Sense of Soul - Secrets of Greek Mysticism

Episode Date: October 5, 2024

Today on Sense of Soul Podcast,  we have George Lizos, he is a psychic healer, Greek pagan priest, creator of Intuition Mastery School®, as well as a #1 bestselling author (Be the Guru, Lightworkers Gotta Work, Protect Your Light) and host of The Lit Up Lightworker and Can’t Hostpodcasts. He helps lightworkers to overcome the fears and limiting beliefs that prevent them from finding and following their life’s purpose of finding happiness, helping others to heal and ascending the vibration of the world.  George joined Shanna to share his book, Secrets of Greek Mysticism: A Modern Guide to Daily Practice with the Greek Gods and Goddesses. His first spiritual book about the Greek gods and goddesses written by a native, practicing priest of Hellenic Polytheism. Rather than presenting the gods and goddesses as symbolic, lifeless figures, Secrets of Greek Mysticism teaches readers how to find each god or goddess within them. This is achieved by explaining the deeper spiritual meaning of popular myths and through grounding insights on the gods’ virtues as they relate to modern life: practicing bravery with Ares, cultivating endurance with Demeter, and embodying love with Aphrodite. Check out his websites: www.greekmysticism.com www.georgelizos.com Check out my newest affiliate at www.senseofsoulpodcast.com    

Hello, my soul-seeking friends. It's Shanna. Thank you so much for listening to Sense of Soul Podcast. Enlightening conversations with like-minded souls from around the world, sharing their journey of finding their light within, turning pain into purpose, and awakening to their true sense of soul. If you like what you hear, show me some love and rate, like, and subscribe. And consider becoming a Sense of Soul Patreon member, where you will get ad-free episodes, monthly circles,

and much more. Now go grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. It's time to awaken. Joining us today is George Lissos. He's a spiritual teacher, intuitive, and the creator of Intuitive Mastery School. He's also a priest of Hellenic polytheism at the world's first modern temple of Zeus in Cyprus. He's also the author of many books, and today he's joining us to talk about Secrets of Greek Mysticism. It's his first spiritual book teaching the readers how to find each god or goddess within themselves. George explains a deeper spiritual meaning of popular myths and through grounding insights on the gods virtues as they relate to modern life. This is a topic that I want to learn more about. So I'm super excited today to welcome

George onto Sense of Soul podcast. Hi, George. Hello, how are you? I'm fabulous. How are you? I am well. I apologize for the hat. I just came from the beach and my hair is not presentable. Oh, I do have some beach hats over here. I could put one on. Oh, go for it. I love it. Channeling Aphrodite vibes. You know, honestly,

I can't wait to talk about this. Where are you from? I love your accent. Where are you at? I am from Cyprus. So I'm based in Cyprus right now. I lived in the UK for several years. My work is all online.

Like my publisher is based in the US. All my audience is in the US. So I use the the UK for several years. My work is all online. My publisher is based in the US, all my audience is in the US. So I use the beach vibes of the island, but I work online. Cool. That's amazing. I'll live vicariously through you. I'm only coming to the US for the first time this coming September to teach a course at Omega, Omega Institute in Rhinebeck. So I'm excited to start exploring the US. Oh, congratulations, George. That's amazing. And I was listening to your podcast earlier. You're a great teacher. So I could see how that would really benefit those at Omega. Thank you. I appreciate it. I don't know so much about Greek mythology, but I want to. And I have connected with a bunch of it, but

