Senses Working Overtime with David Cross - Nimesh Patel

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

Nimesh Patel (SNL) joins David to talk about clubbing, the best sandwiches they've ever eaten, and more. Catch all new episodes every Thursday. Watch video episodes here.Guest: Nimesh PatelSubscribe and Rate Senses Working Overtime on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave us a review to read on a future episode!Follow David on Instagram and Twitter.Follow the show:Instagram: @sensesworkingovertimepodTikTok: @swopodEditor: Kati SkeltonEngineer: Chris OsbornExecutive Producer: Emma FoleyAdvertise on Senses Working Overtime via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. Buh. Where? Seat. Wherever you'd like. And I... the the Do you have a hard out? No, I'm good. I'm good. My flight's at seven, but my whole timeline is compressed. Yeah. You know, where are you going? L.A. OK. My wife's friend is getting married in on Friday. So we just lined up a line of a few stand up shows. Sorry to hear that. Yeah. Is it a good friend? It's one of her good friends. Yeah.

How about you? Oh, no, I barely know. And so you have to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Do you know anybody who's going to be there? No, just my wife. I think we'll have a few. I know like a few friends in passing. Yeah. But no one crazy.

But it'll be a few hours, so I'm not too... Where are they getting married? Downtown LA somewhere. Oh, the Union Station? I've been to two weddings there. No idea where it is. The train station does like private events and stuff. Uh-huh.

And I've been to a couple weddings. It's nice. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I've been to a couple weddings. I've been to a couple weddings. I've been to a couple weddings. I've been to a couple weddings. I've been to a couple weddings. I've been to two weddings there. No idea where it is. The train, the train station does like private events and stuff. And I've been to a couple of weddings.

It's nice. Yeah. I'm looking, I mean, we're going to be there for a few days and hanging out with some friends beforehand and I got a bunch of shows lined up, so it'll be quick time. Um, and there's also, uh, there's a ton of like homeless encampments downtown to like, especially in like the toy district. Yeah. So if you want to, yeah, it's like, check them out. Maybe do some drop in sets, you know,

you ever not enough. I have one of those lined up too. Okay, let me put my phone on. My buzz. Are you still friends with the Shinali Bomek by any chance? Yeah, you know Shinali? Of course. It's a I feel like she's a secret handshake in comedy. Oh, she's yeah, she's very well connected. Yeah, she I'm very good friends with her and Jasper and yeah, do you go how far back do you go with her? I'm very good friends with her and Jasper and yeah, do you go? How far back do you go with her?

She's probably well first she she is the reason I got my first paid comedy gig. No kidding, you know Marcellus. Yep So thank you for having me Marcellus I Was doing um, I was doing this open mic So wait, I'm sorry to interrupt but are you from New York or? Are you from Jersey? From Jersey. Okay. Tri-state area. Yeah. Like 40 minutes out. Parsippany has a great furniture, cheapy furniture warehouse type place. Oh, really? Right. Yeah. Off of whatever that is. 46. Yeah, I guess. And then I don't remember, but they have.

It's like a step above home goods. Uh huh. So but they have like really. Big area of rugs. Uh huh. That are. Literally 90 percent less than like a fancy big rug, but they look fancy. And so I did. Yeah. rug, but they look fancy. Uh-huh. And so. No idea. Yeah.

But I'd like to see. Parsippany has a lot of hidden treasures. I mean, yeah, we go back. I mean, I'm an OG Parsippany head. We were there before all the other Indians moved in. I think my parents moved there, 83 maybe? So they've been there forever. Well, not that long. Not that long. 83 is not forever.

Not the 50s or whatever, but among the first Indian people to be there, which is a cool little feather in our cap. So I'm sorry I interrupted you. So you know Marcellus. Yes, I was doing an open mic, you know, like lounge, Karma lounge or whatever. I think it's gone now, but downstairs I used to have this open mic and it would be music, poetry, comedy, all that kind of stuff. And I went on a whim and I did like these really stupid jokes about carrots and I don't know.

Carrots? It was like one of these, I had really prided myself on reading, writing like a very circular joke about carrots and mashed potatoes and all this stuff. And as I was leaving after I did, I think I did well, but as I was leaving, this guy tapped me on the shoulder, he's like, Hey man, you're really funny. I was like, okay, thank you. Like here's my card and my friend runs the show. And this is when Chinale and Chelsea and Heather and Andrea ran Variety Shack.

Variety Shack, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And she was like, I was like, he was like, my friend runs a show. I was like, okay. And I took his card and I messaged him. He linked me with Shannali. Shannali came to see me at a bar. So this must've been a while back because they haven't done Variety Shack in a decade. This was probably 12 years ago. Yeah. 12, 13 years ago.

Okay. And I did, Shannali saw me at this open mic at the Duplex. And then she was like, you're really funny. And she booked me on Variety Shack. From Variety Shack, I did a Bobby Tisdale show underneath the bookstore in Greenpoint. And that was my first paid gig. Shannali and I became very fast friends. I might've seen you at, did you go to her wedding in New Orleans? I did.

Yeah. I likely saw you there. Oh yeah, for sure. Well, we were both at the same wedding. Yeah. Yeah. Where I was on the streets and we were, it was great. Um, it was a great time. Uh, but yeah, so I know she's all forever.

So did you know her, uh, her dad passed away recently, but did you know her folks? Yeah. Because they're awesome. I met them both. Shannali's mom will text me at least once or twice a year, checking in. Whenever I go to Nashville, I make sure that she comes to the shows. Oh man, that's great. Yeah, she's great.

Yeah. And Lily's uncle was also like the nicest guy. Oh, the best. You can see where Stanley. Yeah. Gets her like. Her whole. Unquenchable. That's not the right word. You can't extinguish.

Unextinguishable spirit. Yeah. You know. Yeah, because they so she was in a band called Ultra Baby Fat in Atlanta. I know her from Atlanta going way, way, way, way, way back. And when I first went out on the road, I had them open up for me, the band, and we would do music venues and it was just, you know, they'd play for 45 minutes and I go as long as I could till I had a pee and I you know so I mean yeah I go way way back yeah I remember her telling me that you guys met in Atlanta and that she would be opening and on the road

and then I forget how she landed in New York maybe it it was her law job that brought her here. Yeah. Well, I think some people in this business gravitate towards New York, especially from Atlanta. She had a bunch of friends here and stuff. I think her relationship had just ended with Ronnie. I don't know. Yeah. But yeah, we crossed paths. And now I just texted her the other day because she sent

her new album one machine at a time, like the songbook and all that kind of stuff to our to our house with a little gift for my kids. So I just texted her the other day. And how many kids do you have? Just one. Just one. How old?

