Sense of Soul - Stay True to Your Journey

Episode Date: September 7, 2024

Today on Sense of Soul for her third appearance, Author and Medium, Carole J. Obley. She has been the bridge between heaven and earth in over 15,000 group and individual readings with startling clarity, specificity and accuracy about people’s loved ones in spirit. Names, descriptions of loved ones’ personalities and uncanny, validating details about their lives as well as grief support and teachings about the afterlife are typically delivered in her readings. She has been trained and tested by Delphi University where she holds a certificate in mediumship and has also trained with some of the top evidential mediums today. Carole is also well known for her practical, down-to -earth guidance and insight into life issues, such as relationships, career and finance. In addition, she has many years of study in astrology- its metaphysical meaning, its application to the soul's evolution and its role in reflecting probable timing of events in life.  Through her inspiring books, CD’s, media work, seminars and workshops, Carole has touched thousands, helping them to move through the grieving process more easily and importantly, to open their hearts and minds to the Divine within.  Carole’s passionate intent is to use her talents to mirror the divine essence of others, thereby empowering them to reach for the stars in all avenues of their lives. Because she ardently believes that each person has the ability to connect with the voice of God within by accessing intuition, Carole has created three levels of intuition development, which she teaches in fun-filled, affordable weekend intensives. She loves to teach webinars and share many of the easy- to- apply techniques she personally utilized to develop her own abilities as a medium.​​ ​Please follow Carole's page on Facebook by clicking on this link: http://www.facebook.com/soulmedium http://soulvisions.net/ http://www.senseofsoulpodcast.com

Hello, my soul-seeking friends. It's Shanna. Thank you so much for listening to Sense of Soul podcast. Enlightening conversations with like-minded souls from around the world, sharing their journey of finding their light within, turning pain into purpose, and awakening to their true sense of soul. If you like what you hear, show me some love and rate, like, and subscribe. And consider becoming a Sense of Soul Patreon member, where you will get ad-free episodes, monthly circles, and much more. Now go grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. It's time to awaken. Today on Sense of Soul, I have a sweet three-peat guest, Carol J. Obley. Carol is a renowned medium, a teacher, an author, and the founder of Soul Visions.

She has been the bridge between heaven and earth in thousands of group and individual readings. Her sincere intent is to service spirit and deliver the absolute best communication to each client. Through her inspiring books, Carol has touched so many, helping them to move through the grieving process more easily and importantly to open their hearts and minds to the divine within. Carol's joining us today because she has wrote another amazing book, The Art of Sensing, a guide for staying true to your soul's journey through challenging times, which I must say, it is definitely a time of challenge. But no fear, today on Sons of Soul,

we have Carol J. Obley with us. How are you? Hey, Shanna. Good. How are you? I am so good. So glad to see you. You're very pretty. Oh, so are you.

Thank you, honey. How have you been? Okay, busy. Been doing a ton of podcasts. And thank you so much for having me back on. Because your people, your followers, I think they're very open and interested in spirituality and what I do too. So yeah, you are one of Sense of Soul's favorite episodes. You know, we've had you on twice. And we did a book club, right, on your book years ago. That was super fun.

And some of my best memories when I think back along this Sense of Soul journey, we had you on, and I can't remember if it was the first or second time, but you connected with someone on the other side for me. And it just happened to be, and I don't know if I ever got a chance to even tell you, but you brought up the word or the name Rose. And I had just learned that one of my first cousins had just lost a baby with the name Rose. She named her Rose. Yeah. Wow. And at the time, did you not know that? Well, you know, I knew that she lost the baby baby but i didn't know she had named her and she had named her rose wow well thank you for that validation i appreciate it yeah that's that i always tell people you know even if it doesn't make sense to you right now when i'm doing readings just write it down because it will chances chances are, you know, 95%, it will make sense. So I appreciate that validation.

