Sense of Soul - The Gifts of Near Death Experience

Episode Date: September 14, 2020

Today’s episode is jaw dropping! We have a truly amazing soul that joined us!! Author David Ditchfield who in 2006 was literally dragged under a speeding train in a freak accident.  As the surgeons fought to save him, he had a profound near-death experience, which lead to a spiritual awakening and astonishing new abilities. David suddenly had talents he’d never had before!! He started painting what he’d saw in his NDE, and compose music which lead to him composing symphonies!!  This is a truly unbelievable and miraculous story!! Please check out David’s website where you can purchase his amazing book, see his paintings and listen to his beautiful symphony! www.shineonthestory.com Let David know you loved his story, RATE, COMMENT & SUBSCRIBE!  Also check out www.mysenseofsoul.com  

Welcome to the Sense of Soul podcast. We are your hosts, Shanna and Mandy. Grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. It's time to awaken. Today on Sense of Soul, we have David Ditchfield. David was dragged under a speeding train in a freak accident in 2006. As the surgeons fought to save him, he had a profound near-death experience. When he woke up from the hospital, he was shocked to find that he had come back to Earth with some new, amazing abilities. And so he has written a book called Shine On that talks about his near-death experience. And being a NDE-er myself, I am super, super excited to have David on today welcome thanks for having me along

thanks for being here David when you came across the email I was like literally jumping up and down I was so excited because us near-death experiencers are kind of our own category of people yeah yeah exactly I can remember that one of the very first gifts i got after my near-death experience was a book called proof there's heaven it's about a neurosurgeon he had a near-death experience but it inspired me to write mine out because i didn't want to forget it is that what inspired you to write your book i felt like that yeah when i was lying in hospital and i just come around from my first lot of uh eight hour operation I'd also just had a near-death experience prior to that in the

emergency department of the hospital and so I was really scared I was going to forget everything and so what I decided was I'm dyslexic so I thought I'd never be able to write a book so I figured the first thing I'm going to do is paint. And I've never done any paintings before either, but I thought I'm going to do that. So I decided that's what I would do. So I started painting what I'd seen in the afterlife on huge canvases. That's what I thought. It's got to be like the big Renaissance paintings that you see in Rome,

in the Vatican, which hang all over the ceilings and walls, you know. So it's a big dramatic thing that happens. And I thought it's got to be told in the best possible way so yeah so I started off by painting I feel that way sometimes when I can't really express in words something I'm like well I can't I don't know how to say it but I could draw it I feel that way sometimes but I wanted to ask you David who were you before? Who was I before? Yeah I was dyslexic so I failed most of my academics at school so I left without any qualifications really. I'd moved to London I was basically picking up manual labouring work most of the time so it was it was very much sort of day-to-day there was no sort of like security in my finances you know it was it's a very competitive

city as well like all capital cities and so I was hanging out with people who were successful and so I was kind of aspiring to them and wanting to be part of that so life was a struggle right life was tough like it is for a lot of us I know I had no sense or feel of spirituality or any sense of warmth or help with me. So I was very isolated in myself. And I figured that my way of dealing with anything that ever went wrong in my life was just by going for a quick fix, if you like, just to get over it, the nearest thing I could do. And that was usually like going to my local bar and hanging out with friends and just drinking. So what led you to this accident? Can you talk about the accident?

Well, basically, yeah. As I say, I got to the point where I was so down on my luck, I was broke. I remember opening the fridge one day and I looked in the refrigerator and there was just nothing, no food in there, just a bottle of beer. I just thought, is this what it's come to and my sister bless her she said look come and stay with us in the family and they live out in Cambridge in the country so I went there for a couple of weeks just to sort of you know just try and sort of recharge my batteries and I'd met somebody just a couple of weeks prior to that and we connected and we we kept in touch over the phone and so I said why don't't you come and visit for a couple of days? So she did.

So this was somebody called Anna. Anyway, she had to get back to London. So I took her to the rail station. I helped her onto the carriage, you know, with her bags. And I gave her a hug and a kiss to say goodbye. And at that point, I heard the buzzers going for the the doors to close you know so I remember Anna saying come on you better get off I was going yeah yeah I'm going you know one last hug and then as I stepped back the doors closed and then my coat got trapped in the bottom of the you

know it was like a three-quarter length coat and I just couldn't pull it out no there was no way it was going to come out so oh my god yeah so that was it was pretty scary and so i called out for help at the top of my voice but there was no one there there was no guard or anything and um and oh my god she must have been terrified right she's washing this as well she's looking right through the glass doors you know at me and i'm looking at her to say i can't free it you know and i was like hitting the windows of the carriage hoping that a guard might come through there but nobody did then we heard the engines rev up and i remember i looked into anna's eyes and i just saw the look of horror in her face and i thought wow you know this is it

