Sense of Soul - The Journey of a Female Rebel
Episode Date: July 14, 2025Today back on Sense of Soul we have Chyla Walsh. She and her husband Coby came on SOS months ago to share their company SomaEnergetics, a global vibrational healing company. Today Chyla joined Shanna ...to share her journey as a Mama, Intuitive Coach, and the CEO and Founder of Female Rebels. Chyla Walsh is a mother, yoga instructor, women’s empowerment coach, and founder of Female Rebels, a movement born in 2015 to gather women in sacred practices, activate purpose, and raise global consciousness. Chyla’s spiritual journey began over a decade ago with a powerful awakening in a yoga studio in Aspen, Colorado. Since then, she has led transformative classes and events across the U.S., creating spaces for healing and connection. Her path deepened through a serendipitous encounter with a tuning fork in Hawaii—an experience that opened her to the world of vibrational healing. For Chyla, sound is a sacred bridge between body and spirit, and SomaEnergetics offers a powerful tool to help individuals activate their inner healer. With a vision to integrate sound healing into yoga and holistic practices, Chyla is passionate about building community rooted in transformation, beauty, and Spirit. Her most cherished role remains being a mother to her three children and devoted partner to her beloved — these journeys have been her deepest initiation and greatest source of inspiration. Visit her website: https://www.femalerebels.com Follow Chyla on Instagram @Female_Rebels or @ChylaWalsh
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Today on Sense of Soul, I have back with me Kyla Walsh. Her and her husband,
Kobe, had joined me a few months ago where they shared their new adventure as the new
owners of Soma Energetics, one of Sense of Soul's affiliates in the Network of Lightworkers.
However, today Kyla is joining us to tell
us about her personal journey as a mother, an intuitive coach, and the CEO and founder
of Female Rebels, a community of women supporting one another across the globe. A container
where women can activate their sacred calling. It's my honor to have
her with us today to share her soul's mission. Please welcome Kyla.
Kyla Hey! How are you?
Kyla I'm so good.
Kyla I'm super excited to have you on. And thank
you David Hulse for introducing me to you and to Kobe and to Soma Energetics, which whoever's listening,
I highly recommend you go and listen to their episode and even David Hulse's episode was super
good too as well. And it's, I just felt such a connection with you, Kyla, as a mother, as a woman. And then when I find out that you have this female rebels,
this mission in you to ignite the power within women,
I was like, oh girl, we have to hear your story
and to find out, you know,
how did this goddess bloom within you?
Thank you.
Thank you for seeing me.
You're so sweet.
And big gratitude to David. Yeah,
I really feel his sweetness. He has such a sweet, sweet soul and I can feel his sweetness
in recognizing there would be a connection for you and I. Like he probably was like,
oh, Kyla is going to love Shanna. Yeah. Yeah, I can see that in him. He's very wise, you know, like soul wise.
So tell me, I see that much of your spiritual journey happened here in Colorado, which is
that's where I am. So one day you'll have to travel back here where your journey began
and I get to see you physically. That would be fun.
Please, I would love that.
Yeah, to be together in person.
Oh, I love talking about Colorado
because I love Colorado.
I think there are certain places on the planet
and specifically I'm thinking of the United States.
There's these places that are just portals
and activation places.
And I really believe it's something to do
with the mountains, the mountains,
like hiking and going up the mountain.
And Aspen is just so majestic.
I mean, it's unreal.
People travel from all over the world to come to Aspen
and spend their time there. And it was like a year after college, I moved to Aspen. One of my best
friends was there. I went to visit her after a breakup. And I was like, I don't want to leave. And I was kind of
in that in between of like, what's next, you know, in my
early 20s. And I just, I felt such a strong pull to be there.
And there was this really wonderful human who was like, I
mean, immediately, they were like, wanted to hire me for the
hotel. So it was like a hospitality calling that
happened, which was not my plan. I studied journalism. So it was like a hospitality calling that happened, which was not my plan.
I studied journalism, so I was like, okay. But I really believe God speaks through people.
And I really felt that from this human. Her name is Danielle. She has red hair like me.
And she was like, you will be back by your birthday. Like I'll let you go home and
tell your family you're moving here, but you're coming back by your birthday. Like I'll let you go home and tell your family
you're moving here, but you're coming back.
And then she would text me every day.
So I stayed there for like a few weeks, you know,
on a little trip, went home and then moved to Aspen
and started working in hospitality.
I worked at the front desk at a wonderful hotel and it was such an incredible experience.
I mean just the gift of living in Aspen was something that I will cherish forever.
I mean what a dream.
And as a local there's such a beautiful community that everybody really supports each other.
So you get deals to go to the restaurants
and you get deals to get skis
and you get deals to get ski passes.
And everybody that I worked with was all my age.
We had all just graduated and it was just really fun
and really playful and really carefree and hard work.
Like it was like work hard because Aspen is,
you know, huge tourist industry.
And so I did that for a couple years. And I was feeling the pull actually to go to yoga
more so from a place of like, I wanted to get find something that would be like a good
exercise for me. I, you know, would go to the gym and
do the elliptical and I was bored. I was like, okay, I want to try something new. So I just
has like, I'm going to try yoga because I wanted to work out honestly, like that was
the drive. And I went into the hot yoga studio in Aspen and it was called Arjuna yoga. And
I honestly, it was that first class where I was like, what is happening? Like
this is beyond physical, of course, a hot yoga class, it's
steaming hot. And it's an incredible workout. I mean, you
open every facet of your body. But I felt this like emotional
weight, just start to leave my body like
heaviness that I honestly didn't even really know that I was
carrying because it was just that early 20s life where I'm
like, everything's good, and let's have fun. And we're having
a good time. And let's go skiing and let's hang out and all of
that. It was wonderful. But then I wasn't really taking time to
process. And so when I first went into yoga, I was like,
I could feel my soul and my spirit,
like just so clearly saying, yes, this is it.
