Sense of Soul - Soul, Mind and Body

Episode Date: September 20, 2021

Today we are blessed again with a powerful conversation about the true order of connection; Soul, Mind and Body with the amazing Kiko Ellsworth. He is a Transformational Lifestyle Coach, Kundalini Yoga Teacher and a powerful and wise Speaker, he’s an Emmy Award winner, Voice Over Artist and Actor. In Kiko's acting career he worked with legendary Will Smith in Bad Boys 2 and is best known for his portrayal of Jamal Woods on ABC’s daytime drama, Port Charles and Stan Johnson on General Hospital. Today Kiko coaches both men and woman around the world and advocates for those who have not yet found their voices and is a proud Father. We love Kiko’s wonderful spirit and chill vibe that he radiates and we are so excited to share his amazing energy and wisdom once again in this enlightened conversation. Find out more about Kiko at his website below. https://kikoellsworth.com Follow Kiko’s Journey on IG @kikoellsworth Lots of fun stuff to check out and coming soon on www.mysenseofsoul.com, new merch, coaching programs, readings, classes and more!  Click here to check out our new Sense of Soul Patreon! You can now listen to Shanna’s new mini series episode 1! Please Rate, Review and Subscribe, we appreciate the love and support. Xoxo!

Welcome to the Sense of Soul podcast. We are your hosts, Shanna and Mandy. Grab your coffee, open your mind, heart and soul. It's time to awaken. Today we are blessed again with a past guest who Mandy and I just fell for. And not just because he's absolutely gorgeous, but because this man has a beautiful soul. He went from a lot of daytime drama to being a bad boy, from Emmy award winning to truly life winning as he awakened to his calling to inspire and empower others as a transformational lifestyle coach,

Kundalini yoga teacher, and a powerful and wise speaker. We welcome again, Kiko Ellsworth. Thanks so much for hanging with us today. We're so excited to talk to you. What is good, my sisters? How you doing? I'm great. Hello, beauties. Hi, Mandy. What's going on, lovely? Hi, how are you? Good. You're all jumping around all over the place. I'm actually in California. And so I'm unfortunately in a car. I figured I figured it's all good. We make it happen. Isn't that the beauty? Yes. Okay. So like a month ago, I think I even might've told you on Instagram. Maybe I didn't. I know I hit man yet because I was sitting there watching TV, which I rarely do. And all of a sudden I'm

watching bad boys too. And then I'm like, holy shit. Look at Kiko with them long blonde dress. You got this big gun and you're like jumping from trucks. And I'm like, holy shit. Did you have a stuntman? No, no, that was me. That was all me. I've had stuntmen before, but not, not for that one. No. You mean you were really hanging on to these vehicles while they were going? Oh yeah. That, that was scary as shit. Yeah. But yeah, they had us, they had us strapped in like we are really going to die. Actually, we're going to die filming bad boys, too. I'm going to die. I was worried for you. Yeah.

Yeah, me, too. Totally. That was one of my most fun projects right there. Oh, my God. Will Smith. We're 80s kids. You know, we were born in the late 70s, you know, watching Fresh Prince all of our life. And then Bad Boys and Martin Lawrence is

freaking hilarious I can't even I bet you guys were laughing on set the whole time yeah work with Will a lot more well I guess I was amongst that work with them more I kind of did but I was I hung around Will a lot more but but they both were like I learned so much from them on set between Michael Bay and Will and Martin and just the scene. And, you know, the one, especially the one in the house. Oh, my gosh. I just learned so much from them. You know what I'm saying?

Like just total. It's like it's like total improv, like just making it happen. It was it was sort of like unscripted, but kind of scripted. And so you're like in the moment. So kind of like whatevercripted but kind of scripted and really so you're like in the moment so kind of like whatever would come out kind of passionately oh totally like like one of these one of the scenes martin lawrence improv like a kick and he ended up kicking the bed yeah and i didn't know you i was like i was like oh i think he's about to kick me actually but he ended up kicking the bed so i ended up having to pretend like I took that blow.

But we didn't know that, I didn't know that was going to happen, but in the moment I was like, I better fucking react, react. Who that? Who in my house? I'm the devil, who's asking? The devil is not welcome here. You got to call yourself the devil in his house. Shit.

You in my house? This is all your fault. Yeah, you in my country though. Fuck you, husband. You in my house. Fuck you, husband. Fuck you, husband. Fuck you, husband.

Fuck you, husband. Fuck you, husband. Fuck you, husband. Fuck you, husband. Fuck you, husband. the devil in his house shit you in my house? this is all your fault you in my country though fuck you how's that? I'm gonna kill you man fuck you fuck me? fuck you

Mike you have to be so combative you calling me a bitch? you calling me a bitch? You calling me a bitch? Hey! Yo, see that? Let me see that. Do or die, man. A bullet in the head will really mess up your extensions.

