Senses Working Overtime with David Cross - Rachel Kaly
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This is a HeadGum Podcast. I'm gonna take your choice.
Wow, really?
Yeah.
You can have the red chair or the red chair.
Awesome.
All right.
Why not?
Picking it up a little bit.
Should I use a coaster?
Thank you.
Of course.
I mean, if you want.
I mean, that's what it's there for. Right.
But I don't know. This is, you know, it's not... Nothing special.
...coaster reliant. Oh, and there's another one here. Oh, perfect.
Oh my lord. So, apologies in advance, but, um, uh, I didn't get very much sleep last night.
Oh no, I actually didn't either.
Okay, this should be fun then.
Yeah. How does that affect you?
I mean, that's a good question. I'm probably just not as sharp and I haven't really started my day.
Like, I woke up to explain my please.
I. Oh, let me put this on buzz.
I. Thank you.
I got. Emma, do I need a coaster with this?
It's metal. No, I don't. In fact, here's a question.
Do I need a coaster with anything in this room?
No, I doubt that that's what...
It's not what. Your doubt is correct.
I think we established that on the very first episode. So yeah, I was out. Listen, if you have to know, Jesus, Chris, enough.
Always, always asking me about this stuff. Yes, I made my Broadway debut last
night. Yes. No, I'm not kidding. And so certainly not expecting what was to come, I went out and had a few drinks with
Tim Meadows, who's in the cast.
And we go way back.
He's a good egg.
He's a good egg.
And the price of eggs are rising, so that's even more valuable.
And I didn't drink crazy. I had like three, and this will relate to last week's episode, three
juicy hazy IPAs.
Okay.
Okay. And it hasn't aired yet, so you wouldn't be-
Okay. I wouldn't be, I'm not privy to sort of the context.
Yes. Just anybody who's listened consecutively will understand.
So, went home, I didn't get home till like 11.30,
walked in, and my wife I should also say has strep throat, so she's sleeping downstairs.
Okay.
She's, you know, drugged up and out of it.
And I go to walk the dog, come back, I set my backpack down and I've still got
everything on and then my daughter is naked leaning over the railing going, daddy. And that's not
good. No. Yeah, honey. I threw up. No. Okay. And it was like murder scene kind of thing. Like it was just like she had it
all over her and I was like, okay, honey, let's get you bathed. And I got a hot bath going and she's
like shivering and she doesn't have a fever, but she's thrown up everything everywhere.
thrown up everything everywhere. I mean, so I get the sheets,
do not rinse them out well enough,
put them in the washer on the bedding setting, which is wrong.
I should have put sanitize and I was half out of it too.
Then just long story short,
and when I cleaned her up and everything,
I was like, no, you don't have to go to school tomorrow
I put her in our bed and then
15 minutes later she threw up again all over the place and
and it was just that for the rest of night gave her a little pepto threw that up and then I
think I think it ended around four.
So, and then I had to get up and talk to Rachel Clay.
Oh, the most important thing in the world.
Can't miss that.
And so here I am.
How do you feel?
Do you think you're gonna get sick?
I'm a little tired, you know, out of it.
I also have tinnitus.
So it gets a little worse if I'm,
if this, for this kind of condition.
I have that too.
Oh, it's the worst.
Such a pain.
No, it's not the worst.
They're way, actually, I take that back.
It's the way, way worse things.
It's just so annoying.
It is annoying.
Sometimes it grounds me a little bit
because it brings me back to the present.
Oh, interesting.
Because you're like, oh, I'm thinking all this stuff and then you just hear the noise and you're like, oh, here I am in the world.
I've never thought about it like that. I like that.
Just worth a shot, I guess.
That was a good shot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Thank you.
You know the song, Hey Man, Nice Shot by, who is it?
Helmet? No.
Filter, yes, filter.
I don't know that many songs.
So this, you don't know that many songs?
No, I don't.
Well, hang on one sec, let me finish this thought.
I'm gonna get to that.
But this is also a reference to last week's episode.
That was about Bud Dwyer, the state treasurer of Pennsylvania
who called the press conference and shot himself.
I keep hearing about this.
Really?
Yeah, it's come up a couple times.
What circles do you run in?
That's weird.
Just, you know.
You keep hearing about Bud Dwyer.
Normal people talking about.
Who in the 80s.
Shot himself.
Shot himself.
You keep hearing about that.
Yeah, I do.
And what, is this like a book club thing or?
No, it's more just like, I sort of am obsessed with people like shooting themselves.
And I, obsessed is maybe too strong a word, but I'm just like, what a way to go out.
Sure.
And people are like-
Hey man, nice shot.
Yeah.
I hope, well, that's my fear I think is if I ever do it, I'll just do it wrong.
Oh, do it like in a boring, pedestrian way?
Or like miss, and then it's like, well, now I just have like a hole in my head and I can
go to the hospital.
You know what I mean?
I don't think that.
Can you survive a shot to the head?
Sure.
That's what I'm worried about.
If I do it, I'll do it.
But I don't know if you, you mean you get cold feet at the very end but you yet you still pull the trigger because you're a woman of action. Yeah. Okay. So you
could graze yourself you know what you could do is go to shoot yourself. Yeah. Miss hit
a little piece of teleprompter a little piece of glass teeny piece of glass. Yeah. Miss hit a little piece of teleprompter, a little piece of glass, teeny piece of glass.
Yeah. And just graze your ear and then become president of the United States.
Right. And say that you were, you know, it was a bullet that missed me by Jesus,
brought his hand down and redirected the bullet, matrix style, even though it was
clearly from the teleprompter, but yeah.
I can't believe that happened.
Which one?
The one where he got shot in the ear.
He didn't get shot in the ear.
It missed him entirely?
It hit the teleprompter.
It is absolutely, I'm 100%- But what about the blood?
Wasn't there- Yeah, it was from the glass
that sliced his ear.
Oh, I see.
Oh, there'd be so many other signs if a bullet literally grazed him.
Like literally, there'd be all, and there wasn't, and he did not get shot by a bullet.
It was shrapnel and...
Wow.
But everybody, it's a myth.
It's now, you know, in the lore of Americana, just because people chose to believe that and ignore the
obvious.
The Democrats should have campaigned on that a little more, I think.
That would have been great.
Yeah.
It's shrapnel.
Hey, looks like we really dodged a bullet on that one.
Or should I say dodged a piece of glass shrapnel from a teleprompter.
Exactly.
Yep. And wasn't he, didn't he like, make one part of his initial
campaign about making fun of people using the teleprompter?
Wasn't that one of his things back in the first run?
I think so.
Well, I know for Biden, he's just always been like, this guy
can't talk basically.
So maybe it's like, I can do this without a teleprompter, I
feel like was a part of it.
Yeah, but he was using a teleprompter, everybody.
Of course.
Yeah.
In the same way that it's like Obama, he's always golfing.
