Sense of Soul - The Age of Aquarius

Episode Date: June 21, 2024

Host Shanna Vavra welcomed Spiritual Teacher, Dr Michael Lennox on Sense of Soul Podcast. He is a psychologist, astrologer, expert in dreams and dream interpretation, podcast host, and the author of several books, including his newest book, Psychic Dreamer: Exploring the Connection Between Dreams and Intuition. He conducts classes on shadow work, self investigation, spiritual practice, and of course, astrology, in a worldwide practice based in Southern California. He is the host of Conscious Embodiment with Dr. Michael Lennox. Where he talks about the astrology of the week and helps listeners decipher their dreams. You can tune in on to his YouTube channel like I do where he shares his expertise and has attracted a global audience and regularly shares his insights including his daily astrological reading segment “Red Robe Astrology”. He has been seen internationally on many television shows, beginning with the Sci Fi Network’s The Dream Team and has also been featured on numerous network and cable television venues including NBC’s Emmy award-winning Starting Over, Soap Talk, The Wayne Brady show and many others. His radio appearances talking about the power of dreams number in the hundreds. For astrology classes, dream circles, daily astrology and more visit his website: https://michaellennox.com

Hello, my soul-seeking friends. It's Shanna. Thank you so much for listening to Sense of Soul podcast. Enlightening conversations with like-minded souls from around the world, sharing their journey of finding their light within, turning pain into purpose, and awakening to their true sense of soul. If you like what you hear, show me some love and rate, like, and subscribe. And consider becoming a Sense of Soul Patreon member, where you will get ad-free episodes, monthly circles, and much more. Now go grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. Grab your coffee, because today you're going to awaken with Dr. Michael Lennox. He is a psychologist, astrologer, an author, and expert in dreams. He teaches classes in self-investigation to a worldwide audience. As the host of the weekly podcast

Conscious Embodiment, He also shares his insights of astrology in his daily astrological reading segment called Red Rove Astrology. I had him on in the spring where we talked about his newest book, Psychic Dreamer. So please welcome Dr. Michael Lennox. Oh, wait a minute. You don't have your robe on.

No, honey. It's not four in the morning. Okay, fine. You know, I've had people be like over the years, people have been like, why are you wearing a robe? It's like, it's five in the fucking morning. Would you rather have me wearing what I wore to sleep? Because that's nothing.

I could do naked astrologer. Oh, you're the best. Oh, that's funny. No, I, you know what? I love your red robe astrology. Oh, thank you. Yeah. I do too, actually.

Yeah, it's just fun. You're fun. It's fun. People, people will say, oh my God, how do you do it every day? It's like, oh no, it's like brushing my teeth and having coffee. Like my day doesn't feel complete unless I do it. Really loved her last episode about dreams. And you want to hear something funny that I didn't tell you is that I have a recurring dream of a man in a red robe.

Oh, weird. Like from before? Yeah. You can agree with me? Yeah. Okay. Well, I mean, he's in like more of a Roman robe. Yeah, I get it.

He's robed. Well, you know, I've not been able to receive astrology that well. Like it's something that's really hard for me. Here's the thing about astrology. Most people understand astrology through the idea of the archetypes and the meaning, because that's what you're exposed to. Oh, right. There's meaning. And I'm a Gemini. I'm actually Leo. Right. And so I identify with these things. There must be something to the archetypal meaning of astrology. But then if you want to learn astrology and work with it, if you can't do math and geometry and analyzing and structural thinking, you're not going to be good at astrology. Okay. Because half of it is geometry and rules. Now, I'm an unusual kind of guy in that I have a very equal access to rational, logical structure and fluid, interpretive, you know, feminine archetypal sensibility. Like when I was in high school, took my SATs, exact same score, math and English.

And my mom said to me, she's like, that's really odd. That's unusual. I was like, well, whatever. I didn't make anything of it, but it is in fact accurate of me that I am equally good at structure analysis and things that are mental and a fluid, more feminine, interpretive approach to things. And that makes astrology the perfect sort of modality for me. Because you have to understand, it's all geometry and angles and 60 degrees and 90 degrees and passing transits. I got this recently. Is that like a Merkaba? Yeah. Yes, I have one.

I should have ordered. Oh, yes. You have there is a 12-sided piece of geometry. And if you look at it, it's very beautiful. And you can feel the energy of the beauty of the complex geometry. But now imagine that you're going to put on your like eyeglass loop and look at it and count the angles

and see where the divots are. And like it's the technical side of astrology, you know? And so once people get into the world of wanting to learn, if you have trouble with math and geometry, you might have trouble grasping how astrology works. But that doesn't stop you from receiving the archetypal information that's delivered by a good astrologer who's sharing what's happening. And I feel like I got a little bit more curious about astrology because I'm so sensitive of what's going on up there. Oh, honey, you're killing me. That's why I got into it. I mean, almost quite literally not. I didn't choose this as a reason to learn. But the thing that made me grab astrology and say, oh, I must have this tool is that I have what I now identify as

an incredible energetic sensitivity. Right. And so when I was younger and in my childhood, teenage years and all of my 20s and probably much of my 30s, I had a mythology about myself that I was always sick. The reason why was that my father was bona fide an ill man. He had many, many, many problematic illnesses. He died fairly young and he had conditions. He was in the hospital last five, six years of his life. I mean, he was an ill man. And I, in that identification of the sins of the father are being laid upon the son. I believe that these feelings I had in my body of discomfort were illness. Turned out to just be big energy. And my body is so sensitive to the energy. I describe it like being carsick, right? That it's like all is well, life is fine.

