Sense of Soul - Sacred Geometry with Oliver Niño

Episode Date: September 23, 2022

Today on Sense of Soul we had on 'The Spiritual Activator,' Oliver Niño, a spiritual advisor, sacred geometry and energy activation expert, thought leader, and the creator of the Geo Love Healing Methodology, Oliver has reached almost two million students on his mission to teach others how to clear, protect, and unblock their energy so they can attract more abundance, love, and purpose in their lives. As The Spiritual Activator, Oliver focuses on teaching people how to identify, activate, and master their spiritual gifts. He works on the entire energetic system, going straight to the root of the issue with one's aura, chakras, blood, organs, physical body, cellular level, DNA, gestational, generational, and karmic. His healing usually takes effect after only one session, rather than over a course of a long period of time.    Oliver’s teachings and energy activation sessions have profoundly impacted the lives of public figures like Nina Dobrev, Gwyneth Paltrow, Donna Karan, Demi Moore, Gerard Butler to personal development legends like Tony Robbins. He has also worked with numerous CEOs, thought leaders, leading motivational speakers as well as everyday people.  Coming up, in 2023, Oliver will be releasing his first book through Hay House called ‘Spiritual Activator,” as well as is preparing his retreat center in Dolores Colorado where he and his wife followed the call to create a healing and connecting experience for their guest, near the high energy vortex of the 4 corners. You can now preorder his book now, join his workshop, classes and more at his websites.  https://www.thespiritualactivator.com/ https://authenticlivingheartland.com/lodging/ Follow his journey on social media, Facebook, Tik Tok and IG @spiritualactivator Visit Sense of Soul at www.mysenseofsoul.com Do you want Ad Free episodes? Join our Sense of Soul Patreon, our community of seekers and lightworkers. Also recieve 50% off of Shanna’s Soul Immersion experience as a Patreon member, monthly Sacred circles, Shanna’s Mini Series “The Allegory of the Divine Goddess of Wisdom” (Sophia) and Mande’s personal NDE mini series, Sense of Soul merch and more. https://www.patreon.com/senseofsoul Thanks to our Sponsors! KACHAVA: www.kachava.com/senseofsoul ATHLETIC GREENS: https:// athleticgreens.com/senseofsoul  

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and much more. And it's a great way to help support our podcast so that we can continue to bring you inspiring episodes twice a week with our enlightened guests from all around the world. Check out our Patreon. Today we have with us the spiritual activator, Oliver Nino. He is a sacred geometry and energy activation expert, a thought leader, and the creator of the GeoLove healing mythology. Oliver's mission is to teach others how to clear, protect, and unblock their energy so that they can attract more abundance, love, and purpose in their lives, and how to identify, activate, and master their spiritual gifts. Oliver has reached millions around the world, and we are so excited that he is reaching you guys today on Sense of Soul.

So thank you so much, Oliver, for being with us. How are you? Good. How are you? Great. I'm so excited to talk to you. Same here. Where do you live?

Colorado. What? Yeah, we talk to you. Same here. Where do you live? Colorado. What? Yeah, we own a retreat center down here. So I'm actually at the retreat center, but I live right next to it. Yeah. Wait a minute. You're in Colorado. Yeah. So are we. We're in Colorado. Well, Mandy's in Parker. I'm in Aurora. Oh, I'm in Dolores, Colorado. It's like near Cortez, Telluride, Durango area. So my wife and i we uh purchased the retreat center a few years ago um right before covid hit right right before and we were led here and before we actually signed the documents covet broke out and everybody was like no no no don't do it don't do it but we're like you know what when we have those intuitive pings that come strong it's like

we live by divine law and divine guidance. So when that comes in, it overrides everything human. So for us, it's the best thing that we've ever done. And let's get a sacred space, sacred land where people could come and transform, have their biggest breakthroughs and healings. And right now I'm actually in a studio that we're still building on the land because we're in 60-plus different countries. So, yeah, not everybody can travel here. so we have people here live that typically do our events

and i would say about 90 to 95 percent of our clients just join in virtually from all over the world so we kind of have both like we have it to where we're teaching live and streamed live and we have it to where something like this is completely just virtual and it's pretty cool because we just wanted to be able to, you know, serve at a deeper level and at the same time, like do it in like a higher quality way than we've been doing it in the past. So yeah, that's kind of like where we're at right now. Well, definitely we need to get there.

You guys are invited. We're literally neighbors. You guys are welcome anytime. Oh my gosh. So I've been doing this side podcast and it started with the Gnostic Gospels. And it just, there was so much synchronicity happening to me as I was discovering them. And so I had to put it all together and I had to do it slowly. I have 20 minute little episodes. And right now where I'm at, it's crazy.