Stop golfing.
Right.
Then became in four years golfed and took more vacations than any other president, including
presidents that serve two terms and even three terms.
That's incredible.
People are like, sounds good to me.
Yeah, you're right. Stop golfing, Obama.
You can golf, though, Trump.
That's not hypocritical.
No, no.
All right. That's enough about that.
Well, I have one question.
Yes.
It's kind of gossipy.
I don't know if you like that.
I don't, but I don't hate it.
I'm just, excuse me.
It's not my thing.
We can move past it if you don't want to talk about it.
Well, as it, I'm, it's a...
It's out in the public.
Yeah, I don't, it's one of those things like,
my wife likes a bit of gossip
and my cousin is fucking worst.
And like, will text me things like, I don't give a shit.
Yeah.
Why are you bothering me with this?
Yeah, maybe your cousin and your wife should text. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the gossip is just that allegedly
No, no, okay. I would never okay. It's about Obama and Jennifer Aniston. Have you heard this? No
They were like together
What are you what please no, I'm telling you.
First of all, well, I shouldn't say my source, but it's a very reputable source. Someone who
works with him. Okay. And I knew this about two years ago and it's finally out in the public.
Now, I have not heard about this, but I would imagine, and I don't have, I'm not
I have not heard about this, but I would imagine, and I don't have, I'm not on social media, and I don't even hang out on the internet that long, but that seems like something I
would know.
That's one of those things I know.
I know Beyonce won the Grammy for Country album, and everybody was furious.
Not everybody.
Were people upset?
Yeah, some people were.
I know that.
I know, gosh, what else?
Just the things that everybody knows.
So that seems like something I would definitely have heard of.
I feel like it broke recently.
And Chris, feel free to weigh in because you were nodding.
Or I don't know if you're allowed to weigh in.
I don't know if I'm allowed to weigh in either.
You could absolutely weigh in.
Come on, this is a equitable,
I'm all about DEI in this room.
Yeah, no, I've heard that rumor for a while.
How have I not heard this?
And it's just been a rumor.
It's not like it broke on People or something.
So, yes, the reputable People magazine.
Now I think it's out there
All right, so tell me
Tell me what you know what I know is that Barack and Michelle and I am worried about saying this in a public way
I feel like I'll get sniped by their whatever but that's what you wanted, right?
Yes, well, I'd like to be in I guess I want to be myself
Well, you can't snipe yourself. you'd have to have like one of those.
Maybe AI could help with that.
A Rube Goldberg-esque machine to be able to pull the trigger on that.
I just know that they have an open marriage, an open arrangement.
I didn't know that.
This is what I've heard.
Wait, that's common or no?
That's not common.
This is perhaps more like, again, like I'm sort of blowing up my source who is reputable.
You, so far you haven't and you,
you can take it out of the,
you can edit it if you're not comfortable.
No, no, that's fine.
I hope, Brock, if you're listening, I'm sorry.
But also, you know.
He's not listening.
Great.
Well, yeah.
Open marriage, whatever.
I don't care.
Nobody's judging, right?
No, no, no judgment.
So who's Michelle fucking? That's the- I heard her bodyguard. Oh, whatever. I don't care. Nobody's judging right? No, no judgment. So who's Michelle fucking? That's the I heard her bodyguard
Oh, okay, which is awesome because she saw my bodyguard and got all inspired by the yard
No, not my personal bodyguard the movie
Yeah, I guess not no you just know gossip about ex-presidents. Yeah. Wow, and friends, cast members.
Yes.
So when and how did they hook up,
if you know that kind of stuff?
That I don't know, but I heard about it like two years ago.
So this is post-presidency.
Yes.
Oh.
I would say probably during the presidency,
they were together, fully.
Sorry, Barack and Michelle probably had a closed marriage due to the
circumstances. But these are two of the busiest people in the world who travel, you know,
need to get whatever. I would say that perhaps Barack Obama is one of the busiest people in the
world. I don't know if Jennifer Aniston is one of the busiest people.
Oh no, I meant Michelle, but I don't really know
what Michelle's up to either.
Right.
So she's perhaps fucking her bodyguard.
And then Barack and that's that.
I don't know how you avoid that.
I mean, there's no amount of back entrances
and fooling the paps.
I don't know how you get away with that.
I have to imagine they paid everyone off.
Everyone?
Maybe.
Except for your source.
Or traded secrets.
And your source works with, works or worked?
Works for him. Oh, for him in some capacity.
And is this source a personal friend of yours
that you can vouch for?
Yeah.
They're legit.
Yeah.
Wow.
A journalist.
I've said too much.
Okay.
If you want to take something out, you can.
No, no, keep it all, release the tapes.
Then you said just enough.
You haven't said too much.
Yeah.
I think the guideline for editing something out is you've said just enough. Yeah, you haven't said too much. Yeah, I think the guideline for
Editing something out is you've said too much if you said just enough then we can yeah, okay perfect
So that's all I have to offer I guess so that's good. I mean, but it sounds like you haven't
Said anything beyond what apparently you and Chris and many others already know. So that's...
Right. I guess I wish I...
So what's the point? You're just like a Yahoo page at this point.
Well, I guess I'm saying like I knew before a lot of other people, but I'm not...
You're right. I'm not saying anything newsworthy at this point.
So this is really just about validating yourself by saying,
I knew this information before that I didn't know about before everybody else, but Chris obviously knew about.
Yeah, I guess so. I guess you knew too, huh?
Yeah, but not so directly. Just secondhand.
That's even cooler kind of.
No, that's not cooler. Actually, first hand is cooler than secondhand. Secondhand is how now I know it.
Right. Okay, that's nice. So if Chris and I share the same.
I guess third hand maybe.
Third hand, yeah.
Wow.
So first, second, third.
Yeah, you should know, well first, second, third.
You should know, for those of you at home,
we've been pointing to each other.
Um.
All right, so I, I don't know if they explain to you.
I know, I try to know as little as possible about the guests that I don't know if they explained to you. I know I try to know as little as possible
about the guests that I don't know about.
I don't, it's not like I'm pouring over research.
But I know enough to know you're a comedian
in the New York area.
Yes.
How's that going?
Well, I've been in LA a little bit more.
Where are you from originally?
I'm from New York City originally.
From the city?
Yeah.
Okay. What park?
Hell's Kitchen.
Oh, so you've seen a lot of changes.
I really have, although my block hasn't changed at all.
That was my next question was,
when you go back home, is there a home to go back to?
Technically, yes, although, so my dad lives in my childhood apartment.
I don't talk to him, but I see pictures-
Because he won't leave your apartment.
Yeah, I'm like, let's go.
I see, he has a YouTube page, so I see pictures of my apartment on his YouTube page.
Weird.
And it looks the same.