I am just not learned enough. And I really want to. So you get to teach me and you get to teach all my listeners. My pleasure. Yeah, super excited. So why don't you share, you know, how you fell into your journey? So when it comes to my spiritual path in general, how I came on, like starting exploring my spirituality, growing up, I always felt different from other kids my age. I was a weird one out. I loved spending time by myself, connecting with nature, staring up at the sky and asking life's big questions while everybody else was like out playing and having fun and enjoying their lives. So there was this kid that I was feeling like a no loner, feeling like an outcast. And from a very young age, I felt like I had to change myself

to be accepted, to fit into other people's expectations. Again, growing up in a small island, the island of Cyprus, where everybody's expected to be a certain way, difference is not very much accepted. So from a very young age, I learned to people please. So fast forward to the age of 13 years old, I find out I realized I'm gay in a society where for many years up until I was growing up, homosexuality was illegal. And therefore there was a huge taboo around that. Gay people were considered to be pedophiles and criminals. It wasn't talked about. And I'm like, there's no way I'm going to come out as gay. Like, I'm not going to make it in society. So I'm like, you know what? I've done this since I was a kid. I'm going to change myself from gay to straight one step at a time. And that's when I entered the two most debilitating

years of my life, where for two years, I tried to change what I was born to be. I was trying to monitor the way I walked, the way I talked, the way I communicated. And I ended up like walking in a very robotic way, speaking in a very robotic way. And I became so depressed. I reached such a low psychological level that I couldn't accept who I was. And I'm like, you know what, what is the point of living? And I decided to take my life. And it was in that dark moment that I wrote a letter to my parents.

I was ready to put an end to it that I had this epiphany. And I was like, you know what? Fuck what the church thinks. Fuck what people think. I'm just going to learn to love and accept me exactly as I am. But I don't know how.

And that's when the universe showed up because when you show up for you, the universe shows up for you. And it was presented with the first spiritual modality I ever got into, Feng Shui. And then from then, I started a journey of exploration, studying different religions, different spiritual traditions, being in the New Age community for many years, like my previous books are all essentially New Agey. Until 2017, I found myself, now this is interesting how

the two stories collide here. I found myself in London working a full-time job while also building my spiritual business part-time. So I was working nine to five, coming home, working on my own business, and then going to sleep at midnight and doing the same thing all over again the whole day. And then during the weekends, I also would work on my business. So I had no time to rest, to spend on my love life, my social life, anything. It was just work, work, work, work, work. Until I woke up one morning intending to go to work, but my body just refused to work. And I woke up and I couldn't move. And I'm like, oh my God, something needs to change. I should have said here, oh my goddess, because I needed to connect to the divine feminine. So I headed for the magical town of Glastonbury in the UK. I did a past life regression. And in

the past life regression, I find out that in the past life, I was a prostitute who became pregnant with one of my clients. And when he found out, he stopped me in the womb, killing the baby. In that moment, I made this promise to reject my masculine energy and solely, sorry, to reject my feminine energy and solely depend on my masculine energy and abuse my masculine energy because that's what was done to me. So lifetime after lifetime, I had been repressing my feminine energy and depending on my masculine energy. How did I do so in this lifetime? Trying to take my life because I was gay and embracing my feminine energy. And then I thought I healed that, empowered myself after that, had written

two books, well, a single book about it at the time. And there I was, years later, still suppressing my feminine energy by not giving me time to rest and depending on my masculine energy by burning myself out so i come out of the past life regression i'm like i need to connect with the divine feminine right across the place that i was was the goddess temple of glastonbury i rush in tears running down my cheeks i find the priestess and I'm like, I need to connect with the goddess. So she introduces me to the Celtic goddesses. I'm like, I love them, but I'm not a Celt. I'm Greek.

So I go back to my Airbnb. I search online and I find out that the Greek government had just legalized Hellenic polytheism as an official religion in Greece, as a legal religion in Greece, 2017. So I booked my tickets. I went to Athens, trained as a priest to Hellenic polytheism, and finally connected with a divine feminine goddesses, a Greek goddesses, but also the gods and found balance. And since then, I've been practicing at the modern Temple of Zeus that we have here in Cyprus.

I have been reading. I have been studying, which brings me to my new book, Secrets of Greek Mysticism, all about working and connecting with the Greek gods and goddesses and practicing the ancient religion of my ancestors. What a story, right? No, I freaking love it. It's amazing. And I love how you've just, you just surrendered and letting all of the synchronicity and all of the signs just lead you. And it was like your ancestors were coming

through and leading you as well as, you know, using your past life experiences, very similar to my journey. Love it. And I can't believe you're a priest. Yes, I went to office and I attended the first ever official priesthood training. So I'm the first official priest here in Cyprus where I am and one of the first in general. That is so freaking amazing. Congratulations. I love your journey. And that vulnerability is what humanity has been lacking. And now it's really connecting everyone around the world saying, you know what, I've been there. And, you know, me too. And can I say something?

