Sense of Soul - Three Time Near Death Experience Survivor

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

Today on Sense of Soul we have Michelle Clare she’s a Certified Medium, Psychic, Energy Healer, Life Coach and frequent speaker/ show guest. Michelle also works as a research medium for the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS). She connects to Spirit to provide people with profound, detailed life insights.  In this episode Michelle shares her spiritual journey into mediumship through her 3 Near Death Experiences (NDE’s). In 11-year span - April 2000, May 2006 and a pivotal event in November 2011 that resulted in a traumatic brain injury. These pivotal events expanded her own awareness and fueled her desire to help others. Learn more about Michelle and her work at her website below. www.michelleclare.net Follow her journey on IG @medium_michelle_clare  Check out Sense of Soul and the Network of Lightworkers affiliates at www.senseofsoulpodcast.com

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Today we have with us Michelle Clare. She is a certified medium, angel intuitive, a spiritual coach, energy healer, and three-time near-death experience survivor. She receives messages from loved ones who have crossed over, as well as angels and life guides. And she's with us today to share her story. So please welcome Michelle Clare. Hello, hello. Hi, how are you? Good. How are you? I'm great. Good morning. Where are you joining me from? I'm in Phoenix. Where are you? I'm in Colorado. Okay. Well, I'm happy to be here. Thanks for having me. Yeah. You know, your story reminds me much of my best friend who used to be my co-host for three years, but she's still my best friend. She didn't retire from best friend. Well, that's good. Yeah. But she's a three-time Indie as well. Yeah.

Amazing. It is. I mean, there's a lot of people that have had one or two, but once you start getting up to three and four, there's not as many. I know. It's like, how many lives? Nine lives? Pretty amazing. But I'm excited to hear your story and see how it brought you to where you are today. So I was actually raised Catholic. So I really was raised to believe that I had angels and saints and all of these beings of light that wanted to help me on my way. If my dog was sick, I'd pray to St. Francis or, you know, things like that. And so in that way, the Catholic religion really set me up with a good foundation because I always believed I had a team of beings of light,

which is what I'd call them now, that want to help me. My first challenge with the Catholic religion was in first grade when my dog died and my Sunday school teacher told me, well, your dog didn't go to heaven. It doesn't have a soul. And I was crushed. So that was really the first time at a young age where I said, wait, what? Because I truly felt like I knew crushed. So that was really the first time at a young age where I said, wait, what? Because I truly felt like I knew differently. I knew my dog had made it to heaven. I knew my dog had this personality and this light in it. So that was really how I was raised. And then when I was 13, my grandfather transitioned. And when he passed away, what I realized is that he and I were still communicating. And I would share that with my mom. And my mom would say, well, that's what you think he would say if he was still here. So I realized not everybody was still talking to grandpa.

And with that, I just kind of learned to keep that relationship to myself. A few years later, my grandmother transitioned. We had the exact same experience where I was getting messages, sharing them with my mom. And my mom would say, well, that's kind of what you think grandma would say. So that was really the basis of where this went. I didn't know this was mediumship. I just knew I was still in communication with my loved ones, that it wasn't scary, that I could feel them around. And then when I come up to the year 2000, I'm married at this point in time. I have no kids, but newly married. We had been married about four years and I ended up having my first near-death experience.

So when I have this near-death experience, it's in April of 2000, and I'm actually already in a hospital conveniently when this happens because my sister-in-law had had a baby that day. So I was standing in the hallway talking to our RN, who happened to be my friend from high school, and while I'm having this conversation with her, I have a massive seizure. And what I remember is nothing of the seizure. I just remember talking to my friend and then opening my eyes and I am laying in my grandma's lap and I'm looking up at her and she is the youngest, most beautiful version of her that I could remember. The walls, I was in this room and it appeared to have white walls. And in these walls, they were almost like alive, even though they seemed solid.

