Sense of Soul - You Can Be A Medium

Episode Date: January 23, 2023

Today joining me is one of America's most highly-acclaimed psychic mediums, The Red Couch Medium, Tracey Escobar. She is a professional medium, mentor, author, and she too is the podcast host of Metaphysical Happy Hour along side her co host Cassie Clayton.  Tracey is an Advanced Certified Psychic Medium with Lisa Williams International School of Spiritual Development. She has studied extensively at the Arthur Findlay College, the world's foremost college for the advancement of spiritualism and psychic sciences, she has also privately mentored with international celebrity psychic medium, Colby Rebel. Tracey is joining us today to share her story and tell us about her new book, You Can Be a Medium is an engaging guide that will develop your intuitive capabilities through exercises, tools, inspiring meditations—and the story of a very special red couch. Visit her website, purchase her book and check out her podcast at the links below. https://theredcouchmedium.com https://www.metaphysicalhappyhour.com/ Visit Sense of Soul at www.mysenseofsoul.com Do you want Ad Free episodes? Join our Sense of Soul Patreon, our community of seekers and lightworkers. Also recieve 50% off of Shanna’s Soul Immersion experience as a Patreon member, monthly Sacred circles, Shanna mini series, Sense of Soul merch and more. https://www.patreon.com/senseofsoul Thank you to our Sponsor  KACHAVA, Use this link for 10% off! www.kachava.com/senseofsoul

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Check out our Patreon. Today, joining me is one of America's most highly acclaimed psychic mediums, the red couch medium, Tracy Escobar. She is a professional medium, mentor, author, and she too is a podcast host of the Metaphysical Happy Hour alongside her co-host, Cassie Clayton. And today, Tracy is joining us to share her story and to tell us all about her new book, You Can Be a Medium, an engaging guide that will help develop your intuitive capabilities through exercises, tools, inspiring meditations, and the story of a very special red couch. So welcome, Tracy. Thanks so much for being with us.

Hi, how are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm good how are you I'm good good to see you happy Monday thank you so much for coming on I had so much fun when I was on you and Cassie's podcast you guys do the lives and everything which this is not live so I get to edit any you get to make it pretty so yeah in that fact it's nice but it's so fun when it's live right I'm having a great time with you oh well thank you thank you we have fun because yeah whatever happens happens right yeah and actually that episode that I did with you guys when we pulled cards I was pulling from a deck that actually was the beginning of so many synchronicities in the journey that I have been on since then. Really? Yes.

I love that. I know. Yeah. Part of the string of, of divine synchronicities. We'll have you back. That's fine. Yeah. Oh yeah, absolutely. Well, I'm excited for you. You have wrote a book since I've seen you. I did. Super excited. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited to just to talk about it. I think that actually a book like this, and especially during the title and a little bit about it is like needed this world. Yeah. Because I think so many people, they discover their gifts or their purpose, but they're like, what do I do with it?

Yeah. Right. Or like me, I didn't even know if it was possible. Right. I thought you had to be special. Yeah. Yeah. I wrote it when I was younger.

Like I'd see Teresa or I see like John Edwards on TV. I was like, why can't I do that? Why wasn't I special enough to get that? Right. Had no idea. I wasted so many years thinking only certain people could do it. Right. So, you know, I, I've never been a red person. No, not really. I mean, just sometimes daring. And so, you know, being the red couch medium for you always a red person, or did that develop and evolve? So that, that's a really great question.

It really evolved. It kind of lines up with my awakening, so to speak. I was never really a red person either, but during my awakening, I started noticing red everywhere. It's hard to explain, but when you go through your awakening, colors just become so vibrant and just looks different. Right. And so red would like pop. And then, you know, everybody knows about the red Cardinal, you know, spirit comes to us

and red Cardinals. Right. And so all of a sudden I never noticed a red Cardinal before ever. And then all of a sudden all these red Cardinals were coming across my path and I would just notice them. I'd noticed red flowers. I would notice like red and tree trunks. You know, I would go just take pictures of everything I could find red. It just became super important to me without me realizing red flowers. I would notice like red and tree trunks. You know, I would go just take pictures of everything I could find red. It just became super important to me without me realizing why. And then it kind of goes into how I became the red couch medium, right? I was out hiking one day. And at that time I was starting to do some meditations. I was starting to get creative with myself because I was sick and tired of being sick and tired. And on that hike, I stopped,

you know, out of the middle of nowhere and told my friend like, God, how random would it be for a red couch to be out here in the middle of nowhere? Because I just got a vision of a red couch in the woods, just on my walk. It was just crazy. And you know, that person that I was with knew I was kind of going through some awakening stuff at the time. And so, you know, didn't make fun of me, but we noted it, right? Okay. Red couch. No, nothing happened that day, of course. But like a week later, my dryer broke and see it's all divine, right? So the story is just crazy. It made me have to go to a laundromat and I went to a laundromat in my town. And then right behind the laundromat is the lake, like Lake Louisville. It's right behind there. And there's a big pasture.