I feel that way with dreams, with sometimes symbols that you find, you know, that maybe they don't make sense. Like you said, write these things down because one day they might. Exactly. Or maybe even that we're so busy that we can't really put it together at the moment. I almost feel like sometimes we're so busy, like you and I right now, I'm busy as well. And in those moments of stillness, we may see something or receive something. And it's just very very quick but we don't put it together yet because we go back into that busyness very true I've had readings myself and I mean this was

many years ago and I don't get too many readings at all anymore but somebody said a name and I'm like I don't know anybody with that name to And then during the reading, it hits me. Oh, that's so-and-so. So it's just kind of being in that moment of excitement, you know, in the reading. And that's happened a lot in my career. So I just say, even if it doesn't make sense to you right now, just write it down. Usually will. Yeah.

You're such a great teacher. That's one of the things that when I think of you, it's the first thing that comes to mind is experience and teaching. And you've been doing this for a long time. Just to the listeners who maybe have not listened to your past episodes with Sense of Soul, because it's been a while. Can you just update everybody, tell everybody who you are and how you fell into this journey? Well, I am a medium as well as a teacher, a spiritual teacher, taught a lot of workshops at Lily Dale, a spiritualist community, and my own workshops, you know, through Zoom. And that really came about

during the pandemic, you know, everything was closed in. So I've been working now as a professional medium about 30 years. I kind of lost count, but I think on my website, which I probably at this point need to update, well over 14,000 readings. I've connected with people from all walks of life, all professions, different cultures. I actually read internationally at this point. I've been very blessed by spirit to be doing the work and you know the people who need to find me will find me most of my clients are referenced I've written books and the latest is a new book coming out at the end of this year

it is called the art of sensing and it's about intuition uh using your intuition to navigate through difficult times the last book that i wrote published in 2020 wisdom from the spirit world and it's a compilation of lessons that I've experienced over and over, themes that have come through in countless readings. And I categorize those into about eight different lessons. And what does the spirit world, with their different perspective, what do they want us to know? What is more what I consider like universal type of wisdom

that in reading some readings, not all, but in some readings, the spirit world has come through and communicated these lessons that I wrote about or teachings in wisdom from the spirit world. So in a nutshell, this is my life's pathway. I am exceedingly grateful and blessed to be on the pathway that I'm on. My intent is always to serve the spirit world and at the same time, hopefully serving the client, the recipient of the reading. So over these 30 years, when you look back,

I mean, because even just in the little over a decade I've been along this journey, to see what's gone on, right? Since the age of Aquarius started to inch towards us with technology. And like you said, we're able to have this conversation and share with thousands, maybe millions of people, you know, is pretty fantastic. And I think is probably responsible for this great awakening. Do you feel like there has been a major shift recently in the past decade? Oh, yes. I mean, I think unless somebody's living under a rock somewhere, you know, up in the mountains, isolated, our individual experience of the shift in consciousness yes by the way is um currently intensified because of pluto the planet pluto shift on the sign of capricorn

into the sign of aquarius there's a world of difference between those two energies, Capricorn being more about the establishment, or I hate to use that word because I don't mean that in the political sense, but structure that have existed in for a long, long time. Capricorn is about building structure. It's about the earth. it's about societal organizations uh the government and a couple of months ago pluto shifted into the sign of aquarius and on top of that the united states is having its pluto return what that means, I think it's 248 years or so for Pluto to go around the circle of the zodiac. So it's returned now, it's past the point of return of where it was when this country was founded. So what does Pluto really represent? It's all about consciousness of the masses.

And with Aquarius, there's much more of this energy of future, of technology. You mentioned technology, Shanna. That's, you know, thank goodness for technology. It has its downside, too. And I'm a little bit more than a little bit concerned about AI because I'm an author. And, you know, I've been reading about certain things being pilfered or whatever, copied. You know, I spent many, many hours writing. So there is always positive negative uh Aquarius is very much about the betterment of humanity you know I would say that's what defines the sign of Aquarius also the unique individual yeah you know each of us is a unique personality, but we're also part of the greater consciousness of humanity.

So during the time and Pluto takes anywhere from 15, sometimes 18, 20 years going through one sign, it's very slow moving. It spends half the year retrograding going backwards um so that's so long yeah i've also studied astrology many many years and i do karmic astrology readings for people i started studying astrology because I wanted to understand myself better and also to apply it to help clients. That kind of seems to be like the catalyst for most journeys is where one has to, whether it's through astrology or therapy or healing, however that looks, you know, usually it starts with you and, you know, you want to have this deeper knowing of thyself, which is, I think in my lifetime, a new concept that I have had to adapt to because it was always everything seeking outside of me, right?

