you know, he's a scientist and a doctor. So he kind of just rationalizes all this away or tries to uh but he couldn't rationalize this away and he actually got out the car and we looked at these formations in this field and i wish we'd taken photographs but we'd no camera with us or anything and they were like the shape of the swastika and I know this sounds controversial but that is an ancient symbol it was taken you know it's not really a Nazi symbol at all it was kidnapped by them uh taken hostage but really it's an ancient symbol and I just looked at this and he looked at it and he went

in the field and he physically got over the fence and he said there's no way that could have come from anywhere but from something coming from the air landing and taking off he said, there's no way that could have come from anywhere, but from something coming from the air landing and taking off. He said, because the only feet going into that field are my own and coming out. And while we were sat there in the car, we noticed there was a Land Rover behind us with blacked out windows. And we thought that was very odd in and of itself as well. And it was almost like the energy I was getting from that was, please go away, go away. We need to investigate this sort of thing so we drove off eventually and the astounding thing that happened next well it astounded and shocked me but my husband obviously didn't know about my dream

about this guy getting out of the craft and shaking hands with me but as we came up the drive and this is the absolute truth there was a Land Rover sat on our drive, a black Land Rover. And in that Land Rover, it wasn't blacked out windows. And in that Land Rover was a blonde lady and a blonde man. And I looked at the man and it was and I said, I have a good memory of faces. It was the same man that I'd met in my dream. I swear that as God is my judge. And he looked at me and I looked at him

and he just looked as shocked as I felt, I think. And he drove off. And I wonder if that was done on purpose. And I thought, what the hell is going on here? And I never said anything to my children or my husband because I thought I'm just going to, they won't believe me anyway. And then from that, it culminated in July too to I started to see these lights over the field in the distance because at that time now we have an estate in front of us that was built later on in 2015 something like that but at the time it was just fields you could just see for miles and miles over just flat fields. And over these fields, there were lights coming together and zigzagging apart. And that's how it started, white lights.

And I thought, how on earth, if that's torches, because I try and rationalise things away. I'm the same as everyone else. I don't just jump to conclusions. I thought, if that's someone playing with torches, as one of my friends suggested, I thought, how is it that it's joining up and then splitting up and then joining up and splitting up and I've since kind of read on the internet since this happened about that the Nordics do have this capability with the craft of splitting and splitting apart coming back together again the next thing I saw um it was about four o'clock in the morning it was a very hot summer and I left my curtains open anyway and i woke up about 4 a.m because i looked at my clock and i and i felt like i should go to

the window don't ask me you know was it and i asked myself was that them wanting me to go to the window and i went to the window and i saw this huge craft and it was absolutely enormous. It would, you know, when I go off the perspective that I had of the field, it must have been the size of three or four buses across. And it was cylindrical. It had green and orange lights flashing around it. And I watched it and I actually questioned my own eyes. I thought, am I hallucinating? And it kind of went on its side like a Catherine wheel, almost as if it was reading my mind because I thought, okay, show me what you can do is what I thought in my mind. And as soon as I thought that thought, it went on its side like a Catherine wheel,

stood on its side in the field like a wheel, and then corrected itself and hovered again. And there's a mock-up of that craft on my page if people are interested and they want to go and have a look that was also in the local paper you know I went on the record to say that this had happened nearby off that what we call the b6263 road it's a minor road that leads down to the m642 so what what city are you in uh I'm in Carlisle in the uk um yeah which is on the border with scotland incidentally a country with a lot of history connected to the nordic ets so no coincidence there you know you

get these i think that there's connections going on here i said to my husband if i see anything else in that field i'm going out to investigate i said I'm warning you now I'm going to drive out in my car and I'm going to investigate I said I'm warning you that if you hear me going out in the early morning it's just me going to you know I kind of warned him and um the the zigzag lights came back and I thought right that's it I've had enough of this I'm going to investigate this I'm going to see once and for all what this is. Gets in the car, I had a little yellow Fiat at the time, drove down to the side of that field where the path leads up into the farm that the field belonged to.