I have no idea how I got here. But it has much to do with sacred geometry. It also has to do with vibration. And I was researching Solomon because I'm researching Sophia. But the shit that I'm discovering is like, we're talking about ancient things, but they are with us today in a more evolved way. It's a rabbit hole. And I started getting into it in 06, 07. And it never ends.

You see it in every different culture, every different religion. It's all there. And it's very interesting. Like, it's everywhere you look. The sacred geometry is there, you know? I know. And that's why I'm glad we haven't talked a lot about it. So you got to tell us how you got the nickname,

the spiritual activator. It's credit to my wife. So I've been in the spiritual journey since like 06-ish. And like a few years afterwards, I was in Sedona and I was meditating in a vortex and something happened to where it just activated my ability to activate people's spiritual gifts. I didn't know that at that time. I was completely clueless.

So I remember, fast forward a few years later, like I'm hanging out with my wife. We're dating back then. And her spiritual gifts, her just channeling started coming up, right? I didn't think anything of it. I'm like, okay, cool. Just starting to buy channels. Next thing you know, we've had all these different friends that visited us in the span of a few years and every single one of them their gifts started activating activating activating so my wife was like do you realize that

everybody you're around when they're near you their spiritual gifts open up and i'm like no way i started that pattern and i was like wow it is. I started that pattern. And I was like, wow, it is. When I realized that I was doing, she's like, you're a spiritual activator. I'm like, I don't even know what that is. So I became intentional about, listen, if I have this gift and it's unconscious, I want to do it consciously. So that was the beginning of the awareness that I was doing that. You said your spiritual journey starts back in 2006. Was there some sort of event or something that happened in your life? Well, a lot of it was I moved from the Philippines, right? And it was a completely brand new, you know, moving here, like no friends, no social

circle. And I just didn't know, like how to survive in a new environment. So I threw myself a personal development and growth. And I remember that it could only get me somewhere. Like, you know, the mind and emotions is beautiful to work at it, but it's like, slow. And I couldn't get where I wanted to fast. And I felt like I hit a glass ceiling. And one of my friends, he was a psychic, you know, and she was like, you know what, you've got energy block, you got to get him removed. I'm like, what are energy blocks? And she's like, oh, it's in your, you know, your chakras and your auric field. I'm like what are energy blocks and she's like oh it's in your you know your chakras and your auric field i'm like you're speaking another language i do not understand what this is

right but i was open-minded so she's like okay you gotta meet my friend who's a healer from australia so i met this guy he did a healing on me a clearing on me and i was skeptical the whole way through and i'm like this is a bunch of like in my mind this is mumbo jumbo like you know what's this i've never smelled sage in my life. Like, and I've never heard the music, like, the chantings and the ums and all that stuff. That was very, very new to me. Especially back then, like, spirituality wasn't sexy. So when they were dressing in spiritual wear and mala beads, I'm like, this is, it was all foreign to me, right?

But I was like a good sport. I was like, okay, sure, why sure why not like let me try it out and he removed a few abundance blocks that i had and uh and he said you know what in about a few weeks you'll start receiving more abundance and true enough in the fifth week mark i made more in a day than i did an entire year and i didn't change anything at all everything was the same the only thing i did different was the energy clearing. And I'm like, oh my gosh. Now, mind you, in two months time, I spent all of it because yeah, energy gets you there fast, like literally fast, but it doesn't guarantee that it's going to stay there. My mind and my emotions weren't programmed for it. So I was like buying vacations, paying off bills, like paying off student loans for my sister,

helping my mom. I was just like, I wasn't used to that level of abundance. I gave it all away, spent it. But I learned one really, really important thing that energy can get you there fast. And if you want to keep it, you got to work on your mind and emotions to kind of get used to that level of abundance. But energy is the way to go. You know, I have like the same story. Wouldn't you say, Mandy, I was manifesting all this money. And just like you, though, I spent it all rather quickly. Afterwards, I was looking around going, what did I get? Right? Yeah, that's the key. And that's when I realized, like, if you people look at people like

lottery winners, they win money, even though they're not some of them, some of them aren't, you wouldn't look at them and say you're the highest vibration, but energy moves mountains and people are manifesting all the time. So they win that, but then their mind and emotions come in self-sabotage. And next thing you know, five, 10 years later, they did a study, then most of them

are in a worse financial situation than they were before they won, right? But it kind of gave me an idea that like this energy thing, it works whether you believe it or not. And it can get you me an idea that like this energy thing, it works whether you believe it or not. And it can get you there fast. And once I realized that, that's when I kind of like made it a life mission to be like, hey, if this is what I can do with energy, then screw it. I'm just going to see how deep the rabbit hole goes, you know? Yeah. Were you taught about energy by your family or how were you raised when it came to spirituality? It was taboo, but it's not. So I grew up in a very strict Catholic household. But if you know,

