Senses Working Overtime with David Cross - Amber Tamblyn

Episode Date: January 25, 2024

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This is a Head Gum Podcast. So, one of us will sit here and one of us will sit there. No, I just saw another mic there so I was like, I was just confused. Yeah. I thought what was taking place. All right. You found the place with me? Oh, yeah. You felt gone.

I took a moment to try to convince Marlowe to come here with me just to... Well, on her way up to a doctor's appointment, and I thought it'd be funny if she came in for two seconds, but... Yeah, let's... She's providing great content with the question. She has, right? It's pretty good. It's really good.

Yeah. She's had some doozies. Yeah, I say. I've actually been kind of saving my powder in a sense because I've got some really kind of interesting esoteric ones that I've been saving because they've the the Interview so far I don't want to call it an interview the the talk whatever has been they've been really good and doesn't feel like they need that little Think so I just grab a Random question, but she's got some really great ones. Yeah. Did you win that for this? Yeah? Yeah, yeah And you won an on-air mic award.

I thought that's what you were pointing to. What was the other thing you were pointing to? The the gold Donald Trump headphones. No, no, I didn't I didn't win those. I stole those. It was it was a. It was like the last kind of caper that I pulled off. You know, I did the great train robbery.

Yeah, recreation of that. Yeah, but nobody gives a shit about mail anymore. So that was stupid. Um, and then yeah, I got the, I got the Mikey, which is, that's what that's called. A Mikey. Yeah. Um, what'd you win it for? A best use of Mike, just knowing, uh, Mike skills, you know, just being in the

general area of the Mike. Not to be too far or too close. Not to be too close. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not to talk too loud or... Right. And just, it's also about respect, you know, in an intrinsic way, you know, who... It's hard to quantify, but the top... Well, there's one one guy didn't really but i was surprised he was nominated but it's about a a showing respect in a way can you say who it was.

I mean can i is that cool yeah guys wanna call legal yeah i was Gavin Newsom. Yeah, it was Gavin Newsom, you know, and I just don't think he has a good understanding. I mean, I love some other aspects about him. This is not a reflection on him as a person or anything. I just don't think he has the podcast Mike skills that so many other deserving people do. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. I purposefully didn't wear my two necklaces.

You gave me just one of them because they clang together. It starts to sound like that. See, that will get you nominated for a mic. I'm kinda hoping. It's that kind of behavior and that kind of professionalism that will get you nominated for a mic. Oh, honey, thank you.

I mean, I'm not on the committee. I'm not, I'm just saying you should. Okay, guys, I'm gonna take off. Well, I'm not on the committee. I'm not. I'm just saying you should. Okay. Guys, I'm going to take off. Well, I could be on the committee. I could be. I could be. I know people.

I will know people on the committee. Do I get paid for this or is that it? Am I done? What else? You want to talk about what you got coming up? Let's see. Oh, I've got tonight. I've got a date night, super hot.

Well, this probably won't go out for a little while, so. Yeah, but date night's every week, so. Is it? It better be. Is it? Date night has to be every week. I think I told you a while ago, I was reading an article about,

it was a, this is years ago, but a family, they're both teachers, mom and dad and two kids. And they were, I can't remember where they lived in the state somewhere. And they decided to, things were getting bad. So they decided to go to, it was either the Caribbean or Mexico with some kind of idyllic, you know beach side thing and they were talking about their life and how it's better and it's worse in different ways and one of the things was the Success to part of their success to their marriage was that they have a date night once a month and I remember that they have a date night once a month. And I remember reading that and going once a month,

God, that motherfucker is so lucky, you know? And bringing that to your attention. Honey, we can do one night of weed and I'll do three nights with someone else. You already go out all the time. I'll do a date night with, I'll pick three different people if that makes you feel better. No, just one with you. It's the one with Timothy Chalamet. Sure, yeah, get him. See if we can

get him. Emma, Google Timothy Chalamet is the actor and his availabilities to go out on a date with my wife. Date night. Oh, he'll loan his Google account right up. Okay, thank you. It should be on his IMDB page, which night he's available to go out on a date night with my wife. It should be listed somewhere. Can I actually ask you both to just pull the mics in a bit closer? We're never getting nominated.

No. Thank you so much. Better? How's that? That's great. All right. You know, no, once a week is good. It is good. Especially because we don't, you, there's traveling involved, so it's not really once

a week. Yeah. I mean, I think just even the effort that we make, you know, to say like once a week, we have time together, we like get to go have a beer, have great food, enjoy each other's company. Since our lives and careers are so dependent on work and where that might take us or changes from minute to minute. And our psychological outlook is dependent on work. I know it's true for both of us. I actually told a friend of mine, which I've which I've, I, we always have loved, like,

we often try to go get a beer or something at the end of the day as like, you know, not even a date, but just like a, I almost think of it as like a check in, like a, you know, a minute. Don't under, don't undersell the importance of the beer part. That's important. Yes, and a good beer. And a good beer. And a good beer. A good Guinness.

Yeah, we get to go to. But I don't think I had, I think I had undervalued how kind of important that is, both for you and I as a couple, but just to drink, to drink at home. No, no, I said that to my friend Priya and she was like, oh my God, that's amazing. At the end of the day, you reserve the time you have left with childcare for one hour with your partner to just talk about the day. Like, you know, to go have a beer, but to talk about or not to talk when we sit there sometimes in silence, sometimes we look at our phones, sometimes we're, we get so deep

in conversation. I, you know, beg Stacey to stay an extra half hour. Like, I just think that that's a, it's, it's a privilege, but it's also just like a good reason, I think, for why we have such a good relationship. I think the alcohol has a lot to do with it, too. I think you're... I really want to go back to that part, because we've been up know to get our kid off to school and everything, we get up at seven, which isn't crazy, but you know, so by the end of the day, it's been, was that 10 hours? Yeah. So, and you know, literally by the end of the day, not the end of the night and all that. And yeah, it's nice to go out and just also check in

with all the stuff we've got, the responsibilities we have, things that we've done, I called the plumber, et cetera, et cetera. And then hang out with our, I hang out with while you when you go out and meet Whichever friend it is for drinks. There's so many there are But then there's my my date nights with Timothy. Yeah

