Sense of Soul - Shifting Realities

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

Today we have back with us, Kelle Sparta aka “The Spirit Doctor!” Bringing you no-nonsense wisdom and insight, in our new quarterly Sense of Soul Podcast special episodes called Kickin’ it with ...Kelle. She is a transformational shaman, podcast host of the Spirit Sherpa and an executive coach for spiritually-minded CEOs, Business Owners, Coaches, and Serious Spiritual Seekers. She is a life-long entrepreneur with many different types of businesses under her belt. She is a master manifestor using the Law of Attraction to create her reality, which is currently in Panama where she is living the dream. In today’s episode Kelle shares with us how to successfully exist within this shift that is happening collectively. You can find all of Kelle’s amazing courses, her retreat, her podcast and much more at www.kellesparta.com Watch her show on YouTube  Kelle is one of Sense of Soul affliates in our  Network of Lightworkers Affiliates program! When you work with Kelle you are also helping to support Sense of Soul Podcast! https://www.mysenseofsoul.com/sense-of-soul-affiliates-page Visit Sense of Soul at www.mysenseofsoul.com Do you want Ad Free episodes? Join our Sense of Soul Patreon, our community of seekers and lightworkers. Also recieve 50% off of Shanna’s Soul Immersion experience as a Patreon member, monthly Sacred circles, Shanna mini series, Sense of Soul merch and more. https://www.patreon.com/senseofsoul

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, my soul-seeking friends. It's Shanna. Thank you so much for listening to Sense of Soul podcast. Enlightening conversations with like-minded souls from around the world, sharing their journey of finding their light within, turning pain into purpose, and awakening to their true sense of soul. If you like what you hear, show me some love and rate, like, and subscribe. And consider becoming a Sense of Soul Patreon member, where you will get ad-free episodes, monthly circles, and much more. Now go grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. It's time to awaken. Another blood red sunset and yet another moon facing still another hundred miles to my next resting place. Driving down the road, eyes on the horizon. Within my car, I'm all alone.
Starting point is 00:01:01 But feeling good and feeling strong. Knowing that this path I'm on brings me to myself. I'm driving. Wow, what a beautiful voice. And today on Sense of Soul, I have that beautiful voice with us, Kelly Sparta, aka The Spirit Doctor. Kelly is no stranger to Sense of Soul. You may have heard her on many previous episodes in our quarterly Sense of Soul special episode called Kicking It With Kelly. She's a transformational spiritual teacher, the podcast host of The Spirit Sherpa. She's an executive coach for spiritual-minded CEOs, business owners, coaches, and serious spiritual seekers. Kelly herself is a lifelong entrepreneur, a master of manifestation.
Starting point is 00:01:53 She brings no-nonsense wisdom and insight. And definitely go check out Kelly's website, kellysparter.com, where she offers courses, classes, workshops, free meditations, and also I've heard she's got a retreat coming up soon, so go check it out. Kelly is also an affiliate of Sense of Soul and also part of the Ethereal Network with me, a group of spiritual podcasts who all share the same desire, and that is to raise the consciousness of humanity on the planet. But for now, please welcome my friend, Kelly Sparta. Hello. Hey, lady.
Starting point is 00:02:31 How are you? Good. How's it going? Good. What are you up to? Oh, what am I not up to? I know. You're just like me.