And right on the end of there was sat an egg-shaped craft, lit up like a sort of pearlescent colour. And on either side were stood in silhouette I couldn't see their faces but were stood two I believe they were male and I thought my god what's this and I was absolutely terrified as you would be because at the time I thought are they going to take me and not bring me back was the first thing that went through my mind and bearing in mind I'm the mother of two young boys could lose them you know and that's all I could think about so it's kind of fight or flight mode that I went into and I went into flight and I just drove off in my car but I did the strangest thing this is the weird thing that I'll never

understand to the day I die why I did this because I know that roundabout right at the bottom you know and there's several exits off it and there's no way would I have chosen to go onto the M6 south heading towards what we call Penrith here I would have known normally in my normal frame of mind to drive all the way around to get back into the village to take the exit for our village to turn back around so there's no logical reason why I did what I did but I went on to the M6 and I wonder at that point they took over in some way because I kind of was in a complete panic because I wasn't really at that time used to driving on the motorway although I've been on it a few times I I was late to driving in life. But that's another story. But but I got to the I thought I'll come off at the services was all I could think in my mind.

Because there was a services about 10, 20 minutes away. So what we call Southwake services. And I came off there. And as I came off there, I pulled in and I was literally shaking from head to foot I was confused I was panicking and I thought I've just literally seen a UFO landed on the ground with possible occupants stood on either side of it was going through my mind and all I could think of was I need to turn back north to head north towards Scotland because Carlisle exit is just before Scotland which is in um J45 is Scotland so I thought I need to get back to the J42 exit now this is the weird thing as I pulled in there was a blank white lorry right in front of me and I got out and trust very trusting you know why would you trust someone so easily and the lorry driver

lorry driver I say in inverted commas didn't speak to me and I said to him can you help me turn back around to go north I need to get back to the Carlisle exit he didn't speak to me but he just indicated for me to follow him now that's weird in and of itself isn't it but there were no yeah but there were no logos on this lorry and another thing was that I just followed him without question right who does that in the right mind and there were no lights on that lorry at night if you were following a lorry what's the first thing you see at the back of you? Well, sorry, in front of you. What would you see? At least the bike lights, yeah, the driving lights. Yeah, there were no lights.

All I saw was a blank white wall. And it was like I was hypnotised or something. And all I could see was a blank white wall. And I followed that blank white wall until I felt literally as if I was let go of and put back head in the right way and I came back into the village didn't question it until I got home and then when I did get home I told my husband and he said but how could you be following a lorry with no lights on it and even he questioned it I thought about this so I went back to the service station in daylight and this lorry driver made out there was a bridge that you could go over you could drive over but there is no bridge there's no bridge you can drive over if you want to turn around you have to go to

the Wigton exit which is a small town and turn around at junction 41 you cannot turn around there's no way you can turn around there so how did I get turned around and I had missing time of an hour as well on top that I couldn't because that should have taken 10 minutes to get back from there it took me an hour so what happened to me I'll never know unless I get regressed or something yeah have you thought about that I have thought about it yes um because I'd love to connect you with Jennifer Mitchell she would love to have you on her podcast she does the quantum healing would she oh she would do it she would and you know what in one of my regressions i was a reptilian oh wow look down and i did not have feet

i was standing it was crazy in the past life you mean yeah and i was so uncomfortable but she holds a very safe space and so she she knew i was very uncomfortable in that and so she pulled me out of there rather quickly but you know why wouldn't we have experienced all beings if we are part of one consciousness really truly i absolutely agree i believe i'll tell you what i believe really happened to me as i've worked it out as best i could i think that was not a lorry they can make things appear to be something they're not i think that was one of the that might have been the same craft i don't know that i saw landed on the ground they intended to take me and they were going to do it whatever i did just for us americans a lorry is that a truck

it looked like a truck but with no logos on and no lights you You don't get that at night, do you, with a normal truck? You know, because you often hear, and I've even had an experience, where these white trucks or white vans will pull up and they're like angelic. I've heard this many times on the podcast. And I've had this before. Like I was on my way to my mom's house and I got a flat tire and this white truck pulls over before I can even get out of the car he's already got like my tire almost off and I