you've studied any anything about the Filipino culture, there's a lot of these rituals and a lot of these like beliefs that are almost like energetic in nature. So I grew up in a way to where it's like, okay, one part it's like you know you can't do that and the other part my mom's like all right let's get somebody let's get a medicine man who cleared the house and a piece of spirits and it was just like it seemed subtle but it was a part of my environment it was very normal it was not like somebody sat me down and and talked about this like you know one-on-one and said hey you know you're a healer here you're a gift it was just everywhere around me everybody was talking about it like it's normal

was part of the culture so yeah safe to say I grew up around it environmentally as conversation and as things that were being experienced like you know saw my mom okay they're buying fruit and they're offering it to the spirits of the land and they're burning stuff and the medicine man has to go like someone's sick and nobody can figure it out medicine has to go in there and do some stuff and then they're they're better and so for me it was just like okay it's just what happens right so it wasn't really a big ooh energy thing it was just like part of the culture is what i thought growing up my mom was like she would dream about things and it would come true like every single time like if somebody

had a birthday she would dream about them and not know their birthday next thing you know the next day is their birthday and whenever i pointed out mom you're like oh no no no that never happened you don't want to be labeled that in you know our religion growing up you can't be psychic but hey if my dad was speaking tongues in church that's fine call him channeling or doing that thing. It's like, oh no. Honestly, it's like the way I look at it is God, higher power universe, whatever your listeners believe in, there's a language of higher power and vibration and sacred geometry and patterns. But the ones that are easier to understand is the signs that come to us every single day. Some people might hear like the voice of a higher power in their head, but for some people it's numbers. It's synchronicity. They see 11-11, 2-2-2, 3-3-3, animals, bird flies, song comes. People in their life that come in and events are totally guided by a higher power, but you've got to be able to shift the way you look at what's coming at you or what you're feeling to be able to understand it but the communication is always there it's just that it's not always going to be what we're imagining which is a megaphone

or a speaker into our head and that two-way communication it's a in my experience a higher form just very different it's not you know and for some people it's like literally yeah somebody has to channel in front of them and receive that message. But for the most part, we're guided. We just need to know what the signs look like. And it's different for everybody. And have awareness. Being present and then having that awareness. So the divine has been speaking to you through sacred geometry.

Tell our listeners what that even means. So yeah, people have different ways of connecting to a higher power, right? So for me, sacred geometry is like, if you look, if you think about sacred geometry, it's everywhere in life. You just Google sacred geometry in nature and you can see it in trees and patterns in wood and seashells, right? And you know, it's everywhere. And if you look at our bodies, you know, the DNA is a spiral, right? If you look at that, you zoom in closer, it's like, we have octahedrons in our body, like two pyramids back a spiral right if you look at that you zoom in closer it's like we have octahedrons in our body to like two pyramids back to back if you like really zoom in in the patterns of the dna and then you have cells are spherical in nature so sacred geometry is

outside of us and inside of us right so what i realized if you look at it that way it's the pattern language of creation and it's different for everybody. For some people, they never need to know what sacred geometry is and they're gifted. For me, it was just like, that was my path, right? But the way I communicate mostly is things come to me. Because some people are, they're knowers. Just things, they just know. It just comes to them, they know, and they don't know why they know. They just know. They can't even tell you how, they just do. And for some people, like, you know, they dream about stuff or they feel things even tell you how they just do and for some people like you know they dream about stuff or they feel things in their body or they do automatic writing and things channel to them through you have to speak it or for sometimes it's external like you know it's again it's the

messages in the songs or the movies that you watch or all of a sudden people in your life that same day same week come up and they present this pattern showing up right so i look at it as like when something needs to be heard and received by you from a higher power then you start off as a whisper it's gradually going to get bigger and louder to where it's everything around you is going to start like pointing you to that direction you need to be heading right so it's pretty interesting the the cycle of how the owl works. I don't know if you've noticed this in Colorado, but snowflakes. On occasion, these snowflakes are just perfect and they don't melt right away.

So they're like sitting there on your sleeve. They are so magical. They're mystical. And then they make me think about the one experiment i forget the doctor's name dr i think it's michael somebody emoto he studied the water right there you go this is where science is catching up with with the spiritual world science is always delayed a lot of things happening spiritually that science is just catching up on but yeah i mean you can see it in in a water i think with that experiment like you know it was like measuring like love hate and different emotions and they you'd see if you zoom in on the water structures that it would change structurally depending on the emotion and it's

the same if you see these um viral videos they already have like i think sand on top of something and they play certain music and based on the certain music that they play the sand starts forming different sacred geometry structures and it's different, right? That's one of the things is like the way I look at it, it's visible, but it's very invisible, but it's also exists everywhere and everything affects it. Our emotions, things that we're hearing,

things that we're being exposed to, but probably the simplest way to put it is sacred geometry is the language of creation. You can access different energetic frequencies and consciousness with it. It can magnify energy. It can hold energy in it structurally so energy can live in it. I've used it to protect at the beginning when I needed protection. It was definitely for all the empaths that are out there listening.