Starting point is 00:02:43 I know, right? My latest thing is that, so I've got two new offerings that are out right now, the spiritual coach certification and where I'm teaching people how to do my, teach my welcome to the woo program, which used to be the inner peace program. And the, I also partnered with them. I do all the backend stuff for them. So I give them all the marketing, do all the things, do all the onboarding, do all the systems, do all the newsletters, do everything. Right. So all they have to do is market, sell and deliver. The, the other thing I'm doing is the ascend elevate program. Okay. I'm doing a once a month program for spiritual
Starting point is 00:03:21 entrepreneurs, people who are doing psychic medium reading, you know, energy healing, all of that teaching, coaching, specifically for those people. And it's once a month, we do a an event, it may be a day and maybe five days and three days, that depends on how much I need to get the topic done. And so I'm doing a year long program of that. We're two months in right now. And so we're going to be rolling out a new one every single month for the next actually 11 months, because I'm using the first one as a, as a trial giveaway for people. Yeah. And so that one's $97 a month or $4.97 for the year. Wow. Right. Wait, but Kelly Sparta, what? That is needed to help people. I needed to do it. You're like we're at desperate times. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I'm just like, I'm so tired of seeing people struggling. Hmm. And you know, it's so tired of seeing people struggling. And you know, it's so ridiculously expensive to do anything else. So yeah. Wow. Okay. I love that. So I was listening to some of your episodes on Spirit Sherpa and I was listening to the remote travel or the remote viewing one.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I thought that was very interesting. I liked how you guys got into it because, you know, sometimes we think that kind of like when someone does like your Akashic records, you think it's like they're an Akashic reader, like only they do it. But like, we're like tapping into our Akashic all the time. All the time. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Everything's out there to be had. I mean, nothing is exclusive to one person or you know, you can't get it or whatever. There are so many layers to the energetic world. Yeah, so many different aspects to it. I just finished recording an episode on ascended masters and master numbers and all that stuff, too. You know, there know, there are different entities and there are different energies
Starting point is 00:05:26 and there are different aspects of the astral that you can tap into and they're infinite, right? I don't know if you listened to the episode on what is reality. No, I didn't get a chance. So I'm getting a lot of feedback on that one. Holy crap. So basically we were talking about the nature of reality
Starting point is 00:05:44 and what reality is. And the holy crap thing that they were talking about the nature of reality and what reality is and the holy crap thing that they were coming back to me about is that in the episode i actually opted out of reality for a moment whoa and i shifted my energy into multi-dimensional space and out of physical reality and so while you can still see me, Jewel, my co-host, was saying, you were like, not, she said you were vibrating when you made the shift. And then you stopped vibrating when you came back. And I was like, well, that's cool. I haven't gone back and looked at the video, so I don't know. But she was looking at me on video going, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And I've had other listeners who were like, I could feel you. And then you weren't there. And then you were back. It was so weird. Where were you going? Were you conscious to it or were you not? Oh yeah. Yeah. No, I did it on purpose because we're talking about what is the nature of reality and, you know, do you have to be here and can you opt out? And, you know, there are ways that you can use opting out of reality as a way to manifest because you can opt out, effect you know that we shift realities pretty regularly around here then you know it doesn't really matter if you shift back into another one that's just slightly better for what you're looking for or significantly better for what you look for but it is not a beginner skill there's a reason i waited five plus years to to talk about it and
Starting point is 00:07:22 it's because it is the it is effectively going across the abyss in the tree of life in kabbalah right so you can either go up the right side or the left side of the tree of life to get to kater at the top um but if you go across the middle it's a shortcut but you go through the abyss you cease to to exist. And then you call yourself back into being. This is why it is not a beginner skill because you have to really know your energetic vibration and be able to call it back into being when you go into the abyss, right? Because you cease to, that's what I did on the podcast is I ceased cease to exist and then i called myself back into the end okay it is not a beginner skill okay wait a second but i mean not a beginner skill but those those of us who have adhd maybe unconsciously have been
Starting point is 00:08:18 doing that for a long time in fact i even said to kensley was it just yesterday she got home from school and she's sitting there like I mean gone and I was like hello what's wrong and she goes I'm spaced out right now and I was like okay we'll come back here I was gonna ask you a question spaced out and ceasing to exist two different things spaced out is i've i've left my body a little bit okay this is i've my energy has ceased to exist on this plane okay intentionally when done control in a controlled way yeah so it it's, it's a different thing. You know, when you space out into multidimensional space, you're becoming multidimensional and therefore ceasing to exist in the duality of our physical reality, right? Then that is an entirely different thing. It's not a head-based thing. It is a energy-based thing.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Well, okay. So I've experienced this with a few of my clients. So specifically, I can remember all of them because it all happened. And actually, you know what? To be honest with you, I think both of them were men. I think it might've happened with a girl too, but it happened with them a few times. And this is how I learned what was going on. I'd be doing Reiki on them and all of a sudden they're not there. Their energy is no longer there. I'm like, where to go? Like, their field of energy is missing. And then towards the end of the session again, and I'm calling them back in, and now they're back. And I always was like, where to go?
