Sense of Soul - Re-Membering The Frequency of Love

Episode Date: February 11, 2025

Today on Sense of Soul we have Dr. Sharnael Wolverton Sehon, ND! She is a naturopathic doctor, quantum scientist, linguist, and theologian, integrating these disparate wisdoms into one language of miracles. Her scientific approach to miracles has helped countless people Re-Member Truth, Love, and Purpose, and had re-set their lives. She has taught & traveled to over 51 countries and uses social media /interviews /podcasts to ignite the masses to alignment of these things. Dr. Sharnael is an accomplished educator, author of 5 books , and entrepreneur. Two of her most recent titles are “The Science Of Miracles Re-Membering The Frequency of Love” and “Keto Reset 31 Days to New Life” as well as a card deck “Crystals, Oils and Decrees Card Deck” and has produced numerous teachings on the topics of Divine Science and the Human Body including consciousness, epigenetics, quantum health, essential oils, nutrition, frequency, the biofield, juicing, conscious language, dreams & visions , cleansing, detoxing, abundance and way more! Visit her website at www.drsharnael.com Her extensive work can be explored on her Podcast at Dr. Sharnael’s True TV on YouTube     www.senseofsoulpodcast.com

Today It's time to awaken. Today with us on Sense of Soul, we have Dr. Sharnel Wolverton-Sihon. She is a naturopathic doctor, a quantum scientist, a linguist, and theologian. She's also an accomplished educator, author, and entrepreneur. A few of her recent creations are the book, The Science of Miracles, Remembering the Frequency of Love, and the card deck called Crystals, Oils, and Degrees. And she has produced numerous teachings and topics of divine science and the human body, including consciousness, epigenetics, quantum health, frequency, the biofield, and way more. She has an awesome YouTube channel called Dr. Charnell's True TV, and she's here to share all of these wonderful things with us. So

please welcome Dr. Charnell. Hi. Hi, how are you? I'm good. How are you doing? Very well. Thank you so much for this time together. Well, I'm excited because you know what? I think that oftentimes for myself and I've seen in other people, we forget that we're multi-dimensional and when we get into the spiritual stuff, it's so fun that we forget about the physical body yes until it knocks us on our ass and then we're like oh yes well it's all connected everything is very connected so when we see that things aren't going on physical that'll affect the spiritual and vice versa when we start getting really clean in our diet then we start having a better spiritual connections and hearing God better and or source, whatever you call it. So yeah, there's no separation. Yeah. And you know,

when I think about it, it was really the physical body that led me to my spiritual journey in the first place. Oh, very cool. Yeah. Yeah. I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia, you know, years ago. And of course it was just stress that was screaming. I had the same thing, 66 or seven years. And that's what got me back to myself. Okay. Interesting that you have the same situation, but we would find each other. Oh, that's so cool. You know, actually at the time, my best friend and I both were diagnosed with fibromyalgia. We had the same symptoms and we're chasing after them. And sometimes when I would look up, of course, we didn't even have like a lot of internet back then. But when I would look up my symptoms, I kept running into

like awakening symptoms. And I was like, what the hell is an awakening? I mean, I grew up Catholic my whole life. I was like, you know, it was not even in my vocabulary. When I look back, I'm like, yeah, my body was screaming. You know, I wanted to be known. It wanted to heal. Yeah. I never thought of it as my body leading me there. I like the way you said that.

That's really interesting. I'm going to have to. That's really interesting. Yeah. And then, of course, like I said, I got so into the spiritual stuff. I was like, ooh, this is a vacation. You know, I was a mom of four kids. So I definitely I was like, I'm going to go into my closet for half an hour, guys.

I'll be back. That's awesome. Yes. We got to have that me time especially as moms yeah now I have like free time because most of my kids are well three of them are adults and I have a 12 year old so it's like for the first time in my life I have something for myself and that doesn't revolve around them and we are so much alike yeah yeah I have three of mine. And then we have two because I'm back with my love, my first love. And he has two from his.

So all of them are out of the house now, except for our youngest two. But they're in different homes. So like sometimes we have them and sometimes we don't. And it's just like, how do we be parents? Like, it's so weird just to not have anything to do with them, you know? Yeah. Well, Dr. Chanel, let me just tell you.

So I, we have five kids between my partner. You have five kids too? Yeah. And my last one is like our love child because he is my first love. He was my first kiss. And we. What? Yeah.