And every cell or molecule was radiating this light and love from it. And I remember this is the first time that I had this timeless experience and this unconditional blissful love all around me. And so while I was laying there with my head in my grandma's lap, I looked up and I noticed that next to her was a 12-foot angel. And this angel was huge, magnificent, just felt drawn into her energy or her presence. And I remember thinking that I wanted to see her feather wings. So as I went to look for her feather wings, what I realized is they were actually made of light. And they were translucent and iridescent, and they seemed to almost span eternity. They were so stunning. And I remember then thinking, what is your name? And this was all in my head. And she answered me. She said, my name's Madeline.

I'm one of your guardian angels. And I was surprised because I didn't know about telepathic communication. I believed I had a guardian angel, but I didn't know they could speak telepathically, nor did I know what that was. And so at this point in time, I'm truly just laying in this blissful place, this timeless space, and really soaking it all in. The next thing I know, I hear someone yelling, code, code. And I had quit breathing. And since I was already in the hospital, they had called the code team.

So the next thing I know, I am shoved back into my body. And my body felt so heavy and so dense, felt like my arm weighed 500 pounds. And I knew I had had this extremely vivid experience, more vivid than our daily life. But I didn't know what it was called. I didn't know the term near-death experience. These were just things that weren't in my world at that point in time. So it took me a few weeks to really share that with my mom. By the way, they never found out

what exactly caused the seizure. I've never had one before that or after. And a few weeks later, I shared this with my mom. And my mom believed me, but she was just trying to understand it. She didn't know the term near-death experience either. And so what really happened at that point in time was I was, I would kind of say, acclimated to the angelic realm. I was given this idea and this knowing that there is this heavenly realm that heaven knows we're coming because my grandma was right there waiting for me, even though I didn't know I was coming, right? My angel was right there. And really this ability to just see that the connection and the love that we have continues on beyond this earthly dimension.

That sounds like a very beautiful, scary, but beautiful experience. So it was just beautiful. There was no fear. I would have been fine if I had stayed there forever. The hard part for me with all my near-death experiences is coming back and doing the physical healing after what has led me to that situation. But in that place, there's so much love and peace. Nobody transitions into that with fear. I hear this so often from people who have near-death experience. So, I mean, I love that

you share that too, because, and other people do, because it gives us less fear of what we have feared, like this death, this ending, which, you know, like in many traditions, people just see it as transition and not so findable. Yeah. So after that near-death experience, people just see it as transition and not so final. Yeah. So after that near-death experience, I just kind of go back to life. I know I've had this experience. I don't know what to do with it. I think I have more of an awareness at that point in time about angels. And maybe I'm feeling my grandma more and more clarity about that.

But it still hasn't turned into what I would call mediumship. It was still my own personal connections. And so then my second near death happens in May of 2006. And at this point in my life, I'm a stay-at-home mom. I have three little kids. So I have a five year old, a two and a half year old, and an infant. My son is six weeks old. And so what happened with him was I had a lot of complications after I delivered him. And so I spent the majority of the following six weeks in the hospital with infections and fevers and all of this. And they finally said to me, Michelle, we just need to do a DNC. It's a procedure where they clear out your uterus. They said, it'll be 45 minutes outpatient.

You'll be fine. You'll be headed home. And the night before this procedure, I just had a pit in my stomach. I knew I shouldn't do this, but they told me it would be quick and easy and I could finally go home. I was so exhausted and tired. And so the next day I went in for the procedure and I remember talking to the anesthesiologist and the doctor. And once again, they reassured me everything would be fine. I had had anesthesia

before and whenever I had had it, it was just a blank space. There was no dreaming. There was no memory. It was just, I'm here. And then it was blank. And then I was back. And so I remember counting backwards for the anesthesiologist. And the next thing I know, I'm laying on the gurney in the operating room. And my 102-pound white German shepherd comes walking into the operating room, lays drop of water in the ocean, every flower, every piece of sand is radiating this light and love from within. And here I am in this timeless space surrounded by this unconditional blissful love, looking at my beautiful German shepherd who looked to be about two years old, young, healthy, vibrant, shiny coat. We're telepathically communicating. She's so happy that I'm there. I mean, I could just feel her love for me and my