Oh, I love when he's like, Mike Lowry. They're legends, for sure. Love following Will Smith. He seems like a really good, genuine person. Yeah. Is he? From my experience, Yeah. What you see is what you get. You know, I'm sure we all have our stuff and we all have our things, but like he wasn't like a fake dude. You know, it's like what you see is what you get. I really get

that. He really enjoys life. I mean, that's where he and I are like on the same page. Like he really enjoys life and he loves living it and he pushes it you know and he does his thing you know i got to you know connect and talk with him and his dad and stuff like that and he was just that's that's who he is you know what i'm saying like he's that genuine happy soul you know i mean that's that's really from west philadelphia born and raised there you go there you go hey you know what i mean i have a question for you because I was thinking about this. I didn't even ask you this last time you were on a soap opera. How long did you do the soap opera thing?

Jamal Woods. That was the one where I did the longer stint for for like three, three years or so. Something like that. We used to watch Days of Our Lives. I mean, I was so involved in it, Kiko. I mean, like, it was like a life inside of a life that I was concerned about on a fucking daily basis that I wouldn't have to get the soap up or digest. I was crying for these people that I don't know, but I did know them. I knew them.

And then all of a sudden, I'm like, holy shit, they die. And then like a year later, oh my God, they might come back. They might come back. It might be somebody else, but're gonna come back and some of them I grew up with you know my mom watched them and they're old as shit yeah how do they like you know separate their real life from like this like they're doing it every day no I mean how often do you do it it's just well no no yeah I mean you're doing it every day but you got to mean, how often do you do it? It's just, well, no, no, yeah. I mean, you're doing it every day, but you got to remember, you really got to, like, remember that it's just a job. It is.

Like, your on-screen wife, she's your wife every day. Right. But let's look at that. Let's, like, unpack that. So throughout the day, let's say you're at work between 8 and 12 hours of the day right let's say 10 hours so you're at work for 10 hours each day about probably 8 hours I'll say you're you're not in character okay so only like and you got these slivers of these short little scenes these takes where you're actually playing the character. So you're never it's not like a it's not like a play.

Let's say in my whole. Yeah, I'm watching it. And it's a continuity. But we're just it's just snippets of our life. You know what I'm saying? Like most of the time, like we're rehearsing or we're saying, do you have your line? Let me help you. Well, you you know you're doing things like that so we never get like caught up like in the story most of the time a lot of actors don't even never even see it and even watch the show well yeah i mean that's like us like we rarely probably get to you know listen to a whole one of our episodes exactly i got it i got it but it's so funny how some of the people are so old i remember my great grandma was obsessed with as the world turns because she used to listen to it on the radio. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. yelling at the children under the table and we're like yeah but I can see how like you get so

involved my mom's like that with like the housewives she talks about them like they're her best friends I'm like you know you're so involved in their drama yeah yeah it's amazing it's because we don't have our own life well I mean I mean I think that I think that's partly true that can be partly true as well and And media is so powerful. You know, it really engages those emotions and we open ourselves up and we open and messaging and it's if if we're not careful it it can program us in not the best way don't you think that soap operas have really conditioned like the generation before i don't watch so many ways huh you never watch soap operas i really i I'm sure, but all of it does. I mean, if you go to all of it, commercials, they program more than they've done before.

Episodic, you know, soap operas, films, billboards. I look at all that stuff and I literally just see like the matrix. I just see coding. I don't see, I don't see like a woman on the screen. I see the code because I know that she was casted. I know that she got chosen over maybe other races. I know that her partner got chosen together. I know that they, their clothes were chosen because he's wearing a blue and she's wearing a green. And I know that means something as opposed to just rent, you see all that stuff. I know that they're in a back, they have a background like, like this. And instead of it being Brown, they chose to have black with red lines in the back. And that means something. So

like, I'm like looking and breaking it all down. I'm like, okay, I see what the messaging really is saying here. And it's, and it's, and it's designed to make you feel some particular way. That's the subconscious. That's the control. That's what you were talking about. And the words that I'm saying to you, it matters not. It matters not. It's everything that's going on behind me the clothes i'm wearing how i'm who i'm with who's positioned a little bit behind me who's in front you know all this that's that's the conditioning right there that's the power so right and they're using it they use it for political purposes sometimes they use it for the issues of the world they use it for political purposes. Sometimes they use it for the issues of the world. They use it to sell their brands, right? Always. And so, and people don't realize this. So they're

just naively involved, right? And growing up like this. I agree. I tell you, after my dad died, I started to watch This Is Us. I don't know if you've ever watched it. I don't watch a lot of TV, but This Is Us is one that I started to watch painfully because I would cry every single episode. But it was my way to release something that I wasn't able to kind of release when I was keeping it strong, keeping it strong. And so I used that program for that purpose. And of course the dad was dying and oh my God, just right synchronicity with my life. Amazing. I love, I love that's actually part.