Isn't that random? I have goosebumps. Okay. So you got back with your your yeah like how long was your recess gosh a long time i mean we've been together now like 15 17 years something like that see 17 years i was with my first three children's father for 15 years. So yeah. Okay.

So mine, I was with my high school sweetheart and college sweet and my heart, we were engaged and set to be married. And then things just got weird on my end of like, I just started freaking out because I never had anyone to compare them to. Like, I didn't know, like, what if this isn't it?

Like, I think it is, but what if it isn't? And having all this, like, stress about it. So I took a, we took a recess. And then it ended up kind of being a 25-year recess. So I tried to find them when we broke up, but we didn't have social media. So it was like, I couldn't you know unless you wrote a letter and knew where to find them or you know there was no landline you know so

I just didn't know how to reach them and it took years to figure it out but in the meantime I moved to a city where I thought that he was gonna be and I saw him for like really briefly for a minute and then he was with a girl and that was weird and then we left and then I ended up marrying the dad of my kids and two weeks later that girl came back to me at my work and because when we met up she was just like really weird and I was I hadn't seen him in years. And I was like, oh, my God, Brian, like, hey. And she's just standing there, like looking at me like, what are you doing, bitch? You know, but anyway, I said, oh, I'm sorry. I'm sure now.

And then she was like, oh, you're sure now. OK. And I was like, oh, well, that must mean something. And then they left. The next day I was on my way to a management meeting in another state on the highway. And I was driving and I look over and they're in the next lane next to me. She's in the passenger seat and he's driving and we're in a whole other state. And she looks at me and she gives me this look like go to hell.

And then she looks at him and he turns over and looks and they speed up. And I'm like, oh my God, they think I'm following them like I I'm not even I'm in Mississippi I'm not even anywhere near like where we saw each other the other day and then I never saw him again until like a year later I was at work and she came in and she slammed her hand on my desk and she was like I just want to let you know you can have him I'm never going to be you. And I had literally gotten married two weeks earlier. Oh, wow. Yeah.

So something similar happened to me. It was like magnets, you know, just like you. I bought my first townhouse. And like a year later, my partner now, he moved in across the street. He didn't even know I lived there. And I walk outside one day and I see him. I'm like, oh my God, this is awkward. And I found out he was pregnant like the next week with my husband at the time. And so that was that. I always would see him at the grocery store and it'd be like, he'd be on my mind for like a year after it, you know, or I dream of him like all the time randomly. And when my ex-husband and I divorced, I was also a cheerleading coach and his ex-wife, cause he was divorced now too. We

both were available all of a sudden and his ex-wife signed his daughter up for my cheerleading squad wow yeah situation that's yeah we have this is crazy that we're meeting mine was a green card situation which I didn't know it at the time so we stayed together for 13 years and I was very religious I was in full-time ministry at the time. I'm not any of that anymore, but at the time I couldn't get a divorce in my mind because you don't do that. And no one in my family had ever gotten a divorce like all the generations back. And so I just kind of thought, well, this is what I do. You know, this is what you do. You just stay with the person and

we were in separate rooms mostly like that entire time and he lived pretty much like he wasn't married which really sucked for me because I actually loved him you know and then it just got really abusive and it was just rough and I finally got the courage and whatever to kind of like do something different and I couldn't help compare everything and everybody to him it was like my mom would even say like on a scale from you know zero to Brian like what where is this you know whenever I would date you know it'd be like because I like the threshold of whatever but then we ended up getting back together because I got really sick. I was like deathbed sick, like really,

like they said you're not going to be here much longer. And when I, the day I was diagnosed, I literally, that's the first person I thought of is before I go, I have to fix this. And then I thought, oh my God, this, that's really wrong. That's who, that's what, that's what I'm thinking about. Like that just shows you, like, how much. It showed me how much. Like, that was just a thing.

And so I went to try to, like, work that out. And he wouldn't talk to me. Like, I even was going to get a private investigator because I just couldn't find him. But then I did find something on Facebook that was like no name no cover you know whatever sent him a message not even knowing if it's him and like he didn't respond and I was just like okay I don't even know and there was like a bunch of people with his name in the world that I found that aren't that you know I could see the picture and it was definitely not him I finally was working with this guy named Robert Stevens and he kept saying like well if you

want to clear this you know go find him and like apologize for what happened you know and I was like well I'm trying I'm doing all the things I've like spent seven days trying to look for him and I was not having any luck and then he was like so I called him back after seven days and I said well what happens if I can't talk to him like what what do I do to clear this you know if we can't settle this before I go and he was like what do you mean like just everything's energy like just talk to him like as if he was right here like go for a walk and just say whatever and I was like wait what because I didn't understand all that at the time. He was like, just literally tell him everything you would say as if he's standing in front of you. Everything is energy, dear.