Five months. Oh, brand new. Yeah, yeah, she's. So you're getting, you're leaving to LA. Well, I'm just, she's coming. OK, that's not a good idea. We already flew to San Antonio when she was like three months old, and that was, I think of it as it wasn't that bad,

but my wife was like, it was a disaster. But like, I feel like I have a good sense of time from just being on stage all the time and like knowing what 20 minutes feels like and what 30, whatever. Oh, that's a good skill. Yeah, and it felt like she was crying forever, but in my internal clock, it felt like it was an aggregate of like 20 minutes.

That's not bad. You are so, there's not a lot you can do and you know that there is at least one person and you're going, fuck those people, but you still feel like there's somebody going, God, shut that baby up yeah yeah but like everyone around us was super nice yeah they should be and you know we were all that kid once and and you know it's a tough situation the parents it's not there's not a whole lot you can do yeah you know you know especially months, five months. Yeah. Three months she was, she was like a bit crazy. Now she's a lot calmer.

She settled down. Yeah, she settled down a bit. Plus we're also flying like right around her bedtime and we're gonna get the airport super early and hopefully she's like close to being asleep by the time we get on the plane, bottle, fall asleep on my wife and then we'll be all right, I hope. get on the plane, bottle, fall asleep on my wife and we'll be all right, I hope. Sometimes you got to deal with that inner internal ear pressure thing. Yeah, we'll give her the bottle so she can chew on it, put that little muffs on, hopefully. And a little dribble of whiskey. Yeah, yeah, of course. Keep her out.

Red wine. Not too much. You don't want to go red wine. No? No. No. Well, it's just there's too much. You don't want to go red wine. That's not no, no. You know, well, it's just there's too much sugar in it. So you want to go whiskey, tequila if you're if you're are you watching her weight? I'm sure she's not getting too chunky. Yeah. So then maybe tequila. Okay. And, and just you're gonna have to find out prior to traveling if she's Blanco, Robesada, you know, she's probably fancy.

Yeah. Yeah. She's a fancy girl. What style she likes. I don't like the smoky tequila. And my wife loves, you know, LaFroy, you know, whiskey and peaty smoky stuff. And I just I like the Blanco. I like the smooth. So not a vodka for the baby. I mean. You want them to feel something.

I mean, I just culturally would rather have tequila than vodka. That's just my, and not for my kid, for your kid. And is your wife Indian? No. Okay, so half. Half Indian, half white. Okay, so maybe there's no, there's, is there an Indian liqueur, like a hard liquor? That's. We're, we're on the come up in the whiskey scene. Oh, well that doesn't count. No. No. Why not? Because that's already been established. And we're also coming up, there's a doesn't count. No. Why not? Because that's already been established.

And we're also coming up, there's a lot of Indian gins. Okay, well, that makes sense. The English came out right. So there's like colonial gin, there's British Raj Gin. I don't like any of that. Colonial gin? Yeah, it's really bad. Was slavery gin already taken?

Yeah. Colonial gin. British Raj Gin is the one that bothers me the most. It's like, why would you name, like, this is not a good name for your gin. Like, what do you, this is not something to be proud of. Vichy government gin. Yeah, yeah, it's stupid. Sellout gin. Yeah.

Maybe we'll give her some gin. All right. Yeah. Get her some. Well, it's, gin's a, that was the first hard, uh, liquor that I started drinking when I was a teenager. Uh-huh. Um, only because I was way into the who and the who had a couple of songs where

they mentioned gin, they would drink gin. Oh, really? Yeah. So I drank gin. My first one, my first was Johnny Walker black. Cause my dad would drink it but he would have a little Pint in the garage because my mom did not allow him to bring it into the house. So if we saw dad go to the garage Before bed after dinner or whatever it was we know what he was doing and

Did your mom know what he was doing? It was not it was not like a secret. So he couldn't he couldn't bring the liquor. He could drink and then enter. He could transport the liquor in his stomach. Yes. But he couldn't transport it in a glass. Yeah, there was no like no liquor cabinet or anything like that. It was no place. We drink. We're going to have alcohol in the house. It was you keep that you keep your vices in the, in the garage.

So that, so was it a strict household? It wasn't strict in the sense of like, I wasn't allowed to play or part, no grounding or anything like that. But when it came to alcohol, it was keeping the garage. And I mean, granted I was eight, nine years old, uh, when I became like cognizant of, of alcohol being a thing. And, but it wasn't until high school that I was like, I wanna try that.

And it was- How did it go down? We had Johnny walk, my parents left the house and- Wait, do you have siblings? I have a younger sister. Okay. She's four years younger, the better person by far. But I was like, okay, I'm going to take some whiskey and I bought orange juice.

Whiskey, orange juice, sure. So I had Johnny Walker Black in a glass bottle of orange juice and I poured it in. Did you have any idea of the proportion? No, it wasn't like half and half or anything. It was probably like just this much whiskey, a little bit, enough to like smell and taste, but not enough to get you completely blacked out or anything like that. But I brought it to school. How old are you?

I'm probably a freshman or sophomore in high school. So whatever that is, 13, 14 years old. Yeah. I don't know. And I brought it to school and I took like one little sip and I was like, and I also chickened out. I was like, I don't want to be drunk before class. Right. I gave it to a friend of mine. My friend drank it. He had a great day. He had a great day. But I'm sure, I'm sure. Where is he he now though in the toy district in LA? He's doing okay. I hope he's doing all right. Oh

But that's a fond memory for me is I remember being like, oh, I'm gonna sneak some whiskey in it Like what an awful thing to do to taint Johnny Walker black with orange juice like that's not that's That's what we're missing orange is not supposed to mix together But Johnny Walker black is like of the regular, it's like a slightly higher end version of it. I'm thinking of my dad's stash. Did your dad notice at all?

If they noticed, they didn't say anything. They would have said something. I feel like they would have said something. Maybe I'm just not remembering that they said something like, where's the whiskey? But also, if my dad was gonna say something to me It would probably be implying That it would be bad because then my mom would be like if you have whiskey in the house This would never happen, right?

So my dad was like, I don't want to piss her off like right arm no foul situation kind of thing And I only took it once so it's not like it was a consistent pattern of stealing whiskey And then what was your next drink? And when was your next drink? Probably my senior year, I was like super straight edged, like almost annoyingly straight edged in high school. Cause like my cousins and friends were all drinking

and getting high and all that. And I was, no, I'm going to be a nerd and study and all that kind of stuff. But once I got into college, my senior year, then I started partying and I think one of the first drinks I had was- Wait, I'm sorry, senior year in high school because you had already been accepted to college.

Yeah, exactly, my senior year in high school, once I got accepted into college, I was like, all right, now I can party. And I think I took Corona and a shot of Bacardi. And you would put the shot of Bacardi into the Corona and then flip it and then drink it. That doesn't sound good. It was awesome.