Anyway, and then my mom lives in Chelsea in, well, I shouldn't say where, but she lives
in Chelsea, but I can't go back to her apartment because there's a guy who lives above her
who keeps dropping bowling ball all the time.
Is it because his hands are getting weaker, he's arthritis or he's purposely?
It's possible.
We don't know why he's doing it,
but he does it throughout the day and night.
Maybe he doesn't understand the concept of bowling,
but he likes the idea of bowling.
Yeah.
And he, nobody's, why don't you go up there and say,
hey, it's, you do it this way.
We've tried knocking, he doesn't answer.
Have you tried knocking with a bowling ball?
No.
All right, well.
I'll throw a bowling ball at his door next time.
It is like a building where it's mostly old people.
Yeah.
So I think the we can't idea you have is perhaps correct.
It's too bad you can't swap out the bowling ball with something that's more like cube
shaped or something that won't roll.
So if he drops it, he drops it.
Yeah, the rolling is tough. You know what I mean?
Yeah.
And then the bowling ball has holes in it,
which makes it easier to pick up.
Pick up.
But if it's a thing that drops and just stays there, maybe,
and it's a he?
Or she?
I shouldn't assume, honestly.
The person above your mom.
Yeah.
Now, how come you don't talk to your dad or see your dad?
He is crazy, but he's hilarious. But he's not a good guy.
In what way?
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Maybe we'll edit this out, but we'll see how I feel about it
because I talk about it in
stand-up, but he's a pedophile.
Oh, shit, that's awful.
I know, but it's also like whatever.
There are other things too.
That's sort of like the cherry on top.
Wow.
That's, so if that is the cherry on top, the base, this is, I'm assuming this is an ice
cream sundae analogy.
That ice cream sundae must be amazing.
Yeah, it's a loaded. If that's the cherry.
It's. Bananas, peanuts,
whipped cream, whatever.
They had all kinds of sauces.
Yeah. Wow.
Chocolate, caramel.
And when you say he's a pedophile,
is it, are you saying it like one would say,
describe somebody as an alcoholic where they, Is it, are you saying it like one would say,
describe somebody as an alcoholic where they, if they had, if they've been sober for 10 years,
you'd still say they're an alcoholic.
So is he a practicing pedophile currently?
I don't think he's ever really practiced, although.
Wait, now I'm, now I don't understand at all.
It's sort of a situation of like watching stuff.
Oh, gotcha, gotcha.
In a big way.
Oh man.
But.
And I assume you've addressed this.
With him?
Yeah.
No, he vehemently denies it.
So how do you know?
Because my mom found it.
Oh my God.
And that's why they're split up.
They were already splitting up, or they had already split it. Oh my God. And that's why they're split up. They were already splitting up,
or they had already split up.
That's terrible.
I know, but it's also, you know,
well, whatever, it's fine.
He's fine.
He never did anything really,
but it's not good.
Right, but he's still allowing that thing to continue.
And- Of course.
But all to say, that's not why I stopped talking to him.
I would just say that again, the cherry on top where it's like-
There's a lot of stuff.
Yeah.
And it, and do you have brothers and sisters?
I have a younger sibling who, non-binary.
They, okay.
You know about that?
What? You know about that? That one, that's come up on the-binary. They, okay. You know about that? What?
You know about that?
That's come up on the Yahoo.
Nice.
Good, good.
Yes.
On Yahoo.
What?
He's or she's and she's or he what in the world?
Yeah.
Yeah, I know about that.
That's awesome.
Yeah, younger sibling.
Man, that's, Man, that's, and well, that's great.
I truly mean this, that you are addressing it
in your standup, you should.
It's an amazing- Of course, it's so funny.
Well, that's not necessarily what I meant,
but that's good that you were able to put a funny,
positive spin on it.
People get upset when I talk about it.
Well, they should.
I'm upset a little bit by just, you just hear it
and you, you know, there's like all kinds of stories
about, you know, that happening every two weeks or so,
you get, you know, you read something horrific,
but to sit across from somebody who is the daughter of that,
it has to deal with that,
is like that makes it much more, you know,
present and immediate.
And it's just, that's gotta be,
because it's sickening.
It's such a-
It is.
Sometimes I kind of, I think I have enough distance from it now and I have fun
with it. It was his birthday recently and I texted him and I asked him...
Now wait.
I know we don't talk. We don't talk.
Now listen, wait. No, the first thing... When you said that, my first, you know, cynical comic, it's like, oh, I know what you got
him for Christmas, for his birthday.
Dad, there's a dark web link to, alright, good lord.
Ugh, he's funny.
But I just get the pedophile who has everything.
He has nothing.
He's on Ozempic right now and he's gaining weight.
He's got life all backwards.
Yeah, yeah.
This guy can't catch a break.
But I texted him.
I was like, I haven't talked to him in years and I was like, sometimes I'm like, I should
text him because what if he dies and then it'll feel complicated that I didn't wish
him happy birthday or something.
Oh, fuck that.
I know.
Fuck that.
I know, but I did. And also, is he trying to reach out to you ever? No. Oh, fuck that. I know. Fuck that. I know, but I did.
And also, is he trying to reach out to you ever? No. So fuck him. Fuck that guy.
Well, sometimes he does. Sometimes he does, but when he does, it's usually to tell me I'm like a
bitch or whatever. Fuck him double now.
Of course. But I texted him, I was like, he told me he was watching a Woody Allen movie on his birthday.
How appropriate. I was like, well, do you think you can separate the art from the artist?
I like to kind of play around with him.
He just went on this whole tirade defending Woody Allen and was like,
do you know about the Connecticut court case that ruled in his favor?
Like all this stuff.
Yeah, of course he's.
Yeah.
Oh my Lord.
It was so funny. So I got a kick out of it.
Well, that's good. What does he do for a living or did for a living?
He's a cab driver.
Always since you were a kid?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hailed his cab once. This is my famous story. Not that it's very famous.
That what?
But we were estranged when I was in high school and I hailed his cab.
Oh, weird.
Got into his cab.
Not knowing that that was his cab.
I know. I mean, I hailed it and it was him. And it was like, am I going to get another cab or am I going to get in the cab? So I got in the cab.
Oh my gosh. And he made me pay the fare.
I fucking hate this guy. I really don't like him.
God damn, man. That's, that's, and he has a YouTube page. What's he doing on his YouTube page?
Maybe. Sure. I might.
I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't say no to that.
Yeah, he's funny.
Well, I guess that's his saving grace, right?
Yeah.
Geez.
Well, he learned English from Seinfeld.
What nationality is he?
Moroccan.
Say it again?
Moroccan.
Moroccan.
They rank fairly high in the pedophile world. In Morocco? No, in globally.
Oh, I see. Yeah, I don't know about that, but I'll look into it.
I believe that section of the planet is, you know.
Sure. Middle Eastern,
North African kinda,
there's some stuff going on over there.