love for her. And we are running on this beautiful beach. And as we are running, I start to notice we're not getting tired. We're not getting hot. We're not getting thirsty. The sand feels like clouds. And as I become aware of this, what happens is I really step into this very present moment. And I am in this space where it is just love and bliss, and it is each breath and each step. And as I'm on this beautiful island or beach with my dog, I can feel my son, who was six weeks old at the time, he's at home with my mom, calling to me because on a soul level, he knew I was getting ready to leave. And so I go to him and I literally say to him, I will find a way to stay. I'm not going to leave you. And I don't know what to do. So I start praying

and I start saying, I need help. It's not my time. My kids still need me. The next thing I know, I'm transported back into the operating room and Jesus comes in and Jesus comes in as my best friend. And the energy is just like, I'm here to help you. That was it. It was not bow down to me, confess your sins, none of those things. And as he comes in, this operating room lights up with this beautiful white golden light. And the next thing I know, I'm waking up in post-op. And I look at the clock and my 45-minute procedure had taken three and a half hours because it turned into an emergency surgery. They had ruptured my uterus in multiple places and missed an artery by literally a millimeter. And that was the

difference of me being able to stay. Oh my goodness. So then I end up in the hospital for another week because when they ruptured the uterus, they pushed the infection into the body cavity. So then I was running fevers. It took me, there was one day after that where I thought I might die because I was so exhausted and drained. I was done. It was actually, I was so physically ill at that point in time that I had peace with the idea of dying, even though I knew I had said

it's not my time. But it was like my body was completely giving out. And so it really took me four months to get back to 80% of my level of functioning after all of that physical trauma that I had been through. And that was really challenging. I had three little kids. That story reminds me so much of my best friend, Mandy's. And longtime was really challenging. I had three little kids. That story reminds me so much of my best friend, Mandy's. And longtime Sense of Soul listeners will totally relate that as well. So many similarities in that. What I find is amazing is that, was this the same dog as when you were younger? Or was this a dog? No, this is a different dog. Different dog. I'm a dog person. Yes.

Yeah. But this dog had transitioned about two years, I believe maybe three prior to this. Oh, that is so amazing. So then after, because my best friend Mandy, her story too led to mediumship. And at the time, she didn't believe any of this stuff prior. Or if she did, she didn't believe that she had a dinner for sure. It was something that you've hired for parties or something, not for really, truly what it can be. Such a beautiful gift, not just to yourself, but to all the people that you end up connecting with.

Yeah, absolutely. So after this near-death experience, I would say my intuition was heightened again, but I just go back to life. I mean, I'm a woman trying to heal. I have three little kids. I knew I had, again, this amazing, vivid spiritual experience. I had

no idea it was called a near-death experience. I have no one in my life that I can explain this to that could validate it or tell me exactly what happened. And my mom was an RN. And even when I shared it with her, it's not that she didn't believe me. But of course, in her mind, there's probably that part of like, was she hallucinating? Was this like, what was this, right? But these near-death experiences are often or every time more vivid than our real life. And once again, that's kind of how we find the truth in it. So at that point in time, I just dig back in to being a stay-at-home mom, trying to

physically heal, raise my kids. I've had another experience. I feel more connected to spirit source. I know Jesus is real. I know dogs go to heaven. I mean, there are all these beautiful lessons that I get, but I go back into my human Michelle. I've got kids to raise. I've got to heal. I've got life to do. And so then what happens for me is my third near-death experience, which was truly monumental. That one happens on 11-1-11, so November 1st, 2011. And on that day, we have in this house 14-foot ceilings. And so about 12 feet off the ground, I have battery-operated candles. I change the batteries once a month. They light up at night.

