Senses Working Overtime with David Cross - Jason Bateman

Episode Date: December 14, 2023

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And then when the second guest comes in I slide down to here, right? And I throw bombs. Yeah, we put it. We'll put a cactus there. We put a cactus there in this chair for now We have a yeah, you're up first and then we have Michelle Obama and Crazy, but neton Yahoo now Jason. I want to get your take on this whole such a booking is real hamist thing What's going on with that is real in the dip the dip of Hamas Yes going to focus do not disturb yeah We're already two minutes behind yes fuck I want

everybody to know that I was pretty hard out of a hard out at 930 yeah what are you doing I can't tell you that why because I'm embarrassed oh your cameo you do cameos to do a series of came. How about you wash that fucking hat, bro? I have. It just it's I know you're not keeping it unwashed for superstition because you guys have not lost in 35 years. And I got I have to say I'm very disappointed as I'm sure you are that we're not watching a Braves and or Dodger game. Yeah two years in a row Two years in a row Well, we didn't get swept but we won one game to a quietly. No, you just yeah

Baby, how are you kids? Yeah, baby. Um, how are you kids? Your daughters. Um, they are great. Um, Franny is uh, 16 now and you know, she's gonna be 17 in that's crazy weeks. Wow. What are yours now? Well, once dead, uh, it was a boarded, but um one which one kind of hope it was good. No, you know, which is kind of as long as the other one's okay Girl could be boy Hey, man, God's that's God's will. Yeah, God's will we get nothing to do with it, you know

and then Marlow who's who's here and alive is she'll be seven in a couple months. I brought her out. Remember when I brought her out? She was like this. We went to, you picked me up. I kept her what I was doing here.

Maybe arrested. And she was about one and a half, maybe one-ish back then. And you came to pick me up. We were going to go to a Dodgers game and I brought her out, kind of waved her at you. Look what we did. Well, it's that feeling, you want to show it off to your very, very, very good close friends. The closest. Dear friends, do you remember when we went to that, we've gone to a lot of games together, but the one where we were right behind the on-deck circle, and they were playing the

Cubs, and I think it was a wild card game, and I kept, we were literally right behind the guys in every single player that come up, I would just yell their name until they looked over and then when they looked over, I go, will you follow me on Twitter? Hobby, hobby bias, hobby, hobby, hobby bias, hobby, hobby, hobby, hobby, yeah, well, you know, you can get away with a lot as long as you don't curse. And when you're sitting up front, I mean, you can just have added, and they can't kick you out unless you curse. Like they're waiting for you to do a swear word,

and then they'll boot you. You talk about the... In any stadium I've found, if you're lucky enough to sit close enough where the players can hear you, right, right. You can actually affect the game if you're smart as you are with the things that you might say to a player like

Hey, don't worry about this situation how big the situation is just another game Like don't worry about the Yeah, you repeat the stakes to them You can ask them if the inhaleer exhale on their swing, you know, what's good one really wreck somebody. You know, that's a good idea. I know that. It's lefty on lefty and you know, he throws a curveball first pitch.

He has a 10% time. Yeah. That's pretty good. You know, it's good clean fun as we go. And we'll find out some personal shit. Get a private detective if you know who you team you're playing and you know the situation. Higher private detective that go through his trash dig up some dirt go, hey, who? Yolanda?

Right. Menace or something. You still remember her, right? I mean, it seemed like you got a pretty good three months with her. You're just stating facts. It's public information. Well, I mean, it seemed like you had a pretty good three months with her. You know, it's you're just stating facts. It's public information. Well, I mean, it's now it's public information, but uh, publicly sourced. You went through the trash, what you didn't, you hired somebody to do it. So your hands are clean. But what about our, okay, so this is going to air long after we're, or we live right now, we should get started by the way.

I'm serious about that heart out. Yeah, yeah, I know. I know you have a slate coming in here. Is it a kid's birthday party or what are you doing? Yeah, it is. It's an early we got. I want to know what is going. Is it? Give you a hint. Let's just look at my pants. And I want to show you that they're stretch in these pants.

Yeah. I'm not going to go wrestling. Are you, are you rock climbing? No, it's gonna be a golf game. Oh, that's way, that's nothing to be embarrassed about. No, it's not. Why? It's not football. Well, you're, it's not way, it's not way,

lifting in a movie. I played a guy that wasn't great at football and the, but also the, your stunt, stunt, stunt guy play. I did a lot of it. I was the face man. What, what, what movie were you? Did you play football? It was called necessary roughness.

Uh, what was the roughness necessary? It wasn't. No, it wasn't. I was playing on. It was. You had to, yeah, once you were in the seat, you realized that the roughness was completely unnecessary. Did anybody ask for their money back when you realized that the roughness was completely unnecessary. Did anybody ask for their money back when they found that out?

I bet they did. Yeah. I mean, you're selling me on roughness that is necessary. It turns out it's completely unnecessary. The money wasn't necessary for this kind of entertainment. It was me for starters. There was a free for your post team both too. Oh, everything's post team. Everything's cool. The tape stays in vaping. That was 18. I did start when I was 10. So

there was a football team made of a softie like me, Sinbad, Scott Pagkula, Kathy Ireland. Who else? No wonder this thing tanked. Right. I mean, how is it? There's literally no reason to go. No, they can't win anything. What?

What did the team, what a terrible team. Who did they play? Kathy Ireland was the place kicker. Right. There's no one tried to like make the audience believe shoes. They'd still be at the line. They'd still be at the top of the division if they were in the NFC South though. I bet yes, that's true. It's still be about five and two that with a very favorable schedule coming. Are you football fan at all? I am. I don't I I mean, I like the Cowboys because when I was a little boy, they were doing

very well. This is in the 70s. So I do still have a place on my heart for them. But in L.A., we didn't have a team for a long time. Right, right. And that coincided with a period of my life where I enjoyed the gamble. Yeah, really? So I didn't know that about you. Yeah, I loved to bet on football. Um, and so I fell in love. How much did you lose on the time that the reason I no longer gamble?

