Senses Working Overtime with David Cross - Edy Modica

Episode Date: January 30, 2025

Edy Modica (Jury Duty) joins David to talk about card collecting, messy people, and more. Catch all new episodes every Thursday. Watch video episodes here.Guest: Edy ModicaSubscribe and Rate Senses Working Overtime on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave us a review to read on a future episode!Follow David on Instagram and Twitter.Follow the show:Instagram: @sensesworkingovertimepodTikTok: @swopodEditor: Kati SkeltonEngineer: Chris OsbornExecutive Producer: Emma FoleyAdvertise on Senses Working Overtime via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. Thanks for having me. Oh, thanks for coming. I didn't realize until just a little bit ago that you were in Jury Duty, which I loved. Yay! Or, I shouldn't say realized, I put the two together. Like, who the fuck is this? Yes, exactly. I, uh, well, um, we've gotten to the point, um, in the history of this podcast show thing.

No, it's just a podcast. You don't have to add another word. That running out of my New York friends and contacts. So now I'm into, they go, hey, we think, you know, Edie would be great. And I'm like, sure. And I don't know, okay, great. And then come on down and then, you know,

scrambled to do a little bit of research. But I like to be as unresearched as possible just cause I wanna have a conversation as if we were at a- Totally. I listened to some clips on my way and then I was kind of like, I'm gonna stop actually. Yeah, yeah, good.

And just be raw. Well, that's what I do, yeah. That's what I, I mean, I wear a condom, but you know, I don't during the show, but... Soft. Yeah. Okay, cool, but I love Jury Duty. I loved it. I thought it was great. I really enjoyed it.

It was awesome. Yeah. The experience must have been... It was cool. Was it thrilling at times, I imagine? The whole time. It was like activating. I was electrified. I feel like I may never feel that way again. It's a very unique thing to do. you know you have to commit to this character, it's not scripted, you have to be aware of not giving anything away accidentally, even like

Freudian slips or you know something that you got to watch out for, you got to be, you know, aware of the the Mark or the do... I don't know what you call him, the real person. The hero. He was great by the way. What a perfect choice. I know it's crazy that it worked out like that. If you haven't seen it, go check out Jury Duty. It's... what it on freebie on Amazon on Amazon freebie freebie freebie Yes, oh, you've never heard of it. Nope. Oh I'm making a joke. Oh, I don't think anyone has heard of it, but that is what it's called freebie freebie Yeah, no, I've been like it's like the vision is free like television, but it's free V free TV

And there's ads, you know, so that's why it's free, right? So But and you're and you're required to buy something one of the products from the ads or use one of the products I think that's their goal. That would be their dream, but that's Yours because they shut it off if you don't buy you know whatever it is or use Charles Schwab for your okay yeah it was it was a really enjoyable show I'm happy to hear that it didn't feel like we knew what we were it was gonna feel like we knew what it was gonna be. Yeah.

It was, what was it, eight episodes? Yeah. Yeah. Really great. And the length, and just, and everybody committing, the security guard who's- She was amazing. There the whole time, I imagine, just has to sit and be in character. Yes, and and then with something

You know on Unforeseen happens everybody has to remain a character. Yeah, it was great and James Marston has a dick version Great. That was really funny. What what if how long did that? Shoot for like a month a month. Yeah That was really funny. How long did that shoot for? Like a month. A month, yeah. Were you able to enjoy your downtime? Or did you have to remain in character in case?

I lived in the hotel with Ronald, the hero. So, like, I was playing Mario Kart with him in character, and there's no cameras Wow there Wow Or like we would get lunch on the weekends and we're all in character guys were sequestered I forgot about that four of us lived with him in my hotel Like there was some story that like our hotel or their hotel was booked So we write to another one and where was it shot? In LA. Yeah, right.

Man, that is a real commitment. I know. It was cool, though. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a weird camp. Yes. Like a Nazi experiment camp.

Yes. No, no, Soviet. I'm going to say Soviet kind of psychological era camp. Yeah, it felt- But you got paid for it. Yeah. Not a lot. The money's gone. Not a lot.

It's gone. I'm working, or I just left, but I was working at this like assisted living facility recently and it was insane. Old people. Yeah, yeah. My mom's old. Yeah. My in-laws are old. Where are they?

My mom's in Atlanta and my in-laws are in Santa Monica, LA. Crazy. But are they, do they have partners? My mom doesn't. But yeah,, both of my in-laws, mother-in-law and father-in-law are together. Yeah. Yeah. And they're great. And we were just out there for my father-in-law's 90th birthday. Wow.

So, and my mom is gonna be, it just turned 87. Holy shit. Is she good in her head? Yes. She is, I mean, her body is degrading, but her brain is still sharp, pretty sharp. I mean, her memory isn't that great, but there's no dementia or anything like that or anything concerning in that. And same with my mother-in-law and father-in-law. Yeah. My parents are both single and I'm an only child and it's like the bane of my existence.

What do you mean? Like, they live in New York or like close by and I feel like I can't leave here. Right. And are they close or are they dynamical? They're close. Okay. But why did they split up? Why? Yeah.

My dad cheated on my mom. But this was years ago. Like I was like one when they got together, so I never really saw them together. And that comes up. There's still resentment there. Yeah. For sure. But he's been really good to her Well, yeah, he better be he's the one who cheated. I know I hope it was worth it Maybe it was maybe it was I think things are the way they were meant to be right. It was probably worth it probably yeah, and Did either of them?

Get you get with anyone else. Yeah, my mom was remarried. Yeah, but then either of them get with anyone else? Yeah, my mom was remarried. Yeah. But then they got divorced too. Oh, so maybe she's the issue. Sounds like she's the common factor here. She's working on herself. Well, I don't know.

Running out of time, TikTok, okay? There's not a lot of time left. Edie's mom. Is she hot? She is. Yeah. Yeah. Does she flaunt it like that kind of?

