Sense of Soul - The Legend of the Magical Mythical Unicorn

Episode Date: September 4, 2020

Shanna and Mande welcomed 
Alfonso Colasuonno, writer and co author of Magical Mythical Unicorn is an anthology of esoteric knowledge, myths, and legends about the most magical of beasts: the mythi...cal unicorn!  Join our discussion about this magical legend! Alfonso shares his relationship with co author Vakasha Brenman, who sadly passed away soon after the the book was completed, after she had researched the unicorn for over 20 years. All over the world people young and old are captivated by the magical legends and mythology of the Unicorn. Where did the Unicorn originate form? Was it real? The Unicorn's presence is recorded in history going back to the earliest times. Its known for its positive symbolism throughout the world and its appeared to such historical figures like, Genghis Khan, Confucius, Alexander the Great, and more. Lesrn more at Alfonsos website www.theunicornbook.com and on his fb page MagicalMythicalUnicorn Also we would love to thank Kenslee and the amazing psychic Lisa Allison former guest for their feedback. Find Lisa on fb Bliss Psychic Readings! RATE, REVIEW & SUBSCRIBE! Visit us at www.mysenseofsoul.com

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Sense of Soul podcast. We are your hosts, Shanna and Mandy. Grab your coffee, open your mind, heart, and soul. It's time to awaken. Today we have a very magical topic to talk about. We welcome Alfonso Colasuono. He joins us to talk about his book, The Magical and Mystical Unicorn, a unique anthology and esoteric knowledge, myths and legends. And he wrote this with the late Vakasha Brennan. And this book explores the history and the importance of the unicorn around the world across many cultures and spiritual traditions. Thanks for being with us, Alfonso. Oh, it's great to be with you too. We're excited to have you. What a fun topic. Absolutely. I would expect a book on unicorns to be written by like Katy Perry. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:00:51 we're seeing a lot of the unicorn come back into pop culture. And a lot of it is, you know, kind of fun. And I don't want to be judgmental, but you can even say trivial. But there's actually a lot of truth to the unicorn story. And yeah, for those who want to delve more into it, the Book of the Magical Mythical Unicorn, I think is an amazing introduction to it. I went to a unicorn festival like a few years ago, so it is definitely coming back. Yeah, I mean, that's one of the things that my co-author, Vekasha Brennan, said. She started this project back in the 1990s. She had a great researcher, a woman by the name of Artis Boyd, found amazing stuff from the Rosicrucian, Manly Hall's
Starting point is 00:01:32 Philosophical Research Society Library, and many other places, but she just couldn't find the right writer, and the project was tabled for a long time. And over the last few years, around 2015, when she started seeing the unicorn come back into the popular imagination she knew it was time to find a good rider and i don't know if she found one but she found me i was really really psyched to do it because i've been interested in a lot of things about paranormal supernatural the esoteric and had some good information on a lot of things but the unicorn was kind of a black hole in terms of not knowing much about it at all.
Starting point is 00:02:09 And what I thought I knew was pretty much wrong. So it was a real educational opportunity and to work with someone amazing on a project that seemed really cool. Yeah, it was definitely something that I really wanted to do once I heard about it. Vakasha, she's done some spiritual documentaries. Yeah, I mean, such an inspiration.