One of the reasons when I, when I was doing a lot more acting or that type of acting, I would say that I really love to like emote those emotions, especially those, those deep ones of pain and sorrow. I think I felt that I was always expressing it. A lot of pain that other people didn't necessarily have the capacity or connection to express, but it's there for all of us. You know, it's like that pain is there for all of us. All of us feel that sorrow and need to cry at some particular point in time, but not all of us are connected to it or feel that we can't express it or feel like it may overwhelm us. But I love, I really do.

I love crying. I love experiencing that emotion. But then the strength at the same time. And being able to allow it to, like, move through me. So, yeah. So how do you do that? So do you, when you're, if you're acting and you're crying, do you allow yourself to get into the moment of what you're crying about and like kind of put yourself there? Or are you bringing in a memory?

Like, how does that work? Well, I mean, every actor has different methods. So no actor is going to do it the same. And some actors use one method. I'm the type of actor that does like a combination of things but the one thing that that is there like consistently is that like I know that I am every person and I've experienced everything throughout all of my lifetimes there's nothing that I cannot connect to that's just my truth so when I when I see a situation that may be a character like I know that's me I know that that's

just a place a place in me and I connect with that real place I'm just I just got a flash of like so many roles where I just had people like die and I've just it's just like come through I haven't had a lot of people at all really die in this lifetime but I've had massive amounts of pain in past lives. And it's just like acknowledging that it's there and then allowing it to naturally flow. And then you direct it. It just comes, that's my way. You know what I'm saying? That's, I might be one of, you know, very few that do that. Some people, they think about something in this particular life and I've done that too. I don't like to do that so much. I don't like to think about, sometimes I use that for a while for certain roles, but I don't like to think about like my daughter dying or something like

that, you know, to get me, but sometimes, sometimes you got to do what you got to do, but you, you know, I don't want to do that too much because I just don't want those images in my mind. I don't want to even create those. Right. Yeah. The last time we had you on, we talked about, you know, the masculine and feminine energy. And it seems like a lot of males are attracted to the ayahuasca because it helps them to get a release. It helps them to let that all out. It helps them to be able to cry and to yeah but it's sad that men kind of have to more than women I think find something like that to help them to have that release because they've been conditioned to not to cry like I was sitting with a six-year-old little boy yesterday and his mom said something to him like remember when you were crying the other night when you were watching that Disney Plus movie?

And he said, Mom, I don't cry. Boys don't cry. I don't cry, Mom. And I looked at him and I said, it's OK if you cry. And he goes, no, it's not. And I was like, oh. And that's just how boys think. Well, that's the programming.

And then we think that way after the programming. Look, I've looked, let me, I've done a ton of ayahuasca myself. And, you know, one of the benefits, I, it's just, it's just a tool. We have tools all the time. I got to a tea with the herbs. This is a tool. This is a ceremony right here. This is the same thing, different levels of intensity, but I have my ceremony, you know, every day or every evening, same sort of thing. But, you know, the ayahuasca speaking on that, that's a very powerful tool for men to have like an experience of their heart and the ego goes bye-bye. They have an opportunity for their ego to go bye-bye and to really have an

experience that resides completely in their heart. And the reason why, in my opinion, my experience that so many men like do the ayahuasca now is because like we know deep down that we're these, you know, energy beings that we want to cry, that it's okay to cry. But it's something to get beyond. It's a mind F. We've been F'd right here, right? Is what you're saying. It's sad because it happened so early at a young age. It's like, how did that happen? It was like just the environment did it to him already.

And the ayahuasca, you know, once you connect with yourself in that particular way, and it's very important to do the integration work. Cause a lot of people get caught up in like doing the ayahuasca and the ceremony ceremony is great, but it's all about like the actual life stuff. How are you integrating it? How are you having the conversations with people and truly expressing yourself and the things that you need to say from your heart? We have to be able to integrate those things in our actual life, not just have an experience that's outside of your normal life

in an ayahuasca ceremony. It's about integration that's it if you can't integrate then you're missing the point you're missing the whole point but yeah yeah you know it's so sad that we've actually attached you know there's such negativity with emotion and you know that this has been the long-going program of of something that is natural within us is negative. And so I think that I've seen a huge shift though. I mean, I even hear it in my younger kids, you know, you know, get it out. It's okay to cry. You know, I hear them voicing this and other kids as well, not just my, my kids, but I