I'm gonna factor those in. How was your night last night with your editor? Um, it was great. Yeah It was really nice as I went and hung out with my friend who's also my editor for the New York Times has done a couple pieces there with me and it was nice. We talked, we talked a little bit about the world, but not too much. We also mainly talked about she works, she's working on a, on a podcast that I love very much called The Run Up, which will be out by the time still that this is happening. And I just was picking her brain all about it because I'm, as you know, fascinated by American politics. And I think Estette Herndon is a really brilliant political reporter. So Rachel gets to be on, gets to help produce his podcast

and I think it's really awesome. So it was a good, it was a nice dinner. It's good. Good. What did you all eat? Went to Kai. That just reminded me of something. It was,

podcast, your friend. it was... ...podcast your friend... Emma, can you replay the last 15 minutes? All right, I'll think of it in a second. It was something to do... All right, forget it. Let's move on. Sorry, apologize. Do you know what number of guests I am? Like what, how many people you've had on? And I assume this won't be in order, it'll be. No, it won't be in order.

I think you're the... Eight, I believe? Are we around there? Yeah, about eight. Eight, nice. Wait, one, two, three, four, five, six, yeah, eight. And there's no limit. Like you're just gonna keep going

until you feel like the season is done No, I I'm legally obligated to do 520 520 episodes back to back. Yeah, so that would be 512 left. Yeah. Yeah Which means I gotta get 512 more questions from Marlowe. Yeah, this has been good. And as I said, I think you, this is kind of up your alley.

You would enjoy it. Yeah. I mean, I, you know, that's some of what I do with my newsletter, listening in the dark. Plug that, tell it. Yeah. Oh, listening in the dark. It's a newsletter that I started about a year ago. We're actually coming up on the one year anniversary, um, in the beginning of 2024.

And you're going to have a party or celebrate it? Um, I don't think so. I'll probably like write an essay for it, but I think, uh, I think you don't want to rent like a rooftop at a hotel or something like in Soho. I mean with your credit card. Sure No, I don't want to do that. I I think you know You very smartly got off social media, which I think is for the most part I think you plug obviously doing your tours and stuff like that. Yeah, but I'm not on it I never put anything on there. I don't know and there anymore. I know, and you used to be.

I mean, we used to both sit on the couch and look at Twitter, RIP. We used to be looking, I think, a lot more and a lot more engaged and it's just become, or maybe it's always just been a horribly volatile, numbing place. It's terrible.

And that's why I got off way before any of the current awfulness. And I got it when my phone busted for the last time for good and I had to replace the phone. And I got a new phone and I had to transfer everything. I purposely didn't transfer that. And that, when did, I mean mean that's like a year ago. Yeah Well, I felt that which is why I started a newsletter was just I First of all, I wanted I wanted my writing to not feel have so much pressure I wanted to feel like I could just like put out a you know, we just did a recent essay on like

the audacity of Dermot McRoonie And his on like the audacity of Dermot Mulrooney and his... You know, he changed his name. He did? Yeah, to Dermot Mulrooney. Wait, how do you pronounce his last name? It was Mulrooney, Dermot Mulrooney. Thank you, my brain.

But he changed... It was also Dylan McDermott. No, absolutely, I would never. No, but just sort of talking about romcoms, which you know I love. Which one was the one in Independence Day? I always get those two mixed up. No, but just sort of talking about rom-coms, which you know I love. Which one was the one in Independence Day? I always get those two mixed up.

It's either- I don't know. One was in Independence Day and one was in... That I have no idea. It was like the porn satire of Independence Day. It was like in this penis gay, I think it was called. They're not very clever names when they do the parodies, but you know. I'm not seeing either of them at Independence Day.

It's either Dermot Paxdom or Dermot Pullman. Oh. Dermot. Oh, wow. I see. Bill Pullman? Bill Pullman. That's it. Why did we bring up Bill Pullman. Oh, wow. I see. Bill Pullman? Bill Pullman. That's it. Why did we bring up Bill Pullman? Because one of them is always mixed up for the other one.

Oh, I mean, that's impossible to me. That's so crazy. But I just think that anyway, I only brought this up to talk about my love of rom-com is what you know I love. And you do not and that that's fine and no I like a good rom-com. I just don't like Rom-com that you love Silence of the lambs Jesus That that too the story of Jesus last temptation of Christ No, I mean I you know what I really enjoyed I don't think it came it came out The story of Jesus? Last temptation of Christ.

No, I mean, you know what I really enjoyed? I don't think it came out, I don't know if you can find it, but oh, you saw this with me, I think. They came together, the David Wayne, I think Wayne and- Which kind of mocked the format of a rom-com. Yeah, it was so great. It was really, really funny. Amy Poehler and Paul Rudd.

So good. So good. So underrated that movie. I really liked it. Well, I didn't really, I mean, it was here and gone in a second. Yeah. I don't think it did much, but.

That's, from what I understood, because I remember we watched, we're like, this is great, how come nobody talked about it? And I think it's because people genuinely thought it was a real rom-com. Well, David showed me a review. Yeah, that's so people misunderstood the whole point of it. This is a guy who's done nothing but comedy movies.

And that type of comedy movie, he already did, you know, Wet Hot American Summer. And I think it was him and Ken, Marina wrote it. And it's just kind of spot on really funny, perfect thing. And all the dumb cliches, it's very hallmark, you know, like one of those hallmark things, which I think I told you this, I got, it was part of the tour where I was out for a while because I was shooting Umbrella Academy

in between the things. So I was out for like, when I structured this last tour, it was so that I could go out for three, four days, come home for three or four days. But there were twice, there were chunks in there where I had to fulfill this other responsibility to work acting stuff. So these three or four days, I couldn't go home. I had to go to Toronto and shoot those episodes. And so I was gone for like 19 days.

I was like the longest stretch in the whole run. And I got really, I really got into really, I really got into in an obsessive way the hallmark things. I remember this and you were texting me either screenshots or just texting me the names of some of them going like, I can't even believe this exists. It's they're all, first of all, I didn't know this until I was and I'd be like, you know, because it's a, you know, being out on the road is a lonely mistress. And, you know, you're just your your hours are completely fucked up and you're sitting in your hotel room and you're scrolling because you can't sleep. And then I got obsessed with watching like I have to know how this is what

corny bullshit cliche this is gonna end in and it's all complete like talk about AI writing something AI could easily write every single thing you see on the home there's and there's like seven channels there's sub. There's like just Christmas. Yes, oh yeah, oh yeah. Then there's just holidays, which could be Thanksgiving or, probably not Purim, but you know, like 4th of July, whatever, there's like holiday themed.