Starting point is 00:02:29 I mean, the woman is a total badass. One of my favorite stories about Vakasha is she had brought a bunch of her friends, Lee Hanks, Fannie Gersecker, and this other guy over to Egypt. And she reached, you know, the guards at the pyramids. She was being shot at by Egyptian guards. No way. Going into the pyramids to investigate. Fearless woman. We talked about, you know, if we could get the production money raised to do a series of documentaries together. But unfortunately, she passed away this May. It's a shame. I'm really sorry that she passed. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:05 She left behind this great book that you and her got to write together. She was researching since the 90s. Yeah, I mean, the unicorn has been kind of her life's passion. I mean, she went in two different directions, off-Broadway production, like you said, the spiritual documentaries. But the unicorn is always her biggest drive. She started a nonprofit, the Unicorn Archive. But yeah, it just wasn't the time is what Vekasha always told me back in the 90s or any time before. It just wasn't the time to release what we
Starting point is 00:03:36 feel is the true story of the unicorn. Finally does it and then she dies. It's almost like she fulfilled her purpose and then she was done yeah i mean i think that's probably the way it went i believe just generally that when we have fulfilled everything that we're set out to do in this life yeah i mean we we go yeah i agree just from working with her on the book magical mythical unicorn throughout those years writing it and then editing it and getting it ready for publication it It was just amazing, her ability, her work ethic to just get this done, you know, in partnership with me, even with all her physical challenges, her medical challenges. And the woman could barely walk by the last couple of years I knew her. And she just did
Starting point is 00:04:20 whatever it took. I'm a big basketball fan. I've been watching The Last Dance about Michael Jordan. And she kind of had that same killer instinct that Jordan had, just whatever it takes. It was just such an inspiration. It's like she gifted it to you and she passed away before it was finished? The book had already been written and edited. So we were just in the state of our publisher, John Hunt Publishing, you know, getting it ready for release. On terms of our end, we didn't really have anything else to do. The book was complete. Yeah, I guess Vakasha must have felt that her purpose was completed. You know, we channeled this book. And I guess, you know, when things are over, it's over. Mandy and I, we face a lot of the things that we talk about on this
Starting point is 00:05:01 podcast. If like, if we don't know anything about it, we're like, oh, we're just telling you, we don't know shit, but we're going to be talking about it, but we don't know. And we, you know, we're all about, I think that this is part of the journey for us that we've learned to live by our experiences instead of just believing everything we've been told, because that's basically what we had done while asleep rather than awakened. So I must ask you, I mean, a unicorn, it's not something that we see today or go to the zoo and check out. So if you could please share with us how you discovered that this was something that you could actually write about and that maybe convinced people to have more of an open mind about.
Starting point is 00:05:50 One of the quotes that I live by, and I learned this from Bacasha, is you cannot deny what you see with your own eyes. I've always been kind of a little bit of a doubting Thomas, even being interested in these kinds of topics. So when Bacasha and I first started work on the book, The Magical Mythical Unicorn, she told me that some people who go to her house are known to have encounters with the unicorn. And I didn't know her very well at the time. So I was like, you know what, she's new and I like her. So I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna be a sarcastic little
Starting point is 00:06:21 shit here. You know, but I took it with a grain of salt and lo and behold about a week to 10 days into working with Akasha on this book in her apartment in New York City I go to bed pretty early like really early for me it must have been about 10 at night and I wake up three hours later it was not lucid dreaming i didn't hit the bottle of old granddad too hard i was totally sober and wide awake i wake up three hours later and i start seeing the unicorn's horn materialize in thin air spiraled multi-colored and i can watch that for the next day and she's like yep are you are you still doubtful right? And I had only had one other supernatural event before that. I've had none since with the, earliest civilizations, whether it's Samaria, in Egypt, in the Indus Valley civilizations, in China, they all are talking about something called the unicorn. And damn it, I mean, there's got to be something to it. I mean,
Starting point is 00:07:35 you know, I could understand if it was just in Britain, or just in China. If one people are talking about something, you know, okay, maybe it's just their thing and maybe, you know, there's some sort of pride to it or a delusion. But when you have cultures all across the world, especially in Europe, Asia, and Africa, the thing with the same properties, a lot of the evidence, you know, it's lost to time. But there are some records that we've consulted. You know, we have a massive work site in the back of our book. And yeah, there are some sources to this day that we relied on. And we found a lot of new information just from, I mean, Google is a magical thing. I mean, we just found every permutation that you could find.