I think it was like a $6,000 weekend or something. I mean, not in the world of, of, of gambling, it's problems. Right. Um, that, that's That's a pretty shallow bottom. But it's still scared me enough to get the hell out. But I managed to fall in love with any team that had a favorable spread. So I was quite the whore and remain so. I can fall in love with any team any weekend. I guess that's not me. I'm in a pick I'm league now, you know, where I just spend a hundred bucks at the beginning

of the year like Arpathetic Fantasy Baseball League. Which did you come in third this year? No, dude, it was, it wasn't as bad as two years ago where I was doing quite well until the last three or four weeks and then just Epic epic slide, but you are consistently disciplined and attentive You know try to be we get a lot of we get a lot of owners in this crap league that I run What they're just deadbeats you my friend you're a you're a busy man, you're a family man, and yet you still find some time. God bless you. I love it. I mean, a little to the consternation of my wife sometimes where I'll get up, I'll even set my alarm sometimes to, if I round the trade deadline to, you know.

I used to do that. But yeah, when was the last time you won? Back when I sent my alarm clock to get my prior off the way we're lying, coming, coming out of AAA. Wow, that's going back. But you do just a letter by no, Jason is the commissioner of, is it like 20 years now? We eluce the word. it's probably 20 years or something. Yeah, we've been doing this leap and Jason's graded it. We started by the way, we started when this is started.

This we're in the podcast right now, we're potting. Yeah, we're we're we're pie casting. Huh, yeah, this is fun. Can we, as people over there, Casey guys, can we, can you try to, we're gonna call a little, or not patent, but copyright, P casting. Yeah, it'll put it on. Get it get on that now. We know we have some folks in

Washington. Yeah, what is it? Yeah, but hold on a what are we doing? What are we doing here? When do you have a fucking podcast? What's this called? It's a good question. Where we doing? What are we doing here? So when do you have a fucking podcast? What's this called? It's a good question. Where is it right there? Sensitive working head gum. No senses working over time With David Cross. Yeah, look at that nice sketch to who did that? I Don't know his name off hand. I'm sorry Demetri Yes, Shostakovich.

We'll cut it in later. A great, great grandson of the famous Shostakovich. Sense is working overtime. Yes, I remember. I remember there was a, um, my favorite thing. I smelt touched eight and Poked yeah, it's something Well, I as I said in the cover letter, which you didn't read I did but anytime you see a different color for Dear Jason and then the rest of the thing is is in black

It's like oh, this is so it sends everybody. Yeah, it's called a cover letter. Yeah. Do you know, there was last time I saw cover letter was on the top sheet of the arrest development script. Did you have it? Did you ever, did you ever get the script for a rest of it? I'm sure you did. Or was it just sides or anyway, then they sent me the script. You tell me the pilot, the pilot, The pilot. The cover letter said,

dear David. Dear David. Scratch out, Jason. Anyone who is looking for a nice dressing room, hair, makeup, lights, marks on the floor, this job is not for you. This is gonna be basically news gathering. This is going to be basically news gathering. This is a mockumentary. Um, we're going for something. They're basically saying

to the agents, don't send us any of your candy ass diva actors. This is going to be something that's, uh, we're going to go for something different here. I just remember reading that and going, oh, they're never going to see me for this. I'm, I'm like a sitcom guy and they're going for something kind of cool and subversive and no frills and they need folks like David Cross, people with straight. Well, I came to it later. I came a little later in the process. I think you had been, you had been set,

Jeffrey and Jessica were set. The kids were set. Those aren't that in yet? No, because they wanted me to look at Job. Oh, yeah. And also, which I had no handle on. I had no. I haven't been so much better.

And and also Buster too. They, uh, what if you played all three? You could have done that. Mitch, while we would have loved that. Just one mustache and then you've revealed that it's the same. It's a same guy doing a big mustache that you could pull off turn upside down and make it into a beard for the other character. Right.

And it's like a like a threes company like, oh, my twin brothers in the other room. I'll go get them. Hello, I'm the twin. Uh, yeah, I, I, uh, now I have to ask you because, because everyone asks me and this is the most I have. I have to. I have to. I'm straight and I don't color my hair. Uh, you see, you switched it up. One of those two questions. So what made you go straight? Yeah. It just wasn't working out. It hurt. Yeah, yeah. Physically or emotionally? Emotionally. Okay. Yeah, that. Yeah, yeah. Physically or emotionally emotionally. Okay. Yeah, let's not because sometimes physically well, I don't think love making his crass. Sorry. Well, it really

depends on what what half of the equation you're going to be, David. Right. Topper bottom. Listen, middle or you middle, you're a middle. Jason Bateman's a middle. Jason, meet Bateman. Jason Bateman's of middle. Jason, meet Bateman. Um, uh, well, oh, yes. So I have to ask you, um, so Jason, yes, haven't any more arrested developments? Oh gosh, have I had a dollar? Um, yes.

Oh, yes. We have, uh, season seven, uh have a season seven. Oh, come right over yeah, we didn't work out those seasons. No, you know what it wouldn't and actually wouldn't surprise first one. No one's asked me that in a long time. I have been asked that after I mean, they used to get it literally all the time. There's the first one's the movie. Yeah, yeah, so I have to ask because everyone wants to know and but even after Jessica passed I still get asked that I'm like how are we gonna do it without we see a what it would be and I'm get a little angry get a little it would be uh less than half the show without her

however I wouldn't be surprised if we got a call. No. Well, yeah, but like, and sort of like, couldn't you see Mitch calling and saying, hey, listen, you ever seen the Michael Aptid thing, seven up, 14 up, 20, you know, and what, what if we did that? That's a pretty good impression, actually. Right. It does sound like. But couldn't you see him getting excited, and I could see us getting excited about the idea of like, oh, yeah, we'll just revisit it every seven, 10, 20 years and

well, whoever's still alive gets to come in. And that is actually interesting. Whoever's still alive or not canceled, you can't be canceled either. We just keep going until we run out of folks. Well, you know, we, I think it was actually God, who who had this idea Somebody had a really great idea. We were starting to do the press for the last season, which was a bit of a debacle, but somebody had the idea of doing it animated, an animated, arrested, with same characters,

and, you know, that would be fun. That would be fun, and I think people would like it, I think. To trick with, not to give a real answer, but you've done animated stuff. I've done animated stuff. And what I didn't realize but then did is that, you know, you know, you do, you record the dialogue and then a year later, an animator will push out the drawing

that matches your reading. And you hope that the combination between facial expression and the line reading is the cocktail that up until then we as individuals have always been in control of. You can say, I love you or I hate you with a different look on your face and it's either going to be funny or dramatic. Like there's a, there's a,

two hands clapping there. And with animation, you're, you're at the, at the, the mercy of whatever this animator is going to put on your face. And so it's a tough thing. You just hope that the, the comedic recipe is land. It sounds like you did some animation that didn't really work out for you. Sounds like it sounds like you on the animator. You came to this excuse later after the finished product. Why is this not working? No, actually, Jason, you know on the voice of the Caramel or Caramel M&M, right? You guys know that? Just the Caramel. Just the Caramel. Right. I'm the voice of the Caramel or Caramel Eminem, right? You guys know that? Just the Caramel? Casey, did you?