So quickly after I signed up for my 30 day yoga challenge,
and I just was, I was so in love.
You know, I grew up cheerleading.
I fell in love with cheerleading very young, tried all the
sports and I was like, Mom, this is what I want to do. So it
spoke to that part of me to where I really got to be in my
body in that way. Oh, my goodness, it's just so beautiful
thinking back to that time. So I was doing my 30 day challenge.
And one of the teachers came up to me and she said, are you going to do
the teacher training? And I'm like looking over my shoulder like, who is she talking
to? Cause it was new to me still. And she's like, I'm talking to you. Her name was Kate.
She's lovely soul. Um, and I was like, Oh my goodness. And again, I really think God
speaks through people. I just felt it.
Like it was like that lightning bolt moment where I was like, this is an invitation for me to step
into something that I really am starting to love and see how it unfolds. And it just, it cracked me
open. I mean, the biggest thing for me with yoga in the beginning,
I said I went into yoga because I really wanted to work out.
And what that really was, was me craving to love my body
and to love myself as it was.
And I very quickly learned that like that needed
to be my intention for my training. So it was like
kind of just the thing that I just I stayed with and loving your body is so multifaceted
because our body keeps the score, right? Our body holds so much. So when you start loving
your body, you start loving all of those cracks and all of the tension and all of the old stories and all of the wounds. It's not just physical, like, you know, the
shape of your body or how you feel like your body looks, which
of course is part of it, but it's very spiritual and
emotional. And so I would be in a pose. And it was 360 degrees
mirrors, the studio. This is confronting, right? You
know, so I'd be in a pose. And I would hear kind of my mind
start to trip out on whatever you know, that was the
obsession for me at the time was really like, that was the thing
that I feel like my mind fixated on almost like those addictive
patterns that we can have of thoughts. It was really like picking apart my
body that used to be like the biggest thing for me. So I'd be
in the in the mirror and I'd hear that voice and I would just
shift it and say I love my body exactly as it is I love you and
I close my eyes and I would just like send this loving energy.
And the way that my body healed from that,
it was really miraculous.
Just like places in my body that were holding and tight.
I mean, I really transformed and it was physical,
but it was 100% emotional and spiritual for me.
It just allowed me to let go of a lot of old stuff,
shame, you know old stuff, shame,
you know, wounds, trauma, all of that.
It was just melting away by me just really loving
my vessel and I really do feel like those mountains,
they like hold this energy.
So it was right at the base of Aspen mountain
was this little yoga studio, you know, and every, we
went multiple days to do our teacher training and we would go to the studio and then we'd
walk over to the base of the mountain and have a coffee and then we'd go back to the
studio and it was just, I was so invested and so in love with it. I don't even think
I skied that winter because I just did my training. Like I was like, this is what I want to do.
And I had a beautiful relationship with the woman who owned the studio.
And she quickly was like, you're starting teaching.
You're born for this.
And everything just went from there.
It just completely changed my whole path and I just carved it out.
And so that was the start.
Oh my God.
Yeah.
It's so unexpected.
It sounds like, you know, the last time I was in Aspen, it was winter and they had an
actual polo event.
You know, they're actually playing polo.
Like this is the type of city that is, you just find the most random things going on that you wouldn't, you know,
otherwise in any other place.
I had one time on the director of the Edgar Cayce Foundation, John Van Auken, and he told
me that the mountains here in Colorado are one of the special places.
You know, I mean, it's like one of the highest places. So almost like
pyramid, right? Or, you know, just one of those sacred high places. I definitely agree.
And there are many vortexes here in Colorado. I've experienced some really cool things up
in the mountains. But so from Aspen, how did you end up where you are today?
Because I know you ended up meeting Kobe, which I would love to hear.
Yeah.
Oh, that's so special.
So I'm a huge musical person, a huge music festival person as well.
That's been a huge part of my life, which we'll get to it.
But that's where I met Kobe. But I've been going to music festivals. I interned at a radio station in college. And
that was when I started going to Coachella. That was what? 2007. So one of my sorority sisters,
she said, do you want to go to Coachella with me? So she came from Oklahoma and I came from Aspen.
And we had the most magical time.
It's in California, obviously.
And I ended up meeting a friend who ended up becoming
an ex-boyfriend of mine.
But when I met him, my feeling really was like,
he was an angel.
Like, he was meant to be an angel in my life. And he really
was that like such a kind, loving, pure, pure hearted soul. And I think God speaks through people.
He said, I really think you would like Santa Barbara. And I was like, sometimes when people say
stuff to you, it hits you in a way where you're like, oh, there's truth in that.
Like that there that's meant to be something more than just a sentence I hear. And so I really felt that.
And then moved back to Scranton. So I kind of reversed and now, OK, coming forward, I moved back to Scranton, was with my family. And I continued talking with him as a friend,
and he actually asked me to be a part of a startup
that he was starting, which was a music startup,
and lots of different threads of life
that I've lived in this lifetime.
But I ended up moving to Santa Barbara
because of my connection with him,
and we ended up dating for a little while and I was coming.
It's a it's a big part of my story, but it's something that I don't talk about often, but I was in an abusive relationship.
And so I left that relationship. And then when I met this person that I'm speaking of,
and I say he was like an angel, it's
because he offered a healing in that partnership with him
that I wouldn't be who I am without that, honestly.
Like he really shifted the trust in me
and being able to trust again and to know
that people are just good.
And after you're in a relationship
that's really unhealthy, you kind of like can't just settle and like the other shoe isn't going
to fall or something bad isn't going to happen. So when I say he was an angel, like he offered
something to my journey that was so paramount in where I am today and having the relationship I have today. I really
like honor him for that because he's a really, really good person. So went there and Santa
Barbara everything just landed for me. I just felt so connected. I could just feel like, wow,
I've never felt like this in a place before. I felt a sense of belonging to that place that I still feel that I really
cherish that I think is we have to really like notice when we feel that.