Starting point is 00:08:20 We found a lot of new information that had never been told about the unicorn ever before. And so, yeah, we really feel that we captured the entirety of the unicorn's story. And, you know, I'm a writer. Vakash was an amazing creative. But it wasn't us. The unicorn was telling its story through us. Okay. For whatever reason, we were just the lucky two that it chose.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Do you think that people are seeing it physically or do you think that it's more like this like a clairvoyant experience with the unicorn or do you think there actually was a physical unicorn i think that there is a physical unicorn but it doesn't show up very often i mean it's not like y'all said earlier, it's not something you can just go to the zoo and see. We found that there's a lot of different historical figures who have seen physically the unicorn. And these are not spiritually enlightened individuals or people who've made it their goal in life to ascend. I mean, hell, Julius Caesar saw a unicorn on a military expedition in Germany.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Genghis Khan, I mean, no one is going to say this guy is spiritual. I mean, the guy just, you know, ravaged much of Asia, Eastern Europe, and the Middle East. He didn't go to India because he saw the unicorn at the mountains in the Himalayas, Mount Jatunari. And he felt that it was a message from the unicorn saying, do not invade India. And so he didn't. I mean, even big skeptics like, you know, Leibniz, the philosopher and mathematician who thought that the unicorn was ludicrous, when he found a unicorn skeleton in his native Germany, he wasn't a skeptic anymore. So there's a lot of historical figures have seen it. And individuals today can see the unicorn. I mean, if you come with a pure intention, it's possible that the unicorn would reveal itself to you.
Starting point is 00:10:10 It's also possible you might just get telepathic messages or other ways of it communicating with you. What across the board were you seeing that was very common about the different myths and legends of the unicorn? I mean, just the fact that the unicorn is always treated in a positive way by those who truly understand it, by cultures and individuals that understand the unicorn and its purpose, talking about spiritual sight, talking about healing, especially as an anti-poison. So whether I'm a spiritual dimension or even on the temporal with physical healing and things like that, just always beneficial things to humanity and working as a guide. These were cross-cultural, you know, whether in the Assyrian tradition, the Babylonian, Chinese, Indian, Egyptian, Sudanese, you know, British. These were all very, very common.
Starting point is 00:11:06 And, you know, just like anything else, each culture has their own unique spin on it. It's almost like a game of telephone. But at the same time, you know, it's still the same creature. You know, there were a few times where when the unicorn was new to people, they might have misunderstood it. Or, you know, there were some political challenges that sought to discredit the unicorn and spread negative information to people. But that's stuff that we tried to minimize from the book, and this is absolutely essential,
Starting point is 00:11:34 just because we wanted to tell the unicorn story, not the story of people who may have misunderstood it. The research that you did, I have to say, really impressed me. I mean, we're talking about India, China, East Asia, the Middle East, ancient Greece, Europe, Africa. I mean, I was like, holy crap, you researched into the art, the poetry. I mean, it was fascinating how much you found on the unicorn globally. It was like, wow. I was so impressed by the research. I wanted to say there was one thing that really stuck out to me that I loved in your bio. The book is to display the transformative
Starting point is 00:12:11 energy of the creature and its larger effect on humanity's consciousness. Can you explain what you mean by that? If you look at where we are in 2020, you know, I think you'd have to be really, really optimistic to describe it as anything other than chaotic. If you look at, you know, where we are economically or, you know, with COVID-19, you know, just devastating, you know, the U.S. and much of the world, you know, it's a chaotic time. We believe from some of the documents that we found that these kinds of chaotic times that we're in right now, you know, all these things that we're seeing is this kind of disruption is part of a sign that the unicorn is on its way to a full reemergence. You know, like in the past, it may have come to Genghis Khan or to a certain group of people. But there were also cultures where, you know, even with our painstaking research, we found almost nothing about the unicorn. And like, for example, South America, we only found a few cave drawings in Argentina, three different ones, and nothing else in the entire region about the unicorn. Did you happen to see that it was more
Starting point is 00:13:22 around in a certain time period i'm just curious that's a great question pretty consistent really from about the earliest known human civilization around 4 000 uh you know before the common era to about 1800 the unicorn was very consistent in its presence and the last 200 years or so it's kind of retreated from the public eye you know there's no stories as far as I know, in terms of noteworthy figures, you know, there's nothing in the last 200 years. Hey, maybe now your book will encourage people to start talking about like, yeah, you know what, I think I did. You know, maybe, I mean, there's also a lot of skepticism in our age, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:00 it's a very scientific age. Something that Bakashi and I always would talk about is, you know, what we call an anti-scientific mindset, because I think, you know, you know, it's a very scientific age. Something that Vakash and I always would talk about is, you know, what we call an anti-scientific mindset, because I think, you know, you can't just automatically believe everything you hear. And even for readers of the Book of the Magical Myth of the Unicorn, do the research yourself and try to, you know, make contact with the unicorn. Don't just believe it, because I'm saying it. Back to the energy of the creature and its effect on humanity's consciousness. It seems mostly positive. Is that what you discovered as well? Yeah, absolutely. The unicorn is definitely a friend of humanity and will help people. And it definitely has our best interest in mind.
