Senses Working Overtime with David Cross - Shane Torres

Episode Date: May 2, 2024

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the the seat yeah the chair The seat? Yeah, the seat. The chair. They're all seats. How you doing? Not so bad, man. Happy to be home. Where were you? Just out on the road a bunch, yeah.

Where were you playing? Just got back from Acme at Minneapolis, so. Oh yeah, nice. That was great, yeah. What about you, you been out or what have you been doing? No, I was, you know, I finished the tour and I didn't mean to, I just noticed when I raised my, it was an odd timing.

I finished the tour, I was saluting somebody out. You're saluting them for all these years? Yes. When you say good night, you bow, like even at dinner. Yeah. Like curtsy. Yeah. I finished my tour.

Thank you all so much for coming. And then took two months off. And then. Good relief. Yeah, it was great. And, you know, it's hung out with the family and, uh, and then, uh, started, you know, the shooting the shit. Oh, that the UH, that, uh, in mid January, I guess.

And, uh, and I'm actually doing the Sultan Room on Monday. I'm shifting into phase two. Oh, phase two. Officially going to phase two. Phase two is a... Phase two is one less guess. So it's usually, so the Union Hall, small basement, just really-

ABC or whatever it is, yeah, yeah. Yeah, just really raw, not, I don't have anything. I go up with my notes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then once I get into phase two, which is like little field, Sultan room, uh, there's one less special guests. So it's me for roughly 30 and then guests or 25 let's say, guessed and then made for like 30.

And just trying to start to string stuff together, all these disparate ideas. You're like actually getting form to the hour. The very beginning of it, yeah. The very, very beginning of it. There's still stuff I know I'm not going to do, you know? Then I've tried it, there're just jokes that only I like. Yeah, that's the that's like the thing you want.

You know, like I just I have a one for you, one for me kind of mentality with it. Yeah, but I'm yeah, I. Yeah, there's I mean, I just know they're not good enough. Yeah. Also that. Yeah. You know, you really takes a lot of time to make a joke only you like. Yeah, I mean, I just know they're not good enough. Yeah. Also that. Yeah. You know. You really takes a lot of time to make a joke only you like. Yeah. I mean, I have, I have one that gets a lot of groans. What is it?

Uh, um, it's brand new, but what did the, what did the, what did the woman who just had an abortion and then regretted it but immediately went to an amusement park and went on the roller coaster say? There's a lot of setup. I don't know. What? Oh, I feel like a kid again. So.

I think that's good. It's a growner. It's a growner. It's like a. That's like those are my favorite kinds of jokes, though, like the ones that are like, you know what else, though? I'm just judging. Just a turn of phrase joke, like using. Yeah, using a phrase that everyone knows like.

Well, here's one that is not good that I was working on last time I did this. That's not good. What did the. Strident psychopathic woke feminist. See, oh, wait, this is old. I mean, I did it for a reason, say when she heard about the. Devastation from the. Hurricane or something, I can't remember the hurricane or something.

I can't remember the setup, something like that. Oh, it's so bad. These last two setups are like a forward to a book. I'm not even gonna. My favorite, like I like the first one a lot. My favorite joke that I can never, like I didn't write, this guy wrote, in Portland was just a, my stepdad was a terrible drunk.

He used to come home and just like beat the shit out of us. He's like, one other was blood everywhere. My mother was screaming. He's like, I guess you had to be there. Which was. Oh, oh boy. Well, I mean, that's like the feel like a kid again. Yeah.

I guess he had to beat there? Be there. I guess he had to be there. Yeah, I loved it. Yeah, yeah. I thought you said, I guess he had to beat there and that's. I guess he had to be there. Yeah, I loved it. Yeah, yeah. I thought you said, I guess he had to beat there and that's like too, that's not good. Yeah, you can't go through all that and pun it.