Just the Caramel. Right. I'm the voice of the Caramel Eminem. Anybody cares? No one, that's amazing. He's the mute one. Uh huh. Yeah, he witnessed a Caramel Eminem went through the Iraq Ward and witnessed some terrible

things. It stopped talking after that. It's a, there's a whole backstory. I gave him. Yeah. And now he's taking mushrooms for treatment. Yeah. Yeah. No, I just, but, but I would, you know, Mitch did an animated show called

Sit Down Shut Up that I did a voice in for a while. Did you do any of that? No, no. And he was very, you picked a great animator for that. So I, he would probably be great about getting an animator for it. But I just thought it was a cool way to do it uh that we could all still do, but you know, because we had there were several issues with uh we won't go into with uh with the time.

You're talking about your deal. Yes. Your per package. Yeah, I mean you can call it whatever you want. It's just the lotion. Right. I mean, that's a pretty simple last. I have a gallon of lotion on standby. And it's, I understand it can be difficult when we're shooting up in the, where are we

in there? Seamy Valley. Seamy, but no, is that where the, up in the desert, kind of, mountains, whatever. Sandemus or near Magic Mountain, is that what we're talking about? Wherever we were for like three to, it was like an hour and, you know, hour and hearty minutes. It was very hot. It was hot, dusty, no amenities, and I just, you know, if you got a air drop at or whatever lotion, right?

You can't be drying up. I can't be drying up. I mean, this is, this is the money right here. It will look over you. You do actually, you do actually look pretty good. Thank you. I, you know, we're not, we're not 30 anymore. No, I'm not even close. I'm 54, you're older than me, but not by much. No, I'll be 60

Soon in a couple of years. No, no next year. I'm 59. What are we doing for 60? I'm 59 and a half I am as of a couple weeks ago. I think I think I want more adults to keep saying I'm like on the Senate floor like listen to me I'm 79 and a half years old David, what are we doing for 60 you know you got to kind of blow it out? It's no no no I know I know no no no no Yeah, I don't I'm calling Amber. We're gonna. No. No, no Amber. I is I'm giving strict instructions That's what that's why that's where you get surprise parties from. I don't, I, I wouldn't, I don't like that idea.

Will you be tied down and gagged so you'd, I threw Amber an epic, her 40th birthday was a couple months ago and I threw her an epic surprise party. Even though she knew I was throwing her a party, I still managed to surprise her. Yeah. How? On the level of it. So she thought we're going to some another dinner party and it ended up being... She wouldn't let me. She was real shitty about not letting me just... She was so for months. I mean, I'm talking actually a year, a year before it.

She's like, hey, so you're going to do something special, right? Like that kind of shit. And like as we were getting closer, like, she's sending me names, like, hey, I know you haven't met her, but if you were to do something, you should call. Just make sure that blah blah is somebody, you know, some feminist author, she, you know, like whatever. And I had to move the space. So I had a big space.

This isn't Brooklyn, right? And initially, and I had this, the whole thing was supposed to be levels of surprises, right? So it started, there's this around the corner from us, this kind of fancy high T place. And I was like, oh, she'll like that. So I had her like a 330. There was a, for her to go there and three friends surprising her. Oh, cool, friends who lived there.

Then half an hour into that, four more friends from out of town, we're gonna show up. She'd be like, what? Yeah, so that happened. Did you pull the office surprise as she'd think it'd be over? And then, yes, and then there was like a dinner thing.

And then I was like, oh, we're gonna go to this place and she kept the list that she would send me was, and she's a very, very sociable person, unlike myself. Like, she has a million friends. My wife has all the friends. I have none. And she gives me shit. Like, why don't you go out, go call Sid, call John,

you know, call Shannon, go out. I was like, watch the game, I have a glass of wine. Yeah, you can't tell me a lot. Pretzels, and she's go out and was like, ah, watch the game, we have glass of wine. Yeah, he's under a lot. Pretzels, and she's always out and everything. And she has a million friends. And it got so big that we had to move. I was already on like a rooftop thing at the Wyeth Hotel in Williamsburg.

And there were so many people, I had to move it to this larger space and I kept, every new person was like another hundred dollars for catering and she walked in. And she thought she was going to this like kind of a banquet room, not a banquet room, but like a private dining room somewhere

and with like 35 people or something. And there were, I don't know, a hundred plus from all over the country, people would come in from England as well. And just it was great. And and DJ Bands, Quest Love, DJ. Yeah. He's a friend. He DJ'd our wedding upstate New York. Was there a theme, David? Just like, oh, you married the most awesome husband in the world. It was kind of the unspoken theme. Come with something nice to say about David. And you know, we had a friend of ours kind of helped me with this. And we had photos that were on, you know, montage photos from when, you know, through her life and all that stuff.

You didn't send out a thing and make everyone do some freaking video for her, right? Like that drives me nuts. No. I think it's the laziest thing someone can do. It's like, hey, so don't say anything, but, you know, I'm going to do this thing for Jim and just send me just a one minute video of saying whatever It's like it's to it's no work for the mate It's just a ton of work for all the friends to send this video and then you make like a

Just had no no video for Jason Scrapped the video And get on those emails get and make sure they're not sent there. See if you can answer. I so comment, I feel, and so lazy. And then I've just come up with a real shitty kind of no. Well, I think it might be fun for the person though. I, I get what you're saying.