You're going where you're going, but the movement of it rumbles your tummy and makes you feel ill. And there are days where the energy is big on my chart. And it can be that the interpretation of the geometrical hits on my chart that day are what we would call positive. I can still feel like shit on that day because my body is being required to be with big waves of energy that this sensitive little physical body responds to. And so when I started working with astrology in that way and noted that the days I had that feeling that I used to call sick, which never led to an illness because it wasn't sick. It was an energetic response to big energy. And then it was a game changer for me. And it really allowed me to let go of some fearful thoughts I had about my embodiment and just use astrology

as a contextualizing tool to measure the energy of any given day and then work with it. Yeah, same. Of course, I didn't figure this out forever like you. And it was just the moon cycle that I was following at first that I noticed, right? I love the full moon. I mean, I can howl like a wolf, but like the new moon would come around and I'd feel like crap. And I started to be able to predict it. Wow. Must be a new moon. Oh, it is. And so that's how I started to track it.

And then I started to notice, and it was only about two years ago, I was calling the solar storms. And I never, I didn't even know what a solar storm was. And I had like one person mentioned, well, there is a solar storm. And I was like, a solar storm? What's that? Yeah. I have to check in on the website periodically because I too have a sensation of discomfort energetically on days when we've got a lot of activity from the sun.

Yeah. And it's uncanny. So it's funny too. I love this. I feel sick at the full moons and great at the new moons. Yeah. Consistently so. Yeah. So when you say to me that you sort of went through an experience where you organically clocked what was going on by virtue of what your body was saying,

and then you checked and you saw that it was the new moon yet again, yet again, yet again. In the world of research, that's called anecdotal evidence. It's not empirical evidence. It's not retestable. But I, in my body, have done 30 years of anecdotal evidence with my own body and the bodies of clients I've sat with. And you could like, if this were the inquisition and they were putting me in front, I'd be like, just give me the gasoline. I will douse myself and light myself on fire because there's nothing you could say that would remove from me my belief that astrology is so, and working with it is one of the best tools to get through a life where we would otherwise, I would think I was out of my mind if I didn't have astrology. Well, and it seems like most ancient cultures would agree

with you. Well, think about what it must have been like to be thousands and thousands of years ago when we were starting to gather in a way that made community occur. And then we're going to start talking, right? We're gathering our food. We're farming instead of hunting. And we sit around the fire. We're going to talk about what's going on. What are we going to talk about? We're going to talk about dreams and the dream life.

That's one of the reasons I love dreams, that world, because, you know, that's what we would talk about, the hunt and dreams around the fireplace. But we're also going to have people starting to specialize back thousands of years ago to, like, not hunt and, like, look up. So you'd have people, shamans, whose job it was to sort of look around and say, all right, what is this natural world we're in and how can we be in it more effectively? And those were the people who started looking up and what did they look at first? The sun and the moon. And so the first way that the human race contextualized itself to the environment of the solar system that eventually led to where we are today, where we've been everywhere. We're taking pictures of, you know, far off universes. We're in space.

We're crazy. But it started with just looking up at the sun over there and the moon over there, and then recognizing that there were patterns being played out. and then one shaman would live their 35 year lifespan and teach what they learned to the next generation and over and over and over again then we have civilization with mythologies and storylines and a way of creating a calendar that came from the movement of the sun and the moon you know The sun becomes part of seasonality and farming. I mean, it's just all about the sun and the moon and human beings looking up. Right, yeah.

So why would we stop looking up at the sun and the moon for the cycles and tides that shift our insides? And as a woman, you certainly have the embodied experience of the connection to the moon that's very direct and undeniable, that men experience too, but they don't have the sensitivity, generally speaking, to be in touch with it. But it's all about us living in context with the energy that's holding us. Absolutely. And why would we think that if the moon can actually change the tides of the ocean that it wouldn't affect us

one of the things i think that's happened with a modern world is we've gotten so sort of um separated from the earth yeah um and and so we don't even live on her anymore. We live on top of rubber-soled shoes that over wood and steel. That's over concrete. That's over sewer systems. That's over. That's over. That's over, right? We're so far from our feet in the ground because I think it's even more important to find ways to tether back.