Yeah. You know what I think? No, I love those, those, I don't know if you know this, but you know who does a spot on fantastic impression of you? I bet you're gonna say Sean Patton you're going to say Sean Patton. I am going to say I know. I only guess because you two are torn together so much less.

Yeah, but he thinks he you think he does, too. Yeah, it's it's more about you on stage than all my saying. Then hanging out. Well, it's it's kind of everything. He doesn't really. I mean, yeah, I mean, he does. Yes, Sean and I will do impressions of one another. We get like we got we were in Atlanta, actually at a bar. I think you introduced him to.

Which one? It's in Little Five. I think it was called. Oh, the Yacht Club. Yeah, yeah. We were in there. And and we just like there were like all these younger comics hanging out and then we just started making fun of one another.

And they're just we had like an impression off of one another. The comics knew who you were? Yeah, it was me and him. I was down there doing shows and Sean's down there shooting something over. I guess it felt very weird to be the older comic finally. Yeah, welcome to it. Yeah, dude. It's fucked.

You're the grand statesman, you're the elder. Yeah, I'm like the only state horse, he was on Conan, which was a talk show. Yeah. But yeah, he and I were just doing impressions of one another, it's like, what if all these buttons in this elevator were, shot lasers instead of took you to Florida, that's my Sean Patton, it's just like,

what is, what is. Cause that sounds like you. That's not like him, like what is. That sounds like Sean doing you. Yeah, it's just like what is a what is that sounds like you that's like like what what sounds like Sean doing you? Maybe we're the same person at this point but like his function is like like I think like his like one of his core like Things he does in comedy is like he looks at something and says like well What if it did this instead like what if it's a complete opposite function? And I was in, I was in Asheville,

like three weeks ago doing shows. I love Asheville. It's a great town. Yeah, I love it. And these kids came up from Atlanta to open room, and these like younger Atlanta comics. And they're like, Sean Patton's in Atlanta shooting this thing. And anytime he shows up to a show,

all the young comics get sad because they just have to get drunk with, like they all get drunk with him. Yeah. And like, he's like, our livers just hurt. He's like a hurricane. He's like, yeah. Yeah.

Did you guys do a lot of cutting loose on the tour? Yeah. I mean, there were plenty of times where, you know, if it's night four or five and like, I can't, you know, I gotta go back to the hotel because, you know, I'll see, might have to have an early flight and it takes a while to get to the airport and you've got to connect somewhere else, you know, whatever. So it's just, and you're, you, and you've done three or four shows,

I do an hour and a half and then these meet and greets. You do 90 minutes? Yeah. Jesus Christ. Not for any, just cause it's self-indulgent. I mean, I'm more like, that's a lot. I try not to, but it ends up being about anywhere from, yeah, an hour 20 to an hour 30.

That's a lot of time. It is, but also there's fucking around. I dick around in the first five minutes or just pure dicking around. You're just engaging and. Yeah, just saying hi. Which is more fun. Like, I always think it's weird

when somebody like. Just jumps in. Just jumps right in. Oh, I don't like that either, it's weird. It's also like if you and I, like we just kind of started talking and I'm assuming we're recording now, but like. No, but we can start.

Yeah, yeah, we're recording. And then your voice just goes, Shane. You're like, you get a little deeper and a little more, like, but whenever somebody. Talking to Shane Torres. Yeah, like. Texas's own. They do their own podcast voice a little more like, but whenever. Talking to Shane Torres. Yeah, like Texas is own. They do their own podcast voice and they move like, you're like, what the fuck just happened?

Like now all the tone's different. But yeah, I think a 90 minutes is a long time. I just. It it it well, I mean, yes and no, it's if I feel like the audience is getting tired, then I'll wrap it up. But once you get into... Being a huge star like you are. Yes.

You like, they don't wanna let, they don't want you to... No, I lock the doors and then I pump in the gas. You pump in the gas. Yeah. Yeah. I have a, you know, the set keeps growing cause I'm always riffing on stage and stuff and I'm adding.