Then there's just regular stuff and it's almost always, somebody from a big city goes to a small town. Oh, yeah. And I mean, 80% of them are someone from the city who's, you know, forgotten how to enjoy life and the simpler pleasures and is always on their phone and has to do a meeting and, you know, goes back either back home or has to go a reporter or a lawyer or the somebody who runs a, you know, a business has to go to the small town. Do you remember the one there was one that you sent me a picture of that had a title and I don't remember what it was that was the most ridiculous. I'll see if it comes to me, but there was a couple that you would send that I thought

were fake for sure. But yeah, anyway, those are not the rom-coms. I've actually been in one. Did you know that? Yeah, yeah. A Hallmark one. I think we were just starting to go out when you were... Yeah, and you were like, that's the girl for me.

Yeah. That's what I want. I want to make fun of this 16 years from now. Yeah, they're just the best one I ever saw just because of its audacity of it was the girl who finds out she's Jewish. She was adopted and she finds out her birth mother, biological mother was Jewish and that completely throws her out of whack. And it's just the, it's terrible. It's so bad, but I'm talking good enough to be funny. Yeah, of course. Some of them are just boring, but the clichedness where you can just plug in any good-looking actor, any good-looking actress, and just, you know, it's... And there's something I really came to appreciate about him. And also at the kind of at that time,

we had the ill-fated project, Guru Nation that Bob and Bill Odenkirk and I wrote and were hoping to shoot, had one of the lead characters that his life's aspiration was to make Hallmark rom-com movies. And then Bill wrote up this like brief little thing. It was like Thanksgiving in Christmas Town or something like that or a Thanksgiving time in Thanksgiving-Ton or something like that.

And it was just so silly. And then we expanded on it. And I wrote up this, I actually wrote like a scene, like almost a thing, and we were kind of swapping it around. And it was so fucking fun to do and so dumb and funny. It was like, maybe this is its own thing, you know, this could be its own thing. Yeah, Thanksgiving in Christmas Town or whatever it was, Bill wrote that one up. You could do that. Does it sound? That sounds like an AI title, like you said.

It's, if anything, could be written by outside of like new country music. If anything could be written by AI, it's... A romcom? It's a Hallmark romcom. A Hallmark romcom. Yeah, that is kind of, it's different than the regular ones too, the ones that I wrote about in a particular essay. You were talking about big budget movies with Sandra Bullock and Meg Ryan.

But also very specific ones that elicit a kind of like dopamine response and a kind of joy that is of course cheesy but very, very cathartic in a world that's like sad and numbing in a lot of ways. And I also briefly talked about which my editor of my newsletter was like, we should go into this more. I was like, I feel like this is a separate conversation, but that it's not just about romance. You know, I think things like Harold and Mod and with Neil and I, I think those are buddy rom-coms. You know, the rom-coms. It's about love in a different way. It's about... It is. Well, I mean, sure. I mean, it is. But I think there's like, this is my perception of it anyway. And I think

romcom comes with such a, can come with such a narrow lens. And I think the idea of like love between two people or or or love over a common thing that is loved by two people to me is what a rom-com can carries what the term can can mean. Sure. If you were to expand it beyond what we know from it or like, you know, the 10 things I hate about you, is sort of more traditional straightforward ones. Hey everybody, it's your old pal Dave here. I'm letting you know that this show episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Now let me ask you something. What are some things you want to keep the same about yourself or your life in 2024? Where are you already crushing it? Think opposite of New Year New You. Around New Years we get obsessed with how to change ourselves instead of just expanding

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Is it really? Yeah. Oh, wow. You should have him on this podcast. Okay, done. You're like every person I sat next to on a plane in the 90s and they're like, what do you do? Oh, I'm a stand-up comedian. Oh, you should get on the Tonight Show. Oh my god, you're right. I remember my mom once going, you should play Meryl Streep's daughter.

That's what you should do. And I was like, you know what, mom, you're right. Let me get on it. Let me get I'll get I'll get right on it. Would you make some calls? I'll give you 10%. Oh my goodness. I'm sorry I interrupted you. The you brought it back to the thing you wrote about romcoms. Yeah, I wasn't even bringing that up to talk about romcoms.

Other than to say that I wanted a place for my writing and my work to not have the pressure of. You know being having to be a book which has to be you know very. Very sharp very well thought out arguments about things and or things for the New York Times or the Cut or the New Yorker places where I've written that also have to have that. But also, I think in recent years, because of the political landscape is being published less and less because either there's sort of fear about talking about that or people just want to publish, you know, they're not necessarily interested in evergreen writing writing on big concept things. They want writing that is of the moment, that's happening right now, that feels like it's

worthy of going viral or something like that. To me, what I really loved about the sub-stack model and about starting a newsletter was really the sense of having a community where people can return to it and expect the same thing and and Just a place to sort of and there's not an obligation writing You know you're not well there is because people pay some people no No, I mean I don't mean an obligation to put something out there, but there's not an obligation to always you know comment on the Yeah, what's happening in Israel or Gaza or...

Well, there's none of that. I mean, that's the other thing is that social media, this change happened last year when my book of the same name, Listening in the Dark, came out. Instagram had changed its algorithms, and I think anyone who's on it remembers this. Suddenly you weren't seeing the people that you quote unquote followed who are people's pages you like to see. You were seeing whatever it dictated and whatever the algorithm wanted you to see. That was Twitter, I think, wasn't it? It was Instagram and I'm sure it was Twitter too, but Instagram had a huge thing where they

made a full pivot towards Reels, which are essentially the videos that they so they wanted people to be posting less photos and more reels in order to create Subscribable pages so that you can get paid and therefore sub that's therefore Instagram can get paid. What if your content? Why did I start getting so much porn? Probably because you were searching porn at some point. Is that what does it? That might do it. All right because yeah, I was wondering, I'd put like just, you know, Titwank, right? And then, you know, hoping to- Hot, hot tibby, sexy hot tibbies. No, no, this is a-

Amber Tamblyn lookalikes. Titwank is an English confection. It's like a chocolate thing. I mean, it's like a Bon Bon, but English. And so I wanted to get some, I wanted to find out where I could get those in the States if you can get them in the States. And I was bombarded with the most... It sounds like an excuse. It sounds like an excuse. Well, you can call it what you will, but I'm telling you a fact. I put in the search bar, tit-wank. Tit-wank?