i'm gonna die i just thought because there's no way i'm gonna get free of this and I thought wow you know this is it I'm gonna die I just thought because there's no way I'm gonna get free of this and so the train pulled out the station at terrific pace you know you don't realize just how fast they pull out of stations you know because you don't when you're on one you're just looking at your phone or whatever aren't you you don't really care you know but when you are trapped it's uh it's very frightening the speed accelerates i lost my footing i got dragged along the platform and then i got pulled between the space of the platform edge and the train itself and then down i went visualize the edge of the platform and then the actual yeah then the actual train carriages itself were just were just flying by and i'm still attached to it

so i got sucked into the into that space and I got pulled under and I got thrown in you know under the wheels and I was just tossed around basically from pillar to post and uh it was just um a violent moment to say the very least and were you conscious to a lot of it yeah throughout the whole thing I didn't lose conscious uh at all oh god do you have a lot of ptsd over this yeah i mean i've had an awful lot of therapy to deal with that okay okay good but most certainly yeah i do because i'm so sorry that that happened to you and sadly you know a lot of people have a really awful accident and they're all you know they're all sort of relative to you know you know people say to me oh wow you know i've met people who've come off motorcycles or whatever you know and they say oh there's nothing like yours i said no but it is it's

relative it's it's the the mind and the body should not have to go through these kind of accidents at all it's just too much to deal with you know so but i survived it and by a miracle i survived as well because after the accident itself the the british rail police did a massive inquiry you know they took a year and at the end of their inquiries you know they turned around and said well we finished now but um we're just we've got to tell you that we're all banging our heads together saying there's no way you should have survived we did all our figures and measurements and you should be dead we don't get it you know but something more powerful than any of us uh saved me that day and that's what i was about to find out so what injuries were you left with well i came out

pretty good really considering that i'd got pulled under a speeding train and got thrown between the wheels and stuff the one injury that was life-threatening was my left arm was severed. So I was losing a lot of blood. So by the time I got to the hospital itself, you know, I could tell that they were trying to save my life. And I was very scared still at that point because, and this was a different fear, you know, the fear going into the train that was I'd gone into survival mode if you like you know I was just trying to survive

that but in the hospital it was out of my hands it was like I could hear the doctors frantically sort of shouting out all this science and figures I'm thinking what are they saying what does that mean you know and I knew that the blood loss was was big. My family arrived really quick as well. It was unbelievable how quick they managed to get to the hospital. So it was lovely to see them, and obviously they were in a massive amount of shock, and my mom was in tears. Did you ever at any point have an outer body experience?

Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, that's what came next I was um I suddenly went from from the the actual horror of the accidents and the pain and lying in that hospital to a very peaceful and darkened place and uh but it was like a lovely darkened space you know it was very relaxing and I figured at that point straight away I thought this is it I've died you know I'm uh I've passed on I didn't resist it I didn't I know that some people do I've obviously done a lot of more research into NDEs and some people do resist it and they want to come back because they've got family they want to stay around for but it's not like I wanted to

die at all at that point but I was just so comfortable with where I was that I just wanted to embrace it, you know, at that point. Did you have a choice to come back or stay? No, I didn't have a choice, no. I mean, as my NDE unfolded, there was lots of various elements to it that happened, and there was a lot of knowledge and intuition that was coming through you know telepathy that was coming through while I was there and I just figured that as much as I was quite happy to stay where I was and the more I

was seeing and the more I was taking in it was just beautiful that they decided to send me back so it wasn't my choice but I didn't regret regret that choice either. When I first did come back from it all, it was a shock because all the pain had come rushing straight back through me and all the anxiety was all there again. When your books shine on, you go into great detail about exactly what you saw and experienced. So we don't want to spoil the book for the listeners. But when you say telepathic was that from angels was that god was

that people you'd known that passed away or who were you getting this information from you said they yeah they because initially uh well i was greeted with one guide i call at first which is like my my guardian angel if you like this guide was neither male nor female. So an androgynous being very sort of, it was odd because I felt like I'd known this person throughout the whole of my life and beyond, you know, sometimes if you go to a party or whatever and you just get chatting to someone you've never met before, but you just hit it off. And I don't mean like, you know, like you're attracted to them.

Well, maybe you might be, but, but you know, you just get that connection where you chat and you feel like I've known you before I feel like I've known you for years like that but it was a lot deeper a lot deeper than that so yeah most of the telepathy was coming through that and then two other females that as well that I encountered were there and I didn't know them but they were healing me and there was there was an awful lot of warmth coming from them the one to my right was very much I'd describe as being sort of european i guess with long brown hair and i remember she just had a very plain simple brown dress on and then the girl uh to my left was more asian indian or american indian i'd say yeah i couldn't decipher whether it was

either of one but they were but she was wearing more of a traditional dress as well, which was really lovely. They had their hands kind of going over my body and just their hands were just kind of like healing me and I could feel love coming through their hands. It was like I'd describe it as unconditional love and the energy from their hands was very powerful. Ultimately, in that sphere, sphere myself for example um even though

it was me that was there it felt like it was just my pure essence of my soul that was in that sphere it wasn't my physical being you know and not only my physicalness because i mean when i looked at my body all my injuries were healed there was was nothing wrong with my arm. It was attached again. It wasn't even a scratch. But not only that, I noticed that other things I carried around with me all my life, you know, the layers of feeling guilty and shameful and failure and all those negative energies, they'd all gone. They completely dispersed.