And so while my stuff was drying, I said, well, let's just kind of go for a walk along the lake. And the laundromat was in this strip center, so to speak. And so we walked down the strip center, we turned the corner and then we turned the corner again and saw the big meadow to get to the lake. And I'm not even kidding you. There was an abandoned red couch right there. Holy crap. Yeah. We both stopped. We looked at each other. Holy shit. You can't make that shit up. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. And I said, okay, all right, this is it. This is exactly what I was supposed to be doing. And then just because of the synchronicities were starting to come, you know, and I just attributed to my dad. So I'd lost my dad when I was 19 and I just started attributing the color red to everything with my dad and it wasn't until I was writing this book

that I remembered so my dad died when I was 19 and it was a military funeral he was in the military he had just retired you know and everybody was in their black I was the only one guess what color dress I wore right 19 I wore red red. Yeah. And it all just came full circle. And I wrote it in my book. Cause I didn't even remember until we were going through my book and trying to write it and going back to that trauma of losing my dad. I was like, Oh my God, I had a red dress with a little white polka dots and red high heel shoes stood out. Cause I was the only one I read. Right. And so I think, you know, that just came full circle. It was all meant to be. Oh my goodness. Yeah. You know, of course, I think he was there that day. Sure. You know, so I don't know if he's just used that. I just

think it's just so weird, full synchronicities and full circle. Maybe this is what I was meant to be doing all along. Right. Just kind of solidified my purpose, I think. So when did you figure out that you were a medium? So I'd never, ever, ever had an experience. And that's why growing up, losing my dad at 19, I became interested in the spirit world and what happens after we die, right? Because experiencing death that young, what happens when we die? Is that it? Right? You're done. That's it. Thinking about it, wishing I could, could you know for some reason I automatic believed that there was life after death and always wanting an experience but never knowing

what to expect you got to think back then at 19 there was barely internet barely internet right so yeah wasn't enough information out there I think there is today I didn't even know it was even possible and so you know I went and spent all my twenties and thirties running, numbing and hiding right through my trauma. Cause I was in so much trauma from my childhood and into early twenties, I was in a lot of trauma. And then at 45, I woke up one day with a saying in my head and just being tired of being tired and wondering, is this all that life is about? Just getting up every day, taking care of kids, cooking, cleaning, going to work, paying bills,

coming home and doing it all over again. Right. I was really like questioning what is life about and why me? And I had stumbled upon a pill addiction at the time. Cause I had severe back trouble and I just became addicted to the hydrocodones. Right. And it became my crutch. And so among other things, and so I was tired, I was done. And the affirmation that I heard in my head is you are meant to be greater than you are

today. And I wrote that on my bathroom mirror, you are meant to be greater than you are today. And that started my journey. I started trying to meditate. I started journaling. I said, I'm going to go figure out what's wrong with me. Went back to birth, you know, journaled all the way through adulthood, trying to figure stuff out, meditating. And that's when I started having experiences. And then I had went to a psychic medium and she's the one that planted the seed that I took my daughter with me. And she said, you guys can do this or you guys can do this.

I'm like, what do you mean? Right. And as soon as we got in the car, I dialed, okay, Google metaphysical store classes. Where am I going? And I, yeah, I ended up at a metaphysical store in Louisville, Texas. And that's where my journey began. I started taking like psychic development classes, a little bit of mediumship classes, and it kind of just blossomed from there.

Wow. That's so similar to like my journey too. I find that with a lot of people too. You know, you wonder if the whole midlife crisis that people have always talked about was actually just like a spiritual awakening. Yeah. Cause my whole life changed. I am such a different person. My friends are in awe of what I've become. And in the six years that I've been on this journey, my life has completely flipped upside down and it's just been an amazing ride. When you look back, I mean, do you, did you really truly have nothing or did you just ignore it? I didn't, I really wish I had experiences. Yeah. I was still different. I remember that feeling of being on still little girl feeling different. Yeah. Crying feel different. I remember that feeling of being a little girl feeling different.