Because I do think there are places that really are for us.
And I do think Santa Barbara is one of my soul homes and I just, everything
lined up, you know,
like we said, with the synchronicities,
the job worked out and this worked out
and I ended up starting teaching yoga.
And that was the start of me teaching full-time
was in Santa Barbara.
So it started as a little seed.
I picked up like the 6 a.m. class,
which is a total like new teacher vibe
where you're like, give me the class, I class I will teach it whatever and I grew that class and then
I kept taking on more classes and I was there for this really magical time where
this studio existed it was called Divinity it then sold and is now named
something else but it had a beautiful mural on the wall of
Shiva and Shakti and then the Shri Yantra in the middle. And so I would teach and I'd
either be like sitting with that behind me or I would be out with the students looking
at that. And I'm like, it was just amazing. It was like such a powerful container. Talk about places that are vortexes. Santa
Barbara is 100% one of those. There's kind of, I've had lots of lives because I've lived
lots of places and I really feel like that places kind of, they live in us, they become
us and we carry them with us. So Santa Barbara is where I started Female Rebels.
I was teaching yoga full-time, Female Rebels,
everything was just like lit up.
My life was just very aligned.
Everything felt so good.
I was doing what I wanted to do
and feeling so aligned with my purpose.
And I went to teach yoga at a festival that's in San Diego.
It's called Desert Hearts. They moved locations now, but it was at the time it was on a Native
American Indian reservation. And I was teaching a yoga class. I'm trying to do like a short version
because Kobe and I's meeting was very magical. And teaching every day.
And so I really came in the seat of like, I'm teaching,
like I'm not here for like the party vibe.
I'm not here for like meeting anybody.
I'm just here in my sovereignty.
There was something in that feeling for me
that I feel like is why I was able to meet Kobe,
if that makes sense.
Like I was like, I am in my sovereign space. I am here
for myself. I am here for this teaching and to be of service. And it's kind of like a queen energy,
is honestly what it felt like. Like I was like, I'm here for like this that I'm doing and like,
I plan and I'm teaching my yoga class. And I had a friend who would do live music and people would come
in because it's festival so it's not like you started a class and they come in right at time.
So people were coming in as I was teaching and Kobi came into the back of the class.
You know I saw everyone that was there and so I'm like acknowledging them and we're doing this class with music and it was really beautiful and afterwards he came up to me and said thank
you for the class and I was passing out flyers for a retreat that I was going to do.
I'm like yeah thank you for coming and I looked up and saw Kobe and I was like do I know you?
His first words out of my mouth meeting like, do I know you? First words out of my mouth, meeting him.
Do I know you?
It was so, I remembered him so clearly when I saw his eyes,
it was just like, I for sure know him.
Like I have to.
I'm like, do you live in Santa Barbara?
He's like, no, I live in Atlanta.
And I'm like, okay, I've never been to Atlanta.
I'm like, have you been to Santa Barbara? Like, I'm like, where did I meet
you? Because I've definitely met you. And he speaks to that he
felt the same thing like she looks so familiar. So we had a
nice moment. And he would tell you later, he thought I was
dating my musician friend, which I wasn't. So he was like being
very kind, like, thank you for the class. And then moving on. But I was like,
I'm here like doing my thing. So like, thank you. Nice to meet
you. And then I saw him later that night. And he had on like,
it gets cold at night. So everybody wears fur. And he had
on this jacket. And I just remember seeing him. And it was
like, I saw another dimension of him. And I was just like, Wolf.
Don't know what like, it just is the thing that I kind of felt he was
by himself. He's very independent. So he was like by
himself like doing his thing. But just so regal like he's such
a beautiful man. And I was just like, wolf. Okay. And there's
like, huh, that was interesting. So then that was I think, Saturday night. And then Sunday, I'm getting ready to leave because we had to go, me and my musician friend had to go to another festival that we were teaching at.
And so I'm like, let's pack up our tents tonight. And like, let's leave early because we're going to go to Lucidity, which was the Santa Barbara festival. And, oh, I just want to say I love Lucidity so much,
beautiful community.
They are no longer doing festivals, but I just adore them.
So we were going to do that.
So I'm like, okay, I have this whole like plan, right?
And I'm on the dance floor, I'm having a great time.
And I had this tincture that one of my students
had brought back from India when she went to see her family.
And it was like a icy hot little magical potion. And I'm like, okay, spirit, show me somebody
worthy as my last drop. And I stepped back out of the crowd. And I was just offering people like,
if you want a hand massage or a neck massage, like it's just, it's how I am. I'm like, let me just love on you and
be loving. I took two steps out of the crowd and I turned and it was Kobe. So it was, you
know, spirit guided me and he had like a fake tattoo on his third eye. So it was just like one of those like, oh, okay.
And I said, do you want a neck massage?
And he did the same like look over his shoulder.
It's like, who is she talking to?
I'm like, I'm talking to you.
So I gave him a little neck massage.
And now that I know Kobe, like that's actually how he is.
He's always, he did right before we started the call,
he came in and was like massaging my neck because my neck is a little bit flared up right now.
And I'm like, thank you, like that literally with like our Icy Hot. Like that's who he is.
That's who he is. So for him to have someone offer that to him was really like heart opening. Like
he was like, wow, who is this person?
It's like one of those things where it was like kind of meant to be.
So he offered to give me one and we had this, you know, we could just feel like
there's like kind of chemistry and sparks.
It was really beautiful.
And he had this leather bag on and I said, wow, I love your leather bag. I was I just
did like a leather making workshop. I was getting really
into it. And he he teared up and he said, This is my
grandfather's. And I was like, Oh, that's so beautiful. And he
was talking about when his grandfather met his grandmother,
and I could feel them there with us as he was talking about them just so clearly.