And it's almost like when I was being healed by the female forms that i felt that they weren't really healing my body well they may have been some of it because it had been for a heck of a trauma but i feel that they were healing years of pain i'd got in my soul and they were like taking off the layers if you like and just getting down to that pure essence of my soul so if that's the case those beings of light will be there would be just pure essence of my soul so if that's the case those beings of light will be there will be just pure essence of soul themselves you know so it doesn't matter about sexuality whether they're male or female i guess wow were you in a earthly dimension like did it look like earth around did you see or were you just more focused on your angels the one thing that did have an earthly appearance about it was

that i i've discovered that i was laid on like a huge slate rock it's like a huge medieval altar if you like and it was like very comfortable to lie on which is strange because i'd noticed i was no longer clothed either but and but also i was covered in a blue sort of satin or silk sort of sheet so those were the one things that I noticed that were other than that I realized that I wasn't in a darkened room as it were that I was actually in the universe itself because I saw some amazing sights and some amazing parts of the universe as well I did see you asked me about God as well so i saw god but it wasn't in the form of what i'd always believed that god would look like i.e you know a guy with a beard up in the sky that we see you know paintings or whatever but um or whatever our faith may be you know it's normally in a human kind of form isn't it god

and um but this was actually the tunnel of white light that most people talk about in near-death experiences tunnel that i saw was just so powerful and it was huge and it was just coming towards me and getting closer and closer and it was surrounded by flames that were just slowly rotating around and i just felt in awe of this site because it wasn't at all frightening because as i say i've got no sense of any negative feelings and i was just going wow and i just knew again the telepathy that was coming from that because the energy was just so powerful that i just thought this is it this is the source of all creation this is where it all comes from this is god so yeah interesting because it's uh you know it's as clear as it as if it's just happening

i would describe near-death experiences as being ultra real you know even though it's a different dimension and it's as real as i'm talking to you two guys now that it's a different dimension and the fact that i was scared i was going to forget it was I had enough fear really because I never have and every time I discuss it I'm almost back in that realm on there you know yeah whenever I speak about mine too I just get like over my entire body chills I get very emotional I get almost nervous in my throat we have a lot of similarities in our experiences. You know, I was greeted by five women, angels as well. I saw places that are almost indescribable. Do you find that you have a hard time articulating words that fit what you experienced and saw because they're beyond any words in a dictionary?

Yeah, sometimes I do. I mean, I've been talking about it a fair few times now so each time i do i'm finding that i'm managing to fill those gaps that are hard to put across because it's just really hard to find words that can portray exactly the amount of love you feel yeah yeah it it is actually yeah and like i was talking about the energy that was coming through i described that as a sensation of like every molecule of my body was actually vibrating with this love you know and it's just so powerful and also the love it's a different type of love and i've described it and i still do as being all the different types

of love you've experienced throughout your life whether it's from your mother father your pet cat or your lover or whatever and it's all those different types of love and they're all condensed into that energy that's coming through that's how it felt to me anyhow wow i love that yeah so this part i have to admit I was really jealous about because I did not come back with any special abilities no I did actually I came back with some mediumship but I definitely did not come back with being able to compose music and I'm not artistic at all let's talk about that I absolutely entreat you to this day cannot even write a single note yeah exactly it's interesting because like i said when i did that painting i just knew from day one i thought right i'm gonna do this painting i've never done it before i didn't even think twice about it it's going to

be done and it's the same with the music that came about because i started having spiritual healing um that i found that to be really beneficial when this was like right at the beginning when i was in a just come out of hospital and in those spiritual healing sessions the healers it's just just a very calm atmosphere and they just put their lay their hands on you on their shoulders or whatever you know and they conduct this energy through that they're bringing from either my guides or from their own you know and they're healing me and some of them are clairvoyant and kept getting just small messages afterwards. The one healer in particular, Joy, who was healing me, she kept saying, why am I picking up a violin lying across your chest?