And I was just like, I wish you would have told me that like seven days ago, because I'd reach out to his brother and like, you know, send these messages. Anyway, so I walked around my block that night and I just like said all these things that I would have said is if he was there and was crying and emotional. I mean, I really like acted like it was happening. And then I just laid down in my driveway. It was like 11 o'clock at night, looked up at the stars. And I was just like, OK, God, please just clear this from whatever and help me, you know, whatever. And all of a sudden my phone was sitting next to me.

It rings right next to my head. sitting next to me it rings right next to my head I look over and it's like Brian and I'm like I was just like what but when we did get together like he him and I both got married twice in between and divorced at the same time we were having kids at the same time like this parallel thing even though we didn't talk to each other see each other we're in different cities like to the month we were getting divorced and married at the same time yeah it was just wild that we ended up like connecting again and when we did like the love and everything I just felt like myself again so you weren't on your deathbed anymore yeah I ended up healing myself

through that and a lot of other things but I think just not being in the stress of you know being with my ex because he left like my second ex actually left like about a month after my diagnosis and I thought well this is the end of the world you know but then I realized like he's actually making it worse on a physical then because I was always in stress like always always always stressed out with everything that he was doing and I was better without him but I just didn't know it and then then it took like reversing like remembering how to love myself again and not like pick all these people who hated me because what I what I got out of that is like I had hated myself not just because of what happened the night that we kind of broke things off at the beginning but just hated myself in general and so he is so

loving that he couldn't even find me because the hate was in the realm like so thick that but as soon as that cleared and I started really loving myself and acting like I loved myself and doing all the things to take care of my body and like making just choices for him you know my ex to leave and kicked him out and you know just all that stuff I was just like he could finally like go, Oh yeah, I can. Cause before that, like no chance, you know, Cause we're not a lying. Isn't that crazy? It is. And you know, you mentioned also, I,

like I was teaching Sunday school at the time I grew up Catholic, you know, deeply rooted. So even my first marriage was because I got pregnant. I mean, my dad was like, yeah, you're getting married. He wouldn't even tell his family until I got married that I was pregnant, you know, because this was wedlock. This was, you know, got married. But, you know, looking back, I'm sure you feel the same. All the hardship, anything, you know, was for me to be who I am today yeah well for me when we did get back together it was like bittersweet because there was this like

exuberant like relief and just like oh I felt like home again and I could breathe and I just you know he loved me for me and not because of anything I did or what who I knew or you know it was just this sense of like safety and security and being with him but then the other part especially at the beginning was just this overwhelming sense of like loss that I just missed out all those years and what a big mistake I made and just like dread and just but it did take me a while to finally get to the point where it was like okay I just can't take it back that's what I did that's the choices I made I got three kids out of it I wouldn't have had my I wouldn't take that back and the lessons and just the ability to have compassion for people who may be in that situation or, you know, whatever different things that I learned on the journey, it was all for something.

And yes, it was all my choices and none of that would happen without my choices, but I couldn't beat myself up anymore for the dumb ass choices that I made. It was just like okay move on and just be glad that we're here now and go forward you know yep I agree you know what's even crazier is I do muscle testing and kinesiology and I didn't even know what that was at the time but one of the doctors that I worked with had that and all these other machines that can test like things and so when I cleared cancer and I knew that it was gone through some other stuff that happened with conscious language I was like in disbelief that it happened that fast and because

it just literally like came out so when I went back home I went to the four doctors to just like because I'm very data oriented I'm science I'm like I need proof like show me that this happened and when I went to one of the doctors at the time I was still wearing the wedding ring from my ex and because I'm I was legalistic and like okay well if the papers aren't signed because it had it had been a long time but he just was not signing the papers it's a long story of why he couldn't, but I kept having these dreams about taking the ring off. And, but my legalistic part was like, well, that would be lying if I took it off because blah, blah, blah. So when I went to

the doctor to see if the cancer was gone or if I was clear, they were doing all this muscle testing and all these tests. And I, and when the doctor walked out of the room, I asked the nurse, can you do me a favor? Can that thing test like other things? If I ask, and they were like, what do you want to ask? And I'm like, well, I've been having this dream about taking my ring off. You know, can I take the ring off? I just want to know if I could take the ring off. And then she was kind of looking at me funny, but then she was like, okay, um, let's test. And it said, yes, you could take the ring off. And I was like, okay, can you, this, I don't know why it came to me, but it occurred to me all of a sudden, like, wait, am I still married?