even I actually pushed him and I was like are you real oh well that happened when I was carrying my first child I got a pop tire and this guy came out of nowhere and he was in a white van and he said, do you know your tire? And he changed my tire and sent me on my way. And I never questioned it. Yeah. And he was blonde and blue eyed by the way. Yeah. So was this guy. Yes. The one in the lorry was, I'm very handsome handsome you can read the newspaper report on my yes I would love to you know dreams are really something else I mean sometimes I've woken up and I don't know which is real you know I don't know if this life is real or if it's the dream that was real my daughter and I we would have a reoccurring dream and we didn't realize this at first she's my oldest

daughter she's 24 but when she started telling me about a dream one day and she said it was reoccurring, I start finishing her sentences because I know exactly what she was talking about. I know exactly where she was. And it is this off planet terminal. And many people have talked about this. I've connected with many people. I've also had the same dream or have been there and it's all sleek, all white. And then in a regression, I was able to find out that the wings, you know, they would have all these wings and I'd never went down any of the wings, but I was always on this like people mover, you know, just going down like the terminal and there's lots of like people,

but I can't really see them. I'm not focused on them. I found out in that regression that those gates all lead to different dimensions and different planets, you know, different places that you could go and venture to. And sometimes my dreams don't make sense right then. And so that's what I was going to ask you. You were able to put a lot of this stuff together over time because you didn't understand what you were going through at the time

no I didn't no it was only when I I got I gradually went through an awakening process I think through reading Whitley Stryber's Communion. And then I couldn't get enough of, I dug and dug and dug. I went in every bookshop and my husband would say, oh, you're just going to go to the UFO section, it was a standing joke with us. You know, I just grabbed everything I could on the subject and I read and read and read. And Jim Sparks, I read a lot of his books. I read loads of Bud Hopkins research because a lot of what he talked about in his book Intruders was what I'd gone through with the Greys as well. You know, there was an Italian lady, I believe, in New York who was taken out of her apartment and that was witnessed by other people. And I don't think that was without intent really I think that was done on purpose myself personally there's been so many attempts hasn't there I think on the part of them and I say them loosely

and I include Nordics in that as well to wake us up and make us realize you know that we're not alone on this planet at all and I don't understand why there's this continuous embargo, you know, going on with the truth. And David Grouch is really kind of going through it at the moment, isn't he? Because he's been, it's happening to him, isn't it? As it happens, it seems to happen to all of us that try and come out where you get persecuted and ridiculed.

You can only hide it for so long. Yes, I agree. We're walking around with cameras you know what i mean before we weren't um not only are we walking around with cameras but we're more aware you know my generation is becoming more aware but these younger generations are really you know less conditioned and are going to experience they're looking for experience i i often wonder why the ets don't just do a mass demonstration and all the crap being made visible you know why don't they just do that and you know all this once and for all i have a feeling they might run out of patience at some point and do that. I asked one time, I think in my dream, I think it was, or in meditation, I can't remember.

Why doesn't everyone see you? Would you know that? I saw two craft in the sky and I could see them clearly and they were moving in sync with each other and there were no way airplanes and I said to my son who was sat next to me in the car in the front I said look at them look at them can you not see them and he said no and I thought what on earth is going on here why can I see them and he can't well not everybody looks up majority of people only look to see what's in front of us yeah I look up, I walk out the door and I look up. So I see the birds. I see the planes. I see anything. I see the balloons and the falling

stars. I see it all because it's the first thing I do, but not everyone does. Actually, I had an experience yesterday with this guy as well, just sitting outside, my dogs are going to the bathroom. I hear the jets and I live really super close to Space Force. So I hear the jets and I can't see them. And usually I can see them because I live so close. Are you in Florida? No, I'm in Aurora, Colorado. Colorado.

So we have NORAD. We have a lot going on here. But we have Space Force a few miles. So I usually, I mean, I can see them so close that you could see like everything. Cause they take off like a couple of miles away. For some reason I decided to take my phone out and just to record the, the sound and what I got was the craziest thing. So it's, I got sun rays, but the sound of the jets was moving the sun rays.