Starting point is 00:10:18 Like, they knew it too. And they usually were going off planet, to be very honest with you is what they would describe that's fascinating so yeah i haven't had that experience so i can't speak to but i mean if someone was doing energy work on you and you were doing that i mean would you would they like notice holy shit oh certainly you know what i mean all day long they'd notice yeah there'd be no way not to notice yeah i'm feeling into the off-planet thing it feels related but not exactly the same so it feels like it's a it's almost like a teleporter. So you can shift your energy into another planet to be like specifically someplace else. What I did was to be everywhere else at once and nowhere at the same time.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Oh, geez. What a mindfuck. Okay. It's slightly the same, but slightly different, right? It's, yeah. There's no words for this kind of stuff i do my best in the english language yeah so it's you're literally you're in all space at once and yet you're nowhere in this reality oh you're in the void in the fullness yeah uh sort of
Starting point is 00:11:41 well you're not you're insubstantial everywhere yeah so you know to be in the void and the fullness is to be and in this case you're not being you're not even being okay yeah you're not being you're just wow you really did climb up that tree of life then yeah like one with the cosmos you know the really funny thing but I've never done it before the podcast didn't know how to do it no one told me how I just knew I could I was like oh yeah let me do this right now boom done right oh my gosh are you releasing the video yeah the video on youtube yeah okay because i want to see it but i'm going to attach it to this episode too yeah i had never done it before and it took me a minute to figure out how to bring myself back to i was like wait a minute what were you
Starting point is 00:12:37 doing over there uh no i was just i literally was like maybe 30 seconds to a minute, minute and a half. Time was weird. I bet. Yeah. Oddly, I still had a connection to time. I was still talking. So I was still tethered to this space, but my energy, I don't know. I can't, how do I explain that? I was tethered to the space.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I could track the passage of time. I could talk. I could, you know, I could identify what needed to be done. I still had thought, right? So it was a bilocation. Okay. So this is the best way to say this, right? So in energy work, we talk about bilocation a lot.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And the idea is that you are both doing the thing and watching yourself do the thing. Right. And so the part of me that was talking and tracking time and aware of what I was doing was watching me do the thing. And the doing part of me was in substantial, you know, spread across time and space, you know, the whole thing. I gotcha. Just like when I'm being the facilitator in a, like a session, I'm really trying to be out of that ego mind and stuff. I'm trying to be in the session and being led, but yet I still do have a concept of
Starting point is 00:14:06 time and awareness outside of me as well. It's a weird space. Yeah. You learn to dance it pretty efficiently over time, but yeah. It's like multitasking. Yes, exactly. I've been doing this for 25 years. So at this point, you know, by location is second nature. So, yeah, but going into that space and being a part of one is like that. You're vibrating. Evidently. All right. I can't wait to see the video. This will be great. This is super fun. That's what you said. So I don't know. You know, one time when I had on the her talks, they, at the end of the episode, it actually was pretty amazing, but they led a beautiful like meditation where you went across the world and
Starting point is 00:15:02 there was dove and there was i mean it was just beautiful and then they ended with a chant you know with their chanting um which calls off to the aim sofa at the very end at the top of the the tree yeah and he was trying to bring us i think to that place of oneness because it was as he was describing you know it was, as he was describing, you know, it was the connection to above and below and everything in between. So I want to be clear, that was not where I was. Okay. I was in the void. It was in the nothingness.
