Senses Working Overtime with David Cross - Nick Thune

Episode Date: June 12, 2025

Nick Thune (Dave Made a Maze) joins David to talk about throwing the first pitch, getting sober, and more. Catch all new episodes every Thursday. Watch video episodes here.Guest: Nick ThuneSubscribe and Rate Senses Working Overtime on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave us a review to read on a future episode!Follow David on Instagram and Twitter.Follow the show:Instagram: @sensesworkingovertimepodTikTok: @swopodEditor: Kati SkeltonEngineer: Nicole LyonsExecutive Producer: Emma FoleyAdvertise on Senses Working Overtime via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. Alright, Nick, take your choice here. Sorry, you caught me a little unawares, but we're good to go now. Oh, let me put this on silent. Nicole, can I get a water? Yeah. Thank you. Oh, I have to pick out. Okay, let's see. Thank you. Oh, I have to pick up. Okay, let's see.

Let's bring that up here. How are you doing, man? I'm doing great, how about you? I'm all right, you know? I'd say day-to-day is- Touch and go? No, day-to- good. Overall, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Are you in New York? No. I mean right now, yeah. Right. For when people I wish. I wish I lived here. Watch on YouTube, then they'll know it's not a Will.I.Am situation. Thank you. Last night, I was dreaming of living in New York. and they'll know it's not a will I am situation. Thank you.

Last night, I was dreaming of living in New York. It was so, I did nine sets last night. Really? Jesus. My record's five. Really? Yeah, my personal record is five. It was all within the neighborhood. So it was like easy. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's one of the cute,

yeah, as long as you're not going uptown, but yeah, if you can stay 23rd and below, then yeah. This was a while ago before there were a lot of other downtown stuff. Before, yeah, there was a, I think the population was under a million when I was starting doing stand-up in New York, yeah. And most of that was Staten Island. Yeah. Yeah.

And they made it over. And what do you do? How did they get over from that island? Paddle, they were the first ones with a, I don't know what you call it, where you stand on the- Stand on the surfboard? Yeah, and then paddle. So yes, that originated in Staten Island. Get it, go, donate it to charity once you got to Manhattan or Brooklyn.

The surfboard? Yep. And then you'd have to work until you got money for another one to go back, vice versa. Same again, donate it to charity, work until you got another paddle. So it's pretty much all nonprofit? No, it was for profit. This was a really, really, really early Bill Gates thing. Really early. Like before Windows 95.

Way before. Yeah. This would have been like 1895, when that was a different thing. They had Windows 95, but it was not. Well, in 1895, it was about birds because the amount of birds that were- Crashing in the windows. Suicide. Yeah. Suicide. You think that's on accident, those birds? Oh, I never even thought of that. So you think

they're just despondent and- They had enough. Choosing, oh, wow. That didn't occur to me. So when a plane goes down because a bird gets caught in it, is that- That's a plane doing suicide. That's the plane doing a suicide. It's not murder suicide on the bird's. The plane sees the bird. Right. Diverts into the, yeah, it goes right into it. Oh man. There's so much depression and anxiety these days, you know, and it's just going to make it worse with planes deciding to commit suicide. Yeah. I would too with this atmosphere.

Yeah. With the stratosphere or the theosphere? Which atmosphere? Or our- I would go both. Both. Yeah. Because we're stratosphere, right? No, we're troposphere and that stratosphere is above us. And that's where planes go? Some planes, yeah. You yeah, if they're good.

If they're the good planes. They get to go to the stratosphere. Bad planes stay down. Stay down the troposphere. Yeah. It is hot in here. Am I correct, Nicole? Yeah, I got you.

I know it's relative, but how are you feeling comfort-wise? I could always be colder. Yeah, me too. Oh, hence New York. Where are you from? Seattle. Oh, right. I knew that. Can I jump in right quick and just fix this? I'm so sorry. Yeah, what's... Is it this? I think they were having an issue with that last week, that mic.

They're going to need to solder that. That might be the one Mark Norman farted into. They're going to need to solder that. That might be the one Mark Norman farted into. So that is why it hasn't been working that great since then. I wonder how many mics he's ruined or broken. Oh, I mean, it's got to be upwards of, you know, 100. I hope somebody's put together a highlight clip of him farting on mics. That would be good.

He didn't fart on the mic. He just farted on Mike. I have a memory of you farting in Seattle. Sure. I mean, that's my farting place. That bumper shoot, remember? No. That festival there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. But what was... We were on like a balcony above Pike Place Market somehow that we... Oh, Sarah Bennett's apartment. Yeah, yeah. Right on the greatest apartment ever. It was unreal.

Literally above the market, part of the market, because they have like 50 apartments scattered throughout the whole thing. And then access to the roof, which was the entirety of the market, Pike Place Market, and looking out over the sound, it's beautiful. And it was, yeah, and growing up there, I was like, how did this, you know? It's a very coveted apartment. And we were up there and it was, I mean, it was a, I think Zach was there. It was a very, to me, a very sophisticated-

Zach Brian. Zach Brian. Yeah. Very sophisticated, inner comedy, alt, like, you know, and there was even musicians there. And in the middle of kind of a very serious conversation, you go, actually, and then for it. Yeah. And I mean, I remember telling my family and, you know,

everybody I knew really about that for maybe a month or two. Was it a good Thanksgiving story? Yeah. Okay, good. Well, that's what it's for. Yeah. You know, and that Well, that's what it's for. Yeah. You know?

And that was, I peaked then and then I've gone downhill ever since. Yeah. You know why? No. I stopped fighting. How did you stop? I went to this dietician and he just, I went to this dietician, we, long story short, very long story short, we fell in love.

Stretch it out. And he gave me a butt plug and now I just burp. See, I am the op, I've never burped in my life. Really? Yeah, maybe like once before puking. Is that for real? Yeah. How, why, how is that possible?

I don't know, I don't know how to do to do it if you just like chugged a coke I would be very uncomfortable and then eventually it would probably find its way out so you have something wrong with you because burping is just a Function I think of getting the bloat out getting the gas out getting it I've been I mean you can get the gas out in other ways Yeah, but that's I mean, I think I have a problem letting go. I think that there's something, because when I do puke, it really is hard to.

Have you seen Frozen? No. You should see Frozen. That has a life lesson about letting go in it, yeah. I would love to see that movie. Yeah. Wait, I've seen Frozen. Oh, let it go.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a Josh Gad. It's about burping and farting and gas and internal combustion. That's a Josh Gad vehicle. It is a Josh Gad vehicle, yeah, and a tent pole, as it were, for the Josh Gad industries. And you have one kid? One. One.

One kid. And who's got to be older now? How old? One. One. One kid. And who's got to be older now? How old? Yes, 11. 11. But was there a frozen phase? There was a big cars phase.

In fact, I think I've seen, I love cars too. I mean, cars one's great, but cars two really has the kind of European element to it. I haven't seen either. But I just, I think because of timing, you know, but I'm a huge Pixar fan. So yeah. Well, wait, how old is your kid? Eight, just turned eight. Do you watch, do they watch movies?

It's her pronouns are she and her. Okay. See how I navigated that? Yeah, it was great. Yeah, she watches movies. Sallow, Showa, gosh, what else? The Painted Bird. Subtitle stuff. Human Centipede. I mean, tons of stuff. She's big into the human centipede musical. Yeah, that's and is that on Broadway or is that off?