And I said, Can I give you a hug? And, you know, he said, Sure. And he, you know, was
just tearing up a little bit. But the picture of our first ever hug before we were, you
know, a couple, it's behind me right here. I can't really see it. But somebody captured
it. And it's so powerful powerful and then like the festival shared it
after then I'm like that's a picture of our first hug. So from that moment and when we hugged I had
this wild experience I felt my heart crack open and I heard this little voice that said, you found him, you found him. It was like a
little fairy. And I was just like, what is happening? Like,
what is going on? Like, again, I was clear there was no like
additional substances assisting and this it was still to this
day. I'm like, what what was that? It was like love right
away. And we knew knew it and we both felt
it. So many synchronicities, things that like I had just said then would show up in like
physical form and we were just like, what is going on?
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Now back to our amazing guest.
And he has his version of the story, which he kind of had, you know, similar.
So I just knew right away and he sat
down with me like shortly after we kind of had our like initial
really powerful coming together like, okay, we here we are, we
finally found each other again. And he was like, just want to
let you know that like, I live in Atlanta, and I have a son.
And I was like, okay, And so it really shaped our togetherness
because it was like something that was already very known,
like a pillar almost, like this is what is.
And I had a lot more of like free form.
I was like creating my life
and I had a lot of flexibility comparatively
to somebody who has a child, which I now understand. I had gone to Burning Man the year before
and loved it and wanted to go again. He was also at that same Burning Man. So we've both
only been to Burning Man once, but not together. So we were like, maybe we cross paths at Burning Man at some point.
Yeah, something like some little. So this was, you know,
this is right at the beginning of the summer. And we were like,
maybe I'll move at the end of summer. Well, a lot of things
happened, like big shifts, monumental things that kind of
showed me like it was time for me to leave Santa Barbara. And I was like, well, do I go back to Pennsylvania? Or should I come to
Atlanta and we try this out? And so it happened really, really fast. Like at the time, now
I can see like how much it was okay to trust that. But of course, like, you get a little
bit freaked out. You're like, oh my gosh
We're moving really fast blah blah blah. So I moved and everything kind of moved quickly and looking back. I feel like
Spirit and my soul and his soul kind of knew that like I needed to initiate into the mother
Because that's what was happening already stepping into you know, welcoming his son into my life
and his son welcoming me, there is a version of mother
in that it's not exactly, at least for me,
because his mother's still very present.
Like, he was my son, but I, you know, I,
it's a different role.
I was kind of a little bit more like,
I enjoyed it at the time
because I kind of got to be like cool.
I'm like, let's have fun.
Let's go, like I didn't have to discipline.
I guess that's a good way of looking at it.
Like that was not part of my role with him.
And so anyway, so I moved to Atlanta
and we kind of became,
and then very shortly after that, we got pregnant with Satya, my daughter. And you know,
then our family really merged in a beautiful way because my son
had his you know, sister and I've lived so many lives. I feel
like so silly. But I'm like, yeah, and then we moved again.
So then we moved to San Diego, which is where we met, ironically. And Kobe had a business at the time
there with his brother who lived in San Diego. And so we moved there to kind of be present in
person with the business instead of virtually. Over that time, I shifted female rebels from in
person, which it was in Santa Barbara, to virtual.
So that's how it became more so what people know it now
as is like a virtual offering.
But anyway, so we moved to San Diego.
We had our second beautiful daughter, Dahlia.
So my first birth, I started as a home birth,
transferred and had a C-section. My second birth, I started as a home birth, transferred and had a c-section.
My second birth, I was going to do in the hospital because I felt like, okay, this will feel safer after what I was been through with the c-section. And we went into lockdown when I was about 37
weeks pregnant. And I had hired a doula who was also a trained midwife, because I knew that she would be able to be
with me during labor and make sure everything was good because
they can like monitor the heart, which a doula doesn't do. So
it's like, okay, I'm gonna hire this midwife, essentially, what
37 weeks, I said, I think I feel more safe at home now. You know,
the hospital no longer feels like
the most safe place.
So I had my redemptive home birth,
be back, which is a vaginal birth after a C-section
in our home, which is like a block from the ocean
in San Diego.
It was so magical.
Oh my gosh.
What a moment in time. I'm so grateful for that blessing.
And then both of my postpartums really interestingly ended up being pretty isolated.
The first time was because I was new to Atlanta and I was heartbroken after leaving Santa Barbara,
to be honest. Like that community still, I'm still close with all the women there.
to be honest, like that community still, I'm still close with all the women there.
That community has a special place in my being. So I was kind of felt a little more alone in Atlanta. So I was like, I'm not going to do that again. So I built a whole community around me,
I have a whole program that I created called threshold, that is to help women get ready for motherhood
during pregnancy because of how hard
the first time was for me.
And a big part of that was like,
not just expecting community to be there for you,
but honestly like asking for them,
like, hey, will you come hang out with me
when I like haven't showered in three days
and I have breast milk and vomit all over me like
who are those people that you want near you. So I tried to set
myself up and I you know, it was interesting because then we're
in lockdown. So I also had kind of a very isolated postpartum as
well. And it was that mixed with flights had stopped.
Right.
And we couldn't go see our son. And we're like, what are we
gonna I mean, flights hadn't stopped, but they were like,
stopping, I mean, internationally. And so we're,
you remember, we're all like, what is happening? What's gonna
happen? Are we gonna have like, locked down on state lines and
stuff like we're, you know, it was a lot for us to process as a family living far away.
And so we really sat and Kobe and I both, it was one of the biggest decisions before,
I would say before taking over Soma, that we sat and we prayed and we meditated.
When I think back to that decision and how intense that was for us, because we
really were like, there was a lot of directions we could go in that felt right. And then we
also really were trying to listen to where we were being called. But oftentimes, when
you listen to information before you fully live it, you don't know
why. You're just listening. And so we were just like, okay, I'm,
I would go and do my meditation, and he would do his and then
we'd come together and do it. And we just kept hearing, go be
in Scranton. I have a lot of things that have occurred that I
can see,
but I think I'm only gonna fully understand it looking back,
you know, from like years down the road.