I was going, I have no idea. Then another one would say, Beethoven, Wagner, you know, I said, no idea. Then one of them turned around one week and said, look, they're telling me you're going to write a piece of music about your experience on the other side and i thought okay so um i just couldn't play guitar or anything but i used to try and play guitar three chord wonder you know punk sort of rock or whatever you know and uh but i couldn't do that anymore because my left arm being injured badly and so i got this old synthesizer out the cupboard and I was playing around on that I'm trying to write what I thought would be a three minute pop song you know but it wasn't to be it just wasn't coming and then one day I was just

kind of like I'd literally got a movie on the tv and I just got this synthesizer out and this little chord structure came while I was tampering I thought wow that's nice and all I got was a little cassette recorder so I recorded that little section onto it and I started building it up and up and I thought this sounds like it should be played by an orchestra so again I got the same sense of um why not you know let's do it and uh there's a lot of synchronicity happened in my life as well after the the NDE like i got to know a cello player she used to come up and watch me paint and became friends she said to me one day oh what you've been up to you know and i told her about this piece of music and she laughed i said

oh maybe our orchestra could perform it and i thought yeah that'd be great i spoke to my brother and he said look i've got this software that you can attach to your computer and when you're playing your music on the keyboard on your piano keyboard or whatever it will then convert it into sort of notation and I got to learn all the different instruments and how that would sound you know I'd hear instruments in my head and it would transpose it into those parts so I got it the parts all printed off and I met my friend in the cafe with the conductor from the orchestra and they said yeah we'll do it so it was performed and it was amazing because there's a lot of synchronicity again I

knew I was being helped by the way everything that I do with my paintings and my music it's not all me it's not I've suddenly come back and I'm doing this on my own I'm just what I call channel ideas I get I get ideas coming through and they help me to put those ideas onto a canvas and I'm painting or or music to form and but they also helped bring that concert together. And because I remember the conductor turned around to me and said, oh, would you mind saying a few words to the local press about your piece? I said, yeah, sure. So I spoke to the local press and they remembered me from the accidents and stuff. And they said, oh, yeah, you're the guy who went under the train.

So it ended up going on the front page. I said, this is a great story. So it did. And then the phone didn't stop ringing and suddenly it went on then the BBC came and they wanted to interview me and then the concert sold out two weeks in advance which was uh which was amazing that the orchestra couldn't believe it again this is great you know so I was being helped they were helping me bring that together those people up there you know so well that's what I was going helped. They were helping me bring that together, those people up there.

That's what I was going to ask you. Have you ever connected with your guides and angels that you met there since? Yeah, I do still. I'm not clairvoyant, so I don't actually see them. But I sense their presence and I know that they're there because I feel that I can call upon them. Okay, good. Are you afraid to die? them, you know, and I do. Good. Are you afraid to die?

No, I'm not afraid to die because I've seen what awaits us all and what awaits us is really beautiful. And not only that, more importantly, it's I know I've got the proof now that life continues on, you know, that the soul continues. Yeah, the body stops and switches off and decays. But the soul is too powerful just to suddenly just switch off like a light. So it continues on. And so yeah, so I'm not afraid to die.

So my near death experience kind of sprung me into this insane spiritual awakening. There was no going back. I had some physical symptoms that came with it. I'm just curious, did you, in recovery and years after, find that you had any ringing in your ears? Were your senses heightened? Like, what were some physical things that you went through? Yeah, my senses were definitely heightened. It was interesting when i went when i discovered that spiritualist church i started going to their sort of church meetings each week

and after the end of their meetings they'd have like um a guest medium would just stand up and talk for half an hour and pick people out and get in touch with their loved ones and they're really good you know they're all amateurs but they're fantastic you know and uh and i found that i was being picked out every single week and it became the joke of the church they kind of laughed every time someone would go oh the gentleman over there and uh but i figured at that point it's because i was still so my spiritual energies were still very very enlightened and charged from from the other side where i've been with spiritual healing as well i you know they always tell me when they heal me even now that i'm very open to the energy coming through and so it's great for them as well because the people who are healing me are also we're all going through

it together you know they're the energy's coming through them as well so so there's that element that is very prominent it was hard for me to just know, because I didn't know if it was trauma from being in the ICU. Once I dealt with the trauma and did a lot of EMDR, I found that as I continued through this kind of awakening, spiritual awakening, I still had these symptoms. And so Shanna and I started researching them and she had some as well. And she was going through an awakening also and it was interesting we found online that a lot of people that were kind of awakening to this new spiritual realm and life were having the same ones so that's why i asked okay yeah it's really interesting a lot of so david you said that you weren't clairvoyant, but you paint. So where are you getting the inspiration for your pieces that you paint? Well, some of it is visually what I saw, which is going on to the painting.