Because someone right now watching this or listening to this may be going through a hard time. And what I want this person to know is that this experience you're going through right now could be a chapter in your future book, could be a chapter in your success story later on. So take notes. That's what I do now. Whenever I go through a hard time, I'm like, this will be a chapter in a future book. What will the outcome be? And it immediately shifts you from talking about your pain and thinking about your pain to searching for the

solution and seeing, okay, how am I going to resolve this so I can teach about it, so I can write about it, so I can empower other people about it in the future? Absolutely. Hey, you know, in all of my past life regressions, I've really been able to connect it to my journey now as well, where I saw, if I looked at all of my past life regressions altogether that I've had, which includes like QHHT sessions and every one of them, I was a woman suppressed. And I was relying on the men around me to provide or to be the face of my business. I mean, there were many scenarios. I thought I was like healed from this. Yes, because we're so programmed. Patriarchy has been

around for hundreds of thousands of years. So we are programmed to think that way, to prioritize the masculine, to exhaust ourselves, to work, work, work, work, work, and never rest, not realizing that resting is as productive as taking action. So it's going to take some time to reprogram ourselves. And even when we reprogram ourselves, we can never truly be completely into the feminine because we live in a very masculine world. Yeah, it's so true. And, you know, here I grew up Catholic, like I said. So it's our father who art in heaven. There was no goddess in that.

No. So when I started to read the Gn gnostic gospels and started that study years ago i'm like who's sophia wait a minute a goddess and then i'm like father son holy holy shit not holy ghost like how can you create a family without a mother exactly exactly son holy ghost like no that's why in in greek polytheism when we set up our altars we both we have always a masculine and a feminine deity together to celebrate the balance between the two because i went to my priesthood training and i expected a bunch of goddess work and that's not what i got they told me we have to have both because we have to have the the we have to have

the the union the sacred union between the two so in the greek will of the year that we follow around the earth every single month we have a different festival dedicated to a different god and goddess so we have two to balance the two hours so right now while we're recording this in may we're celebrating the thergilia festival in honor of Apollo and Artemis. So we have both two energies together, Apollo bringing the light of source, and Artemis bringing the purity of source, both of which we need to find this balance. Right. And that was another thing I learned in my goddess journey is the archetypes, and we're connecting with many different things. And even looking at many of the goddess energies,

you know, seeing that she wasn't just the mother, you know, or like in the Bible, they were all virgins or prostitutes, but they're also skillful, right? And they're alchemist and the wise one. And, you know, it was very powerful for me to learn about goddess energy. Very. Yes. And what I wanted to make really clear in the book, because we think of the gods and goddesses as energies, as archetypes, are symbols, and they are that as well. But really the way the ancient Greeks perceived them, and most pagan cultures, because they all have their own gods and they're very similar, is that they are universal laws and universal functions so when you think of the law of form that which gives form to things that's aphrodite energy so aphrodite is the energy of the waves crushing on the beach and creating something new it is the

energy of the bees pollinating the flowers it is the energy of the birds going into mating seasons it's the energy of humans having sex it's the energy of volcanoes erupting and creating new earth, that creative energy that is Aphrodite. So when we think about the gods and goddesses, they are universal laws. They don't represent them. They are them. And they also have to abide by them.