It was off on Broadway, which is on Broadway, but never runs. Is the kind of technical definition. I just showed my son a movie that I think you're familiar with. Yeah, I know what it is. What? Oh, Pond for Red October. Seven. Seven. What did you show your son?

Chip. Chipmunks. Chipmunks, of course. That's what I was referring to. Loved it. Kids love it, man. It's a billion dollar franchise. But as an adult watching movies with kids, it was fun. I had that, it sounds like it's bullshit, but I did have that in mind, like knowing, all right, adults are gonna have to sit

and watch this thing over and over and over again. So I, you know, spiced it up a little bit with what I could for the moms and dads and grandparents and uncles and aunts and you know. It's always a pleasure when you're like, okay, let's watch a movie. Oh my God, yes, let's please watch this one. But he took to it. Oh yeah. All right, good. Yeah, he takes it all, you know, anything I show him really. He took to it. Oh, yeah. All right, good.

Yeah, he takes it all. You know, anything I show him, really. Because, you know, there's some movies my daughter just doesn't – I started showing her Hundreds of Beavers, which I thought she would love. Have you seen it? I've only seen the preview and I was going to try it. I'm planning on watching that. It's great.

I really enjoyed it. And I thought – I mean, that was just like, she's going to love this. And, you know, not that she didn't like it, but she got, I don't know, 10 minutes in and was just, because she watches these absurdist, crazy, very funny and clever cartoons. Like Bluey or something. She loves Bluey, but I'm not, Bluey's great. It's fucking awesome. But I'm not talking about that so much as like karate sheep. Have you seen that? Which I think is out of Quebec.

Um, there's a bunch of Korean stuff, Mr. Bread, uh, there's a Brown, what is it called? I, there's these very short, uh, short little things, you know, anywhere from like five to eight minutes, um, an episode, anywhere from like five to eight minutes an episode. And they're really funny and absurd and crazy. And so I thought she would like hundreds of beavers, but she didn't. She didn't like an art house film.

I guess that was part of it. She found it. Derivative. Cloying, pretentious, derivative. She said, and I quote, the, this is not auteur. Clearly these filmmakers have their heads up their own asses. And I'd like my money back. And I explained, well, you didn't pay any money. We're watching on TV. And she said, well, how do we get access to this? Surely somebody's getting paid. Everybody's got their hand out. This is America, god damn it. And I kind of explained cable.

I was like, yes, but I'm providing for the family. And so I've got the cable system. And she went into this whole fucking thing about Keynesian economics and all this shit. I mean, she should just take it to the comment section. You know, I mean, that's what I tell my son. It's like, sound off. Go and find whatever, a trailer, find anything where you can actually put your opinion on the bottom of this. I took him to a museum and he was wondering where the comment section was.

Did you take them to the comment section? Which museum? No, the- Holocaust museum? I have a lot of negative comments about the Holocaust Museum. It is a fucking bummer. Yeah. It is, what is the point? Can you write these down? That's the thing is you want to be able to write the, you know, be able to put it under

whatever you're looking at there, kind of like on YouTube where you can like scroll down- That's what I do. I write it on the wall and then with a Sharpie. This sucks. Yeah. And then I'll my my comment handle is Dr. Poopypants. And then I put that down. And I do it in a silver Sharpie. So mine's in sync Hathi 503. What is it in sync Hathi in sync Hathi 503?3. Is that like an area code? Yeah. Is it a Seattle area code? That's Portland.

Portland. Right. So you kind of just throws people off the track a little bit, but it also pays homage to your roots. Yeah. Yeah. The Northwest. Pacific Northwest.

Sorry. Yeah. Isn't it interesting how in Canada, they would call that the Southwest? I never even thought of that. Yeah. Yeah, because if you're in- Yellow knife, right? Yukon territories. Yeah, and if you're in Anaheim, LA is Northern California. Well, I wouldn't say that. Still Southern California. Okay. Yeah.

But North of Anaheim. But Southern California is also Southern California to Canada. Yeah. But they would just refer to Seattle or Vancouver Island or Vancouver, Washington, it's Southwest. And in Mexico, they say, do you know Spanish?

I know a ton. Okay. Wait, what is a ton in Spanish? I think that's it. Yeah. You gotta roll the N. Yeah. So it's, I can have a conversation

with somebody in Spanish, I wouldn't say fluent, but enough so that we could communicate. If, like if I go wanna get say a taco or a burrito or a chalupa or a taquito or a chimichanga or a fajita. Fajitas are an American invention just so we all are clear. They took the Spanish word fajita. Which means? Sizzle.

Sizzle. Yeah. Yeah, and so, and that's why Sizzler, the steak company went out of business because they were sued by fajitas. Yeah, there are some fajitas locations still down in, in Mexico. Fajitaritas?

Yeah. Yeah, all right. I like how you say Mexico. Yeah. Thank you. What's your favorite part of Mexico? I mean, I would honestly say the middle of it because you get – that's where you feel kind of entrenched in the whole Mexican thing. I've been in Mexico City. Love it. I've been north of that. Scary. I've been south of that. I feel it. I've been north of that scary. I've been south of that.

I feel lost. But Mexico City, which I think is kind of middle, feels like Spain in a lot of ways, which me being European in descent is nice. Where is your family from? Seattle. And then before that, Norway. There you go. That was the answer I was looking for. Just following the part of the conversation.

Yeah. No, I know, but I had to go back from the beginning into that. I also, don't you ever feel weird like saying, oh, I'm Norwegian. Oh, really? Well- I would feel very weird saying I'm Norwegian because I'm clearly not. No? There's nothing Norwegian about me. What are you? Finnish. Yeah. Oh, that's not far.

Not at all, but it's quite different. It's like, as you know, like Finland is different to Norway as, you know, Georgia is to Mississippi. Would they say that is Finland Scandinavian? Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Why not? That's nice. Let's do it. Yeah. I'm actually gonna be in Norway,

I'll be in Oslo in about a week. Oh wow. Believe it or not, a week and two days from this conversation right now. I don't know, by the time this goes out, I will have already come and gone. I hope I had a good time. I bet you did.

I like Oslo. Yeah. Have you been to Oslo? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I love Oslo and have you been to Bergen or whatever? Oslo is the only part of Norway I've been to. Are you going to perform there?

Yes. Yeah. Out on the street, of Norway I've been to. Are you going to perform there? Yes. Yeah. Out on the street, I do a little busking. I do a kind of what if scenario, what if the spin doctors were cast in Hamlet and it's just the spin doctors doing Hamlet? That's interesting. I mean, I could see how it works on the streets. Yeah. Yeah. It's cool. I mean, they, you know, most, I'd say most meeting more than half of the people,

especially in Oslo have a pretty good English, pretty good grasp of English. So yeah, it's fun. It relates. And then you get tourists who come in and kind of gather and what's going on? And then they'll throw in some euros and there you go. Do they do euros up there? Yeah. What did you think they did? I thought they did a different. I thought they did something. The Kroner. Yeah. No, it's not a Kroner. That's Sweden. Theirs is the Kron, I think. Is that right? Yeah, that's something, but I thought that they never submitted to the EU. You know what? I don't know. I've been speaking out of school.