So I asked, like, can you tell, can you see if I'm still married? And it came back, yes. And I was like, okay, am I still married to, and I filled in the blank of that person's name. And they said, no. And I was like huh okay and then I said this came this comes to me was I ever married to this person and I say the name no and in seven freaking years I was with this guy I'm just feeling like I was stuck and had to and

whatever he did I was just like oh god then I got scared and I said please tell me I'm not married to the first guy and I like said his name and it said no and I was like what and so I was like can you test to see if I was ever married to this guy and gave the name and so it tests and it comes back no I like literally Shanna I I was beside myself I I started crying because I was like like really I wasted like 20 something years on people that I wasn't even married to but I stayed because I thought that I was and I had to and you know I kept trying to try and try and that's then it occurred to me I'm like wait a minute so you said that I was married so So who am I married to? And of course, I can't just say a name. So I said, well, when was I married?

And they go through all these months and years. And it comes up November 7th, 1987. And I was like, what is that? Like, I have no clue like what that is. And so I was just like, okay, shelf it. And just put it up there. Well, months later, later my ex who we just talked to that one time you know and I cleared everything and like we made it all right and then

we didn't talk anymore it was just like okay I did that I'm gonna move on um he reaches out and he was like hey do you want to go get dinner I could take you to dinner or something i was like okay and so i go up there and meet him you know we he cooks dinner and he gets out this like football bag because he was a captain of the football team and he had this like old bag that and like inside is like every note i ever wrote him like every poem i ever wrote him all the songs i'd written on cassette tapes like when we would travel or go out of town, you know, we didn't have like long distance cause that was costly. So I would like send him a tape, you know,

if I was gone a couple of weeks in Montana or something and he would listen and I would just talk or whatever. And he would do that to me. He kept like our Sadie Hawkins matching clothes. Like he had like pictures of everything and he pulls out his calendar right and the calendar is like 87 88 89 and it's like his birthday January 2nd mine September 14th and then November 6th and I was like what's November 6th like I don't I don't know what that is and he was like you don't remember I was like no I don't and he was like that's the night you came to my football game you put your phone number on my truck and you were like hey call me and then like I called you the next day and like we went out on our first date on the 7th

and I was like what because like the doctor had said November 7th 1987 and I was like what I was just sitting there oh my god this is who I'm married to right and so I was just in shock and I didn't tell him like oh my god we're married like I right completely away like on the first time we're even connecting after 25 years so I was like trying to restrain myself and I'm just like my mind is like wait what is marriage like what the heck like what is marriage then and then what the heck? Like, what is marriage then? And then just totally, you know, rethinking like everything about my life and my path. And, you know, later actually blind tested him. And he was also never married to his two that he was married to.

And he was also married on November 7th. And like, we did not have sex. We did not like nothing. I mean, we had a kiss, but we never had sex when we were together for like the five years we were together. We were so pure and like cool and, you know, no judgment if anybody has, but I'm just saying like, what, so what are the, what's the definition? Like what, what makes marriage marriage?

And then the real thing, Shanna, is all my life with guys, I had had the cheaters, the liars, the abusers, which I got the part about it being in the field that I hated myself. So I was collecting haters at the time. Cancel clear. What I didn't get is the cheating because I am so freaking loyal. I'm like super loyal. Like I, if I am your friend, I'm your friend. If I'm your partner, I'm like super loyal like I if I am your friend I'm your friend if I'm your partner I'm your partner but when I got that and realized oh my god I was married the whole time

