Sense of Soul - Tapping for Healing and Happiness

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

Today on Sense of Soul we have Jamie Lee Silver she is an Accredited Certified EFT Practitioner, EFT Specialty Areas: Grief and Loss, Relationships, Financial Abundance Other Training: Certified Energy Healer. She does Past, Present, Future Matrix Reimprinting, is a Skilled Intuitive and is a Certified Stone Medicine Practitioner. Jamie loved being a mother to her young boys. Best time ever. Her boys were both star track runners and people with huge hearts. Aaron is an Physician in Portland Oregon. Jamie is proud of Aaron's accomplishments, and even more proud of who he is as a person. His favorite days as a physician are the days he can spend more time with each of his patients.  Aaron and Jamie have gone through a rough road together. In 2013, Jamie's younger son Ben (and Aaron's best friend) hit a roadblock he could not get over. Ben was a singer, songwriter and poet. He had chosen a university where he received  a full scholarship for running. And, he had an injury that prevented him from running. He suffered greatly. And that suffering took its toll.  In 2014 Ben began showing signs of late-onset schizophrenia. It was a frightening and confusing time where he had frequent catatonic episodes and bursts of anger. The suicide attempts began soon after and in 2015 Ben's schizophrenia took its toll when Ben ended his earthly life, and Ben and Jamie's relationship transitioned to a non-physical one.  Jamie turned to hwe spiritual practices and began a written conversation with Ben. Their first year of correspondence is published in Jamie and Ben's book "Our Forever Ben, one mon's letters to her son-in-spirit and his poetic replies." Jamie's writing was a great source of comfort to her.  Jamie's other source of comfort through her grieving process was her growing practice of EFT tapping.  Because EFT helped her so much, she decided to become skilled and certified by choosing the best mentors in the field, Alina Frank and Craig Weiner. She earned her certification in EFT in 2019 through EFT International.   Jamie's been a mentor and a teacher her entire life. In 2021 Jamie earned her certificate in Grief and Death Studies from the Center for Life Transitions in Fort Collins, Colorado, honing her skills as a grief companion.  Jamie's sessions have immediate impact. Working with Jamie for just one session is life changing. She works worldwide via Zoom and in person in St. Pete, Florida.  Is is time for you to free yourself from sadness, grief, loneliness, and/or hopelessness?  Set up a free consultation with Jamie today by emailing her at [e-mail] or texting her at 630-926-3001   Visit Sense of Soul website and check out 2025 new affiliates look for the Network of Lightworkers! www.senseofsoulpodcast.com  

Hey Soulseekers, it's Shanna. Journey with me to discover how people around the world awaken to their true sense of soul. Now go grab your coffee, open your mind, heart and soul. It's time to awaken. Today on Sense of Soul, I have Jamie Lee Silver. Jamie has been a mentor and a teacher her entire life. Through her own personal great loss, Jamie found comfort in EFT tapping, which helped her through the grieving process and to grow. Turning her pain into purpose, she would become a skilled and certified EFT practitioner, helping her clients free themselves from sadness, grief, loneliness, and hopelessness. She is a certified energy healer, she's a skilled intuitive and a certified stone medicine practitioner. And she's joining us today to tell us how just one session can be life-changing.

So please welcome Jamie. Thank you so much for coming on. I really do look forward to being your student today and learning more. Oh, I'm happy to be here. Thank you so much for inviting me. Yeah, Jamie, tell me, how did you fall into this journey? Wow, I've been on this journey forever,

as I'm sure many of your readers and you yourself know, we were born into this world as feeling beings with no instructions on how to deal with, cope with what these feelings were. At the time, like feelings are for later. We need to deal with what's at hand right now and those feelings there, they're really not important and you just need to get on with life because that's what's important here. And going through school and absorbing all the emotions from everybody around me,