Starting point is 00:14:37 And I think one of the stories that really shows this, you know, right here, you know, I call a schoolhouse earth. And there's many great experiences that I've had that everyone has in life. But there's also a lot of hardship. I mean, who in life hasn't had challenges and things that really wear at your soul? I mean, that's part of the human experience. Now, the unicorn was at a higher dimensional vibration, you know, with the creator and in this Edenic paradise with the first man, the first woman. And the creator gave the this Edenic paradise with the first man, the first woman, and the creator gave the unicorn a choice. You know, the creator said you could either stay here in this higher dimension
Starting point is 00:15:11 and enjoy that bliss or, you know, you can become an interdimensional creature. When humanity needs you, when we need the unicorn, then it could come back down and transfer dimensionally into our reality and help either an individual a culture or humanity as a whole and it made that choice it didn't have to the creator gave it a choice it could have said you know what these people are kind of fucked up i'm cool here uh you know in the dimension with you creator we'll let them learn from their experiences maybe they'll come join us eventually in you know know, billions of years. But no, it said, yes, I love you, Maddie, so much that if you need me, I can come back into your dimension and help. And it's done just that throughout our history. So Mandy had asked her youngest daughter what she thought of unicorns, and she thought they
Starting point is 00:16:02 were magical. And she thought about rainbows and I just love the innocence of a child. Yes. You know they're a little less conditioned with a little less ego. Yeah. I also asked my daughter who is a little bit older she used to love unicorns so much especially she loved alicorns. Oh okay Yeah. And I also contacted our good friend and former guest, Lisa Allison from Scotland. I know that there's a connection between Scotland and unicorns. I wanted to ask where she thought the unicorns originated. And she left us a message. So I'd like to play them both.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Please do. I did ask my guides, Shanna, earlier on and they did say that unicorns are universal. They actually reside in Arcturian, okay? And Arcturius, that's where they reside because that is an aquatic planet. So where I'm from and where I originate is mermaids, mermen, dolphins, unicorns, all your
Starting point is 00:17:06 magical elementals actually come from Arcturus because that is the gateway. So if you put that to them, I wonder what you think about that. It's an energy gateway. That is the tunnel of light of life and death and birth. And I hope to speak to you soon. I love you, girl.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And now I'll play a clip of Kensley's answer, my daughter, my youngest daughter. Sure, give it a go. So Kensley, you know a lot about unicorns, don't you? Yeah, my favorite animal used to be a horse, and then I started to learn about unicorns and then avocords and pegasus and all of that. Since that, I really liked unicorns. They're really different in a good way. And they're really different from a horse. A unicorn is more unique. Yep, you used to like them a whole lot.
Starting point is 00:17:53 You especially liked them. A special kind of unicorn, though, didn't you? Yeah, I like alicorns. And alicorns have, like, a horn, obviously, and wings. So it's kind of a mix of a unicorn and a pegasus so like if there was two animals that like mixed together to make a unicorn i mean was it like a rhinoceros and a horse no no what what would it be uh well in my opinion like this is just what I pictured in my mind. Dinosaurs. Maybe that and, like, a horse. So you think that it might be prehistoric?
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah. Because I feel like all of the animals that were different, like dragons or dinosaurs or anything like that, I feel like they were all together and I feel like they made each other or something. Oh, okay. But maybe all those animals that we're not so familiar with today were all back then. Yeah, there's a lot of animals that's really similar to animals that are extinct. Okay. So what other animals?