It's pretty. And so that day, my kids were, at that point, they were 10, 8, and 5. And my oldest was at school. My younger two were home with me. And I said, as soon as I get done putting this candle back up, we're going to leave and go get your sister. And as I climbed to the top of the ladder, I felt it start to shift. And I literally remember thinking, this is going to hurt because I knew it was going down.

At that moment, I was ripped out of my body, not in a painful way, but in a fast way. I was standing with three people that I had never met, but I felt like I had known them my whole life. I was standing with an Asian man, an Egyptian woman, and a Hawaiian man. And as I was standing there with them once again, I'm in this timeless space, this unconditional love, and I am literally looking at my body in the ladder suspended in the air. It was like a freeze frame in a movie. And as I stand with them, they said to me, what would you like to do? Would you like to stay or would you like to go? And in that moment, I see this beautiful angel come in, which is different than the first angel. This angel is

dressed in red and gold. And as soon as I see this angel, I know it's there to take me home or shift something so that I can stay. So I'm in this unconditional, loving, timeless space trying to figure out how my body is going to hit the floor in a second or less. And I had forever to decide if I wanted to stay or go. And at that moment, the moment when time stands still ends up being the most pivotal moment of my life, I see my kids and I know I want to stay to raise them. And your marriage will most likely end in divorce and you're going to have other tragedies, but you can go back, but here's the deal. And so at that point in time, I literally had to make an agreement, which I did willingly to come back and raise my kids. And so I end up falling off the ladder. The back of my head hits the corner of the granite island on my way down. So I had a five and a half inch skull fracture. I had a brain bleed.

I lost my taste, my smell, my equilibrium. It was extremely traumatic on my body. And what happened was I ended up literally surviving the fall by half an inch because that was how much I had missed my brain stem by. And I knew immediately that that angel had moved my head half an inch. So and your poor kids were there, your two younger kids. Yes, my two younger kids were there. And so what happens is my daughter ends up calling 911 and getting help. Then in January 2012, a couple months later after

out of the hospital and once again, years of recovery ahead of me, my son who was five at the time started getting depressed because he had tried to call 911 and his call hadn't gone through. And he would tell me or my mom, my mother-in-law, I didn't do anything to help you. I didn't need to be there. Sophie could have done it without me. And we would say, but Josh, you opened the door for the policemen. You let them in. You helped. So the end of January, my grandfather, who passed away when I was 13, comes in with this massive mediumship visit to me. And he literally says to me, he's talking about my accident and my head injury. He's talking about my son.

They never walk this earth at the same time. And he's talking about it being good with electronics. And he says to me, Michelle, you need to get the 911 recording. There's something on there you should know. I didn't even know I could get the 911 recording. There's something on there you should know. I didn't even know I could get the 911 recording. So also at this point in time, I have no idea those three people I were standing with were life guides. That wasn't a word in my vocabulary. I didn't know I had another near death experience. I just had an experience. And so I order this 911 recording and it takes a

couple of weeks to come in and I play it when I get it. And I hear them say, 911, what's your emergency? And my son, Josh, in his little broken voice says, Sophie, what do I say? And then he laid the phone down. So his call had gone through, but he must have called right in the immediate trauma of the situation and had literally forgotten he had called. So for a minute and a half, 911 tries to get the kid's attention and says, can you hear us? What's happening? He says he's going to push the panic alarm on the house.

And then my daughter says to him, hold on, let me try calling 911. She hangs up the phone and her call goes through. So both of them had succeeded in getting me the help that I needed that day. And had my grandfather not come through and shared that information with me, I would have never known that. Hey guys, sorry for the interruption, but have you ever dreamed of making a bigger difference and learning to help others heal and live their best lives? Well, this is your chance to become a certified atomic healing method medical intuitive with Amy Lee McCree, world-renowned medical intuitive with 24 years of experience, a six-figure business owner and best-selling author of over 18 books.

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Now back to our amazing guest. What smart children you have. And he even thought to press the house alarm. Yeah. Yeah. What a blessing. I mean, it was unbelievable.

You just wonder, you know, what your kids will do in those situations. I mean, it's amazing. Kids are so remarkable to me. Yeah, they really are.