I didn't even know that that was happening. I just knew that generally the outside of my life was just fine, but inside I was frightened. There were all these emotions bubbling up and I never felt worthy or quite right because we're just always bouncing off all the comparisons all around us. And I began my spiritual quest like super, super young

because of the music of John Denver, which some of some listeners will know and some of your listeners will. Oh my gosh, Colorado. Yes. Yes. And John said, I love the life around me. I feel a part of everything I see. I love the life within me. A part of everything is here in me,

which is actually very Buddhist in thought and very other spiritualities also, not just Buddhist, that we encompass the universe as beings and that what we do and what we seek and how we feel has ripples everywhere. So I believed this from a very young age and I also believe that happiness was my responsibility and that if I was going to be happy to make other people happy and to be happy myself, it was a search that I had to, I'm going to use the word conquer, because in some ways it is conquer, because you have to win over the parts of yourself that want to lie down.

And so my, what did you call it? Pain to purpose moment. I love that phrase. My pain to purpose moment came as a mommy. And oh my god, being a mommy was the most favorite thing that and still is of my lifetime. I gave birth to two little Buddha boys and they were just the light of my life. And boy boy we had so much fun laughing together and creating our world together and oh my god and one of my Buddha boys was in pain and as a mommy and as any of those moms out there and I'm not going to drag everybody through everything so you don't have to turn off so you don't have to turn it off now. But my Buddha boy, Ben, was a runner and a star runner.

And it was so important to him. And then he got a scholarship for college, and he couldn't run anymore. And I, at the time, had been a practicing Buddhist for 20-some years. And we chanted. We did everything we could, and eventually he came down with a mental illness

and took his own life. And right before that happened, I learned about tapping. And I remember sitting in front of my mirror on the floor, because I had one of those wall to ceiling and a soft rug. And I was tapping and it said, I love myself. I love and completely accept myself. And I started weeping.

And for all the years that I'd lived, I always knew loving myself was a key to life and happiness. And I realized that there was still a divide between wanting to love myself and actually experiencing in that moment. And I thought maybe tapping is the key to bridging that. And I just, as I do, I dove into it wholeheartedly. And through my two and a half years of, you know,

trying to keep Ben alive, and then after he passed, we continue our communication and we have a wonderful relationship. And he has opened my life to so many things. So that's part of my message that life lives on. And my tapping message is that all of those, oh my God, all of that regret, all of that I wish I could have,

if only I'd, and all the emotions actually live in the body and that by tapping we can free ourselves of those lower emotions clear our brains so that they can think better and emerge into this world as we continue emerging into this world, but as a clear thinking person who had suffered the deepest grief, I felt that my value to the world was much more, even profound because I could relate to people on so many different ways.

And I became clinically certified and have been helping people help themselves from grief, get their lives restarted after divorce or anything. Anyway, that's my joy that I bring to the world that I'm happy to share with you now. I'm so sorry for your loss, but I am happy for your journey and for the lives that you are helping and that Ben is helping. After my dad died, he was such a huge part of my foundation.

He was in my everyday life. I worked with him. My kids, he was just was all of ours, all of ours. And when he died, I thought to myself, there's no way, I don't know how I'm going to function without my dad. I mean, I just don't know. I mean, who am I going to be? What am I, how am I going to, what am I going to do? And what I had to do was I had to learn to rely on myself. I had to learn to instead of,

we kind of had a codependent relationship. And I remember saying many times, and I remember the first time I said it, it felt wrong, but it wasn't. But that he had given me birth twice once in his death. Wow. That's how it feels. Oh, wow. But so I have you never loved before, then you maybe you wouldn't experience grief. I mean, they are hand in hand, aren't they? Yes. Yes, we are hand in hand. So while you were speaking, of course, I'm a mother.

So, you know, and so I was feeling it. Right now, that emotion is in the moment. Right? Not that I won't care or be able to connect later, but I'm not going to carry it in my body. That kind of emotion. Right. Right.

But there's an emotion like when my dad died and it's the silliest thing in the world. I had guilt for bringing him to the hospital. Now, how ridiculous is that? You bring somebody sick to a hospital, but I did because I thought maybe had I not bring him there, he would have lived longer. And I held on to that. And I figured it out a few years later that it was still with me.