Starting point is 00:18:59 So you said dragons, unicorns, dinosaurs. Maybe aliens. Okay, so you think maybe aliens were back then as well yeah and i also think that there's some animals that we don't really know about oh that we haven't even discovered yeah more animals in the world than we have now. Interesting what Kempley said. I mean, I think it kind of coincides with what your guest said as well. You know, there's a lot of creatures. I mean, not just the unicorn, but if you look at, you know, the phoenix, the dragon,
Starting point is 00:19:36 you know, even in Islamic tradition in the Quran, the Barak, which was a horse with wings that guided the Prophet Muhammad, you know, to what was essentially seventh heaven. You know, there's a lot of creatures that, you know, most people at least don't see today. You know, Bigfoots as well. Aliens. You know, I did see a UFO, but I didn't see any extraterrestrials. So could all of these be from a different planet or from a different time on our planet or both absolutely we know so little about so much you know so there's so much discovery i mean i hope in our lifetime not just with the unicorn but uh you know with all these creatures and and
Starting point is 00:20:17 really delve into the truth that we as a species can just keep searching for the truth that's why again like if people know stuff about the unicorn that is just not in our book, I don't think that we have any misrepresentations, but if there are, and you think you know it, just start a conversation with me. I'm around. Unicornbook.com, there's a contact form.
Starting point is 00:20:38 Getting towards this new golden age. I mean, there's a lot of stuff going on right now. It's pretty... Yeah. The same way about aliens. Like what you said about the unicorns. I mean, you have cultures all over the world from the beginning of time, depicting these writings, these drawings, the stories, and this, this, and that. I mean, there's got to be some truth into it. There's got to be. I think so. I mean, again, just going back to things that you see with your own eyes, you can't deny.
Starting point is 00:21:06 Other than the unicorn horn, the only other experience that I can absolutely without a doubt say was, you know, outside of the usual five senses, was when I saw a cube-like UFO just over the skies of New York City. It would dim out, fade out into nothingness on a very slow pace, and then reemerge without any movement. I know a lot of people have seen UFOs. It zips around at high speeds. This one didn't. It just stayed stationary and faded out into the clouds and then reemerged almost like a dimmer switch.
Starting point is 00:21:37 I don't know if there were ETs in there or anything like that, but yeah, you can't unsee what you see. And whatever skeptic says, you know, it's bunk because there's something to it. I mean, if there's not like actual proof, people just put it into the debunk bag, you know, and it's like in my near death experiences in life, the society and the world tried to take away my experiences from me by telling me it wasn't true. They almost started to brainwash me into not trusting myself. When I found that self-love and said, no, I'm not allowing you to take away my experiences because my experiences are worth more than any words that people can tell me to believe. That's when I really opened myself up to the rest of the beautiful world, the spiritual world and the unknown. And when you have a connection to something, you should really pay attention to that.
Starting point is 00:22:28 A connection for a child to a unicorn. I mean, why dim that light? Let them have those connections and those experiences. I think that we often put it in categories of this is weird or make-believe or this is your imagination. You know, and I don't want to get too conspiratorial here, but if things like this are happening from society and, you know, just really throughout many cultures,
Starting point is 00:22:54 maybe even most, you know, today, you know, you've got to wonder, there's a reason for everything. So, you know, whether it's the dimming light of the unicorn or any other creature or any sort of spiritual or connection to ascension our world is um operates on terms of balance so for those in the light there's also a great amount of darkness and you know so things that could help us not just on the individual but the collective level ascend you know there's going to be some pushback against it a lot of it just
Starting point is 00:23:24 comes from skepticism and investigate yourself if you're curious don't just automatically deny something just because you haven't experienced it or seen it because a lot of us and that's what i thought is weird is that you said it's been over 200 years look back at what's happened over 200 years i mean we started to be controlled by, many powers around the world that have now led to some serious fricking conditions on people that they don't even know to trust themselves, or even that they even have a self that they can connect to. It might be a little bit of a controversial viewpoint, but I think technology and really
Starting point is 00:23:59 industrial revolution is one of the worst things ever happened to humanity because everything just becomes so automated and and you know we're not machines we're not robots vakasha would always tell me like you got to get rid of your programming because you know we're all part of a culture so we all have part of it you know working on the book of magical mythical unicorn with her i learned a great deal especially the unicorn, but also about many other things. But I unlearned more than I learned from her. And I think we all need to a lot of what we've been programmed. And, you know, like one of the things that we feature in our book, you know, we kind of just hinted this a little bit, but towards that ascension, towards your personal growth and towards all of our personal growth and ascension, a lot of it comes from that unlearning and from getting rid of that program.