One word, tit-wank. And then I just started getting just real... Tit-wanks, lots of that. Well, I don't know what a tit-wank is, but I'll tell you what the images came up. Right. It was filthy. It was nothing that Mike Johnson would ever condone. By the time this comes out, no one's gonna know who that is. Look, look, there were a man taking his filthy, disgusting, hmm-. And putting it between a woman's. No, no, a woman's. No.

Ne-ro-m. Close, closer. Squish squish. Nope. Oh. Yeah. And then doing, you know, whatever that is where the white stuff comes out. I don't know.

I don't want to know, you know, and that's why I'm an orthodox Jew. I don't, because I want to know, I want to limit my ability to no pleasure. Yep. Remember my old joke about when I see a young Orthodox girl, you know, like an astrologer crying, just screaming, crying, it's like, oh, she just found out what her life is going to be like. It's horrible. You guys know, you got it? Yeah. Oh, she just found out what her life is going to be like. It's horrible. You guys know that you get it? Yeah.

And then I follow up with no choices. No choices. No choices. You don't get to make any choices. How fitting that you'd say, oh, I did say that. Sorry, I just been adjusting the levels. I'm sorry, Amber, would you mind just moving your mic in a little bit more? How about now? So let's tell everybody, I know this will be way after the fact, but...

Is this good? Yes. That is good. Thank you. Sorry. What you... And I can't see her as well, so thank you. Oh, all right.

You're... Okay. I can't see her as well, so thank you. Oh, all right. You're okay. Tell everybody what your Halloween costume was this year. My Halloween costume this year. Wasn't long ago. I know, I didn't have one. You didn't have one? Didn't have one. Oh, I thought, okay, I thought you were, I thought you were, you went as

non-binary Hamas. No, that's definitely not what I went as. Really? No, for sure. Well, I mean, I was just guessing that from, so what was it? You, so you didn't have anything, was just regular? No, I had, I had, I went as a six-year-old chaperone. I had a weird pink wig on. I was kind of like a little bit like 90s era Gwen Stefani meets the Joker. I don't know what I was doing. I like took all my makeup and spread it all over my face and then had a pink wig on.

It was a weird. See to me, no doubt vibe. It seemed very much like when somebody who's not that familiar with American culture comes over and back in the like early 80s late 70s early 80s makes a film about America and the future and like in 1999, you know, and then that's like the what the future of America is going to look like, like a punk. Just like a punk sad mom. Somebody who has no no concept of what that was, but it sort of has a vague just through, you know, certain imagery and stuff from their country.

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So as you know, vampire butterfly is a four piece. No, what was the best part of her costume? The best part of the costume was that we had a whole idea for the makeup on her face to make her look like this vampiric butterfly and she was not having it. She wanted to do her own vampire butterfly makeup, which was fine. I was just good at that. Oh, right. I know. And then she did like the little blood on her chin down her. And then in the mirror, she wrote- She looked in the mirror. She looked in the mirror and she wrote in the mirror boo

on her forehead but that means when you looked at her in person it was backwards so she was walking around with a backwards boo in black writing right across her forehead it was pretty cute. Pretty cute. It was pretty cool. To us, not to anybody else. Yes. And then, but this is a kid who has quite a good vivid imagination and two years ago

went as a volcano. She wanted to go as a volcano. She did go as a volcano. And you made her a volcano outfit. And she's also, she's very much into dark, spooky, scary things except for Wallace and Gromit for whatever reason. She's terrified of Wallace and Gromit for whatever reason, she's terrified of Wallace and Gromit. And I tried to show her one and she had she made me stay in the bed and hold her. Really?

Yeah, I'm completely terrified. I don't know if it was like the claymation or what, but this she's seen other claymation stuff. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, this is a kid who watches Fantasia and went for Halloween as the creature, the monster from Night on Bald Mountain at the end of that movie that's like the scary mountain top demon. And she's like, I wanna be that for Halloween when she was four. And here she's afraid of like a Wallace and Gromit bunny,

that vampire bunny that eats all the vegetables. Well, I can sort of see that if you're six. I guess. You know, well, tell everybody, your gold medal parenting thing that you did recently. What did I do? About what you showed her, what you allowed her to watch.

I have a lot of gold medal statement, which one? Well, I was being facetious, so think of that. What did I allow her to watch? Very recently. Oh, Wednesday? Yeah. Or you were beating yourself up for that. Yeah, I allow her to do? Very recently. Oh, Wednesday? Yeah. Or you were beating yourself up for that.

Yeah. I did let her watch Wednesday, which I think is a pretty great show. But the first couple... For a six-year-old? Well, no, the first couple episodes were not bad. It wasn't until they introduced this... The hide. Yeah, the hide, this creature that is very strange or thing.

She still talks about it. I know, I get it. Yeah. And she had to sleep in our bed and she was scared and... Yeah, I know. Listen, everybody's gotta, everyone's gotta learn at some point. Especially her. Especially her. Teacher Young ought to be terrified. Yeah. All right.

Is this the best interview you've had so far? I mean, in in in think about it. Yeah, yeah, in certain ways, no, but in other ways, also not no, no, not yet, not yes, no. I mean, best. What is best? What is it? The funniest? No, are people laughing as much as they did at the other ones? Absolutely not. It's probably Bob, as they did at the other ones? Absolutely not.

It's probably Bob, right? I imagine your other wife. We had a lot of good, but they were just silly, funny. They're all different. They all have different values. There's plenty of value in this one. Have you had Janine on yet?

You have, right? Yeah, yeah. And I did, I brought up the thing about making a documentary. You did? What did she say? Well, what she, you know, brought up the thing about making a documentary. And you did? What did she say? Well, what she, you know, absolutely not. No, won't have it. Fuckin' Jimmy. You know, I'll do it.

I'll be as inobtrusive. You can, you know, but no. So you got to keep pushing her on it. See, this is what happens when you live with someone, you just run out of conversation because you're like, we lived here. It's the best. I mean, what you're missing right now is a TV set that's playing something on it.