We're going to seek forgiveness outside of me. I'm going to seek healing outside of me. I'm going to seek wisdom outside of me when all along, you know, it's been right there within me. That is truth. truth and until we take as the individual the spiritual journey of really knowing spirit within and i'm not in any way knocking traditional religion i believe it has its function the salvation of self and the enlightenment of self always has to take place in order for, in my opinion, my humble opinion, for a real shift in one's consciousness, getting away more so from

established dogma. Although there's value in religious dogma i mean with the teachings and so forth there definitely is value in that everything has value even the great divide that we're seeing right now this great polarity and division within consciousness with people. It has value. And actually, it's a natural law. There's a natural law, universal laws that are eternal, the law of polarity. And so it means that if there's an up, there's got to be a down. Older has to be a hot, there's day and there's night. So the key really to working with that is to modulate those, bring them to the center. Instead of the pendulum being clear over here or over here, blending, bringing those to the center. You know, Carol, a few years ago,

I think it was my older kids were in school. They'd come home. Did you know that Pluto's not a planet? And I said, what? You mean they tried to kick out Pluto? You know, do you find that? I find that to be interesting. You know, being you find that to be, I find that to be interesting, you know, being, being so important to this time.

It's just, you wonder if it was intentional and for some reason, I just, I don't know. I don't understand. Well, I don't pay a whole lot of attention to that. I'm more interested in what's the symbolic meaning of Pluto because that isn't, that hasn't changed right actually i started studying and i now do some readings that are uh it's called evolutionary astrology it was yes i've heard this worth by uh jeffrey wolf green and you can find some of his videos and so forth on YouTube. And I read his book called Evolutionary Astrology.

And it actually focuses on the placement of Pluto in a person's birth chart. And what that shows is where we left off prior lifetimes with our personal evolution. And then also importantly, how we can integrate that and move forward, continuing with evolution in the current lifetime. It's fascinating. Yeah, it's truly something. I mean, I consider Jeffrey Wolf, I mean, he's a genius, just absolute genius. He's not, my theory theory on him he's not even

from this planet uh right uh i think about that sometimes maybe even with you yeah well you know there's some of us who have spent a lot of time off planet i'm talking about in between lifetimes edgar casey uh the american psychic who did his readings in the 20s and 30s, mentioned that. And he said souls might spend time on Venus. They need that particular energy of Venus. Or, you know, maybe on Pluto. Nikola Tesla thought that he was from Venus. Well, there you go. Makes a lot of sense. Geniuses like that. I mean, yeah, I really believe they're very Uranian, the planet Uranus,

and this knowledge, their consciousness to improve humanity as a whole. I think we're going to see a lot more of that, Chan. I really did. I got on Daryl Anka. He channels this entity Bashar. He's very, very popular right now. At first I was like, who the heck is this dude? What is this?

This is really far out there. But then I started to listen to him and I was like, holy moly, he's bringing wisdom that only a few like yourself is bringing forth and he's doing it so without thought. It's just coming forward. And yeah, I had him on and I was, I was sold. I was, I was sold, you know, and I think he believes it's, or how he explains it, it is a version of himself from a different time and space, but it doesn't exist. So it is now, you know, and that's the way I've been kind of feeling myself. So, you know, usually in the past, there was lots of spirits and guides that I felt. And I called on Archangel Michael for protection.

And for the past two years, I feel like I've been relying more on my own higher consciousness. I don't know if it's a past version of me, a future version of me, but it is a version of me that has been leading me to a lot of the wisdom I've received yeah personally I have noticed and maybe you have noticed this also I which is an artificial construct you know it doesn't exist in the in the spirit world that's why during readings I tell people they'll say well that's my aunt you know jenny and she died 50 years ago why would she be coming through because aunt jenny's not in a place where there's time okay this is the only time but i've noticed that particularly during the last six months or so that time seems very sped up.