Starting point is 00:15:37 In the nothingness, yeah. The oneness is at the top. I was in the space in between, right? Wow. And so I have been in the state of oneness and that is, that's a blissful ecstatic state. Right. This was not that. It was not that. No, no, it was very different. So was it, was it a dark place? I mean, was it, did you feel like you could get lost in that space? Yeah. If I had stayed a lot longer and didn't know how to bring myself back, I could
Starting point is 00:16:06 have disintegrated. Yeah. Well, that's so interesting, Kelly. What about people who have like severe mental illness where they're, you know, maybe they're stuck in that void space? Well, there's a lot of ways that that can happen. I actually worked with a client years ago when I was still back in Boston and her son had been in a coma for four years. He had gone in when he was 13. He was 17 at the time she contacted me and he had been hospitalized in a coma for that whole time and nobody knew why. He just didn't wake up one day. So I went in and talked to his spirit and found that he had been possessed and that the entity had shoved him out of his body and he couldn't get back in.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And so I pulled him back into his body, but it'd been four years since he'd been in his body. So he didn't really know how to operate it anymore. And so I, I reattached him into his body and I told her, I said, look, it's going to take him two or three weeks to really sort of have his spirit integrate back into his body because he's been out for so long. I said, but you know, in two to three weeks, he should wake up. And two, I think it was just over two weeks later he did he woke up yeah it's a miracle so well i mean he was potentially a very powerful shaman and they came and got to him before he could come into his power and so how did he go into the coma on earth like what happened was it
Starting point is 00:17:42 like an accident no somebody possessed him and he just went into a coma a healthy like 13 year old boy if you are possessed and shoved out of your body and locked out of your body you can't get back in and so there's nothing to run your body but your silver cord isn't cut so you're still alive but if you can't get back in right then you're going to be in a coma that's how that works oh my god kelly how is he doing now do you know i don't know yeah it's been years i have no idea i also had another experience of shifting my energy so years ago i did a retreat right we did a three-day retreat friend of mine was thinking about coming. She's multiple personality. And she was like, I'm a big person.
Starting point is 00:18:28 I don't know if you guys can hold me. Okay. And now she and I were on Skype. So I couldn't see myself, right? I could only see her. But the minute she said, I don't think you're big enough to hold me. I went, oh, and I shifted into 18 dimensions at once. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:48 And I looked at her and I was like 18 dimensions at once right and I looked at her I was like big enough and she her eyes went wide as saucers and she's sitting there going oh my god you are physically glowing and I'm like I am I couldn't see it because I couldn't see myself on Skype right because they don't have they didn't have picture in picture back then and I don't know if they do because I couldn't see myself on Skype. Right. Cause they don't have, they didn't have picture in picture back then. And I don't know if they do now. I don't use it anymore, but so she's like, yes, big enough. I trust you can hold me. I'm like, okay. Collapse back down. Yet another thing I did that I didn't know I could do. So that was another fun thing. Kelly, did I ever tell you about how there's been like several experiences I've had over the years podcasting where I saw people's face shift? That happens a lot.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Does it? Actually. Oh, yeah. That's actually there's you can teach people how to do that. It's just a matter of staring at someone and letting your eyes soften and then not holding on to their their structure because what you're seeing when you see their face shift is you're seeing past lives and so they'll the face will shift rather dramatically sometimes yeah i sat here and drew the lady for
Starting point is 00:19:55 the rest of the interview and thank god i had mandy then so she kept going because i was like uh-huh and then what i end up discovering is that I started to pay attention. This is kind of what I do is, you know, experience, pay attention, figure it out. But the next two times it happened, something happened before the interview. Oh, yeah. I got super tired. Like, I was awake like I am right now. Ten minutes before the interview, could not stay, could
Starting point is 00:20:27 not stand, could not stay awake so much that I had to set my alarm for 10 minutes, both times. Yep. And then after the interview, got my energy back, but something was weird. And both times they changed right in front of me. Okay. Well, that may have been possession issues. And they turned into
Starting point is 00:20:48 reptilian looking things. Yeah. You gotta love the aliens. Yeah. Those are aliens. It was weird. And they didn't stay. They would in and out. The last two times it happened, it happened like four or five times, but the last two people I told.