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Thanks. Typical Indian party art. It's where Rutgers, New Brunswick, Club Platinum, it's a Friday, or say that's the name of the club. Club Platinum. It's Friday. A cut above Club Gold. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

A step behind Club Gold. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gold is... A step behind Club Diamond. Club Platinum on Church Street, the intersection of Church is, I forget the actual street it's on. It'll be a Friday or Saturday night, depending on what, when Five Star Entertainment, that's the name of the party promoter. Don Rogge was the name of the party promoter. Don Raj was the name of the- It's this, every club platinum five star entertainment. Don Raj, don't forget Don Raj.

Don Raj. He was a party promoter. It would be, like we were pregame from like 10 to 11 o'clock on Easton Avenue at my cousin's apartment. Oh, this is a late night. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you're not out until 11. Yeah, we're-

You're not hitting the club till 11. Yeah, we're getting toasted first because drinks are expensive and they're likely not to, we all had fake IDs. When I was 18, I was 26. I had all my cousins pass backs and the bouncers did not care at all. They're like, yeah, sure, you're 28, whatever the hell it is.

We would pull up 11 o'clock. You've never seen so many Camrys and Honda Accords. Like every, every Indian person tries to stay there. He is coming. And we try to cut the line. Cause the line would be stupid. We'd all be in express shirts. The whole like rainbow was represented.

We would have, we'd have bottle of curve cologne in the car. We'd all wear the curve. This is all fact. And we would pull up and my cousin, Encore would likely know one of the promoters. It would be four or five of us. And we'd see what the stamp was to let you back in. Back in, yeah. Yeah, if you went out to smoke a cigarette, we'd see what that was. Is this in the licking days of transfer?

Yeah, exactly, licking days. So one of us would go in, get the stamp, come back out and we'd all. Everyone, I can't believe, I mean, this is like universal that they haven't figured out. I guess they have now. I don't know, I haven't been to club and I don't think ever, but you know, I've been to plenty of the things where you just get the, you know, you were in Jersey and I was in Atlanta. It was the same thing everywhere. In Saskatchewan they do it. One enterprising guy licked a wrist. Somehow that spread like wildfire. You could save $7 if you just lick your cousin's wrist. So we would do that.

Wait, you don't have to lick their wrist. I misspoke, I misspoke. So we'd get in and we would try to look cool, like try to eye down on all the other 19 year olds posing as 25 year olds, go straight to the bar and then things would get hazy. You know, we'd see like what girls were dancing, who was looking at who, try to talk to girls. Most of the time just end up sloppy as hell. I remember one party. I remember one party. It was Kevin Little was, uh, was singing. It was like performing. Kevin Little was, you know,

Chris, who's Kevin Little? Was it turn me on? Yeah. You know, you know, so yeah, how old are you? Okay, so yes, save right around the same age, but that's a that was like I wouldn't classify as dance hall Soft dance hall music but it was like the song that summer and I remember going to that party and that was one party where I kind of blacked out because we were I think we had gotten a table or like, somehow we're in like the VIP area. Oh, bottle service. Definitely not like bottle service, but we had somehow finagled our way into like the quote unquote VIP section near Kevin Little. We thought we were so fucking cool.

I got blacked out at that event for sure. And then and then it'd be like two or three o'clock. We all leave. Was there a place you all ate afterwards? Yeah, we go to Jimmy's Jimmy's on Eastern Avenue. They have fat sandwiches. It's now, it's now closed, but this was in the grease truck days. Um, grease trucks were just a set of trucks that serve like ridiculous combinations of food within two pieces of bread.

But Jimmy's was like a, a sit down, not sit down, but you could sit there. It was like maybe six, 10 tables. So it's like a food truck, but it's got seating outside or it's in- Yeah, those are the grease trucks. Okay. But if- I've never heard that term before. You've never heard grease trucks? Oh, okay. I'm not sure if they still exist near Rutgers, but it was a Rutgers thing. It was

written up in a bunch of food. But wait, so just to be clear, are we talking about food trucks that we know of today? Yeah, just a big ass food truck. But you call them grease trucks. Got it. Yeah, but it would be in a giant parking lot. Yeah, with other food. Four or five of them.

But Jimmy's had a storefront, so he could go in and there'd be a line and all that. But we went there enough times to be like, yo, Jimmy, hopefully cut a little bit. But it would be, I would get the fat mouth. The fat mouth was chicken fingers, jalapeno poppers, French fries, lettuce, tomato, onions, because you need vegetable. Mozzarella sticks, mayo, lettuce. In a sandwich. In a sandwich. And when you're drunk and Kevin Little's blaring in your head, there's nothing better than a fat mouth.

That sounds disgusting. It was so good. I went back on a... I'd performed a... I mean, I would take the tomato out. Then I'd eat it. Then it'd be delightful. That's not normal, honestly.

It's bad for your kidneys. I went when I was in New Brunswick, I did stress factory in New Brunswick in December, um, and Jimmy's is closed, but they still have places that sell fat sandwiches. I ordered, I ordered a fat mouth type to the, to the green room and man. It brought me back. It was so good. It was so good, man. It was so good.

I could, I don't know how I used to eat a whole one of those. I took like two bites. Like, that's enough. But man, what a sandwich. Well, if we're going to talk sandwiches. Uh huh. There's a you play New Orleans. Yes, sir. Twice. OK. So in the gosh, I think it's northwest part of the French Quarter, like as you're leaving the French Quarter, there's a place called Verdi Mart.

Verdi? Yeah, Verdi, like green and whatever language. Verdi Mart., it's a tiny bodega type place. You go to the back and they make these sandwiches. And the Po Boys are great. And the standard stuff, it's all great. But they have a sandwich called All That Jazz. Uh-huh. And I have, I will get that delivered to the green room and I will order extras and take it back on the plane with me even if I've got carry on and it's just snaking the whole thing up, but it is the best sandwich I've ever had. What's in it?

I don't know. There's air, it's like, you know, meats and egg and cheese and sauce and all kinds of shit. And I sadly don't know, but it's like the best bite of it's just a perfect sandwich. I'll have to go. All that jazz at Verdi Mart. Verdi Mart. Yeah, French Quarter.

But in Boston, when I was doing the equivalent at the same age of what you were doing, there was a place, I don't know if it's there anymore in, in Cambridge, a Mass Ave called Hi-Fi Pizza. Okay. And they had subs and they had something called the meat bomb. And it was every fucking meat they had, everything. So it was that they put on pizzas, right? So it's So it was that they put on pizzas, right? So it's bacon, pepperoni, sausage, meatballs, you know, whatever shit they had. And then with cheese and they would just give it to you.

And, you know, 19 year old drunken, you would be like, this is great sausage, but you know, crumbly sausage and link sausage and hot dog, just everything, the meat bomb. All the shit that they couldn't sell on the pizzas. I guess. And it was expensive too. I mean, in a comparative sense. So, you'd eat half and then save half and then cut that half and half. So you'd have to try to get three meals out of it.

cut that half and half. So you'd have to try to get three meals out of it. I find it amazing how sandwiches have such a grip on so many people in a sense of like, those meals I don't remember having, but like I still remember the sandwich I would eat every Thursday after high school at Banjio's on Littleton road that was attached to the gas station because Mr. Kim made it.