I don't know. I'm sure they did. I'm sure they made up. I think it's Kron's. The Crohn, if I remember correctly. The rate is, I mean, it's- It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm paying for everybody's motherfucking health insurance there. Every time I step foot, I got to get a herring. I go to get a herring, right?

Yeah. You know, right? You go get a herring and then it's like, how much is this? And I'm paying for some motherfuckers' healthcare. What the fuck? It's disgusting. It's disgusting. What, how much is this? And I'm paying for some mother fuckers healthcare. What the fuck? It's disgusting. It's disgusting. Yeah. You know, treat me like that. I'm coming to your country

and now I gotta take care of your sick kid. Have you seen their hospitals? Ugh, no. I mean, either. Yeah, I wouldn't. Oh, you know what? Actually, even though we were just having a little bit of fun there,

we're speaking with Nick Thune, by the way. Nick Thune. Hello. I did have to go to the doctors when I was in Oslo, and I've had a couple of experiences with healthcare abroad. And this is one of them where I had what turned out to be lime. Lime – I have Lyme's disease. I had that.

Yeah. Well, you don't really ever get rid of it, unfortunately. Yeah, but I found it pretty quick, so I think that – So did I. I got really – I got lucky. I actually found it in Sweden and by the time I got to Oslo on this other tour, I was like, okay, I got to Oslo on this other tour, I was like, okay, I gotta take care of this because this is not good. And I'm, and you know, everybody has their own different reactions to it,

but fuck, it's a bummer, man. It's, you tell me yours in a second, but my, my everything ached, like I had been in a boxing match, like every fucking muscle is hard to walk. Everything ached and I got extremely irritable in a, in a way that had nothing to do with the achiness. It was like this, uh, exhausted, uh, really exhausted.

I couldn't walk. I'm just walking a block was so painful. Um, and I didn't know what was going on at first. I had no idea. And I got irritable first, which was, and I was with my wife and I'm like, what the fuck is going on? Cause I got way blown out of proportion, angry about her not wanting to bring the suitcase up to

the room or something where could I, could I take like just completely inappropriately like what the fuck? Why can room or something where could I take like just completely inappropriately like what the fuck? Why can't you take, you know, like just not acceptable, not like me to get all that upset about that. And then like later on, saw the bullseye and I had been upstate prior to that. I'd been upstate in the woods. Oh yeah, yeah. And- Where was the bullseye?

Like thigh, not thigh, what is this? Calf. Calf or thigh? No, thigh or calf, one of those. I had mine right there. And what were your symptoms? Mine saved my life. Similar to yours, I would like yours, I remember going down to get in my car and sitting down and I couldn't sit all of a sudden. My tailbone hurt so bad. So weird, man. Then I had to go lay down and then an hour, two hours later, I'd get up and sit down.

It's fine. Now my elbow hurts. It was just like this kind of, but I got it. My tic was up in my hairline and it's founded in Montreal, but I got it I think in Bloomington, Indiana. I went to go jump off that – you know the movie Breaking Away, you remember that? Yeah. Great. I love that movie. I did too. Yeah. I found that quarry and jumped off that rock into it. Oh, nice. Which it's now gone. They blew it up. They

got rid of it or something, I guess, because it was dangerous, but. Before you jumped? Yeah. Oh my gosh. So how did you? I was part of the wrecking crew, yeah. Oh my gosh. So what did-

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know, and I, whatever antibiotics and I, they weren't working because I was drinking a bottle and a half of vodka a day probably. And then on top of that, they got back my blood test and the doctor was like, Hey, I think you forgot to mention something. There's a bit of an enzyme problem in your liver right now, which was like that I went to rehab that day. Wow. Yeah. So, so, so I'm sorry, the chronology is you got Lyme disease, you went to get that checked out and antibiotics and whatever that stuff is for that.

While you're doing that, they're like, hey, you've got a severe drinking problem. Yeah, which I knew. I mean, I figured since I was drinking in my car on the way to the doctor's appointment. Nick, I had no idea. When was this? 10 in the morning. When was this? Six years ago.

I mean, I was sober six years. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was, you know, it was like a 10 year, I was sober when I was young and then I started drinking again. I thought I didn't really enjoy my thirties. And then gave it a good 10 year, 10 year crush. So in 10 years, you built up enough resistance

that you could drink a bottle and a half of vodka a day. That seems like an accelerated descent into alcoholism. Yeah, but when you're touring and you're going out- Dude, you don't have to tell me. I know, but- It's like I could just, I. Yeah. And and I wasn't just drinking like afternoon. I was drinking at two in the morning when I woke up to pee, I would take

like an equivalent to like five shots. So then Wow, Jesus. So you you recognize that that's an issue. That's a problem. That's not normal. The first time I looked myself in the mirror, like after I started drinking again, I was like, you're an idiot. You're an idiot. But enjoy it. Did you have that kind of personality where it's like you just dive in? I mean, to go from starting to drink to I'm going to have five shots at two in the morning when I get to pee before you go back to bed. Yeah. It's deep in me. It's just, I mean, just numbing and wanting to, you know. And where's your, not physically,

but where's your family in all of this while this is happening? Scared and watching. Yeah. Well, surely your wife? Ex-wife. Ex-wife. Understandable. Uh, your ex-wife must have said something to you.

Oh yeah, and everybody would. I mean, and there was big moments of like just really doing dumb shit, locking myself out of hotel rooms naked in some city and at a family member's wedding, like just peeing in elevators, you know, like the kind of stuff that I think cool people do sometimes. That's rock and roll, man. Yeah. Sammy Hagar would have done it. You know what Sammy Hagar used to do too?

What I used to do is have to put my bag in my hotel rooms up on the top shelf so I wouldn't pee on it. Because for some reason, I loved pissing on my bag in the middle of the night when I would wake up looking for the bathroom. As like a, you mean consciously aware that you're peeing on your bag? No, totally unaware.

But the unconscious me, the blackout me. Right, it was like, I'm gonna get back at me for doing this to me. Yeah, I'm gonna make going home very weird. Dumbass. Wow. So I started putting everything up high in the room because I'm like, I just don't wanna pee on this stuff.

I know it's gonna happen. And how are your shows when you're this? They were just getting progressively harder and worse. I mean, there's- Were you sloppy? Were you- Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I was getting through it and doing, I was doing okay. And you're doing an hour at this point, right. I mean, I was getting through it and doing, you know, I was doing okay. And you're doing an hour at this point, right?

Oh, yeah. I was on the road like full on. Yeah. And the, if I ever see a clip or a picture from when it got really, really bad, it's tough. It's like, oh, God, that slow talking kind of like, and I know that in somewhere in me, I think I'm being like very thoughtful on stage when really I'm just trying to keep it together. Yeah. You know, because you never really feel great. It's always you're always in the midst of either coming down or too much. There's never like a, Hey, yeah, this is good. Unless you do coke, then it's all good.

Right. That's what coke, that's really the only reason coke should exist is to even you out. From alcohol, yeah. From a downer. That's why they want it. Yeah. And so, after you got sober, did you try to reach back with your ex-wife? Did you try to say, I'm better? Was that a thing that you wanted to do? No, I mean, that happened, we got divorced after I got sober. Oh. Yeah.