Starting point is 00:21:05 There's more alien influence happening right now. And I'm like, I don't know if I mentioned the Arcturian healing thing that happened when I had a student, Kathy and I had a student that we were working with who decided instead of coming to a retreat that we had for the students that we were working with, which she was supposed to come to, I was like, no, no, no, I have to go to this Arcturian healing thing instead. And we were like, look, we honor your choice to not come to the event, but please don't go to that. Because we both had really bad, like omens about it. We were just like, yeah, it's a bad idea.'t do it right okay of course she
Starting point is 00:21:46 went anyway and so we you know she came back and she had actually had alien implants that ended up in her as a function of the arturian healing work so i don't know if the person running it didn't know because part of the implants were that they didn't know. Right. Or she knew, I don't know, but that was why Kathy and I had bad, such bad experiences. Cause you know, our, our student came back going, uh, I'm having these problems. We're like, Oh, let me take a look. Took me three times to get all of the implants out because they were in multiple dimensions. So, yeah, I mean, I agree with you. I feel like it is weird right now. I don't know if we've shifted realities or something. Something's going on. The last week has been a bear, man. I don't know about you, but everybody
Starting point is 00:22:39 I talk to is freaking exhausted for the whole week. I've been hearing this, but I've had like the best week of my life. Wow. Good for you. What are you doing? Because I need some of that. Everybody else I know is just under it. And we're just, we're just being rolled around like in a tumbler for rocks or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:01 It's just a lot of weird things I can do to get through each day this week. Last week, I had a great week. But this week has been just a bear. I don't know. I mean, honestly, it's been a really weird. It's been really weird. I'm going to take you up to the level of experience and say nothing is good or bad. It just is. It's the old story, right? From Chinese culture. It's the son is plowing a field with their horse and the horse goes lame and the neighbor goes, oh, what terrible luck. And the father says, we'll see. And so the next day, the son is plowing the fields and pulling the yoke himself and he breaks his leg and they're like, oh, what terrible luck. And the father says, we'll see. Next day, the army comes through town, is conscripting all able-bodied men and they don't take the
Starting point is 00:23:45 son because his leg is broken. The neighbor goes, oh, what great luck. And the father goes, we'll see. You know, it's just things aren't good or bad. They just are right. And you can just be with your experience rather than having to figure out if it's good or bad. You know, I did a QHHT session with Jennifer Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And one of the things I discovered in that thing was when I looked down to my feet, I did not have feet. Well, that's a problem. They were webbed. And I had webbed hands. Oh, so you had feet. They were just webbed. They weren't feet feet, but they were webbed feet. Yes.
Starting point is 00:24:24 You said nothing good and nothing bad. Don't judge me. I'm not judging. The thing you have to understand about judgment is judgment is simply resistance. Well, I'm judging myself for sure. When you judge yourself or others, you are engaging in resistance because it is a way to avoid looking at your own stuff. yeah i didn't want to i was like you got to get me out of here quick i do not want to be in this skin it's scaly yeah
Starting point is 00:24:53 i did not i was very uncomfortable in that space and she did because i almost came out of hypnosis completely at that point wow and i was under for a good two hours wow all right then and so i don't know for some reason i just feel like it's all connected and i i don't you know like you were just saying we are multi-dimensional so in all of our past lives and all of our you know probabilities we've been we are still them in our past lives and our future lives because we are all in them right now so we are in the eternal moment of now and we are all everyone so we're all having all of these experiences at the same time i agree right yeah so you know it's more than the human brain can comprehend uh and so you know one of the things that we talk about is this idea that you need to allow yourself to cultivate an ability to be with what is.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Because when you can cultivate the ability to be with what is without having to understand it, that's when you start to get more of the of the the secrets of the universe because once you start to have to understand it your brain kicks in and tries to control the flow of information and it shuts it down to what the brain can process you have to be willing to let go of the understanding and step into the beingness, right? This is why I talk to people about, you know, the heart chakra up is the process of stripping away and stripping away your identity until you become nothing and you become one with everything. And then the heart chakra down is ability to accept and receive and accept and receive everything without judgment, without having to understand it, but to just be with it until you