I was even with the other two that means I was the cheater I was the liar so I was collecting cheaters and living a lie with these people went because i was actually married the whole time like they were the adultery not the you know what i mean like that was huge like i was like oh my god this is like way big way big amazing that's so interesting yeah i never ever think of that we're not actually legally married I really don't believe in the contract we actually celebrate our anniversary on November 7th and so oh perfect yeah I mean we we have we did get married we had a ceremony and the guy who helped me reverse all that like ended up marrying us we got him to marry us and he's he's actually

passed now but uh you know we wanted our kids there and just for them to have a visual my daughter my our daughter not to like this past year just realized we weren't married she's like you're not married and i was like i was like no we're. And she's like, well, you must be doing something right because you're the only parents I know that are together. Aw. Well, yeah, my parents and his parents were both like, finally, like, apparently, I didn't know this until later. But, like, his mom would ask, like, about me every Christmas or every you know they're like I wonder what Chornel's doing I wonder you know have you ever reached out have you ever thought about reaching out because he was alone you know for a while and every time that would happen you know

she would encourage him to reach out and like his mom and my mom have the same birthdays and like it's just it's crazy but I mean and she actually just passed in January which was really really difficult and I was with her and when she left and she's got four other boys and when we were together you know right before she was dying she was like you know I've known you not more than all the other wives you know because I've known you since you were 17 and you're like my daughter and but yeah isn't that crazy like like what is marriage and what is you know you guys I'm sure are married on an energy level that it's like some other platform of dimension of marriage you know so what is actual divorce and what is marriage and you know what is twin flames or I

don't know but it's cool and it's healing and it's fun and pretty interesting i think that i was trying to live this american dream i wanted to be a mom i wanted to have the house just pretend to be like this perfect family and i was trying i mean i always laugh because you know i'm from Louisiana I'm from New Orleans originally oh you really where are you now in Colorado okay I'm in Louisiana did you know no I didn't I thought you're in Montana I don't know I'm from Montana but I'm in Louisiana right now I'm where are you at I'm in Denham Springs, right outside of Baton Rouge. Okay. Yeah. Wow. That's so crazy. Oh, this is getting scarier.

I know, right? How did we not know each other before this? We probably did. Yeah. Yeah. You're right. You're right. Anyway.

You understand. So you understand that Southern roles of women. I remember my mom coming up to me at my son's first birthday and her saying, aren't you going to feed your husband? And this is the first time I've ever had like a party for a whole family and stuff. And I was like, I get to feed my husband. Like I waited my whole life to be in this role. And I was excited about it. And looking back, I'm like, my purpose was to serve and to be a mother and a martyr. And I worshipped that life. Like that's what I thought. And it turned into freaking pain.

That stress and anxiety. And oh my God, stop. I just realized I've never wore this in my life. I've had it in my closet for about a year. And I went in and I was like, what am I going to wear for this? And I just picked it up. I'm like, Oh, I've never wore it. The only Louisiana shirt I own. I've been here for 20 something years. I've never bought. I've never bought a Louisiana shirt in my life. I just don't wear anything with Louisiana because I'm Montana. My husband's from here and

my parents are still here. But also, I had this angst about being here for so long. And now I'm in the hole. Thank you, God, because I get to be with my parents in Louisiana. Thank you, Louisiana, for letting me be with my parents. They just live up literally walking distance. Thank you, God, that I met my husband because he's definitely Louisiana. I mean, he is like straight. Is he from here?

Is he from there? He's born. Diane is? Yes, he is. What's his last? I mean, I can take this out, but what's his last name? It doesn't matter. Sihon is my, you know, which by the way, going back, I never took on a man's last name and

I never did it the first time or the second time. And it was a big like deal to take Han Sihan I still kept my Warburton but it was huge for me to take Sihan but when he pulled out all those like letters that I had written to him I always signed it Shornel Sihan like when I was a little kid I thought you know like that was a contract that was some sort of loyalty thing that was literally like my path and I didn't but also even with changing it because all my books have Sean L. Wolverton on you know all my CDs on my everything we branded Sean L. Wolverton so it was a whole rebrand you know just to add seat one but it was worth it to me because it was like that's a part of me now like that is that was a part of me when i was 17

all the way i just didn't know it and now i know it and it's okay to go ahead and take his name so still have a lot of stuff that says wolverton only but most of everything has changed the thing i've learned about because i also am a genealogist and so this is my passion ancestry if you're from Louisiana then you're usually related in some way somewhere wow what if y'all related oh probably are I mean like Louisiana history is something else but I tell you it's also been a forgotten history i feel like people don't understand that louisiana was even parts of colorado where i'm sitting right now was once louisiana we could be speaking french right now and not english you know and new orleans is so cool i mean it's just like