For sure. And I am a person that's always looking up. So Eclipse this year i can you imagine what those thought as when that would happen they must have you imagine yes well they all thought that the world was gonna end right or was ending yeah so of course why and how eclipses became sort of grabbed by our human perspective as so transformational because we are really sort of going through a little mini death rebirth when the shadow passes and and so looking up and feeling like we're in doomsday and we're dying is an archetypal thing that is in fact happening

with every eclipse every time we go to sleep we we die. And every time we wake up, we're reborn. Our whole existence is about deaths and rebirths. And the system passing through the shadow of an eclipse is like a death, rebirth, reset moment. It's not that different than going to sleep, having REM cycle and dream processing, waking up integrated more than you were on a Wednesday from Tuesday. Right. The eclipse does the same kind of thing. It turns the computer off and on again, so it functions better. Right. And probably collectively, the energy, that's because it's noticed, because there's this

awareness. Yes. Probably, and it really heightens the- Well, that would be how the world of astrology would sort of declare the power of the eclipses as collective. Right now, you could say, well, how could that be? I can't see it in South America, only in North America. It's like, but where you see it is astronomy. Astrology is the archetypal interpretation of astronomy. So in the world of astronomy, it counts where the eclipse is visible

because that's what astronomy is measuring. But in the world of astrology, an eclipse is an eclipse is an eclipse is an eclipse. And the nodes of the moon in astrology, these are these vectors of energy that shoot out from the orbit of the moon crossing the path of the Earth's orbit. So these are the nodes of the moon are not abstract ideas. They're physics generated properties of moving bodies through space.

And so it's the angle of these nodes that we pass through that creates the eclipse. In other words, the shadow that we pass through is always there. If you were bird's eye viewing the solar system, the light, bright sunshine would be flowing out in all directions. And you'd see it passing the earth and the moon and putting a shadow out behind it because it's a blockage to the light what happens in an eclipse is we just pass through the shadow we do we do the whole thing the earth moon system passes through the shadow every six months and that is as if we were a computer that you turn off and on again. It's collective. It's happening to everybody. The reason I was pointing out the nodes of the moon

is because those energetics that are shooting in one direction forward, north node, and then opposite south node, the north is the future, the south is the the past when those two points land in your birth chart because you've taken your first breath on a tuesday those nodes become the representation of your individual discounts individual karmic entry into this life south node d Dharmic future destiny, why you came. North node. So now do you see I'm describing these nodes that in one perspective that's collective is generating an eclipse that the whole earth and moon is experiencing every six months,

no matter where you can see it. And this other thing that shows up in every human being's birth chart, connected to the same energy, but in now the chart, it represents your individual karmic entrance and dharmic purpose. Wow. that is both collective and individual, that's driven by the same physics structure of these nodes, that in the cosmos creates an on-off switch every six months, resetting the whole system, but also speaks to everybody's individual dharma in their life. That's why, hopefully I've described this well enough to have you say,

ah, that's why eclipses are collective. You're a great teacher, Michael. Oh, thank you. Yeah, I think, you know, I even had someone come on just talking about nodes and I don't think I got any of it. I just got all of that. Ah, I'm so glad.

Maybe it's been a built up of information. I love teaching and the truth is, I think I could have had a satisfying life teaching anything. I wanted to be a spiritual teacher because the insides of me and the spiritual possibilities of what jazzed me the most in this embodiment. But teacher with a capital T is also the name of the guide that works with me in the woo-woo language of how do I teach? Well, I teach because there's this enormous energy that's not embodied in my body, but carries wisdom through me. And when I'm teaching,

even now in this casual conversation, all of this animation that you see in my body is me connecting to teacher. And it's this huge energy, which is actually fortunate because I can channel that energy, even when I'm in bad shape. Right. And I'm, I'm, I'm in a year of long COVID. So I have, I have fatigue. I have a, there's an autoimmune syndrome that COVID amplified in my experience. I have show grins. It's one of the fatigue. Fatigue is one of the symptoms. And a year ago I was having mild fatigue from show grins and mild dryness. It's a dry eye, dry mouth syndrome.

And now it's much harder. Like it's like COVID amplified it up. And so I'm in a bona fide long COVID experience. And yet I can still, I mean, some days I have to take the day off and rest. About once every 10 days, I can't do my sessions and I reschedule. And I'm good at that. I can do it without too much guilt. But what I know is, is that as long as I can get myself to this chair I'm sitting in, the energy of teaching or doing a session or talking to you lights me up, comes through me, and then it's done and I'm tired. But I can do it because

it's something that's like a channeling experience. Oh, you know what? You're saying that. And I'm relating it to how I feel like when I start to talk about my ancestry, something happens. Something happens. And I'm just like so passionate and I have all this energy and I'm flowing with this wisdom. Right, right. What I love about why I love that you shared that because the experience I've

just described for myself, it's not special. I mean, I can speak of it in the specificity of how I experience it. And that might sound special. Michael has a guy named teacher, but it's the experience I have is human. It's universal. And you just described yours. And I'm sitting here going, I'm certain that when you do that,

it's because you're working with the ancestors. They're coming through. Speaking through you, lighting you up, because that's how it works. No kidding. Hello. Of course. It's almost logical. And you just totally connected that for me.