You know, I'll look at the clock and go, oh my gosh, it's this time already, you know, or the days just seem to accelerate or fly by. And so this is consciousness, I believe, really being sped up. You know, everything has consciousness. Every blade of grass, every tree. It's the same energy that runs through you and me and all the animals of the earth, too.

Everything has consciousness and everything, importantly, is interconnected. Well, saying no man is an island well it's true every single thing or even you know you can get down to the thought level that's put out into our individual thoughts put out into collective consciousness has some effect you know this is why it's so good to watch our thoughts. I fall into the trap every day of getting angry and seeing this division and what's going on. I think so many of us do. You have to pull back the observer, not to become, you know, a do nothing to do nothing, but to not fall into that trap and observe it. I'm so glad that you said that because that's what I've been going through over the past week. Very specifically, I have said to myself, if I can't do it myself, I need to speak to someone

who can help me see it from a different perspective because sometimes when you're in this place it's hard to pull back and see it yes I feel like there's chaos all around me I even explained this to someone the other day that I felt like I was in the middle like the eye of the hurricane in some way and sometimes being pulled in it the battle of trying to stay is is also exhausting yeah yeah yeah I mean I think that a lot of people right now are exhausted from just living just living and you know we have the economy not good I mean a lot of that really deeply affects a lot of people especially families so there's so much going on what can people do as the individual well you have as much power as the collective because guess what you're a part of that. Nothing you do is separate from that collective whole. You know, so whatever you inject into that with your thoughts, your actions, you know,

your compassion, your ability to try to understand or teach or whatever it might be that matters that truly truly matters and the individual if everybody just goes well i'm only one person you know what can i do if everyone does that nothing is made better so we do have to contribute not there isn't one um occupation or person or skill that's more important in the mind of spirit than another so true i've really realized that recently that we all are like parts of like i remember one time, well, Neil Donald Walsh says it all the time, you know, we're like fingers on the hand of God, you know, each having a very specific purpose, you know, but when you become conscious, and it's so funny, maybe you've heard this before too. I've had a few times people call me and say, okay, now that I'm present and I'm aware,

like, is there any way to shut this down? Because this world sucks. I'm glad you brought that up because I always say the spiritual path is not a bed of roses. Just get rid of that thought that it's going to be like sunshine and lollipops and you know no because once you know and i mean i'm putting no in quotes not an intellectual knowing but once that part of the individual that is the divine or spirit is activated it becomes very vibrant and enlivened you can't go back you really can't go back to not knowing and it's like that that flame within you has been ignited i often say you're probably going to laugh at this now i'm from'm from Pittsburgh, right? So we got the Pittsburgh Steelers. That's our football team here.

So I always say, yeah, wouldn't it be lovely? Go to a football game, raise your beer in the air, and go Steelers, you know, like into oblivion. And I don't think I ever did that. I've never been a big sports fan but I mean with anything because I've always wanted to know what's underneath the surface of that I write about my books all of my books I always during the time I was a little girl I was I drove my parents crazy why why why I want to I want to know what's underneath that rock i want to know what's

underneath that blade of grass or whatever why does the grass grow or you know right why is the sky blue i mean i did it too what happens when we die that was my big one yes girl walked through a happened to be a catholic uh cemetery and in this particular cemetery they put photographs on the grave and they're covered with glass so that they're personal and some of these were quite old and i was a little girl like maybe seven or eight years old walked through the cemetery with my grandma and i let go of her hand and i went over to the tombstones, and I looked at those photos, and some children, and I said, I thought in my head, why would God take a child, and where is that child now? Do they know that I'm standing here on their grave looking at their

photo? You know, and I was always always asking from the time I was very young, I was always asking these types of questions. I was very precocious, you know, wanted to know everything. Even I read paranormal books when I was little UFOs, the Bermuda triangle, ghosts, right. All of that kind of stuff. wanted to know you know what was going on and that that persists today me too I feel like I'm an investigator I call myself a spiritual sleuth that I've called myself that. Have you? Yes. An investigative spiritual journalist. Yeah. It feels like that sometimes.