Yeah. Crying out. Right. Just feeling it. But no, no ghosts, no experiences. Didn't know my dad was going to die when he died. Had not seen. That's why I thought I wasn't special enough to be able to do it. Right. My dad dying too was a huge part of my journey. Yeah, it is. Right. And I feel so bad now. Like if I was born probably later in life a different time I would have probably started in my 20s and not have gone through it but then I think well I had to go through what I've went through because I can connect with people who going through the same thing so a part of my journey is attracting those kind of people and I can help them because I've been through it so that's why it was really

important for me in my book to write my lessons and write my soul lessons. And I got really raw and really real. I'm not trying to hide anything. I'm a real person who had real struggles and look what healing did for me now, you know, and the other side of healing, look what can happen for your life. Yeah. And I think that that's like the difference between us now than it was like,

say 15, 20 years ago, where we're trying to reach out and connect with people because we've experienced it and that vulnerability and that connection rather than I know all, and I am so educated and all the things you're supposed to do because I read it in a book. And then, you know, also too, I think this day and age, and I'm struggling with this with the past generations, like my mother, they don't want to talk about this stuff. And so writing this book has caused some strife within the family and everything. I'm like, why aren't we talking about it?

Why is it such a secret? Why do we try to push it under the rug? And I just think that's how it was handled back in other generations. Right. So breaking that cycle and coming out and just being real and honest and judge me if you want it, I'm human, but here I am now and trying to help people heal through my experiences. I know. I always think back to how their parents were called the silent generation. It was so true, right? It was just like, suck it up, do what you got to do. Keep going without, you know, showing emotion without screaming and saying life is fucking hard. It's true. I know with my book, my me and my mom, she came over and we had to cry about it

because she wanted nothing to do with it because of all the stuff that I tell her it's okay for us to tell. We didn't do the bad things. People did it. And so, you know, just struggling with my mom through that. And she's still having a really hard time that I'm putting it out there. She won't read it, but I made her touch it. I said, you got to touch it. At least your daughter wrote a book, nothing bad. And we have to talk about it because it affects our life. Back in those days, you would, you would stuff it. And she goes, well, we just would go on. We wouldn't talk about it because it affects our life. Back in those days, you would, you would stuff it. And she goes, well, we just would go on.

We wouldn't think about it and dwell on it. And it's not about dwelling on it. It's about understanding the trauma and how it's affecting you today. Really? Acknowledging it. Yes. Because you can't fix it if you don't acknowledge it. Relationships, it takes everything.

Yes. Yes. It's so true. And, you know, I've had my mom about that too, especially around me when I did that whole ancestry thing, she was like, you don't need to let the world know. And I was like, why? I was like, the whole reason why I want to let people know is because it was hidden. And that affects us. Yes. But then even when I, my recent journey with the Gnostic Gospels and the goddess Sophia, that too was hidden. So it's, I feel like it's been my purpose to

out the hidden truths, you know, to seek the truth and share it. But that did start within myself first, which, you know, so I love how if people are on the right track, this is my perspective, that the work has to be done inside first. I like how Dr. Jerry Rivera-Degeneo says it's an incension. And I think that is so true. We're always like so focused on, I want to be the medium and virtual and know all the things, but there's this inner work that has to be done first. Do you agree? Oh, absolutely. When I train people, so I do mentorships, I tell them a mediumship is a journey of healing, right? It's a two way, it goes side by side. You can't be this great medium. If you haven't done your work, you have so tricky. I had no idea that was going to be the case.

I didn't, but it worked for me, right? Oh yeah. Great tutors taught me that because you have to be a clear slate. If you think about it, if your vibration is full of hurt and trauma and you haven't worked through it, that's the kind of mediumship you're going to do. Yeah. And you're going to cause more damage to people because you're going to spew hurt and trauma, right? You can't help it if you're a medium. You can't help but put your own spin on things because it's your brain that's being funneled

through, right? That's right. Yeah. And I also feel like just creating that space, like if you have all this weight on you from the world and from, you know, your childhood, your ancestors, whatever. And so as you're removing it, you're making this space and you're making this clear channel to receive. And yeah, it just makes them, you can see the person in grief who wants to so badly connect. Yes. They're stuck in that lower vibration of grief that is so heavy.

It's true. That's why I say, that's why you're not getting the dreams. I tell people, why aren't they coming to me? Because your vibration is so low right now. It's really hard to get through the muck. That's what I kind of tell them, right? Wait, you're going to have to grieve a little. You're going to have to heal some.