Because of course, like, it's like the magic
and preciousness of family time for my children.
My youngest daughter has,
this has been her whole life basically.
Like she doesn't remember California and being born there.
Our oldest daughter also doesn't really remember California
that much either and doesn't remember Atlanta.
She was a baby.
So this is what they're gonna remember, you know,
is being here.
And I feel so grateful that we live here. And I have this time with my
family, I get to be with my siblings, and everyone's having
babies. But yeah, we came and that was during if you remember,
the whole housing thing that went on during COVID, where
everyone was moving, they were like leaving the cities
and a lot of people were selling their houses
that hadn't been on the market,
especially in an area like Scranton.
It's not like a booming place of people,
influx of people coming in.
The amount of homes that sold during that time
in this area was probably record breaking.
The interest rate was really low.
It was just a very different time, you know, and it was my first time buying a home.
So I was learning in that environment.
But we looked at a lot of houses.
I came first with my daughters.
I flew with them and gosh, it's when everyone was wearing masks and it was a little I felt really intimidated also being so fresh postpartum I felt a little raw like traveling with my two kids for the first time there that in itself is kind of intimidating but then add to that like you're worried about this.
to that, like you're worried about this, whatever that, you know, was going on at the time. And I didn't know if my toddler
was gonna run away from me. So it's like, so funny, I was so
nervous, but I made it here. And I was like, okay, I have
arrived. And then I started looking at houses. And I went
with my mom for like the first month. Kobe finished kind of packing up our home in California.
He was like, you guys go so that the house is cleared and we can pack the pots
and pans and dishes.
And I started looking at houses and I looked at this house the first week
because I looked at this house from San Diego on Zillow and was like,
oh my gosh, it's just magical.
I remember this home as a child.
I remember driving by it and being like,
wow, I love that house and it's in this very beautiful old Victorian neighborhood.
The houses have a lot of
presence to them. Like you're like, wow, look at that house. And so yeah, it was just beautiful.
So we looked at a lot of houses and we really, we had an interesting journey with the man we
were buying the home from because he was really giving us a hard time. He was like in his late
nineties and he basically was like, I have no reason to like go lower on my price. Like he was really giving us a hard time. He was like in his late nineties and he basically was like,
I have no reason to like go lower on my price.
Like he was like, I'm sticking my feet in the mud.
And I'm like, honey, just work with us.
Like when like all these houses are selling
like hotcakes around him, but he didn't care.
So it was a long, we waited from the time we
like put an offer in to
the time we moved in it was like almost four months and the full
process of looking for a home was seven months. My baby at the
time was five months old when we moved. She was a year old when
we moved into the home finally. So we were like, nomadic. I mean, I
lived with my mom for a few months. And then we traveled
around, we went down to Atlanta and we're with our son and yeah,
crazy time. But we ended up here and we've been here and I've
been able to like, be in the room for one of my sister's births and be present.
My grandfather's, you know, going through a lot of health stuff right now and just to be able to
like be with him and have time with him over these last few years and to be with both of my parents,
to be with my mother, to have my children develop their own relationship with
my mother has been so precious to me.
I love watching that and witnessing that and having them know their aunts and uncles and
not just from like a FaceTime or a couple times a year visiting and like, and there's
been a lot of, a lot of dominoes, you know, a lot of loss, like my, my mom's mother passed away while we were here, her brother and they're, they're behind me on my altar too. And I'm really grateful that I've been able to be here and be with all of that. If that makes sense. It's like you just get to be in a different space than...
sense. It's like you just get to be in a different space than
I've lived far away when my my mother's father passed away. And it was so hard because I was like, I want to be there and
you get to go and be there for you know, the celebration of
life, but then you go back to your reality. And so I'm very
grateful for the highs and the lows and all of the things in between.
And it has been a reckoning for me of my journey to be in my hometown.
Yeah, to be where I'm from, where I was born, to be around family all the time.
Ram Dass says, if you think you're enlightened, spend a week with
your family. And I'm like, try living back in your hometown, you know, like, really immersing yourself
with family really sitting with it, not just confronting the things that are difficult for
you to look at a week out of the year or a couple weeks out of the year that you see family. Yes, that's very powerful. And the work I've had to do to be around it's
it's not about them. It's about me. It's about the shadows that are inside of me from the
projections that I created from what I experienced as a child because of my own soul.
And so I've had to really come to terms with that
and get to know myself and learn how to process
that level of depth outside of going back to California
or going back to Aspen.
It was so important that you did that too.
Yes.
You wouldn't be where you are now,
but I bet you during that
uncertain time of COVID, your body was probably even wanting
stability and to be rooted.
Mm hmm.
And now, and then that long journey of finding your space, I
can't imagine, or I can't imagine really that coming home to your
home was really coming home to your
body and feeling that groundedness and that safety and secure place for you and your family.
Hmm. Yeah, definitely. You know, that's a really beautiful way to look at it from I
can feel that in my physical body when you say it.
Yeah, that's really beautiful.
Space that you gave yourself to be free.
You know, I love that too, because I think that's important as well for myself. I mean, I've just moved right into being the mommy.
I didn't really have a lot of that space.
I find the space now where I'm at in my life and I'm like,
thank God. I mean, because, you know, when I was a mom with young kids, I mean, that was very hard to find. Maybe hiding in my closet.
Yeah, I'm fascinated by the different iterations. And this is, you you know something you and I have spoken
about when we've talked like the versions that we go through as women
whether we become mother younger or perhaps we become mother a little bit
later like I'm about to have you know it's another part of the journey about
to have another little baby.
Like a month before this baby comes, I will turn 40.
And so it has its own things that I'm very grateful and excited for.