Or two beers, and we just pause to check our phones. And we still have to finish the last of us, right? We have two more episodes, one more episode. I was just talking to somebody about that Nick Offerman episode. Awesome, amazing. And how that was like a standout piece of television, just really, really good. It was beautiful, he, I texted him and told him

that it was just beautiful and it was amazing. Did you all see that? Yeah. Yeah. So good. And also the other guy the The other guy that's a little you know what I mean that though really the only other actor and it's the guy It's the white lotus. Yeah, who I said I was like for it very early on I was like when he was in the hole I was like is that Rob Delaney? Murray Bartlett Murray Bartlett. Yeah, it was just fantastic.

The whole episode is beautiful. And yeah, it was, and it just. It's also, it was also the kind of episode where I feel like they could have made, they could have made that a whole season about them meeting and about their life. And I'm glad they didn't. No, I'm glad they didn't either. That to me is good writing, like that they actually, you know, they made it one solid piece. Yeah. Yeah, I'm really enjoying it. I never played the game, though, but I heard great things about the game. But it also, if anything, it will hopefully,

will hopefully, I know a lot of people are ignorant to the storytelling and the craftsmanship in video games and how singular and moving a good game can be. Yeah. And sometimes poignant, sometimes scary. Did you play the game? I didn't. I literally just said, now that's our marriage in a nutshell. I literally less than- You know what I'm doing?

I zoned out for a minute and I was like, oh, he's wearing Johnny Pizzolato's hat. And I wonder, cause today's, yeah. Today's voting election day. Today's election day. And I was just thinking to text him. But you're absolutely right. I just very much zoned out all the way out.

No, I never played it. But I, as I said, I heard really good things about it, but I'm not a big scary game guy. I played them. I thought Prey was amazing and did you ever play that video game? The last of us. Yeah. Yeah, several times over and over again. Yeah. And did you ever

play it? Have you ever played a video game beyond Mario Kart? Um, yes, I played Tetris. No, I meant after Mario Kart. Oh, Sega. I was like big into like the Sega platform. The Sega stuff. What is it? Sonic the Hedgehog. What an anti-nerd. Sonic the Hedgehog I was super into. You non-nerd. No, Sega was a platform. There's been so many times that you have asked me, like, hey, this is a game I really think you would love,

and I just don't have the capacity for it, I don't think. Well, you don't know yet. I mean, they work on very successful tricks. And in the sense of psychological reward, they meet out these rewards. I get you to psychologically, you're like, oh, I went through this whole thing, and now I got this reward and I can go through that door and then you just want to go through that door And then you had a playing some more. It's not a bad thing. It's a it's a you know convention that I mean goes back to You know gambling and stuff, but There's so many great well acted well really imaginative singular

Games that don't that that story and that feeling does not exist anywhere else. You, the, I've told you about this one, I'm not gonna ruin it for people I haven't played it, but the ending of the first Bioshock game- You have mentioned this many times. Was one of the most, like I have had less than 10 of those experiences, even in movies or books where I was like, I never saw it coming. It was such a brilliant twist that I never saw coming.

And it was just, I still think about it. And there are these games, you know, the one I played, the shoot that somebody had recommended, Life is Strange, amazing. Where you kind of choose options and the story follows and just. I feel like for me, I don't know. And part of this is just like, I would like to read more books, which a lot of people think. I know everybody says that. Everyone says that.

But I read a lot of poetry books, but I don't. But you read book books. I do, but there's just you gonna let that one slide. You're not gonna that I said book books instead of like, but there's just you. You're going to let that one slide? What? You're not going to let that I said book books instead of like, like, foot poetry books. No, it's more just about ignoring. I think that, I think that like, you read so many different kinds of authors and you're always saying, if you read, you know, this author, if you read all of Dennis Johnson's, like I haven't even read all of Dennis Johnson's books and I love him as a writer. You introduced me to Train Dreams, which is one of my favorite books and still haven't read all of his work. And so-

Oh, that's, I wouldn't even put that in his top five. See? So to me, I feel like I can't start learning the world of video games until I have read some more books. And also, I said this to Rachel last night at our dinner. I have been with you for 16 years and I still don't understand baseball probably as well as I should, you know. Well, you have a, well you've come a long way. I feel like I really got into it this last time. I really did.

You certainly know more than you did. And the more you know, and this is applicable to any sport across the board, the more you know, the more you appreciate it. Yeah, definitely. I remember watching. I'd love to get into a place though, where I don't have to ask you questions every three seconds.

Well, that takes a long time. I mean, there's a lot going on. Does it take longer than 16 years or? Yeah, probably just a couple. You just have to pay attention and retain what I, so when you ask me a question and I give you the answer, you remember that answer instead of just- Have you played The Last of Us? But you also read so many poetry books because that's, you have a, I mean, obviously you

have a love for it, but you, there's also a sense of obligation too, because you have to- Yeah, that's true. I mean, for reviewing or whatever, but I'm also, I feel. But you read a lot. You really do. I guess I do. The only person I know who reads more than you is Bob. Your mom.

My mom reads, yeah. Yeah. Suzy reads a lot. Yeah. I'm actually really looking forward to her coming in tomorrow. I'm picking David's mom up at the airport. He is. And then I'm leaving town.

Did you get any clarity on whether she needs to be? No, I need to text Wendy and find out. I also just need to figure out what her, I assume it's Delta. Delta, yeah. Yeah. But no, I think it'll be nice to sit and read and I'm sure she's gonna come with books for Marlowe.

It'll be nice to watch my mom read. It's nice to watch my mother-in-law read. Sit quietly and read. I just will consider it her for seconds. Wow, she does that. That's something that our daughter is doing right now on purpose, which is, I have a friend of ours, David, his daughter, Sochi.

He said that she's doing the same thing about, I think his food and he's an amazing cook. But Marlowe was saying to me often, I hate reading, books are dumb. Reading is boring. And then she kind of just stares at you waiting for a reaction. Right.