She dresses youthful. Right. She'll wear like leather pants. And she's very like, she's hot. Yeah. And what's your ethnicity? Italian and Jewish. Right.

I mean, they're as close as two cultures can be. And Italian and Greece, Greek I think are similar. But Greek and Jew, not so similar. Yes. But Italian and Jewish, very similar. And I haven't witnessed this, but I've heard of Italian people getting upset when they're mistaken for being Jewish. Really? Yeah, not the other way around. Not the other way around, for sure. I definitely lead with Italian. That makes me feel sexy. And your parents are both in the city or New York state?

My dad lives in the city and my mom lives in Nyack, New York. Okay. That's north, right? Yes. Well, everything's north, I suppose, but that's like upper upstate, right? It's like an hour out of the city. I don't have like directions are not something

that are in my brain. I don't know how to like- Oh, well then going back to when you first came in and you said you should have used your brain, you shouldn't have used your brain. I had to use the phone. You had to use the phone. I don't have like, when I'm walking down the street, I'm like, oh, that's like a pretty

building. Like I have no awareness of where I'm at. That's terrible. So it's actually I live in bliss. You're well, ignorance is bliss, I guess. There we go. That's what you mean. All right. So. So you don't, you is bliss, I guess. There we go. That's what you mean. All right, so,

so you don't, you're not very observant. I am in my own way, I would say. Describe what your own way is. I'm noticing things on the street. Like I'm like, oh, there's hats for sale. Like I'll come back for those, but I'm not like a map. There's no map in my head. Well, how are you gonna come back

if you don't know where you are? Because I know where Joe's coffee is. So I, like I use clues rather than, I mean, New York City, this area's fine. You know, I'm not completely incompetent. Is that why? Because it's on the grid. Yeah. Yes.

So when you go to Boston, say, you're just hopelessly lost. Yeah. Yes. So when you go to Boston, say, you're just hopelessly lost. Yeah. Like, I don't even know which way Boston is. From New York? From New York. Well, that's now you're getting in a stupid territory. That that's OK. That's pretty stupid. You don't know. Where if I if I had to think about it, how can you not know where Boston is from the city. Like would you? I mean, okay, if New York is here, it's over here.

Yeah, no, wait, you're doing down. Oh my god, I don't have geography in my brain. And I'm, I don't have geography in my brain and I'm good at other things. I've accepted that it's okay. Well, I'm glad you made peace with your ignorance. That's good. So, no, Boston is northeast from here. It's in New England and New England is above. I know that. It's up.

I was going up. You said if New York was here, that was your right hand. Yeah, but you're going the wrong way. You're going- It's this way? No, now you're going to Toronto. I'm far up. I'm just saying that's the general direction.

Well, up, yeah, north, but- All right, it's not bad. Yeah, but if it was like a Jeopardy question, you would still go, well, you got the north right, but you got the- That's not bad. Yeah, but if it was like a Jeopardy question, you would still go, well, you got the North right, but you got the other direction wrong. It's okay with me that I'm good at other things. You liked me in the show, right? Yeah. Well, I don't dislike you because you don't know where Boston is. But, so, Columbus, Ohio, how do you get there from here?

If I'm looking at New York left. Yep, west, yeah, a little south, southwest. Yep, okay, well, not so bad. Pretty good. Yeah, I'm surprised that you figured out Columbus Columbus easier than I went to Ohio. Okay, how do you know but you didn't walk you? How'd you get there? I flew. Yeah, all right So you haven't been to Boston no, I have So then Ohio more recently.

Okay. Did they have hats for sale in Boston? No, I guess that's why. That's why you didn't. It's lost on me. It's, yeah. All right, well, we've learned something. Also I want to let you plug whatever you want to, if you got anything coming up. I'm going on a tour

Tell them I'm driving across America. Okay. Um, I'm going to Philadelphia Richmond Pittsburgh Baltimore st. Louis Detroit Reno and Salt Lake City. Those are the ones the tickets are low Reno and Salt Lake City, those are the ones, the tickets are low. Salt Lake City, I've had some of my favorite shows. Really? Yeah, I love Salt Lake City. I'm excited.

I like it as a place to visit too. And yeah, good, I've had really good luck with the shows. I mean, not great numbers, but the people come out are really good. That's what I'm most excited about, like talking to people after. I love meeting people. Do you? Oh, that's good. Yeah, I've had to learn that kind of skill.

I used to be terrible at it. Really? Yeah, really not comfortable. And yeah, it wasn't something I, I didn't have, you know, really a lot of bad exchanges. It wasn't that, it was just my, I used to also not be able to take a compliment and you know, that was that kind of person.

And you know, long ago after we, I was ago after we were doing a Mr. Show tour and I would just kind of run to the bus and get on the bus. And I just- Did you feel good about, were you like, damn, that was great. Oh yeah, no, the show, yeah, that was fun. The show was fun, but I just,

maybe it was the small talk aspect of it. And I don't know, I just wasn't, it was, as I said, something I had to learn to be and now I'm fine. I mean, and I and I've done things I did meet and greets in the last tour, I do this thing where I I have one specific merch item for sale and there's a number on the back of it. And if I pick your number out of the ball sack, then you get to come backstage and I'll personalize the thing and all that stuff.

So clearly I'm comfortable with it now. But yeah, for a long time it wasn't. But that's good. That's good that you like to... Yeah, I don't like, or I try to get real as soon as possible, you know, and not have small talk happen. I mean, it's tough to avoid it. It's true. And it's not small talk for them. But for you, it's like the same questions over and over. Yes. Same kind of thing over and over. Yes.

Same kind of thing. Thank you. Yes. Yeah, but I mean people are for the most part cool. Anyway, Salt Lake City is- And Reno, Nevada, that one's bad. I've never been there. I've never been to Reno.