So of course they can be archetypes, but there can also be universal laws. So you talked about these different types of like the divine feminine. So I always think of Aphrodite because in the book, I talk about the four Aphrodites because the gods and goddesses,

they have different epithets, which is how all their qualities essentially. So we have Aphrodite Urania, which means celestial Aphrodite, the oneness, the divine love Aphrodite, that aspect of love and who Aphrodite is. And then we have Aphrodite urania, which means celestial Aphrodite, the oneness, the divine love, Aphrodite, that aspect of love and who Aphrodite is. And then we have Aphrodite pandimos, which means belonging to all the people, the sexual

nature of Aphrodite, the mixes, the opposite elements coming together to create something new. We have Aphrodite philomedes, which means smile loving, which is a self-loving kind of Aphrodite. You turn within to love yourself. So when we have these different types of Aphrodites, we come to embrace all types of love, not just the divine love that, let's say, for example, Christianity talks about. It's all about divine love. Connect with the Lord, connect, feel this love. That is, okay, a form of love,

but let's not forget about sex. Let's not forget about self-love. Let's not forget about adorning ourselves and loving ourselves and teasing and sensuality and playing with one another. That's also part of love, equally as important as divine love. Yeah. I actually did not ever even think of a goddess prior to this journey that I was on with Sophia because I was so conditioned. I really only saw a martyr as something to want to be. This is truly how I looked at my life. This is in my DNA, but I wanted that martyr complex to stop with me so that my daughters wouldn't continue that, which I did. And finding that divine feminine energy within me, that was all of the other characteristics of a goddess was how I did that. Because it was with that self-love

for the first time. And it was also learning how to say no, right? Or being defiant and going against these conditions and being put in a box, which oftentimes the goddesses often have a dark side. There's many dark mothers, right? They talk about it as well. And I find that to be very interesting. And I really am defiant against that as well. I feel like that dark part is their strength a lot of times. Yes.

And that's why I'm very passionate about encouraging people to connect with all the gods and goddesses. Because usually when I do podcasts, they ask me, like, who's your favorite god to work with? I haven't even asked you. Yeah, which is fine. Which is fine. I do have like a patron god that I work with. And it's great to have one. We all have one.

And I also hear people saying okay i'm a devotee to like hades or i'm a devotee to aphrodite i'm like great be a devotee but also don't forget all the other gods and goddesses because we need all of their qualities not just one-sided kind of quality that's why in the in the greek tradition we work with all 12 main gods of olympus around the earth because let's not forget that the greek tradition is an earth-based tradition so we follow the changing of the seasons it's all about connecting with the earth and all the festivals and the gods that we celebrate every month they are aligned with what's happening around our nature so right now in may for example we have increased solar light coming in the the

summer solstice essentially so that is apollo's light coming in who represents the spiritual sun so nature is in full bloom so we need apollo's light to come in to awaken that energy within us but also awaken our spiritual energy of moving forward towards our life purpose so do you see what i mean we need to connect with that energy of the earth and we can do so by connecting with the gods. I wanted to ask you, this is one question I've been thinking about all morning. How do you think that Greek mythology has influenced our religions today? A lot. First of all, let's distinguish between Greek mythology and Greek theology. Okay. Because there are two different things. Yes. Again, a point I'm very

passionate about making in the book. Because so we all learn, at least in the Western world, we all learn about Greek myths. And we learn about the gods and goddesses from a mythological standpoint, where we have very human-like gods that fight with one another, that are jealous of one another. We need to remember that mythology and theology are two different things. Mythology draws from theology,

but not the other way around. So the gods we know in mythology, they're not the same gods we know in theology. The myths were created by deeply spiritual people in the mystery schools to store important information about the gods and goddesses. They are meant to be interpreted in a symbolic and allegorical

way and not to be taken at face volume and to be understood superficially. For example, Ares is hailed as a god of war and we see him fighting and all of that. Really, Ares, in today as a god of war and we see him like fighting and all of that really Ares in today's context he is the god of brutal raw force when necessary when all other options have been exhausted because sometimes the most loving thing you can do is fight what happens if you're out in

the street and you get mugged are you to stand there and send them love and light? No. Or if you have to defend someone, what are you going to do? Send them love and light? No, you're going to fight back. You need your ego in that moment. You've exhausted all other options.