And it was like going with the sound. And then all of a sudden you see a vehicle of some sort. And I did not even know what I wasn't looking because I couldn't see it with my eyes. But you see this pin drop of something flying and go up. And I don't know what it was it was it was triangle it was a triangle ah right yeah I have the video and I was so shocked that I actually got something to visualize I'm just sitting there staring you know and there's nothing and it was clear skies wow yeah what do you make of the idea that's been put forward that they disguise themselves to look like our planes you know with holograms and such

I don't know whether there's any truth in that but I could I could imagine that it could be the case well I've even heard that and I'm not sure if it's here in Colorado or where they found it but someone had found on a I want to say it was Google Earth or something these invisible planes ah right and I mean if we can do stuff like that then of course you know their technology is far more than ours but I mean where did we even get the ideas from exactly yeah yeah you know one day we're watching black and white TV and the next day we're going to land on the moon. And the next day we're able to speak like you and I are right now. Yes. Yes.

Like him and I. Right. In your lifetime. Yes, absolutely. We've come in leaps and bounds, haven't we? So I think we probably have had help. Right. And so now that we can communicate our stories we could write about them we could share them and you're just going to hear more and more and yes because it makes it not seem so weird right like I'm not yes yes because you get that validation from other people yes because my neighbors I'm not going to go talk to my neighbors about it. I can't even talk to my family about it. Yeah.

So it feels good to be able to sit here and talk about it. Right. To my neighbors either. One of them is very down to earth lady, lovely lady, but would probably think I was totally mental if I even said anything, you know, or maybe not,

who knows? maybe she's had her own experiences you know you just never know oh no um the older generation though I do fight tend to find they tend to react less well to you than maybe younger people you know um yeah my boys are more open-minded as well about what's happened to me. Have they had their own experiences at all or seen anything? The youngest has seen a grey alien in his room and he has encountered a Nordic E.T. as well, he believes, because he said he had what he called a very lucid dream

where he was pulled out of his bed and he had a conversation with a man in a blue military-looking uniform. And he believes from the appearance of this guy that he was, you know, not from here because he actually said, we're kind of about 1,000 years ahead of you. And incidentally, I was taken during both my pregnancies I actually feared for the babies I was carrying you know both boys I was taken to a free time Paul Wallace told me the story on my podcast about how I want to say that he knew somebody yeah maybe who knew

the story of the woman who walked into the ocean and came back like five years later yes that's right I've read that yeah yeah yes um well um I was taken with Adam because I know I was because they put me back in the wrong place and I think they did it on purpose to let me know I was being taken and whether they were just curious and looking at the baby's development or something I don't know but I was put back in the kitchen in my night. He sat on the kitchen and I woke up on the kitchen floor. Yeah. And I remember when I was carrying my first son, he was very, very clever. Never needed to try at school.

Both of my boys are classed as gifted children. Both very clever. Both graduated from a good university. Both got master's degrees there was my first son I actually saw a grey stood right in front of me and I swore at him and told him you're not taking me while I'm carrying this baby and of course he took me anyway um but I remember seeing him yeah I believe that certainly with my youngest son he very agree and he he goes berserk if you spray anything like an aerosol spray or he's vegetarian he would never eat meat he won't let you even kill the smallest creature be it a ladybird a fly anything he will go and get it go to all the trouble to

get it into a cup and put it out, even a fly, even a housefly. And if you spray things, he gets really cross. He gets really angry with you for spraying. He made us all go on to using environmentally friendly roll-on deodorants with all that. He won't let us use anything with chemicals. Oh my goodness. Very conscious. Very much so. use anything with chemicals very conscious very you know I've had it happen four times that I am

having a conversation just like you and I are and the person changes ah right and so and I had a co-host at the time with the first one and I mean halfway through the episode you know everything was normal then all of a sudden, she starts changing. And I'm fixing my eyes, trying to figure out. And she won't change. And so I started to draw her. And I could not listen. I didn't know what was happening on the episode.

Thank God I had a co-host. I'm not even paying attention. I'm just so focused and fixated on drawing her. And then after it was over, it was like I had drawn huge eyes. I mean, I have the drawing. It's crazy. I literally drew like a little gray. And yeah, it was so insane. But it's happened a few other times, but they did not stay like she did. It would happen. Sometimes it would be in and out. There were different experiences. And I also experienced with two of them that I would get super, super tired right before I would get on with them. I mean, to the point where I'd have