That's how you ride on stage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And well, that's what this whole shoot in the shit process is. And then, you know, you have it kind of locked in and stuff always, every single show, you need to do 85 shows and guaranteed every show something will happen that is, you know, addressable. Phony!

Ah, you. Ah, bless it. This phone is so sarcastic. It's my phone. It's very sarcastic. I'm serious here. I'm very serious. So something, you know, whether it's like a drunk person in the audience

or a weird reaction or anything that gets addressed. And sometimes you play around with that for like two, three minutes. Audiences love it, it makes the experience unique. When I was doing these- The fireworks are nice, that's kind of what I call it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean mean it could be anything

it could be I mean somebody's phone going off or whatever the thing is that you you know, so there's there's always fucking around with that and bringing that back and Then there's you know, again, the first the opening is saying hi and I try at this point there aren't too many places I'm going to that I've never been before. And, but I, so I have something to say about that town and, or an experience I had there, or, but I always take an hour to walk around, always walk around and just take the city in or whatever. And yeah, and you'll, you know, half the time you'll find something to talk about. If your headphones aren't in, there's a lot to be taken.

I don't wear my headphones. I just, I walk around. I walk and walk and walk and walk and walk. There's some person I saw being weird or a weird sign or something that's clearly local. Yeah, exactly. Do you ever do encores? Have you ever done an encore?

I used to, and I don't anymore because I do an hour and a half. Yeah, okay, that's good. It's time for daddy to go have some beer. Yeah, okay, yeah, I always like, I think it's so funny to do like, I don't know how you do an encore as a comedian. Well-

Did you give them like an old bit they would know? Cause you got some- No, I never- Fairly rabid fans or anything. Like you never did like- No, I never did you give them like an old bit they would know? Because you got some no, I never really rabid fans or anything like you never. You never did like a best of like a redneck fight like for anyone. Well, that's that's that's going way back. Yeah. Well, that was the album like I got introduced to on outside of. Oh, is that on the album? Oh, OK. Yeah. It's yes. OK. I don't know. Yeah.

Well, no. So I did some, you know, specials and HBO. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Well, no. So while I did some specials in HBO. Yeah, that's on one I remember. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was one of my first, I mean, that goes back to when I was just starting. That's one of the very few things that I had from, you're talking about when a redneck gets drunk and they start arguing, then they lose their trail of thought. The thing I loved about that bit was like, when you just hear the, uh, cause we're

both from the South. So I was like, when you hear that scoot of a chair was the thing, the detail of it that always got me. Cause you just like, Oh, redneck fight. You're like, man, you don't want, you don't want to fuck with me, man. Y'all don't know me, man. Cause I'm like, you get me riled up. You can watch out. You best watch man, because I'm like, you get me riled up. You can watch out.

You best watch out because I'm like a goddamn, uh, I'm like a goddamn, oh, God damn it. What's the name of the. The hurricane nestled in a box of tsunamis. It's well, you, you've clearly. I knew the bit. I don't remember that, but I remember the whole bit because I left it playing. And then I left my house and it was just playing and my window was open and my,

my, my neighbor came over and said to my room, he's like, could you turn this fucking shit off? He just heard you do it like. When I was, oh gosh, probably in my mid 20s, you know John- That's just a few years ago though. Just a few years ago, yeah. You know John Ennis from Mr. Show, he's an actor. Yeah, I think so. John, I was crashing at John's place.

I didn't have a place to stay. This is in Boston. He lived on the third floor of Walk Up. I don't know what the technology was back there's probably CDs at that point I mean it definitely CDs but I don't know what we were playing but we had we were playing the first side of the Sex Pistols album and cranked it and then I don't remember why, but we left, I think, and we left for a while, we left for like the weekend to go, I don't know,

see the Grateful Dead or something, thinking that it would turn off automatically and it never did. And he got in so much trouble. And I mean, just cranking, super loud. You were like, you guys were like all, were you guys just like fucking jammed up, like jazzed up and you're like, let's get out of here We're going to see the dead and then you well, it was I think it was

Planned whatever it was and and we were just going I don't even know where we might have been going to the Cape I have no fucking clue, but we went somewhere where we were gone for a couple days. And it just played for a week. And it just played, yeah. And the neighbors just like. I just heard from John that it was. And they were just like, they were fucking. Yeah. I mean, I guess, why wouldn't you assume it wouldn't go off though?