Yeah, yeah, I'll look into it.
I'd like to visit so I could ask when I'm there.
Morocco's supposed to be amazing.
I would love to go.
I would love to go.
Yeah, and your mom is?
Ellis Island Jewish type of thing.
Yeah.
Wow, what an awful sense of betrayal too to your mom and you.
Sure.
But I think my mom has a type.
Like, what was she dating now?
Well, there's another guy she dated before my dad who I would say was pedophile adjacent.
That you, have you met him or seen him?
Yeah, weird guy.
Nice guy, but weird.
Yeah, and how did you end up meeting him?
They're still best friends.
Okay, yeah.
Wow.
And he introduced her to my dad.
And your mom's first generation off the boat or?
No, no, my great grandparents were the ones who.
Oh, so she's been here for a while.
Made their way, yeah, she's from Brooklyn.
And where are your great, do you say great or great-great?
Great grandparents.
Yeah, where are they from?
Like Lithuania or something?
Random?
Yeah. Wow.
Where are you from?
I'm from Atlanta. The short answer is Roswell, Georgia. But the longer answer is I
was born in Atlanta, moved every year constantly all over the place, then moved back to
Roswell when I was nine and then was there for 10 years and then left. But my family is still there. I have one
sister in North Carolina, but everybody else is still in Atlanta.
I've been to Atlanta twice. Both times I got food poisoning.
That's the Atlanta promise.
Actually, actually, I stayed two nights. First night I was sick, second night I went to that
strip club. That's awesome.
Well, they're known for the strip clubs. The one with the tenured.
I'm going like this because they have huge tits.
Claremont, yeah.
Blondie.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm air quote friendly with Blondie.
Really?
Yeah, I did a, I had been, for those who don't know,
and I think most people will know, Claremont Lounge is now
it's internationally famous.
It was around for a long time, but it was known for, it's right on Ponce.
It's like right in midtown, Ponce de Leon. and older, super sassy, and not empirically attractive strippers. Cheap PBR, like when I
was in high school, 18, 19, 20 when we'd go down there, before it was like hipster discovered.
I think it was literally like a dollar a beer, two dollars a beer maybe.
And it was more of a bar than a strip club. Everybody should know that. Yeah.
That was just sort of this thing that happened around you. But, and it was at the base of the
Claremont Hotel, which is now all fancy. But back then it was like a flop house. My best friend,
grown up, him and his brother at a place there and found a rat
They were on like the fourth floor and they found a rat in their toilet
That's how drowned no alive just swimming around
And they were on like the fourth floor because there aren't supposed to be rats up there
I just that's a that's a good rat. Yeah, yeah
Through the pipes. Took that elevator, maybe.
And then it got kind of, then it was like, you know, discovered by the cool kids.
And that's really where I came into it too.
I never went there as like a regular before it was hit, but then I heard about it, and it was awesome.
But now it's like a tourist thing.
It's really, and they've changed everything.
Anyway, Blondie is still there, and she's-
She's the one with huge tits, right?
Yeah, and she'll crush the beer can.
That was awesome.
Yeah, she's, and then what she'll do also,
and I've had this done to me, she will put your head, and then the, what she'll do also, and I've had this done to me,
she will put your head, anybody, whoever,
she'll take the tips and she'll put your head
in between her tits and then beat the,
she'll pound and it hurts.
Like she is getting out some shit.
Wait, sorry, she does it on the side of her own tits.
On the side of her tits, yeah.
But you're feeling the impact.
Oh, very much so.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're feeling the impact. Oh, very much so.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, she would be furious if I said this, but I'm guessing she's 50?
Sure.
You know?
Yeah.
She was incredible.
She's incredible. She's amazing and she's, you know, I did a whole, I did this segment about her for Vice
TV long, long time ago because I had a, you know, I sort of knew who, you know, we knew
each other but she's also, you know, a little nuts and would call me at four in the morning and with,
you know, with nothing to say and like just and also like, you know, when you are on either
end of you've had a conversation in your head or somebody's had a conversation your head then they turn to you
Mm-hmm, or you turn to somebody and go
Oh, that's that's why I don't want chicken nuggets. Yeah, what? Yeah. Oh, sorry. I was just no
I thought we were talking about lunch earlier and I thought I thought I was talking to you
But I was talking she has it's a lot of that
Where there's conversations in her head and then she's telling you something, you're like,
what, and at four in the morning, like, yeah, well, you know,
I would just tell him that, you know,
baby, it's time to go, whatever.
Does she know about voice notes?
Oh, I have not talked to her since I've moved to Brooklyn,
which was was what?
15 years ago.
OK, so it's been a while.
Well, she seems to be doing well.
Based on what I saw.
No, she's I mean, you know, she's
she's certainly a really interesting...
And if she's in the right headspace, really cool to talk to.
Yeah. That's nice.
Yeah. There's a lot of different...
She's first tier level of those,
but there was a stripper named Cinderella, I think her name was.
Oh, this is a true story, 100% true. So when I was, I'm gonna say 19, 18 or 19,
I was there with my friend Craig,
and Craig and I were sitting down there,
this is kind of before it's getting discovered,
and it's just a place to go with cheap beer,
and kind of like a day drinking thing, whatever.
And we're there and our waitress is,
I mean, I'm gonna guess eight months pregnant,
like visibly with like a half shirt,
but it's only a half shirt because her belly's sticking out.
You know what I mean?
And she was younger.
She was definitely, she was definitely,
she was a waitress, so most of the strippers are older.
Not all of them, but they're, you know.
I got a private dance there from a young stripper.
Okay, all right.
Anyway.
There's no privacy, where'd you go?
No, they did it, it was a, someone, just quickly,
I walked in at 2 a.m. with my backpack on,
because I was coming from a show and
People thought I was like a high schooler and this guy was like that's so funny
There's like a high schooler in here. I was like no like I'm in my 20s
He's like I'm gonna get you a dance
And so he bought me a dance the woman was fully naked which I didn't really know about
Mm-hmm, like I thought you had well, whatever Every state has a different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's different rules.
And she did it in front of everyone at the bar.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
There's no VIP room, there's no room anywhere to go.
So when you said private thing, I was like, well.
But she was like doing like crazy stuff to me and everyone was just watching.
Anyway.
Yeah.
It was interesting.
I think they have a higher quality of talent there now.
Now that it's like, you'll see Japanese businessmen there and it's like in the Time Out guide to Atlanta.
Where to get hard.
Yeah, Prague version.
Yeah.
But go on, you're with Craig.
So the waitress, like again, just about ready to pop.
I think we get a couple rounds and super sweet, southern younger girl.
And then at some point she's like, oh, excuse me.
And we're kind of at the bar.
You know how there is that like kind of little like
horseshoe thing, right?
So she gets, she's like, excuse me,
gives us our drinks and then goes,
proceeds to go up and strip.