It's an easy thing for the, you know, it's not like blowing 40 grand on a fucking dumb ass birthday party in Brooklyn, where you're going to pay for cheese. It's going to get thrown away or, or remembering that really sweet thing. She said she wanted eight months ago and you secretly got it and you sat on it and you wrapped it nice and you just like you saved it. He wrapped it nice. Well then it's just like you know remembering like that she would probably love that instead of. Can you do both? Oh you made all my friends see the you know. I don't think people see it. I don't think women see it that way. I know that's. Here we go, get ready to get the calls.

Oh, five sexists. Social media. It tell us what else you think women like and what they don't like. Okay, I think women, I find, this is just my experience and what I've observed in life, but women be shopping. I find that women be shopping.

But you're still listening. You're just as important for you to listen, right? That's what they say. You're listening and learning. Yeah, that's what they say. And when I got married, I was like, I'm gonna be a better listener and I'm gonna be a better listener, and I'm gonna be more emotionally available,

and then I was like, yeah. You know, I thought about it, and I was going to do it, but then. You are doing a bit, but I will say. I qualify someone that was around before and around after, and she did push you in a good direction. Oh, she did, yes. That is true.

Well, as your Amanda did for you, you know. Oh yeah. And I, really? Yeah, you and I did have some time before Amanda. Well, Hank. Oh, Hank, that was, yeah. Now, I later named a dog that Mike Gulling. Really like Hank, who's now passed, yeah, did you ever meet Hank?

I did, the French bulldog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I had a little, and I think Hank, the tank came from, wasn't that what Will Ferrell called himself in old school? I never saw that, I don't know, but. That was funny. But so pre, we're back in the early, early days, early days.

Uh, oh, this wasn't a prompt for you to like go ahead and just like let your listeners know what a fucking wipe out. I will. Well, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you what, you were take this power ever you want. You were a lot more fun. Yeah, no, I know. To some. You were great.

I mean, I would, I'd put you up there in the top level, top 10 of just messes. But good fun messes, not for you and for those who loved you, but to hang out with, because I'm, I can go there easily, still do sometimes, much less now, but yeah, you were a fun, you weren't like, you were fun trouble, you weren't like. Yeah, I don't remember drinking because I was sad, I remember drinking because I was in a great mood and let's take this 10 to a 12. Yes, which is how I am, too.

Right, yeah. It's more keyedness than for shorter. Wasn't there something about climbing a light pole? A light. Somewhere here in Silver Lake, too, I think. I got up on, managed to climb up a, like a... A big, a tall one. Yeah, like a like a red light thing. Now it was a street. It was a light on the sidewalk at some. Isn't my wasn't

there was I climbing up to get my belt? Did I throw my belt up there? It was something. Oh, wait. You know about I don't know if we ever gave it to you. Holy shit. Do you know Will and I, so I had the belt and Will, we hit it. We had it in one of our dressing rooms and we were going to like gift wrap it or something. The belt from my pants. The belt from, yeah, what other belt? Well, there's the belt.

You always travel with a conveyor belt. Right, well, I thought you were talking about the one for masturbation that you show me that you use. Oh, the SNM thing? Yeah, no. Do the self-exphyxiation one? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's, well, you don't call it a belt in the day.

You call it a lover. Yeah. You got to really hit yourself to the lingo. Yeah, you're belt that, yes, I think we threw it up somewhere, you threw it up somewhere, and then you had to go get it. But at some point, you forgot, you got it and then forgot it. So I brought it to Will. I was like, oh, Jason, we had a fucking epic night and blah, blah, blah. And we, the joke was going to be we were going to give it to you like a year later. And I think we forgot. It's probably still in one of those Starwagon's double-banger over there.

20. Huh. Next to the canotune fish, I left up high in his closet waiting for it to create a stink months later. I probably told you this, but one of the greatest pranks ever. It was simple, it wasn't clever, but I was doing a movie with Jay Moore and Dennis Leary. Jay and Dennis were like frenemies, adversarial. It was all about stand up and stuff. And then Jay went to Dennis's trailer and took a shit and then closed all the windows and turned the heat, blasted the heat. That was like, wow, that's pretty great. Yeah, that's pretty great. Yeah, it all comes down to how long you can keep that room hot. I think well

I was you do it the night before the middle of the summer in LA. I'm not gonna cool down. I'm not great How are you dealing with the homeless situation out here? It's tough. It's tough Yeah, any ideas? I do have a couple. Yeah Yeah, we just put a put a fun together and buy them all homes. That's would fix it. You're right. I honestly, I was walking down. I was actually coming back from here because I wanted I came here yesterday just to make myself familiar with it and the area and how long of a walk it would be and hang on. You were scouting out your commute to make sure you weren't late. This is what you do the day before shit. Yeah. You know, it's funny to you. Well, there's apps now where you can kind of educate your drive time. Oh, I walked. This is a, it turned that to be 2.2 miles. I had to hit the day off. I'm a little picture of a dude mid-stried

You hit that button and it'll tell you how long it'll take for you to walk and who's that that's a picture of like Derry West I had to go all backs for that for that shoot My silhouette was not lean enough. Who is it? They can't find him. Oh really? He's still walking. Yeah. Do you remember? they can't find him. Oh really? He's still walking. He's still. Do you remember? He's passed now, but the guy, the guy who was the picture for the crosswalk sign. Yes, he's dead. Yeah, what? Yeah, yeah. No way. That was Billy Barney, right? I thought Billy Barney died. Good luck with that reference. No, it was a real guy and he was around here. Silver Lake, Los Files, Ecoparic,

but he would just have shorts on, no shirt, and long athletic socks, and he would have a paper, a newspaper, and he walked super the fastest walk I've ever seen. And when he died, there was actually in a bitch-wary, but he was like a town character guy. He just walked in shorts and socks, reading a paper.

With a newspaper, he had a newspaper, but you know how you can fold it in? Sure. He folded it in a quarter. Right, a guy. And he would sit there and he would walk up and down sunset boulevard. He died like seven, eight years ago,

and there was literally a thing in a bitch's worry. He was a doctor or, I was retired some, something, doctor attorney or something like that. And he would, I mean, it was comical. Sure. Hall and ass with looking at this paper, like that was, like weird, like he's mentally, what do you think he might

have had a mental issue, David? Is that what you're about to say? Uh, yeah. But, I mean, uh, and maybe that's what he did to clear his head or something, but he'd be there every morning. He was well informed. I don't know how you can read, I never saw him turn the page. Uh, I don't know how you can read and walk that fast. And then also avoid people and human shit that is on the sidewalk here. Imagine how much longer you would have lived during the age of the daily. Or you just listen to the news. You know, you'd still be walking, head up, eyes up.