They really are. They're so much smarter than we give them credit for. And, you know, it was interesting because we had moved into this house in July of 2011. And then my accident was in November. And I remember going over with my kids, okay, you know, 911, here's our address. I even wrote 911 on a piece of paper and stuck it in the lower cabinet so they could reach it, not up high. I wrote down our address. So in some interesting way, in hindsight, my soul was preparing them for what they were going to need to do. Who does that? I mean, it's great to do. I mean, everyone should do that, but I can't remember. I definitely didn't do that. Yeah. And so, yeah, in hindsight, it's unbelievable. I had written down

the address of where we lived. I'd written down the numbers, 911, taped it in a low cabinet so they could find it. It's just, yeah, on a soul level, because I do believe in pre-life planning, I have to say my soul was trying to prepare all of us for that. Amazing. It reminds me of that movie, Little Rascals, when the little boy is like, quick! What's the number for 9-1-1? Little Lionel! What's the number for 9-1-1?

Yeah. Exactly. So, the three figures there, the one that was Hawaiian, Egyptian, and Indian? Asian. So, what did you learn from them in the coming year? Yeah. I mean, now I work really closely with them because now I know them as my life guides, but I had no idea that's who they were. But it makes sense because in that

near-death experience, I was given the choice to stay or go. So of course, my life guides are going to be the ones who show up and they're like, all right, what do you want to do here? So I work really closely with them. Chen is my master guide. The other two are always on my team, but they're really good at giving me the opportunities that my soul is seeking. They're good at keeping me on track. We all have life guides. I like to tell people that whether you know it or not or believe in it or not, you do. And that's okay. They don't need you to believe in them to help keep your soul plan on track. They'll do it either way. Well, you want to hear something absolutely crazy? So this morning, my best friend, Mandy, her daughter had a dream about me last night. It was such a cute dream. She said,

this is so weird, but she lives in Florida. She's like, Shanna, you designed swimsuits for kids with autism because I have a kid with autism. And you also created a beach chair and it vibrated. I was like, that's so awesome. I know. I was like, but in that moment, I remembered my dream last night that I woke up in the middle of the night and I even tried to go back lucid because I was it was so remarkable and I remember saying to myself you really should get up and write this down and I was saying you'll never forget this you'll never well I did until my best friend's daughter messaged me and told me about her dream so thank God I remembered. So years ago, almost, I guess maybe around a decade ago, my first, no, my second Reiki achievement that I had, I had saw this monk. And I ended up learning over years that he was my spirit guide because he kept showing up in meditation and dreams and stuff like that.

And in another dream, my grandma had told me to call him David because he was mute. He didn't talk. And I'm like, what kind of freaking spirit guide can't talk? You know, this is right, Joe. And so last night, I haven't seen or heard about him in years. Last night, he was in my dreams. And I barely remember. I was trying to hold on so much to the memory, but I didn't. I lost it. But I said, oh, I said, aren't you my spirit guide in my dream? And he said, no.

And he spoke to me. He goes, you're my spirit guide. Wow. That's amazing and i tried to go back in and i did but it wasn't communicating and i haven't seen him in like probably a year right wow i was i'm blown away so this is fresh like hours old too so I haven't processed it. But, yeah, you know, growing up Catholic. Well, he's like a Franciscan monk, by the way, too.

Okay. Of course, because you resonate with that. Yeah. Isn't that interesting as well? Because that's something I've been kind of looking over recently as well, thinking my experiences are more angelic and connected to angels. And I see angels as like they're depicted behind you where we know that described in the Bible, they don't look like that. And so, yeah, a lot of it is within my conditions and my belief system.