feel like the self-love piece as well for men. Okay. Cause like, that's been a big movement for women lately and over the years, like we're starting to own this love within for the first time and women are starting to do what they want to do. But what about men and their self-love? Even before we got to this point, you know, for how many ever thousands of years, two, three thousand years or whatever, the feminine divine has been suppressed. And women have women and your power. Your leading ability, your psychic ability, your creative slash sexual ability and power and expressiveness, all of that has been like, imagine that being suppressed for a couple thousand years collectively because a particular demographic of men haven't evolved enough themselves to be able to access the higher capacities, the higher chakras of themselves, so they can

learn how to healthily express themselves. They were suppressed as well, too. So then they suppressed y'all. But now all that's starting to release, right? Y'all have been doing it and releasing it a little bit before us. And as far as us men, you know, we are starting to like really see through the veil that it's just an illusion, right? We are realizing that we truly would like to express ourselves. There's more of a man that we're missing out on. We've been missing out. It's like, it's like I explained, it's like, it's like a 12 cylinder vehicle, but we realize

that we've been only operating off of six cylinders. And now we as men, we realize that, hey, I got a whole nother six cylinders that I want to actually activate and express. And it's just like that time has come. And the self-love piece, like I'll use myself as an example. If you don't have a model of what self-love piece, like I'll use myself as an example. If you don't have a model of what self-love looks like, particularly someone that looks like something like you. So if you're Asian, Asian, if you're darker, darker, if you're lighter, lighter. So that's the most ideal because you personalize it, right? If you don't have someone that's exemplifying habits of self-love, then you have no point of reference. Case in point, I didn't have any point of reference.

My dad taught me how to survive. He did the best that he could, given what he was given from his dad. But I didn't have any point of reference for what a whole man looked like and what it looked like for a man to truly love himself. I grew up self-destructive. I had to like piece it together with self-love look like. I didn't learn it until well into my forties after decades of trying to piece together this model of what a man is supposed to be. And then realizing that, you know, and then my entire marriage, I couldn't love her. How can I love her? I can't love myself? That's really true. I couldn't love her until after we had our completion ceremony. You know, and men are realizing that it's not some fluffy thing to love yourself. That it's actually like, it's like, what are my needs? You know, it's even like, what's my flow?

How do I want to groove? How do I want to dress? You know, how do I truly want to express myself? Hey, look, you hurt my feelings and I don't appreciate that. Don't do that again. I love you. But like, I can't have that.'t do that again I love you but like I can't have that like that's like it's all self-love it's like who am I and where where am I residing here and we're realizing that it's not what that old like uh old uh uh dinosaur macho man thought what love was, which is something that only girls do,

we're realizing that it's just a part of who you are and also a huge part of what makes us men, whole and complete men. I be letting it flow sometimes. You ask me a good question, she's like, can I host? Host right here, please. Please. What's interesting is that I found, because as I've been more present with my conversations with people, especially, you know, my partner, my children, my mother, you know, these closer relationships within my bubble, I've realized that a lot of times our disagreements or not understanding each other are basically because we don't have self-love for ourselves. So for instance, you want me to do for you. So it makes you feel better because you're not doing for yourself to be able to feel better. So you're looking for me to, and you're mad at me

because I'm not making you feel the way you want to feel. And so I always, it always goes back to self-love for me because I feel like if each of us could understand truly what it is to have that light within and to seek happiness and love within unconditionally for ourselves, then we're not expecting that love conditionally outside of us. Man, that's so on point man that's so on point that's so on point like right now like i'm i'm not in a relation with anybody and you know the short of it is is like i'm i really i think we really need to all learn how to enjoy the time the solitude with self like we talked about will smith earlier, has everything to do with that, like enjoying life, you know, right? Enjoying life, like, well, let's like unpack that. Enjoying

life, what does that mean? It's not just some broad statement. Like enjoying life is the life that is in you. Enjoying life is the life that you are. The life that's coursing, coming to and through your body. You are the life. And so if you're not enjoying life, that means you're not enjoying you. But if you start enjoying you and learning, what does that really mean? Like breaking that down, like getting in there, like then everything that happens outside of you if it's good it's extra it's just icing because you got you got this like you literally have a party going on all right here you got a whole big party that's really what it is yeah you got a party i'll be

dancing sometimes here like i'm like oh shit i got a friday night okay daughter it's like i'm gonna go and i'm gonna house like i'm gonna take off all my clothes you know i'm saying maybe clothes with a little crack over there something like that turn on the music put on my incense put on some and i move and i just kind of like you know i just say like what do i feel right now what do i want to do and i'm like i'm in my most natural state i'm naked you know i'm saying i'm i'm listening to something that enlivens my soul i might be having a little kombucha you know maybe a cookie you know something like that i'm like having a party i'm like i'm having a good time and i'm just like you know doing my thing i might do a little yoga stretch you know i'm saying