just old and the buildings and like anyone who's you've got to go to new orleans if you've never been to new orleans i mean it's something to experience like orange quarter is amazing all the art and the people and the food oh my god yeah right the snowballs i'm so jealous i know you be getting them snowballs oh my god my husband should be a chef like he loves cooking and i'm so glad because i cannot stand it you mentioned I get to cook for my husband my husband literally and his best friend is a chef and he actually picks like all this Cajun food and does like buffets for celebrities and wow all this like stuff and he'll call my husband all the time and they're like well what about this what about this

and they change things up and they change recipes up and when we all get together they just like cook for days and i'm just like the food well guess what my partner cooks for me cajun food because he learned i'm like he must have been cajun in your past life or something thank god is he is he from new orleans where's oh no girl he is deeply rooted colorado total region like oh i'm norwegian my parents my grandparents are from scandinavia they're from yeah in denmark so is that seriously he's danish and norwegian and they're like he's only like third generation here me too me too my my grandparents okay so on both sides there's Norway and Dane and then I do have one grandfather who's English but we actually went to Norway and Denmark god we have so many synchronicities this is really scary I don't think I've ever met anyone

with so many things that were I know it's so random i'm definitely gonna have to meet you and you know when i was looking at your stuff this morning and i saw the science of miracles remembering the frequency of love that's so perfect for this conversation right now but i would love to know what that book is about because I was very curious yeah I had an encounter that sort of like birthed this book and the whole concept I guess is like finding where there may have been snags whether it's relational issues or financial issues or you know just seeing negative patterns like over and over and you're just like oh my god this again I thought I was like over this and using different tools through imagination

through conscious language through the physical 3d like you talked about your healing journey and I had the same exact one which is like what and you actually said something you said that your body led you into the spiritual journey because you were sick and that for me too I was sick which led me to leaving the western thing because it just wasn't working for me and then going more to the root but and as far as going to the root issues ended up meeting a lot of people who are both spiritual and naturopathic and so I was introduced to all these like frequency machines like hyperbaric and infrared and red light and pmf and you know lasers and ozone and all the stuff that I just freaking love and

essential oils and crystals and everything that's frequency, you know, reverse engineered my situation. But in the same time meeting these people, they had different spiritual ideas than I was ever really introduced to and or even felt like I was allowed. And so it was having to deprogram and deconstruct like all of this mass programming that I had because I did go to Bible school in Alexandria Louisiana and then I went to seminary in New Orleans and I left seminary in New Orleans because I kept having these dreams like it's time to go it's time to leave and it was terrifying to me because I knew I wanted to be in ministry and that was that seemed like the only path that I could do ministry with and my undergraduate bible school they would not allow a woman to even be in full-time ministry I could not major in religion and they were like oh maybe you can marry like a nice pastor or you

could be a missionary in China where it's accepted and allowed but but, you know, and I was like, what, so I don't have the right body parts, and I could go to China, and I'm fine, but, you know, it's like, anyway, so there was just a lot of, like, like, hypocrisy, and just, like, things that didn't align, it makes any kind of common sense to me, and I finally did leave, but it was such a terrifying thing, because I thought that was my only path to ministry. And here there's all these other paths to ministry. You know, we're all serving in a different capacity. And, um, but that was again, part of my journey of just learning and unlearning. You're not going to believe this. Do you know that I wanted to be a pastor? Wow. Yeah. Wow. I mean, in many ways,

my path is still there. It's like there was all these little hints right along our lives. And we even if we didn't follow him, we still ended up to where we are right now today. And looking back, it's like everything was, you know, kind of set before us. If we would have, you know, been more present, maybe we would have seen it earlier. And no, I don't want to be a pastor, but yet there's still like this religious study and teaching and sharing without all the dogma. Right. Yeah. And just loving people and encouraging people to remember their love and their path. Like I feel like my big destiny is to live true. And to help people embody their truth.

And whatever that is. Even if it's like total opposite of mine. Like I'm cool and I celebrate everybody where they're at. Which you know in the past that was not the case. I was pretty judgmental in the religious aspect. I'd be like oh you're listening to that music. Oh you're eating that thing. Oh you're not going to church on Sunday you know that that used to be my mindset you know turn or burn kind of thing and I was like oh that's so gross and mean

and ugly and just yeah terrible but now I'm just like yeah just, just be, you know, enjoy being and do your thing. And I may not even agree with you, but it's like, I'm cool where you're at. Awesome. I celebrate you. You know, it took me a while. I was really mad for a long, long time. It took me a while. But when I realized I was like, well, you know, it served its purpose because I could