No way.
Yeah, there weren't a lot of people there.
Probably like, I'm gonna guess 10 people
scattered around tops.
And we were like, wow.
Whoa.
Full on pregnant and I mean full on pregnant
and then stripping and then getting back in her clothes
to serve more beers.
Yeah.
Incredible.
Yeah, that was the, that's Claremont.
I took a burlesque class once
because I wanted to try to be confident in my body, but it
made it worse, obviously.
What made it worse?
Well, burlesque is a lot of props.
Yeah.
Sure.
So you have to have a fan and gloves, and that just really made it worse for me.
Gloves.
Yeah, they really focused on the gloves.
Gloves.
So you're not good at glove work.
I don't know if I'm good at it or not, but I don't like it.
And what is it, is it this thing where you take your teeth
and you do one finger at a time?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Take your teeth on your hand, you pull off the glove,
you take off your feather cap or whatever.
I mean, this was a very particular burlesque class, I guess,
where we're dressed to the nines. And then nipple tassels, kind of the whole thing.
Yeah.
It was like a month long course.
Wow. And like pre-Rachel, post-Rachel, is there a difference in your burlesque abilities?
I know how to dance a certain way to make my boobs move a certain way.
Oh, okay.
So that's a fun trick.
Okay.
On a date, maybe a third date, maybe a first date.
It depends.
Sure.
I mean, some people connect right away.
Yeah.
Are you a app dater?
I have been immensely, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's something that is so foreign to me.
It's horrible.
In my generation.
And I, you know, there's a,
now why do you say it's horrible? Let's.
I think it's like, I mean, a lot of it is just like, I think it gives people the mindset that like,
you can always find someone better. Sure. Kind of. It's like shop, it's like online shopping.
Oh yeah, I never thought about that. It's like having a hundred tabs open.
And you never have to, you're just like, oh, I'm gonna actually try that one on. Well, is it, okay, but what if it's just about hooking up?
Is that still a plier or is it looking for love?
I guess I'm always looking for love.
Right.
Sometimes, sometimes I'm not.
Yeah.
But mostly I am.
That's interesting and you recognize that flaw in it, that it's, oh, there's somebody
better, there's somebody better.
And it's like who can curate their profile the best, and it doesn't actually necessarily
like reflect anything, but there's an algorithm.
Is a profile a limited amount of characters and stuff?
Limited amount of pictures and kind of like prompts and whatever, but then like,
I think the algorithm recognizes what's like a cool aesthetic
and so those people get more.
I mean, I'm just pissed
because I think I maybe don't have a good profile.
No, it's like a burlesque class.
Did you put that into your profile?
No, I think that would knock me down a peg.
That you should lead with that.
Yeah.
And then next is my dad is a pedophile, right?
And then after that, I'd like to shoot myself in the head.
I think you're going to get some top talent.
Yeah.
I'll give it a shot and I'll tell you.
I want to let everybody know.
We're talking to Rachel Clay.
Can I correct you?
Yep.
Collie.
Collie. Collie? correct you? Yep, Clay. Collie. What?
Collie.
Collie?
I know.
Oh, okay.
No one knows anything about my name.
But it's spelled K-L-A-Y?
K-A-L-Y.
Oh, I just misread it.
Perhaps, perhaps it was a typo
and you read it correctly, but there was a typo.
Hi, let me see.
I don't wanna blame anyone.
I'm thinking my brain made like a little, you know, just saw it and auto correct
as it were.
Yeah.
I'll tell you right now, wait a second, let me look at my calendar.
And even if you knew the right spelling.
No, K-A-A-L, that was me.
I messed it up.
Well, it's no worries.
Rachel Colley.
There we go. And why am I always going to say this? Because, oh. That's me. I messed it up. Well, it's no worries. Rachel Kali.
There we go.
Why am I going to say this?
Because, oh, what apps are you on?
Well, right now I'm taking a break from the apps.
Okay.
But I was on Hinge.
I was on Tinder.
Look for Rachel Kali on Hinge and Tinder after a brief hiatus.
Yes. I think they might still be active, but I just deleted the apps.
Right. So you got Burlesque going. She knows how to move her, I'm going to say boobs, because that's what you said.
Yeah.
Even though you said tits earlier.
Yeah.
When there's somebody else's, their tits, when they're yours, their boobs.
Yeah. and they're yours, they're boo, okay. So, because I'm speaking, so her tits, I can say that,
has a dance that she can...
Clockwise, counterclockwise, left, right.
Both at the same time, right?
Well, okay, I'm not gonna show, obviously,
but I'm just gonna, if you're watching,
do you put it on YouTube?
I do.
Okay, so I can do like that, I can do like, so I can do like that, I can do like that,
I can do like that, I can do like that.
That seems really hard to me.
It's just gravity really.
I don't know, like yeah.
It's quite simple.
Really?
Is it like hula hooping or belly dancing?
A bit, it's just about how you move your, I mean, it's really actually not very sexy because I'm like you're kind of just
anyway, um
But I mean and you I mean
Use it while you can because sex robots are right around the corner. I know they're gonna be able to do all that shit. Yeah
and they're gonna be able to do all that shit. Yeah.
Rachel Callie, sorry.
And do you have any dates or anything you wanna plug?
It's interesting.
It's actually maybe the worst time for me to do this
because I have nothing to plug.
That's all right.
But in about six to nine months,
there will be stuff to plug.
Well, that's, I think you're asking a lot of my audience
to remember.
In about, just put, if you're listening right now, put a reminder or alert.
Yeah, put an alert.
Take Google Rachel Colleen now.
Six to nine months from now.
Yeah.
Okay.
I want to go back to the food poisoning.
So where'd you eat that you got food poisoning?
Twice.
So one was I actually, I used to be too scared to fly.
So I was taking a bus back from Denver to New York.
By the way of the South.
I know it was horrible.
I got mugged.
Oh God, I wanna hear about this,
but why too scared to fly?
Just that it was a-
You know what it is?
No.
And I hate, I keep bringing the mood down,
pedophilia, whatever, but I saw 9-11 happen.
I was, my school was very close and it ruined my life.
Sure, I understand. Briefly.
But I was like, there's no way it's not happening again,
to me.
Yeah, after 9-11, I was like,
I'm not going into the World Trade Center.
No, totally.
I'm neither tower.
That is not for me.
Nope, not anymore.
I get that.
That's smart.
But that's why I wasn't flying.
Too soon?
No, no.
Okay.
Oh, so the night before I had been in Nashville
and I was staying at this girl's house
who I knew in college and she was a self-proclaimed pop star
and she lived in a mansion that her parents bought her.
Oh no.
And we were supposed to get dinner,
but she said she was at the studio,
which I don't know if that, I just,
she's never put out a song. So I'm like, maybe she was at the studio, maybe I don't know if that, I just, she's never put out a song.