I used it for protection. And then you can eventually use it for elevating your consciousness as well. I've been studying this story of King David and his harp and his lyre and how when he would play it for King Saul, King Saul would be in this little protection bubble of nothing, no negativity could come into him and he would be released of all of the negativity and

evil and demons whatever they said and so i was thinking about that comparing it to the soul of feggio and scalar energy it is like you know i mean i my wife geeks out on scalar way she worked with scientists we you know we have the technology so we know what it does and the thing is everything has a sacred geometry pattern to it. So if somebody is channeling, at that moment, they have sacred geometry around them that they don't know about. But when somebody who can see energy, I can. I have some of my students who I've helped who can.

And they see the energy, it looks different. When somebody is psychic and they're using that, it's different. When there's certain technology being used, like CERN and particle accelerators and all that scalar, it does affect our energetic field. Therefore, you will see a certain geometric visual from the reaction that we have to it. So I've seen it with everything, with life and death, their sacred geometry. If you look at the the bonacci sequence and the golden spiral it's like it's everywhere so it's more like everything in life whether it's you know you think of it as good or bad whether it's man-made or natural or your technology base

and i've seen it a few times but for people who really really see it it's like almost like another sense right you know my daughter woke up with two diamonds connected on her in fact she showed me pictures of the progression over the week and really hasn't gone away it almost looks like a scratch but it's like even like it's geometry it's insane yeah I mean when my wife and I were first dating and like you know we fell asleep we were holding hands she's very gifted as well and when i woke up this thing formed it was the crop circle that i typically use for doing healings whoa it kind of welted up a little bit and i was like i didn't know what it was but towards the end of the day it would form the spiral pattern perfectly of what i was using and i'm like oh my gosh this is like kind of thing

you know that's one of the things that i've realized is that it can happen wow it's like you got a natural tattoo yeah at first i was like what was i allergic to did i like you know did i sleep on something that had chemicals doing the logical thing because it took the whole day to unfold wow i have been looking at symbolism over the years because, you know, I'm a Reiki master teacher. And so at first I was like, nah, symbols can't hold that much power. You know, that was my thoughts at the beginning. And then I looked at my house and I saw the crosses that I had on the wall. And then in my ancestry, learning about like the floor to lead and looking at even the

swastika, how originally it didn't mean what we see it as today, but that's what we think, you know, symbolism is so interesting and it has an energy behind it that's powerful. And that's the biggest thing is a lot of these like, you know, like swastika, I mean, the symbol itself amplifies energy. It's not bad, but it's, in my mind, from an energetic perspective, it's what it was intended for. I look at sacred geometry like money, in a way, right? To where your intention dictates what it can be used for. Luckily, the higher sacred geometries, like, even if somebody got a hold of it, they tried malintention, it won't work. Certain sacred

geometries, they activate only based on vibration. So when someone's on a higher vibration, then they can unlock. Whereas if they're not, it just won't, which is pretty cool noticing that there's checks and balances even to that, you know? I also find it kind of terrifying that subconsciously and subliminally, we are fed with these symbols through tv through magazines just driving around buildings even the way our roads are made there's a lot of symbolism and geometry so how does one protect themselves from that kind of energy that maybe might not be good um it depends at the very beginning of my journey, it's like protection was necessary. It's crystals you can use, staging, you're doing things to clear your energy. At the very beginning, got to make i mean at least like and i prefer

that jump and i teach that jump is like you raise your vibration because when you do certain things just aren't available at higher vibration and your vibration becomes your protection right so awesome yes i totally agree let me ask you do you work with the merkaba at all yes mostly we use it for when we're healing somebody remotely and we're bringing their energetic body in front of us i use it more as a transport mechanism to keep their energetic body safe and intact when i'm working on them consider the vehicle like an actual vehicle but like for spirit yes absolutely so we use that for that purposes and also be used for astral traveling so it's you know a safer smoother ride as well wait i'm sorry so my thoughts are you use other sacred geometry to actually protect you it's like that it's a force it's like there

may be negative also using sacred geometry in their benefit because of course power can be used by both good and you know good and bad and if the wrong people get it are using it to their benefit and i think that that a lot of people in power have done that exactly example, the pyramid, you can magnify energy, make it potent, and it can also send out above what's in it potently as well. So it depends on who's using it. If you guys Google pyramid healing, there's a lot of case studies out there of like in Canada, somebody's, the burn ward, they put one side under a pyramid and one side not under a pyramid, and the one under the pyramid healed their burns faster than the one that wasn't. Or if people put a lot of vegetables and produce underneath it, and it stays fresher longer. And the one that I love the most was a brine shrimp. And one was underneath the pyramid, and one was not.