But I made a very conscious decision to start my mother journey later.
And I was 32 when I started my motherhood journey, which I still
don't think is like that much older. But in the context of what I saw growing up, my mom
had me when she was 21 and she had seven kids from 21 to 31. I'm like, you had seven by
the time I had my first. I definitely was like, okay, I've gotten to the mile marker.
Because she didn't really get to have that freedom that we're talking about.
And it does make a difference.
It changes the dynamic of what the journey looks like.
I don't think there's better or worse.
It just changes it.
That is the whole thing with female rebels. That's
exactly it. I think what it evolved to was like I eventually, you know, created a
container for mothers, but the entire impetus of that container was, yes, you
are a mother, but I want you to stay connected to that thread of your soul
and what you want to create. And that can be like, you wanna create a beautiful home
for your family, but it's also, a lot of the time,
we have this thing in us that wants to come through.
And I especially find that those are the women
that are drawn to female rebels.
Like she is her own beautiful being, female rebels.
Like she is like a fierce little force.
And I feel very blessed that she came through and was like, will you work with me? And I was like,
yes, like this is amazing. I am so in love with the mission. It's very true to who I am. So it's
authentic to my journey. But she's her own thing. I say,'s a beautiful teacher, Hiro Boga, and she teaches connecting with the soul of your business.
And when I finally started doing that with Female Rebels, something opened up for me where I really got to see the distinction of female rebels and
me. Female rebels wants women to stay connected to who they are
in their authentic essence. That is her mission. What is your
authentic essence? Who are you at a core level of your being
before you became mother before you became wife, before you became partner, before you
became business owner, before you were anything, who are you?
And keeping that essence alive, because that's what's going to bring you to the things you're
meant to bring into the world and create in the world. And it's going to connect you to the way that
you want to mother, which is going to be your unique sauce. No two mothers are going to
do it exactly the same. We can kind of look similar. Like me and my best friend, I love
hanging out with her because we do things very similarly, but like she has her way and
I have mine and I love
that we can offer something to each other. It's like if you bring a really good dish to the potluck
and then someone else does and like on the plate they're so good together like they're not the
same they're their own thing but they go really well together and we have to bring that beautiful
And we have to bring that beautiful, my ears are ringing whenever I'm like feeling it, that beautiful part of ourselves wants so much to be seen, to be witnessed, to be in
sisterhood.
It craves to be with other women.
And like, you see me, like when you said that in the beginning, I'm just like,
thank you for seeing me. I mean, what I don't think there's many other gifts in this life
that are that are like that gift to be seen. What you're doing, you know, as a sisterhood,
which has been not a part of our society, I mean, women have been fighting for positions.
So there's this competitiveness.
I mean, women weren't even allowed to read not too long ago.
I mean, there's so many things
that had repressed the divine feminine.
And so now that she's rising,
I do see this hunger for sisterhood, being there for each other of
all ages. You know, I look at my daughters, you know, and I have daughters in different phases.
I look at me and my mother and I think back on my relationship, how important it was with the
wisdom that my grandma had taught me and how times are so different because I used to worship that martyr in her and I wanted to be that.
And there's a lot of patterns, you know, passed down that I how they are, these younger generations are coming
in far less conditioned and they're going to just soar.
I can already see the strength in women, these young women.
You and I had talked and I think our first conversation was long with you and your husband,
but then you and I also got on the phone and talked for hours and there is a connection.
And I think a lot of that connection is seeped in the divine feminine and that desire, you know,
to let every woman know that they are special, no matter how old they are and whatever stage they're
in. And that's why you and I had got together. We talked about doing an episode with, you know,
the stages of not the triple goddess.
I don't know what we call it, the quadruple goddess.
The four phases of the feminine archetype.
And you think about it, four phases of the moon,
the four seasons, the four phases
of the hormonal cycle every month.
So the four, it does have a lot of symbolism. So
yeah, quadruple goddess, like the sun rises and sets, like that masculine energy. It's like that,
you know, you know what to expect, but with a woman, you never know where we're going to be.
You know, we dance across the sky, you have many phases, you know, we go through a lot as a woman, a lot of changes.
You know, I'm going through menopause, you know, you're moving into your, your third child. And
do you know if it's a girl or a boy? You don't have to share. No, I don't know yet. We're finding out
next week. We're going to the beach with my family. I'm so excited. I'm doing a gender reveal. It's
the first time like you've heard all the places I've lived.
It's the first time I've ever lived in my hometown being pregnant.
So I get to like be with my mom and be with my sisters and it's so special.
That is special.
What do you think though boy or girl?
I don't know.
I was thinking girl because for some reason I'm thinking triple goddess.
I have two girls and two boys. I really look forward to having grandchildren as well, especially
since my little one is 13. I'm like, it wouldn't surprise me that once you develop the space
that I have, that maybe you and Kobe may explore and be free again.
Cause that's what's interesting is that the in and out of this journey gives you
different opportunities.
And I have come to learn that I never hold on quite and say, I'm here forever,
or I'm doing this and I believe this forever because life isn't supposed to be
like that.
I think you've shown this with all the weaving
that you've done. You're designing of your own life, right? You know, I think that's the freedom
that we have now as women. We don't have to just stay within a box of what it should be.
Yeah, let's forget the box, break out of the box.
Be a rebel. Be a female rebel. Exactly. Well, I think often, you know, and it's evolved
a lot over time. So it's even evolving right now as I'm preparing to welcome another child.