And then when you're open mind and open space, they're come in I promise right and of course we're gonna go up and down all the time right oh it's not like it doesn't happen to me it doesn't happen to you you know I have been going through a hard time over the past week especially and my vibration was so low because I was so just in a funk and kind of sad and And literally I tell you, I got so sick. I got so, yes, I got the, like the worst cold came out of fricking nowhere. I was the only one sick. I was so sick for an entire day and then decided to put protection around me, just a meditation, cut some cords. I went to bed so fricking sick. and the next day I woke up like so okay it was the weirdest thing in the world I almost felt like I was being psychically attacked

you know which I considered that too so I mean I just really I had to do some spiritual hygiene and bring full awareness to my energy. I mean, it was crazy. It was affecting my physical body, you know, my immune system. That goes to show sometimes we have to be the observer of ourselves. Okay. What's going on and observe what's going on within yourself and tackle that for sure. Kind of like was a reminder hey shanna guess what this can happen to you too right you were in such a high vibe everything was going good and let's just because we're spiritual doesn't mean nothing doesn't happen to us either right and i'll tell you what i think it was about three years ago it was middle of the night my partner woke me up and

he wanted to have sex i've've always hated it. And whenever he did that, my body would tense up. So I was doing Reiki classes and my lower back had been hurting. So as I'm teaching, I'm like, I'll take advantage of this and work a lot on my sacral chakra. I was coming up. Well, lo and behold, after we're done, I'm laying there and I'm like, oh my God, all these memories came back of when I was around 11 years old. I had been violated and it was when I was sleeping and I pretended to be asleep. So, and I talked about this and I thought it didn't affect me. I don't know why it affects some people. Like, you know, and I, it was open. This is what I said. But then all of a sudden I realized it was affecting me through my first marriage.

This one, you know, it had always been, it was in my tissue. Even if my mind didn't think it was, every part of my body was feeling it and remembering it. So I was like, okay, I'm acknowledging this. I'm bringing it to the front. I'm going to give it the love and care that it needs. And I'm going to let this go. And I look at my partner. I said, tonight, I want you to try to wake me up and we'll try it again. He was like, oh, are you freaking kidding me? I will never wake you up in the middle of the night again. And I was like, you have to, I have to test the system. I can't make sure it's working.

But here I had this traumatic experience as a child that I just acted like didn't affect me living in my muscles. Right. The minute you said you tensed up, I said, I know exactly what happened to you because it happened to me. And that's the feelings that I would get. I used to kick my partner off of me. It would get so bad and so tense. I would kick like, and I had to go figure out what the hell's wrong with me. My body remembered. So it's because you're being forced to do something you don't want to do. And your mind goes into the fight, even though you're doing it to satisfy a partner, you really don't want to, and your brain will

go into fight. Right. And that's what happened. So it's so interesting, but yeah, I've been there too. I've experienced that too. And that was a huge lifting, right? Made huge spiritual breakthroughs after that. And you're like,

went away, right? You acknowledge it. You're like, okay, this is why it's happening. This is why. You know, self-awareness is key. Yeah. Those things had to be addressed. It was impacting my relationship and I had no idea.

Yeah. I thought about that. How many things are living in me that I'm not even conscious to. Yeah. Right. Yes. And then I wondered, why didn't this come up so long ago? thing in me that I'm not even conscious to. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And then I wondered, why didn't this come up so long ago? I've been on this journey for so long, but you know what?

I didn't have the tools. I didn't have the tools at the time to deal with that. So I see that everything is divine timing as well. So, I mean, I'm prepared for the next one. It's going to be a big one. I'm trying to, it's, you know, it's an evolution, you know, we're always going through change. You know how we talk about our mother-daughter relationships. I'm struggling through my daughter, mother-daughter relationships with my daughters, but I'm like,

okay, I do a lot of self-awareness stuff. I go to bed every night. What could I have done better today? I really do because I need to be aware of myself. And so now I'm struggling with two daughters I do a lot of self-awareness stuff. I go to bed every night. What could I have done better today? I really do. Because I need to be aware of myself. And so now I'm struggling with two daughters in my life. Like why? It has to be because I struggle with my mom. And so just trying to make those connections and trying to heal the trauma.

Because I raised children off of trauma, fight or flight, right? And now I got to go back and undo some of that stuff and try to figure out why. Because I didn't think I was okay. I was successful. I was raising three children. Like my house was always in order. You think you're doing everything right, but you're not, you're just kind of a robot and not feeling and not doing that stuff.

So that's kind of the journey I'm on now. I got to go back and feel it. I got to go back and heal it. So, you know, therapy's working too for me. Yep. Definitely. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

And you know, you, you carry some of your parents trauma too you do you don't realize it right yeah don't realize it yeah I've had to really you know because you know most of my life my mom and I have been at were at odds too and you know a lot of that was because I think that she thought that I favored my dad so much. You know, that daddy's girl kind of thing. And she was much more, I mean, she thinks my brother's the Messiah. Now, I mean, who's the one who cares for me? Yeah. You know, I grew up Catholic.