it's just like what are you listening to are you listening to like some lino richie or what are you like no no no i'm listening to some soul like what i really enjoy most is like afro latin live music yeah live music something that where they actually have real instruments and people like the band you can tell is playing it all together in the same room like yeah have you ever heard of sean johnson and the lotus band he's like a very yogi kind of you know music and he's got a full band he's from new orleans and i've been like i love his music like to the core of me it's so good it is so good my son who producing his own music here locally he one day comes upstairs and was like mom what are you

listening to like this is good and I'm like I know and he's like what's it saying I'm like I don't fucking know it's a monster or some shit a specific song that gets me every time gets me going. It's called calling the spirits and we're going to have a monsoon. I've been in contact with them from another Yogi had got me in contact with them, but I am with you. I mean, just have a party in life. And you have the life inside of you. We always are thinking that life is outside of us. It is not because when you die, this life is over. It's just in you.

Yeah, it's it's it's it's I get that it's challenging because this world is a huge distraction. You know, I'm saying like it's a huge distraction. And every time we wake up, we can kind of think that it's it's out there. But like getting into like habits, like you talk about like daily habits and starting from within, like starting here. And then you start to build that and you're like, oh, oh, oh, it's here. We got to reprogram it. You know, I love that you brought that up because lately I've really been trying to kind of just let my guard down and find ways to be playful. And, you know, what you said kind of hit home with me. If I'm not enjoying life, I'm not enjoying myself. And that was, you know, reflecting on that. That's very true for me.

So I have found that recently I have been trying to find outlets where I can express myself, whether it's just like you being naked, walking around the house, listening to music. Let it all hang out. Yeah, all of it and embrace it and love it but I will tell you when I got sober I kind of like shut all of that off because I felt I didn't know how to beat you know I drank for so long and that was how I kind of let loose that I didn't know how to do it and it wasn't until recently that I also realized that I kind of connected in my mind that like being kind of freaky or, you know, dancing around naked and

all of that was wrong. Like I've been conditioned to think that those things are not mom, like they're not ladylike, you know, so I had to let go of these conditions lately of what makes me a good person what makes me a bad person and just embrace it be like you know what just be you just enjoy it don't let those things make you think that you can't do that and that you still don't have integrity does that make sense oh totally totally and it's so it's so wild because truths are simple right truths are simple but like lies that especially ones we've been told, all of them are complex. Like if it's if it's confusing or it's like it's like I look at those things, if they're confusing, it's like that's probably a lie because truth is simple. It's really, really simple. It's simple to understand. Like, you know, all we got to do is is one of the things that that works for me is if my intention is of love and I want good intention.

And if I can align with that, with what my actions like, well, I got no bad intentions going on here. And it's not my problem. Someone else views this as bad. That's, you know, them. But like I have a selfcheck-in I know what's going on me I have no bad intentions with what I said I have no bad intentions with what I'm doing if I make a mistake I'll clean it up or I say I'm sorry whatever but like it's like I think for me it's always like always looking for that internal validation always affirming that like where am I at where am I at where's my how am I living how am I living you know am I am I living in, how am I living? How am I living? You know, am I, am I living in, in love? Am I living in, you know, uh, in integrity with myself? Am I saying and being, you know, who I really can connect with as deep as I can. I even told my daughter, I was like, I'm here to guide you. But like, at the same time, don't worry about what I think. Like, I want you to really first

worry about what you think, you know, but I'm here to guide you, but I'm here to, I want you to really first worry about what you think you know but I'm here to guide you but I'm here I want to connect you with what you think all right Mandy sent me this like one of those like a quote that someone sent her it was so good and I and I loved it and I was like well I don't really need like a grave or anything but if I had what you could put this on my, my gravestone. It says the path of inner peace begins with not my fucking problem. But wait, what was so funny is that when I, when I told my partner, he said, well, that's selfish. And I was like, no, it's not selfish. That really depends. Like I only treat you because that's what's going on the side of me. That's how you know what I'm saying? I could see how he sees it as selfish.

Yeah. OK. Yeah. I guess I can. That's his. But that's his. Yeah. That's what that's where he will be coming from. That's how that would be expressed through him but I got what you were saying as well too which is not my not my fucking problem what you think it's like I got I know what's going over here and it's something totally it's it's just separate so yeah no I get that that's good I like the path to inner peace not my fucking problem hey Hey, Kiko, what have you been doing since the last time we had you on? You've always got so much going on. Talk about yourself. Tell us about you. What have you been doing? Man, working with men. That's been like really a huge thing, working with men. And we've been having our men's groups developing and working on projects together, getting us guys together, even on as an event,

like we're about to do a hike next month and get together and do all the hike together. Like a couple of months ago, just us guys connection. We had a beach day and then we actually raced electric go karts on that same day as well, too. So working a lot with my brothers and creating a space, you know, for us where we can finally feel safe to express ourselves with like-minded, you know, men and to nurture, to love each other. Like I tell them, I was like, I love you guys. And we, now all the other guys, yeah, I love you too. And that's becoming normalized for us. So that's like a big thing as well, too.