So that's a different kind of emotion, isn't it? Yes. Yes. That's I call that the what ifs, if I don't leads, you know, and they follow there to me, one of the most painful parts of grief or maybe the most painful because you blame yourself. Yeah, that was the responsible thing to do. But yet I felt it was my responsibility, which his life really wasn't my responsibility because we're all on our own journey and

I do believe in soul contracts and stuff like that, which helps and I also practice non-attachment Yeah, huge, but I didn't that was part of my journey That was part of my grief part of my healing was learning non-attachment like learning impermanence Yeah, which is a Buddhist Yeah. Which is a Buddhist teaching. It is a Buddhist teaching. It is a Buddhist teaching. And we're humans and we have these human bodies. And one of my first revelations with tapping

is that our emotions live in our bodies. I really never knew that. I mean, of course, when I felt things, I felt it in parts of my body, but I didn't realize that that then could be a key for releasing them, which is how we do EFT, just embracing that feeling and then just tapping and letting it I'm just going to say for the moment, come out the top of our heads or the bottom of our feet so that we can think more clearly

and be happier. You know, I am a body worker, so that did help. I understand what you're talking about because I for years was rubbing people's stress. And I'm just like, right? I'm rubbing this interesting person's stress forever. And then finally, after maybe years of having them, they're like, yeah, you know, that all started when I was going through a divorce. Oh, well, that makes sense. You've had chronic pain since your divorce? That might be connected. What kind of body work do you do?

Oh, I do all kinds. But, you know, I started out, you know, just with regular massage therapy, but I took all of the extras. And what I found was, yes, the body work feels good, right? The massage feels wonderful. It does. And in that, it has its purpose as well. But I found that when I was able to connect them with the energy that was living within the muscles, that that was where true healing happened. When I handed their power, you know, like, here's your power. Go ahead.

This is where it's at. Take it. You know, seeing grown men crying my table for the first time, you know, so much that they can't even leave after a session. Oh, how beautiful. Yeah, you have to, you know, creating that I I realized I was creating a space, a safe space for people, for one. And I never tell them what I think it is. I just let them lead me and I'm just, you know, like, what's here?

And I do a lot of Reiki, but some of my first practices were tapping. And it was something that calmed me. Yeah, it brought me to the present moment. Yes. Or one, there's so many aspects of it. Please tell me that because, you know, like with everything is so magical. We're so multi dimensional. So of course, it's not just one. That's wonderful. They brought you to the present moment. And there's a reason for that.

And the reason is that as you tap, you're basically communicating with your nervous system and taking it from the sympathetic nervous system that's reacting to everything to that parasympathetic nervous system, the one that makes your heart beat and the one that doesn't have cortisol running over everything, the fight and flight, etc.

So let's just do the chase by the bear analogy. The part of our bodies that is the most reactive is called the reptilian brain. In that reptilian brain, I'm sorry I even use that term, it's not something I usually use, it just popped up in my head. But it is the part of the brain that gets triggered by fear. When you get triggered by fear,

you're seeing a bear. What your body wants to do is get the heck out of there. So it takes all the resources, including your thinking capability, and puts them in your hands and your feet and your muscles and says, run! You don't have to think, just get the heck out of there. So what it does, it takes your brain offline. And I am pointing to this part of our brain because it's really important. And if you're just listening and not watching, I'm pointing to your forehead, essentially.

And when you start tapping, the cortisol drains from that area and suddenly you can think more clearly. So if any of you feel like you've been in a particular brain fog, since A, B, Z, D, there's so many things and for so many reasons, I want to let you know that there is hope for clearing that. After Ben became my angel, I went through a period where I was worried about my faculties because there were many times

that I was just like, where's my brain? Like, where'd it go? And the more I tapped, the more I learned, the more quickly a brain started just being like, Oh, this is me again. You know, how to think, I know what to do. And my practice of tapping also reinforces that. Hmm. Yeah, I love that. You know, I teach Reiki too and I always teach my students. It's actually,

I think a Qigong exercise, but you tap the insides of your legs, the outside of your legs, you tap your hips, you go up the vertical body, up your chakras. I do this almost every morning just to wake up, wake up. It brings you immediately present with your body. It's like, oh, I have a body again, especially come out of sleep, right? Cause you've been like in this ethereal world or you've been in a different brain wave. And so it really helps.