Wow, you must be a real piece of work. No, I mean, it was coming. It was just like, it was a thing that was happening and it was already in the works. Was the beginning of sobriety difficult? No, because I wanted it so bad because I did want to live. And it wasn't like I just got sober and it was fine. Two days into rehab, I was taken to the hospital because of delirium tremors and like seizureing.

And I was- Oh, right. Sorry, for a second, I was thinking you kind of on your own just went, I'm going to do this and then – but you checked yourself in rehab, which ensures that you're not – Medically going to take me down, yeah. Yeah. You're not going to have any access to that. But benzos and alcohol and all that stuff is just like – you can't just stop taking

that if you're doing it at that level. But yeah, it was – I just want – and your dad – my dad, like my son's five and people were telling me like, my dad was an alcoholic, but he quit before I was five and I never remember him drinking. So I thought, well, this is a good opportunity for that. Yeah. Was there, were there any, not red flags, but anything you, any behavior that you did with your son or around your son that was dangerous? No.

Luckily, I mean, just being drunk around anybody is dangerous. I guess I was thinking more in terms of like Michael Jackson hanging the baby over the balcony moment. Yes. Yeah, yeah. That as a joke, obviously, was fun. But no, it was definitely like a thing that I was just on my own doing.

I was living my own life, kind of apart from everybody else. Right. Well, I mean, that's one of the multiple negative aspects of being on the road, and that feeling of those hotels can be so depressing. And have you ever gone to the wrong hotel room, the wrong hotel room because it was the one you were in last night? Yeah. Yeah. I've done that where my card's not working. God damn it. I'm going to have to go back to reception. The card's not working, you know, and da-da-da-da-da. And then you're like, oh, wait, oh, that was last night. Well, you know, 420 was last night's room.

I'm in 1601 now and whatever. Okay. It's like, yeah, this trip I had to write on some piece of paper. I was like, 919. Okay, good. Remember that. Because it is. It is.

Like, how are we retaining all these numbers? I bring the little packet that comes in with me or I tear off the number because I will forget because you're just constantly in a different and they look the same. They're very, very similar and there's a handful of types. There's the kind of faux boutique one, right? Like, and I'm not saying anything negative about these chains. They just, there's the Kimpton-ish one. Oh yeah, those ones are great. And then there's the, you know, the residence in type of one.

And all the carpeting is the same as the other ones. And all the, and then there is the- There's the need your key in the elevator ones. Yep. And there's the the ones that are like the second generation of the boutique, artsy hotels, but they're more foe and like it's one that's themed like a library. This one's like a children's playground. I know exactly.

They have those in like, yeah, you walk in and you think like, it's all artsy in the, yeah. And there's like a chess, you know, 19 chess boards and whatever the fucking shit is. And, you know, each, when you get out of the elevator, this one, this floor is, you know, each when you get out of the elevator, this one, this floor is, you know, R&B themed and this one is space themed. That's the Curtis and –

Curtis! I fucking hate those hotels. Yeah. And I have a little note, please, to the woman who books that stuff for the tour, like, please know Curtis Hotels. That I don't, I just just don't they're too cute. They're there and they even I remember the last time I stayed at one in Denver and they like that's the one they say some but there are other Curtis hotels.

Yes, but that's the one I know the best. I mean, that's the one where I was like, I'm not going can't do this anymore. And they say something there's like us in the elevator. They say things that are like, they have- Oh. Like greetings or whatever the fuck it is, that's just like, stop, I just- I just remember like getting in the elevator, it goes, welcome. Over and over again.

Nick. I have something unique- Tohoon. I have something unique at this hotel where you put your key on the thing and the door just, you just push it open, there's no knob, I'd never had that before. Oh, I haven't experienced that. Was that the case? No, no, this is here in New York.

Oh, okay. Yeah. But it's, yeah, you do that and it just clicks and you just push it. Because you know that like dance of like doing that and then trying to get the thing and sometimes you miss it. I mean, pros like us even miss it every now and again. Every once in a while. It doesn't matter how long you've been on the road. No. It still happens. Yeah, the, you know what chain I do like that is cutesy is the graduate chain. That's the one that I did in Nebraska. I've stayed at one there. Yeah. And that is you get in your

room and you're like, oh, this is kind of cool. Yeah, It's not over the top. I think there's one in Nashville too, that I stayed at that was like, my room was like Dolly Parton themed room. But have you ever stayed at the Madonna Inn up in- I haven't, but I know of it. And there's a place in somewhere in the middle of nowhere, upstate New York, that is, and they say as much, they were inspired by the Madonna Inn. So it's their version. I stayed in the bewitched room, the Samantha from bewitched room. And she's in there. She's in there. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, the, the actress Elizabeth Montgomery. Yeah. Yeah. Is in there. It's pretty cool. She must be really older now. Yeah. But, um, and you know, the first thing out of your mouth is like, oh my God, I'm such a big fan. When I was a

kid and then you insult her because when I was a kid and she's like, how old are you? And I'm like, 60. And I'm still a kid at heart. Yeah. So it's weird. That, yeah, you throw that in her face. Yeah. Yeah. But outside of that, it was interesting. I didn't care for it. But yeah. I've stayed in a few rooms up at the Madonna Inn. There's the rock room where it's like the walls are, it's yeah. But in the end, I do like hotels. I like the process. I kind of enjoy aspects of that. Like I've gotten over kind of all the annoyances? I don't, I really don't care for it.

When I go to LA, if I'm in any place for, you know, more than a day, two days, then I'll get a Airbnb, which is always a crap shoot. Yeah, it really is. But when I go to LA to do like this podcast, or if I'm working or something, I go, I just get an Airbnb like within a mile of the studio and just walk and settle in because I being in a hotel,

the same hotel room for more than three days is I just don't like it. It bumps me out. I mean, do you unpack? It sucks your energy. No. I do not unpack. I unpack if I'm coming for a night. I get in the room, immediately hangers, clothes on hangers in the closet. I love it. Well, that way you're not pissing on them.

Yeah. Like, good luck reaching this shirt. That's true, yeah, for old times sake. Yeah. Do you ever bring your luggage with you and go, would you, this is gonna sound weird, but would you piss on this? I just, it's a thing, yeah.

Trying to recall some memories. I have a dark hotel memory that I know I was drunk, but I know it happened and I can't really remember what city, but one night in the middle of the night, I woke up and there's a security guard standing at the edge of my bed. Whoa. And I was like, what the fuck?

And he's like, sorry, your door wasn't closed all the way. We were just checking on you. And he like left and I was just sitting there like, what? Well, why did he just leave and close the door? Why was he sitting at the foot of your bed? Like the angel Moroni. I know.

That's how Mormonism started. Was it really? Maybe you are her prophet. You're the next Joseph Smith. Oh, and he was in there praising me. Well, Moroni came. He had to come. It's great. If you read even just the cursory little bit of the history of Joseph Smith and Mormonism and what they put out there, not even the real stuff, but even what they put out there, it's just so bizarre and funny. It's like truly funny. Like Moroni came and he was an angel and he kind of visited and Jacqueline Novak and I were talking about

how they always hover at the foot of the bed. That's their place. Oh. You know, just like three inches. Was she Mormon? No, but just three inches above the floor, you know, because it's cold. It's too cold for them and they're sockless. And they got to add something kind of supernatural about it, right? Yeah, not just the fact that they're an apparition, you know, but with the larynx and, you know, vocal cords and all that kind of stuff.