But I've been to all the other places you mentioned, and they're pretty good. What are you doing in Baltimore? I can't remember the venue. Is it the Autobar by any chance? No. No? Okay. Autobar is great. I wish I could remember where it is.

Well, maybe there'll be hats for sale. Yeah, and then I can. That way you can remember where it is. Hey, folks, if you're listening to this in any of those cities and you don't want Edie to get lost, just go sell some hats by the venue. And they have to be cute. They have to be cute. That's subjective, so do your best to think of what Edie might find cute.

Now here's a question everybody has. What kind of hat do you think is cute? Like a fluffy hat. You see those hats they're selling like... Like demaracua kind of thing? No, like... Well, that's pretty... Like fur.

Oh, like a... Like a puffy fur. Like a Russian hat. Oh, Like a Russian. Yes. Got it. Yeah, I'm into that So that's a cute hat. That's cute. Okay, I wouldn't have thought of that Okay, well teach his own teach His own is there a name for your tour? The is anything happening tour Is Anything Happening tour. The Is Anything Happening tour.

Yes. All right. So go check out Edie. Are you funny? Are you... I think I'm pretty funny. Yeah. All right.

Well, then yeah. Go check. Ticket prices are decent? Reasonable. Okay. So go check it out. Do you curse at all? Yes. Oh, so don't go see the show.

There's no place for that. There are too many Fs and Ss and Cs. D. D. So maybe, you know, do you talk about your own personal issues and things? A little yes. Okay, don't go. I wouldn't go. It's more stories.

Okay, go. Well, then go. Yes. Yeah. All right, check it out. I speak with F though. That's something my aunt says. You speak with F?

It's like he spoke with F. He spoke with F. That sounds like something first generation, or off the boat, let's say. Yeah. Are you first generation? No. No. And where's your aunt from?

My parents both grew up in Brooklyn, so they're from there, from Flatbush. Okay. And my dad's from Bay Ridge. All right. They're fun. And where do you live? I live in Ridgewood, Queens.

Okay, right near Brooklyn. Yep. One foot away. Yes. I remember I was doing a Sultan Room, and I rode my bike, and I'm terrible with directions as well. Okay, I'm happy to hear that. I mean geography I've got down, but just in a general sense.

Okay. Like I know how to get to Florida from here. Down. Down, yeah, at this point. This was a couple years ago. And I just got lost and it was getting really late so that I knew I was going to, the further loss I got is like, I don't want a 40-minute bike ride back home. It's midnight and I'm tired. I locked my bike up and I just took a photo of the street corner signs.

Then I realized when I looked on the map like oh shit I I rode my bike to Ridgewood completely the wrong direction Rode my bike to Queens and then thought Holy shit, that's way out of the way and then I when I went to go get the bike. I was like, oh this is Literally down the street from yeah, it's Brooklyn, but it feels good to say Queens. It does. It does. It's exotic. Yes. Like Queens.

Yeah. What am I doing in Queens? And it's right next to Bushwick. I don't want to be there, but Ridgewood. It's gorgeous. Why don't you want to be in Bushwick? It's nasty. Well, right. I guess you could walk to Bushwick from where you are. Yes. And yeah, you're not right in the shit. Yeah.

I lived in a house in Bushwick that after I moved out it was condemned because of rats. But do you think you had anything to do with it? You know, I didn't think about it like that. Yeah. Because the rats were only there when I was there. Right, and then you left and they, and they condemned the building.

Yeah. And you, they, do you think they said it was rats to make you feel better? Maybe. Because it was really you? Wow. Well, how do you, how do you leave?

How do you leave? How do you live? Are you messy? Are you dirty? No, I'm mid. Yeah. More like there's clothes everywhere, but not really that dirty.

Right, I got you. Messy. Messy. Messy, but not dirty. Are you messy? No. You're messy? No. You're neat? I am, I'm not like OCD neat, but I clean up after myself.

Yeah. That's what I was taught to do. And so I, if nothing else, I'll rinse the dish just so it's easier to clean up if I'm in a hurry. But if I'm not, if I don't have to be somewhere, I, yeah, take the 60 seconds to wash my goddamn plate. Why not? I live in a house. Come on, guys.

When I do do that. Guys, it, I don't know what, what are you doing that you don't have time to wash your fucking plate and put it in the dish rack? It's 40 seconds. Come on. But like if you see my desk, it's got just piles of paper everywhere.

And then I'm like, don't clean, don't touch that, don't clean it up. I know where everything is, even though it's very messy. But, you know, my bedroom isn't messy, unless I take the clothes that my wife has just dropped all over the place and I put them on the bed. And then I have, you know, like, and I'll clean up after my daughter, because she's seven.

I mean, I tell her, pick up the coat and do that, but I'll give her some slack. But yeah, I have this thing where it's like, if you're going to leave all these like pile of shoes by the banister, I'm going to them, and you don't get upset with me if you don't like where I move them to. Either you move them or I'll move them. You put them away or I'll put it away, but don't be upset when I put them away in your underwear drawer.

Yeah. Or you put them away, and then you can put them wherever you want. That's not all over the floor by the banister. So there, that gives you a little insight into my home situation. Holy shit. I knew, I knew, I knew I was, when my wife and I first

started dating, I knew I was, there were two things, two memories I have. One was I took her to Veselka. Love it. I used to live in the East Village and Veselka was one of the go-to places for late night. And we both, you know, I was like, oh, you gotta have the hot borscht, you gotta have the, you know, whatever. And we had our food,

and then they came to take away the plates. And all around her plate was, drew like crumbs and cracker things, like just a pile of stuff, like an art piece where you like put tape down and then you paint on it and you pull the tape out and then you have these things of paint. And it was like that, but a circle,

like a sort of circle of food. And I remember just noting that, oh, geez. Did you think it was cute? No, I didn't. I didn't. Just like, Jesus Christ. I mean, I wasn't that put off by it, but it was noticeable.