Faster, yeah. Avoiding traffic. Yeah. I wonder if he's one of those guys who's, he's kind of like a luttite that way. Like he doesn't, is interested in an ear pod. No, thank you. He'd much rather read it, doesn't trust it.

Yeah. I don't even know how you physically do that much. It's a great time for a commercial break. Guys, you're right. We run a spot. Hey guys. David Cross here. Thanks to our sponsor. Oh, my God.

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but want said this isn't creamy enough well the good folks at acres farms are uh-huh. Yeah, he's got a pliable audience So let's talk about politics. Thank you by the way for coming on the podcast today What is your feeling about the future? Are you bullish? Are you a little pessimistic? What would how do you think things are gonna go over the next six to 12 months? Oh, boy. Well, let me give you two answers. One is the larger overview. And it's, and I'm being serious here.

It's, I am by nature a pessimistic, cynical person. But since I had a kid, I, not proactively, but have found myself, and now I've embraced it in being optimistic and finding the good and things that I didn't necessarily see before. You don't get exhausted by that effort in that your good picture gets tarnished at some point. I mean, but it always, yes and no, but I can't afford, I don't want to raise a kid and be that cynical and pessimistic, at least around her, or for it even to come out in ways that I'm not even realizing.

And she and all our friends in the kids at school are just, I mean, I love watching those kids. I love the innocence and the that they're not assholes. And they haven't, you know, some of them, including my daughter, might turn into that. I don't know, but right now, they're awesome. As a parent, I find myself sort of trying to find the right moment to start to condition them that it's not all

unicorns and rainbows. Like at some point, you want them to have some sort of coping mechanism for the realities of not everybody gets a trophy, not everybody's bright, not everybody has an ethic or moral compass, et cetera, et cetera. But like, when is that? Like as soon as they're smart enough to intellectualize it, or do you give them a little time with that brain? Uh, that's a great question. I'm sure everybody has their own intuitive feeling of when that is, we, when she was still a fetus, we put air pods on her ears and we, uh, we, she would listen

to the daily and, uh, and, uh and so she came out pretty hot. No, because something that we couldn't we couldn't fix. We couldn't figure out because once you go in there, you can't go back in there and flex your teeth. It switched over to the smart list podcast. Now is just, you can't get a serious thing. It's all silly, you know, and then, and, and she has spent, and she's only six going on seven. But for her entire life, even before she was speaking,

it was some of her first words where she cannot figure out whether she wants a Hyundai or a GMC Sierra. And it's a big issue. It's a big issue. And. One's professional grade and one is just, it's your journey. It's how do you pick between a journey that is yours

or something that is absolute professional grade? It's, when you put it that way, it's really tricky. And I would just, I think there's something about who's giving me this information. Is that person trustworthy? The messenger. Yeah, the messenger. And I'll, that's why. The messenger. Yeah, the messenger. And I'll...

That's why Sean's there. Because when you fall in the gap between me and Willarnet, there is the fertile land. Well, and his voice is quite different. Oh, yeah. Yours is soothing and it's almost like a blanket, you know? not wet, not, no, not a wet blanket, warm. It's like one of those, it's like one of those fart capture blankets that they have. Those are comfortable.

The fart blankets. Well, you know, it's not, it's too soak up your fart. That's a real thing. Well, it's thick enough to mask all that sounds. That's a real thing that is available. The most important. I'm gonna tell Amanda she might want to look into. It is, that's a real thing. No, we have two doves.

I don't know, that's being serious here. I want you and Amber to try this. I wouldn't call it a marriage saver like the DVR. But uh, this is this is a good thing. The DVR saved your marriage. Well, a good portion of it, you know, hey, babe, you want to go out Friday night? Uh, uh, can't big, big game. What do you mean? Well, Dodgers are playing big game. Well, can't you just tape it? Babe, no, the tape that doesn't but with the DVR, it's super, yeah, great. Let's go wherever you want to go. Friday night. But then you spend the entire

night going, could you turn that TV off, please? Exactly. I'm keeping it. Exactly. Everybody can you turn your phones off for me? Thank you. But to do Vaze, which for the Philistines out there is just a big warm top cover. I think people know what to do. What some of them don't. It's like, what's crew to say? Well, it's a veggie plate. You talk to your buddy who was running for governor over there.

And what was his name, Dr. Oz? Right? Remember him? Remember the trouble your pal got into with that? My pal. Yeah. So, to do vase, if you're a light sleeper like me, when your partner turns over, right, as you do a thousand times, you say, that duvet gets pulled off of you or just even just

slides across you, but it'll wake you up. You have to do vase. That way you're wrapped in your thing and if she's gonna roll around and do whatever she does or they're kicking and are twisting and are goddamn, you know, you're still sleeping, you're fine. Do you understand what I'm saying? David.

I think, can I suggest instead of two duves? I do. Well, therapy. Marriage counseling. Yeah, we're doing that too. Okay. Did the guy say, for the woman go, can I tell you two duvets? No, well, here's the thing.

I became a light sleeper. I was never a light sleeper until my daughter was born. And then I still have wake up. One in one year. I then I still have wake up. One in one in one. I mean, all I have wake up easily. And, but I also, my wife and I, she's from Southern California. I'm not.

So we have different temperature. Yeah, like her realm of comfort is about 12 degrees. Yeah, outside of that, 12 degrees on either side, she's either too hot or too cold. And I feel bad for people who are born and raised here, with their inability to function outside of the regular. Yeah, actually, I don't feel bad for them. I feel bad for their partners who have to deal with that.

You know, when anything's below 60. It's freezing and if it's above 75 it's boiling and So I and I see you're gonna be a dream when she hits menopause You're just gonna be about the best partner you can imagine I'll be long gone Large gap in our age. What age gap? I'll be dealing with it. Oh God, you'll just be dead. Yeah, I'll be.