And the underwear. And well, that's just more regular Mormonism. The underwear was a gift from God. It was supposed to be in a stocking, like stocking stuffer type thing, but it got misplaced and they thought it was like real legit present. Seriously? Yeah, yeah. It was buried. The underwear was buried with the gold plates in Elmira, New York, under a tree.

And then, you know, but Morona had to come like three times to Joseph. This is all in air quotes, of course. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it took three times for him to- Figure it out? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, the underwear, I just saw some BYU Instagram video of somebody walking around like, would you ever not, for one whole day, not wear your underwear just to all the girls? And they're like, no. It was just like, are you kidding me? No, I actually like it. I don't blame them. I mean, in their world, it's sacred. But how could you like it? I mean like it. I don't blame them. I mean, in their world, it's sacred.

But how could you like it? How could it, I mean, yeah. Well, because you're told to like it and you're brought up knowing. I mean, if you really went on vacation with one of these girls, got to know her really well, you guys were hanging out at the end of the pier, it's midnight, maybe just beautiful starry sky and the full moon,

so the moon is lighting the clouds in these various shades of gray and gets us. It's reflecting off the water probably. Yeah, yeah, yeah and the stars are twinkling. It's just a beautiful night, it's like 75 degrees and there's night blooming jasmine. Fahrenheit I hope. And eucalyptus is all flowing.

You can smell it and it's just mixed with a little bit of the brine of the sea. Again, you're hanging off, the legs are hanging off the dock and you're drinking drink and maybe they've- Milk probably or what do you think? No, I'm not Mormon. In that situation. Yeah, I'm not Mormon. So I... Oh, in this situation? Yeah. I've got a hazy IPA, some sort of... Yeah. And maybe they've got a tea, and then she kind of lets her guard down and says, yeah, I'm not that crazy about wearing the underwear.

That's when you get it. Yeah. You're not going to get that on a TikTok. You're not going to get that on a guy in the street. Hey, we're asking a bunch of, you know. Yeah. Oh, around campus even. Yeah. Yeah. That's a nice little picture that I've got in my head now of you and that woman. Yeah, she's awesome. Yeah. And, you know, we're just friends. This is just a platonic. I love that she's opening up to you though. And I think that's probably how they start to branch out.

Yeah. What was I gonna say? I like Salt Lake City though. Yeah, it's a great city. It's a really cool. When you get there and you just see the surrounding mountains and it's- Yeah, first of all, it's beautiful.

It's very clean. But outside of the kind of obvious dumb Mormon things, you know, like the small beers and that kind of weird shit, it's a really nice city. I like it. The 0.2 alcohol percent beer and yeah. But there are also, there are more and more places now that are just kind of regular for, you know, non-Mormons can go to and enjoy regular- Provo, have you been to Provo out there?

I haven't, no. I mean, I lived out there for like a month once and it was just, I loved it. Are you sure you weren't just in an alcohol-induced kind of- It's hard to tell. Yeah. Could have been a day. Felt like a month? The people are so nice. I mean, that's the thing is they have to be. You know, you kind of can use that against them in a way. They're ministering to you. Well, and you know, I would like to kind of explore making Utah our 51st state. Yeah, that'd be great to kind of take it out and put it on the top.

Yeah, give it to Canada as incentive to be our 51st state. Boy, they- Did you see that fight, that hockey fight? No. The US versus Canada? Oh, was it part of the Four Nations thing? Yeah, it was just within nine seconds of the game, there were three fights happening because they booed the national anthem. Yeah. Well, that's understandable. No, I was just there. I'm going there tomorrow. I go to Winnipeg tomorrow.

Oh, I love it's going to be freezing there. Fucking 16 degrees right now. Yeah. God damn it. I just can't. I had four days in Atlanta that was like, oh, this is nice. Yeah, I can do this. And then, yeah, 16 degrees. I'm going, and it just gets worse until I get to Vancouver. I mean, not worse, but colder. You're doing stand up through the? Yeah, I go Winnipeg, Edmonton, Calgary, or Calgary, Edmonton, I can't remember, and

then Vancouver. And then I come home for two and a half days and then go to fucking Europe for a month. Not fucking Europe, I'm looking forward to it. I just haven't been home much. That's all. Yeah. I'll be in Oslo. It's my first show. That's a great place to start. Is it?

It is, yeah. Okay. It's nice because they speak English so well. I mean, all the places I'm going have, yeah, you know, enough for me to sell tickets, you know, but they just love America. They're just so kind of well, let's give that a minute. Let's give that American art like they love television and movies. So they speak it so, you know, they learn so young. Right. Yeah. I mean, well, it's, what I was gonna say was the

feeling in Canada of this kind of feeling of betrayal in a sense, and they still want, it's like being broken up with, you know, where you wanna be friends, but your, your head is telling you, wait, I can't be friends with you. And you're terrible, you know, not you or me, or, or they understand there's, there are people who, uh, don't condone this at all.

But the idea of like your, your guy just shit all over Canada, multiple, you know, like almost daily in like real specific ways. For no reason. I mean, there's not a real reason for a lot of the stuff, you know, outside of like, you know, kind of petty vindictive shit or this, you know, trying to enjoyingly being the, you know, bullying the schoolyard kind of guy, give me your lunch money. But yeah, I mean, they're, they're bummed, you know, and there, there was a wherever I was, something like Toronto or something, but there was a thing where they had done this poll

with 1200 Canadians and 10% of the people who responded to the poll wanted, liked the idea of being folded into the United States and becoming part of the United States. And what I would mention that, cause it was in the news and stuff, people would go fucking nuts, you know, like booing and yelling and understandably. I was in Ottawa and Montreal and London, Ontario and each place aggressively.

I bet especially Montreal. Fuck that. I feel like apologizing to people, you know? It's weird going through customs because it's like you look at them and you're like, hey, I know what my, our guy did, so sorry. Can I come in? Also, it's so telling about both countries and culturally that Canada has a reputation, deservedly so, for being polite and being nice and being concerned with people and just being

polite, like the way you you pleasant, the way you would want people to respond in various situations. And Americans make fun of that. Like get big laughs for making fun of not just pointing it out, but making fun of them for being nice, pleasant people and polite. That's crazy. Well, it's also kind of funny because in a lot of ways, it's making fun of us for being just really not nice, not pleasant. We're saying, yeah, it's better if you're just kind of standoffish and angry. Yeah.

Well, I don't think people are owning themselves, you know, knowingly. I think they're just, I mean, that is the result. Yes, it's like you look like an asshole now and all the people that are laughing at you for making fun of people for being nice. But that is kind of where we find ourselves socially and civically and have been for 10 years now where the whole thing of I'm drinking a cup of liberal tears, you know, like I'm going to give you shit and my buddies are going to high five me for caring about that person. Yeah.

I mean, that's so that has, you know, culturally taken over. And, and you get, you know, you get bonus points for making fun of people who care about other people, whatever that group of people may be. It's, it's great, though, because going there, going to like Winnipeg and London and those places, they, they get really excited that people come because- Well, they should if you've been to Winnipeg and Edmonton. They should be thrilled. Yeah. Yeah. There's some places I go.