But some things go on to the canvas that I just kind of let the brush do its work and things develop. Like, for example, in some of the paintings that I painted from my from my NDE I did those you know right from the start and quite recently new photographs came through from Hubble you know the the space telescope or whatever you call it it takes these photographs from far galaxies and they just come through and this is only two years ago I think it was they came through and people who know me uh family and friends who know my paintings were sending me emails saying have you seen these it's just like your paintings and it actually was so that was pretty spectacular

because i saw that first and i suddenly thought are people going to buy it if i turn around and say this but to have my friends and family turn around and think it as well so so I was being led to paint certain bits of which are as I said I was very much in space I was very much in the universe so so these were images that had come through from this from the Hubble which is very recent so it was again affirmation so but with the music it's the same thing that you know that i wanted the the um the music to be about my i just wanted to give a different dimension a different take i wanted people to try and get what it's like to have a near-death experience and what i experienced on the other side as we talked earlier about sometimes struggling for

words i thought with music people can absorb music and they can get their take on it and they did and it's great because people get back to me now who hear my music because it's on my website so i let i stream it for free and and it's great people getting back and saying wow i picked up blah blah blah this this moment in the second uh you know movement that felt i got this i was going that's exactly it but I didn't I didn't plan it out you know I didn't say right this is going to be the first movement and the second one's going to be like this I just let it all flow and the ideas come through again I knew nothing about I mean I've met classically trained people like conductors of orchestras and stuff like that and

they say to me I wouldn't even attempt to write a symphony. I don't know how you did this. And so it's a mystery, but it's a lovely mystery. What did your recovery look like? Because I know my recovery, I was forced to be mindful and slow down. And I think that had a lot to do with teaching me to be present. And that's where a lot of my awakening came because in my life before that, I was very, very busy all the time. I was a big partier. I was always like on the move. I wasn't comfortable in my own skin. So after my near-death experience, I was literally forced to be mindful because I couldn't lift my arms. I couldn't feed myself. Can you relate? Yeah, I can totally relate with that because one thing I hadn't anticipated, and that was when I'd come back from the near-death experience I was so charged with love and positive energy and I was radiating that out to people if you like

um that I felt great but that was I was in a safe place because I was in hospital and then once I came out of hospital I was recovering in my sister's home so I was in that lovely safe bubble so it was great but as soon as I left and I got my own apartment I suddenly had to take on some legal stuff as well and then I just couldn't deal with it and I kind of had a meltdown to be honest with you I just I just I was just too I wasn't guarded you know I was just wide open I was just this massive sensitive energy of love and then the world isn't like that you know the word as we all know that the world can just come out and just try and pull me straight down to my knees I struggled but thankfully I was still going in and out of hospital you know to

have my dressings changed and what have you and they saw a massive change in me because they've been delighted with my positiveness towards my recovery they couldn't get over it you know I mean my surgeon he just said oh you're my star patient you're incredible you know you you went under the train and look at you yeah suddenly suddenly I I came down but thankfully that they sent me straight into into therapy. It felt like the world was trying to eat me up too so they it was trying to take away what I had experienced they were trying to say oh it was trying to take away what I had experienced. They were trying to say, oh, it was probably just the medications. I started doubting my reality. And then at one point I said, no, I'm not letting the world take away what I just experienced and saw because you get so many skeptics that come in and go, oh, you just created that.

And then there were days where if I did have a bad day, I actually felt guilty because I was like, Mandy, you should be so grateful that you're alive. How dare you, you know, get upset over something so stupid. So I started kind of getting hard on myself sometimes. Did you ever do that? I did do, you know, I just couldn't cope at first. And I was feeling scared. I just thought, am I really going to be able to just kind of come out of this, this positiveness I've been in and actually be able to steer myself through the world. And I thought it was going to be a struggle.

And actually it was a mixture of having therapy, but actually having the spiritual healing and spiritual advice as well, because I also met a spiritual healer who helped me a lot. And she said to me, do you know what? In fact, a lot of them said to me when I was going for spiritual healing, they said that you've got to learn to protect yourself. And I didn't understand what that meant at first, but I do now. But they just said that you're far too open.

So it took a while to deal with. But again, inside, I got a determination not to let it beat me thankfully i didn't have too many hardly anybody really turn around and question what has happened and say oh you know it was a medication the hospital i was in it's like a university hospital and they started doing studies into near-death experiences so they got scientists who were who'd come into the hospital and they were trying to you know sort of um look at it from that angle and so the bbc radio station phoned me up said look would you come on the show and talk about it your experience i said yeah sure i went on that show i don't know if you

had them in the states called drive time shows so they're kind of like very upbeat and everything's kind of hey you know it's going to be a great day you know the sun's shining we're going to keep pumping the music it's all like that you know okay and I just thought oh this is all wrong I thought again I'm too vulnerable they're going to eat me alive so um this guy introduced me so he's going to be David he had a near-death experience you know it was all already doubting it you know he's going to be on after the news and so I thought here we go so I went on and I just started talking about it and this guy went from being this kind of like drive time flash sort of presenter to saying this is amazing and he was like really drawn in by it and I knew from that point that yeah if that guy's gonna stop and listen to what I have to say then

that's that was a good point for me you know so have you ever looked into soul merging or do you know anything about that i don't actually know yeah soul merging so there's been cases where have you ever heard of the uh foreign accent syndrome no i'm terrible i should do more research okay go on. Yeah, there's a really good episode on the network Gaia. There's an episode, and I want to say that it is a lot about past lives, but they also go into what is called soul merging, where sometimes like midlife in somebody's life, all of a sudden they get like this gift. You know, some people get the gift of um kind of like