Starting point is 00:26:45 become everything and become one with everything. Right. And so this is the, most people go the heart chakra up route and most Western traditions and even a lot of the Eastern traditions teach that route, but very few traditions actually teach the heart chakra down. And that's where all the shadow work happens. That's where all of the beingness comes into being and so you know this is it plays into the law of attraction because we attract what we are being what you focus on expands so that's your intention that you put out but you attract what harmonizes with your beingness and so when you can shift your energetic beingness, now you have the ability to attract more clearly what it is that you desire because you can put your energy into vibrational harmony with what you're choosing. That's one of the reasons why they say your income will be the average of the 10 people you spend the most time with.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Because you're energetically in training with them. And therefore your energy will shift and will bring in or let go of income to make yourself even with the people you spend time with. Even though you're saying you don't like chase after the understanding, once you clear and let go, that understanding does come, but it doesn't come from thinking about it and trying to seek it. Correct. Yeah. So, okay. So what you're doing in that space is you are just allowing things to be it's think of it like Kathy uses this this analogy all the time she she says that the way she meditates is that she because she has an active brain is that she thinks of herself as sinking down below the surface of a river and watching the river go by. Right. And that's kind of the way I'm talking about, right? It's you're sitting, you're in the soup of it, right? You're in the water and you're watching things go by and you're not attached to them. You're not judging them. You're just going, Oh, that's cool. Look at that. That's interesting. Yeah. Okay. Oh, something else. There it it goes you know and you're just that's that's the
Starting point is 00:29:06 level of attachment you have to it is oh okay and it's it's like that it works in meditation but it also works in this process as well because what what you're doing is you're allowing yourself to experience things that you maybe don't have words for you don't have an experience of you don't have a concept for the thing that i find most spiritual practitioners in the beginning of their their practice the thing that i find that they they all really get attached to i have to know it i have to understand it i have to you know gro I have to understand it. I have to grok it in fullness. Right. I'm like, I could get it all. You know, I had one woman who insisted that I could not possibly be talking to my spirit guides if I didn't know their name. And I'm like, lady, I have been talking to these same people for my entire freaking life. I know
Starting point is 00:30:00 their energy signature, which is better than their name. Right. I know the lady at the grocery store. I don't know her name, but I see her every day. I interact with her every day. Yeah. They're like, you can't possibly be talking to, and this is what I'm talking about is this ego stuff that gets in the way. Right. Yeah. I was talking about this with the spirit numbers on my podcast and about the master numbers and stuff. I'm like, you know what? The numbers don't matter. The numbers are not relevant. I see all these people going, Oh, this number means this. And that number means like, it doesn't, it doesn't matter. It's just spirit trying to get your attention. You know, stop. You're missing the point of the communication. Communication is not the number. The communication is your guides going, the numbers are the,
Starting point is 00:30:46 they are not the freaking message. Yeah. You know, but that's what happens is that you get, when you're, when you're in the beginning, you're, you don't know you're disoriented. Most of us come into this work through trauma. And it's so surprising too. You know, you're like, so surprising. Yeah. And so we're like, Oh, I have to understand that. I have to know it. I have to, and you know, I mean, I'm not saying don't figure it out, but I, I will say this when I first really started to wake up, which was right around when I was 27, 28. Um, I started to really wake up at that point and I started to get information and I took a moment and I was like oh I'm gonna go look this up and I'm like no I am not gonna go look this up I am going to allow my intuition to tell me what I need to do because if I start to look this up I am gonna micromanage and control freak it into
Starting point is 00:31:38 it's gonna end up being someone else's theories and everything oh my gosh I had to do that throughout my entire Sophia journey people kept saying oh you gotta read this book nope nope nope nope I'm like because I don't want anyone to influence this experience because I gotta see what it is and it's gotta be my truth I don't care how she received it like I literally am going through this and it really was a very inward journey. There was a lot of solitude because I didn't know how to explain it, what I was going through. I didn't know enough to talk about it really. And I didn't want to be influenced. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:19 And that's exactly what I looked at. A roommate at the time who was very much a sage you know he was Mr. research everything know it all sort of thing and so I would say I want to do this and he's like well that's appropriate I'm like why but I'm like I also want to do that he's like oh you know like and I want something else too he's like you want you want this and I'm like I don't know I don't know what that is but I'll we'll go out in the woods and we'll figure it out and I'll tell you what I want. And he'll, and he said, yep, that's what it was. I was like, okay. And I'm like, why? That's beautiful too, because it's like giving you validation, you know, from outside,
Starting point is 00:32:56 but it's still, it's like, oh, well, I mean, if that's what it is, yes, but this is what it is for me. But there was a lot of validation, you know, that came that, that I found was amazing. You know, I'm like, Whoa, that's a thing. You're right. Our brain wants to take over. It wants to make sense out of everything. And it wants to know more and it wants the proof and, and all the things. And I, I really honest to God feel like prior to probably about two years, I used to give credit to all the archangels or spirit guides and all that for like seeing the twos. I used to always give the credit away. And now feeling that in my experience that it was my higher self, actually, that was leading me through at least the last two years, I can say for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Well, it's usually a combination of the two regardless. So it's usually your guides and your higher self. Which is all one anyways. Which is all one anyways, yeah. That's all good. It's such a journey. It's so fun, isn't it i know right i don't know if i've been on here since i moved to panama have i yeah oh yeah okay okay so panama shut down because of