You haven't moved on to some little starlet. No, no, no, no. No, I would, I'm very happy in our marriage. You know, it's a, we've made news today. No, it's good. I mean, she's, she's, she's going to be good. Not the greatest. It was to buy a slime ever.

How are things going? Good. Good. It's going to be good. I think I improvise it. It's pretty good with a full body lean. It's going to be good. That was our first scene together.

And then I remember finishing that scene and going over to a midterwitz, our boss, I said, because you would clearly done a take on the character that no one could imagine. You're David Cross for Christ's sake. And so I finished that scene with you. The first time I'd seen you do the character, I'm playing, you know, somebody, you know, so straight. It's just boring to watch. But here you are doing this incredible take on him. But it was just so through me. I was like, oh, fuck, how are we

in the same show? I remember pulling Mitch, I was like, hey, can I talk to you for a second? I said, hey, so work with him. Yeah, no, this guy, he seems great, but is this what you had in mind? Is this he's doing what you wanted? Because I mean, I can adjust for sure. I can get in his show, but does he need to come to mind? Or are we good? Is it, he's like, oh no, it's great, it's good.

I said, okay, here we go. Take two. And I actually had the same note on horrible bosses. I remember after doing the table read. I've told, I think I've told both these stories before I apologize, but after hearing, I'd never seen Charlie Day do his thing on, on, uh, always sunny in Philadelphia, uh, Sedacus, you know, it can do a million different things. He's sketch comedy. But I remember after the table read for that, I remember pulling a director side and saying, hey, so should I go into their movie

or should they come into mind? How do we, he's like, no, I think it's where I go, okay, I'm just gonna tell you, I'm gonna play this character in a way where I can't believe I'm still friends with these guys. Because is that cool with you? Is like, sure, can I see it? I'm like, here it comes.

So I just played the whole film. Who directed it? Seth Gordon. Just furious that I was still friends with a couple of nincompoops like this. And it worked. And I did the same thing for a rest of development. Like, but it was sort of written in the show

that my character was just outraged that he was surrounded by such a serious Constantly you your babysitting your and the and the Incomponents around you that you're surrounded by and but it may it really made those moments where Like when you say I just blew myself and then I could just just stare at you and just just blink a couple times. Yeah, just fascinated it how you just don't understand what you just said Yeah, and what's that line of say like have you ever just recorded what you say just for a day? Yeah, give one of those little tape recorders to bias But it when you're when your character would you know find the strength to when you're when your character would, you know, find the strength to go, you know, fuck these people, I'm moving George Michael, let's get at it. And then it, it's literally made it,

it gave it so much, it grounded it and made it so there's like this empathy and, right. And somewhat relatable. Like, okay, at least there's somebody from earth in with these Martians. And then yeah, because it wasn't just the family, but they, you know, a waiter or a doctor or a lawyer or, you know, like, yeah, what about Ian? Remember as the doctor, this could never roll. What really? Yeah, super literal. Yeah, he, he, what was he saying? He's all left. He's left hand. We're remembering. Yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, uh,

busters, um, it left his hand or losses anyway. Um, um, we should do. We should do the enemy version. We should get that going today. I thought that was a good idea. Um, Jason, you only have strong 11 minutes, 11 minutes. Let 11 minutes left. Let's finish strong here. We seriously should roll at some point, because it's a very short episode. It's... For her, so it's been incredible.

I think where it's been... Well, we're just setting the cameras, yeah. We're gonna end with a question from Marlow. I have her. Give me questions for every guest. And we'll get to that. I want to make sure, because Jason's got to leave He's got to get to the golf course. He's got to get to a golf course

What do you do you get your do you put your ear on a normal? Yeah, yeah I have an old farmer waiting for me in the golf cart when I get there. That's the way it works in golf And you're and this is what you're raising money for. Well, a lot of it is for charity. Okay, you want to be a little more specific. They're pretty discreet, actually. No, they don't want to be showy about it at all, but they need it.

So I got to get there. And who are you playing with? Troy Ackman and Troy and Lilliyati and who's on your team? And Sinbath. And Sinbath. Oh, that's good. You've maintained a relationship with a mapper of the same year. Never left each other.

You never what? Never left each other after that. Oh, I thought you said you never liked each other. No, I did not say that. It sounded like that. Casey, you want to just run that back. Get an AI thing and have them say that. Now, Jason, what's the Capricorn? Okay, there you go. Capricorn. That's your favorite movie? Capricorn 1. Yeah. Now, what did you think of Capricorn, uh, that's your favorite movie. Capricorn one. It's Capricorn one.

Yeah. Now, what did you think of Capricorn three? Uh, is about three times as good as the first one? Really? Yeah. Is that kind of, that's how I felt about Jaws 3D. Cause Jaws was great. Jaws to, yeah, Jaws 3D, holy, this time it's personal.

That was the tagline. Jaws 3, for real, the tagline was never remembered. I think it was this one's gonna hurt. That was a seven. Jaws 3, I'm not making this up, you can go look at it. This time it's personal, the shark was taking it, took something personally from the last two movies. The last two movies, I think it was the mom or something. taking it took something personally from the last,

the last two movies, it was, I think it was the mom or something. I think it was upset about the deal structure. You can do this one, it was going to be quite profitable. Right. And just 3D has some of my favorite extra acting too. When there's like an aquarium underground tube. There's a scene.

Did you ever see it? You're talking about the Georgia aquarium, the underground tube. I love the Georgia aquarium. That's one of my all-time favorite places. I'll be going back there for Thanksgiving. We go to, all my family's still in, most of my family's still in Atlanta

and go back there every year for Thanksgiving and always go to the aquarium take Marlow. I love it. You give Uncle Jerry his hat back. I want to wash it before you return it. Well I have washed it. I've washed it. I want to try a soap. Yeah. I keep washing it and it's a Native American thing where he washed it in dirt and grease. It's a, it goes back. It's like, I want to say a rapahoe. Who doesn't? You're going to get a lot of emails on that.

Casey, look up the Indian, the, uh, maybe, might be Cree, might be Cree. Um, okay. Oh, shit. I forgot. Hey, stay right there. Yeah. Oh, I forgot about this. Should I play a little music?