I mean, coffee helps as well, but this helps big time. I love that. Oh, I have a body again. Yeah. That's what it feels like. I know, I love it. I love it. It's so perfect.

Yeah. It feels so good. You're just like waking up every part of your body. You know, you can just say like, you love your body. You know, you could just whatever comes up, things come up when you tap. Yes, I love it. I love it. It's like I greet my plant.

I have this plant every morning. Hello. Yeah, yeah. I always say that it was part of my spiritual hygiene. You know, that part is a part of my spiritual hygiene. We think spiritual is only like, you know, esoteric, but it's also the body too, right? It's not all inside.

Exactly. It's our human. I love that. I love that. That's exactly right. And what the form of tapping that I've embraced is called clinical EFT because it is the form that all of the clinical experiments

are being done now. And the evidence is showing that like you can measure cortisol in the brain. You measure that the cortisol is down. There are many different things. And if anyone is interested in the studies that have been done, you can email me and I will send you links. But one of our main people is Dr. Peta Stapleton at Bond University in Australia. And she is really at the forefront of all of the evidence-based programs that are coming out now. So, for really at the forefront of all of the evidence based programs that are coming out now. So for instance, when I'm working with a client, I usually start with something that's close by have

been last week happened this week, because all of our frustrations or angers or emotions, they have they have ties down to where it all began. But I like to start gently into the here and now. And that can be things like this person cut me off in traffic. And I was so angry. I just kind of lost control, you know, or I got one for you. Thank you. Yesterday morning after I had to cancel you and I because daughter had a 90 minute delay. I actually before that woke up to my mom messaging me saying she had no water. Oh wow.

And I was like, oh my God, it's going to be that kind of day. I was so panicked. I was panicking. I was like, you know, trying to find my clothes. I need to rush over there to take care of the situation. I also get little bits of I wish my dad was here. Right. I thought this a lot over the past month. I also get little bits of, I wish my dad was here. Right? I thought this a lot over the past month.

So it's rooted somewhere, isn't it? It's not just the water, because the water ended up, it was fine after like an hour. Yeah. Yeah. And we know that. And I can take you on a little journey if you'd like. Do you want to? Yes, I would love it. People who are

listening now, you can take a moment and think for yourself. Is there some emotion that you would like to clear right now? And write it down and tap along with us because the benefits of us tapping right now you can also have tapping at home and you can just follow along with the words that we're saying and these benefits will come to you and I will lead you through a tapping sequence. First of all, there's nothing that you have to worry about in terms of remembering anything. There are no tests in tapping, none of those things. As we tap, I ask you questions and then you repeat what I lead you through and I'll also tell you where on your body you need to tap. I'll review the tapping points right now.

It's the side of the hand with your four fingertips running from the lowest knuckle on your pinky finger down to your wrist right there on the outside of your hand. Okay. Then we'll go to the head. And you can use two hands, one hand. It doesn't matter. You can go back and forth. Then we'll go inside the eyebrows right here. Yeah, that's helpful. And make sure to feel like kind of where your eyebrows start in the middle of your head, and then side of your eyes. And then under your eyes way high up on that ridge, and under your nose, and under your chin. And collarbone right here in

those two places. Yeah, right there. And then I choose to do inside rest. Beautiful. So those are the tapping points that we'll use. Some of you might have experienced a little bit of relaxation. Just doing that without words. So that's a big key for you that just tapping on these points, not even thinking about anything or just holding. If you don't want to tap that works too.