I did I started sewing like I had never I didn't even know what a sewing machine was in fact I called the little bobbin a bobber for like two years because I was like no that's not a bobber you keep calling it and I was like you know quilting like it probably made like 100 quilts in like two years. You know, I don't know where it came from. But there's also people who have gone under anesthesia, or have had episodes in comas, or have been knocked out, and they wake up, and they have like these new talents and one of they call it soul merging and they have this one that is just incredible kind of reminds me of yours it's called foreign accent syndrome where they wake up and they have an accent that one yeah a specific you know an accent to very specific places it's amazing it's not crazy it's actually very amazing and fascinating yeah it is fantastic yeah it's brilliant do you think that he merged soul merged with Beethoven while he was in his near-death experience

well now but yeah I mean I most certainly do feel that I'm merging with with some of the someone up there who because I I never used to listen to classical music so i mean the only classical music i knew was just from from film scores you know so i'd know pieces that have been used in films but i find myself listening to it more now because i find it really relaxing and uh and it's great and so i've got to know various pieces and i'll hear them i'll put the radio on i go wow that's that sounds like it could be me that yeah to me I don't mean that from an egotistical point of view what I mean is that I've obviously I've obviously channeled from that composer and I think I must find out who it is

and so I kind of get to know various composers and interestingly enough the very first piece that I wrote you know I remember when it was at the first rehearsal and uh the conductor turned around afterwards and he said oh I forget what piece it was I think it was um I think it was Delius I can't remember now but he compared it to a composer he said your work sounds very much like this composer and I said I've never heard of him and he just smiled that's that's that's great because you've never heard of this guy and and I think that you sound like him so he knew that I was giving it straight so he loved it the fact that I'd I'd um you know picked up Debussy that was it he said it sounds a bit like Debussy or your work and I and so now I've heard

more of Debussy well I don't I don't think it actually was also the um people who get like organs from other people yes you know I know someone who got lungs from someone else and his wife tells me that his personality has totally changed for the better thank god yeah but do you feel like it sounds like your personality changed yeah totally, I do think that that's true because, you know, all our organs are all part of, they become part of our souls, you know, and our energy, you know, it's all part of us. It's not, you know, so it's very much, you know, I agree with that one. Because it was interesting actually, because I had a blood transfusion and I found

nothing too drastic but this is quite funny because my friends were laughing at it because I was never really into sports when I was at school but I suddenly found that I was into watching soccer games and my mates were laughing going you, you like soccer

you know and then I started getting into, I was then I started getting into I was also into watching American westerns like old old US movies old westerns and stuff like that and I was really into them and so it was like I thought that's probably the blood transfusion I didn't put that down to the near-death experience because that actually went after a bit so so if you think about it you know that blood transfusion that i had will have kind of you know diluted its way through my system so but so i figured that that yeah that even blood even blood has has uh you know carries elements

of someone's soul wow do you think that there is more than one dimension when you die or do you think we all go to the same space that you were in well i do know what i figured that is that the space that i went to was was almost like if you like a departure lens you know it was like i felt straight away when the beings were there and they were healing me that i was i knew that i was being prepared for something at that stage and i didn't know what so yeah i do believe that i don't just i don't believe that uh you know people just go on to you know one big space and they stay there because as far as millions and millions of souls passing all the time you know not just in human form but animals as well you know and even insects you know everything's got it's going to pass on and move on i believe in reincarnation as well so i believe that you know that basically a lot of

souls do come back and have another life but i also do believe in certain loved ones that do stay with us you know that stay with their families you know that their sole purpose is to um be in that um sphere and be close to us you know to watch over us i think that they're all part of our guidance as well through life do you remember like at the point when you went back into your body yeah i remember it well it was like a crash landing you know it was like it was like a job struck me most actually was the um was the overload the overkill of sound and vision you know the light was just like it was bright but it was just like screaming in my eyes and then the sound was just like shrilling in my ears it's gone oh no you know yeah that's um well i was i was i didn't feel

any regret i didn't feel oh no you know i just thought i was more charged with the positive energy and i thought wow that was brilliant yeah and you know i just couldn't wait to tell people that's amazing i know when after mine my my hearing was very heightened my vibration was so high and it's still different I liked different music the music I liked before I no longer liked it actually felt unsettling in my soul when I listened to it so my my taste in music changed a lot of things that I liked before I didn't like anymore and I was more sensitive in crowds and around groups of people that's true yeah that's one yeah absolutely bang on I'm the same with that I couldn't get enough knowledge