Like I've never, to this day, I've never had a turkey sandwich that tasted that good. I don't know what he was doing. Sesame roll, sesame hero. Yeah, when you get a sandwich right, it's great. It's perfect. And how many times have you had like the comparable like a godmother, you know, which is all the Italian cold cuts and I think some cheese and then, you know, shredded lettuce, tomato,

oil and vinegar. It's like the standard. Yeah. If the godfather and the godmother, they're all over, you know, it's not like regional thing. And then like the best one I've ever had is at Bay City's Deli in Los Angeles. And then you go to get the same thing and it'll be called the same thing and it's just not even close to as good. Yeah. And so you remember those sandwiches. I can tell you the best grilled cheese sandwich I've ever had in my life.

And I doubt anything will ever come close. Word. And it's in Borough Market in London. Okay. Which is this old, you know, hundreds of years, hundreds years old, you know, with food stalls and all kinds of stuff. And there's this place that make, it only does two things. Um, it does raclette.

I think I'm pronouncing that correctly. It's like, uh, it's where you take this big block of this specific. I think it's a Swiss type of cheese, not Swiss cheese, but I think it's made anyway. Uh, and it's on this kind of, of, it's like a loaf of bread shape. I know what you're talking about. And then it's like on this press and then it heats up and you scrape it off on the potatoes. Okay. So that's, they have that and then they have this, the only other thing they do is like this toasty.

It's on, you know, everything's artisanal and you know, this bread comes from this baker down the street and this cheese is made by our dairy farm and it's just a simple grilled cheese sandwich. It's insane. It's called what's it? I don't know, but I'll look it up. I'm going to London in June, so I'll have to go. Oh, dude, you have to go to Borough Market. Borough Market, okay. And it's hard to go wrong there, but I will give you the name of this.

And you'll see a big line. Okay. Because it's, you can't go in. It's literally, that's the size of, you know, two of these chairs put together and maybe eight feet deep, maybe. And somebody, there'll be a big line. They'll give you a little ticket. You either got the raclette or the sandwich.

And it's one of the very few things I will wait in line for. I'll wait in line for Franklin's BBQ in Austin. In Austin, yeah. And I will wait in line for that grilled cheese sandwich. Okay. I'll have to go. It's great. And have you been to London before? I've been to London a few times. The one place I always go to in London is Jim Cona. Where's that?

You're a big fan of Indian food? Yeah, well London's got amazing Indian food. Jim Cona's the best, probably some of the best Indian food I've ever had. Where is it, Jim Cona? How do you spell it? J-Y-G-Y-M-K-H-A-N-A, Jim Cona. It's like a fancier establishment,

but not like you can't get in kind of place. It's not in Brick Lane or where all the. No, no, no. It's, I want to say it's near the, it's in Marleybone I want to say. Oh, Marylebone. That's a fancy area. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. So it's, so it's, it's, yeah. So it's fancy. It's a fancy area. Yeah. Okay. So it's soup. So it's, it's yeah. So it's fancy. It's nice. Yeah. But man, like it's traditional North Indian Punjabi kind of Indian food, but it's just like the best version of it all. You know, like your butter chicken. Southern Indian more seafood based? Southern Indian is more seafood. Tomato? It's spicier. North Indian is more tomato based.

Okay. If you're gonna make a generalization about it, but. I'm not racist. No, no, no. If you wanna say it like that, no, it's a- You wanna generalize about there's a billion people's culture and food. It's hard to categorize because you'll get like

North Indian seafood takes, or you'll get like a South Indian take on chicken tikka masala or something. But Jim kind of just does the best version of all the traditional like tandoori chicken. It's the best you've ever had. Okay. Best butter chicken you've ever had. Okay. And I make it a point to go there.

Like I try to get a reservation before as early as I can before the trip. And the only- Maybe I'll try it because my wife and daughter are gonna come over. I'm there in a couple of weeks. I leave Thursday for Oslo. But I carved a week around my London show to coincide with my daughter's, it's New York

City spring break or whatever they call it. So my wife who also loves London, we spent a lot of time there and daughter are gonna come and we're there for a week. So. Yeah, check out Jim Connor. I will. It's incredible. I haven't gone to Dishoom yet, which is like the other.

I love Dishoom, but it's really buzzy and, but you have to get the, you have to go with a bunch of people and you have to get the, whatever they're famous for, like their, you know, 24 hour cooked lamb thing, and they bring it in. And it's sort of like pulled like pulled pork type of thing where you just you get tongs and, you know, everybody sits around and it's fucking amazing. My friends love it.

But the friends that have gone to both are like Jim Conn is better. The Shum is like they just had the one spot and then it just blew up and now they've got like five different and it's a bit clubby and scene story. You know what I mean? But I haven't been since I went to the first one shortly after it opened, but it's really good. Oh yeah, I will try to go when I'm out there

if I have the time to do two Indian spots. I'm only there for two nights before I fly to my friend's bachelor party. But I'm waiting for Deschum to open in New York. Hopefully I think there's a rumblings that it's gonna happen. Oh really? But.

It seems kind of a no brainer. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but right now, have you been to the Maca yet? No, I haven't. Oh, man. Yeah, that's my favorite Indian restaurant on planet. Those those folks who opened up to Maca fairly recently opened up a place in Park Slope. Oh, Masala. Masa, have you eaten there?

Yeah. Is it good? It's good, but it's not my favorite. Each one of the restaurants, Sema, Masala Walla, Ada, and the Maca are different variants, and Rady Rus are just different variants of Indian cuisine. And the Maca is probably, they have like, this is our North Indian thing, this is our South Indian, this they have like, this is our North Indian thing.

This is our South Indian, this is our Mumbai, this is our, you know, because there's a billion people. So they have from all the different regions. Masala Walla is, I think, I'm not even sure what specific region they're pulling from the inspiration, but it's not my favorite, but it is good. Of all of them, the Maca is my favorite. Sema is second, Ada is third, and then Masala Wala is fourth. And then Rowdy Rooster is just like, I've had it twice only to have

my white friends who go there like cry over their spice levels, you know? Oh, I can't do the, there used to be, it might still be there on sixth in the East village. You know, what used to be like, you know, Indian row, curry lane, and just, I mean, but now it's not really like that. But there was this place that opened up and it was, you know, they were the first ones to have the challenge, right? If you can eat, it starts with a P, what's the dish that's super spicy? meat. It starts with a P. What's the dish that's super spicy? Paneer?