So those of you who have jobs that within that job situation, you feel emotions coming up under the table, you can just hold the inside of your wrist, take a little breath and feel your body compose itself. And think more clearly just doing that. I did not have these tools when I was in the high powered workforce myself. But boy, I had other tools. I knew about dancing and shaking it off and tapping the whole body. But these are good too. So what I'm going to ask you first, and what we're going to do is focus on the moment that you received that text from your mom, you may notice already that you're feeling some type of emotion in your body that something is lighting up

just remembering that text yesterday and what what what are you feeling it like rose right up into my heart right here. Okay okay. A little energy on my chest. Energy in your chest. Does it have a color? It looks blue. It looks blue. Okay. Is there a motion to go along with it? Um, urgency is I didn't know that's motion panic panic. Let's use panic. Just thinking back to yesterday, looking at

that text. And right now, this emotion in your body from a scale of zero to 10. What would you give that that you're feeling in your body right now thinking back to that memory back then? I mean, honest, it's almost like a a seven. That's good. That's good. It's still fresh. It gives you a yay. This gives us something to really work with. So tap on the side of your hand, back side of your hand between your finger. Yeah, you got it. Okay, so I'm going to lead you through

a tapping sequence. And if there are any words that I say that don't ring true, that you're like, no, Jamie, it was really like this, or this is how I feel it. Feel free to correct me. This is a journey we're both taking. Think of me as a guide on the walk, but we're both on that walk. Okay?

So even though I feel this panic, even though I feel this panic, my heart, my heart, just thinking about yesterday's text. Okay. Just repeat. Oh, just thinking about yesterday's text. I have no water. I have no water. It's okay to feel it. It's okay to feel it. It's okay to feel what I feel. It's okay to feel what I feel. And I deeply and completely love and accept myself.

And I deeply and completely love myself. So even though I feel this panic right now, love myself. So even though I feel this panic right now, even though I feel this panic right now, this blue feeling in my heart, this blue feeling in my heart, just thinking about yesterday's text, just thinking about yesterday's text from my mom, from my mom thing I have no water thing I have no water. Yeah, I deeply and completely love and accept myself. Yeah, I deeply and completely love and accept myself. And it's okay to feel the way I feel.

And it's okay to feel the way I feel. Even though I feel this panic. Even though I feel this panic. Right here in my heart. Right here in my heart. Just thinking about yesterday's text from my mom. Just thinking about yesterday's text from my mom. I have no water. I have no water. This panic. This panic. It's okay to

feel it. It's okay to feel it. Because it's there. Because it's there. It's okay to feel what I feel. It's okay to feel what I feel. It's okay to feel what I feel. It's okay to release it. It's okay to release it. And I'm sending signals to my body right now. And I'm sending signals to my body right now. That it's okay. That it's okay. And I deeply and completely love and accept myself. And I deeply and completely love and accept myself. And I deeply and completely love and accept myself. Now we're going to move our hands to the top of our head

and repeat after me. This panic in my blue heart. This panic in my blue heart. Come down to the eyebrows right between the eyebrows. This blue panic in my heart. This blue panic in my heart. Now the sides of your eyes, the temples. This blue panic in my heart. This blue panic in my heart. Take a nice breath while you're there.

You're doing just great. Give yourself a little pat on the back. Under your eyes, this blue panic in my heart. This blue panic in my heart. Underneath your nose, this blue panic in my heart. This blue panic in my heart. Underneath your lip, this blue panic in my heart underneath your lip this blue panic in my heart this blue panic in my heart collarbone this blue panic in my heart this blue panic in my heart and you're inside your wrist this blue panic in my heart this blue panic in my heart okay now I'd like you to take a sip of water. You're doing great. And shake out your hands a little bit. Kind of into the ground, move your head a little bit.

Breathe, yawn if you feel it. Yes, yawning is the change of the system. You're communicating with your nervous system right now. And of course, communicating with your energy system. That's okay. It's okay. You're giving yourself a release. And come back into the space right now. You had your water, have another sip if you'd like and give yourself a gauge and notice what's

changed. Is it still panic? Is your heart still feeling blue just thinking about answering that text saying I have no water. It's okay to feel whatever it is you feel. Is it still a seven? Did it go up? Did it go down? It's not a gauge of how well you're doing. What happened? No, I feel lighter. I do not feel that energy on my chest anymore. Okay. And we do testing. And we want to make sure that we kind of get to the bottom of it and and not and see how much more we can release if there's anything. So just close your eyes. Picture yourself yesterday. Your phone in your

hand, the text saying I have no water from your mom. Do you feel anything fluttering? Do you feel anything moving in any direction? I mean, honestly, I do feel something a little bit in my solar plexus. Okay. Okay. That came up. But at first, I was in a place of not reacting, you know, and then all of a sudden, like, reacting came up. Yeah, our emotions are in layers in your solar plexus.