And working with the school. And then one of the really big things is I've been like into my books. I've been into these right here. This is only three of them right here. And just working on my daily practices and my connection and, you know, certain spiritual principles, anchoring those in a lot of hiking and meditating while I'm hiking and those principles and, you know, refining my diet. So I've just been really fine tuning my living style and really starting to, and I've been disconnecting and letting other things drop away and refining my focus and giving a lot more different projects. But like the bulk of my energy day to day is really working and thinking about my brothers, the school, and really

establishing those. And then also redefining myself, or I should say not redefining, refining my divinity. Spirit is within all of us. Life is within all of us. The source is within all of us. I'm looking at God all right, all right here. So like refining my self image from within and my actions with the word of God or spirit, then it's like the power of spirit and a peace that nothing can challenge will flow through me. One of the best things that I can do is to get myself aligned. So no matter everything that I think and feel and do is in line with spirit. And so that takes work because, you know, sometimes we have other thoughts and sometimes, oh, I said this or I was like, oh, I don't feel like I'm a man of God right now. I feel kind of small. I feel kind of whatever, but like getting that aligned, you know, so I really, that's really

been a lot of my, a lot of my work. And I'm, you know, that's really been a lot of my a lot of my work. And, you know, that's just going to be year to year. If you ask me in six months, I'm going to say the same thing in that area. Twelve months, 12 years until I'm out of here in one hundred and two years. You know, I'm saying like I'm just going to be working on that and bringing through the youthful glow of the eternal soul because the eternal soul has no age. So I'm like, I'm going to get younger gonna get younger so i should look younger next year okay you look younger already from last time you're doing good well i know i'm happier so hey if that's the case you know you said something though kiko oh just a few minutes ago you said it should be a part of her daily you know work you know and I wake up and I do have,

I tried to keep my daily routine of like protecting myself or when I'm showering. I mean, you're in there anyways, just letting the negativity come off, like being more present with focusing on your internal energy that you can't physically see. We're not just a meat suit, but what I've been doing lately, and it kind of aligns with what you just said. I've been, when I, I've been trying to be more of a scheduled person, which is so not Shanna. I mean, I, I mean, I usually just go with the flow, whatever the fuck happens today is going to, how's it, how's it, that's how it's going to go. But I've been trying to say like, okay, so what am I going to put my energy towards today? Like how much of my energy is going to go towards the podcast or towards some of my projects or towards Pensley or towards housecleaning or

whatever it is. And so just shifting that has been huge in my life. Instead of like, what am I going to do today and get done with my schedule and all this stuff? It's just how much of my energy am I going to put towards, you know, certain things? Oh, absolutely. Like that's starting to, you know, I'm, I can really resonate with that because, and I'm also like, for the last three weeks, I'm, I've been like a, also like a schedule I've got, I've gone back and forth. Right. And so like, but right now I'm in a phase of, okay, I'm not having a sort of schedule. I'm more about like, okay, who in a phase of, okay, I'm not having a sort of schedule. I'm more about like, okay, who am I being? You know, I'm really focusing my energy,

not so much on my doing. Cause I love the saying one of the, one of the laws of my laws of God is, is, is, is the law of a head Heru. And it says, it is not what you imagine. It is who is imagining. Are you a human or divine being and then the law right after that the law of sebeck is it is not what you think or what you affirm but who is the thinking and who is affirming are you are you a human or are you a divine being and like i've really been like looking at that in in my being like, who the freak rules are these? These are good. Where'd you get those? They're called, and I can send them to you, but look them up. They're called the 11 laws of Maat or the 11 laws of Maat, M-A-A-T. And, you know, so I've really been

focusing on, you know, like I told you before, like my thinking, have my thinking and my feelings and my actions aligned with, you know, the spirit. And it's like, I really have to pay attention more to that than actually what I'm doing, because I really get that it's more important in who I'm being and who is imagining all of this dream as opposed to what I'm doing in the dream. Because if I use my imagination, but I'm being a human being using my imagination, then now my automatically my imagination is, you know, small. But if I'm anchored in being, who am I being? Okay, first, I'm being a divine being, which means I'm everywhere. I'm all I'm everywhere. I'm everywhere. You know what I'm saying? I'm a

divine being. And then so if I imagine anything I imagine as a divine being is going to be divine, anything, everything, no matter what. That's just the way it is. It's going to be accurate to my soul and what I should be doing. It's going to be bigger than anything I could imagine as a human being. So anyways, I bring, I say all that to say that I've, you know, I go in these ebbs and flows. So I've just pulled back from me right now, cause I'm going to integrate them too. And I'm sure I'm not going to be there for long, but right now I'm really focusing on my being and I'm getting still getting stuff done, but I'm not focusing on like writing it down right now. That's just,