It's pretty funny to watch them try to manipulate the situation. Well, I told you she read in the car the other day, just by herself, she picked up the, she's like, oh, this book is funny, the cranky chicken book. And then just read it. Yeah. And there were two words that she stumbled on. I told her what they were, but other than that, she read a bunch. And then when I was saying,

oh, that's great, it's really impressive, I'm proud of you, then she didn't, she was like, I don't wanna read anymore. That's too many pages for the next chapter. So I don't wanna read, and then when you compliment her, she shrivels or shirks back and becomes like, I don't want to do that. No.

You just reminded me when I left the house, I tried to get her to come by. I just, just for a minute, because she has to go uptown for a doctor's appointment. But I was like, do you want to just come by for a minute? Well, surprise daddy. We'll go, we'll go, he's doing a podcast where he talks to people and he's gonna talk to me today. And she goes, I don't wanna hear daddy talk. That was it. Yeah, I think a lot of people feel that way.

Do you remember when I was like, this is she hit me and then kissed me. she hit me and then kissed me. And I was like, that is my relationship with every woman encapsulated. They wanna hit me and they also wanna kiss me. I think that tracks. Yeah, I was like that. And I, yeah, nothing but women in my life.

And they- We were super uncomplicated God you just wrote. Oh, yeah, I'm glad you clarified Why she's going uptown Well, I just thought it was weird that I'm like yeah, our six-year-old's going uptown She's taking the F to the to the Q to the you know, why would you taken the F to the Q to the, you know. Why would you take the F to the Q? You're right. I mean, why would you just...

That's fair. The C to the F is really what I meant. You could do that, yeah. Take the C to the F makes more sense. From where we're in Brooklyn, so. No, but I thought she has an appointment with her lawyer, no? No, she's going to the doctor. Oh, okay.

She's going to get a massage. She's really, she's going to the doctor. Oh, okay. She's going to get a massage She's really stressed out It's really well, it's really stress. We're being in first grade. Yeah, one of my favorite things That just cracks me up all the time although there's an innocent kid in the mix is You can tell who dressed her, you know, when she's out going to school, if you go pick her up, you would know who dressed her, whether it was me or her. If it's, you know, 62 degrees, and she's, yes, yes, absolutely, yes.

If you don't like it, you should take a step back and look at this. No, that's not. She's bundled up with a... Such an exaggeration. It is not. It is. Absolutely it is not. No.

Emma? Could you Google? No, it's not. It is because she... I don't dress her. What did you show everybody how you dressed? And what was the first thing I said to you when I walked in here? What was the first thing I said?

Um, honey, I'm home. I said, honey, I'm over way overdressed. Yeah. But do you, that's par for the course. Well, no. All right. You, but I did say that. And also I with Marlowe.

So that's an example. Hang on. I'm talking that I let her wear her what she wants to wear and I ask her to go outside and feel outside the door what her temperature is. And if she says I'm cold or whatever, I give her something whereas you are the opposite and you're just like, you know, suck it up. I survived Boston for 20 years and I'm, you know. Those words have never come out of my mouth.

I mean, more or less. How about less? No, but you will quite often, you have a winter coat and a hat, and it's not even close to that. But that's how you'll send her out. And so we get it. You don't know this because I take her to school and she gives me the coat. And so we get, you don't know this, because I take her to school and she gives me the coat

and she gives me that, she runs around. But aren't there also times when you take her to school and she goes, daddy, I'm cold, I want mittens, pick me up, I'm cold. So it's not really a good indicator then. No, but some of that is she just wants to be picked up and carried, but she senses, I believe, part of it is because we say as much,

but that she's getting a little old to be carried everywhere. Yeah, well, definitely, she's getting heavy. Yeah, and I think she's, well, just old age. I mean, if she was a tubby, I would still carry her. But you know what I mean? Like I think she gets a sense that that time of her life is going, is ending.

And she, so she wants more than ever, she's like meh, meh, and she does it in like a baby talk thing. And she wants to be carried. Cause I do think she's getting an understanding like, oh, you're getting a little big for this. Yeah. You know. Well.

We should tell everybody she's 15. That'd be amazing. That would be amazing. I'm just imagining a 15 year old in that little portable stroller we have, pushing her down the street. You know, I've told you that I don't overdress her unless she wants her gloves,

you know, in her jacket. I'm never going to deny her any of that stuff. I'm just not going to start off that way because I know because I know that she's going to take it off and she's gonna give it to me. Yes, and what I know is that she will also do the opposite which is go, I'm cool, I don't want to walk, pick me up. But she's talking about being freezing, she's shaking, even though she's not. I know she's not. I think she is sometimes. I think she is. You just contradicted yourself. No, I think sometimes she is sometimes. I think she is. You just contradicted yourself.

No, I think sometimes she is cold. You literally just said she's not, and then you said, I think she is sometimes. Within 10 seconds. Sometimes. Sometimes I think that she is. I think that she means that, and obviously the word freezing,

when she says, I'm freezing, that's what I mean, she's not. The prosecution rests. She's not freezing, but she's cold, right? I think that underdressing her is also not good. Well, yeah, it's not a matter of semantics. I don't think that she's... I think it is a matter of semantics.

You think she's like saying, I'm literally 32 degrees. No, but for someone who is so serious about words mattering the way that... Yes. You know, the way that you do... Yes. What I'm talking about is that she's not freezing, but she is cold. So she goes out, she's cold. She wants something on, but also there are times when she wants to take it off. Yes, I just... I will fight you on this. Clearly. All right. Well, we'll check back in and let everybody know who won this argument.

20 years. We'll see how she deals with the onset of fall when she's 18 years old. I'm also worried about, I shouldn't say worried. I'm conscious of figuring out middle school. Yeah, I know. Because we are in an amazing elementary school, but not a great middle school area. We're not zoned for a- Well, there's potential for, you know, for a new school might be opening up

in our neighborhood I heard about. What? I think I told you this. One of the moms was telling me, oh, Coco's mom told me that there might be one opening over near sort of up the street from us near school, another school. I'm being vague because I don't want to talk about our kids school. Okay. But I think she's gonna be fine. I was just talking to, you know, I mean, that might be that might be short-sighted, but I was talking to two friends who were debating whether to put

their, you know, little girl in 3k or pre-k private school or public school and they're zoned in a really great area in Brooklyn. And I said, I would save that money. I mean, like, you know, you two don't need to buy good culture for her. You are the culture and they are. They're two artists. They're one's an award-winning playwright and his husband is an artist and a dancer and a, you know, performer're giving her a great relationship to art and surrounding her with artists and people and good experiences. And that's a lot to do with your upbringing. We talked about this, you know, obviously before, you know, as she entered the world and as time went on and as it got closer to having to figure out school, but I was very,

I felt very strongly that barring some extreme that I wanted her to go to public school because It's not simply the education that you're getting with two plus two equals four and I before C, but except for whatever, I before E except- Dermot Mulroney. Dermot Mulroney, say it three times fast. Declan McMurray. And there's value, you know, there's other value and there's, which obviously, you know, we talked about this at length and you understand and know and agree. And, you know, there's value that's simply beyond the...