What does that rebellion mean? Right? Because it can at the time when
I started, I was a maiden. So it had a lot to do with me claiming
my womanhood, you know, my girlhood, but my womanhood, like
it was that transition of like, kind of like, fuck the
patriarchy. But I mean, if I'm honest about it, that was a very
strong part of what I felt, because I broke out of the like,
I'm not going to work the nine to five, and I'm not going to do
the typical job. And I'm being led completely by my soul and my
intuition, which to the majority of humans looks insane. So I
really had to own my rebellion and like be empowered by it. And so,
you know, it came in in that way. But now when I think about rebellion as a mother, there's like a
softness to it. It's like actually not rebelling in that like rawr like warrior way. It's like,
yeah, like rebelling with softness, not trying to do everything, not trying to be
everything, not trying to fight a system at all. I'm like, I
don't need to fight that I just need to be who I am and be here
and present and loving for my family. And if that isn't a
rebellion in itself, because so often we
disconnect, we dissociate, we're kind of trained to do that in a lot of ways.
And I chose to do homeschool this year.
So the rebellions, it's always evolving.
And I'm curious what that will look like in other chapters. Like you said,
you know, you and Rajasri and
is it Anidaya who talks about Queen? So it's maiden mother
Queen, and then Crone? Yeah, okay. So where I learned about
the four, because I always heard maiden mother Crone, I think a
lot of people have heard that, but we haven't heard about this
very vital important
role which is you in the queen seat.
And so Miranda Grey, she teaches it's called moon mother and a friend of mine studied with
her.
And she came and taught a little workshop for my female rebels mama group. And I was just like bouncing out of my seat, the validation
that I felt, especially not just of like, okay, I've gone through two of those phases
as a woman. But the way that you go through those every month, like, whoa, this is one
of the blessings of teaching yoga, because because every week I can see where my intuition
is at.
I can see how language is coming out from the thoughts.
It's like a different way that it shows up when you're in those different phases.
And so you have like the sage where you're like, I feel like so dialed.
I feel like I'm just channeling and like ancestral grandmother wisdom.
It's like your grandmother self.
And then you transition into the maiden
and there's more playful
and you might have a little bit more energy.
And my yoga classes usually are a little bit more physical
at that, so it like has this expression.
But I, yeah, I just, I really love
that we have all of those in us all the time
and they're all available to us and that is something that I really really I think I missed
when I became a mom like I you know my maiden friendships got a little bit more distant
from me than I would have liked some of them. And then I had a few friends who hadn't had children yet who came into my
life really strongly. And they were really big pillars for me
and reminding me who I am because they were still in that
journey of like, that's their focus. And that's what they're
up to. And I just saw somebody just wrote an article and I
can't wait to read it about how in the depths of motherhood
It was their childless friends. They're maiden friends who?
reminded them who they are
And who I felt that I was like yes, amen like that is so true and our mother friends help us to
grow into mother and we're doing it together and we're
blooming and we're shedding and there's a beautiful book I think I mentioned it to you is called the
heroine's journey. So it's like the hero's journey you know Joseph Campbell wrote about that but
that's really like more masculine the heroine's journey has to do with traversing the underworld
masculine, the heroines journey has to do with traversing the underworld. And when we go through these really big
initiations in our life, these different thresholds of
womanhood, usually there's an underworld journey, there's a
little bit of that, like I'm going under and I'm releasing
what is no longer really needed for me in this next phase. And I come out reborn as this new, new same, okay, we're still who we are.
That that's why I said it's so important to know the core
essence of who you are, because it's that's the thread always
stays with you. But you go under and for me, okay, for me, I
really liked my life as a maiden.
I really liked my freedom.
I really liked my spontaneity.
I got to do whatever I wanted at the drop of a hat.
I really liked making plans at the last minute.
I don't really like planning things out
super far in advance.
I've had to let go of that.
I really liked my body back then too.
Yeah.
I really liked it.
Right?
Right, exactly.
Like so many things.
And especially like in the early years of motherhood,
if you're nursing or you're co-sleeping or whatever it is,
the babies are just so connected to your body.
So you're literally giving your body to another being.
That was hard for me.
I was like, what?
Like, what is going on?
Like full day, 24 hours a day, round the clock?
You want me to keep giving?
And I just, I didn't realize how much I would go take times
to myself, because I'm very social.
So I'd go out and be with people, but I took a lot of time to hermit. And then I'd go back out and then I would go take times to myself, because I'm very social. So I'd go out and be with people. But I took a lot of time to hermit.
And then I'd go back out. And then I would go hermit. But
with motherhood, you're really just like you are hermiting,
maybe from the world in a way, but not from your baby. You're
always being touched. You're always connecting, you're always
giving. And I had to traverse my journey into the
underworld to kind of like, let go and like stop fighting, stop, stop rebelling. Like this is not
working for you with this little soul. With that resistance can come this resentment.
Right. And I think that that's one thing as I've moved into this next phase, I noticed people around me who are desperately trying to hold on to that youthness.
I mean, they're they're like doing whatever they can to plump their face up to, you know, change their bodies to be younger.
You know, I think for myself, I've gone through this next phase a lot more gentleler than that than others because I'm embracing it.
And I really haven't resisted it. I really, I moved into this place where I can sense like
this wisdom and this space that I never had before. You know, and I like it. And it's definitely a different vibe. I mean, I was
in such a fast track life before. So for me, just to sit outside with nature and be able
to see every single bird that flies in the sky, you know, is something that I never was.
I didn't have time to notice that.
I was go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
So I think what I think it's so beautiful is that we can learn from each other, you
know, as we move through these phases.
It's so important whether you become an actual physical mother or not, there's still like
this time where you're birthing many things in your life, you know, that is that stage
of your life as you are the creatrix, right?
You're creating and creating, whether it's a career, you know, or whatever it is.
And you know, oftentimes we don't have that space.
And so it's interesting.
I had someone message me a few weeks ago, a student of mine, a Reiki student of mine.
And she said, you know, I'm trying to plan, you know,
into the future.
I would like to manifest, you know,
a business and this and that, you know, how could I do that?