And a lot of the things I think do start with just asking those questions. But when you do become present, it's there where the answers are. So how did you get from being very curious, which a lot of people go through that very strong seeking phase that sometimes just is a distraction too. So you have to come to a place of presence and stillness to be able to receive the answers to these questions? Well, what happened to me personally, my journey in my twenties, I was dying from alcohol and drugs. That was a huge wake up call. And about the age of 25 so many years ago but going into the 12-step program by spirituality and so i began to really really get into you know the 12-step program say god as you understand him or her as you understand him it her, as you understand him.

It can be a chair, but as long as it's a higher power outside of your own mind, because that's where addiction and so forth comes from, that sort of behavior, you know, as long as you know, it's not within you, the ability to stay sober, stay clean. So that kind of jumpstarted me me in those days and this was during the early 80s so I really got in also to reading about women's studies I read a lot of the feminist books a lot of spiritual books I worked the 12 steps which even to this day, I mean, that program saved my life. It saved my life. I mean, I've been in Al-Anon, you know, for, I don't know, over a decade now, you know, and I, I agree with you, you know, and I wish they'd just have it be a book for all because it, I think is one of the most brilliant, you know, things ever created. You're referring to the big book

of a yeah I mean that book is just I believe it was channeled oh yeah and and it's funny you know Carl Jung had a hand in that book as well oh I worked with Bill and Bob yeah I never knew that but I just got my big book out I don't know last year and i you know it's been many many years uh and i haven't drank alcohol in 41 years so yeah but it's still a good book yeah oh and i started you know in the back of that book and i have one of the old versions there are the individual stories and there are some women in there in the in those days in the old days when a started i mean was very frowned upon women you know the only women that went into bars or floozies and a lot of women drank at home they were housewives they hid the bottle in the laundry whatever. So throughout about 15 years, I went to meetings on a regular basis. I went to women's

discussion meetings. I went to lead meetings. I led or spoke many, many times, told my personal story. And it's in my third book, Soul to Soul Connections. I actually was inspired to adapt some of the the 12 steps to spirituality you know the very first step we admitted we were powerless over alcohol our lives had become unmanageable so i i kind of switched that adapted it to we admitted we were powerless over our own thinking, you know, our mind. Our lives have become unmanageable because of our dysfunctional thinking. So I broke down, I don't know, several steps in soul to soul connections. And I think it's a very useful philosophy for anybody to use. Me too. And one day at a time, another slogan from 12 step yes so very

practical useful philosophy for one to use because as you know i'm sure uh anxiety and depression are epidemic now, especially among young people. Also, you know, Al-Anon, the principles and like, you know, you didn't cause it, you can't change it, you know, you can't cure it, that codependency and learning how to have boundaries. These are things that are taught really, you know, strong within Al-Anon, but are things that every single human needs. I would agree. Absolutely. And I have recommended to many clients to go to Al-Anon. You know, they have a spouse who's, it really doesn't matter the substance, you know, I know opioids are so prevalent and have killed so many people. I've done many readings for people who have lost children to opioid overdose to, you know,

people have lost spouses, some parents, you know, people have lost parents to an opioid overdose so it's very prevalent um and you know what do you do how do you cope with that and so you know learning that um there's nothing that you could have done so many times people entertain guilt and they're like why didn't i know my son was doing this or my daughter or whoever um i'm so guilty and they carry this heavy weight of guilt which is really unnecessary meanwhile that son or daughter's coming through from the spirit world and absolutely saying i'm taking personal responsibility i'm the one that took the drug um personal responsibility is always uh it's a fact so saying that we it's a natural law anything that you create returns to you that's good bad or neutral it returns these damn laws they are true but oh yeah

you know you mentioned one earlier about the pendulum and the law of polarity and things you know are oftentimes and it seems very much right now in today's world on one side you know and then you have the divine feminine coming forward. She's rising within females and males. And I feel like the divine masculine also is starting to come forward, which I feel is as important. Oh, absolutely. You can, any person, regardless regardless don't even think about gender both males and females have you know the yin and the yang within you know that circle that we see with the black and the white and it makes one unified circle so the truly balanced individual and the truly spiritual spiritually aware person in my