No, no, no. It was like a pH. Is there a word with that starts with pH in? Hindi? I'm not sure. I speak Urdu. Maybe I don't know. It was. It's not pho, that's the Vietnamese soup. It's, okay, it doesn't matter. But, so there was this thing and you, you know, they had the people on the wall and you get a t-shirt and whatever it is and, you know, you get. Tom's. And I went with John Benjamin and we were like, let's do that challenge.

And we, we were going to split this and it was excruciating. I probably had, we didn't even, the two of us did not finish half of the dish. And I probably had, I'm going to say five or six bites. And I felt it for the next day and a half. The brutal. Is terrible. And I don't know why you would do that to yourself. Yeah, it's like, who are you proving anything to?

Like my friend, we went to Rady Rooster, Rady Rooster has five spice levels, right? It's like one is good. I can go up to three, four and five. They're just like, are you sure, dude? Are you sure? And my friend had the four and his eyes just blood red, sweating. Oh, that's the other thing is, cause I got no pear.

And so when I eat, just in the, when I get into the, okay, that's spicy level, which is maybe three, you know, where it's like, that's, you know, not just a little heat, but that's a lot of heat. I mean, I just start pouring. Yeah. And you know, if I were to go to four, or even a couple bites of five, I'd just be drenched. Your body is saying you're raining from my head. You're being poisoned. Whatever it is you're doing. The maka used to be like that the maka because the chef is like, to be like that the maka because the chef is like, chef is a purist and Chintin is a purist and he's just like all the food that you would get in India,

like you can't say can you make it mild? Can you make it medium? Can you make it spicy? It's just like one consistent spice level. And when it first opened, it was a slightly higher level of spice than where it's at now. But that was just like, this is what we eat. This is how spicy it's supposed to be. And you would just see people like, you know, trying to power through the meal. I got it. Even me, I was like, this is hot.

Yeah. And my wife is like, this is like, yeah, but this is what it is. But it wasn't like painful, but it was spicy enough to be like registering. And also not, it stops becoming enjoyable. Yeah, it remained enjoyable. Like the, I swear that the paneer at, paneer meh tia de maa ka is like the best paneer

I've ever had. Okay. Man, I can't say enough about it. Like my friends have, the one small piece of celebrity that I have, I can get into a lot of Indian restaurants. And so we've been to all of them. That is a small slice of swimming. We've been to all of them and bungalow is great, salmon is awesome, Kanya Kumari can hold its own, but the Maka is just like. Yeah. I mean, I've heard about it.

No, it's great. And anytime I pass by, it's just slamming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to keep talking. Go ahead. I'm going to look up these. Oh, it's going to bother you, the pH thing. Well, that I'm not going to get. But I mean, as soon as we're done, tape,

but I want to make sure I've got the because I said the wrong Title of a book Oh Verty mark Verty I Marte is the deli in New Orleans and I'll give you a oh All that jazz. Oh, I'm gonna tell you what it is ready. Oh New Orleans and I'll give you a, oh, all that jazz. Oh, I'm going to tell you what it is. Ready?

Uh-huh. Oh, wow. This is exciting. This is what it looks like. That looks painful, but a medley. You bring it on a plane? A medley. Oh yeah.

Yeah. Grilled ham, turkey and shrimp, Swiss and American cheese, grilled mushrooms, tomatoes on French bread with our our wow sauce. It's it's it's ham and shrimp. I'm telling you, man, I am telling you, it's fucking good. It must have a nice bathroom. No, I mean, there's no bathroom. It's just like it's in the back in the.

And now I'm going to look up grilled, I want to get these things right for everybody. Grilled cheese, London, up grilled I want to get these things right for everybody grilled cheese London burrow market here we go Capac a caesian dairy this is it so this is all K a P P a C a S E I and And they, it's just a tiny little thing. I'll text myself right now. Here's the, the rich melty goodness of high quality cheese. Every bite is warm, satisfying, and packed with flavor.

Simple yet expertly crafted. And so here's a, here's a, some pictures of the, so that's what the thing looks like. It's, it doesn't look like that looks really good. But it's, you can see how small it is. It's this place. Oh, okay. Oh yeah. It looks like just outside.

Yeah. There's no place to, it's just, it's just the, uh, and look, that's where the guy makes a sound set. Looks awesome. Yeah. It's really good. And it is, uh, worth the wait in line for sure. Florence has a few places like that.

That's just like a hole in the wall spot, put lines out the door. They actually opened one in Soho now, actually in West Village. Sandwich place? Yeah, Del Antico, I think that's the name of it. Okay. Very good sandwiches out of Florence. The line's like always out the door, fresh meat.

The bread is always perfect. What kind of sandwiches is Florence known for? I mean, I would always get like the, do some kind of like, not baba ganoush, but like pureed eggplant with mozzarella cheese, just on a piece of I don't know if it's not focaccia bread, but it might be. And then some kind I don't even know what the cream that that kind of pistachio cream or something. Oh, yeah, yeah. When mortadella. Yeah, man. It's just killer. I got another sandwich for you.

Here we go. All right. When you go to LA. Okay. So this is, I mean, it is now jumped into my top 10. Okay. Actually, it's right down the street from the Headgum Studio in LA, where I'll go like twice a year to, you know, bang out a bunch of these podcasts with LA folks. And it's called Lasordas. Lasordas. But it's like, so like Tommy Lasorda.

Sounds familiar. It's on Sunset. Dude, the mortadella sandwich with the burrata pistachio cream on their homemade bread is fucking insane. Lasordas. It's on Sunset. Wait, here we go. Oshinola just texted me. Tell her what you're doing.

Lasordas. So it's like Lasorda, but it's L-A, capital A and then capital S O R T E D S. This is it tiny. There's no place to sit down. You just order it, go to a window and order it. And yeah, trust me on this one, man. The mortadella sandwich is ridiculous. Is this it? is ridiculous. Is this it? She always says hi and asks, why haven't I been on your podcast yet? A teller. I was waiting to interview you and have, and, and I wanted to start the podcast by talking about somebody that no one else knows for

10 minutes. And now that's established. People are going to know who Shanali Bomek is. They can Google her, of course. And also, she – tell her all this. And kind of like my sister, maybe it's a Southern thing, I don't know, but is basically the mayor of wherever she goes. She knows everybody, everybody loves her. Like whenever I go back home in Atlanta, and my sister still lives there and everybody's still there. But I mean, everywhere we go, Wendy will know somebody or somebody will know Wendy. And I meet people, I'll meet people in like Sacramento like, oh yeah, I know your sister. I mean, she's, very extroverted and social and stuff. And, um, uh,

sounds like my sister. Now, earlier you said your sister is better than you in every way. How, how is that? She's like very congenial. Everyone loves her. She's, uh, super smart, very accomplished. Um, just like, What'd she do? She's an attorney.

Does Chanel know her? Yeah, Chanel knows her too. Okay. Of course. They're probably faster friends than. They're the same, but it's like, they're the same person. Yeah, it's like Spider-Man.