And of course I was like, well,
I do have a book of like a bunch of witchy spells
you could try, but also what came to me was
go into meditation and ask your crone. Ask that version of yourself that you already are,
that you already have within yourself. She knows best. Like she already knows. and so connect with that wiser more experienced version
of you. I'm so excited for us to talk and have the conversation with my maiden
friend and we're gonna have me as the mother and you're going to be the queen
and I know that as the enchantress phase which I love because then I think of
like you with your cauldron and like just magical spells.
And I'm very excited for that chapter of life
because that's a big part of who I am.
And I wish I could like be in ceremony all day, every day.
Like, I just love it so much.
And then the sage or the crone,
and that's gonna be Rajasri.
Oh, I'm so excited.
That's gonna be such a powerful conversation. In yoga we're talking right now about
becoming and I saw this amazing woman based in Hawaii I think Rakayel I don't
know how you say her name she's incredible. She said she's studying
butterflies right now and she said the caterpillar does not create a chrysalis it becomes the chrysalis and I was like that is so
accurate because think about that and we we try to rush transformation like it
can take years it can it's not like this okay and so I could feel I've been
having that like I know it's coming I know I'm like it's not like this, okay? And so I could feel, I've been having that like,
I know it's coming.
I know I'm like, it's time to come out of the cocoon,
but it wasn't time yet.
But you still feel that like readiness coming
before it's there.
It's like, you can feel the timeline about to shift.
And so I'm so excited.
Like this conversation feels so perfectly timed
and also like an invitation to me because
so female rebels I've been craving I did the groups for the mamas but I've been craving to
go back to the roots which is having a container that has everybody it has the maidens it has the
mothers it has the Queens it has the Crohn, and female rebels attracts that like they all come in, I had women
that were all the way up to their late 70s, and a girl all
the way down to 18. Like, how cool is that? Like, what a
special thing. And so I'm like, I'm going back to the roots, and
I'm going to have a container, just female rebels, the original
concept is called illuminate.
And it's kind of like the start.
It's the start of like shining the light
and like coming back to that essence.
And it doesn't mean you're just starting your journey.
It means you might need a little reminder.
Like right now I'm like, let's do it.
Let's shine the light back on it
and like come back and become again.
Can I also recommend you now knowing as the mother that support and allowing other people
to lead rather than just yourself too.
You know what I mean?
That's hard for me asking for help and allowing other people to help me and all that.
But that's a that's a big part of, I think, all many women's journey to allow, you know, other women to
help. You know, my mom always asks to help my younger
daughters always are asking help. And I'm like, I got it. I
got it. I can do it all. That's a big one. So I think that, you
know, when all women get together, everyone has so much
wisdom to bring to the table.
I love that. Right from from the maiden all the way to the crone and all the beautiful in between.
Yeah, I feel very privileged to have met you and to be on this journey with you to introduce
the stages of a woman in our next episode with Raja Sriman. And I read this one time and it hit me.
So this little boy, he finds a cocoon
and he puts it in his room.
I'm gonna say a little girl, little girl finds a cocoon
and she puts it like on her dresser.
And she is so excited.
She's gonna watch the stage of this butterfly emerging.
And one day she sees the cocoon shaking.
And she's so excited about this.
And she's waiting.
And it just seems like this little butterfly is having such a hard time.
Right?
I mean, it's just struggling.
And she can see this.
And so she's like, you know what?
I'm just going to take my scissors and I'm just going to cut just just a little bit of the cocoon just to help it just a little bit.
And the butterfly finally does come out and its wings are shriveled and its legs are too weak to barely stand and it can't fly on its own. It needed to go through that struggle. It needed to go through all the
phases it's supposed to go through so it has enough strength to stand and to fly away
on its own independently. So it's a good reminder. And we do want to force that transformation
sometimes like you were saying, I want to force the trends, you know, we want to, we
want to get to that next stage, or maybe we want to resist it, that it's the struggle
or the effort that the butterfly has to create to break out of the cocoon that actually strengthens
its wings for it to survive. And if that isn't some beautiful symbolism right there of just like,
if that isn't some beautiful symbolism right there of just like, yeah, we need to go through, that's that underworld.
We need to go through in those really difficult times.
When we look back, we know this, but when we're in it, yeah, we resist it.
Of course we do.
You don't want to feel bad.
You don't want to feel disconnected from yourself, you know, all these things, but sometimes
there's something happening that's necessary for us to evolve into that next iteration
of ourself.
And it's not always pretty and it's not always pleasant.
Thank you so much for coming on and sharing your journey of how you became a rebel.
And I love it.
Tell everybody where they can find you, you know,
if they want to, you know,
just peek into this beautiful community.
Yeah.
So you can connect with me on socials.
You can connect with my business page,
which is under female underscore rebels on Instagram, or female rebels
on Facebook. And you can check out some of the offerings on the website. I'm going to have the
group coming up where it will be, you know, all of the women from the different archetypes. So
female rebels.com. And I'm also gonna have Threshold releasing soon for all the pregnant mamas.
I'm super excited.
And that's all self-studies.
That's my first ever self-study.
And you can connect with me just personally.
I share a lot on Kyla Walsh.
I'll be sharing my journey of welcoming my next little baby.
And my name is spelled a little bit different.
So make sure you check it C-H-Y A W A L S H. And yeah, I love
connecting with people. I really like build threads, you know,
like I stay with you, I stay connected. I'm very close with a
lot of the female rebels. It just develops over time that we
become sisters. And we're together in this and creating and doing a lot of
magic together. So I'm very excited to connect with you. And
maybe you can come and be a guest teacher like you were
talking about. I love that idea of having other people lead and
share their gifts. That's a huge part of the vision. She always
showed me female rebels like it's not just about
you but I need you to like lead the front and I was like okay you're perfect done. I love it love
it and thank you. I mean I can't wait to you know see you know what everything becomes and I know
that you and I will always stay connected. Yeah yeah I can't wait to chat with you with the other ladies. Yeah
Yep, connect with all the divine feminine that is rising and looking and hungry and hungry for conversations like that
So I like this. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, Kyla
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