I think that that kind of quieted my psychic abilities, even my intuition, you know, pray to St. Anthony, every time I'm losing something, look to God, the church or whoever to guide me rather than my own intuition, my own gut feelings. I was never taught to rely on that. Exactly. Because when I was coming through my, I don't know if this was with you too, when I was going through my awakening and starting to develop my gifts, I went to a lot of psych, I needed validation. Like, am I, can I, am I, can I, am I, can I spend so much money just trying to get someone else to validate me? Right. So I wrote the book to validate everybody. You can do it. Like, this is something you can do if you want to. Right. We all have this beautiful gift

within us. Maybe we're not all meant to do it professionally. Fine. That's yeah. Not everybody's meant to be a race car driver, right? Not everybody's meant to be a medium, but if you wanted to tap in, you most definitely could. How did you get past that and get to that place of self-confidence like that?

Oh my gosh. Through the healing part, because I can tell you my biggest struggle in my mediumship development. Okay. I had a tutor tell me one time and I'll never forget it. Whatever's wrong in your mediumship is what's wrong in your personal life or your person. So it's never wrong here because it's wrong here. I was not confident in my mediumship, right? I was always afraid it was going to be wrong. I was, I was afraid to do it for money. I was afraid to get in front of people in the public so much fear because I had no confidence. And I really had to look myself in the mirror and say, wow, your trauma caused you to be not confident. So I would lack confidence

here and it was affecting me here. So I really had to do the work to build my confidence and my personal self in order to build my confidence and my mediumship. They go hand in hand, right? Wow. That makes so much sense. Doesn't it? Whatever's wrong. Look at your personal stuff because look at this one. I was having a hard time trusting spirit, you know, and I'll give you an example. If I would have had this reading, I did a reading on Friday. If I would have done this reading four years ago, I would have questioned myself. A grandmother came through and just showed me a tomato. I just had a tomato. All right. Five years ago, I would have said, I'm not saying tomato. I don't trust that. Oh,

that must have been my brain making that up. What the heck? Who's going to say tomato? I would have talked myself out of it because I didn't trust. Right. But I've done so much work and I had to look at myself. Why don't you trust? Well, because every man that I ever loved left me, right. My dad died on me. My ex-husband cheated so many times. Like there's just been trauma after trauma of trust. People that I loved would leave or abandon. I still have abandonment issues today. So I get really stressed. I get really angry with my daughters because I feel like they abandoned me. Right. So we're in estrangement with my two daughters at the moment, but everyone left. So I built this wall of not trust. Right. So that's what was wrong with my mediumship. So I had to go back and heal.

I had to go back and forgive people. And I had to go back and let the walls down so I could trust spirit. So take me back to Friday. I said, your grandmother is showing me a tomato. I know it's the strangest thing. I don't know what it means, but she's showing me a tomato. And do you know what? That was the biggest piece of evidence for that reading.

Her grandmother has slipped on a tomato inside of a grocery store and broke her hip that caused a whole lot of medical issues. Oh, wow. That was because I trusted spirit and said what I got. Yeah. Trusting yourself is such a big thing. Confidence and trust, right? That's it. Yeah. I wouldn't have been able to do it if I didn't do my work. And then leaving the validation outside of you, you know, recently I have felt the opposite. In fact, I don't know. I mean, I don't, I don't know if it's a healthy thing or, you know, cause I really become like when someone will say, well, so-and-so says this, I'm like, well, I don't know. So-and-so and where she got her information. Yeah. I have no idea that this is how I feel about it.

So it's interesting how some people put so much trust in other people. Yeah. So is this book really trying to teach people how to trust themselves then? Yeah, I do. We're talking about mediumship. How to be a medium, how to trust yourself. I do. And I tell them, you got to do your shadow work. You got to go within, you got to figure out why you don't trust, why you don't have confidence, right? Here's another

one. I am definitely blocked when it comes to readings with men, right? Anytime a man books with me, I literally get sick and I get stressed out and I get nervous and I probably would too. I don't think I've had very many. You haven't? No, but I probably would. I'm just thinking about it. You're talking about it. And why? Because my trauma comes from men, right? And I don't want to be vulnerable. Like I go in and I feel like I sink. You don't want to just continually working through trying to come out because it's my childhood stuff, right? know it's still in there I gotta keep working and I kind of keep pushing so I just say yes and I just push through it and they always end up okay right but I've probably got to do 20 30 40 to get my brain to say it's okay it's okay it's okay right right

but all of these things have made you a more successful medium. I mean, they make you trust yourself. So, you know, it's so funny because people will say like, oh, the, all the trauma, but the trauma actually has given, has been your biggest tool in helping you learn to trust yourself. It really has. And it's giving me the whereforeall to actually be okay to go within, right? Some people say I had the perfect life. There's nothing to learn.