So I'm like, maybe she was at the studio.
Maybe she wasn't.
But so she, I didn't know where to get food.
And she was like, help yourself to my stuff in my fridge.
And all that she had in her fridge were raspberries.
So I ate them, but I didn't wash them.
It's a little listerium.
I got major food poisoning on the bus to Atlanta and then had it
in Atlanta. And then I think the other time I had gotten food poisoning at the airport. So I
shouldn't blame Atlanta. Right. I just experienced it there. Blame the mayor though in his
administration. Yeah. Oh, it could have been, surely frankly, it could have been her.
When was this?
2016.
Yeah, so that was a lady.
I also got food poisoning, not on a bus, but on a train.
Amtrak?
Yep, going to Atlanta from Boston.
Did you have a sleeper car?
No, no, no.
This was, I went from Boston to New York
and then took whatever train it was.
I remember one thing about it was that my,
I remember I had cheddar cheese powder flavored
sesame sticks.
And the car was like an older car
where there's like a lot of like wood,
more wood than you'd ever seen now.
I don't remember which line it was,
but I mean, I was thrown up all over the place
and the train never stopped shaking.
Yeah, yeah, never stopped shaking. It was awful. And I looked like when all over the place. And the train never stopped shaking. Yeah, yeah, never stopped shaking.
It was awful.
And I looked like when I got the train
and there's vomit all over me and I don't have,
and my mom was just like, oh my God.
And it's like, I was just gray and it was pretty brutal.
Yeah, Amtrak is, on this trip,
I took the train to Denver and then buses back.
So I've taken the train from New York to Denver.
And that is that's so I mean, I understand.
I mean, well, it made me after that, I was like, I'm taking a plane.
And so what was that first experience like of getting back on the plane?
It was scary, but I take Klonopin when I fly.
My sister has a It was scary, but I take Klonopin when I fly.
My sister has a, not because of 9-11,
it was, this is going way back,
she just has a terrible fear of flying
that she knows is irrational.
She's completely aware of it and is better,
and she flies a lot, you know, and is better at it, but taking off and landing
is, she's terrified and she takes Klonopin as well.
That is, it's interesting,
cause I know taking off and landing
is technically the most dangerous part of flying.
Right.
But it's actually the most soothing part to me.
Really?
I'm always worried about just dropping out of the air.
And a terrorist.
Yeah, yeah.
Anyway.
And your dad's from Morocco.
Interesting.
Terrorist adjacent.
Yeah.
Well, my full last name is Bin Khalifa,
which means son of the caliphate.
Oh, wow.
So that's tough when you're flying.
They don't like that.
Oh, that's amazing.
Yeah.
Have you ever just, hi, I'm Rachel, son of the caliphate.
I would love to change my name back.
Like, I'm kind of pissed that my dad changed our name to Collie.
He changed it to Collie, well, it's understandable.
Of course.
I'll give him that.
He became a citizen in 2003.
He's so funny.
But he's just like, he was doing whatever.
Yeah, he's a weird guy.
But yes, he changed our name before he applied for citizenship.
Sure.
It makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, I makes sense. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't, I don't, I know my name.
I, nah, I'm not gonna get into that. Are you sure?
Am I sure about not getting into it?
Yeah.
It's, yeah, not because it's embarrassing,
it's just sort of boring and long shit about my last name.
Are you Jewish?
Brought up Jewish, I got bar mitzvah and all that shit,
but early on I was like, you know.
Not for you.
Not just not for me, just like, this is bullshit.
Like, right?
Like religion in general?
Well, I guess, yes, but also specifically, you know, new and Old Testament based teachings
are just, they're all ridiculous. Have you read the Bible or started to?
I can't say that I have. I mean, I was bought mitzvahed and I read my Torah portion, which
was just about like counting people in a village, which I'm like, that's interesting.
Just counting like a census thing?
Yeah, it was like a census. And I just think that that's funny. Like counting up Jews basically.
I remember my Haptura.
What was it?
It was God, we just I talked about this with Nick, I think.
This is crazy.
My Haptura was, I can't remember who was talking to God, or he was
going to smite a village.
And the, I don't know if it's Abraham,
or I can't remember who it was,
but he was in a very Jewish way to,
if there are a thousand, if there's 10,000 people
and a thousand of them are innocent,
would you still kill them?
It was like, no, I would not.
What if there were 500?
I would not, you know, when it goes down to one,
what if there was one innocent person?
Would you still smite the village?
He said no, and then God decides not to smite the village.
Classic.
But to kind of, he was annoyed at this guy,
kind of losing the argument, the debate,
so he gave him a really tiny penis.
You're kidding. That's in the Torah?
Yes. It's not. I didn't make that up.
I would believe that.
But see, it says something that you believed it.
Of course.
No, I read, I don't remember which translation, it was something that was a little easier to read,
but I read the first, I read Genesis.
You don't even have to go past Genesis.
Genesis is the most insane.
Is that Old Testament?
Yeah, yeah.
I just learned about Old and New Testament.
I've heard about it,
but I don't think I ever sunk my teeth into what it means.
That like-
The Old Testament is pre-Jesus.
I have no idea.
The New Testament is the Gospels, you know, Mark, Luke, Sandy, and Trayvon.
Those are the four apostles who wrote about Jesus.
They didn't write, because they didn't know how to write.
Right.
So they told these stories orally, and some people wrote little bits and pieces of them
down.
Then, some of these things were, and also memories, were written down as the Gospels,
according to Luke and John, you know. And those were written 30 to 90 years after the apostle died.
So, not-
The apostle meaning the person whose book it is.
Yes. So, not-
Why would it take so long? The postal meaning the person whose book it is. Yes. So not-
Why would it take so long?
Because a lot of people didn't know how to write
and these were all stories that,
I have a whole bit about that.
Very famous bit.
It's probably one of the best bits ever
in the history of stand-up comedy.
I'll have to Google it.
It goes back.
Or I could watch it now.
You could, I guess.
I don't know which special it's from,
but I gotta blow my nose.
I'm getting like all,
hang on one second.
Did you use the whole wad for that?
Yeah. Wow.
Oh, there was a lot.
I ran out of the house.
I woke up.
You could have canceled it on me, just so you know. Yes. Well, I appreciate that. And I, and I considered it, but
no, I, I was like, I gotta do this. And I, and I told my wife,
my wife said cancel. And I was like, I'll do this. I'll take a
nap when I get home. But, um,
Oh, that poor kid. The whole, what was admirable about it was there was no freak out at all.
It was just like, like, I threw up and she kept throwing up and she, but there was no
like what's happening to me or none of that.
Yeah, yeah.
She was resigned to it.
She was and, and-
There's a wisdom to that.
There is a maturity that-
Yeah.
And she doesn't get like throw up sick a lot.