If you go to, I don't know, Spokane and you're like, you're welcome. It was not easy. It wasn't. It wasn't. I'm in one of those shit hotels. Yeah. I had to take a commuter flight at 8 a.m., make a connection, and here I am. Yeah. I mean, I've only been to Winnipeg and Edmonton once, I believe, or maybe twice. But yeah.

I remember the bus. I did a festival there in Winnipeg. Oh, they have a comedy festival? But yeah, I remember the bus. They have a festival there in Winnipeg. Oh, they have a comedy festival? It's like a arts festival. And it's great because the city pays for it. It's part of their budget. It's very Canadian.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like in college, you pay these funds, and part of that goes to your student activities fund. And then they bring in, you know, Jimmy JJ Walker. Down in light. What was I gonna say about Winnipeg?

Oh, you know who lives in Winnipeg? No, you don't, so I'll tell you. Guy Madden, one of my favorite filmmakers whose film, they've made films about Winnipeg, in odes to Winnipeg, just still there. Is he gonna go to your show, do you think? I don't know, he went to my last one, then we hung out at this bar afterwards.

Super cool guy, just not anybody, not like kind of a lynching looking guy, you know, where you'd be like, oh, he's clearly a filmmaker. Yeah, super cool guy. And I love his movies. How do you deal with meeting somebody that you admire? Like Well, I fart. I think we've established that. You know who was there was Ben Givard.

Oh, yeah. Ben Givard was on the ceiling when you were on the roof. On the ceiling? Wow. He was laughing on the ceiling. On the ceiling. Yeah. Oh, you know what?

One of Ben's bandmates did the sound for the tour. What became Shut Up You Fucking Baby. So I think. Oh, and we were both on Sub Pop. the sound for the tour, what became, Shut Up You Fucking Baby. So I think, oh, and we were both on Sub Pop. So I think that's how I knew Ben and that whole group of folks. And was Swartz in there? I don't think he, I don't know, maybe. I think Aziz was, I think it was like a year, you were wearing a dress at some point. I think Aziz was.

I think it was like a year. You were wearing a dress at some point, I think at a bar. Oh my God. I know exactly what that is. Yeah. That was, I swapped clothes with, I think Mary Lynn Rice Cub. I thought it was your girlfriend. Oh, my girlfriend.

Okay. So Sarah, girlfriend at the time. Yeah. So that would have been, yeah, that would have been like. There's like some bar in Capitol Hill. Yeah, and. You just came out of the bathroom in the dress. I wore Sarah's dress.

And it was, I have a picture somewhere deep, deep, deep of you dancing in that dress somewhere. Well, I remember, there's two things I remember from that night. And you know, it was a big drinking, fun, crazy night. But there was a, at that bar, there was a guy who introduced himself. If you do this with Schwartz and Schwartz, and it's like a little inside joke, but he goes,

we're talking and he goes, I'm going to have to explain what I'm doing for if you're listening, but he goes, oh yeah, man, sick, dude. Well, I'm a DJ, whoop, whoop. And he did the scratching a record movement and went, whoop, whoop. And it was one of the dumbest, weirdest thing. Yo, yo, man. Oh yeah, man, nice to meet you. I'm a DJ, whoop, whoop. That became a running joke with Swartz and I.

But, and then another crazy thing. So I'm sitting at a table and this guy, complete stranger, comes up to me and he goes, hey, you ever seen a lion throwing up blood? I'm like, what? I'm looking over my shoulder, what? You ever see a lion throwing up blood? No, you will.

And then he leaves. Then he comes back like 10 minutes later and it's an artist named Kevin Willis and he, we have mutual friend, I think he's friends with Maynard James Keenan-Tool and he brings me a t-shirt which I still have, I can't fit into it anymore but it's a, it's a, like a painting of a lion throwing up blood. What a night. Well, there's that story. Yeah. Yeah, so got a wore a dress.

And you farted on the, yeah, farted on the ceiling. The ceiling. It's somebody's ceiling. It's a roof. Yeah. But also the floor is the- It's the inside out part of a ceiling. Yeah. Yeah. That's what that movie was about, Inside Out. Two, not the first one. I don't think I've seen the Inside Out movies.

I have not seen them either, but I heard they're good. And again, big Pixar fan, so I'll go see it. I met an athlete recently and I just totally froze and feel like meeting an athlete is kind of a – I love baseball. Oh, yeah. That's different. Yes. Yeah.

Who was it? Clayton Kershaw. Oh, wow. What was that like? Ridiculous. Yeah. And I got a picture with him. He saw me perform. It was pretty cool. I actually had season tickets to the Dodgers, so I'm pretty obsessed with baseball in general. But he came back. He was kind of in the news at the time because it was pretty recently, his contract hadn't been renewed. He's a lock for the hall of fame, Cy Youngwinder. Well, his contract hadn't been done yet. And so he gave us some inside info. He was like, yeah, about to tie up the contract and I'm coming back from surgery. So

it should be a month or two, but I'll be good. God, that's great. surgery. So it should be a month or two, but I'll be good. God, that's great. Yeah. That is the thing that will make me get nervous and stuff. A birthday present from last year was my sister, who's the mayor of Atlanta. She knows her and her wife know everybody, right? And everybody knows her. And she knows this guy who was, is like best friends with Chipper Jones, who's one of my baseball heroes.

Oh yeah. And he was like his roommate in college, and they're still good friends. And he's like,, yeah, tell your brother to come to this thing and I'll get you set up and da-da-da. My wife and my sister and my mom go to the new park for Braves game. I got to meet Chipper, but not just meet him. We hung out for over an hour and he was telling me these great stories and it's awesome. He's great and he's telling me these stories about, I was like, what about the home run off of Pedro? And he's telling me these stories about, I was like, what about the home run off of Pedro?

And he's telling me these stories about how pitchers sometimes tip their pitches without them, without being aware of it. And I asked him like, who are the hardest guys you didn't want to meet? And just fucking in over an hour of just- Did you say Randy Johnson? Yeah, that was one of them. Randy Johnson, Clemens. Maddox probably. Well, he didn't have to face Maddox. Oh, that. Oh, he was that. Yeah, he said Randy Johnson. I think it was Pedro, Randy Johnson, and Clemens were the ones that gave him the most difficult.

I just saw some video pop up in my feed recently that was like, here's Randy Johnson tipping his pitches. I'm like, I'm like 90s tipping his pitches. But I saw Randy Johnson when the fires hit LA, he was right in the middle of the whole thing. He was- He started them, right? That's the rumor. He did start the fires.

Yeah. But I was down in Newport Beach for a day or two trying to get away from the smoke and he just rode, was riding a bike up and I go, Randy. Yeah. And he just kind of, he looked at me as if he wasn't Randy, you know? But I know Randy Johnson when I see Randy Johnson. Sure, the big unit. Oh.

I think one of the worst nicknames in sports ever for any sport. Any sport, the big unit. I think one of the worst nicknames in sports ever for any sport. Any sport, the big unit is literally the worst. When I was a kid from Seattle though, it seemed cool. But it's weird to have a guy named the big unit and then a guy named the kid on the same team. Yeah, but the kid was a kid. The big unit is like a euphemism for a dick. Yeah. So that's inappropriate. Yeah. Not he has a big unit, but he's a big unit.