And I'm absolutely sure that is true, that that's coming through for me so whatever is coming through for you obviously has a passion for the stars you know and has the knowledge and helps you with the words and the way to express it so that we could receive it because the way that you do it is so effortless thank you thank you you know when i learned astrology it didn't feel like I was learning something new. It felt like I was remembering something that was already internal. And how that worked was I had this like two year period where I was sort of in between like career stuff. I was no longer in the corporate entertainment industry. My last job was at Playboy.

I was the vice president of development for Playboy, for crying out loud. So I was selling something else for those years. I got laid off in 1999 and I was already in grad school. So I was already reinventing myself to have a second half of my life that would be very different. So I wasn't worried about leaving the entertainment industry. I had a job in the mental health field that I really loved working in a house with adult mentally ill patients transitioning from being 51 50 and put in the hospital before sort of being placed in. I loved that job, but I couldn't, I couldn't live on the income of that job. And I was developing a television show for the SyFy network called The Dream Team with Annabelle and Michael. And while that show was made, we made 65 shows. It premiered in 2003. It was promptly canceled before they that led to this dark night of the soul that was the making of me.

So that actually has a happy ending. But it took about two years to develop that show. And, you know, just with testing and finding co-hosts and getting a green light for a pilot and making, I mean, it's two years. Well, I couldn't work. I had lots of money and stock options that I was living on. It then had to go bankrupt after the show was canceled. But for two years, I supported myself, went through the process of developing the show, and I spent almost every other waking moment studying astrology obsessively. And every time I learned something new, I never forgot it. I didn't have to be reminded of something. Every new principle, every new idea, it just had a structure inside of me that was already ready to receive the little pieces of the data. And I've never had any experience like it, except a little bit like when I learned to play the piano, I was good at the piano before I ever had a lesson. And so learning to read music

was easy for me and more like remembering something. You know, the woo woo part of me would say past life, but the scientist in me just says, I can't really say that with a straight face. Half a straight face. I'm half scientist. I mean, 50, 50. You know, I feel like I can totally relate. I say this all the time. And so I love when I hear other people speak of this because I have real tangible experiences, many through my dreams. So I thought, Shana didn't know this information. So where did it come from? And a lot of times it's like some Rosicrucian stuff or something Gnostic or beyond. And I'm just like. See, but this is what Jung taught us about the power of the collective unconscious

was he went all over the world to find that people in Africa were dreaming the same themes as people in Switzerland. And he was the first thinker, he was more philosopher than psychologist in some ways, was the first person who introduced the idea that that collective place through which we are all connected, that we visit in dreams, or at least get close to in dreams, has all of the information and wisdom that exists, including from disciplines and doctrines that you would have no connection to

in your waking life at all. But in the collective, we have access to everything. And that's also another air quotes, real thing. Yeah, but it is. It's all the information is right here in the collective. So it's just a matter of being aware. That's what it is. It is being aware. In fact, when people start to see synchronicities, they usually increase immediately. And of course, the easiest way to do this is with numbers, right? You see times and numbers and angel numbers. But the fact is synchronicities like you just described are much juicier and are constant. Constant. Like 15 years ago i stumbled upon a group in los angeles that gathered once a month to talk about the big synchronicities it was actually kind of sweet

and lovely like it was just a bunch of consciously curious people to panga canyon and you know it's like a real earthy crunchy section of of los Angeles County. And I went a couple of times and it was really fun and lovely and juicy. I don't think you could do, I could not go to an event like that anymore because the synchronicities are constant. They're not infrequent enough to have them be remarkable. Right. I learned this the most was hiking with friends. I have a group of childhood friends that I'm blessed to still be in

connection with 50 years later, really remarkable. Somehow we are all New Yorkers and we all wound up in LA and we hike every Saturday and this place called Fryman Canyon in Los Angeles. And we've been doing this for 20 years. Before that we used to get together and sing every week. So I started to notice every Saturday, at least once, at least once this would happen, where the conversation that we were having as a group would have filtered words from conversations of people walking the other way. So we'd be talking about scented candles and you'd hear the word, I lit a candle.

Right. You know, we'd be talking about, I try to get that, you know, you get the point, but it would happen Shana every week, not sporadically. Always. Always happening. And I was keeping a watch for this as I often do in life to be, you know, sort of curious. And yeah, that was where I was like, oh, this is remarkable. And so, you know, when Jung sort of created this idea of synchronicity, the story is, it's a fun little story that he's sitting in his consulting room talking with the patient about a dream of a scarab beetle. And they're hearing this rapping noise at the window and a scarab beetle flies in to the office in Switzerland while they're talking about a dream.

He was like, oh, that's a thing. And he started to look for them in his life. Another very famous synchronicity story is from this very powerful, like 24 hour conversation between Jung and Freud. By the way, they were all coke addicts. Oh, I'm sure. Probably. Yeah. No. Well, first of all, cocaine was a medicine and it was discovered in those years in the late 1800s. And so as a medical doctor, Freud was like, this is a magic elixir. And he's just poking up on the magic elixir.