And the one that was underneath the pyramid lived three weeks longer than the one that wasn't right so a lot of it is pyramids wow keep whatever's underneath it operating the way it should regardless of external factors of ems radiations all those different things if you're underneath a pyramid you're operating optimally the way you should did you know because i found this to be so interesting but there's 22 triangles in the Merkaba that make up the Merkaba, which also I want to say, that they were told that they needed to create this, like, Merkaba. And they made actual 22 pyramids. And you know all of it's aligned also with the stars. I mean, like, people couldn't make up this shit. Yeah, and they were building pyramids back when there was no communication in different sides of

the world they were just building it as far as we know as far as we know but i feel like they got it all from the same source they channeled it and they built it and a lot of the underground pyramids underwater or buried they're being found today you know so there's way more to be discovered that's so fascinating oh my gosh the one thing I constantly see is triangles all the time. Like they just hold so much meaning for me. Do you think that people need to be more careful about what kind of symbols or geometry are on like their clothes or on something they carry around all the time or that's on even a painting in their home?

Can this affect them? I know you said, you know, if their vibration is high, it can't. But like if you're physically putting it on your body, what are your thoughts about that? Same answer, it's vibration. Like if you're in a high vibration, it doesn't matter if someone does black magic. It just doesn't even work, you know?

And if you're in a low vibration, everything affects you. It doesn't even have to be a sacred geometry. It can be a person who is next door to you will affect you, or someone who's thinking about you will affect you. If you look at it that way, then it is the way you live your life

becomes vibrationally based because I see it happen all the time. If we dip in vibration, all of a sudden all these problems show up that they weren't there a second ago. Well, since we dip in vibration, all of a sudden, all these problems show up that they weren't there a second ago. Well, since we dipped in vibration, they all are available there. They all show up.

It was interesting to me that one time I was really struggling reading some of our guests books. And I did some drumming before I read this particular book that I wasn't able to understand. And after I did the drumming, it was like the book, I could understand everything in it. Yeah. And a lot of the times too, is the sounds, if you think about it, they're one of the ways to clear energy and to access energy, right? What did they say? Like, you know, the different theories, like the universe was created with a big bang, like a sound created the universe, right? And if you think about it, back in that day,

when they still made the champagne glasses out of the same material, you have an opera singer singing a high C and it would shatter. And the same thing with Rife technology. They use vibration and sound, pretty much, to match whatever they're trying to eliminate, whatever disease that is, or bacteria. And the things we learned when we saw this in action in Europe is you don't want to match it exactly.

You want to go a few octaves above and below so you get everything in between. That's right around the frequency, right? But sound can create, can destroy, can activate, can remove blocks, can access higher dimensions. That's why breathwork, people do breathwork, and they're in ecstasy at times because when they're doing the breathwork, it takes them there, but sound can also higher dimensions. That's why breathwork, people do breathwork and they're in ecstasy at times because when they're doing the breathwork,

it takes them there, but sound can also do that. Breath can do that. Sacred geometry can do that. Intention can do that, right? But sound's very powerful. My guess is as you were doing that, you were removing the blocks that were preventing your crown

from accessing higher information at the same time bringing you higher, therefore it was easier for you to kind of tap in. Seems like it's very much connected to our vagus nerve, our nervous system, our DNA, our cells. Absolutely. When we did our studio, it was a lot of radiation. And we had some dirty electricity filters, technology,

all those different things mitigated all of it but when you were teaching my wife could feel in her vagus nerve it affects your heart it affects your you know parasympathetic system i'll be above right so she felt it so i went to the crystal store and i bought a ton of citrine a shungite and obsidian i put it all over the room and all of a sudden because the technology worked it got it 80 there but there's that little bit of like uh it's still you can still feel it and for me it's more of like in the power center and the heart for her it was more like vagus nerve in her back and like you know so when i put it all over the room all of a sudden like went away power of crystals i certify healers all over the world

and we do use certain sacred geometries and i have like quite a bunch of them that have sent me screenshots of the people that they worked with the most unhealable stuff once you understand sacred geometry and you realize even diseases have patterns energetically and if you're in the right vibration and you access the right healing frequency you are like the right machine and more you can you can do that we're we're able to do that you know the machines were actually role modeled based on people who are extremely gifted who can do this naturally right but we are the. And once we work on ourselves and activates higher levels of consciousness, we can do that. It's not uncommon. It's just that society makes

it seem like it's impossible or like, oh, you're making it up or too good to be true. But I've seen so much that's like undeniable, you know? I'm glad you brought that up about the gem. So, I mean, there's so many different ways you can alchemize like your space. Mandy and i were talking about that earlier we were talking about those 5g towers the mysterious we don't know you know what it is and why they're there because it's definitely not helping my cell phone get any better it can be anything it's the wi-fi it's the ems it's the microwave it is our soil is depleted so that this food has grown isn't nutritious anymore it is what's sprayed in the air what we're exposed to it is is everything everything