I mean, I can count on one hand in her life that she's had that, but it was like something,
she didn't have a fever, but something, you know, it's not norovirus because that has all these
other symptoms that she didn't have and she just
was at a loss, like why is this happening?
I don't get, you know.
How old is she?
She is seven, she'll be eight in a couple weeks.
Amazing.
So I appreciated her kind of no drama to it just like, you know, which is a it's a good character trait to have, I guess, like, well, I'm sick, and I'll deal with this now.
And instead of being all, you know, oh, what am I to do?
That would be awesome. She said that.
That would be awesome if she said that.
She's now reached the age where all those funny things
that are adult-like that kids say, and every kid, every culture, every kid, everywhere has that era,
it's like from three to six, where they say things that children don't say,
and adult, and you're like, what,
where did you get that from?
Really funny, really funny, or, you know,
Sally and oppression, or whatever the thing
that they say is.
But she's kind of, now she's, as she's getting to be
a person right like
You don't really have those anymore, but or if you do it's it becomes your personality
well, I mean the the
She's exposed to so much yeah to especially living in Brooklyn and
and
and also with all the shit that's available on TV.
Like I don't even know half the stuff that she's accessing.
You know, we don't, she's not on the internet. We don't have that.
But so the phrases that she'd say that if she was five would be like,
what in the? You know, there's less of that because it's like,
oh, you've heard that in class
or you heard that on TV or whatever.
I was a teacher for a while.
Where are you?
Around that age, like four to six,
sometimes seven, depending on.
So like kindergarten?
Yeah, kindergarten and first grade.
And pre-K, they sort of threw me around.
Where did you teach?
It was a private school in the West Village.
Oh, fancy.
Yeah.
Did any celebrities, kids, tons, yeah?
So many.
And were they, did you find that you had a
a judgment, pre-judgment of them
that you tried to get past?
Like just because I don't respect your mother and father,
I've got to give you the benefit of that.
I definitely, I really tried not to, but it is hard.
Yeah, sure.
It's like, oh, you're this person's kid?
And you kind of see how they treat other kids or like what they're expecting and you're like,
oh, yeah, yeah. There were some, but mostly-
So you did experience a, like, oh, that makes sense.
You act like this and you're this person's kid.
Yeah, and it was interesting
because the parents were often very involved
and then you kind of like-
Very involved or?
Involved.
And you meet these like celebrities
in the context of being parents
and then you have judgments about that. I wish I could say names, but I can't.
Anyway, all to say I was a teacher for kids that age and they would say really funny stuff.
And I feel like I was often, not often, but I sometimes was goading them to say, I was like,
what are you going to say if I bring this up?
Right.
That's kind of part of the fun I would think.
Are you certified?
No.
So how does that work?
I was in an assistant position.
My job was actually mostly about discipline.
I was the disciplinarian.
But it's like they kind of put you
through their own training process.
We did a lot of workshops and whatever.
So I actually think I'm good
with kids.
So this is something that, I mean, you had to have had an interest in and perhaps I'll
do this in the future.
Yeah. I loved it. I really enjoyed it. And I'm always like, if this stuff doesn't work
out or if I don't want to do it anymore, I'll become a teacher.
And where are you in your comedy career?
Here's what I'd say.
I'm doing okay.
I mean, I write on TV shows.
I'm gonna be in one this year.
So it's like, I think in the next year,
I'll have a little bit more,
but I'm like working regularly, which is nice.
And I feel lucky.
Are you doing clubs and stuff?
I don't do clubs as much.
I would like to.
I think my material, well, I shouldn't blame my material.
I just don't really do clubs.
Okay.
But I'm like.
But you say you'd like to, so.
Yeah, I just haven't really tried.
I do like, you know, Union Hall, Bell House when I'm here.
Then in LA, it's like the Elysian, like whatever.
For making money, if you're gonna tour, where would you play?
When I've toured I usually do kind of like, I mean I don't do clubs, I do like venues that are often like kind of DIY, whatever. But I've like, I was touring with someone
who did some clubs, but it was mostly like rock venues.
That's how I, I mean, I did clubs when I started.
I started when I was, you know, relatively young
in this, you know, in comedy.
And did clubs, because that's where you played,
and did that a lot until I decided, you know, fuck this.
It's not, you know, I don't do that well in clubs.
I'll take the money and I'll take the gigs
and I'll do my material.
But, and then I did a tour
where I had a band open up for me.
And then we did music venues and it was fucking awesome. And then you dictate everything.
You've got, you know, and the,
there are several downsides to a club,
but one of them is, you know, you've got no control.
You've got, if you want to go over 45 minutes in the second show Saturday, you can't.
No.
There's no...
Right.
You got to do that and then you, you know, they're dropping checks in the middle of your
closing bit and all that stuff.
Yeah.
And you got to deal with annoying owners and the comedy condo.
Yeah, they really swarm.
Do you ever stay in a comedy condo?
What is a comedy condo?
Sounds scary.
You kids today, you kids.
The comedy condo is the place,
sometimes it wasn't a condo,
but it was the place that the club had
that was where all the comics stayed.
And then there was a hierarchy.
Oh, okay, interesting.
So the headliner got the good room, middle act,
you know, feature act is the next best.
And then it just sort of shook out that way.
And it was part of paying your dues.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it was-
Comedy condo.
Oh yeah, it was-
Incredible. I wish that was still around. Oh yeah. Incredible. Yeah.
I wish that was still around.
Trust me.
There's one venue and-
Trust me.
Really?
Yeah.
It depends on who you're working with.
I didn't work with, outside of maybe one or two,
one or two weeks at various clubs, maybe more than that.
Yeah, it's probably not fair, but I'd say certainly
well over half of them were with fucking douchey,
road hack people who were.
Yeah, it's interesting though, like gamut of people
who tore and what's going on with them.
But yeah, I don't, I wanna-
That's kind of why I asked, that was the reason why,
like, you know, where are you and what are you doing?
Yeah.
I wanna tour more.
It's fun when I've done it.
But I've, I started doing standup,
I'm not saying I was good at it,
but I started when I was nine.
Wow. I know.
Nine, where do you-
Gotham Comedy Club down the street.
No shit, like a legit club. They have a kids' troupe. Wow. I know. Nine? Where do you... Gotham Comedy Club down the street.
No shit! Like a legit club.
They have a kids' troupe.
Oh, that's cool. That's smart. I like that.
It was, but it was also like just the worst.
I mean...
No, I don't think you can say you...
Well...
Well, I can show you tapes. I have... all my sets were taped.
I love that.
And I was like, my mom is crazy.
She steals forks from McDonald's.
We have no money.
You know, like whatever.
It was joke.
I was making jokes, but it wasn't good.
And I was, when I first started out,
I was copying other people's.
Everyone does.
Yeah.
Pretty much.
I was like, I think I was obsessed with
Dimitri Martin at the time. And I was telling his jokes. Yeah. Pretty much. I was like, I think I was obsessed with Dimitri Martin at the time.