They know, it's like just outgoing, loved by everybody, nice, like intentional with everything that they do, really inquisitive and curious and like empathetic, just everything you'd want a person to be. Everything you'd want a Republican to be. Yeah, there it is. And also just a just super super supportive a rock in every single way

Yeah, my my there's three kids in my family and my My the middle sister Wendy is the glue of the family. Yeah for sure. My sister is too like she's like like text me make sure you remember mom and dad's anniversary, like all that kind of stuff. And I'm like, like, I'm very, I think first child, first child of and son and son of immigrants in the sense like I'm like, not standoffish, but I'm very much like, I'm bad at showing how much I love my parents. Whereas my sister's just like on top of everything. What do you think that is? I don't know.

I mean, do you think it has something to do with first born versus second born? I think it's a lot. It's definitely a lot to do with how much pressure that was put on me as a kid. Is it like typical? Typical immigrant, like you've got to be a doctor kind of thing. Right, you've got to study and...

All that nonsense. And I'm sure there's also tons of like PTSD from all of the stuff like my uncle and aunt and how I was raised in that regard. But when it comes to... Wait, what do you mean? I just witnessed a lot of stuff I probably shouldn't have. Like what? Just violence. Oh, shit. Yeah, shouldn't have. Like what? Just violence.

Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But- Like man on woman violence? Correct. Right. Which is weird because no one's a cop in my family, but it was- What the fuck?

Wait a minute. I don't want to let that slide. That took like a second half to register. But what's it called? Like with my immediate family, it was, I think it was always just like a lot of poor communication of love. The love languages are all messed up. Whereas my sister somehow kind of bubbled above that and became this like very strong, smart, sensitive person.

Whereas I'm in my own regards, like working on those things but she is the embodiment. So you think it's a combination of being naturally repressed and also learned repression? I think that's a fair way to think about it. When I talk to my therapist, it's always like, I feel one thing and then I feel bad that I feel that way. And it's just like, oh, you were probably in your life, you were taught to, if you feel angry, it's probably not a good emotion to feel. Or If you feel sad, it's not a good emotion to feel. So that's learned behavior.

And because of that, everything else is impacted by that feeling that you need to kind of repress your emotion. And I would take pride in my ability to be stoic in a lot of situations, but really it wasn't stoicism and it's like full embodiment. It was more just like, I was just like, no, I'm not supposed to be mad. So I'm not right. That kind of thing. But that Well, it's good that you're seeing a therapist that they've observed that. And you know, you can know that at least. Yeah, it takes it took a while for that to kind of be peeled back. But and what about your wife what is she what's her personality she's hard on her sleeve

Yeah, you know how she's feeling. Yeah at all times and she's just like a very Simple as reductive but just very clear about How she's feeling and communicating how she's feeling. And quite sensitive too. It's like if I'm feeling something or beginning to feel something and I don't know it yet, she's like, are you okay? Like, what's going on? Yeah, I have an extremely similar situation with my wife who is very, I mean, for me, I don't want to say she's too open and verbal and quick to do all that stuff because that's not, it's, I think she's doing the right thing the right way, but it's not something that I do that comes easily to me or I am comfortable with.

Her, she's very open like her mom is counselor and stuff. And they had a talking stick that they would, that I've been a part of where you can't talk unless you're holding the talking stick can interrupt and, you know, and I come from a much different situation. And that's why I asked because there I think there are some similarities there. Oh, yeah, for sure. My wife is very clear on how she's feeling and very communicative how she's feeling. Whereas I'm...

Yeah, and they have to bring, they have to dig it out of you, coax it out. It takes me... There's a lot of the word fine is used a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think a lot of that also comes from, my parents are also, my dad is definitely that way. Nothing's wrong.

Everything's fine. You know, like, I didn't, it's never been communicated in my family to this day, but I'm sure my dad has some kind of trauma from running a liquor store and like being robbed and all that kind of stuff, but it's never been spoken about. It's just kind of, oh, he's going to the garage.

Yeah, well, there you go. Have a sip of whiskey. Let's bring it back around to the Johnny Walker Black. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's this therapist. We got it. I remember when I started therapy telling my dad, you should probably go to therapy.

He's like, I'll talk when I need to talk. I'm like, all right, that's what it is. Okay, cool, cool, cool. He said, why I gotta talk to anybody? Yeah, that's that generation probably culturally, you know. And they're first generation, yeah? Or you're first generation. I'm first generation, yeah.

My dad came from India in 79, I think, and my mom arrived in 81. Were they married? No, so- They didn't know each other until they met in America. No, they didn't know each other until here. My mom got married super young when she was 22. And that, she got divorced, I think, when she like. Twenty five, I want to say 26. Is there a lot of divorce in India?

I don't know. I don't know if there's a lot of divorce in India, but I do know that, at least from my parents situation, that divorce was is was a lot very taboo. Yeah, that's I guess that's why I ask. It doesn't seem like culturally, it's got that old school, you don't get divorced. Yeah, my mom's situation is- At least older generations, I guess.

My mom's situation is kind of crazy. I don't know what the correct tense is, but she was married almost like sight unseen kind of thing. Yeah. When my, when her older sister got married, my mom, I think came back to India for the wedding and I should know this because she told me the story not even too long ago. And my grandpa, her dad was like, oh, so you're getting married and this is,

we've already kind of talked about this. Oh my God. And my mom was like, okay. Like almost like- Oh, that's her first mistake. Yeah, I think it was like the same day as my aunt's wedding. And- That's-

It was nuts. It's a crazy thing. My grandpa, for all his positives, was also a very traditional guy. He was a Brahmin priest, which in, I guess, meant something, like in terms of the caste system or whatever. Right. And my mom's darker skin,

so that was always played on my mom's emotions and with my grandma, grandpa, with her and how they treated her. And so they, my biological parents, my mom and dad, my mom and father, they got married, I guess, when they were, my mom's like 22, 23. And then I was born in 86. And I think my mom got divorced shortly thereafter. And then she remarried a few years later to my dad, who was the only father figure I've actually known. And that was, it's her wedding anniversary very soon, so whatever.

A long time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 35 years they've been together. So yeah, I think they, I would call that what year is that? I don't even know. Uh, I know. 90 or something, right? The gift I think for 35 is, I think it's sag paneer. Yeah, they've got plenty.

In Indian, in the Indian custom, you get sag paneer for your 35th. We had our anniversary dinner last night. They came over to hang out with the kid and all that kind of stuff. So my dad had a giant burrito. It's like, this is a big burrito. Yeah, that's how they do it here in New York City. Another sandwich-ish thing. And my mom had some Mexican salad of some sort and a day full of playing with their first grandkid.