I bet he used that though. I bet he said, well, it's technically about my penis. Yeah. And then I like the kind of like, you know, just to be truth be told. Yeah. I have a, you know, just to be truth be told. Yeah. I have a, you know, it's about my large penis.

It's not, you know, don't quote me on it, but yeah. A bit of an eye roll, G-shucks kind of thing. What is the guy? He's what is he? He's like 7'1 or something like that. So huge. He's huge. And just mean looking.

Yeah. Oh, he looks like the most redneck guy to kick your ass. Yeah. For me, growing up in Georgia, he looks like one of those dudes who hang out smoking Columbia Gold. It would just be the rumor would be like, hey man, you know Randy went to jail. Yeah. Don't mess with him, man.

Cause he went to jail and he knows a bunch of people in jail. If he makes one phone call, that fucking kick your ass, man. They'll break out of jail and come find you. They'll break out of jail and come find you. The worst thing in the world being he hates 14 year olds. Riding their huffy bike. The name Randy in its own, what a great,

the guy was set up for success from the beginning. That video of him killing the bird. Oh yeah. It's just so funny. It's crazy. How does that not, people aren't killing birds anymore. The bird had it coming. Yeah.

That might've been a bird suicide. Oh, he went into, I gotta say, that's a good eye on that bird to be able to track that. Well, you know, that's what they call an eagle eye. Oh, right. That was an eagle. I don't know if it was an eagle. Could have been a baby eagle.

It was pretty small. Okay. But painted to look like a seagull. Yeah. Yeah. He was mostly, he didn't have, his arsenal was, it was a fastball and then he had only. Like a split finger. Yeah, he only had like two pitches, right?

Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. I wonder if you had a change up. I love watching pitchers now, like with the way the strike zones are and how they can really show you a pitcher throwing two different pitches that look like the same pitch from the beginning.

Oh, I love that. And then it goes, you know, like. The pitch comes out of the hand. Yeah. And at the first third, it's the same. The pitch that they just got that was up high and then all of a sudden it just boom. Yeah, some of the slurve, the new,

that's a new, that's like a slider and a curve. Mm-hmm. Like these, I don't know how they're doing it. It's crazy. And I don't know how you fucking hit that. How do you hit that? And I'm not talking about like home run power thing. How do you, like Arias, how does he make contact and not dribble a ball down or pop it up. But he, like, how do you, the hitting, to be able to spray hit and those kinds of balls, where you, like you said, it just came out this way

and was a straight fast ball. And then the next thing- It's 30 miles an hour slower and it's gonna cut, right? And it's gonna cut, yeah, right, you know, just drop down the last five feet. It's so fun. I mean, that's why I love it. My seats at Dodger Stadium are right, you know, just drop down the last five feet. It's so fun. I mean, that's why I love it. My seats at Dodger Stadium are right behind home plate,

but they're like up kind of high, but you can really see the pitches. I love seeing games at Dodger Stadium. That's, I'd say, you know, Fenway and Wrigley are like top tier, and then next level is Dodger Stadium, and just a handful of great parks. But I love going to a game at Dodger Stadium. Pretty sure I went to Wrigley Field with you and Bob.

Really? Oh, when we did a- And George Lopez like through the first pitch or something and we got to go on the field. Wait, I don't remember this. Wait. When we were doing like, we were doing a place called the, I was opening for you guys at this is vaguely

familiar we were doing a I think honestly it might have been me and Malaney opening for you guys like it was a theater that doesn't exist anymore. We did like a Mr. Show thing. Yeah. Yeah. What was that? That was was there a sketch about like a where they had LGBTQ and they're rolling way too many letters and they had to make the sign? Yeah. Yeah, I vaguely remember that. Was that the with the

big heads? Yes. Okay. okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I do remember that. Okay, so we went to Wrigley Field. Yeah. It was so fun. It was like the perfect day. I mean, I- It's such a great part.

What a memory. I was like such a young comedian, just like, what am I doing here? Oh, that's great. David, yeah. I sang the, Take Me Out to the Ball Game. I have it on a DVD they gave me, and I didn't watch it for a couple of years

because it was so, it ended up not being as bad as I thought it was gonna be, but I started way high. And- That's a happy birthday problem. And the guy was interviewing me. I was so fucking nervous. I rarely get nervous.

No, he looked at me and he's like, I start singing and his eye, like I know this guy and his eyebrows raise and he's got that guy and like, are you really going to do that? And cause he knew what was coming a second or two before I did. And when you get hit that high part, then apparently it's happening before. But and I remember seeing on on Twitter, it was like David Cross screeches out the heat, take me out of the ballgame. And I never corrected it. And I just started and I tried to make it.

But it was like I was lost immediately. And I was so fucking nervous. And I mean, obviously it turned out OK. It's just a guy singing, you know, take me out the ballgame. But then when I went back to my seat, everybody in the stands were kind of like giving me, you know, nice shit, but giving me shit. Wait, what field? Wrigley.

That was at Wrigley. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, but what an honor, what a cool thing. Is that your team? No, Braves. You walked in with a Guardians hat on. Yeah, that's cause I was doing a show in Cleveland and they, it was to throw out the first pitch and they gave me a

Well, it got rained out, but they brought me out on the field anyway, and they gave me a tour and all that stuff They gave me a shirt with my name on it, you know I threw out the first pitch for the Mariners. That was been nice full uniform Really? Yeah, did you ask for that or is that a standard? I did. Well, they said, they said, we can give you a jersey. Yeah. And I jokingly tweeted the day before like, hey, sorry to announce that I'm actually not going to be throwing the first pitch because they're not giving me a full uniform. Joking, thinking that nobody from the Mariners would see that.

Right. And then they just responded, all right, fine. And so you had a full uniform. That's great. With running shoes on. And I had a shoe in my back pocket and they brought out the backup catcher. And I threw a slider. I threw what I thought was a good,

like a good swinging strike for a- Was it a good pitch? Yeah. Did you practice at all? Oh yeah. Yeah. With Brody. Oh, nice.

Yeah, Brody and I went to the park. Oh, of course, Brody played single, single, single, single A. Yeah. I mean, it was like playing catch with just him and I in a park. He's talking to me about pitching. But yeah. And then I ran up to hug the catcher like as if it was we won or something. And I caught his chin on my shoulder and you can watch the video and it's like, he does this thing and he just got brought up from the minor. Like it was like, they're like, hey, yeah, new guy, you got to go catch the first bitch and this idiot. Yeah. And now he's going to put you in physical problems. His neck was all screwed up.

Who was the backup catcher? I don't remember. That's rude. I know. You shared this moment. I have a video. There's a 30 for 30 about it. That'd be great. The Nick Thune problem. Yeah, trust me, he remembers your name. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he, I mean, there's no way he's playing anymore. Baseball is such a hard, being a catcher.

Well, how old was he? When was this? This was eight years ago. He might be playing. Maybe, but I mean, did you- The catcher can, you know, there are guys in their 40s. Their knees though, it's like a- Yeah, but they have that special pad thing now

that they didn't have back then. That they put behind their knee? Yeah, those like triangle pad things. Oh, they do? Yeah. I didn't even know that. Yeah, well, how old is Perez? He's like 40 plus, right?