And I was telling his jokes.
Yeah.
And we had these like coaches,
we had to do workshops with professional comedians
who would give us tips and stuff.
Professional comedians.
Who now?
That should be in air quotes.
Very much so, yeah.
Who were some of the professional comedians?
I wish I could tell you their names, but I can't.
I can't, but this one guy was like,
that's Demetri Martin's joke.
And I was like, no, it's not.
And I have that on tape of him being like, it is.
No, it's not.
I was like, oh, I guess I wrote it too
about like the most like absurd conceptual, like. Yeah, when I was like, oh, I guess I wrote it too about like the most like absurd conceptual like yeah
Yeah
But yeah, I did brunch shows every month or so for about nine years brunch shows
Yeah, like they do it was like the Sunday at 2 p.m. Show at Gotham
for kids
Well, it was like a kid troop, but anyone could come.
I mean, often it was-
I'm surprised your dad wasn't part of that.
I know, I know.
I mean, he dropped in every now and then, you know?
Of course he did.
To take stock.
But,
but it was, it was, that was my training ground.
That's really interesting.
Yeah.
I'm always fascinated, maybe unduly, but I'm fascinated with kids who grew up in the city,
because when I was a kid, I knew early, early on, I was not meant to be wherever I was. And I was meant to be in either a big city
or New York specifically.
And I knew that as a really young age.
And my conception of what being a city kid
was way off, because pretty much, and I feel the exact same way about people who grew up
in Hollywood, you know, like kid actors, are just some of the most grounded, like legit, ethical people I know.
Like, specifically with like Hollywood,
I'm married to a woman who was a child actress.
I know tons of them, born and raised in LA, Hollywood,
and they're just the most decent, down to earth, unaffected people.
It's the people that move there who are like, I'm going to be famous.
They're the assholes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like there's a little bit of that in New York too.
Most of the people that I know who grew up in the city are just totally chill, good,
decent people.
Although I've made the observation that,
and I find this obnoxious, that New York City,
people who grew up in New York are the only people
who ever say, will preface a sentence with,
well, I'm from New York, so, and nobody does like, you know, I'm from Boston, so.
Well, I'm from Atlanta, so I'm from San Francisco.
What do they usually say after?
Whatever, it's some sort of like, they're above it,
they're experienced, they don't see it the same way,
whatever the thing is.
Yeah.
Like you'll hear that, not a lot, but occasionally.
I must be. I often, when I'm guilty of that. Not a lot, but occasionally.
I must be.
I often, when I, I'm living in LA now more or less, and I always am like, I'm from New
York so I don't know how to drive.
Is that okay?
It's all okay.
It's not, not okay.
I just, it's something that only New Yorkers will preface like, well, I'm from New York,
so I know what a bagel is or whatever
fucking annoying thing. Yeah, I do. I think I have that a little bit. I'm very much someone who's
like, I mean, when I'm in LA, I'm like, LA is not a city. Don't you think?
No, I think it's a city. I think it's a poorly planned, not good city, but it is a city.
Sure. Yeah. That's maybe the thing where I'm like, I'm from New York, so I know what a city is.
LA is not a city. Well, you're talking about density and the planning of New York City is much
smarter. It's on a grid. It's got a finite amount of burrows. It's not like
all of a sudden, it's going to be, hey, Westchester is now part of New York City. But in LA, it's
just like, wait, Hawthorne? Where am I going?
Yeah.
But, so where in LA do you live?
Right now, Echo Park.
Oh, I love Echo Park.
Yeah, it's really nice.
I lived in LA for nine years, nine and a half years, and I just lived in Los Feliz and Silver
Lake the entire time.
Perfect.
Yeah, it was great.
And I rode my bike around a lot.
I tried riding my bike and it went really poorly.
It's not a very bike friendly city at all.
And I walk a lot.
When I'm not working, I often walk from Echo Park to Beverly Hills because I love the Grove.
Wow.
That's because you what?
I love the Grove.
Okay.
Sure.
I like the Grove.
It's fun.
Yeah.
It's nice.
Actually, I don't like the Grove.
I like the farmer's market.
I do. I think that's a really good, cool place.
And I used to go and, you know, write there
and have lunch there and continue writing.
It was nice.
Yeah, I like the farmer's market.
But the Grove is kind of a nice thing to have there.
You know, I don't know that I'd walk 10 miles to it, but.
I'm really into walking.
Me too, and I walk a lot and I'd say almost every visit,
almost every one at some point I'll have to do,
and I don't go unless I have to go.
But if I go, it's usually like press or work.
And like there's a hotel I'll stay at
that's centrally located on Vine and Argyle.
And you can pretty much walk to a whole bunch of places
that you have to go through,
but you have to walk through Hollywood Boulevard
and all that shit.
And I'll go do somebody's podcast or whatever.
And when I explain, when I get in there
and I explain that I walked, it doesn't compute.
Yeah.
It's like a computer malfunction.
Yeah, people will like pull up to me on the street
and be like, are you okay?
If I'm walking, I mean, cause there are stretches
where it's like, you probably shouldn't be walking there. It's like full, I've ended up on the street and be like, are you okay? If I'm walking, I mean, cause there are stretches where it's like, you probably shouldn't be walking there.
It's like full, I've ended up on the side
of the highway before.
Yeah.
That's not good.
That's not good.
But I'm okay, I was fine.
All right, good.
I'm glad to hear it.
Yeah.
Rachel, thank you so much for coming on the show.
It was a blast.
It was a pleasure to meet you.
You're fascinating.
Thank you.
And I want to see your stand up now.
Now I end every show with a question from my daughter.
And this is, I'm running out of questions.
I need more questions, but this is,
okay, so Rachel Callie asked for her by name.
This is the question from my daughter, seven.
When tornadoes are made, how does the bottom part lift up?
That's like the hole?
Well, I think there's a funnel. So the bottom part would be where it's most tapered,
but it does lift up.
If you watch old, you know, watch old,
just watch old timey tornado videos.
Oh, if you watch videos or whatever, You know, watch old, just watch old timey tornado videos.
Oh, if you watch videos or whatever, you'll see the spout and then it sort of lifts up
a little bit.
How does the bottom part lift up is what Marla would like to know.
If you want something bad enough, you'll make it happen.
And I think that tornadoes want to lift up a house.
And so it does.
Wow.
I like that answer.
I can't say that I'm fond of all the answers I get,
but that's a good one.
Really?
I like it.
Thank you.
I like it.
OK.
Rachel Callie, thanks for coming on the show.
Thanks for having me.
Feel better.
Or get a good nap.
Oh, and I, thank you.
And we're gonna have to cut out the name of the show
she's doing, but oh boy, it's a good one.
When you see Rachel Callie on this show, watch that show.
Thank you, I hope so.
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