And you're doing this absolutely great. I mean, this is exactly what this is all about. It's about recognizing, allowing and releasing. So what are you feeling in your solar plexus right now? It was almost like a tightness, like almost like a ramp right in the center of it. Okay, this tightness in your solar plexus, what number would you give it? Maybe like a four or five. And is it still there now?

Just thinking about opening that text? Yeah. Okay. This is what it's all about. You're doing great. You are doing great. Okay. So would the word panic be still the word that you would choose and it's perfectly fine if it is?

Not really. It's almost like a dullness. Like can't really put words to it as an emotion, but it seems like an old, almost like, you know, when you have like an old knot that's been there for a long time, you know, but you just never really worked out, you just lived with it. Okay, let's tap on that. See where it leads.

What kind of magic we can keep on curling. Okay. So even though I feel this tightness and cramping in my solar plexus, even though I feel this tightness and cramping in my solar plexus, even though I feel this tightness and cramping in my solar plexus, just thinking about that text that said, I have no water. It's okay to feel this. It's okay to feel this. It's there. It's there. Yeah. And I deeply and completely love and accept myself. And I deeply and completely love and accept myself.

Even though I feel this cramping in my solar plexus. Even though I feel this cramping in my solar plexus. This tightness. This tightness. It feels like it's been there a while. It feels like it's been there a while. Yeah, just thinking about getting that text. Just thinking about getting that text. I have no water. I have no water. Yeah. It's okay to give some attention to this. It's okay to give some attention to this. I'm in the right place at the right time. I'm at the right place at the right time. And I deeply and completely love and accept myself.

I deeply and completely love and accept myself. And even though I feel this tighten and cramping in my solar plexus. And even though I feel this tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. And even though I feel this tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. Just thinking about getting that text from my mom. Just thinking about getting that text from my mom. I have no water. I have no water. I deeply and completely love and accept myself.

I deeply and completely love and accept myself. And deeply and completely love and accept myself and honor myself and honor myself. We're going through this process of release. We're going through this process of release. Yeah, top of the head. This tightness and cramping in my solar plexus. This tightness and cramping in my solar plexus. Inside your eyebrow point. This tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. Tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. It's okay to feel it.

It's okay to feel it. It's okay to release it. It's okay to release it. Side of the eye, this tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. This tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. Take in nice breath. You're doing such a beautiful job. Under your eye, this tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. Tightening and cramping in my solar plexus.

Tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. I honor myself. I honor myself. I respect myself. I respect myself. Under your nose, this tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. This tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. Nice breath. Yawn if you can.

Good job. Underneath your lip, this tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. Tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. It's okay to feel it. It's okay to feel it. It's okay to feel it. It's okay to feel it. It's okay to release it. It's okay to release it.

Powerbone Point, this tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. Tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. Inside your wrist, this tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. This tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. This tightening and cramping in my solar plexus. Great job. Stretch to the sky. Oh, and I want you to stand up next to me, next to your chair and down if you want to. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, Great job. And sit down and have some water. If you need to, if you want to, if you can.

Hi little muffin. Oh my goodness. This is who I'm obsessed with. I don't blame you. And who is this? My name is Ellie. This is my grand puppy. Your grand puppy. Hi, Ellie. Oh, what a cute little pink tongue. Just look at that. Oh my goodness. That's therapy right there. Therapy right there. I was gonna say, I bet you didn't feel too much anymore. Jamie, I mean, I could feel it go though. I felt it drop. I feel nothing there right now. It was almost like there was a blockage and all of a sudden things were able to go, like there was a blockage and all of a sudden things were able to go and I'm feeling a lot. But really good.

Drink lots of water. Okay. Okay. She's like, you don't want to get stuck there. You're doing great. This is perfect. It does. It lifts.