Yeah. Well, and what's his name just went forever. The... Molina? Yeah. Went 41, what's his name just went forever. The- Molina? Yeah. Went 41. Yeah. So, you know.

He was good. He was great. He was still throwing people out. To see a catcher that can really catch a steal, like somebody stealing. And he was one of those catchers that you can look at, watch him play, and realize how smart he is. Yeah. Like that guy is brilliant.

They're orchestrating so much. You could see it with Yadier Molina. You could just watch him control the game, manage, not manage it, but the field and all that stuff. Yeah, he's one of the greats. Will Smith is fun. He's a fun catcher to have. I disagree. You don't like him? Yeah, he's one of the greats. Will Smith is fun. He's a fun catcher to have. I disagree. You don't like him? I love him.

And maybe that's part of the problem is I have a love for him physical. Yeah. And I can't get past that. What if he was on the Braves, would you be? Fuck yeah, dude. Are you kidding? I like Marcel Azuna,

domestic violence guy. That's how you have to, yeah. Fuck yeah, man. Got a great DH. Had a couple of problems with that on the Dodgers. We had, what's the pitcher that we- Oh, Jesus, Trevor Bauer. Trevor Bauer. What a douche. Not even him though, the other pitcher, Urias. Oh, yeah.

At the Beverly Center, Urias. Oh yeah. Who at the Beverly Center lost it. And dude, they, who's he at, Sephora? Yeah. Yeah. They took his mural off like the next day. Yeah. Like he had that big fucking mural with his sunglasses and all that. It's crazy that like a guy like, I mean,

Trevor Bauer is still a great like a guy like, I mean, Trevor Bauer is still a great pitcher. And you see, I don't know if he ever watches YouTube. It's like, and he basically got exon. He's in Japan now, right? Yeah. Or some, yeah. When he got exonerated in some way,

where like even the person that said something that people don't like him that much. There were a couple women. Oh, there were, I know there was a couple. I just know that one of them turned out to be whatever. But I, that, that, he was disliked that much. I just know that one of them turned out to be whatever, but I, that, that, uh, he was disliked that much by major league baseball that none of the teams were like, yeah, we're still not going to bring this guy on.

Yeah, I mean, uh, well, he's very, um, you know, uh, button pushing. Oh yeah, the sword and the, you know, just the dumbest stuff. Yeah. But he's like trying to push your buttons, you know, and maybe that's part of a one aspect of a pitcher's mentality, you know. Did you go to the World Series? Yep. I have been lucky enough, I've seen a lot of losses, because I'm Braves Red Sox,

but I also got to see the Braves win in 95 at the last game at the Atlanta Fulton County Stadium. I took my sister and that was really exciting. And then for a really cool surprise present, my wife took me to the Red Sox game where they won the World Series for the first time in Fenway. Oh my God. Yeah. And I remember Shane Victorino hitting a triple and going to take a piss and everyone in there was kind of like, usually people don't get too optimistic too early. But having that feeling is I'm taking a piss next to this guy, in the old school troughs,

and we were all like, it's going to happen, man. It's going to happen. When he hit that triple, it was like, I think they got this. What a feeling too to be. I was at that whole night was fun, I mean. I was at game seven when the Astros beat the Dodgers the year they cheated.

Yeah, yeah. That was so brutal. But I was gonna go to game six with the Dodgers, but the Yankees didn't, you know, mess up. But the- Oh man, that fifth inning was, we were, I was sitting at a bar in like one of my neighborhood bars with Yankees fans.

And I love to give Yankees fan shit. And it's a it's a friendly bar. You know, it's all cool. But that fifth inning was like, what the fuck is happening? This is like little league shit. It is. It's insane because judge you know, and you see when he's about to catch it, he sees Kike Hernandez pushing like he's running. So he thinks, oh, I can pick him off if I catch this.

And it's the quickest moment. And everyone's like, oh, he made a mistake. It's like, well, he was, no, the guy did great base running, which caused that mistake. Yes. But also Garrett Cole, like hanging out. Oh, going, not going to first? Not going to first?

I'd already said, like, all right. What the fuck are you doing? It was unreal. That fifth inning was one of the greatest fifth innings I've ever watched. My water heater was getting fixed during the fifth inning. They showed up as the inning was starting, like knocking on the door. I'm like, God damn it. Hi. They're like, where's the water? It's in the back.

They come back. We can't find it. I'm like, all right. And Hi. They're like, where's the water? It's in the back. They come back, we can't find it. I'm like, all right. And I go back. It's the fifth inning it's happening. It was so great. Well, that's the problem with living on the West Coast. You know, East Coast, everyone's in bed. Yeah.

You get to go. Nobody's fixing water heaters. Nobody's fixing water heaters. No. They have shame on them. That was the Dodgers. Needed that water heater fixed though. That was kind of nice. What part of L.A. do you live in? Silver Lake.

Nice. I lived there, I was in L.A. for nine years and all my time was either Los Feliz or Silver Lake. Yeah, I've been in Echo Park and Silver Lake and I did a little Glendale stint. Nice in Glendale. Yeah. Yeah, it's not L.A. Thatale. Yeah. Yeah. It's not LA. It's like-

That's how they get you. It's how they get you, yeah. Nick Thune, do you have anything you'd like to promote while you're on the show? Yeah. I have a special on YouTube, which is the Netflix of- DIY. The internet. Yeah. Right. And it's free, which is the best part about it.

To be. To be. Yeah. You can do that too. Yeah. It's called Born Young. Born Young. Nick Thune.

Born Young. And it's Nick with a CK. Yep. Right. Not N-I-Q-U-E. And Thune with a P. With a P. Yeah. P-T-H-Q-U-E. And Thune with a P. Yep, and Thune with a P. With a P. Yeah.

P-T-H-U-N-P. P-T-E Anderson. Yep. Born young, Nick Thune on YouTube. Now, Nick, I end every podcast with a question from my daughter. Okay. So this is a question from my daughter. Okay. So this is a question from Marlo. We were cooking something and she noticed the flames on the stove. And she wants to know, what is the difference between a red flame and a blue flame?

You can answer it any way you see fit. And what's her name? Marlo. Marlo. Well, Marlo, I would say the difference between a red and a blue flame is if you've seen The Matrix. Has she seen The Matrix? No. We'll show her The Matrix. Okay. The whole trilogy or? I think you just need to see the first one actually. Yeah. And if you're blue-flamed, then you just kind of live in this oblivious world of heaven heaven and if you're red-flamed, it is being, you're aware and you're sad.

So, that's- So, it's kind of a moral question. Like, I don't know, is it a moral question or just a, like, what kind of, do you want to know the truth? Yeah. Do you want to know or would you rather be happy? Yeah. And I bet she seems like somebody that wants to maybe know.

Yeah, but I would not. I'm going to keep her happy. Yeah. All right. So take her out of public school and send her to a private Christian elementary school. Okay, got it. Got it. Okay.

Thank you, Nick Thune. Thank you. Thanks for dropping in. Thank you. Wow, look at these cameras, by the way. I didn't even notice. Yeah. This is a live stream to the Philippines that is – it looks like it's shooting you, but it's actually a TV on the other side that's showing live feed of Bourbon Street in New Orleans. to Bourbon Street in New Orleans. This one goes to a monkey house at the Bronx Zoo. That's nice. Yeah, there's eagles you can watch. I know.

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