But then you hear someone else's experience about something and they see maybe something totally different. Maybe they see even like an ET. Right. But yeah, it's very much the same, but it's connected to what we know. Yeah, absolutely. What happens is the universe, God, source, the divine is all about love and comfort. So if you're somebody who's totally into ETs and open to having ETs as life guides, you'll notice if you do. And if you're somebody who doesn't even believe they exist, the universe is like, okay, I love you. Here's an angel or here's a human form or here's mother Teresa. So it really is about love and comfort and

compassion for us. If I'm somebody who is fearful of aliens, then when I die and go to heaven, I'm probably not going to see any until I'm ready to see them or think maybe they could exist because that's not going to be love and comfort for me. But if I'm somebody who has spent my life as an alien, searcher, outer, like, where are they? I know they're here. Then when I get to heaven, I'm going to be like, I knew it. Here they are. I see them. There's the T-bone home exactly you know what that's what i think i've learned and that's why it's like i can't take away from anyone's experience because it is unique to each of us so you've had a lot of free will very important choices to go to this side or this side and it

seems like your children well the last two times really anchored you here that you were not ready. So why do you think it was that you were challenged in this way or given this opportunity to go to the other side? So from what I know from looking into my soul plan, first of all, just let me say those darn kids, they hold me back every time they get here. I actually think because I do believe in soul plans, I believe that my kids said, okay, before we came in, we know you will be challenged and staying on earth a hundred years. You're going to be like, can I go now? Can I go now? And because of that, they said, we're going to create this bond with you that helps anchor you into this earth realm. And absolutely they have. So for me,

what I believe about my life plan was that I wanted to find God's source, the divine, in the brightest bright light and in the depths of the darkest despair. And it's a very challenging life plan. I'm not exactly sure how I thought that was a good idea. But what I would say is, in my three near-death experiences, I found Source God the Divine in the brightest, most loving light to remind me how we are all surrounded with this and supported on our journeys here. But then also in the darkest moments of my life, like when my life partner transitioned by suicide, I could find source in those moments too. And so I've really had this life of almost polarity where it's in the brightest bright and then the darkest dark

that I'm able to find that I'm not alone on this journey. Oh my gosh. I'm so sorry to hear that. Seems like the more spiritual journey and the more purpose you have, the more screwed up life you're going to have or the more challenges, I should say, not screwed up life. But it is true. I mean, because how do you find the light unless you go through the dark? It's unfortunate. But if you had to choose to come into a life, would you come in just everything is wonderful and happens for me perfectly? How would you learn? Right. That's what you have in heavenly realm. So there would be no point to really come in and

have everything perfect all of the time. Our souls choose to come here for the contrast and the evolution and the learning. And some souls definitely take on harder life plans than others. We all know that. We know people who have roads that we say, how do they do it? And we know people that we're like, well, it seems pretty good for them. It doesn't mean they don't have their challenges. They're just at a different level. Yeah. They just have their tools and have higher vibration. Maybe some of those things don't stick as they come by. But you know what? This is just overall collectively a very hard time, you know, for humanity, for Earth, you know, for Mother Earth.

But then you have all these other beautiful things. It seems like this great awakening. You have the divine feminine rising. A lot of people are dropping some of those conditions, which then their children grow up less conditioned, and so they're a whole new species. So when did you begin your mediumship and join this huge awakening that we all are experiencing? Yeah. So after my head injury, it took me a while to just get back to functioning decent. And with that being said, what happened was I went to a counselor because I was talking to dead people and I still was not okay with this. I wasn't sure about this, you know, and as

spirit has it, which is so funny that I would say that because now as a medium, I know there's no such thing as dead people, right? But that's how our humanness perceives it. Spirit led me to the perfect counselor who within time said, Michelle, what a gift. Let's get you a mentor. So I started mentoring. I started training. And then in 2017, I really went into doing this professionally and I started slow. It was a slow build during that time. In the last few years, my marriage, my 25-year marriage ended in divorce, just like my life guide said it most likely would. And then my life partner transitions by suicide. So the challenges didn't stop rolling just because I agreed to come back and do my mediumship. I would like to think that was like a get out of jail free card.