I wanted to read books and well listen to books I wanted to do have soulful conversations with people a lot of a lot of things shifted yeah for me too I'm exactly the same like things like tv like irrelevant tv and negative tv you know soap dramas that were all based on you know negative stuff i just couldn't watch and but not only that i just find that i have the tv on even now still i have it on really low on volume and people really notice it they go can we turn it up you know and i'll go if we must you know so it's kind of like so i just can't stand overload of to me it all seems like mad it's just like madness to have so much noise do you feel that you then became an empath then afterwards and you found that you were not before say that again sorry do you feel like you became like an empath you know someone who

can absorb the energy and is very heightened to senses and really doesn't have a choice so protection then becomes have you ever heard that term before no i haven't heard it before that's why i was gonna say oh yeah so actually yeah i was so so like relieved when i was i was like oh my god there's there's a name for what i am so it's just a very highly sensitive person but like on another level like on a spiritual level like yeah yeah before i used to love partying i used to love going out to bars and just being noise was great for me and and I just wanted it it kind of filled the void if you like anything that was going wrong in my life anything like that was great but now it's quite the opposite that um I love socializing with people of course but um

I get to the stage where it's it can be just too much and I just think I really don't feel comfortable being here anymore because it's just it's so loud and especially with with alcohol as well because alcohol ultimately enhances people's voices go up and everything goes on everything gets louder and louder and it's kind of like this is too much it's time to go home oh yes i can relate another thing i did yeah when i when i came back was i was very interested not not just in watching football soccer and westerns but I was interested in watching interviews and programs and films about astronauts going out to space space travel because I wanted to see what their take was

on being out in the universe itself and I was very delighted to see a lot of the feedback was amazing I mean these guys are the ultimate scientists you've got to be a lot of the feedback was amazing. I mean, these guys are the ultimate scientists. You've got to be a scientist to go to the moon. You can't just say, hey, I'm a spiritualist. They'll say, well, sorry, back of the queue. You've got to be a scientist to be able to pull that job off. But when they're interviewed afterwards, when they've retired, or even as they're talking straight after coming back into the Earth's orbit,

some of the stuff they were saying was so spiritual. It was beautiful, you know. And I just thought, there you go. They were in the universe itself, and they experienced that energy that is part of us. As Einstein said, you know, the energy is constantly moving forward. So I feel, therefore, so are we. And also the universe wants everything to recreate.

You know, it creates all the four seasons, the trees, the leaves dying, and then the growing again, the grass growing, and all the animals reproducing and all these different things that happen. That's all the universe that's bringing that about. And I think that we, as a human race, we forget that because we just think,

well, we're really intelligent and we're in charge of our lives, which is not true. We're very good at it, but we're not in charge of it, which has been proven. You know, we just had a world pandemic, you know, which is like the whole Earth is just going like that. And everyone's just going, oh, this can't happen to us. We're in control of our destiny. So it's been proven that that's not actually the case.

Well, that's fascinating. I love the moon and the stars, too. I bet you look at the sky a lot differently now oh yeah totally yeah i remember the the night that i was writing the lyrics to because i wanted to have some lyrics in the third movement of my piece about my near-death experience i'd gone up and i was actually staying in a beach house and i'd read in the newspaper the night before that there was going to be a meteor storm and that night of 3am roughly so I stayed up for it and I just sat on this little sand dune on my own

and it was very calm and I just watched and it was like this massive display of light just coming through I just felt so inspired from just seeing that that it almost took me back to that space that I've been in you know and the lyrics of like the next day I just wrote the lyrics straight off. So let's talk about your book shine on. First I'm curious about your coauthors. So you guys have been friends for a long time. Yeah, that's right. I mean, as I said to you, I'm being dyslexic.

I had always wanted to write this story, but I just thought, it's never going to happen. I thought there's no way I'm going to be able to write a whole book. And it's all there. It's all in there and it's all inside. And I thought so many people say, this is a great story. You should write your story.

I was going, yeah, if only. So again, synchronicity, this friend of mine I hadn't seen for a while and she moved down from Scotland. And so we hadn't been in touch that much. And we got chatting and we got talking about it. And he said oh if you want i'll help you you know and uh i can ghost write this for you and i said that'd be brilliant so she explained what a ghost writer was i didn't even know what ghost writers were so it was great because she's actually said to me since that

she feels now that she was channeling she knew nothing about channeling but obviously after interviewing hours and hours of interviews and stuff and tapes that she realized that she was channeling as she was written writing the book because there were certain aspects of my characters that she just got and she was able just to help me put it into words you know and get it onto printed page so there was hardly any struggles if you like you know, and get it onto a printed page. So there was hardly any struggles, if you like, you know, there was no sort of like, no, no, no, no, hang on a sec, this is not me, you know, you've got it all wrong. You know, it just kind of, it just came together really beautifully.