Academics. The education. Yeah, the... I talked about this in the last tour, you know, the last stand-up special the the diversity and social skills she's Encountering and our Just as value. Yeah, you know, obviously if there was any kind of we if we felt that she wasn't learning

Well, or she wasn't in an atmosphere that was stimulating and we would take her out. But I mean, she's excelling, she's doing really well. And she's learning skills that you might not necessarily get in all upper class. A lot of it is the class system too, the economics. You don't want to be with a bunch of rich kids. Yeah. I mean, my mom is a conflict resolution facilitator, but she's also worked in private schools in Los Angeles and the LA Unified School District for a very long time. She also worked in public schools. As did your mom, who was a, Suzie was a English teacher. That's where I get it from. Do you guys know David taught himself to read at the age of four? Yeah, she tried to.

Susie once told me that and I was like, oh my god, that's why he's so insufferable. I didn't though. There's no way. I did not teach myself how to read. I'm going to go edit your Wikipedia page right now and I'm going to put that. I was like, mom, I did not teach myself to read. David Cross is an actor, comedian and sadist who taught himself to read at the age of three. I was like, that's not true. Some she was some myth she's trying to create. I love it. I love it. No, it's simply not true. I didn't learn. Oh, but. So it says that my mom, I mean, would be like one of the first people to tell you,

you know, the problems that are within private school systems, you know, and the kind of entitlement that that creates in the world, especially for white kids, you know, rich, rich white kids. And, you know, that's not an issue in public schools as well. There's a really amazing podcast called Nice White Parents that came out of the New York Times about parents in Brooklyn in particular sort of taking over public school and charter school places. Oh, that was like a serialized thing that ended up being... Yeah.

Oh, yeah, I read kind of a synopsis of the story. It sounds fascinating. It was a story about one particular school, but... It was in part slope, right? I think so, yes. But yeah, so I see the benefits in the same way you do of the public school system and understand that it's also very complicated. I think I had read some article recently on all this very sad stuff that happened at St. Anne's school where a student took his life.

And there was a sentence in there that really encapsulated all of it for me and I'm paraphrasing here, but it said, private schools have the means but not the, it wasn't the resources, but it was like they have the means, but they don't have the care or the- I remember that, I remember and then- What is the word? And the public schools, you know, have the care but not the resources. Care was not the word, but it was close to that. And I thought, ah, that's kind of, that kind of sums it up because I guess there's an expectation when you're paying $50,000 a month, a year.

That's a better being, yeah. That you should be able to handle all of it. Don't you dare call us for a, you know. Oh, I thought you were gonna say something. Yeah, it's, but it's also the, I think parents play a bigger, the psychology of the parents as human beings and their flaws play a bigger part in reflecting onto the kid, the student when it comes to private schools, because there's status involved

that just isn't in public schools. And the status is a weird thing to put on your kid and a weird thing to teach your kid. I mean, it's an unfortunate part of life and not that you don't get this in different ways in a public school or with people of less means but it's really a big part of

private schools and getting into the right school the whole Application that's why people cheat to you know and bribe to get their kids and these things It's not like I wanted to be the CEO of a you know, and bribe to get their kids and these things. It's not like I wanted to be the CEO of a, you know, aerospace company, you know, it's about a lot of it is status and how it reflects on the parents. Yeah. And- I had somebody tell me that that was one of the reasons

to go to St. Anne's was that it was more about networking with the parents than it was the actual school, which I thought was pretty telling. Yeah. I don't know if that's true for everyone. I have several friends whose kids go there and don't feel that way. That's what it is here. That's what it is in England. All over the world. It's why of meritocracy and diversity hiring. The idea that there's no instilled systemic racism in this country.

There's no nepotism. Nepotism doesn't exist in the world, in American culture, business culture. That's why people pay exorbitant amounts of money and donate money to Yale and Harvard and Columbia and Princeton and Stanford and wherever so that their kids who aren't, who are fuckups, who aren't that bright can ensure themselves entree into that world. Well, I think even kids who are, who are, who are bright and who are not fuckups, they still want to, you know, have assurance that their kids, you know, have a path into that world.

So, yeah. But they, yes, but it's more important for kids who are reaching the age of 18 and it's pretty clear, like, oh, this person, this kid is not there. Or they don't know what they want to do. And it's, you know, yeah. You know, I mean, what do you think about? I mean, what do you think about, I don't know, like Bush and Trump and people that paid to get into school weren't particularly curious or bright? What are your thoughts about, and I know this is so...

By the time this comes out, you know, we're, by the time this comes out, everything will have changed again. But what do you think about the poll numbers that came out showing that Trump is now ahead in five key states? I mean, I don't... You're usually horribly correct about these things in my experience and it scares me. I don't put a lot of stock into the... I think they're overly simplistic and they're basically, they're going, what party are you registered with? And what... How do you feel about, you know, this person and would you vote for this person? First of all, to take a poll number now is... A year away from the election. Yeah. I mean, it's like, it's just silly. It's useless. It's a waste of time. And I don't do any of that fretting about, oh my gosh, I mean, it shows that some people are not happy with Biden's performance

and it shows, and I think that's for a number of kind of obvious reasons. Their messaging isn't very good. People are unaware of the- The things that he's done that are- The accomplishments. Yeah, really great. Whether you, you know, you call them accomplishments or not, or whether you... But he did do these things.

And when you go and you tell these people, this is the same way, same issue I had with Bernie Sanders. It's like, and you were a witness to this. When we were in, where were you know, with a couple from Florida, Where were we, you know, member of the lake house? When my sister and sister-in-law had some friends who were Republicans, I said that like I just come, who were, well, let's, they were Republicans, but anyway, anyway, they were a lovely couple, very nice. They're no longer with us. No, they're really nice.