Like, okay, if you agree with this, you're good. The rest of life, piece of cake. But that hasn't been the experience. But as I practice my mediumship and as I learned my connection with my angels and my life guides and that I could really trust the information that was coming in, it does change your life. And it gives you this higher perspective where you can look at even I look at people or clients and I never look at someone and think, why do they keep dating the same kind of person. I look at them and I think, huh, I wonder what their soul wants to learn because we're really souls here to learn and grow. And when we can start seeing the world in that way, it changes everything. That's me too. I had the worst week, like two weeks ago. I mean, everything that could go wrong kept going wrong. And by the end, I was just like, F it. I was like, this is all. I started laughing. It was almost hilarious.

But that's how I look at it too now. Because I'm like, what is this teaching me? What is happening? Right. But there's always something. You know, you just have to be present with it. Mm-hmm. And we're always supported with whatever that something is.

So it's never just human Michelle facing this life alone. I have my angels. I have my life guides. I have my loved ones in spirit. That doesn't mean, and I want to be really clear about this, the grief from my life partner or suicide, it will take me to my knees. I will lose my breath. There is no way to bypass the humanness of this, even though I have maybe more knowledge spiritually than a lot of people. One of the things I did was I was a deep dive into our soul plan. Okay, how, why? You know, so I might have handled this differently than other people do. But yeah, I mean, the knowledge is the knowledge and it's really good. But I will say with my partner's transition, one of the things that I like kind of equate it to

is like food poisoning. You're like, okay, I'm sick from the shrimp, but you still gotta get sick. You gotta get through it, right? And this is life. And usually our lessons don't come in that extreme. But one of the things that I know about my soul plan with him,

first of all, I don't believe anyone's transition by suicide is written into their soul plan. That is a free will choice that they make. I don't believe that. But what I will say is I believe that I knew there was a higher possibility he would leave that way than most people. And yet I still took that opportunity to love him. And I know that he stayed longer because I was in his life. Wow. Again, I'm super sorry. And this was not your children's dad though, right?

Correct. I have a good friend who her husband did that last year and it's so hard. And she also is very spiritual because she's always searching for understanding. Oh, absolutely. And from my understanding from spirit and from his situation and all that is nobody writes that into their soul plan. But what happens is we come in and we know we're going to have a body with DNA that's more likely to fight depression and this and that. There are souls that come in knowing there is a higher possibility that this will happen to them, just like souls that might have ALS or breast cancer, you know, different things like that. But I don't believe it is ever written into the soul plan as this is how I will leave. That is a free will choice. And my understanding about that with spirit is this. Whenever a soul leaves enough of an opening or their humanness does that say they're contemplating leaving this way, but they have to go to the grocery store and someone smiles at them and there was just enough of an opening that they could feel that or resonate, they will be diverted from this action

because spirit world is working really hard to keep us here. And what happens though for some souls is they get to the point where they are so closed off or overwhelmed by this blanket of depression that at that point in time, the soul doesn't leave an opening to be routed a different way. Well, you know, what's also interesting is that, you know, like the choice that you were given and just, you know, so I see that there's more free will and choice when it comes to you're on the other side, then we may think. Right. Yeah. Because while we have free will on a soul level, none of us are forced to be here. All of our souls chose to come here. Nobody's accidentally here. Even if you say, oh, my mom

accidentally got pregnant with me when she was 17. Not an accident. I mean, that might be the human story, but that's not the soul story. So that idea is that none of us are here accidentally. We're all here because we chose to come and learn and grow in this contrast. So we have free will on the soul level. We have free will on the human level because we can choose how we want to see things with our perspective once we're here. Wow. That's amazing. So what do you do now with using your gifts that you end up receiving? Because Mandy as well, she started to receive mediumship. And at first, it was just with someone that was connected to her in DEs. But then she started to get messages for other people. And at first, her too. She was like,

dude, I just think that somebody told me to tell this person this. And it was very specific. But she's like, I think they're going to think I'm crazy. Yeah, absolutely. So well, you know, what I ended up doing was I became a certified medium. So I went through, because mediumship is really an interesting thing. We don't have a governing board. You can find people across the spectrum. There are frauds out there. I mean, on and on. So I became a certified medium, which what I had to do to do that was five blind readings where they would just say, log on Wednesday at 11. And I'd just have to start giving an information to someone I never knew. And they were sitting there scoring me.