opinion uses both of those to move forward to evolve and you say this is bad you know this this idea that's out there now about toxic masculinity well no masculinity is necessary in order to accomplish because it's femininity is receptivity sensitivity um the heart chakra you know you need both of those to be a truly balanced, spiritually focused individual. You cannot have a preference of one over the other. So they need to be integrated. And interestingly, we spoke earlier about Pluto entering Aquarius. Aquarius is also about these polarities. And this is sort of the shadow side of Aquarius Aquarius is also about these polarities and this is sort of the shadow side of Aquarius

of going to that extreme and being very stubborn about it and and flexible and that's not the answer either no you know there has to be yeah it's radicalism uh that would be aquarian you know stepping outside of the established order that's aquarius it cannot be rebellion simply for rebellion's sake right or conscious conscious rebellion how about that for example someone asked me to do some art on a on a dragon for them and i created this feminine dragon. It was beautiful. I mean, I was like, oh my God, this is like exactly what I'm feeling. She's going to wind.

And they give it to her and she loved it. She came back a few weeks later and said, I was thinking it's a male dragon. And I was like, no, it's not a male dragon. No, this is me, right? So I'm like, okay, fine. So I make her a male dragon. I give it to her. And she's like, well, that's a very masculine, robust, kind of menacing looking dragon.

And I was like, well, that's what you wanted. She was like, I was thinking more of a divine masculine dragon. I gave her Putin. I gave her a very Nazi looking dragon. But I realized that this was something inside of me that needed to heal or see from a different perspective, the masculine, that this is really what I was seeing. It was actually such a great teacher, Carol, because then I had to go back and connect with that divine masculine

and came back with, you know, something that she liked. There's such a good teacher. It was so telling. Oh, the universe will provide many lessons. It's just, you know, you know, the old familiar one, uh you had a terrible time with whatever doesn't matter and then a couple years go by right and this similar lesson comes around and

you go wait a second i thought i dealt with that back there but here it is yeah and so my rationale is the universe gives tests it gives tests and and it says well you're saying and you're thinking that you mastered this particular lesson right pop quiz and work and you know what whatever it might be and then boom here comes this other lesson and you go I don't know nothing so yeah I mean I'm very real in all the interviews I do and all my books I'm extremely transparent I'll be the first one to tell you do i stumble yep i stumble i think anyone who's doing this work you absolutely you have to do your own inner work or you you are not going to be affected at helping others people out there who are doing mediumship or whatever healing work uh my personal opinion they should not be doing it

because they haven't dealt with their own shadow stuff yeah you really that's plutonium also by the way shanna with your uh uh your own shadow because a lot secretiveness as well it's about secretiveness as well it's about things that are hidden things that are underneath the surface things that we don't want to look at and go no no not that that can't be me but yet it is us in some way so courageously and then you can see it in the light of day and it's not underground anymore and then you can use whatever you want there are millions of healing tools you you can use to address that and yeah there are layers of healing say that you dealt with x y and z five years ago but here it comes again we may not have gone to the deeper level of whatever that particular um imbalance is and when you heal yourself you're helping heal the collective the greater consciousness and what else

i have discovered through many years of mediumship is some of these dysfunctional family patterns general trauma that have come down from you know maybe great grandma or before great great grandma's time if it's not healed in that previous generation its energy energy is not destroyed it will come down in one form or another it may a couple of generations but then it comes to another soul in that same line so whenever we heal here uh we automatically are helping to heal our ancestors and and the future lineage is such a timeless feeling you know what you know what's interesting is that i end up finding out and i never knew much about this but I did a lot of study afterwards shortly after that whole dragon thing right before the new year maybe you know in February right after I end up having a Chinese astrologist come on and she was talking about how it's the year of the dragon and I'm a

dragon so I had to learn how I uh I was like oh wow talk about facing your shadow and and understanding how to balance the fire within you when we when we're really conscious and of of everything going on I think we're much more prone to notice synchronicities, right? That's what happened to you with the dragon. That's a good example. I see this all the time in my own life, but also with clients, you know, well, it just happened that this bird flew over me. I was thinking of my mom in spirit, you know, or not, you know, repeating know repeating oh i'm always seeing 11 11 well you're into a new cycle in your life oh i'm always getting eights okay eights are power numbers manifestation health money um you know material goods so everything has meaning i think when we