but I was writing it down for a long, long time. You know, year goals, 90 day goals, 30 day goals, weekly goals, daily checking in at night, you know, planning for my next day, writing it out and do that. I was doing that for a while and I'm probably going to get back to it. But I think there's a balance between being and doing and making sure that those are aligned. But the being comes first. The being comes first the being comes first yeah that's kind of like it's like i mean legit that's like checking in with yourself like where is this thought coming from is it coming from my earthly self or is it coming from the divine so it's a great way to make sure your integrity is in check. Like everything that you're perceiving is coming from that divine thought. Yeah. I think when we first get up,

it's like, boom, you know, what am I connecting with? Am I connecting with my phone? Am I connecting with what I got to do or, or, you know, my, my life or like, or my, you know, I really, you know, when I, first thing I wake up, like I'm connecting with that divinity. Like that's where I'm at right now. I'm really training my brain, anchoring my brain to realize the truth, the truth of who I am. Like, so when I wake up, open my eyes, I lay in my bed and make sure I'm having those correct thoughts that I anchor in with my divinity. And from there and then I start, OK, what do I need to do in prioritizing? You know, OK, what's the most important? I make my bed.

I take my herbs. I drink my water, you know, and I stay in touch with myself. We can start off that way. And you always have that as a reference point to go back to. Then as the days go on, go on, go on, then you don't lose yourself as much. You're like, oh, nope, I'm staying right here. I started here. I'll stay here throughout the day.

And I'm in here throughout the day. And then you just become that being throughout your day. You know, you said something earlier about a lot of times we really focus on, you know, the inside and that that's what matters and that the outside doesn't, you know, isn't just the meat suit. But the reality of it is you brought up like how you dress and that's an expression of who you are. So it's okay to want to buy things that make you feel good and put on that awesome mala you got on. And you know, those, yes, it's materialistic things, but it's an expression of who you are. Tell, tell Mandy where you got that mala. mola oh this my daughter made this i know i love that she's talented taking after her own thing but like your sense of soul right what you're talking

about there's disclaimers in that and i'm gonna start with. We're so used to saying body, mind, soul, mind, body, soul, all this, but it's, it's, there's an order to it. Just like what you said, there's an order. It has to be ordered. The first law before spirit, God created anything in the world was the first law that the other laws would have to follow, which will buy by, which is order. They're in order. It always has to be order. And it's soul, mind, body. Now, what you're saying is- Oh my God, duh. Yeah. I'll never say it any other way. Why are we saying it the other way? Because it's, that's a whole nother story. We'll get into that later on. That's a whole nother story. But we live in a confusing world where it's all about chaos. Chaos, order, opposites opposites right when you're done with all the

order and have the experience what do you do you mix it up and you have chaos again but the order is so important right soul mind body so when when we are like what what you were saying mandy expressing yourself and the body's not just a body suit. No, it's not. But there's an order. We have to actually give attention to the soul first. Because usually we'll jump to the, well, I just want to feel good about myself. I can buy myself something I can feel. But like that person that's doing that is out of order with themselves. They haven't done the work to do the soul work first and make sure that they're feeling good with themselves first right yeah and that they're having right thoughts and then when that starts happening here i'm like okay i'm feeling good you know and then i'm

actually i've i've arranged and aligned this stuff with with what right for me. And I'm able to be with myself and be happy. That's where it starts, I'll just say. I'm able to be with myself and be happy. That's the soul. And then it's like, okay, I'm not having negative self-talk. Let's just say that's the mind. And then once you get those aligned, boom, one, two, then it's like, okay, now I can actually start to,

now I'm aligned. And then you don't need to go buy a purse to make the oxytocin start working in your body to make your mind right. You can actually just connect with your soul to do that. But I tell you, a purse still makes me feel good. Keep going. No, no, no. Here's the thing. Look, look, look, you don't think I like my little buttons right here and all my stuff right here. I love this. But when you do it, look, when you do soul, a vessel of, you know, God on Earth and stuff. You know what I'm saying? It's like that's that's I'm here to devote my my my life to spirit and like uplifting this planet. Right. This stuff, take it all away. But I got me. I got me. Right.

None of it matters. But we are here in a material world you know spirit wants to express itself through you me everything right to the fullest expression and it's like it's okay to express that to have the nice clothes and nice things but there has to be an order you know it has to be in proper order for it to be truly experienced. Because it doesn't really, even you can look as good as you want on the outside, but if you have absolutely zero self-love inside of yourself, then all that shit on the outside is just,

it's just fake. And when I look at a woman, like I can see that. I can see, literally, I can see it. I can see through all the stuff of like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not real. Like I can see if it's real or not. I can see not real. It's like, okay, she can see it. I can see through all the stuff. I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not real. I can see if it's real or not.