have been like a drug dealer or on the street, you know, or dead or, you know, because I had eating disorders at the time. And I'm a very black and white person. So probably if I had done cocaine or something, you know, I would have just been like, okay, I'm a cocaine addict now, cancel clear. So, you know, like, or drink or I just never did anything because I was so afraid to be wrong or to be looked at or judged or that God would be mad at me that was the biggest and now it's like okay well if that

kept me alive and clean from all that kind of lifestyle then that maybe you know and I met a lot of cool people and you know I met a lot of cool people and, you know, I met a lot of people that I wouldn't have anything to do with this minute, but I celebrate them. And there's a reason that I chose that and experience those things. And I have a lot of passion and compassion for people still there. And I'm just like, you know, okay, it's not my path anymore. Before I used to be like, what? You're not where I am. Like, you you know don't you want to learn this and I wanted people to like experience what I was feeling the freedom you know but not everybody wants to and so then I kind of had to just be okay and then sometimes I'll post things and they'll like troll me and say like oh my god you're going to hell and it's just like okay thanks

love you you know it's like before i would be like why can't you say blah blah blah and i would need to explain and be right and like then i realized this is just ego like who cares like let them believe what they want to it's fine you know right or also like you you're just going for one religion and dogma and thinking you're right to the next you know and i definitely experienced what they call now, you know, religious trauma syndrome. I was mad. And then I came to the place where I felt the same. And I, you know, I know that my grandparents prayers, you know, got me through, you know, dark times. And I always felt like my, my mom, so, you know, what a mom is, you know, she had a direct line to source that was powerful. And I used to feel like, you know, she was a martyr and she should have loved herself more. And, you know, I went from

worshiping that love, that martyr, to, you know, being afraid to ever be like that. And then I had to find a balance somewhere in between. And I'm with you. I mean, everyone has their own journey and are at their own stage of where they're at. And yeah, just, I respect that. I, you know, what happens outside of me really is none of my business. I love that. What happens outside of me is none of my business. I love that. I want to steal that. That's cool. Yeah. Have fun. Do your thing. You know, my dad, when he passed away almost nine years ago, he had this little kid rock collection is like, you know, they had like these little trays and it was like his little kid handwriting. And I was taking a Reiki class at the time. And the Reiki master had said, bring some gemstones. And I was like, I don't have anything like that. And then I was like,

wait a second. I wonder if my dad does in his rock collection. And so I pull it out and I started to hold some of them. And I noticed that my hands were affected. And I'm realizing, wow, there's an energy that's like affecting my hand. It's my whole hands are reacting. I'm like, this isn't woo woo. Like this is a real thing that's happening to my hand. This isn't magic. I'll have to send you my card deck crystals oils and decrees yes and it tells like on the back like what they do and that has a decree

that equals the frequency and that has the companion oils that work best with that crystal but I feel it in my phone like if I hold my phone too long my hand it starts shooting pain up I have these little protector things on there I'm extra sensitive to crystals and they do record and have memory so when you get those boxes out you're like this is my dad like you could probably feel him and the resonance of like him touching all of them, they all have recording of your dad's essence. Isn't that so cool? I mean, out of all the things that my dad left, that was just priceless to me. Oh, cool. He picked all of those.

I mean, he used to go to little kid shows, you know, with his brothers. And they'd go all around, you know, they were like, they were like the Griswolds, right? We were too, a little bit. You know, we'd go take drives all over to different states and he would collect rocks everywhere. That's so sweet. And you had one of them. They became kind of like one of the first tangible experience of mine that showed me that energy was a real thing and it really wasn't woo-woo like this was science um I mean I really I have a lemurian crystal quartz that I really am attached

to I guess it depends on what I need in my life When my dad died and I pulled those out, I was so attracted to this rose quartz he has. Actually, it's right here. It's amazing. But it fit in my hand and I didn't know it at the time what it was doing, but it was calming my soul, my energy. And it was comforting and it was loving. And I didn't even know it. I would carry it everywhere with me. And then of course, when I went through this period where I couldn't get enough meditation and I was very, very attracted to hematite. I didn't realize it at the time either, but I needed to be grounded. You know what I mean? I needed to be anchored to earth.

Yeah, this is Rose Quartz. It says, crystal for unconditional love gives the ability to accept ourselves and others in full love and ease. The soothing energy of the crystal ignites a caring heart and the ability to truly see and feel others hearts rose quartz aids in transmitting the pain of resentment and anger into joy love and peace this is a great support to the circulatory the circulatory system kidneys adrenals and lung issues the decree is i am love and i stay. And the companion oils are rose, sandalwood, alang-alang, and frankincense. Love that. This is the rose quartz, I mean, that I was carrying.