to set my alarm to wake up for 10 minutes before because I couldn't stay awake it was the weirdest thing ever and with both of them they did this shifting oh wow yeah yeah it was so so unbelievable into a gray both times or was it no I wouldn't say it was always a gray no one of them turned into like this reptilian looking for sure all right yes yeah i would say two of them actually that's interesting because i actually contacted um a ufo researcher when i was going through all the stuff i was going through he actually wrote the foreword to my book i don't know whether you read it my quorum yes it ran in other dimensions and he actually came over to my house for supper and it was during that time that he actually said I shapeshifted he said you shapeshifted do you know and I and I was shocked by that um and I said well what did I shapeshift into and he said you

just went paler and your hair went pale and everything and I said well what did I shape shift into and he said you just went paler and your hair went pale and everything and I thought well that just made me wonder again you know was something being revealed to him because he's had a lot of contacts with the Nordic ETs as well that's interesting I you haven't shape shift not for me today but well, not yet anyways. I mean, it was so shocking to me. But the more you talk to people and then you hear stuff like that, you know, you're like, oh, other people have experienced that. When you said that you believe that maybe they're even here with us. Yeah. Maybe they can change their form.

You know, who knows? There's so many different ideas I could be out there. I mean, it's hard for our brains to understand any of this. Yeah, I mean, I've read so many instances of that happening, you know, what you're saying. Oh, really? That I'm convinced that they're incognito, some of them. Definitely from my own experience as well,

because certainly with the Nordic ets i've encountered them amongst us and i've sent i've tried sending out telepathic messages just i'm not going to give you away i say something like i'm not going to give you away but if you're a nordic if you're a pleiadian because that's what they are really i say can you just touch your nose for me and this happens to me of all things with a girl in the schoolyard when I was a mum years ago and I was waiting for my children and ostensibly she was the children's nanny I was told after I asked about her and I told her telepathically touch your nose because I just got this energy off her and she reached up and immediately touched her nose as I asked her to. And I thought, oh, my God.

And it told me that she must trust me as well to reveal her identity because they won't just reveal their identity to anyone, I don't think. So she must have felt safe to do that. And I felt tremendously privileged. And I believe that happened to someone on a New York street. I read in one of Bud Hopkins' books that that happened to someone on a New York street. I read in one of Bud Hopkins books that that happened to someone on a New York street. They were sat and they got this feeling from this man that he was, again, incognito, not from here, and asked him just to touch his... I think it was Timothy Good, actually. Yeah, I remember that. It was Timothy Good. And he had that happen to him as well in

New York. All these experiences, you say you don't know why they chose you or what it is. You have some ideas. They're not hurting you, right? They're not here to scare you. They've helped you when you were lost. There's got to be something like a purpose, don't you think? I definitely think there is. Who knows? Maybe they knew that I was going to write that book there is a theory that they could be time travelers who knows you know many of our roots are galactic oh yes absolutely yeah yeah so I think that as we become more conscious of that we're going to realize and see that they're all around us oh yes absolutely yeah I believe they seeded different races here as well that were from this planet there was contribution towards our DNA I firmly believe that that's one of my theories why I've been contacted as well

because um the more I've gone into this the the more I realize that certainly with the Celtic races, there was an enormous input on the part of the tall, blond ETs. There's so much evidence for them having an input into civilizations all over the world, not just the celtic one but building civilizations and more or less helping to civilize us and turn our parity more to literally teaching us particularly after the great flood myths that abide in in all cultures which are all over all over which paul wallace also talks about um they're all these myths are all over the world and graham hancock acknowledges that times are changing oh absolutely i and i think good on you for writing your book and getting it out there thank you for that i really appreciate that i thank you so much for coming on sharing your story sharing your vulnerability and being

brave and having the courage to do so my book is called phantoms in the night or ets and uh it's under lorraine mccadam on amazon usa and amazon uh uk just if anybody wants to buy it yes you could buy it on amazon you can also find it on collective ink i think yes i'm going to think yes collective ink books if you just put in lorraine mcc McAdam into the search bar, it'll come up. Yeah. Yeah. And also you can go to my Facebook page, which is Cold Phantoms in the Night. If you just put that into Facebook search, if you want to follow my book page as well on there.

Yes. And I did. I went there this morning and liked it. So I'll be following you. Oh, thank you. That's great. Yes. Yeah. You have a beautiful night. Yes, you too. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks for listening to Sense of Soul podcast. And thanks to our special guests for joining me.

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