Yeah. And then the other thing was, when I, the first time I stayed at her place in Venice, when I, the first time I stayed at her place in Venice, and she had like a split level house near the beach, and I went in her, she had gone to work or something, and I got up and I went to the bathroom, and on the bathroom Sink, you know by the by the sink was an old

cup of coffee where the milk had skimmed over and And it's got a skin a skin. Yeah, it's got to be couple days. It's not that it wasn't from that morning and I don't think it was from the day before. So I think it had been there, like where you brush your teeth and a toilet bowl. Had it been two days. That sounds like my house.

Yeah, I don't, that's, I don't like that. Sometimes I'll put that coffee back in a pot and heat it up and drink it. I don't that's that's I don't like that. I'll put that coffee back in a pot and heat it up and drink it. I don't think that's so bad. It's just. You shouldn't. I don't know. I usually have a cup of coffee.

By the toilet too close to the part of your can get in that well, it's off and it's just. You have to brush your teeth, right? So you've seen the coffee cup. I'm gonna say at least four times at this point. And what you would do, what I would do is I'd use my, I'm right-handed, so my index finger and my pointer finger to put around the mug handle,

and then my thumb on top of the mug handle and then I would walk, use my feet to walk it upstairs and then I put it in the sink. And wash it for 40 seconds of your goddamn life. Not even 40 seconds. I mean, well, now that there's skim off of stuff on it, maybe now it's going to be 40 seconds. Before it would probably be 11 seconds.. I just have to spend another 29 seconds But that's what I yeah, that's that's how I would approach yeah that have you ever watched hoarders? Oh god

Yeah, oh man. I'm really in a phase with that show. It's it's so depressing I know but it gives me like it fills me up. Well, I think that's a apt metaphor. It I it's it's really depressing on a level that like if you watch what's the show about addiction? My Strange Addiction? No, no, oh gosh, Intervention. Oh yes. So that is depressing, but there's like hope

for the people and you know, sometimes they backslide and it's a bummer, but you know, there's a light at the end of the tunnel should they choose that. But with hoarders, you don't really see that. It's just... Well, at the end, usually they get most of the stuff out, but they're probably gonna... Yeah, they haven't worked on the psychological issues. I'm obsessed with that psychological problem. Oh, man.

Or the fact that they can't see it. Yeah, that's the thing when it's- It's intriguing to watch them. It's, oh man, it's so depressing to me. Yeah, and then when you find out, there's always the point in the episode where they're like, and this is why, like they were severely abused

and that's why this is happening and that's dark. I remember I was shooting a movie in upstate and we had to do locations and find a house like in this kind of rural area. And the location manager was like, okay, you know, we had a list of places to go check out. And we went to this house and you could tell as you were kind of walking up. And these are mostly like kind of lower middle class, you know. But this very nice middle aged bubbly woman had opened the door. And I remember the car, the car was filled with stuff as we were walking in, there's stuff on the lawn. And she's filled, she's,

keep in mind, she has volunteered, she's reached out to a website or whatever and volunteered her house for a location for film and TV and commercials and stuff. And you have to be proactive to do that. And she's got the door open, hi, really nice, show us around. And we're all like, side eyeing. What the fuck? And it is like side-eyeing, like what the fuck? And it is stacks up to the fucking ceiling of papers and boxes and like, I mean that is a, that's cognitive dissonance that is, I mean.

Yeah, like maybe someone would wanna come in here. I mean you couldn't and you know, it's like, well, how do you think we're gonna film here? Yeah. At all. It'd be good for something. I mean, yeah, maybe she filled out on the hoarder and if you're looking for that kind of house. And you know, we were, you know, we didn't leave immediately. We gave her a couple minutes of like, you know, we were, you know, we didn't leave immediately. We gave her a couple minutes

of like, you know, okay, this is interesting. And then we went, you know, but I mean, what? So, yeah, the separation, like I was baffling. Yes. It really makes me think of us as like animals, like stowing things away for comfort. I mean, I have, it's, I've been collecting baseball cards and I'm not a completist. I'm not, there's a couple of different kinds of collectors and, and I'm not the guy who's like, you know, I want to get every card in parallel and refractor and, you know, short print of every card in this set. I'm not that guy.

But I do like getting packs of cards and opening them up and I have since I was a kid. And I started collecting like in the 90s, no earlier than that, about 90. Anyway, it doesn't matter. But I will almost simultaneously, like look, I've got a couple of shelves with some really cool cards on them and boxes, boxes and boxes. I'll simultaneously go, this is cool.

These are some cool cards. I like these cards. Then also go, what the fuck am I doing? What is this? Why? I doubt, highly doubt I have acquired enough valuable cards to offset how much money I've ever paid over decades and decades.

I mean, maybe, I've got some valuable cards for sure. But also the effort to even sell those. I just, I'm like, who can't, why? But then I also, maybe it's the kid in me who's like, this cool, I have a Corbin Carroll refractor, autographed rookie card. That you can look at. I can look at it, I can feel.

But then I'll also go, so what? So I have this weird relationship with my baseball cards. But my daughter, in a complete surprise, out of the blue, decided she wanted to collect baseball cards. And for her, it's not about any players on a team yet, but it's like the shiny refractor card, really cool. And so I just, you know, I get her the, you know, the cheapest ones and, you know, it's just like this top series one, whatever. And she loves opening the cards.

She loves having them. She has a box for them. She likes the getting the special cards. Are you totally obsessed with her? I mean, in the sense that she's my daughter. Yeah. I don't know about obsessed, but she's certainly the main focus of my life. Yeah, she's, it's weird because she has, in her school, and she goes to a great school,

she has won the Good Citizenship Award. She did in, twice in first grade, and then in second grade. And they have the thing, and this is, twice in first grade and then in second grade. She, and they have the thing, and this is, they only give four of those out to the class. And, you know, they have this little award ceremony and there's, you know, most improved and good citizenship. And, you know, all the qualities, we get report cards. She's great in class and she works well with others

and da da da da da. and she's, you know, pays attention and she's mindful and you know, all these things. I'm like, where the fuck is that kid? I've never met that kid ever. I don't know, do I have to like get an invisibility cloak and go into class to watch? I mean, I don't know who that kid is.