Starting point is 00:34:15 protests yeah like they shut all the major roads down protests across the roads and not allowing traffic to get through rocks across all the roads so we didn't have any gas gasoline in the entire region there was no gasoline to be had but before that we we bought from one of the bootleggers because there were guys who were driving to Costa Rica which is like two and a half hours away and they would fill up in Costa Rica and then drive it back over here and sell us gas for 10 bucks a gallon. So you bootlegged gas? Yeah, we bootlegged gas. So it's so funny though, because people here, the gringos here are like, you know, all the,
Starting point is 00:34:53 all the expats are like flip, they're people who are flipping out and leaving the country because they're like, Oh, I've got my go bag packed and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, you know, I lived in the U S up until last year and I had to leave because I could feel the end of the country coming. And I wanted nothing to do with being there when it happened. I needed to get out of the energy, right? I'm here and the energy, they call the energy. So I'm, I'm on the side of a mountain. i'm on the side of a mountain i'm on the side of a volcano right and they actually have they a name that they call the energy here they call it tranquilo because it's so tranquil right and my tranquilo has not been disrupted by all of this it's an inconvenience it's not a problem right and all these people are going
Starting point is 00:35:43 like oh drama enjoy your drama because that is drama because i do not feel this country falling apart this yeah it feels like i've been there recently this ain't it right yeah yeah it's scary it feels almost like you know when there's a table that's got a really wobbly leg. Yeah. And it's like, if we don't fix it, it might break. You know, I hate to say that I like to just stay in my bubble, in my tranquilo, but this is my health too. If I allow myself to be absorbed with all of the negativity, I really just, I let them win and I become a part of the problem. Correct.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yeah. The best thing that we can do for the country, aside from voting, right, is to opt out of the misery. Yeah. Because what you focus on expands and so if you are in the energy of it especially if you're somebody who's energetically aware and energetically potent then as you focus on the misery as you focus on the upset as you focus on the drama as you focus on the actuality of you know horrible things happening in the world, as you focus on the drama, as you focus on the actuality of, you know, horrible
Starting point is 00:37:05 things happening in the world, it expands. You got to cut that stuff out, right? You just, you can't lower your vibration. Yeah. We can't afford to do it. We have to hold the other side of the coin. We have to hold the positivity. That's part of our purpose of doing that where I was. I just couldn't, I couldn't find my way back to it. Yeah. It's part of our purpose of doing that where I was. I just couldn't, I couldn't find my way back to it. And it's been really interesting because, you know, we were talking that I'd lost, you know, I'd lost 35 pounds since I got here and that I'm just generally happier. People are saying I'm aging backwards. It's like, I was going to say you look really good and you're glowy. Yeah. So that's, that's because I am no longer living in the angst and the upset and i can
Starting point is 00:37:47 you know relax you're free you're like yeah oh my god totally totally better and my body is better and my acid reflux is gone and my that's crazy is not inflamed all the time now part of that's the food that i'm consuming i'm eating a lot more vegetables and fruits here. And, you know, they're, they're higher quality food because I'm getting it fresher and all the things, but I'm also just happier. Are you, are you planning on ever doing retreats there? Oh, I'm absolutely doing retreats. That's just sounds amazing. Maybe I'll try to come because I would love to, you know, be with you and be in your energy
Starting point is 00:38:24 physically and see. Well, and that's really where I'm at my best, right? It's because I can entrain with people and you can, you know, it's that whole, you know, you get things through a download sort of thing, right? Your energetic connection raises the person's vibration because it just does. Right. And so, you know, I've been, I've been wanting to do a retreat here more for people who are further along in their journey. You know, it's not going to work for the beginners. The beginners are probably more likely to do well with the embrace your inner Valkyrie one, because that's a focus and then
Starting point is 00:39:02 intent. And they don't really have enough knowledge to be able to come to something that's more free form and you know i'll have some things set up for that we'll do probably a spiritual canoe where everybody journeys together and then comes back with all of that and then you know they'll be cool stuff right and i'm probably going to teach some sneaky magic or something you know but well you know know, a few years ago when I first had you on, you told me that it was going to happen with Reiki and it sure did. Yep. And that's what I'm saying is that, you know, eventually everything gets constrained. And so it's better to have something that can be an activation point or a, you know, something that brings people together.