So I felt like it was really important for me to validate that this is legitimate. And then the other thing with that is now that's what I do professionally. So I work as a psychic, a medium, angel communicator, life guides, and I also get medical intuition. So I'll have clients that come to me across the boards, clients who want to connect with loved ones, clients who want psychic readings, tell me what my angels are saying, how's my health, you know? And I love being able to access all areas like that. Yeah, that's such a blessing. Did you ever think that this is what you'd be doing like 20 years ago? Yeah, it's so funny. Every once in a while, someone from high school will find out what I do. Like someone I haven't talked to in decades and I'll get a message and they'll be like, I didn't know this about you in high school. How did, did you always know? I'm like, I didn't know either. Exactly. I had no idea. Never in my life did I think when I grow up,

I'm going to be a medium. You had no idea that you'd die three times. Well, and hopefully that's the last time. Good Lord. Yes. I'm convinced that is. I think that the fourth time will be my ticket out of here. Yeah. Your kids are like, don't be so sure about that, mom. Oh, gosh. That's so amazing. How old are they now? So now my youngest is 18 and 20 and 23. Okay. So very similar to mine.

That's so amazing. You know, with that dream this morning, like I still need to like sit with it and process it. But my thoughts are, you know, because there's no time and space, that maybe when he was visiting me, maybe I was visiting him. Because he is, I would say like the way he's dressed, he's like a friar, an old friar, like in like 1400s or something like that. Right. Yeah. Absolutely.

You were the one guiding him. You were misinterpreting it. Yeah. So do you think that like the different angels that you saw, specifically the three that were standing with you, do you think that you've had past lives of them? Or do you find that often that we are connected to our spirit guides also in past lives? I do believe so. I really do. The other thing that I would say about that is I believe like our spirit guides have had many earthly incarnations.

They had to have to be able to help us navigate this train. So I do believe that I know them on a soul level and have had previous experiences. It just makes sense. Like if you're going to start something new, you want to bring people you trust or souls you trust in on your team. And so I do believe we've had connections with our life guides and other lifetimes. Well, and do you think that them being like Asian, Egyptian, Hawaiian are clues to where those lives might have been? Or why would you have brought those different nationalities in?

Yeah, I absolutely think it is clues to those lifetimes. And I think it also would be like showing the diversity of our soul. Like here's Caucasian Michelle. My life guides are not Caucasian, you know? And so it just shows that your soul, my soul is like, hey, who do I trust? I need the best people for my team. There's no part. It's all about that oneness, right? Yeah, that's so amazing. So how do you work with clients? Or like if any of our listeners wanted to contact you

and get a session from you, what do you do? Yeah, so the easiest way is to go to my website, michelleclaire.net. And there you'll find my upcoming events. If you're in the Phoenix area, you can book a session. I do have online gallery readings and small group readings online. So you don't have to be local to Phoenix. I actually have clients all over the world. Awesome. I know. Zoom is such a beautiful thing now, isn't it? It is. Now, do you think your children have the same gift? You know, my kids have gifts, definitely.

My oldest daughter, wow, I always laugh and I tell my friends someday I think I'll work for her because her abilities are just amazing. And she's been able to have me as a mom to mentor her with that, whereas I didn't have that. So hers are great. My middle child, she seems to have a lot of healing abilities. And then my youngest, my son, is pretty psychic. But he's 18 and he wants to be a kid and enjoy life.

So I do think they're all going to embrace their abilities more later on. But right now they want to be kids. And awesome. Go do it. That's so cool. Well, thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me. I've really enjoyed our time together. Thanks for listening to Sense of Soul Podcast and thanks to our special guests for joining me.

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