It's an honest mistake. It must've been, yeah, yeah, but it must've been on some, the loop thing. And I think somebody- Somebody has a visceral reaction to that song now, years later, if they just hear it. But they're angry about the lyrics. Yeah.

The music's fine. Yeah, but they're just like, that fucking guy. Like, like- They had to, I think they had to get somebody to go in there and turn it off. It was- Like a super or something? Yeah, somebody, but it wasn't like a super, it was like, you know, like a house

that was turned into a bunch of units. You know, like an old, old Boston thing. So it's like somebody on each floor, whatever. They had to get, yeah. Like somebody to go in there fucking. I just think it's funny, somebody like could be having a perfectly fine day and then be driving and hear the radio play that song and just be like reminded of something that fucking pissed them off so much.

Somebody works nights and, you know, comes home and what needs to sleep during the day and then. Yeah. Yeah. And then and then early punk. Loud, too. It was loud. Were you a big punk? Like. Oh, I loved it, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I was. What was like the jump for you from like, like whatever was on the radio to punk, like. Oh, I'll tell you, I was, mostly because of my friends, but I was into prog rock. Like I was into ELP and UK and like King Crimson and these kind of. Yeah, they kind of like and

Jean-Michel Jarre, who was like this kind of atmospheric, you know, like time synthesizer, crazy time signature like. Yeah. And I was predecessor kind of stuff. Yeah, I was into that, and probably that's like around ninth, 10th grade. I was always into the Who, always way, way, way deep in the Who, but I started getting into progressive rock.

And then in 10th grade, I worked at the, and it's still there, I actually stayed across the street a couple of years ago, I was shooting something in Atlanta, I stayed at the Tower Place six theaters. So I worked at this movie theater. And this guy named Bob Harris, who worked there was a couple years older than me. I was listening to his music. I'm like, this is great. What is

this? And it's people I'd heard about and I kind of liked, but, uh, now I had it all in one tape he made me. So it was, um, dead Kennedy's gang of four, Mink DeVille, X, uh, uh, soft cell Elvis Costello, early, early stuff. And, uh, so this would have been like 79, I think, 80. And I fucking wore that thing out. And then I started, when I started making money. When you heard that, were you like,

not abandoning Prog Rock, but like, kind of like. I just was less interested in it. I was really like, this speaks to me. The energy is there. Yeah. And I started, so now I, instead of buying, you know, a John Wetland thing, I was buying, you know, Dead Kennedys. And I wasn't that into, I don't know why, I wasn't that into Ramones and I wasn't into

West Coast punk as much. Yeah. For whatever reason. I mean, well, Dead Kennedys or San Francisco, but I never really got into Black Flag or Circle Jerks. I liked them. I mean, I liked them too, but I can't pretend I'm the biggest fan. And they were all a little bit before me,

like Prentice says, but I remember being embarrassed that I liked other stuff before I found punk rock. You know, like if people saw my CDs, they'd be like, ah, fuck, I have the scream soundtrack. Or something. Oh, dude, I had, I mean, this is when I was a kid, but I had the theme from Swat that I bought as a 45. I had, what's the song from?

Fucking Grease, You're the One That I Want. I had that on a 45. Like I had. I don't know why you stop enjoying the thing. Like as open. Well you just evolve, you get older. And You're the One That I Want doesn't speak to a, it doesn't speak to a 14 year old like it does

to a 10 year old where you're not really thinking about it. Yeah, that's very true. But yeah, I had a pretty eclectic, I had Kiss double live next to- I never knew them. I was never Kiss Army guy, but I definitely- That shit is insane to me. Like how obsessive people are over it. I mean, I saved everything for the insane clown posse.