I can see it's not real. It's like, okay, she's not happy. That's the first thing I was like, well, she's not happy. You're like, she has fake hair, so she's not happy? No, no, no, no, no. I'm saying I can see through all of that

to see if she's even happy. Well, I was thinking about... But there's something, there's a little something to that though as well if we have to dress with a lot of fake this and fake this and fake this that means that like we're not accepting what is yeah yeah you know and i'm not saying this stuff and stuff is not okay i'm it's cool if that person can accept what is first and then put that stuff on that person is going to

resonate completely different. They're going to be attractive even if they got on the hair and makeup and stuff. They're going to still be attractive. It's interesting because I was like reflecting back to a time in my life where I was looking for a lot of validation outside of me. And so I dressed very, let's just say provocative. There you go. I wasn't in touch with my soul and I was representing and I was expressing myself completely out of order and not in line because I didn't know who I was. Yeah. Yeah. You know what makes me think of Scarlett?

Scarlett. Who absolutely is fucking gorgeous. This girl, Scarlett Raven. And she really expresses herself in her body like on the front of her book and on her but it's not in a provocative way it's really like this is my body people this is my temple my soul is is this is i don't need any any clothes even it's not it doesn't come off slutty whatsoever it is sexy to me in a more divine way yeah yeah we can be sexy and divine right i think that's the way it is i think sexy is divine i

think that's the ultimate sexy like when we talk about like we were talking about like relations with somebody if we're having a relation which we all are but two people having an intimate relationship with one another. If I can see your divinity first, if I can appreciate your soul, if I can see your soul, if I can acknowledge your soul, if I can praise your soul and who you are and bless and kiss your feet and really do that in honor and lift you up as a soulful being. Don't you think the sex is going to be good, too? I mean, shit. Come on. A whole nother level. A whole nother level.

A whole nother level. Because you're going to feel like, yo. Dude, you just like created a shirt that would sell like crazy. Sexy is divine. There you go. There you go. We bring it back. The real sexy, divine sexy, yeah.

There you go. God, I could just put you in my pocket i'm in your pocket i'm right here i'm in your pocket baby girl both of y'all you know y'all my sisters man you share with us your theory on the cookies and now it's time for break that shit down you break that shit down. The cookies. What you want to know about the cookies?

I mean, like, look, I come here to be a human, a divine being in a human's body. And the cookie is just one of those things where it's like, it's my way of having fun. You know, most of the day I'm eating so healthy, but my cookies where I'm like, OK, you know, I'm saying I'm going to have my cookies. I'm going to have that little boy is going to have what he wants, but I keep it in balance. You know, I think that we got to keep things like that in balance as these divine adult beings. But having that vulnerability as the child that still knows its boundaries that can express and now protect itself if it needs to but still open and available to like let the love come through and flow through and love each other it's all about balance is what you're saying

yin and yang can't have too much or be too little yep yeah i y'all. I'm so glad to see y'all again. You know what, Kiko? Something feels different about you this time. You just seem balanced. You seem like you're just focused, man. You can feel it, but in a very peaceful way.

Yeah. That brings tears to my eyes. You don't even know. I just adore you. I adore you. I also adore your love that like comes out of you when you talk about your daughter, even your ex-wife. And just when you call us sisters, you know, your sisters, it's not just like some empty word. Like you can feel your words. Yeah. You should come out to Colorado and we'll take you to dinner. I got friends out there too. And I've gone there too I was out there a couple years ago actually it's done

next time look when I'm out there that's a done deal I'm telling you I'm not just saying that because we're like that's a done deal we're going to party we're going to have a good time and I'm going to send you some Sean Johnson.

I think you'll really appreciate him. I love him. He's real music. He's not just fake music on a computer. He's the real band. The real deal. Yeah, that's what I like. And Kiko, real fast, if there's some men that want to, you know, or women that want to reach out to you, maybe looking for one of these likes or you know just want to get in touch

and pick your brain and learn more about you where can they find you uh ig kiko ellsworth kiko with ellsworth with two l's yeah and i i'm not on there a lot but like that's the best place you can reach me though where you can like look at everything get everything else you need um i'm a really horrible rapper okay but i have this like rhyme in my head right now that kiko is so sleeko with a little bit of freako i like it let's do some now let's do some sufi grinds and bring that down to the person's second chakra baby love it thanks you guys so awesome i love you love y'all hope to talk to y'all soon hey did you know that sense of soul now has a patreon where you can get exclusive episodes mini series that mandy and i have been working on for a long time that we can't wait to share with you. Monthly readings,

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