become much more spiritually aware we are more prone to receive these synchronicities uh and that they create meaning in our life sometimes it's just to simply say you're on the right pathway you know you're you're right on and i think the universe gives us these little pats on the on the head and saying okay here's a sign for you yeah oh and there's a page on facebook they call them god winks you know god is winking at us by giving us these synchronistic messages and and I love when I get those because I feel that way. I feel like, okay, I'm on the right path or I'm supported in this endeavor or whatever it is. And so, and if you're present, you'll see him. If you're not like, you know, this week has been a busy week for me, for you. And, you know, so, you know, remembering to find those moments to be present, so that you can

align back with the universe, really. Do you have a practice that you do every day? Or do you just kind of just find those moments when you can? No, I do have before every single private reading that i do i do a brief meditation and in that meditation it's like a minute when i first began this pathway years ago i was doing meditation every single evening for an hour i mean sort of religious about it i mean very got to do my meditation it's a really drift and so my spirit team my guides you know those in spirit who helped me said if you're just going to like lay there and drift and your thoughts are coming in don't do it you know or shorten it so then i discovered mindfulness through a very painful period in my life this was about five years ago i've discovered mindfulness through a very painful period in my life, this was about five years ago. I've discovered mindfulness that focuses on the breath and we become an observer of our own thoughts, you know, thoughts.

But we the problem comes in is when we internalize those thoughts, we believe those thoughts instead of just going, okay, that's a thought. It's like a cloud passing by over my head. I'm going to let it pass by. So when I discovered mindfulness, that's what I do now. And what I do in there is just I surrender. I surrender to higher order. If people become fairly proficient and well-known for mediumship, and I allow whoever is going to come through in that reading, I don't control that.

Whoever needs to speak to that client, I defer to them. And what they say, because it's not my reading. It's not my reading. I'm simply a conduit. So what I'm saying is I surrender. And I think, you know, once you get this ego, that's so determined to control everything out of the way and to judge everything and to go do to do to do you know here's the order then this wonderful synchronicity of your own life like things just flowing come comes up and if we allow that to occur then it's really effortless you know we can planning we can still plan you know still have dates on the calendar or you know whatever we're going to do but also giving way to the soul the guidance of one's own soul and allowing the soul which is all-knowing and eternal to

find that light on our pathway and that's a prayer that i have i will say spirit please lead me in pathways of light in accordance with my divine purpose that's just a little thing i made up but i say it at night you know um these times we're all living in these are very scary there's so much fear and so anything that's going to bring comfort and it's not fairy tales i don't mean, you know, throw up your hands and go, well, I'll just pretend that. No, I'm not saying that. But to find the anchor within, the anchor within self, because that is never going to change. The outside world will always change. People, places and things will always change you could lose money tomorrow you can somebody can pass over tomorrow we could lose a job i remember eckert till eckert totally is one

of my favorite spiritual teachers and in um a new earth finding your life's purpose he has this scene and he goes i went out walking in the woods woods and with my friend and we were walking and there was a sign posted there. And it said, warning, all structures unstable. And he says, he goes, isn't that a good metaphor, you know, for the world world for the physical world um yeah so we're seeing all of this instability right now that's why it's so important at this time that people find the anchor you know spirit within you know i just came across an email that you sent us in 2021. It was after we had a conversation. It's so funny. It says, if mediums can communicate with the dead, imagine what a large can do.

There you go. It's so funny. Yeah. And, you know, that brings up another point. I think that humor is so important to when we're going through tough times, you know, whether it's personal issues or just, you know, collective consciousness. I think we've all lost a sense of humor. I just I love comedy.