We could stay up all night and talk about this. Exactly. So you know what that was. We're partying all night talking shit. So the story now, the divide that came like this was think about it. This was like the sort of point is of psychology of crazy, like the Freud, this leading new voice and his heir apparent. Jung was going to be his his follower. He was the next generation. Jung thought, oh, my God, I found my mentor.

Yes, I'll come to Vienna. Yes, I'll sit and do coke with you and talk all night. So it was a very auspicious meeting that turned disastrous within a year and they never spoke again. But part of the rift showed up that night. So they're in this coke addled conversation about life and consciousness consciousness and there's a loud crack like really loud the kind of crack that might happen if something very thick and big and wooden was changing shape from the temperature change okay like right you know how old houses they crack and they move so it was like that but big they crack and they move. So it was like that, but big and amplified. And they were like, whoa, that was something.

And Jung said to Freud, that was not random. That was an experience of energy that's being generated by our connection. And it's going to happen again and i my my remembering of reading this in bear's biography was is that freud was dismissive yeah and it happened again so this is another synchronicity piece so what what jung was creating in both of these moments was a recognition that we are but a filament of perception of something much, much greater that we will never be able to perceive because most of our experience is unconscious. awareness is so bright. And so by being in these experiences and codifying what he thought was happening, it was the first moment in human history that a scientist was saying there's a mystical thing happening in the unconscious. And Freud wasn't interested in the holistic, mystical piece of it. So they separated out and jung created union psychology and the depth psychology

tradition that followed him and freud's contribution is epic he's not largely as as irrelevant these days but we still follow the same model of the unconscious that he created right in fact there's a thing about his model that i wish we had more, the id. There was the ego and the unconscious and the id with Freud, I-D. And the id is the place of chaos and violence and there's this just chaotic place and Jung didn't have a place for that because he was more holistic.

There's an archetype for it. In Jungian astrology, that difficulty and chaos and murderous stuff and dark stuff is the shadow. The shadow is an archetype that lives in us, that we each have an archetypal energy where all the things we don't like and wish to shove down into our basement are constellated. We call that the shadow. I like Freud's version of the id better because it's just bigger and greater and matches more, I i think sometimes what it feels like to be thrown into that place yeah but really jung is our mascot in anything that's

modern and dreamy everything and combining a spiritual practice with psychological investigation around every single corner i go you know because i kind of live by my experiences. I'm like you just observing and keeping track. My kids will say, gosh, mom, there's been a lot of synchronicities right now. I'm like, yes. And then someone else will be like, I had so many synchronicities. So then I start to say, well, what's, what's, why is everyone having synchronicity right now. Let me look up and see what the red robe astrologer, Dr. Michael Lennox has going on for our forecasts. Is this a thing where, you know, I mean, just like how I am affected sometimes by the moons, by the sun. Also, it feels sometimes the veil is thinner than other times. Is it because of what's going on upstairs? Well, certainly in my world, it is because I'm looking at it and there is always a correlation

between what the astrology is saying and what the world is doing. When I'm in a session, I call it looking for the match. I can read astrology so fast and deftly that I can look at someone's chart and the transits that they're in and tell the energetic story. But it's just an energetic and sensation story. I'm not psychic. I don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going to happen. I don't know whether your new business is going to fail or thrive, but I do fundamentally read the story. And then what I'm looking to do in a 45 minute session in some ways is to get my story and your story to match. So that then we can talk about what's to come from a place where my understanding of the story is matching your story as you're playing it out. And then I can say, well, in June, blah, blah, blah.

And that'll support this or in July, blah, blah, blah. and that'll support this, or in July, blah, blah, blah, and that won't support it, so do June and rest in July. That's sort of a sense of loosely what I'm looking for in a session. Well, the same thing is happening with the stories on Red Robe Astrology and the storyline out there. There was a day not too long ago, I don't talk about politics and astrology as a rule, but I'm going to break that rule right now. There was a day when Mercury, communication, words and messages, and Uranus, the sudden awakener and the higher octave of the mind, came together by conjunction, which they'll do about every 90 days or so. And that would have been a day where downloads, insights, and the possibility of synchronicities lining up. And it was also the day that there was a big verdict in the United States at a very high-profile trial.

So is it that interesting that at a synchronistic moment of astrology saying, mind on lightning flash, sudden unexpected, anything can happen and probably will. We had an event out there with a piece of news that was sudden and vibrant and captivating to everybody. And that's a direct sort of synchronistic alignment with a small planet and a large planet that's about communication coming together to create an electrifying moment of communication. And you can see a collective event. experience of mind connecting to higher stuff, whether it was a day of anxiety, because that's a transit that can produce anxiety or a day where you get an inspired download of something. I got both. I was very anxious that day and had a big plum that came out of my Jack Horner's pie

from doing some unconscious work. That was the day I got delivered the aha. And then I put a story out on my Instagram about anxiety and this transit. And I was inundated with yes, me too. Yes, me too. Yes, me too. Yes, me too. So this is another sort of way of saying that when you're paying attention to the synchronicities, they line up undeniably and astrology does that too. That lining up of an event in the world and an astrology that reflects it is kind of like a synchronicity.