There's nothing, there's something, right? You got to go in there and find it, but I don't know. It caused me to have to go. And that made me a better medium to just making myself go inward. And now I, and now sometimes when I get these people who call me in book reading, sometimes it's not about mediumship. They just need someone to tell them what to do next, right? They need help on their healing. They need help on their journey. And I've been there. I can help. I can, I can actually say I walk the walk. I'm on the other side of it. And this is what can happen. And that's part of the book too. Yes. I want to tell people you can be a medium. You don't have to be special too. I've been through it and I made it

right. Three. How do you heal? Let me show you, you got to heal to be a medium. And then four, let's develop, right? Let me tell you how you develop. And that's kind of all in the book. Oh my gosh. Like four books in one book. Yeah. It's all about that.

That's all very good stuff. You know, another thing is, I don't know if you feel the same, but as a mother, I used to think, oh my God, I'm going to make their lives so easy. I'm going to do all the things I want them to have no pain in their lives, you know, no stress or, you know, I just want it to be just so perfect. I really, truly did want that. Yeah. You know, I never wanted that. And now when they have a problem, like this is a great opportunity for you to learn this lesson. So by estrangement, I'm like, I'm okay. Go heal. You obviously need this space and time to figure stuff out. Yeah. Go heal. I mean,

people are probably saying, aren't you upset? Aren you crying well it hurts but I'm understanding the space that my girls need to go heal and I'm allowing that space right it's true yeah I definitely was a helicopter parent I have kids from 25 to 10 so you know I I mean I'm so obvious you know yeah and like even the other day, I hope he's not right here. He might be, I don't care if he is, but he had a flat tire and he looked at me and I'm like, yeah, you know, you'll figure that out. You know, great opportunity for you to figure out that flat tire and, you know, prioritize it because I'm not, I won't be driving you around. You're 25, but you know, my first instincts though, what, what I'm wired to do because of generations was

let me go fix it for you. I was the same way. Let me drive you around and put my whole life, right. I don't want to make you feel comfortable and happy and loved. See, that's crazy. Cause I did the same thing. I would jump. If my kids would call whatever I jump, jump, jump. And at the end of the day, my girls still abandoned and left. Right. So they didn't feel love from that. That was the way I was showing you love, but they weren't receiving it as love. It's so interesting to me. That's when the whole love language thing comes into play. I think.

Yeah. I show you love by jumping and going and trying to make your life easy because mine was hard. But they're not receiving that as love. It's interesting. Well, and I thought how, you know, my mom did the same. And so you see that these are patterns. And so even though it's still in me. Right. I mean, sometimes I've even been told, you know, oh, my God, you're so much like Momoa, which is my grandma. And she was a sacrificing martyr, right? She gave to everyone, never took for herself.

And when people tell me that, I connect with that loving part. But then I'm also like, ooh, wait, no, I'm not like that. I'm not going to go to my deathbed never ever loving myself never ever you know trusting myself and giving to myself first it's something that I broke in my family it stopped with me it was a decoration you know and my daughters are so so strong yeah So strong. Yeah. Do you believe that all of us have this channel to be able to tap into mediumship or do you believe that it's specific gifts to people? I believe we all have an innate intuition, right? And I believe if you chose and put it out into the universe that you wanted to develop, you could do it. Yeah. Anybody could put in the work. There's a lot of work, right? Okay. Now, do you

believe that you are channeling or downloading? This has been a huge thing lately. I'm like, it's just language people. We're all talking about the same thing. That's interesting. You know, not to use the word channel and then like, okay, well, what do you want to, you know, what is it? They're saying downloading, we're downloading're downloading channeling is opening yourself to start speaking through another person and all this and that and I just think it's language and I think it's very silly that people pick on words and stuff like that because it's like it's really an individual intention don't you think uh yeah and I tell people all the time look I'm going to teach you but if something doesn't

resonate I got taught by somebody else I it doesn't make it gold I don't know what's really going to happen until we die we really none of us really know how it really is until we die so yeah I agree with you those are just semantics it just works like I don't know how I know but do you ever feel like that because like right now I feel funny saying channeling I'm not even kidding like but it's just so silly it is silly because it's like it's all if I if I'm telling you this is what I'm doing and I'm calling it channeling but you're saying it's not I mean like downloading downloading like I wouldn't assume downloading I hear people say that all the time and I'm just assuming they got an answer for something they got to download right but if I'm just assuming they got an answer for something. They got to download. Right.

But if I'm with spirit and I'm like communicating, wouldn't that be channeling? I really, yeah, I mean, I guess it would, but I think that what they've described is like the talking through and like your voice changes and all that's like trance channeling, I guess, I guess we can put a word in front of it. Like, who knows? Call it whatever you want. Call it a hamburger. I'm hamburgering.