Yeah. It lifts. Drink lots of water. I always recommend to my clients also if you could take a salt bath, you know how the energy system of the body works and it wants lots of water and lots of puppy snuggles or kisses. Yeah, no, it feels so good. And it feels like you reset me. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. There you go. And the beautiful thing about it is that you reset you. Yeah, right. I see myself as a teacher. And my clients stay with me. It depends. You know, some of them over a year or so,

I work with widows, I work with people in very deep grief. And some six weeks later, they're just like, whoa, I can do this. And you know, I also was thinking about it when I was going through your instruction, it's almost like it's primal in us. Right. We do tapping a lot. Yes.

When you hug someone, you kind of give them a little tap. Right. Yes. There's something in it. Is there something in our hands that knows that it needs to go to these spots? Right. Isn't that true? Yeah. Like when we're thinking.

Exactly. Just like that. Or if you're scared, you cover your solar plexus. Or moms always got their hands on their hips. But there's something innate, isn't it? Yeah, you're so right. You're so right. And we've been doing this forever, right?

And having this, I'm just going to say technology, body technology and thing to learn. You're so right. You're absolutely right. Yeah. And so I love that people have almost taken what is already in us and made instruction us and made instruction and a protocol, you know, after many studies, like you said, and then then they find out that there's even science that backs it up. Exactly. What a miracle. Exactly. And it doesn't involve, of course, I do recommend to people that need to go to the doctor for whatever reason. I don't mean to say that there's no use for the medical industry.

But for me, I mean, Benjamino, my son, I mean, he, oh, my, we finished each other's sentences. We, he was a singer and a songwriter and a poet and you know, and the fact that we can live so happily together, even after he's not physically here. I really love that it brings hope to people. You know, I've heard many stories of pain to purpose. It's part of releasing as part of healing is to share story.

Exactly. It's like tapping into it's tapping in life. I love the way you think. Is there anything else about your story and your experience here today that you'd like to share? Well, I think that, you know, this is something that is tangible for people, you know, to experience. I mean, because you're actually feeling this sensation, like there's this discernment, this connection between your body and your soul, and you're able to do it yourself. Like you said, so you're in that power, you're in the driver's seat, and you can experience it for yourself.

It's not one of those things where you're just handing your power over to someone else, and they're going to heal you or convince you because it is a very personal thing. Grief and pain and trauma. It a very personal thing, grief and pain and trauma. It's very personal. And I think that you said at the very beginning, we've been so used to like stuffing someone called a stuffers. We're stuffers. I love that. We've been stuffing away our emotions, not just, you know, they often say about men, but women too.

I mean, I definitely put on many masks as a mother, young mother, especially like I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. And, you know, all those times that you said, I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine was stuffing into your meat somewhere. Yes. Especially, you know, at The times of writing you weren't fine. And so it's okay. Like this is healing. And you know what? I've been saying, this has kind of been the theme

of like the past six months. Like if you wanna like help heal the world, it starts with you. Like heal yourself. You said it at the beginning too. It's your responsibility to find that happiness, to find that healing. How beautiful. That's great.

That's really great. And I do recommend that people work with a practitioner to get started for sure. Oh yeah. You know, because you could feel the power of the reflection, right? Absolutely. And do you think that I would have came up the words that I love and completely love and accept myself? You think that I would have just willingly said that

to myself? I mean, yes, maybe on a good day, I'm real connected, but when you're facing your trauma, your fear, all of those negative things that you've been holding, you're not thinking, I love myself. You're thinking about the fear. That's the focus. So as a facilitator, you helped me not only face that fear, but do it with love and compassion for myself. Yeah. Yeah. And you felt safe, right? I did. You created a very safe space. Yes.

Yes. That's part of my extensive training, of course, because I want people to feel safe and loved as they're becoming the full expression of who they are. Yeah. But it is a very fast healing. That's the facts. Yes.

Like I'm not, there's no joke in here, guys. I mean, that was, I mean, and it actually, you know, I mean, I had to be honest, like, you know, I noticed something else, right? Once it was off my heart. But that's probably very common, is it not? Oh, yes. We're carrying, you know, layers and layers of things. That is, that's the name of the game.