I'll wait. How's that lower back pops? I got you this speaking of dirty hat. Here I got this hat for you. Turning it, looking at it. Hey, Los Angeles, 50 years tops. This is very good. All right, good. Mitchell and Ness. Is it seven and a half? Is that right? I think it is. Yeah, because when you were...

No. No? It's a little tight, but as soon as I get rid of my Danny Terrio hair, it might fit. But you know what, you've got a big head, you're doing it, it was swollen. Okay. As soon as I get knocked down a peg, this is going to fit great. Damn it. Well, where do we get, I need a bigger,

because I like this. You know what, I asked him, I was guessing, because you don't know this, but I flew out here. I know you're a light sleeper, but I measured your head. I, do you remember the use, you overslept one day? That was because I had put a bunch of ad bill PM in your stake. And so it was, it was so I could come in and measure your head.

Which I did and I had the calipers and everything. And then- And it couldn't get all the way under for fear of waking me up and that's why we've got a bad time here. Exactly. So I guessed on the fraction. Yeah. I knew it was seven something.

And then I asked the lady when I got the hat, it was like, can I return this if his head is grown since I measured it? And she said no, but also I don't work here and this isn't a hat store. And I was like, oh, she said, but if you want to ring up that ball gag, then you, I think that gentleman over there is who you want to talk to. You've painted a good picture. This was on your scout when you were scouting your commute to work the other day. Just walking up and down sunset here. Yeah.

First of all, you say that like it's crazy, but that's only cause you don't walk. I like to walk and I'm right around the corner from where I was last time I was here. You picked me up and went right by Dodger Stadium. Yeah. And I walk because I had time. I'm in the middle of a tour. I'm about to end this tour, 74 shows, I'm like that.

Are you playing here in Los Angeles? I mean, I did a while ago. Where's the phone call? Where's the or a text or any amount? Oh, you know what, that's right. I'm supposed to text and phone every single person I know in LA. I know, and you're mom right now, right?

Like, why didn't you tell me you were on Letterman? What is it man? Oh my God, my mom, all the time. Like, and little stuff, like. It's your fault. It's, but it's like the, you know, why did you tell me not even like a bigger thing, like just, you know, whatever.

I don't know. Or just a petulant sort of like congrats on such and such, like something you may have mentioned on a talk show. So just like to drop it. I didn't know, well, she doesn't get, you know, she gets a little whiny but not like shitty, but she'll, it'll be more like, I didn't know you didn't add for the old spaghetti factory and um, it's certain stuff you try to keep quiet. Yeah, yeah. I didn't know you, you're on,

you have been only fans. Um, well, I just learned what that was the other day. Oh, yeah, right. Somebody tried to walk me through that. Right, right. You just learned about that the other day. What a fucking on my, no one believes you. On my kids life, I've, I've never gone on that site. I was going, there's a difference between going on the site and being aware of what it is.

Well, at some point, you don't know anything till you know it and somebody. What? Yeah. You don't know anything till you know it, right? You're not born with a base of knowledge. You sound like an eight year old trying to get out of something.

You don't know anything till you know it, right? That's what you said, Dad. You said that one time. Well, you don't know the red light is for stop and the green light's for go unless somebody tells you that, right? You could assume that the green means stop or red means go, but that's not what somebody told me. Now I know for the rest of my life, red means stop,

because someone told me that. Only fans. Somebody told me this is a porn site for amateurs. Maybe as as I know it, it's a or wait, no, I'm confusing that with only pants. Red gum. Red, red tube. No, red tube is porn, right? Right. Is it in that amateurs? Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I'm just in the like brand. I'm in a, I'm in a, a just Eastern blind team. No, Eastern block grannies. Someone who's selling a,

a goat and some rugs. It really gets you going. Yeah, but with like, you know, cleavage. No, only fans is like, you can, because I've seen so many stories of like cops or teachers who are trying to supplement their income who have an only, only fans account.

And then, but it's like, I don't think it's porn. I think it's, it's like nudity, right? Yeah, I don't think it's porn. It's like naked pictures. No, so it's just still pictures. I think, oh, I don't know, maybe video too, but you know what, it's just still pictures. I think oh, I don't know maybe video too, but you know what? It's a you sign up you get

Casey oh Late I think you've already exposed that you kind of know the apparatus. Oh, I do know what only it is I'm not I'm living America in 2023 so yes, I'm gonna invite email. Yes, I can. I'll have an account. Do you? Yeah. So then how does it work? Is it there, there's stills? Or is there a video that you could, you could pay a little extra for video? I think it's something like that. And because there was, it literally, a story two days ago about a teacher, no, a, somebody was running for office, a Democrat in Virginia. I'm not kidding.

Who was supplementing her income as a teacher with an only fans account and then something like that. I'm probably conflating a couple of crazy people. It was like someone either running for office or in office and her husband had like a joint only fans and that she got in trouble. And it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, and it's, she's a Democrat too. And it's her just showing naked shots of herself

or she engaged in some sort of sexual act. Can you pull it up? Let's pull it up. Great. Here we go. Yeah, it's actually it's 9.30. Oh, okay. Sorry Jason, you got to go.

We got to go. Isn't that convenient David? We were so close to Amber's only fans page trying to market that on your podcast. It's pathetic. You money, let's not leave money on the table, as they say, right? How many years, good years left? Sorry, how many good years left does Amber have? All right?

Let's make some. We were talking about the other day. How many Christmas is do we have left All right. Well, let's make it. We were talking about the other day. How many Christmas's do we have left? Yeah. You know, before the Jews take over and do a wave of Christmas. All right. I feel like I'm cutting you off short. We haven't talked about my favorite smells, tastes, touches. Yeah, yeah. We'll get to that. We'll do a wait. I'm starting to think that cover letter might have been a bit. No, this is the premise, but as I said, it's just a jumping off point to have a conversation. All these first test episodes that will never air. I had been with friends that I can easily have a conversation with that I enjoy talking

to because when I was approached about doing a podcast, they wanted a hook. And I said, I don't know, can I just talk to people? I'm good at that. I've been doing it pretty much for, you know, since I was three. And they said, no, it's good. You got to have a hook. And it took me about a month and a half, two months. I came up with this hook, but I said, as I said in the cover letter, this is if we don't get to it, we don't get to it. It's just let's have a conversation. We don't get to what that means, we've had a satisfying conversation. It's a good sign, if you don't get to it. It's a very good sign. And the hook is just for, just for clarification, you will, it like basically break glass moment, you will ask them, what's their favorite thing for a sense. Yeah, it's the loudest thing you've ever heard. What's the,

favorite thing for the loudest thing you've ever heard. What's the, the, and that sold to whoever was financing the podcast. You're like, I got it. It's a podcast. Nobody gives a fuck. Amen, right? I don't know. Does anybody have time to listen to a podcast?