I don't know. I get, you know, am I just the most sad? She wouldn't, all right. That's all right. I'm like, not here to talk shit. Yeah. Well, she's great. She's really funny.

She's very, she's in that- You're a good citizen. Yeah, I don't, yeah. I have not met that kid. Not my kid. But she's, we're just getting all the attitude and sass now and you know, why do I have to say thank you? Why?

Yeah. You know, and- I kinda wanna ask that. But yeah, she's a handful, that's for sure. But she's in the, and kind of all her classmates and her friends are in this stage of the really creative lying about making stuff up, going. And all the kids do it.

And it's really fun to listen to. And like, because every 300 years, the moon is really close to earth. And it would be like, you could fill up the, it would fill up the sky and, oh, every 300, I guess I'll miss it then. Well, no, when I was two, it was like that. I remember seeing it.

Oh, you remember seeing it? Like just making shit up. Nonsense. My ex-boyfriend worked at this like children's museum and he worked with her like Brooklyn Children's Museum. I fucking love that place. It's so cool. And he would make songs with them and we would listen.

I took Marlo there every weekend. Yeah. I mean, when she was younger. Oh, I love that place. It's so cool. And he would make songs with them and we would listen. I took Marlo there every weekend, I mean, when she was younger. Oh, I love it. There was this one song that was like, he played for me and the kid was like, you don't know what one plus one is. You don't know, I don't know. It's so like awesome, confident.

You don't know, I don't know. Who cares? That's so cool. That's one of the things that's frustrating is if she doesn't know the answer to or understand the question for homework, then in her world, I can't possibly understand it. If she doesn't understand it, and then I say, well, it's this and no, no, dad, I don't. Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Yeah.

I remember fighting with my mom because I thought the word pattern was pronounced pattern. And she was like, it's pattern. And I was like, it's pattern. Stop. And this was last year. Yes.

Wow. That's, so I'm curious, when did that happen? I'm curious about memory. And when you, for a kid, when you start, when you start remembering things, going as back as you can, and then when you start losing those memories. Well, that's something that like my parents have,

like my mom will tell that story. Oh, yeah, yeah, sure, sure. But I do vaguely remember fighting with her when I was like five about it. Yeah. But I'm like, is that just because we've talked about it? Yeah, maybe, yeah. Yeah.

You've instilled, she's instilled memories in you. Oh, what if they're false memories? I know. What if it's a CIA thing? Do you think you're in a sleeper cell? Yes. You could be. I really do.

I don't think I'm real. Well, you'd be real. You just, the life you know. It'd be like Severance. It isn't. You're inny and you're outty. Yes. Do you watch Severance? I do. I watched the first season. Oh, it's okay. It was good. The numbers are scary Oh, it's so good and way do you get to season two is I'm excited. Did you see they're like promo in Grand Central?

I did like a little I thought that was cool. Yeah, I was like that's yeah get beer amongst the people Just wait. What do you see the opening shot of the first episode of season 2? I can't wait. It's so good. I can't wait. It's really, I love that show. I love it. Me too.

I love Adam Scott. Everyone's great. The sister is great. I mean, everyone's great. But also, the direction, it's just perfectly directed and it's tonally, it's economic, it's reserved, it's not. It's a good antidote to a lot of the other kind of, I don't want to say spoon fed, but they cram too much shit in their too much story. Mm-hmm.

And this just is really the pacing is great and the acting is great. I just yeah, I thought those guys did an amazing job. We got to get you on that show. No, no. Not about that. They already had Bob Balaban, who's kind of an older version of me. I do love him. I wanted to say to you, I met you years ago.

I was an intern on the Heart She Holler on Adult Swim and I walked your dog. Okay, yeah. Oh, that's great. That was awesome. Oh my gosh, in that weird studio that was like- Yes, in Brooklyn. Yeah, but in the middle of, it was a nut roast room.

Yes. And it was like getting there, it was like, where the fuck am I? It's industrial and dirty, and there was like one bus that went there. Yeah. Yeah, oh, that was a fun show to do. It was so cool to be there.

I was like damn, they're really doing whatever they want. Yeah, oh man it was crazy. Inspiring. Those guys, the PFFR guys come up with some stuff. They're wild. Do you, have you seen their other stuff? Yeah, I was obsessed with Wonder Shows in. Oh, genius.

Growing up and then like, I actually brought, I don't know if you've Oh genius growing up and then like I actually brought I don't know if you've seen the DVD of like the first season I've got it you have it so you know you open like the first part Yeah hair from the girl is the pubic hair Yeah, I like brought that into middle school and the teacher took it away and I like gotten a middle school Yes, that's that's how old I was. Wait, how old are you now? 32.

Wow, my concept of time and age has been warped as I get older, but wow, you had wonder shows in a middle school. Yes, which was an amazing time to have it. Yeah. Or I was like, oh my God. Well, it says right on there, adults only, not meant for children, not suitable for children

or whatever. Oh man, it's all great, but the Patience episode is one of the best things I've ever seen on TV. Ever. It's so good. The guy who ages. Yeah. And they have like this stare down and you tell,

like it's just a brilliant episode. It's so good. Yeah, and I liked Xavier Renegade Angel. Oh, loved it, yeah. Yeah, they're crazy. Yeah, and Heart She Holler was pretty cool. Also amazing. They also were so nice, like they included,

I have a can from, it's like dinner for two in a can. And they couldn't use the image, so they Photoshopped my face on the woman, and then they let me keep it. Like they were so nice to the interns who were, all of the interns were like, we love Wondershows, and like just obsessed with them. we love Wonder Shows and like just obsessed with them.