and anything it's social media it's the war for our consciousness and attention so it's everything but no one's looking at that you are you you're looking at that with your clients which i think is where most people need to get i mean you're not going to the doctor and you tell them all these symptoms. And the first thing they're wondering is how close you are to your 5g tower or, you know, what's going on in the energy around you that you can't see people just aren't thinking that way yet. But I'm so grateful that people like you are and bringing that awareness to people. Cause that's so important. I think that that is a lot of our sicknesses yeah i mean forget 5g things are 3g and then 4g you have towers underneath you got geopathic stress depending on the ley lines and so it's we came down here to lift this world up and this world is full of duality right so for me it's a lot of it is the best like i go back to it is the best protection a lot of

times is your vibration because when you're there i've seen a lot of people come in here like chronically ill 15 years they've done all the therapy surgery everything nothing happens they step into their spiritual gifts goes away because that vibration when embodied like it's like fire and water. Without the fire, you don't worry about all the other things catching. They just cannot coexist in a higher vibration. That's why they say no disease can last in an alkaline body. I look at it energetically.

Nothing negative can stick in a higher vibratory field if you embody it. You just can't. I had COVID and I remember Mandy calling me and saying, are you sure you want to do this? You know, you're sick. And I remember saying, no, I do. And by the time we got halfway through our amazing spiritual high vibe conversation, like we are right now, I didn't even remember I had COVID. Same thing.

I keep my vibration highs. That's matching normal day-to-day stuff. If we're having an event and we have like 100 people on the land that are all purging, that's a lot of external stuff. I can't just go in my normal day-to-day routine because now the situation calls for it to be elevated. You know what I mean? So if I'm teaching that, I'm fine.

If my wife's teaching that and it's not my event, you know, I'm fucked. I will feel sick even though I'm the other. I will feel tired, sick. I will feel all these emotions because as they're purging, my energy and body can feel it. I'm still human. I feel it. I'm still human. I feel it. So I have to proactively do things to raise my vibration and then it goes away.

I mean, when you're depressed, your vibration is low. When you're sick, your vibration is low. Health is a higher vibration. Absolutely. It is because a lot of people that come in here, I've seen them as like, yeah, I mean, Anthony Williams, a dear friend of mine, medical medium, and food does help. It does. But your vibration as you're doing it also matters in my experience. Do you guys use any plant medicines or anything to help people to do

their purging? Actually, we have not. I mean, we have a lot of, you know, people that we know and friends who, who do lead retreats. We have people who've done plant medicine who would come here and they would be like, what did you put in my tea? I'm like, there's nothing in your tea. Cause they can do the same thing. I mean, for us, we live the experience of what people experience in plant medicine on a daily basis. It's like, once you're in this realm, everything is like, it's almost like you got to work on being grounded because it's on a lot of the times. And there's a lot of different ways to get there for people. Some people, it's dancing, spending time with loved ones, laughing, doing their purpose work, helping somebody out, self-care.

It doesn't matter typically what gets you there as long as it gets you there, right? I'm curious about your land. It seems sacred already um where you host these retreats did you guys look at the ley lines or did you look at the land did you get to know the land after we were just guided here when we were here we felt the vortex energy and i remember it was like it was the middle of the snow it was for sale for five years they couldn't sell it we came in here in the middle of the snow and i am not a cold person i don't like but i'm from yeah you know tropical so anything under 60

i'm done yeah it gets up to like below zero here right and we looked at the land we saw a few rooms and i can because it can sleep 60 and we only probably saw like literally 10 of it and we're like we're getting it so the guy thought we were joking at first i'm like yeah serious we're getting it we did but then yeah we have labyrinths on the land i created a labyrinth like you know we have we have the only heart-shaped labyrinth that's 40 feet wide and it's the only one in the world we have it here we got pyramids on the land sacred geometry structures um geodesic domes and we and we even found and we have i'm not gonna mess with it but we have ruins on the land as well that we saw after we purchased it i'm like okay what'd you find i've never went in them they're at the top of somebody's house but their

ruins burnt underneath and i don't want to dig deep because i'm being respectful but we've got ruins in the land too wow that is so amazing so it's it is it is it's both the masculine and feminine energy so if you know a lot about vortex points feminine energy kind of like cradles you in divine love and you're just floating and you can just be whereas masculine energy typically for a vortex, like a whirlwind, it brings up all the crap. And all of a sudden, it's a whirlwind of stuff and people come in here

and they're like fighting and they're doing things and then they calm down. I'm like, all right, you guys, you must have needed the male energy. Out of nowhere, it comes out. And it comes out

so that you can be aware of it. You can purge it. You can heal it. Okay. So I have to ask you, do you, was your retreat center called Sophia we renamed it but it was yeah I was gonna say a while ago when you mentioned Sophia but I'm like let's let it play out

my god okay no she's been on like a year and a half long journey on this discovery of Sophia I mean yeah this has been my huge journey. So I just looked up because I was trying to get some images of your retreat. It's just, it never ends. Like you said earlier, it never ends. I'll go pack my bag. I'll pick you up in 20 minutes. I'll arrange babysitters. We've got a two week hiatus from events. So come on over. But before we move, it was called Sophia's Lodge for the longest time. If memory serves me, it was in the past called the Sophia Center, and there were nuns that were running it. You know what?