But look at this amethyst that my dad had. Ooh, that's a nice chunk. It's like almost crystal clear, too. I love that. I have an amethyst on my desk my mentor who has now passed he gave me his amethyst when he passed and I'd actually given him brought one with him because I knew he was gonna go and um oh gosh I went and I asked I said hey can I can I give this to you so you could sleep next to it because I was going

to have to leave the next day and he was like um no honey because I don't know where it's going to end up I want I want you to keep it and he had one next to his bed already which I didn't know and it was from his wife who had passed and so I like oh okay and so I started to take it back and then I said well can you just like pray over it or put a blessing on it or something so he took it for a minute and he just held it and um because I had said actually I said put your love in it yeah and he gave it back to me and he said I put my big love in it and he gave it back to me and then I walked out I was really sad I'm just like overwhelmed and walked out to the next room and a few minutes later his daughter came out and she said he wants you to have this one too and it was the one next to his

bed that was his wife's that was really really meant something to him and so now I had two and they were both you know just that recording so I get the whole like father connection with that 11 11 was the day that that happened and then he passed on the 25th but um isn't it crazy how things can just be so meaningful like a stone or know, and I usually keep it on my desk or carry it in my pocket, just like you do with your rose quartz. I keep that amethyst. I carry it around. I have a little pouch. Sometimes I'll wear it when I go travel, you know, if I can, well, when I did his ancestry, I also was studying, you know, gemstones.

And I was like, well, what is, you know, connected to Czechoslovakia? And it's Moldavite. And so I had a client at the time who was from there. And he brought Moldavite. And I actually wore Moldavite for about two years that's a strong one that's really kick ass I can't wear it now I try I've tried to put it back on like I think I took it off for whatever reason and could not put it back I still can't I can't put it back on I can wear it during the day but if I have it on on very long, I mean, I want to rip it off.

I mean, like, it's very intense. It is intense. Isn't it? It's just interesting how they are alive. Like, Tesla says they are alive. They really are alive. And they're for us, you know? That's why I feel with that.

That's why I say that Lemurian crystal, of course, you know, the lines in it are what really get me. Like I'll just sit there and rub the lines all day. I had one on my lap and wrote this entire book. I had just bought it. I had an encounter. I'm not going to say, a lot of it came from the encounter, but I also attribute it a bit to this Lemurian. Cause I literally just held it and wrote the entire book like with it on my lap 12 hours later it was like a book yeah yeah tell everybody where

they can get that book and where they can find you sure yeah I'm at drshornel.com it's dr it's d-r-s-h-a-r-N-A-E-L, like Israel. And I have biofeedback scans I could do remotely. I do soul audits where we can check like, you know, your biofield, your consciousness, you know, what chakras could be out or if the female and the male energies are balanced. We can find your five top kind of snags in the programming that would create, that would stop you from abundance. But yeah, I have five books that are on the website. I have my podcast on Thursdays at noon every week and it's called True TV. And we like to have fun people like you on and just talk about things like we're talking about today um but yeah i have all kinds of workshops as well i have emfs

and grounding devices and my cards yeah and i'll have to send you like my book and my card deck if you send me your address i'll i'll get it out to you but um i'd love to see you guys like i i say this every time but i did conference speaking for 17 years or 20 years and i love being in front of people in real life and hugging them and hearing this story and that eye contact and i love platforms like this because i don't have to be on a plane and i could just do like seven interviews today and you know touch a lot of people and talk to a bunch of people but I do miss like the eye contact so if any of you guys are watching and you're like oh you know I saw this you know give me a little hi and then I can just go oh you're who I was talking to and send you good vibes and connect with you or if you want to work with me I'm open for that but

I appreciate you letting me have this time with you. And I feel like I literally met an old friend or like a sister. I know. I mean, we might be related through our. Yeah. Me and your husband are related or maybe. I know. I mean, this could go really, really deep. Lots of things, but yeah.

Anyway, I enjoyed this so much and i hope that we see you somewhere around thank you so much it's been a pleasure thank you so much thanks for listening to sense of soul Podcast and thanks to our special guest. If you want more of Sense of Soul, check out my website at senseofsoulpodcast.com. It's time to awaken.