I did his podcast. Did you? Yeah, I did a shaggy's podcast and Well, we taped at a house that he I guess he has like rents out for producing. There's supposed to be super nice guys He was really sweet. Yeah, I heard very good. Yeah, I've never met the other one, but he was very Tease they call me the guy. It's like Shaggy and Teeny, right? Shaggy and. I know it's not Teeny. It's Violent J.

Violent J, yeah. Yeah, he was really nice and actually like, it's so funny because he's like, the music I can't. It's just not, I've never been into it. He's a really insightful person because I was trying to, I did his, but I ended up asking him a lot of questions because he kind of was just like, he's a hundred percent the person you think he is, except he's very nice.

Like he's always just, yeah, I've heard they're very, he was just talking about like having sex with random chicks, but then he wasn't, it was just so like untethered, like, yeah, like there was no filtering him at all. So I was just like a little, I felt like dirty being around the lake when she was using, but he was very sweet with me and... Where does he live? Is he in Michigan? Yeah, he's in Detroit. Yeah, yeah, outside of it. Like Detroit as he said, like it was an interesting, it was an interesting conversation because he, I was just like, they just did everything out of the trunk of a car

and then they busted wide open. And then they've been like, you know, they've been designated like a criminal gang, like the Juggalos and all this kind of stuff by the FBI. It's all like crazy bullshit. It's interesting what takes off to me. Do you ever see the old, SNL hasn't had very many good, clever things

in, I don't know, 20 years or so. But their thing where they were doing the- It'd be great if it was the date you left the show. That you were like- I've never been on SNL. I thought you were on SNL. Didn't you write on it? No, no.

Are you sure? I'm serious. I'm sure. I, there's a kind of a longer backstory to, I ended up with a kind of an open invitation from Jim Downey, the head writer, to write when I wanted to come on as a staff. Did you audition for it? No.

I went and met with Lauren for a long time. And what I, I had no, I did not audition for SNL. I have been telling people for years, a crazy story I heard about you auditioning for SNL. Well, all right, let me change that. Let me change that to, I'll amend it. So I had a sketch group in Boston and we came up to New York to showcase for SNL,

but it wasn't, so we did that and it wasn't with Lauren, it was with Jim Downey, Al Franken, and I think, I think Sandler and Farley might've been there. I don't know, there were a handful of people. Not many, but who went and saw our show, which was a showcase for SNL, to move into whether we were gonna audition. So I wouldn't call it an audition.

You were kind of scouted, essentially. Yeah. I heard, and by the way, I've been telling people this story for years about you, that you auditioned and your whole audition, you just counted down from a thousand. What? No. I swear to God, I heard this story that you auditioned for SNL and you just counted down

from a thousand. No. I mean, I've told that to maybe hundreds of people. There's nothing that even remotely resembles that, that I've ever done. Well, I think now we can grow the legend of David Cross even more. I think I might still tell people. A thousand, 999, 998.

Yes, that's what I thought you did. I was like, well, he's a creative ballsy comic. Maybe he did do that to make an impression. Well, where did you hear that? Where'd you get that from? I don't know, but I've been, I've told a lot of folks. God damn, you're- I was like, he's a friend of mine.

You're fake news, buddy. Yeah, I can't. Wow. Oh well, anyway. Anyways, SNL, 20 years ago, they haven't had a good- Oh, but they're, well actually, 20 years ago, they haven't had a good, yeah. Oh, but they're, well actually the cold open last, the, what was it, Katie Britt thing,

that Scarlett Johansson in was fucking great. It was really good. And she was amazing, she was just spot on. I watched that, did you watch the actual video she put, the actual post Katie did? Not live, but I saw it later, yeah. It's fucking insane. Oh, yeah. It's it's every every bad idea rolled into one.