Well, and have we created Mercury retrograde to really truly be a thing? I can always just like anything else. Is it Mercury retrograde? Oh, of course it is. Nothing's working. I'm like, but did we collectively,

kind of like Carl Jung did that night, said there will be another sound? Listen. Yeah. Did we create this? It's a fascinating question because as a half scientist, half mystic, when you ask, did we create this?

My mystical side wants to go, well, of, did we create this? My mystical side was, wants to go, well, of course we did. And then my scientific side says, well, wait a minute. It's the laws of physics, not mysticism. Physical laws create the illusion of retrograde. Maybe we amplified it. Well, I think what we did with it is that we reflected it with a fascinating human mind experience that is an accurate reflection of it. There you go. Education breaks down because the part of us that's supposed to be navigating and narrating our experience, our mind tells us where to go. Our mind tells us to look both ways before we cross the street. The mind tells us to put on a sweater.

It got cold out. Well, if the mind is turned within in a process, then we are bumping into the furniture because we're not looking where we're going. We're looking inward. So what we created out of a laws of physics experience was an opportunity to go collectively into the inner landscape to shift and change patterns of perception because mercury rules perception and we created that and because we're doing this inward investigating thing there's a cost what does it cost us two and a half weeks of not being able to see where we're going very effectively. But, you know, all the astrologers that are worth their salt that I know are out there teaching people how to use Mercury retrograde cycles for their benefit and not just

to complain about three, you know, two and a half weeks when things don't go as well. That's so important, I think, because I was just about to say, can we create a collective piece then? Ah, now you're talking, because now we're talking about what the promise of the age of Aquarius is. So Aquarius, the archetype, is known as the water bearer, which often makes people think he's a waterside. Even talked about in the Bible. Yes, that's right. Absolutely. So the idea of Aquarius' origin story is a hero journey. He is the hero. He is in the community and knows that something is missing. That's the hero. The hero must feel the call to find the missing thing. And it needs to support the community when he

brings it back. You know, Jason gets the golden fleece and brings it back and all is well. I may not be remembering that story accurately, but the point is the hero goes to find something. And so Aquarius goes to find something, finds water, brings water back to the community, which allows life to occur. So in the archetype of Aquarius, then we have intuition. He's the one who intuits that something's missing. We have the quality of risk taking, outlier, out of the box thinking, because it's the energy that says, I'll do the thing that no one else is doing. I see what no one else is seeing, right? So these are Aquarius consciences. We also associate Aquarius with service to the community,

because he served the community. The opposite side of Aquarius is Leo, where we serve only ourselves. But the value of that opposition is when everybody knows, this is what's important about peace, honey, when everybody knows what their gifts are and is sharing them willingly, Leo, we can have peace for humanity because then everybody in community is aligned with serving the community. So we're in a moment right now where the world is falling apart. There's no missing that. And in the next two years,

you've got big outer planets, all changing signs. Pluto's doing it now. So Pluto's leaving Capricorn and entering Aquarius last year and this year. That's the beginning in some ways of the generation that leads its way into the age of Aquarius. Everybody born now for

the next 20 years will be the Aquarius generation because they will be born with Pluto, the planet of power and authority and gravitas and the underworld in the sign of Aquarius, which is about serving the community. So in some ways, the next 20 years are crucial with will we survive and create community? Will we survive global warming and create community that can live on the earth as things change over the next two decades, Pluto and Aquarius? Will we survive the technology changes that Aquarius is representing that are going crazy, AI, Pluto in Aquarius? Right. So we are moving into a 20-year period that is more crucial for the planet than perhaps anything in history. And right here, right now, 25 and 26, 24 and 3 is where Pluto moves into the new sign.

And the next year, Neptune and Uranus will do the same. So over the two years of 25 and 26, you have Pluto, the planet of slow change. 60 degrees later, you're going to have Neptune, the planet of spirit, religiosity, spiritual commitment, religious commitment. I got to say both spiritual religious because Neptune moving into Aries is going to fire everybody up, the peace activists and the people who are armed and ready to fight for a different America. So that's rich and ripe over the next two years. And then Uranus, the planet of fast change, revolutionary change, will move into the air sign of Gemini shortly after Neptune leaves Pisces and enters Aries. So at the end of 25 and into 26, you have something called a grand sextile, three

planets in 60 degree relationships to each other. 60 degrees is an angle of productivity. When you put two energies together in 60 degrees, we get big things. But it's slow change, fast change, lit by a fire of religiosity and spiritual thrust. We are going to see enormous changes on the planet, especially, I think, well, I was going to say especially in the United States, but there's war everywhere over the next couple of years. Now, that may be scary to hear. I can imagine someone listening to this, looking at the landscape and going, holy shit, that terrifies me. And it's like, I get that.