But I think it's important as well that, you know, I want people to know when they buy the book, you're not just going to read about a near-death experience. You're going to read about the journey that my life took from the emptiness that I was in and the hopelessness basically that I was in a completely different three-dimensional life that I now have and as I say it's a journey of love as well so for people that read it what are your hopes for them to take away from your book well so far everyone it does really I mean it's interesting you know I've had

people get in touch with me, you know, old schoolmates or whatever and stuff like that, who I never would have thought would have read it. And they said, oh, I saw your book and I bought it and I read it and it's fantastic. And they are the kind of blokes that I never thought would even want to talk about spirituality and stuff like that. And I was going, oh, thanks for buying it and reading it. And, you know, this one guy, this was only a couple of weeks ago and he was getting back to me he was going yeah he said he said my wife's

father died two weeks ago and it's helped us both you know sort of re-evaluate the afterlife and he said and you've confirmed a lot of thoughts that i had in my own mind and it's and it's just what that is brilliant so i guess you know ultimately it i would would love for people to have no fear of death and realize that once they read it, that death is not to be feared, but also to try and grasp the importance of love and the self-love that is in that story, because that's really important as well. Did you just lose your mother? Yes. I'm so sorry. Oh, no, it's a year ago, but it's still recent. i'm so sorry oh no well it's a year ago but it's still really so sorry for your loss oh thank you you think that your death prepared you to help deal with your mom's death better oh yeah definitely yeah when she uh when she passed um i remember

which she'd had a heart attack in the afternoon. So she went into hospital. So I was with her the night before with my sister. And she was fine. She'd survived the heart attack. It wasn't a serious one. But my mum had Alzheimer's as well. So it's kind of like that night before, she seemed more lucid than it was like our old mum was back.

And we just had a really beautiful time. We just kept telling each other how much we loved each other so that was like brilliant closure having that moment and then I got a phone call early the next morning from the hospital and I knew it was bad news you know when you get a phone call and the doctor came on the phone he said your mum's had a massive heart attack I think you better come in I said yeah so I jumped in the car and I turned on the ignition and a piece of classical music that I have got to like which is by Marla and it's Marla's fifth symphony came on and it was right from the opening chords as soon as I turned on the engine and I knew at that point that mum had gone I just thought uh she's gone I thought either she or my guides

have put that on because I got a 20 minute drive to the hospital and they put this on to calm me and and it did calm me and I yeah I caused a physical loss you know I lost my mum who brought me into the world and I loved her and I and I grieved for her which I'm glad I did of course yes and but I knew ultimately I remember saying to her i said i went in to see after she died and stuff and and i just stroked her head and i said well mom you know i know where you are now and you're gonna love it there and i just said it total hand on heart i was completely convinced and happy that she she would love it and she was also away from this awful alzheimer's as well. So it was great. I agree with that. You know, so there was a kind of,

there was a moment of beauty in it as well. Yeah. Oh, mom, I'm so sorry. That's a beautiful story though. I'm glad that your guides are so there for you, placing that moment of peace for you, you know, on your way to see your mother. Yeah, yeah, I know.

Will you share your website where people learn more about your story and your book and listen to your music yeah so my website is called shine on the story.com so if you go there you can you can stream the the first symphony for free you can listen to that to your heart's content and you can look at my paintings and then if you want to follow me on instagram or facebook or youtube or whatever yeah there's a channel there you can you can find the links on the website as well you can also click on you can buy the book there which will take you probably it'll take it to you wherever you are in the world it'll take it to your amazon outlet or what have you did Did you draw the art for your book? Yes yes I did do yeah oh yeah I had to do the cover yeah so yeah so that's me. So here in America people always use

the saying like comatose like oh I feel like I'm comatose today like really tired and I'm like no you can't use that because I've actually been in a coma another one they always use is today I feel like I was hit by a train and so you're probably like no you cannot use that I've actually been hit by a train people have done it all the time but it just makes me laugh actually you know because they apologize straight away they'll do well I did it myself I went off the tracks a bit that kind of thing you know I've done it myself well it has been such a pleasure thank you for sharing your story you're welcome i'll just if people do want to that i'm offering like the first chapter for free on my website so if people you know are curious and they want to have a look at that first before buying if they can do that so if you click on my website you

know shine on the story.com you'll see you'll just see this big blue thing it says first chapter free download so do have a have a look if you want and now it's time for break that shit down stop and be in the moment you know just forget about the past that the past is gone and it doesn't actually exist it doesn't belong to you anymore and also so is the future the future doesn't exist we don't know what the future holds so don't spend time thinking about it now just enjoy the presence and if you do that you'll suddenly realize that actually the presence quite a good place to be and it's no matter what's going on in the world pandemic whatever if you stop and look around you in this present moment it's all right it's okay so that's what i'll leave it that's perfect

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