I still have my Confederate flag sweater that was way too big for me that they made that my character had to wear. Also the extras on that show were some of the bunkest humans on the planet. It was, yeah. They, there's like a Tim and Eric vibe to their yes Yeah, crazy looking people and sometimes my job was to just like hang out with them. I was like god damn So you walked Ollie my dog. Oh, wow. Very cool. I was like, thank you

Why your wife is on it too? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah and My ex-girlfriend did makeup. Holy shit. Yeah, and then a ton of mutual friends. Patton was on there and Heather Lawless. Yeah, that show was incredible. And Amy Sedaris. Yeah. Oh man, it was killer.

Yeah, there was one time where they They hadn't recorded the voiceover yet. So they were like, oh Edie Can you just like read it and I was like this is my moment Like I'm gonna be amazing and then they're gonna be like, you know what we had a higher And that didn't happen It was right in front of us the entire time. I really was like okay this is it. Well you oh did you record it in any way? No. All right. No. But I did a burp on command and they liked it. I was like all right great. That lasted me a few years. And they did, they did, what was their, oh, they had Teenage Euthanasia and then some

shorts that Vernon Chapman, who was part of that, did. Oh my God, he did this thing where he sent scripts to there's like these porn Oh, yeah, no, no, no. I've that called Shit yes, I have a copy of that. I have it on my old computer. Yeah, it's um, I Can't remember what it's called. I don't remember what it's called, but it's So they they made called? I don't remember what it's called, but it's so they they made. So yeah, it was like people that would make cheapy porn, right? Based on your script ideas. And so they wrote

a script about the apocalypse. There's something with meat, they have raw meat or like an eggs. It's crazy with porn actors. You know, not fucking or anything, but. Flesh? Is that in the title? Yes, it is, yeah. Yes, something flesh, that's right. That was amazing. I think it's hard to get, I don't know if you,

where you can see it. I had like a friend, my friend had it on a flash drive and gave it to me. It's, yeah, I've got that DVD, but it's, I'll look up the name, but, oh, it's just crazy. Yeah, they're cool. It's like a short, you know, it's not long.

And just, it's kind of a, a dream of mine to like stage like the tempest with just porn actors. You know, you know, you got to keep all your clothes on guys, but let's really commit to this. And it's such a good idea. Yeah, it's awesome. Sob sob.

Flesh and flesh and flesh. It's crazy how porn actors are so bad. They're bad when, especially when they're like trying to be dramatic is just the best, you know? And I love that they have these, and you'll see billboards in LA too for for like the first you know porn with a million dollar budget and it takes its shot on location and you know

whatever like Turks and Caicos and Tunisia and it's a pirate extravaganza, whatever it is. And like really advertise it with billboards. Yeah, like on the Sunset Boulevard, remember seeing there was a pirate movie that was like, you know, what is something like the most expensive porn,

you know, or X-Ray, I don't know how they describe it, but and then all these, you know, or X-ray, I don't know how they describe it, but, and then all these, you know, the stars on there, and, you know, in full on pirate outfits. And so they have, you know, they have a whole story, like anybody gives a fuck about, oh, what's gonna happen to the woman he kidnapped? I hope she gets out okay. Yeah. It's just really, then they're- Oh, she's gonna happen to the woman he kidnapped? I hope she gets out okay. Yeah.

And just read that and then there's- Oh, she likes it. The whole thing about like, you know, when two characters have to get mad at each other and there's this emotional thing like, oh boy. No one, guys, I don't know, maybe it's for you to motivate you as a Yeah, I mean, just to have a longer bar for someone to click through to find different

things, I guess. Yeah, I guess. It's It was a full length movie. Oh, they make whole. Yeah, they make whole full, you know, and a half, hour, whatever. Yeah. You know, they'll do like zombie shit and, you know, futuristic stuff and like whatever kind of movie there is in the genre, they'll do that.

And you know, not all of them, some are just, you know, most porn is just, you know, like just little scenes or whatever. Is it? Yeah, I think so. I'm just kidding. I mean, I'll check my browser history, but yeah, but there are definitely a number of like, you know, mysteries and a detective. And like, what are you guys doing?

There was this 70s porn that I really liked, even just as an art piece, it's called Sensational Janine. And she has sex. Of all the adjectives. Sensational, she really is. But she, it starts where she watches her mom Like has sex. Of all the adjectives. Sensational. Yeah. She really is. But she, like, it starts where she watches her mom and stepdad having sex and she, like, realizes what sex is and she's with her cousin.

Then she and her cousin have sex. Then she has sex with her stepdad. Like she's- Ooh. I don't like this. And then she goes to church to talk to the priest about it and they have sex. Wait, this is 70s? Yes. Oh boy, that's pretty advanced for 70s culture.

And it's beautiful because it's old, like, it's beautiful. Oh, it's shot on film. Yes, it's grainy. Yeah, pre-digital. Well, that's a, but you know what? That's a hopeful story. It is. It's a beautiful piece. Yeah. Sensational Janine.

Yes. That's all I got on that. I'm sorry. Trying to think of other porn related. I brought us to the end, I'm sorry. Well, you brought it up with the, what is the flesh of flesh of yeah movie that yes The PFF our guys did

They were also really nice there was another intern who had a tattoo of their like first logo and he Didn't have any other like skills in the film industry But they were like do you know how to use After Effects? And he lied and said yes. And now he works for SNL doing that. Really? They just like gave him an opportunity. Wow. I love them. That's great. They're really good people.