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bitch of the gods mythologically like she's just a proud mother who is who considers family to be really important and all the values of family and that's who hera is one of her qualities so when we understand this then we can understand the myths in a different way and also dive deeper into them. Now, to come to your question now, how has Greek religion and Greek mythology influenced our current religion? A lot, because what happened in the earlier Christian years, there was a transitioning period where Christianity was gathering grounds, taking over, and they were trying to replace the religion of the ancients with the Christian religion. So what they did was they took the festivals that the ancient Greeks and Romans practiced, and they replaced them with Christian festivals. For example, for Easter,

here in Cyprus, in the ancient times, they celebrated the death and the rebirth of Adonis. What have the Christians done? We're celebrating the death and the rebirth of Adonis. What have the Christians done? We're celebrating the death and rebirth of Jesus. When we think of the winter solstice, we have the birth of Jesus during Christmas. When we go back to ancient times, we have the birth of the sun because during the winter solstice,

the day and night remains stagnant for three nights and then the day starts growing longer which we have the birth of baby hercules who is a son of god who starts growing yes and what the christians done jesus was born okay because i because I knew Dionysus is also very popular. Yes, so Dionysus is also celebrated during Easter as like the death and the birth of Dionysus. But each city-state in ancient Greece had their own kind of gods and their own kind of calendar that they celebrated different festivals. For example, in mainland Greece, they celebrated Aphrodisia instead of Adonia that we celebrate here in Cyprus. But it's essentially the same kind of symbolism.

Right, exactly. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. And I just recently also learned that, you know, the story of Jesus and the fish and on the water, like even down to the number of fish was the same story of Pythagoras. So I mean, I know a lot of the stories in the Bible was originally allegorical stories as well. From my perspective, that's Christian mythology.

That's something we take for granted in my religion. The Bible is Christian mythology. There are stories meant to be interpreted. They do hold lessons behind them. And by the way, I believe that most religions, the ones based in love, they're all valid maps to knowing source, okay? And to living life.

And it's just a matter of choosing the map that works best for you if christianity is your map that's a valid map if greek polytheism is your map that is your map if hinduism is that that's your if being a muslim islam is your map that's your map the key is don't make your map your religion because that's dogma. There you go. And I love how Thich Nhat Hanh had said, it was like a fruit salad. Why would you only eat from one fruit? So I've really enjoyed studying all of them. Yes. I enjoyed being Christian for as long as I was Christian. I was like, really passionate about it until they rejected my sexuality. And I'm like, you know what, I need to search and find something else. Got me on a journey studying many different religions. And like you, I've reached the same

conclusion that they all teach about the same kind of thing at their very basis. Now, the main difference is between founded religions and natural religions. So Greek polytheism, Greek paganism and all the pagan religions, they are natural religions. Therefore, they arose as a result of the natural evolution of people and their relationship with the earth. Whereas founded religions were founded by a specific person who claimed to either be God or have a way of accessing God and taught dogma. So this is the difference between the Abrahamic religions and earth-based religions. One are founded and the other ones are natural. Yeah. Well, I think they did a pretty

good job from when they started because they pretty much have ruled the world up until it seems recently where people are now awakening, finding this within themselves, which they have been seeking outside. And in the Gnostic Gospels, it's very clear that this is an inside thing. So I can understand why they were buried, hidden, and are considered heresy, which I know in Greek means choice, which bothers me. They took away a choice, a choice for me even to know mythology and Greek mythology. I mean, that's something, you know, you didn't go outside of the box.

I feel like now, especially with technology, we're able to share these stories and get this information out far and wide. And people are hungry for it. And of course, one of the first things they look to is these old you know gods and goddesses that have been told I mean who doesn't know who Zeus is I mean I at least know who Zeus is the old man that sits you know high with a long white beard which yeah for most of my life I had that picture of God yeah and I And I mean, Zeus, let's talk about Zeus and Hera because they are like the king and the queen of like Olympus.

Why? Because they hold the totality of the divine masculine and the totality of the divine feminine. That's why we started with them. That's what that means. They hold all the gods within them and the entire universe within them.