Nice. But yeah, no, I don't think, divorce is definitely not an open thing in the Indian community, at least in my Indian community. And so I don't think, I think on this next tour that I'm going on, I'm gonna start talking about it because the families obviously now as a family man, it's starting to

play a lot in my head. Right. You've got about two and a half years, maybe three before you're going to have to answer those questions to, is it a son or daughter? Daughter. Daughter. I was so hoping that my daughter was gay, but I don't think she is. I was just thinking how much easier life would be for her, you know? Being in New York, not, and if we were in, you know, Kansas, no, but being here in Brooklyn, like I was just, cause also I'm very, I don't know if you've thought about this, but I know what shitty people, boys can be and men and just, you know, I don't want her to go through that

stuff. She's how old? Eight. Eight years old. Okay. I don't, I was hoping she might be gay, but I don't think she is. I don't know if nature or nurture plays a bigger role, but if you can nurture it, I'm definitely trying.

My daughter had a very early age to- Well, she's grown up around a lot of lesbian couples and love, a lot of, you know. My sister's gay, and we have several good friends who are gay and they come and they, you know, crash at the house and stuff. And so she, it's not, you know, anything that's abnormal or weird or whatever. And not that that was a conscious effort, like I would. Yeah, I can't mean I also as a as a. Male dad, you know, just being

like when she gets to that age, like I'm going to be. I don't like it. Oh, yeah, I got it. Because guys are shitty. No, yeah, we can be bad people. Single-minded. Liars. Yeah.

Users. Yeah, you've got a few years. You can still put in some work. Yeah. It's going to, you know. You're not sending her to an all-girls school? No. No, she just goes to public school on the street. It's great. It's fucking awesome.

No, in Clinton Hill. Got it. Okay. And, uh, her, her school is great. Um, and she's doing really well and, uh, um, it's very diverse. Like there's just, uh, one thing I've heard from the New York City school system is holidays that I didn't know really existed because there'll be a day off on a Tuesday, a random Tuesday or Wednesday somewhere. So they get the lunar Chinese New Year off and they get Diwali and Ed L. Whatever the Egyptian or Egyptian.

What the fuck's wrong with me? LD. A lot of it, I don't I can't remember, but it's it's. I don't know, a Persian holiday, I don't know what it is, it's like there are all these random things like it. When I was growing know, a Persian holiday? I don't know what it is. But it's like there are all these random things. Like when I was growing up, it was just, you know, Christmas. Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur were not holidays. They were, you would have an excuse if you were Jewish because you had to go to temple.

But it wasn't like here you get it off, you know. But you also get, you know, Chinese folks and, you know, there's Persian holiday and then there's, you know. Is it Neroos? What is it? Neroos? No. Okay.

It's, there's one that starts with a E that I'm like. Eid? Is that it? Is Eid? Eid, is that it? Is Eid? Eid is a Muslim holiday. That's it then. Okay. Yeah. I think that's the start of Ramadan

or the end of Ramadan. Yeah, so all these, do you just, so I've learned, I didn't do a good job of retaining it, but you're like, oh, there's no school on Thursday. Why? You know, there's an Irish kid Thursday. Why? You know, there's an Irish kid who has to sell whatever it is. There's a girl from South Sudan. And so the whole the whole city takes. Yeah,

hell yeah, I'm with it. I'm looking forward to that. I used to live near Clinton Hill. I lived in Fort Greene for a little bit, regrettably moved to downtown Brooklyn. What made you move down there? Well, when we had our kid, I was going through sleep deprivation and we were in this very nice house, but there was a few flaws with it. And I was just fed up and I made an irrational sleep deprived decision to be like, let's get the

hell out of here and move to like a high rise and, and all that. And I will say this. I, I live in a brownstone and the, before that, the last, I don't know, Before that, every place I lived in New York, except for the first year I was here, was varying degrees of apartment building where there was big building, and there's somebody to take your mail, and there's somebody to fix, there's a super, your mail and there's somebody to fix. There's a super and, uh, owning my house is a, I mean, it is. Nonstop pain in the ass stuff.

And there's nobody to call. You just have to figure it out and do it yourself. Everything, literally anything that happens. Um, the only thing we didn't have to worry about was when the, like several years ago, the pipes froze. There was that crazy polar vortex thing and there was like somebody doing construction and they didn't turn the water off or something and the pipes burst and flooded a bunch of houses and you know, they took care of everything, uh, cause they were liable obviously. And outside of that,

everything has been like, you got to deal with everything. Yeah. I mean, we were, we were very fortunate in the house that we lived in. Um, you know, but I didn't, I didn't realize how fortunate we were until leaving it, you know? But what I'm saying is with the, with now that you have a new kid, it's being in a building, it's gonna be just that you can call a super and go,

hey, that's gonna be, that's worth a lot. There's a lot of positives to where we're at. We got a gym in the building is like, was, is life changing for us in the sense like the other gym outside of the house, we're like 15 minute walk, 15 minute walk back. So time wise away from a kid and all that, it's just like a lot that that half hour adds up every day, plus the gym time itself. Whereas now it's just like two seconds upstairs, two seconds downstairs. But I'll never give up space again. We went down in size and like, you know, she, my daughter just started like army crawling. There's only so many times you could like make her do a lap from here to there. And then from here back, we're like, I gotta get a bigger house.

I need more space immediately. I don't know what I gotta do. I'll wait till she's got to run around. Yeah, I don't know what lottery I gotta win. But I'm just, I'm trying to work my ass off to get us a bigger spot, so. But your wife's an attorney, right? No, my wife works in real estate. My sister's an attorney.

Oh, sister's an attorney, right? My wife is a real estate agent in the city. She's been off for a few months obviously now, but hopefully going back to work pretty soon. There's money in that. Oh, no, for sure. But it's going to be a lot more money to get us a bigger spot than where we're at so that my daughter can have some space or like bite the bullet. Yeah, you got a little time. Yeah, bite the bullet and move to some suburb, but I'm trying to avoid that at all costs.