I like them a lot. We all had dinner one night, and this is in Atlanta. It was before the, I guess, what was it? 2000, it was when Trump, it was like Trump. It was when Trump was running, I think the first time. Against Hillary Clinton? Yes, because it was. But my whole thing was about Bernie Sanders.

Anyway, this is boring and we'll cut this out. So we'll get to this part, which is that I told him of the positions without saying it was Bernie Sanders. Cause he was very anti Bernie on it and the sense of like, well, he's a socialist and da da da da da da. And then I told him, well, he's, you know, what do you think of this? And are you for these rights? And or whatever, however, I, you know, what do you think of this? And are you for these rights and whatever? However,

I, you know, I took my time and he was agreed with all of them. I go, well, that's Bernie Sanders platform. And that's the opposite of Donald Trump's platform. And this is before too, in the guy's defense somewhat mitigating, but it was before Trump proved all the things that people were saying about him, but people were like, he's gonna turn this country around and no more, he's gonna drain the swamp and whatever, talking points they got, bumper sticker shit.

But yeah, so I think that's part of the issue with Biden and the Democrats are just, I mean, so frustrating and feckless and just, you know, shackled by the idea of like running numbers and you know, and just they're fucking pussies. And there are so many things that people agree And just they're fucking pussies and and and their work there there are so many things that people agree if you take Biden's name out or Trump's name out or even Republican or Democrat and just say how do you feel about this issue?

How do you feel about this and by far And it's been proven these are this is part of the polling numbers, people will go, oh, I see, that's the Democrats position, or that's the Democrat socialists position, or that's the independent, or the libertarian, or whatever. But, and I think they've done a terrible job at, at touting his accomplishments. And they, they have lost and lost a long time ago the propaganda war, you know, the, the ability to fight back against, you know, the messaging, the messaging, you know, Fox News stuff. The only messaging that is palpable and works for, you know, our side of things right now is, you know, the fact that Roe v. Wade was overturned and the debate over abortion, which-

They're so lucky. They're, I know, which is really sad to say that. So lucky. The only reason they're still in the game. 100%. Is that the youth care about that, people, men and women care about that, everyone cares about that. 70% of America care about it.

70%. And that... Yeah. And we're still not in a place where, people can recognize that that gets overshadowed by everything else. I mean, even just everything that just happened with trying to pick a speaker, I mean, it's so embarrassing just happened with trying to pick a speaker.

I mean, it's so embarrassing and how anyone could look at that and say, those people represent me, that's my party, that's what I believe in, you know, is shocking to me. But I guess... How many, yeah, how many, what is it, 200? And I don't even know what the number of the Republican representatives in the House are, 221, 229. I don't even know what it is, but literally, 229 people hold America hostage. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. And they're loony tunes. Yeah.

You know, not all of them, but a bunch of them are just crazy. Yeah. And, you know, believe in these insane conspiracy theories. And the new speaker of the house is a creationist, literalist. And that's just... Election denier. Oh, that's the least of it. That's the least of it, I know.

If you believe Adam and Eve met a talking snake, and seriously, then you're the speaker of the house, and you are the head Republican, and you believe that Adam and Eve were talking snake, gave them a bad apple, and then they ate the apple, and God was upset after he... I mean... I mean, when you put it that way, it's really scary.

Yeah. Anyway. All right, Amber. I took the year. Are we done here? We're almost done. If you can hold it for five minutes. I'm going to ask you a question as I ask everybody about a question from Marlowe.

Okay. Let me get it over here. I have one picked out especially for you. Okay, thank you. I do that for everybody. Yeah. All right. And look, my whole thing when I asked you, my love, a million, was-

What if I just made you hold my hand through this whole thing I don't like holding it's a real thing David does not like to hold hands I don't I don't like it okay that's enough I gotta get my phone my whole thing was just to make this you know not special or whatever and just treat you like any other guest that I fuck, you know? Thank you. Yeah. All right. Okay, here we go.

From Marlowe. Okay. So, this is a question from... And again, she doesn't do these specifically for people. I'm just picking this out. Yeah, no, for sure. Okay. So this is a question for, and again, she doesn't do these specifically for people. I'm just picking this out. Yeah, no, for sure. Okay. Amber Tamlin, my daughter Marlowe has a question for you. Why do you get tired at night? That does feel like that is specifically for me. Yes, I picked that on a special. Yeah, You get tired at night because you're up all day long working, thinking, dealing with the world and you're like a battery and by the end of the day, I'm like answering this like I would

say it to her, actually. You should. Yes, absolutely. That's how you should do it. You think of how we drive a car and whether that car takes gas or you have to charge that car because it has a battery. At a certain point, the car starts to slow down or it needs to be refueled or it needs to have its battery recharged. And our bodies are just the same way. We need to do that at night. And our brains. And our brains. And when we go into deep sleep, I often like to tell Marlowe too,

mostly to get out of the room when she won't let me leave at bedtime. But I say, where do you wanna meet up in a dream tonight? I'll meet you there, you tell me. And she says, like, we're gonna go fly on a cloud. Oh, great, I'll get my cloud and I'll come meet you. Where are we meeting? And we'll have a whole conversation about where we're meeting in our dreams. But- Oh, that's smart. I like that.

Yeah. And she wants- That's better than what I do, which is tell her that there are zombies under her bed. There's that's there. That's my, another one of your jokes that's one of my favorites is whispering her, whispering to her at night, things to help her go to sleep. Like there is no God. Oh, well, they're not meant to, the joke isn't about helping her sleep, but yeah. Well, whispering to a baby. It was when she was a baby.

Yeah. But, um, but yeah, so I try to, I try to tell her that to make her think, you know, when she's going into her dream, maybe she'll see mommy there. That'd be pretty cool. Then we could go do things you don't get to do in real life. That's great. Yeah. That's great.

All right, Amber Tamblyn. Thank you very much for marrying me. Funny bunny Boo Bear. And so this probably won't come out. We're just doing this to humor you, but it was nice to have you come down to the office. Thank you, it was my pleasure. It's an hour of my life, I won't get back. Actually, you can go on YouTube and get it right back Okay. It was nice to have you come down to the office. Thank you. It was my pleasure.

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