I just thought that was cool. Really decent down earth and very creative and their stuff is very unique. And Wonder Shows is just probably one of the most subversive TV shows ever and just brilliant. And then, you know, they did a whole episode. So at the end of Wonder Shows, and there's like a thing about horse apples,

right? Horse apples, right? It's like a five minute segment. And then they did a whole episode, one off of just horse apples, which was hee haw. It was hee haw through their vision. Just racist, dumb, inbred, southern white trash as we have come to know her. Yeah, Horse Apples, if you can find that on the internet, check that one out. I'll look for that. That's, but you remember they did like a little segment? Yes. Yeah.

And so they did a whole episode, show on its own. I don't know where it Yes. Yeah. And so they did a whole episode show on its own. I don't know where it is. Yeah. I like the idea that they just make shit even if it doesn't have a home. I know. That's the coolest way to do it. You find it. We made it. Now it's up to you to Yeah. Yeah, all their stuff. And I'm so, like, for me, when I was in middle school, that's when I had Monty Python and SNL and what else? That was about it for comedy. But you had wonder shows. Wonder shows in South Park. That didn't, I don't wanna say warp your brain,

but did it, it introduced certainly some very adult, sophisticated comedy ideas. I mean, I think when I was growing up, like TV was so, like reality TV was starting. So like, I was watching the real world Las Vegas in middle school and it was like hypersexual, like they're drinking crazy. Like I was exposed to so much.

Did you ever see the show drawn together on Comedy Central? No, but it's the animated show, right? Yeah. Yes. Like, that show was so, they're shitting in cantaloupes, like two of the girl characters are making out, like there was so much. That was accessible, you just turn on the TV, yeah. And my parents, I had a TV in my room. Oh, that's a bad idea.

And my mom would be like, don't watch the real world. I was like, okay. Yeah, my kid's not getting it. I'm gonna go in my room and do that. Kid is not getting a TV in my room. Oh, that's a bad idea. And my mom would be like, don't watch the real world. I was like, okay. Yeah, my kid's not getting it. I'm gonna go in my room and do that. Kid is not getting a TV in her room. Yeah. No way. So, but I wanna go back to the, so you're how old when you see Wonder Shows? I guess 12.

Did you get, looking back on that, did you get all the jokes? Most of them, some? Probably not, but I knew it was like bad, like they were being bad. And like, you know, there's one where they're like, slaves built the Parthenon. Like, I felt like maybe I didn't understand

why that was funny, but I was like, they're saying like bad things. Right. Or the, there was stuff with kids in it, they're saying like bad things. Right. Or the, there was stuff with kids in it. The beat kids. Yeah, beat kids. The kids on the street. Those, and also those kids. They were amazing.

Holy shit. They were little geniuses. Yeah. The kid who goes to the racetrack as the kid reporter and he's just giving these guys, so how big of a loser are you? Or just giving these people shit. We're on Wall Street. Oh God, it was great. So I don't think I understood the context of the world.

But you knew, you got the sense like, oh, this is naughty. And I was like, I think this is what cool is being like this. And like puppets who are raunchy, like it set me on a path, for sure. That's great. Well, you'll have to, oh, I'm sure you did tell them that when you were at Heart-Chee-Haller. That's great.

I did, but I was a little nervous and they were busy. Yeah, but I mean, how long were you there for? I guess a few months. I would go like two or three times a week, but I was interning, so I wasn't getting paid. I was like a PA. Yeah, without getting paid. Yes, without getting paid.

God, that's tough. It's crazy. But then I got other PA jobs from that. Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, it's. And it was cool to be on the other side, even though it was hard on the Heart She Holler because I was like, I want to be on something like this so badly. Like, it's perfect.

And being so close, but being like a scrub was like. Yeah, but as you said, it's like, it's got, that's a valuable thing. Definitely, it was inspiring. And cool, yeah. And so how did you get the role in Jury Duty? I auditioned for it, and I really just, the audition was just a paragraph,

like it was just like, you're a juror who doesn't want to be on the jury. And I feel like- It just makes shit up about, yeah. And I love doing that. And I feel like I wasn't, you never get parts from auditioning or like I wasn't getting any parts. So I was like, I'm just going to do whatever I want for this.

And it was so cool that that worked. Or when they, when I, it worked, I was like, they must be cool. Yeah. Because I really did my thing. And did you have friendships with anybody else? Are you still friends? All of them.

Yeah. It was really like a beautiful thing. I feel like because a lot of the actors, like this was our first big thing, like everyone was so grateful, like so happy to be there. That's good. That's important. Yeah. It felt like it was very theater kid vibes. Yeah.

Like massaging, you know what I mean? Like, I love you after like two hours. Yeah. Well, the thing that a lot of people don't A thing that a lot of people don't understand or appreciate is the intensity of when you're on a set, especially on location. And I mean, you do, I mean, I'm still friends with, excuse me, I'm still friends with people on movies I shot and shows long, long time ago, because it's really intense. It's a shared experience. Yeah.

There's not a lot of, and I always prefer, you know, working on something where it's not, you shoot your scene, then you go back to your trailer and you get on your phone and all that stuff. Yeah, I like to talk. But those kind of intents, there you go back to your trailer and you get on your phone and all that stuff. Yeah, I like to talk. But those kind of intents, there's nothing else to do

and we're gonna hang out. I remember shooting this really very low budget movie. It was really good, it's called, It's a Disaster. I really enjoyed it. But we had the option, because very low money, to get to split triple bangers or we could all be in this house across the really small trailer trailer with the three they're tiny you know you walk in it's just like a little room to change

room to change and then there's a toilet you you know. But we could have that, because it was an ensemble thing that was all shot in a house. And it was a real house, you know, in LA. Or we can make base camp the house across the street. And all of us were like, oh, house across street. And it's so much better. There's no going away to your thing and getting on your phone.

I think it makes the move, or the thing you're making better, too. Yeah, for sure. Because you're not sitting like, mm. Absolutely. OK, time to be on. Yeah. No, it was great. And I think that comes across in the movie.