What about Queens? My wife is averse to Astoria or like, I want to move to, if we move to a house, we go to like Forest Hills, but that's also like insanely expensive, right? Everything is just crazy expensive. Well, it's gonna get way cheaper now that Trump's president. You know, you'll pay less for eggs. Yeah, yeah, for sure. That's all we eat. As I understand it. Yeah, that's a terrorist work. I just got back from Canada last night and, you know, I did two weeks there and they

are understandably like pissed off and they, I mean, it's a strong vibe and I went and and you know, there's just like, not at like me individually or you or anybody, you know, but they're, they're like, what the fuck? What, what are you doing? What the fuck are you doing? Did you get did you get a sense of a strong anti Indian sentiment? Not at all. No. Okay, because from all the stuff I see on Reddit, there's a lot of anti-Indian immigrant angst

going on in Canada. No. Okay. I mean, I think maybe if there was, it's completely supplanted by Trump and tariffs. I mean, it're, it's, it's completely, I mean, it's a trade war. The second word is war, you know? And, and they, and people are like, we didn't

ask for this, uh, you know, we've been friends. We've had an open border. We've been friends for 150 years, but you're going to decimate our communities and, and the friendliness is over. We still like the people, but fuck your country. And you know, they're booing the national anthem. And they've got this thing, elbows up, which is, um,

a phrase meaning like in hockey to, to start to fight. And so there's like t-shirts and things, elbows up and Canada is not for sale. And, uh, like a lot, there's a strong, very strong sentiment because you know, any there it's like this unnecessary thing where, where they're like, why are you fucking up our, I mean, okay, you're going to fuck up your economy, but

why are you fucking up our economy? You know? It's, it's, uh, I don't know. I don't know the long game of this guy, nor do I understand. I mean, it's based on, uh, like 19th century economics. The tariffs stop for, I mean, there's, it's, he keeps citing William McKinley, the last president who had tariffs, like the world was a completely different place and operated in a much different way in the late 1800s. I mean, it's, it's, and also let's not forget, he is a phenomenally

accomplished, bad businessman. He, he has gone, he is bankrupted companies, casinos, airlines, his fucking steak thing. He was successfully sued and had to settle because of his, airlines, his fucking steak thing. He was successfully sued and had to settle because of his, uh, Donald Trump university, cause it was a scam and his businesses, even his real estate business, I mean, it totally became president and then it was all, you know, graft and stuff, but, uh, he's a, he's a failed over and oh, Trump cologne, Trump board game. CB I mean, he's a failed businessman and then he's going to apply that to what was the strongest economy on the planet in history when he took office a second time.

I'm going to say that again. The strongest economy in history in this country, right. When he took office. Right. And now it's now we're fighting Canada. And we're fighting Canada. Right. Um, Nimesh. Nimesh.

Nimesh. Yes sir. All right. I fucked it up twice. That's all good. Oh, I, cause I was going to put the accent Nimesh. Nimesh. Yes, sir. All right. I fucked it up twice now. It's all good. I don't care.

Oh, because I was going to put the accent on esh. Nimesh. Yeah. So it's... Nimesh. Nimesh. Yeah. Do you mind if you change the spelling of your word to N-E-E instead of N-I?

I'll do that for you, David. Okay, thank you. David. I end... That'd be what? I'll do that for you, David. Okay. Well, that's in Hebrew. All right. You just made a lot of people speak Spanish and a lot of Jews who are not paying very close attention to go. Okay. I end every podcast with a question from my daughter. And you can feel free to answer this in any way you choose. All right. Why does water

put fire out? Water deprives the fire of oxygen and because fire needs oxygen to continue its chemical process of combustion and water blocks that oxygen, consumes it. And by doing so puts the fire out, I believe. All right. So you're going to qualify it at the end there. Yes. I hope, I hope that's right. Is it? Oh, Chris, can we look that up?

That sounds sorta, I mean it. It scares the fire. It's a bully. Water is a bully. Yeah. Fire hates swimming. That's why. All right, Nimesh, thank you so much for coming down.

Thank you very much for having me. Have a good time in London and in LA. Thank you very much. I'll check out Los Sordids. Oh, next time you go to LA, you gotta go to Pige Palace. Oh, I've been there. Oh, I love it. That's right down the street from Los Sordids. Oh, okay.

Uh, uh, uh, it's, um, they had one of the, like, just such a good idea. And I want to try to make it my own. I don't know how, but they have a, uh, lime chutney, which is one of my favorite things. I fucking love lime chutney. Okay. And I will just, it's's it's one of those like kind of spicy things that I'll just eat and eat and eat because like it's like addictive. They have a lime chutney aioli and it is it's just a flavor. Yeah. It's there's no texture to it outside of aioli. You know, it's like that kind of creamy saucy thing, but it's the flavor of that spicy lime

chai. And I fucking I would just yeah, so Pigea Palace. Pigea Palace. Phenomenal concept. Incredible execution of a Indian American bar fusion food they got like it's weird. It's it's a bit sports barry. It is. It is. Which is weird. Yeah. I mean, the guy is a big sports head of each. She's the owner chef. It doesn't go quite well. Yeah. It's kind of weird how they did it, but people go. I think last time I went was last April, May. They're playing the F1 race.

Yeah. It was packed when I was there. I just got to grab a seat at the bar. Yeah, it's always slammed, but it's so good. They're Malay, I don't know if it's Malay, but whatever their pasta dishes, their dosa onion rings are incredible. Dosa onion rings? It's so good. Oh, shit.

Yeah, they're fucking banging. Have you eaten at the Dosa cart in Washington Square Park? When I went to NYU, we would eat there. Oh yeah, that guy's great. Yeah, yeah. And there's a Dosa place on, if you lived in Fort Greene, there's one on DeKalb. Yeah, Dosa Royale, I think it's called.

I did not go there, but bringing back to Chinale, when my wife and I, a few years ago, we started doing the food crawls and we would go try different foods at different, just like have an app here and app there that get drunk and all that. And Shannali joined us for one of the first ones. And we went to, I think she recommended it,

this South Indian dosa spot on like 21st, like right near here. I forget the name of it's in my phone somewhere, but incredible variety of doses, like every single kind. Yeah. Because they use different grains or different mills of different grains to make their doses. Oh, you mean the actual, the dosa, not the filling, but the actual dosa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The texture and the flavor.

I've only really had the standard. Yeah, yeah, no, there's a lot. Oh, wow. And the fillings are also incredible. But Shanae recommended this one that we went to, and it was, it's all vegetarian food. Right. I highly recommend, it's right around here.

So the 20th and lex or 23 23rd and Lex, not too far. OK, cool. Yeah. Oh, gosh. What were you saying? Not to keep bringing it back to. Oh, have you eaten at Omar's on Vanderbilt? No.

No. OK. I've never heard of it. It's Indian, supposed to be good. It doesn't look like it's going to be that good. And they have Indian pizzas. It's Indian, supposed to be good. It doesn't look like it's going to be that good. And they have Indian pizzas. And I don't know, I was just curious.

No, I've never been there. My go-to order spot is India Table. It's on Court Street in, I guess, Cobble Hill area. But that's a Gowan Indian food. And Gowan is that Southern? Gowan, no, Gowan is a Northwest island off of India. They used to be colonized by the Portuguese. So they got like Portuguese influence in their food,

but it's so good. Yeah, it's really good. Okay, check it out Go it goes usually seafood, right? Yeah, you have like go ish going shrimp. I think they have like they have a lot of lamb dishes from what I recall, but I always get the chicken stuff, chicken, check the knot and all that. But yeah, check it out. Yeah. Neemesh. Yes, sir. Patel. David cross. Thank you. Thank you very much, man. Sense is Working Over Time is a Headgum podcast created and hosted by me, David Cross. The

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