So Zeus is not just the god of the sky. He's also the god that contains all masculine qualities. And Hera is the goddess that contains all feminine qualities. And that's why they are so essential when it comes to ancient Greek mysticism. Didn't know that Hera was his... Consort, wife. His consort.

Okay. But he has many other or he was mythologically this is all mythological okay mythologically he was cheated like the hell out of like his relationship with hera he slept we with with men with with women with mortals with gods and hera was the bitch who was, like catching him like on the act and freaking out and punishing his son Hercules, mythologically. But again, these are all stories holding lessons.

Wow, I love that. So I didn't even understand what an allegorical story is. And that's actually, I'm writing a book and it's much about allegorical stories. Can I give you an example? I think it's going to elucidate what that means. So we have the myth of the Apple of Aries. Okay, so we have this golden apple, and we have the goddesses.

If I remember correctly, it was Hera, it was Aphrodite, and one more goddess that I can't remember right now. Anyway, and they were competing for the golden apple of discord of aries and deuce anointed appointed harrys who was a man to choose in between the goddesses who's gonna get the golden apple so this is like the myth okay and they all presented their sort of gifts and what they represent. And Aphrodite was like beautiful and Hera brought something else and the other goddess brought something else. And Paris chose Aphrodite as the winner of the golden apple because as a human, he saw her beauty and he thought she was more beautiful. Oh, I think they were competing for beauty, actually. And then he chose like Aphrodite as the most beautiful one. I have the story in the book.

I just don't remember the whole details right now. So here we have goddesses that are jealous of one another and they're fighting for a freaking apple. But what does that mean? Right, what is the apple? Yeah, so the apple is golden because it's a symbol of the earth. Okay, so it is the earth.

The goddesses fighting over the apple symbolizes the goddesses bringing gifts to the earth, their qualities, their laws, their functions, okay? Okay. And they're competing because they are giving their qualities. And then Paris, who has to choose like who's the most beautiful one,

chooses Aphrodite because as a human, he can only see the beauty and he cannot see the deeper qualities of the other goddesses. So he's limited by his own humanity and can only see the beauty and he cannot see the deeper qualities of the other goddesses. So he's limited by his own humanity and can only see the beauty and not the deeper qualities. So do you see the depth here? It's completely different from just goddesses fighting. It's goddesses gifting things to the earth.

And by understanding that myth from a deeper spiritual perspective, we get that message that the goddesses have gifts for us, have gifts for the earth, the laws, and we're meant to understand them and go deeper than just the surface level of what's beautiful. Well, you know, it's so interesting. Have you ever done any research or read any of the Mahabharata? I haven't, no. So it's like very old Indian mythology. And very old, I think. And they say there's like this, is it real?

Is it not real? I mean, of course, some of the stories are way exaggerated, so there's no way it could be real. But there's so much lessons in the stories, which, you know, I think that, what do they say? There's always a little truth in every myth. So you wonder, and have you wondered, what do you think? Do you think there once was an actual man, or maybe not a man, maybe even an interdimensional being that was here or visited here that, you know told everyone his name is zeus this is my wife harrah and good question there are a few schools of thoughts around that so let's talk a little bit about philosophy and the difference between philosophy and religion according to the ancient greek paradigm so religion cared about producing good virtues humans from the point of birth until their time of death. Religion was not concerned about what happens before birth or after death. That was the realm of philosophy. And there are different philosophical schools believing in different things about what happens before birth and after death.

For example, the Stoics don't believe in reincarnation. You die, poof, you're gone. Platonic school of thought, for example, they believed in reincarnation. So we have Epicureanism, Orphism, Ithagoreanism, Platonism, like all the different ones, believing in different things. So the Orphic school that the one i follow at least the one that i follow and i practice does believe that our soul goes through a journey of ascension that we start incarnating us the most like the most basic organisms and then we evolve into like plants and then we evolve into being animals and then we evolve into being humans and then we evolve into being heroes and then we evolve into being demons and then we evolve into being minor