I love standup comedy. My husband and I watch it on TV and I would, if I would go to comedy clubs and so forth. Laughing is really important. Plus it's a stress reliever. There's this TikTok. It's inappropriate, but it's the funniest thing ever. It's called the angry grandma. Oh my God. appropriate but it's the funniest thing ever it's called the angry grandma oh my god yesterday i was watching it while i was doing the dishes and i was laughing so hard just was laughing and laughing um i mean it's she cusses like a sailor i mean it's hilarious yeah i'll have to look her up

and it doesn't have to be political humor or anything right a good and not doesn't even you know there's a lot of comics there they get really dirty and stuff or swear doesn't have to be that i mean right you know i i'm a fan of the old comedians you know they were genuinely funny and i love george carlin now he did a lot of commentary on on i i consider the man was a genius uh you know with commentaries on on human being a human being you know things and you you'd be sitting there when i sit there and watch his videos I'm like yep yep you know identifying with it so humor is also a really important healing tool and that doesn't cost anything you can tune into you know YouTube comedy or you know any place watching videos so there's a lot of different healing tools but I do or people

in my field with mediumship that's just one tool in the toolbox i have never promoted mediumship as a be all and cure all for grief it's not you have to walk that pathway on your own it's just like with spiritual awakening nobody can do that for you right can be somebody who points the direction, but you ultimately have to do that journey on your own. So true. Carol, thank you so much for coming on again and bringing your wisdom. I think it's so needed right now. This is a really hard year. and even though it's hard but we do have more awakened people than ever so maybe it's just in between the structures falling and the rebuilding of something better yeah we're we're at a tipping point that that's been clear i was given the message by my spirit

team it's probably last fall in 2023. And they said, buckle your seatbelt because 2020 is going to be very, very difficult. And they didn't mean so much for me personally, I don't think, but, you know, what was going on in the collective. So we are at this very pivotal point. I would urge people who are listening, turn inward, turn to your eternal source of spirit.

It doesn't have to have a name. It doesn't have to have a religion or whatever, but focus on that place of safety, that place of sanctuary within yourself and doesn't cost anything and meditation doesn't cost anything you can do it you have to carve out the time you know five minutes in the morning five minutes at night i drink my coffee in the morning outside even if it's just a minute letting my dogs out, you know, you have to kind of take advantage of whatever you've got. And those moments of mindfulness, you know, those things,

and a lot of this stuff can be found also in your new book, which I did have the honor of reading. And I loved your new book. In fact fact I'll read what I wrote about your book the art of sensing if you want me to yeah kind enough to offer an endorsement yeah I said the art of sensing Carol delivers what I feel is an urgent and profound message to humanity to journey within and connect with your higher self. The book serves as a guide offering a rich array of tools to access the dormant aspects within each of us that are waiting to awaken. This book will encourage you to embark on your inner journey, exploring the depths of your consciousness. Carol draws from her years of experience,

providing an abundance of wisdom and guidance. Her exploration spans across time and space, revealing the keys to unlocking your true sense of the soul beautifully stated yeah i was compelled to offer this book because of the shift that we're going into you know but you don't have to be a writer or somebody, you know, who's in the public eye. You yourself, everyone who's listening to this, the individual, you are very powerful. You have the ability to add healing, positivity, whatever you want to call it to this great shift that that we're in and this book i guess was my one of my contributions to helping people to understand

pay attention to their intuition that's why i called it the art of sensing this will probably be published on late this year so in the meantime, I mean, we all have to, you know, each day is a new beginning. Each day we have that opportunity to reinvent ourself. The answer isn't out there. Like you were saying in the beginning, I found that in your personal journey,

this is about you learning that it's not out there somewhere that capabilities within myself that resource is within myself it surely is and that's for every person you don't have to be rich you don't have to be you know well known or you are equally important in the mind, the compassionate, wonderful mind of spirit. And I think sometimes we really need to be reminded of that. Absolutely. Thanks so much for reminding us all today, Carol.

It was so good to see you. I really appreciate you coming on. Tell everybody where they can find your book, your website. You have so many things on your website, so many tools and so many great resources. It's unbelievable. Well, my books, you won't get an autographed copy of my books from Amazon, but they're all available on Amazon and Kindle, Barnes & Noble, my publisher, Collective Inc. They're not under the imprint. My book is under the imprint of six books. That's an imprint of Collective Inc.

But you can also purchase it through my website. I autographed a copy. So everything's available there. Also, anyone who is interested in private reading, soulvisions.net. That's my website. And you can contact me through my website and you can see the products I have. I also have a home study course on there for intuition. I have a mediumship page on Facebook and it's facebook.com backslash soul medium, S O U L plus the word plus the word medium. That's on Facebook. All right, and I'll talk to you soon.

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