Starting point is 00:39:44 And when you put people who are further along in their journey together, they'll activate each other. Just yes. I want that. Right. That's what I'm saying. So that's the piece that I'm thinking about for this one is that I really want to do that. You know, Kathy and I will do the other one too, but I want to do the one that that's for people who, you know, you get to a certain point where you go to beginner events and you bounce off the ceiling if they're any good, or, you know, you just, you're sitting there going, well, I could have taught this and probably taught it better. Or the worst case scenario is that they do something that's energetically unsafe. And now you're jumping in and managing the energy to keep everybody else safe. And you're now no longer
Starting point is 00:40:24 participant. You're now no longer a participant. You're now a facilitator who's on page holding space and pretend. Right. Exactly. I've had that happen so many times. Bringing in your 18 dimensions of Kelly. Just like, really?
Starting point is 00:40:34 Okay. No, your, your retreat is going to be okay. Everyone go around and share your gifts. And Kelly's going to be like sitting up there about five feet high as she, but what's your gift? What's your gift next yeah yeah but i mean everybody's everybody's stuff everybody's learned something different right and you know i i know a lot of stuff but there's people out there who know stuff i don't
Starting point is 00:41:00 know right that that's just the nature of the beast so there's no way everybody can know everything anybody can know everything you know unless we're uh immortal there's no time but you're so right kelly i find that you you probably are too we're always in like in a role you know usually teacher student or sometimes even opposite and very rarely do a bunch of us who are at the same level get together. It sounds like Girl Scouts, Girl Scout, Boy Scouts. Tell everybody where they can find you, Kelly. My website is kellysparta.com. K-E-L-L-E. That's just E, just E. Yeah. Sparta.com. And you can find my podcast at spiritsherpapodcast.comcom sherpa is s-h-e-r-p-a so
Starting point is 00:41:48 or you can find it in spirit sherpa on any podcast player yep it's a good one on the home page of my website there is a boundaries for empaths download that is free if you are an empath you need that please please please download it because it will change your life. But only if you open it and actually do the exercise. Okay. I can't tell you how many people are like, Oh yeah, I downloaded that. I'm like, did you do it? They're like, uh, no. I'm like, if you don't do the exercise, it won't help you. But if you do, it can change your life. So we need that right now yeah absolutely i mean so important right now absolutely so important right now i mean i can't even tell you how
Starting point is 00:42:30 the empaths are really taking it in the chin right now so it's just yeah i mean whether you watch it or not you can feel it yeah oh totally yeah and it, it's all around you too. Right. So it's just, I, I know that in Richmond where I was, it was so prevalent in the, just in the atmosphere that I was, I was retuning my, my wards, my protections on my house to try and get the energy out and not have it like coming through my walls. Right. So I think it depends on where you live if you're more rural you're probably better off but in the cities it can be quite overwhelming well and this next year is going to be a shit show totally come to panama we have cookies no i want to go to that void space we were talking about i might not being there until then.
Starting point is 00:43:26 We'll have gas soon. It'll be fine. Yeah. Well, thanks so much for coming back on. And I appreciate you very much. So much. I love talking to you. You and I have such a great time every time.
Starting point is 00:43:37 So, yeah. All right. Thanks, Kelly Sparta. All right. See you later. Thank you. See you. Thanks for listening to sense of soul podcast and thanks
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