Starting point is 00:24:49 And, you know, that's not an easy task. You know, when you've been indoctrinated to things as our school system, religious institutions, businesses, governments, they're all indoctrinating you towards one view of things. So it's hard to go against it. I mean, it's hard to be that lone voice in the wilderness. And another thing Shannon and I just recently realized is also the symbolism throughout your life, especially when you were young, that subconsciously creates the world you live in. All the symbolism that you see throughout the streets, the TV, necklaces, earrings, you name it. It's creating subconsciously your belief system. So it's also not only learning to unlearn things, but it's also like Shanna said yesterday so beautifully, it's creating a space
Starting point is 00:25:38 within yourself and connecting with your soul to override your subconscious that you've learned. Yeah, I think that's a great way to put this. And you know, we're, we're all co-creating. Let's create something better. You know, let's not go backwards. Let's go forward. So I wanted to just add really fast. My daughter said, mom, I used to see unicorns. I quit seeing them like when I was like two or three years old. And I was like, Oh, that's weird that she said that yeah wow you know the children like y'all said earlier children have just such a pure essence to them that they can see a lot of things that you know really by the teenage years and definitely into adulthood we're all programmed
Starting point is 00:26:18 and you know even even the most enlightened of us you know it's still a constant battle to fight against that skepticism and indoctrination so So the children don't have that. I mean, they're pure and it's wonderful that that magical, you know, feeling. So I think children definitely see the unicorn more often than adults. And it makes sense why, just like many other magical and mystical experiences, be more likely to have it than when you're, you know, in your 30s or 40s or, you know, even 20s or teens. You don't got that ego in there telling you that you're crazy. Yeah, you're crazy. That's not the way things go. That's not how things are. You're just all about the magic. Yeah, I think it's a better way to live. Absolutely. Last night, I was just inspired to call up and interview a bunch of people about what they thought a unicorn was.
Starting point is 00:27:07 We had really cool conversations about something that normally we would never think about. So your book really inspired it. And I will tell you that when you are even talking about a unicorn, it's like your vibration raises because it's just a good thing to feel and talk about. It's a happy thing. And you're never going to come across someone that says, oh, the unicorn symbolizes shitty times or anger. You know, I mean, my young daughter said magic. My college said grace.
Starting point is 00:27:40 He said grace in his mind. Yeah. And then, you know, my 80-year-old father, he had to ponder on it for a minute. He said it made him feel playful and childish and happy in the moment. So what a cool topic. Yeah. It's really cool that you said that because through the course of writing and editing the book of Magical Mythical Unicorn, i basically split time between uh baltimore where i live and with her in new york city sometimes when life just gets a little shitty and i go back to new york and the energy the unicorn energy that permeated her apartment uh her home it always
Starting point is 00:28:19 brought me back to center so you know whatever whatever drama was going on in my life or anything like that, it really did have that magic, that grace and that playfulness, you know, and it brought all those things back into me, even when life, you know, scared me slightly off center or off course, or even, even wildly off course. It's just a wonderful energy. One part of your book that really captured me, you talked about the white feather. Kasia Bredman, she had mobility issues in her later years. For all of the five years that I knew her, her friend, a wonderful woman from Germany, this woman named Marion, was taking her in a wheelchair to Central Park in New York City.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And on the way there, she saw a large white feather, no birds, nothing of the sort, you know, it matched to. And she saw the unicorn's feather and to her dying day, she kept it exhibited in her apartment. The unicorn can show itself in many different ways. And a white feather is one of the ways that it can show that you're alerted to its presence. A lot of people talk about a white feather representing like an angel or a guy, especially during hard times or health problems or when someone's getting ready to pass away. So that's really cool.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Okay, I loved, I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that will love this. I'm not a July birthday. The Celts had like an astrological system and they included the unicorn and this is zodiac sign like wow you know how many people out there would be like so thrilled to hear that they have a unicorn sign yeah the ancient celts had a very close relationship with the unicorn uh you know while they were still scattered throughout europe yeah and they actually had an astrological system you know today you know, you know, people might be Aries or Leo or whatever. The unicorn was part of their unique zodiac system, and they had an entire time period from fairly early into July to early August that