I don't know. Who cares? Call it whatever you want to call it. We don't know. We really don't know. The thing is, is you're opening yourself up to negative and you're going to be talking to like the devil and stuff like that. Yeah. Or demons and stuff like that. I have a lot of people who believe in that. Yeah. Right. There's a lot of people that still believe in Santa Claus okay no one needs your money okay I'm sorry I forgot not really yeah tomato who cares what you call it right that's what I would say so I wouldn't consider myself a medium can you try um yes yeah and i have yeah i've experienced mediumship absolutely i've had yeah with my dad you know with my grandma with my best friend nisha and probably but i am clairvoyant so i follow visions physical and spiritual okay so it seems like mediumship often comes in like conversation with spirit or a past loved one.

That's what I, that's what it seems like most people have, right? And when it comes to mediumship or do some people just see, like I do scenes. So someone who's been trained and does a lot, the way we do it, people would probably think we're having full blown conversations, but it's not coming in as a symbol. It's coming in as a thought it's coming in as a feeling. Right. And so when I teach my students think of a puzzle piece, right? If I just got the clairvoyant piece, let's say I just got the tomato. Well, if I just stay with tomato, I don't know what that means. Does that make sense? Oh yeah. I see the tomato. I go into the tomato. I feel tomato i go into the tomato i feel tomato i hear the tomato

i feel i can put all the pieces together and say there's a crazy story about a tomato instead of just being she liked tomatoes right does that make sense it takes yeah they're not coming sitting right next to me this is what i tell my people like they're not sitting here talking to me in full sentences right they are connecting to my consciousness and they're talking to me through symbols, signs, even external, right? So my meeting on Friday, externally, I kept looking at this picture on the girl's mantle, right? And it was her, her wedding. And I was bringing through her friend's grandmother, but I kept looking at that picture. What happened was I was bringing through that girl's cousin. Well, he had married them, right? So externally he was trying to get me to say marriage and wedding,

but I was missing it, but I watch everything. I watch what I look at. I watch what I'm playing with. Like if I'm sitting here doing a reading, playing with my necklace, all your senses, all of them. Okay. So I do, I call it solely immers immersions actually one of my clients helped me name that but so I have noticed over hundreds of clients in my Reiki sessions and my Reiki sessions like evolved into something that was no longer really Reiki so it's hard to even say that anymore but I still teach it because I think it's a great foundation. Yeah. But I knew that I needed to bring them down into a brainwave for me to access them without resistance. So I started to do these meditations. Well, I was always bad at like remembering scripts. So I started just to whatever I saw, I would tell them what I was seeing. This is what I would walk them through.

Well, I noticed I was going to the same places with the same people oh yeah it was somewhere different every time but it was unique to them so it would always be with you Tracy that we went to this place and it would always be with this person and but it was so I never noticed until I did so many and they were all different and then it was like every time they'd come back I'm like oh my god didn't, didn't we? Oh my God, you only go there. You only see this guy. Like it was not just the place. It was also the guy. Yeah.

I kept on hitting it. Right. And I was like, I can't believe this is so crazy. And I'm really bad at writing down. So it was like over years, I probably would have been a lot better had I ever wrote down. So, but, and then, but and then because they would they would help me they'd be like okay bring me back to that tree I want to talk to my dad and I was like oh my god really and they're like yeah you brought me there like three times and I'm like oh my god

right yeah so it's interesting how I started to trust it the more I started to trust it the the real the more real it got and the more healing it got healing yeah because you trust so when I started to trust myself because I was like you at first too like no that was just a coincidence I must make it up every time I see her for some reason but yeah you know after you know hundreds of clients doing that. So then some of them couldn't see what I was seeing. Okay. They could feel it in the head of knowing. So I started to do the art. Okay. So then I create like a digital art piece of what I see. Nice. So it's really been cool because I've been able to show people like their spirit guides,

like what I see. And they're like, yes, that's exactly what I see or saw. So it's so cool. That's your validation right there. How unique. That's awesome. Yeah. It was really fun. And it just kind of evolved into its own thing, but I didn't consider it mediumship, but I guess in some way. Yeah. Cause you're opening up the channel. Someone's giving you that vision, right? Yeah. Well, and also I had, um, Dan Riendo had said, well, you're tapping into their Kashuk. And I was like, God, so all of these things where I kind of wish that I could do, you're in a classic record reader. Now put that on your resume. Yeah. Maybe in some ways that I, yeah, you are. Yeah. You're probably naturally at it,

especially if you're doing Reiki already. All it is, is about opening up. Right. So you're already starting to open. You already know about energy. You're already feeling it. So all mediumship is, is shifting your awareness. All right. Now I'm going to go talk to spirit. Right. And then just start saying what you're imagining and what you're feeling and what you're getting. Right. And you just go with it. You just go with it. And once you do, like you said, I do thousands now. I just trust it.