Now that you bring it up, we might just start tapping into the Sophia energy. To be honest, I haven't in the past, but it's coming up for a reason. Yeah, you should listen to Shanna's journey with it. It's beautiful, and more people need to tap into the Sophia energy. I mean, it listen to Shanna's journey with it. It's beautiful. And more people need to tap into the Sophia energy. I mean, it's happening whether people know it or not. What a cool synchronicity and tons of connections we're making. If people were to come down to your retreat, what does that look like for someone? Currently, it's close to the public. We only do it for our events. But since we're building a lot of pyramids on the land, like one of my friends, he built the pyramids in Burning Man.

I've never been to Burning Man, but he built a 111 foot pyramid in Burning Man. No way. If you Google Burning Man pyramid, he built it. So we're building one here similar to that. And it's going to be like concrete panels, like in a hardwood floor in it, you know, sound healing on the inside and it's just like all sacred proportions and we're gonna have a lot of them in the land where some of them can

fit 800 people kind of thing and we're doing we're gonna start doing lectures in there so yeah eventually my goal is to make this like the kind of like disneyland for spiritual folks they come in here and the land works on them and And it's the structure speak for itself. For now, a lot of it is just when we do events and retreats, which you guys could come to our next one as our guests. We have one coming up and you guys will love it. It's just for our folks right now, but we're planning on opening it up to the public,

hopefully soon after we get the structures up. So we sell a lot of courses online. I mean, our business is mostly digital. So we sell a lot of courses online. I mean, our business is mostly digital. So we have a lot of digital products that we sell. People that, you know, want to be energy healers, I certified them and my wife does the same for people who want to be life coaches. You know, we're blessed to have a lot of people

like supporting us from all over the world. I mean, right now, I think we have got like 3 million followers all over the world. And we're trying to reach way, way, way more. But we've been blessed over the years that the message just went, people just share it with their friends and family. And it's just reached and impacted a lot of people.

Because I think people are ready. They're ready for this. They're seeking. They know that there's something more than the little box that was created by the Pope. Yeah, amen. And it can't be stopped because it's an energetic shift and the more people open up their light you don't realize how much other people they impact

by just mere opening up their life it's a it's a butterfly effect that can be felt i really get like hooked up on words and i just looked up the meaning of dolores because that's where you are and it means um the sorrow the pain in Hebrew and in Spanish. I mean, so if, you know, people are feeling this, the sorrow, the pain, then go to this beautiful retreat. I found out that meaning like probably six months into moving here. And it made sense. That's one of the things that we have is like one of the driving forces is we want to end human suffering and take people from darkness and bring them to light, right? And a lot of people come in here and they release, they purge, they shift through the deepest, most painful things

that are holding them back and then they soar. The land facilitates the transmutation and the healing and the clearing of a lot of the heavy stuff, sorrow, one being one of them. Wow. And it also is what usually brings people to the light to begin with. It's usually that root, you know, I mean, we wouldn't choose to come back into a life that was just a bliss because we wouldn't, we wouldn't evolve in that way. I always think about that. This is just so divine. I just love what you're doing. I love the risk that you and your wife took. I can appreciate that. And I know that you guys knew that you were being led and that you trusted that for the greater good of the world.

And I also love the fact that you made me think about something. People can put out, like, how to manifest, how to heal, all this knowledge that maybe you received. But if there's not love behind it there's no intention for the greater good behind it then it's just knowledge that's all it is it's not wisdom it's just knowledge it's actually good for nothing and you know how that works because that's we've seen people when they just push knowledge knowledge isn't the solution um yeah that was the biggest thing because i was a knowledge seeker and my evolution didn't really speed up until doing things for the greatest good of all and working on embodying more love in my heart those two yeah allowed for more knowledge and light to be embodied in you versus