Change is scary. But it is what it is. So it's like you can either be head in the sand and not terrified or head up, participating, a little scared, but looking for how you serve. For the people that are going to hear my message over the next two years, it's not likely to be the religiosity folks ready to sort of fight for their beliefs, but for those who are activated, who want to see social progress and change, that energy will amplify that as well. So I'm not sure how we got here in terms of question. Oh, it was peace.

That's right. So I'll wrap it up by saying the promise of the age of Aquarius is a harmonious global community where everyone is cared for. That's the promise of the future. We have to get through. Did we ruin the planet enough that we can live on it? What do we have to do to change to live on it? Because we are.

I'm going to be dead, but the rest of y'all will be around for a couple of decades while people are going to have to move around the planet just because of climate change. And we have to get through the current moment of great war on the planet because it's ubiquitous and scary but i believe in resilience i believe in the human race's capacity to move through these things and most importantly i believe in the age of aquarius but i know i want to sing it that's my baby right i love that song the age of Aquarius. Well, but it is a promise and it is very specific. Peace for humanity at last.

And I, you know, when I was a younger man, you heard a lot of spiritual people say the world needs us. That's why you incarnated at this time. It's a tough time for the planet. If you're here now, you incarnated to help. And I used to roll my eyes so bad at that. But now? I had headaches. But now it's like, oh, no, I was brought here now.

Because this is the moment I was brought here. I wasn't brought here for what I was doing in my 30s, 40s, and 50s. I was brought here for now. I don't even really know what I'm doing. I'm just saying what I say in a public way and trust me. Connecting with that teacher. Come on in teacher. I get people, you know, it's not uncommon these days for people to be like, if you have a platform, you need to be talking about things. It's like, sorry, you're following the wrong guy. I'm not going to talk about Gaza. I'm not going to talk about you. Right. Great. I'm not going to talk about these things because I use astrology to contextualize my personal journey so that I can be a better server to the world.

Yes. That's what I want you to follow me for. If that speaks to you, I'm the right astrologer for you. If you want to know why Chris Rock, you know, got slapped by Will Smith by looking at their chart, I am not the astrologer for you. No, no. And I like what you said too, when you were talking about the Leo and Aquarius, how, you know, the journey does start with you. You know, the healing has to start within first, if you want to think of it that way. And collectively, this has to happen. Even when it comes to America, America needs to heal first before it starts trying to heal all the other countries around it. That's true.

That's one of the challenges. Same with us individually. And I love that you said that. I would even say that that's what is happening, not that that's what has to happen. Because if we say it has to happen, then we look at this and say, well, it's not happening yet. I mean, my ancestors are speaking for me. So that is what is actually happening.

America is a little bit like a Gordian knot, which is that myth of the tangled web of things that alexander fixed by cutting it and i think we're in a gordian knot place in a lot of of these conflicts around the world not just america we're in this place where there is no untying the knot that we're in and so that does mean big scary unknowable revolutionary kind of changes that I think might be brewing. And that's terrifying. Well, I think what else is terrifying is that the genre, I look at Gen Z and I see that they are very different.

They see the world from a different perspective than I do. I'm Gen X. So I see that they're the first of their kind. And so they haven't figured it out quite yet. Well, it's up to them to reinvent, right? It's like, yeah, they are the generation that will be doing the reinventing. Yeah. Are doing the reinventing.

They're just like blank slate, though. It's like throwing someone in a job and saying, figure out how to do it. We don't we don't know how to build it. You figure it out. We do. Because I think it needs something brand new, which is, by i agree their hallmark of aquarius yeah aquarius says oh no no no everything you've done no not gonna work but rand reset that's right reset i got it i love that and i feel like you probably i and i and i was thinking about this when you're talking like in all the different

times where you're like wow the stars really aligned with that are you just shocked to see how many things have been predicted and how many things are kind of written in the stars already and maybe we're just in cycles never shot not no always delighted um always delighted even when it's reflecting something that i wish hadn't happened right true part and part of what i mean by that is is that if i align myself with astrology is true like i don't like if someone says do you believe in astrology i'd be like like, well, no, I know astrology. Like, I know this to be true. It's unshakable.

It's the alignment, right? And then it's like this validation, I would feel. Oh, yes, yes, yes. The validation. Like, I'll just give a quick example. Like, when the platform in the Gulf of Mexico exploded, Uvalde, I think, was the name of the platform. Do you remember that? It was a bunch of years ago. The BP Oil? Yes. Uvalde, I think, was the name of the platform. Do you remember that?

It was a bunch of years ago. The BP oil? Yes. Yeah, BP oil. Yeah, I'm from Louisiana, from New Orleans. Okay, so terrible event on the planet, but it happened the week that Uranus moved into Aries. Uranus, sudden unexpected electrifying changes. So you weren't surprised.