Like, okay, I might be wrong, but it's okay. But I trust now. Yeah. Oh my God. That's so great. See, cause we always laugh because Mandy definitely, you know, is medium. Yes, she. Okay. Yeah.

But I receive universal messages. It's big stuff. It's not for me and it's not for one person person it's for everybody the collective I've come to the point though Michelle where I'm like what do I do with this you know I have like over the past year it's been so much and then I'm like what do I do with it what do you do with it? What do you do with it? Yeah. Well, I mean, I've been starting to understand that and lead into that, but I think that most people think that they're like, oh, great. So I'm psychic. What do I do? What do I do?

Yeah. Like what? I know that used to really frustrate me. I would get messages for people I didn't know. Like I would get a visual and I would be like, okay. And I'd be scrolling through Facebook like the next day. And there's that picture of that person. And they committed suicide.

Why are you going to give me stuff if I don't know what to do with it? It just didn't feel. And someone told me this. We're not always meant to do anything with it. We're just plugging into the knowledge. You're just plugging into the knowledge. It doesn't mean you've got to go do anything, but you're plugging with the knowledge. What I get for you is if you're getting these things, I would start a journal with all of them and maybe compile a book later,

right? You're highly tuned in highly. Cause when I talk about meetingship, like I stay on the dead people level. And if you go past that, you're getting into the universal stuff. So I feel like you're so plugged in that you're even past the dead people. Like you're, you're up here. Yeah. You're getting all the universal stuff. My house is full of them. have a very very active house we've had paranormal investigations i don't mess with anyone i tell them listen i know a psychic down the street you should check her house out because i don't have time for you i'm so sorry help but all my kids you know also are very tuned into especially the energy in their house because it's so so crazy. And stuff moves all the time. It's bananas. Are your kids have, have they learned some of their abilities by watching you or have they

totally been like, So my oldest daughter became a medium too. Yeah. I didn't know that she is a medium. She's she's 32. And so she's a medium full-time my little daughter yeah I know is that crazy yes I know I love it she's one of the ones I'm estranged from so it's hard when we both walk the same journey yeah it's been difficult it's you would think it'd be amazing it was amazing because we could

always talk about things and bounce things off of each other. Right. But then the personal stuff came into be. So I was just, hopefully we can reconnect and play off of it. Cause we both do it. I was like, we could be the Winona Judd, right? We can do the whole, she had no part of it. She's like, heck no mother too. Okay. My middle daughter's more very analytical finance major she loves this stuff but she thinks we're cool but yeah very this my son though my son is 26 I know he's gifted he doesn't want anything to do with it right now right but he had a major out-of-body experience that scared the heck out of him so I know he's gifted he's just making him later when he's ready right now. He's like, no, thank you. Don't want to do it. He'll come to my events and stuff, but he's like, I don't want to talk to dead people. But I know he had an out

of body experience where he was floating above his body. Wow. Watching him in the bed. And he was screaming for me because he was freaked out so much. Right. And he did not sleep after that for probably four days because he was so afraid to go to sleep that it would do it again. He would leave his body again. So I know he's gifted. We just got to get him to come. So I'm just planting seeds within my kids, but my cousin can do this. I have a cousin in Virginia. Who's a medium. She's a trans media. So I think we're kind of in our blood and I just didn't know. No one would talk about it. Right. Well, you're just an abundance of wisdom um tell everybody about like your podcast and your website and then where everybody can get your book okay yeah so i do a podcast with

cassie clayton it's called metaphysical happy hour we are every other wednesday you can find all the information on my facebook page we go live we live stream to facebook and youtube and tiktok and we do like a 30-minute interview and then we do live readings on the air so i do that i also do readings locally in dallas texas area or in the charlotte north carolina area because i'm in both places and then i also do them all on zoom so you can find me at the red couch medium on facebook instagram or tiktok and then i do have a website, www.theredcouchmedium.com. You can also find my book on Amazon. So yeah, there's all the details on how to get ahold of me. You're so red couch, but you're also so just comfy too. You know,

like you have like this nice balance of being sexy and beautiful, but yet also that you're comfortable to me. So I think that's probably why so many ears are willing to hear you. Yeah. Thank you. You're beautiful too. Aw. And now it's time for break that shit down. Break that shit down. Break that shit down. I would tell you never compare yourself to anybody else. We're all on an individual journey of our own, right?

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