gods and then we evolve into the olympian god gods so according to the orphics the greek gods and goddesses used to be humans who evolved and took on loss universal universal laws. So the highest point of ascension is taking over some, not control, but overseeing a law of the universe. Now, if you talk to a Platonist, for example, or an Aristotelian, they will tell you a completely different thing. This is just what I've written in the book

and what I believe as well, because that's what my path, even before getting into the religion, has taught me from past life regression. I saw myself evolving through different souls and growing. And I believed in the Ascended Masters like long ago and soul realms that we all have like different soul realms

that we belong in different groups of souls. So that made sense to me when I read it from like the ancient Orphics. Where do you think that if they were here, I wouldn't think that they would have been human beings? No. So now, again, this is my own theory. Oh, yeah. It's not part of the Greek religion. Yeah. I mean, we're just like, you know, no one knows for sure.

Yes. I believe it's connected to Lemuria and Atlantis. So we have the different versions of the evolution of human consciousness. And we have the Lemurians being the first kind of human experiment. And they weren't very human-like. They were different kind of beings. And eventually they gained some form and they evolved. And then that got destroyed. It got evolved into atlantis

and then atlantis evolved into what we know as the world today so from my perspective i'm thinking the greek gods and goddesses could have been lemurians the first lemurians that eventually evolved into taking this kind of role but who knows why not i mean as deeply rooted as it is it's pretty it has a very strong foundation. You know, I mean, not everything sticks like that. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree. But I mean, like, they're pretty legendary for just being a story that was told.

There's a lot of details, you know, not that I believe all of it. I believe, like you said, most of it might be allegorical story. I mean, like I've had a grandma who had one eye and a great grandma. We'd say, what happened to your eye? She'd say, well, I was running with the stick. Don't run with the stick. But then I ended up finding out, you know, years later after she passed that that's not what happened. But that's what she told us.

So because she was trying to protect us from running with a stick the story was changed for a reason and there was a truth behind it and also we're looking up at the stars in fact they name all of the constellations around because what they saw in their lives and their real lives all the animals that were around them that were sacred to them yes yes i mean all earth-based religions what they did they interpreted what they saw around them in nature that's why they're natural religions they evolved out of the natural relationship that people had with the earth but what happened later on we we lost our connection with the earth because we live in mega cities we we've lost a sense of time because we have artificial lighting so because we've lost that connection it becomes so much more important right now to go back to those earth-based traditions and we don't have to practice them like in detail but just creating a connection

with the changing of the seasons the the lunar cycles the ancient greeks they had lunar months so they followed the new moon and the full moon so again they aligned their lives with the changes of the earth around them i think that is the central message here i know it was so important they did everything around what was going on in the sky i know i i thought about that a lot this year when we had the eclipse. Because I was like, you know, these people must have freaked out when that shit happened.

They must have thought this is the end, or they probably took it as a very, very big sign. Yes, and they interpreted it in their own ways. I'm not sure if we have information about what the eclipse has meant for the ancients. But it definitely meant something because let's say, for example, the new moon and the full moon, information about what the eclipses meant for the ancients but it definitely meant something because let's say for example the new moon and the full moon the new moon was considered to be the holiest

of days and we have plutarch saying that it was the holiest of days where no governmental meetings or anything could take place and people would focus on clearing up their altars resetting them like setting intentions etc and. And then almost every single day of the lunar month was dedicated to a different god or goddess, and they did different kinds of rituals. There were auspicious days, inauspicious days, days you could plant, days you couldn't plant, days you could do certain activities, days you couldn't. Imagine their kind of relationship with the sky to be able to know what's an auspicious day and what's not. Wow, you know what it reminds me of why the vatican probably start having saints how so you know like let's make these these saints right oh to celebrate different days

right and give them this day and you know that kind of tradition of saints and by the way many saints don't exist i was about to say that as part of my book because i was every time i'd come across a saint i was like there's no proof of this person no and i was so shocked that most people don't even know that there are saint sophia cathedrals all over especially on your side of the world yes and i'm like so i always challenge people i'm like who's sofia and the wisdom of god according to the christians the wisdom yes it's a great word sofia means wisdom right and but the thing is is that most catholics have no idea who sofia is because she wasn't a person