Starting point is 00:30:17 was associated with the unicorn. Now, that was just something we found through the research, just to take it in a different direction. You know, there's nine references in the King James Version of the Bible to the unicorn being compared to the Lord and the Lord's power. So there's a lot of people both within Judeo-Christian faith and outside who use that to discredit scripture. Are there people who, for whatever reason, want to suppress the unicorn and its energy and keep it hidden? Sure,? Sure. That's interesting that it's just King James Bible. The unicorn only found in that Bible. Yeah. So there's definitely traditions of the unicorn in King James, the King James of the Bible, who had experiences with the unicorn. And one of my favorites, if you have a dark sense of humor like I do, there was a widespread practice, especially in Europe around the time of King James in the 16th century, 17th century, of people, especially royalty, using part or whole unicorn horns to test food and drink to see if it had been poisoned. Around this time, basically, political rivals and even family
Starting point is 00:31:25 members would use poison a lot to get people out of the way. It makes our modern political system look like tiddlywinks in comparison. King James actually had one of his servants test what he thought was the unicorn horn in drink, and the servant ended up dead. So there was actually, unfortunately, a lot of fake unicorn horn on the market that obviously didn't work because it was fake. It didn't have anything, any connection to the unicorn. But King James had a deep love of the unicorn and trusted it. And I mean, when you're in royalty, you know, there's a lot of people gunning for you for various reasons, especially back in that time. It just shows the power that he had towards the unicorn.
Starting point is 00:32:04 There are other Bible versions that also translated as the unicorn, but there's also some that translated in different ways. I mean, I just know that a lot of people certainly put the King James Version of the Bible as the most authoritative version. And I think the thing that they chose the unicorn, they're just like the Septuagint. The people who originally translated the scriptures into Greek
Starting point is 00:32:23 also used the unicorn. So there's a lot of people who originally translated the scriptures into Greek also used the unicorn. So there's a lot of people who would say that the unicorn is what it actually is. Other translations, at least in this case, are wrong. King James, he was the king of Scotland too. So that must be why there's a connection to Scotland there. And King James also was responsible for reconstructing the Bible and removing many chapters of the Bible. Also, as you were talking about the poison and the unicorns, this is also the time where witches were definitely being pointed out, being accused of poison and whatnot.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Yeah, it is definitely an interesting time. Did King James modify scriptures in various ways? Yeah, I mean, but this is a tradition that goes way back, even before Christendom was widely accepted. It was still a wrong religion. Origen, one of the original Christian scholars, had doctrines of reincarnation. And if you look at like the Gnostic scriptures,
Starting point is 00:33:15 these are not in most people's Bible, King James or otherwise. You know, so the question is, what gets accepted and what's not? I mean, hell, if you have the power to decide it, then, you know, your agenda can take precedence over the truth. And that's not just with the unicorn or with scripture, but with everything. I mean, think about, you know, the word history, his story. Yes, in some ways it's the truth, but you know, everything is always a matter of
Starting point is 00:33:40 perspective. What if the unicorn though, because I'm thinking about this. Were they called different things around the world? It's like a hybrid of two different animals. What is your opinion on that? Well, yeah, the unicorn has a lot of different names across the world. You know, for example, in the Middle East, the unicorn is not called the unicorn. It's called the Karkadam. In China, it's called the Keelan. India, it's called the Risha. It's like a hybrid of two different animals. What is your opinion on that? There's a chelan. In India, it's called a risha. It's like a hybrid of two different animals. What is your opinion on that? There's a lot of comparisons I saw with the rhinoceros, with horses, with hippopotamuses, which I thought was kind of... Even though, like, whether in combination or otherwise, the unicorn I saw just generally from the course of researching this book,
Starting point is 00:34:23 it was always generally not seen so much as a combination of two animals or more animals, but its kind of own separate entity. Most cultures kind of understood it as separate. But it's a horse, isn't it? I mean, it's a horse, no? You know, it looks most similar to a horse, but that horn, you know, that one horn is very distinct. And also, like, just from visual depictions, you know, some people also get a little curious, like, is there just one unicorn or are there multiple? And there's multiple unicorns.