I don't, I don't, I don't, I listen to the rabbit hole and I listen to cereal. Those are the only two podcasts. What the rabbit hole and I listened to cereal. Those are the only two podcasts. What's the rabbit hole? It was about going down, it was about the algorithm radicalizing people. Oh, really? It's great.

It's great. Now, where are you listening to this? On your long commute or when you're scouting your commute, when you're long and around? I don't know. When I'm on set, I have a teeny little earbuds. And when you're not doing your lines and the other person is doing their lines.

When I'm off camera, yeah, I'm listening to, I just cooking stuff, stews, and soups. Yeah. Now listen, I know you have, I know you have to get drinking. Charity. So for charity, yeah. Raising money for Hamas. Well, it's the day that they said.

You don't know. You raise the money and God bless them. Let's hope it goes somewhere good. It's less important what they spend it on. It's more important that we earn it and raise it. That's a good, that's a good slogan. Here's a question from Marlow, for Jason Bateman, do weeds provide air for you? I believe they do.

They're little tiny trees and trees provide air for us, right? So maybe the weeds are there to provide air for the smaller people, like Marlow, that's sweet, the angel. She's breathing, she's breathing weeds just like her daddy does. You know, he lights those up and he inhales them deep and then he sees pretty colors. I think one of my putting in the weed, that's making me see pretty colors. Well, we doesn't make you. Well, it depends. Well, if it's, if it's, if it's just hemp, probably not, but if, if it's the

weed, I think we're talking about, you can see some colors. Wow. I mean, it's 2023. I don't, you've sounded like a, sorry, whooch. I don't know whoo, hooch is booze, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo, whoo We did I think so. Yeah. I think we did. Is not how Paul then died? Is it really I think he did I think he I don't I don't know about that Can we we can probably but how do you die from Whip it's what does it do too many too much too much all at once But not over time right I don't think you can know I think it's it's gonna have to be one session Too many like one of the, like, too many canisters. Blue velvet masks. Yeah, I guess mask.

Jason, thank you so much for doing this. This is a pleasure and always good to see you and. My pleasure. I mean, I love that this is when, when, when can we enjoy this podcast? Probably not till January, I think we're, we're gonna bank a bunch. I've been still on tour.

I end the tour ends on uh, Saturday. Here must be here. No, it ends in, uh, no, I'm here in between. So I was gonna, I was in Boise two nights ago, uh, recorded the CD and then, uh, was gonna go to San Luis Episbo and by cancel that show. And now, just for your name. He could say, I don't like the Spanish.

No, I know. The words get fumbled in my mouth. And then he go to great Santa Cruz or St. Cruz. Why can't you say St. Cruz? That's the last show. St. Diego. What's the, it's America. And the last show is in Tucson on Saturday.

So I go Santa Cruz, Santa Fe and Tucson. And then I'm done. It's 74 shows total. And then I'm done. It's 74 shows total. And I go back home. I'll be doing more of these back in New York. I just started trying to, you know, on the days off. And then I'll really be able to bank a bunch of them. I go to London, I can do something in London.

And then I'll have a bunch ready to go. And then we can, and then I'll, you know, yeah. So probably January. Should we make this the first episode? For sure. That's probably really. More than Bob Odin Kirk. That's probably, no, fuck Bob. Really? Oh, Bob. I think I get a bump if this is the first episode. I think I get a bump if this is the first episode. Pretty sure it's on the back page, I think it's pretty good. All right, so we'll make Bob the first episode then. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Anyway, Jason, thank you. Give him a best of Bob. You haven't even taped that one and you're just assuming it's going to be better. We taped it. It was. Tip top. Pretty goal.

Did he give you longer than 60 minutes? Yes. Wow, he's not charitable Now he was playing he was playing cricket for himself he was raising money for himself Like playing cricket a big cricket fundraiser. Yeah, yeah, he just don't hear about him anymore. Yeah Yeah, for good reason nobody cares about it. Um here here. Yeah. Oh, India, Pakistan, Australia. But you recorded this episode in South Africa, right? Mm-hmm.

Yep. J. Berg. Have you ever been to Johansson? I haven't. It's, well, it's rough. It is far, it's far, it's far. For us, it's not far for them. They're around the corner.

But, oh man, it's a weird, it's a strange weird place man. It's weird. It's a different than Cape Town. I haven't been to Cape Town, but yes, it is different. I think it's, because that's where Soweto is. And it's like, I know we did this drive around, but it's, you know, and I went to the apartheid museum, which is brutal. And one's a tough, tough city and the other one that's majored.

Johannesburg's a one where you will see upper class and upper middle class, because there's no, there's no real sense of middle class there, but you'll see these nice houses, but not crazy mansions or whatever, with all just gated and armed guards. It's fucking nuts. It's war. Or war and... Yeah, yeah. For, you know, not like a big mansion, just it's interesting.

Nice people, nice people, but... I guess we do live in a nice place Well, we have money love it or leave it right There's a lot of not nice places though. I like to see you on speaker the house Okay, by the time this airs. We'll have a speaker. I doubt it. Yeah, somebody What a clown show man. It's crazy. It's been enjoyable if it wasn't so Breaking or breaking her full. Yeah, but in a Joe Burke No, it's no no Joe Hanna's bird. We don't

But we will become like Joe Hanna's bird. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I think we'll be calm by then. Yeah, yeah We'll still be around though. Yeah, well, that's on her then They're not coming with all right. Thank you so much. Love you, David. Since his working overtime is a head gum podcast created and hosted by me, David Cross. The show is edited by Katie Skelton and engineered by Nicole Lyons with supervising producer Emma Foley. Thanks to Deami Drucchin for our show art and Mark Rivers for our theme song. For more podcasts by HeadGum visit HeadGum.com or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts and maybe we'll read it on a future episode.

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