and the story is that she had three daughters hope charity and love i mean come on it's an allegorical story yes you know so silly, so silly. But you know, philosophy itself, right? The lover of wisdom, which I'm a lover of Carl Jung, which he talked so much about, you know, connecting the archetypes and using them to learn in our lives. These kind of things can lead you to discovering more about yourself. Yeah mean i got into the greek gods and goddesses aside from the fact that i grew up learning about them because it's my culture i used to watch xena warrior princess oh yeah it was a tv series six seasons based in the u.s tv series filmed in new zealand it was the xena uh the warrior princess and then hercules the

legendary journeys and it was based like in ancient greece and i used to love watching it filmed in New Zealand. It was the Xena, the War of Princes, and then Hercules, the Legendary Journeys. And it was based like in ancient Greece. And I used to love watching it. Obviously, now that I rewatch the episodes, they're so factually wrong. It's ridiculous. Right.

But that's what got me into it. And I think it's nice to have like pop culture references to get people into like spirituality. George, do you feel it in your dna 100 because you know i i studied so many different types of traditions and i felt a connection with them but as soon as i practiced the tradition of my ancestors something else woke up within me because we have energetic cords connecting us to our ancestors and the traditions of our ancestors and even the people

who have multiple genealogies and meaning they they're like me i'm a melting pot of people there you go so that means that you draw from different traditions and you can you can access the energy of all the different traditions i did my dna test and i'm 99 cy Cypriot. So I know like my ancestors were here, like this is where they've been for many thousands of years. I don't know how it works exactly, but many years. So that connection is strong to my land. So when you make that connection, it awakens something so deep within you,

which is why it was so sacred for me. And it was a huge responsibility to write this book. Right. I absolutely agree. I always feel like for myself, tell me if you feel the same. I feel like my ancestors have been waiting for someone who would be open to do this. And they reached through generations to find. I feel the same thing. I feel the same way. Yes. I felt a responsibility to share their stories.

Yeah. That's why it took me seven years of research to write this. Oh, that's so amazing. And your book is beautiful, George. It's so, I love the cover. I love all, I saw all of your books. You have so many. And I just, I think it's beautiful that you're giving voice to your journey and to the things that you learn. Yes.

I love to turn lemons into lemonade. Yeah. That's how I started my book writing journey. And my first book, Be the Guru, was me teaching people the tools that allowed me to stop caring about what people thought about me and learning to become my own spiritual teacher, my own source of love and support and wisdom. And I've been doing that ever since, like going through stuff and then learning and then sharing what I learned. So a few of my books are based on here's a problem and how to resolve it. This isn't the first book that's not really based on a problem. It's based on a desire. My desire is I want to connect more with the earth and the Greek

gods and goddesses. So here's a tool. That's awesome. I love that you connected with your roots. And I think that that made your journey so much more powerful, probably. I agree. Yeah. And your book is based on theology. My book is 100% theological. Okay.

So I refer to myths and I connect them to like a deeper message there. And there's no other book as far as i know out there in english that talks about the greek gods and goddesses from a theological perspective that's why i wanted to write my book even the books that claim to teach about greek spirituality and religion they talk about the myths so that's why i wanted to like focus it on that so i my research was in Greek and I translated things in English. So it's really information that you can find in many places.

I've been really studying like etymology when it comes to words. And I, you know, I always go to the Greek. I quote them all the time because I'm like, yeah, but this word really meant. And so if I ever need any translation, I'm going to hit you up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's so much you can learn from the etymology of words. Tell everybody where they can find you, where they can find your books. To find out my book, Secrets of Greek Mysticism, you can go to greekmysticism.com. And when you go there, when you get the book, you also get a free workshop with me to meet your guardian god

or goddess. And of course, you can find me on Instagram at George Lizos and my website, georgelizos.com. Thanks so much for spending this time with me. Thank you so much, and I appreciate it. That was so great to meet you. In fact, I feel you've given me a lot of energy today. Likewise. I loved our conversation. Thank you.

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