Starting point is 00:34:55 And in different cultures, sometimes they do look I'm not a trained artist, it almost looks a little bit more like a lion with the unicorn tradition. Others, it looks much more like a horse just with that one horn. And then others have a little bit of their own unique spin. Visually, it's a creature that goes interdimensionally. So I don't think you can confine it to one physical form, you know, especially on the higher dimensions. But because it cares for us and knows us, you know, if it looks wildly different from what our expectations were, you know, humanity, unfortunately, a lot of us have a fear of the unknown. So if the unicorn chose to present itself in a totally different way, it might have led to more harm just because of fear of something that was outside of expectations or didn't look similar. I saw a while back about a Siberian unicorn that was actually found and proved that 29,000 years ago, it was on earth and it had the horn and it had the fur, but they found it.
Starting point is 00:36:05 And I was like, holy crap, that's huge. Yeah. When we found that information, we were stunned because, you know, it's one thing if you hear something from a historical record of one particular individual's experience, you know, even with all the numerous examples that we have in our book, there's certainly a human error to anything. But, you know, when you see a reputable source talking about something,
Starting point is 00:36:30 especially in our modern and skeptical age, you know, yeah, it's a really cool feeling to see this kind of documentation. I will say that it's kind of like when you buy a new car and you go out on the road and you see your car everywhere. So since I started reading your book, there's been fucking unicorns everywhere. A little bit of synchronicity, but also just a little bit of more awareness and stuff. And I had the same experience when I first met Vekasha.
Starting point is 00:36:57 I started seeing the unicorn everywhere. And I don't recall even hearing anything about it at all know, before I met her and started hearing about this project. And then, you know, we agreed to work with each other. So, but also just, yeah, the unicorn's time is coming. It's emerging. Can you do your next book on Sasquatch? Are you planning on maybe looking into other ones? I just think it's fun.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I'd love to. I mean, I don't exactly know what the future holds in store. I like to let the universe guide just think it's fun. I'd love to. I mean, I don't exactly know what the future holds in store. I like to let the universe guide me to whatever's right. And it always has done just that. I think one of the really interesting traditions that I found from just working with Fakasha on this book is a Chinese legend of how the universe was created. And the unicorn was working with the creator, who they pangu with in tandem not just with pangu the creator but with the phoenix uh with the tortoise and also with the dragon so you know without the five of them working together uh you know in the chinese tradition
Starting point is 00:37:58 uh there would be no universe they chipped away at the nothingness to create our world and so you know the dragon i don't know i mean yeah my initial instinct is you know it's a fearsome creature one that i wouldn't want to have an appearance uh you know no energy than the unicorn but the chinese you know they used the dragon as a source of creation yeah did they just drop the unicorn it seems very significant no in china actually uh the unicorn or as they call it the keyling has been a huge part of their of their culture actually sure it definitely has a more unique uh depiction like i think probably through the course of writing this more than any other culture the keyland the chinese unicorn looks a little bit different so a lot of people
Starting point is 00:38:44 i mean hell if I saw it at first before knowing all the research and all this, I might have thought it was a unicorn. But yeah, it is. Where can our listeners find your book? Everyone can find it on Amazon. Just type in the Book of the Magical Mythical Unicorn, amazon.com, walmart.com. Just go to your preferred place and you can pick up a copy. Our original release date was supposed to be August 28th. I think it might've been pushed back because of COVID to October 1st. But you can pre-order it today. So definitely pick up a copy. Really appreciate all of your time today.
Starting point is 00:39:19 It's a lot of fun. Thank you for the book, for doing that, and your co-author. It was such a pleasure to read about something that I never would have chose to look into. So thank you for that. Absolutely. Good luck on your book launch. Oh, thank you so much. Yeah, again, this is a lot of fun. Had a wonderful time here. Thank you. What about Bigfoot? Would Bigfoot be back then as well? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, why not? Yeah, I mean, I don't want him being left out. Absolutely not. Thank you.
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