That's why we test. Let's take another look just in case. We're even glad that you could do this virtually now. Oh my goodness. It's all right, my clients are all over the world. I just love it. I just love it. I do all my work via zoom. Well, you know, I might connect you with my friend. She lost

her her youngest child to to suicide. And then like two years later, she lost her other daughter in an accident. So her children, both of her girls, I'm honored that you would think of doing that. And I have worked with people who have lost both their children. They're only their only children. Do you want to hear just a little story about this magic that happened? There was someone that I worked with, of course, I don't name names or, you know, that I worked with, of course, I don't name names or, you know, who had lost both his children, one in kind of an accident, and

the his heart actually, and the other who just couldn't stand it. So the suicide came second. And she felt responsible, even though she wasn't any and he came to me and we just went gently into his heart, gently into the sensations in his heart. We didn't say what the emotions were even. We just straight into the sensation in the body, very gently.

And about a few minutes in, I don't know how many exactly, he closed his eyes and I saw a tear running down And about a few minutes in, I don't know how many exactly, he closed his eyes and I saw a tear running down his eyes. I let him just be in the space he was in. And when he opened his eyes, he said, for the first time, I feel my children. And he credits that with a wonderful turning point. He was able to let them in. Because grief can be so heavy.

Oh, it can. And that's why I focus on grief, because I know that it can suck you down a hole. And I realized when Ben this, that there was this huge gaping hole in front of me. It was just so easy to slip down into it. But from all the work that I had done, etc. I know, okay, this is the time to exercise my muscle of everything. Everything learned. Yeah, everything learned more than ever before. And then

of course, to use that to help people. So it's, it's my honor to help people in that, in that tender. Yes. Yeah. And I think of Ben helped get you there, Ben helped that man get there. So you know, it's just so beautiful, isn't it? In that way? Beautiful and life just goes and love. Yeah. It doesn't disappear. No energy lives forever. Wow, that's so beautiful. I'm just so glad that we made up this session today. I really needed it. Thank you so much. I say it's a session, it's an interview, but I feel like I

just had an amazing session with you. I did. Thank you. Thank you. There's something else that was kind of heavy on me. Someone had sent me or happened to say, it was in Canada. I know that we have some of this here in our, in States. And I think even in Colorado, I actually know someone who had an assisted suicide. In Canada, you know, it's called made or something like that. But it's not just for people who have a terminal illness. It's not just for that. If you if you have a disability and mental illness, like they're going a little far with that. It doesn't sit right in my body at all because I have a child to use on the spectrum. You know, I have people in my family who have mental illness. You know, I think everyone's here for a reason.

Everyone's life, you know, has its purpose or whatever. And sometimes it is to leave early. But to make it that easy, it's almost as if it's some sort of actually the woman in the interview that I watched she called it eugenics and You know, it's almost like we're trying to Rid of those who are suffering so we don't have to see them There's many many things that can help heal you. You know, this is one.

And each day is a new beginning. Each moment is a new beginning. There's a phrase in Buddhism called Hon-Nyé Myo, and it means from this moment forth, like every moment. Hon-Nyé Myo, Hon-Nyé Myo, Hon-Nyé Myo. That's right. That's right. If people want to work with you, if people want to learn more, where can they go?

A couple of different places. One is tapforhappiness.gmail.com is my email. I me on the telephone and you can text if for some reason I don't pick up. But my telephone number, I'm from the Chicago area. Right now I'm in Florida, which is lovely, is 630-926-3001. three zero nine two six three zero zero one. And what we'll do on that telephone call is set up a time to talk. And then we'll probably do a Zoom, you know, just to see what's going on with you

and what your goals might be for working together. And there are other different modalities that are similar that you might want to know about to matrix re-imprinting, which is a way of reconsolidating our emotions about what's happened in our past. That's so magical and beautiful. Then I do also teach automatic writing. I also have a tap for happiness.com is my website. Well, thank you, Miss Jamie. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. This has been a been a pleasure. Thanks for listening to sense of soul.