And I'm friends with all those folks that was I mean shit that was 12 years ago I think yeah like that yeah but there it was a really fun experience yeah it's nice to like I feel like I have a lot of friends who don't aren't in this industry and that's really important to me but sometimes I'm really like, it's nice to talk to people who are doing this also because it's a crazy thing to be doing. Yeah, for sure.

I mean, I had a general dumb rule a while ago, I'm not going to date an actress. My wife, who was obviously my girlfriend first, you know, child actor, girlfriend before that was a makeup artist in the, you know, TV and film. Girlfriend before that. And I ended up breaking that rule. But it's also very nice because I dated a bunch of women

who weren't in the business and they don't, I don't think they truly understand like the hours you put in and it's like feast or famine. Sometimes you're, I'm not working for, you know, 11 weeks. Yes. And then sometimes I'm, you know, I won't see it for four months, you know, it's, and they get all the all the bullshit things like, you know, I have to go to L.A. for 36 hours to do press for this thing.

And I have to leave tomorrow. Yeah. And so that's nice about having a relationship with somebody who understands all of it. Yeah. As opposed to like, I mean, I had a general rule. Don't date actresses, lawyers, doctors. You can date an actress if she plays a lawyer or a doctor, but that's it. And hand models, you know, not interested. You know, only date bartenders.

That's it. Yeah. Just bartenders. That's it. Yeah. Just bartenders. I'm so insanely attracted to bartenders. Like just, I've had a number of girlfriends who were bartenders just because I, it's, when you meet them and they're bartending, that relationship. It's amazing.

It's, I mean, they're giving you alcohol. Yes. It's very nice of them. I'm happy to hear that, because I'm a server and like, I feel sexy doing that, or like, it feels powerful to be like, and I'm gonna make your night amazing. We're gonna have an amazing night together.

And that's all you're gonna know of me. Yeah, well, that's different, cause that's food. Yes, you mean specifically alcohol. Also bartenders, that's a really, I think, it's harder than it looks. You have to deal with so many different personality types and you have to intuitively, quickly know this is the kind of attitude I need with this person, this is the kind of attitude I need with

that person. And they're getting drunk. And they're getting drunk and they're getting hit on while you know, just like a sassy, strong, funny bartender. Yeah. Oh man, that's. Yeah, a woman who is handling herself. Yeah, yeah, exactly. And, all right. E.D., I. You gotta go.

I gotta go. Like. Oh goodness. What do you think of that? Hi. You know who that is? No. Who is that? It's... Well, you can't really say.

I don't... It sounds familiar. You don't like that. No, I don't think it's a good idea. I don't think it's a good idea. I don't think it's a good idea. I don't think it's a good idea. I don't think it's a good idea.

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It's somebody. So for you at home, I just got a email from the producer of this podcast with a guest. I'm going to say who it is. No, don't. That I'm going to say no to because I because he hates him. I don't hate him I just don't think he's funny at all and I think he's oh so lame like the corniest. I am sipping this piping hot tea

It burns Do or maybe I will. Maybe I will because it could be. Ooh, and you can get him. Well, I don't want to get him. I don't think he's a bad person. Get him. I just don't think he's very well thought of in this business. I think his jokes are corny and obvious, not clever and very kind of stereotypical.

He's disgusting. No, I don't think he's disgusting. I don't. Anyway, as I was saying, that's why I got my phone. You got to go. Well, yeah, I always got to go. But I close every show with a question from my daughter. Oh, that's awesome.

Okay, so, um, and she's seven. Uh, why would animal poop be good for plants if it's just waste and doesn't have any vitamins? That was a question that. I don't really know why manure, like why manure actually works. I don't know the science behind it. But I would say the stinkiness helps with growth. And you can take that across and like, I think the stinkiness helps with growth.

And you can take that across and like, that is a universal thing. That stinkiness helps. That's gonna help with growth. Stinkiness and warmth, that's gonna help with growth. What kind of growth? I mean, I guess mushrooms? Yeah, or with, I don't know I think when you're around someone and you start to get used to their stinkiness and growth Or their stinkiness and warmth that makes you grow as a person I

see I Don't know how she's gonna react to that answer, but I let me know I Yeah, I'd imagine she say what are you talking about? Well, yes, she now she's been now she started doing the what the what what she says that What the what the who what the who what I don't know where she picked it up animal poop because it's natural There's no don't talk. I'm not here. I'm not sure. You're just, you're...

That's a great question is what I would say. I'm a conduit here. I'm just... So that was the question. You answered it. You did. You answered it. Yeah. All right. To me as an adult, is that a satisfying answer? No. No. But to a seven-year-old, maybe it will be. Good.

All right. Well good all right well all right Edie thank you for coming on the show thank you for coming down here are you where you which way you going when you leave here I'm walking out of the building and making a left towards the cute hats I I'm going to buy one. Okay. And are you going to get get on the subway? Yeah. Okay. So then you'd yeah, to the left. That's that's what I want to know. Are you going to Union Square? They have the farmers market today.

Yes, I saw. The trout at the Hudson seafood place is very, very good. Okay. Yeah, fresh trout from the Delaware River. Oh wait, no, not if it's Hudson, Hudson River. Is there trout in the Hudson River? I don't know. Probably nasty trout. Yeah, I'm gonna say probably from the Delaware River.

They're a company based in Hudson Valley, but they're going, they're driving over the Delaware River. All the way to the Delaware River. All right. Not all the way. It's not that far. I gotta get that trout. Yeah, it is very good trout. Highly recommend it. All the way to the Delaware River. All right. Not all the way. It's not that far. I got to get that trout. Yeah, it is very good trout.

Highly recommend it. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you. Sense is Working Over Time is a Headgum podcast created and hosted by me, David Cross. The show is edited by Katie Skelton and engineered by Nicole Lyons with supervising producer Emma Foley. Thanks to Demi Druchen for our show art and Mark Rivers

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