just intellectualized so when i when i realized that and then greatest good of all game over life's never been the same you know wow that's what i took away from this too from the very intellectualized. So when I realized that and then greatest good of all, game over. Life's never been the same. Wow. That's what I took away from this too, from the very beginning when you said that. And that was the piece that was missing for me last year, to smother it all in love and to remember that love piece. So thank you for that. I have to be honest with you. I failed math class over and over. And so when I heard of sacred geometry, I'm like, oh, fuck it. I won't be able to understand it. It has to do with math and geometry. All joking aside, I really was like, I won't be able to comprehend it. No, I mean, I'm not the, some people really geek out and they measure it and they're super accurate. I'm like, I feel the energy and i use it that's all it is if i had to measure it and create it with a ruler i would fail i can't do it it's mathematical i love that did you know that on saturn there's even a hexagon

yep i mean it's like all of these things they're not new they're maybe new to our eyes because we've been kept so small but these are these all around us like you know the ancient people knew the indigenous people knew you know for some reason it got lost because i think there's so much power in it and i think they were scared scared of sharing that power yeah uh-huh everybody that's exactly when everybody wakes up like and can't be controlled because they can think for themselves and their gifts are activated and they're in their highest potential, we'd have a very different world. A lot of things that are currently happening would collapse because it won't support a

lot of free thinkers who are in their light, in essence. You know what I mean? So I do believe there's been a concerted effort to just keep people at a certain level, for sure. But yeah, a lot of the sacred information again it can't be stopped because they have a conscience of its own and we're going through a wave to where people are getting woken up in masses energetically right we're in a very pivotal time for humanity and i feel like this is what we came here for is to be part of the show

and to wake people up. Right. And we're, we're all here doing that. Like you guys are doing it, spreading, you know, consciousness and positivity, waking people up and really connecting them to information that normally they don't teach in school. So where else are we going to get it? If not for people, you know, like both of you are spreading this out there. I mean, so, but it's, it's part of the work. It's part of the journey. I mean, that's my hope. My hope is that they do start implementing some of this into education for our youth, because that's another area where they're going to start losing students because they've evolved and they're bored in school and they want to learn more

because these younger generations are so smart and so open-minded and so gifted. My kids, I have an 11 and three-year-old, they're hands-on learners. They want to experience the world in an immersive way beyond the classroom, beyond the four walls. So the name of your method is called the Geo Love Healing Mythology. And now I totally get that a hundred percent. I think that you totally represented that today, but that is exactly what it is. I absolutely love you. I want to meet you and your wife. I'm sitting here thinking I wish your wife would have joined us. That'd be amazing. I'm serious. Like you guys can come on over. We've got plenty of rooms.

You know what? People are looking for these kinds of things to do. People asking me all the time. I think that what you're doing is very mathemagical. I've never heard that term, but I love it. You say. Well, you've been amazing. Can you tell our listeners where they can find out more about your center and more about your classes and workshops? I'm on Instagram, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube, but

Spiritual Activator, like at Spiritual Activator and just dig into my content. We share a lot of information about when we do events there as well. But I think that would probably be the next step is just follow me on social, check out all the free content. I probably have like, you know,

hundreds of hours of free stuff out there, just sharing the best techniques of what's worked. And hopefully it's, you know, it's helpful for your listeners. And do you have a book coming out maybe in 2023? I do. I do have one with hey coming up march it's actually an amazon as well you can people can pre-order it spiritual activator and um everything that i've learned in close to 20 years when it comes to energy spiritual gifts how to protect

yourself how to raise your vibration i try to pack all of them in one book and i think i did pretty well well you're welcome back you You know, when you release that, we'd love to have you on again. Oh, I'd love that. Thank you so much. And now it's time for break that shit down. The last thing probably is that you're, you're closer than you think. When you're doing things in the human sense, it's very, very slow. But when you tap into doing it in the energetic way, things are fast.

It could literally be one vibration away from what you want. And I've seen it happen so many times to where when you are on that vibration, decades become days. And the thing that you want is not far away. It's now. It shows up. where when you are on that vibration, decades become days. And the thing that you want is not far away. It's now. It shows up. And that's what I urge you to do is, like, yes, you've tried playing the human game for so long.

Try playing the divine one, the spiritual and the energetic one. Because that's our nature. And that's how we thrive in this world of duality is stepping into our nature owning it and learning how we work energetically because when you do things are never the same and you realize that we're not meant to live our lives always struggling and growing and healing like you know that's not the case that when you do it right healing stops you step into your purpose work and then you do what you're here to do which is to shine your light and spread your message healing is only a portion of your life it's not all of it and the fastest way in my experience to just get there is is energy so i would i would encourage and invite you all to just start digging into energy and seeing how you can bend time by doing that is my message.

Amazing. I feel like my vibe is so high right now. And I thank you so much for coming on and sharing this amazing high vibe conversation with us. Guys, thank you for having me. We really appreciate it. Thank you so much. It was a pleasure to meet you. And it won't be the last time we talk to you for sure. You're more than welcome here. We might not ever leave though. We've got a lot of land to have at it. Thanks for being with us today. We hope you will come back next week.

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