Right, and combustible, Aries. And there was a fire coming suddenly and unexpectedly at a moment when the planet said there should be explosion of something, right? And so that becomes one moment of thousands and thousands of moments where I was like, oh, it's undeniable. When I say I'm half scientist, like in some ways, I really mean that I have a doctorate in psychology, which means I conducted research. I published that research. My research is published in the academic literature. So I am, in fact, a kind of a scientist. And so the scientist part of me needs proof but anecdotal undeniable evidence in my perceptions might be thought of as

scientifically unsound study itself but i've been doing it for 30 years and the sample size of experiences is in the multiple thousands so no it's not verifiable because I'm just a guy saying what is so, and I could be lying and making it all up. But the evidence shows. Inside of my own perceptions, I'm here to tell you, I've had 17,652 amazing synchronistic moments over the last years to the point where that's good enough for the scientist in me

to trust this drug. Well, and I know many other very amazing intelligent people like yourself one that keeps coming to mind is susan miller who do you know who i'm talking about susan she changed the world she's she to me susan miller is one of the people who busted through the sort of low level bullshit astrology that people think is astrology because they've had people take her seriously yes susan miller was the first person whose books were ubiquitous she was well widely read and i think she changed a lot of minds about using astrology oh i you know i i just loved her so very much. And I receive you both very, very well. Thank you.

And you're so freaking fun, by the way. How you deliver it. So fun. And my mom has been begging me. She's never had an astrology reading. I don't know if you do them, but I would love to buy her an astrology reading with you. I do.

But yes, I do. I do readings. They are the lion's blood of my business. you do them but i would love to buy her an astrology reading with you i do but yes i do i do readings they are the lion's blood of my business i'm booked out fairly far in advance it takes about four or five months to get on my schedule but yeah i do yeah i love i love that um they are an enormous amount of energy so this covid fatigue thing has made them like i can't do more than three a day does the um solar flares and the solar storms, the CMEs, does all that affect your energy? Because I must say that I was quite ill when they were happening, when they were hitting us. And I was very concerned because I was mad because I feel like I was so aware. And then what I did is I went and sat with the sun and watched the sunset and tried tried to align my energy to it good good good

well that's actually a bro i think that's a brilliant way to meet it right it's like i was trying to make peace with it is coming here and it's like you what you did is a gorgeous sort of example of radical acceptance okay right it's like you went someplace and said all right i accept this i will sit in the sun and experience and receive it even if I don't like what it's bringing energetically or feeling wise, which is very different than trying to make it go away.

Well, I felt that the resistance was actually making it worse for me. I could feel it. It will be. I will tell you this, that before this experience of the Sjogren's increasing and the fatigue that I have been in

doggedly for the last 12 months, I was much more aware and sensitive to geomagnetic storms. But now I'm sort of, my perception is just driven by that, like, every day, my energy is just low. So I did not feel it as acutely because I was already in a heightened state of extra energy, you know, challenges. But I, you know, I will tell you that, that in the past, before this sort of fatigue experience I'm having, every time I felt squirrely and I went to check, just like you, it was like, sure enough, the day before it was a geomagnetic storm sending some shit our way. And it's like, I feel it. It's a buzzy kind of fatigue me too yeah which is why i can't feel it now entire body was asleep and i couldn't think i

mean my house was a disaster i had all kinds of things deadlines couldn't get any of them done i was like screw it but you know i had a long haul covid symptom that lasted almost two years and it did finally go away and i was so freaking freaking thankful. So glad to hear you say that. Oh, no research that said 10 months was a standard length for certain things to abate. And indeed, after 10 months, I popped up to an area of slightly better experience, the energy, but I love hearing anybody say to me that something eventually did go away because I'm hopeful. I mean, I thought I anybody say to me that something eventually did go away. Cause I'm hopeful. I mean, I thought I was going to have it forever. I thought I was like, this is crazy. So when it finally went away and I guess I realized it when I was like, Oh my gosh, I haven't

had any issues whatsoever. Mine was, I had my, the bottom of my stomach was like paralyzed. I couldn't even drink water. It would just, I've heard I've heard that yeah it was terrible and so you know how what I would do is I would chant and get and stimulate my vagus nerve and then I actually would feel it open and drop it was insane I had to do it every month I have found um that the biggest thing that has helped me with both the anxiety that I have from post-COVID and the fatigue is sound. Sound. You know, sound. Vibration.

I make a lot of sound. Well, it's back to where we started. Body sensitivity to energy. Energy flows, but it can also slow down and get stuck. Sound is vibration that we make from the inside out. And my experience is by, you know, whether it's oming in a sort of focused way or just shouting out a big YARP to like try to regulate myself from stuck energy. I think breath and prayer and sound and mind are all tools that we need more than ever.

Well, I'll send you my prayers to hopefully quick recovery. Tell everybody really quick, again, where they can find you because i want everyone to go watch your red robe especially absolutely well michaellenix.com is the website m-i-c-h-a-e-l-l-e-n-n-o-x a lot of people spell michael wrong so that's where you can find me everywhere i do do my red robe astrology videos on facebook on instagram on tikt, and on YouTube. And all of those social media places you can find at michaellenix.com. My classes, my self-investigation classes, and my astrology school books that I've written on dreams and dream interpretation. It's all there, michaellenix.com. Much love. I appreciate you so much coming back on. You're so much fun.

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