And the sincerity like she's trying to pull off of a faux sincerity. Yeah, it's like a politician. I worry. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. But Scarlett Johansson nailed it. Just perfect. But so I was going to say there when SNL would do their what do they call it? What is the gathering? Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gathering of the Juggalos. And they do the list of artists or artists. And it would just keep going and going. And they were

just so funny. And it reminded me of the those kind of list jokes, those things that you would be crying, laughing with tears, laughing so hard, your stomach hurt in the writers room at one in the morning coming up with dumb band names, you know? And you could see the, I could just know the joy. Oh, like how much fun they were having doing that? Yeah.

Where do you go like take in comedy now? Like who, do you have like a regular, like, do you watch SNL all the time still? Or do you? No, no. I'll click on a thing if there's like- That's kind of how I take it into. Oh, this sketch is, you know, and if I get through the whole thing, great.

If not, you know, but I don is, you know, and if I get through the whole thing, great. Yeah. You know, but I don't, you know, it's one of those things. I mean, they've got great writers and supreme talent, you know, but I mean, five days to do a show where you got to cater to some, you know, like you got a weird personality. It's kind of a yeah. Is Bruce Willis is here. we need to make a diagram. Yeah, I just.

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No. You're joking. No. Oh, were you going to, okay. But I was like, because I was like, I think for like three years maybe I've just been coming home and not enjoying anything, just been working and then like I just throw on like a dumb,

dumb thing and I don't want to be invested in it. And are you talking about stand up or just comedy? Comedy in general, whatever inspires gets you moving creatively. Yeah. Stand up wise, like it's weird to say this, but I kind of go to the same people I've gone to for years, because I kind of trust them. But I was like, I rewatched Andy Daly's review.

I haven't seen it, but I heard great dates. Yeah. So like I felt like we're juvenile. It's so goddamn good. And the turns in it, you know, when you watch comedy, you're like, this is what they're going to do next. But you can kind of like you look at it from a craftsman's eye or whatever. The turns he puts in it are so fucking funny and you don't see him coming. It's so tricky and good. Yeah, I need to check it out.

I mean, he's something special. Yeah, I remember reading about it and I like Andy, you know, and I gotta check it out. There's just so much stuff on there. I don't know what we I got to check it out. There's so much stuff on there. Yeah, I don't know what we're supposed to. What would I just I'll tell you what I've watched. I've really liked.

Not necessarily comedy, but Reservation Dogs is great. Yeah, it's kind of dramedy stuff. Yeah. And the acting is just fucking phenomenal. And and also the all the comics that did guest spots on there. I've only seen the first seasons. So Bill Burr is fucking great, is like this teacher, like real, like real, and did a really good job.

Like he's acting, he's not being Bill Burr. He's acting, no, no, no, he's great. Mark Maron in season three is like a guy who runs a halfway house. Ethan Hawke who's not a comic but he's amazing. Like their guest stars are like some of the best. Really well done. Really well done.

Oh gosh, what was I gonna say? Something, oh yeah, the How To with John Lewis. I haven't watched that. Oh dude. Yeah? It's great. It's HBO? Yes. Yeah, okay, I'll something. Oh, yeah. That how to with John Lewis. I haven't watched that. Oh, dude. Yeah. It's great. HBO. Yes. Yeah. OK. Yeah, it's it's so good. Well, I mean, the premise is a guy documenting things around New York, his New York

and narrating it. And it's starts off as one thing like, like you know how to I can't remember them but we know how to buy a mattress and it starts off is this one thing and then like so many great documentaries although these are just short thirty minute segments short 30-minute segments, you switch very quickly. Like what the pivot is. Yeah. And you're not even aware of it sometimes, and then it becomes this whole other thing. Always interesting, always well-done, very funny,

very poignant at times. And yeah, I highly recommend it. Okay. It's great. Yeah. I got recommend it. Okay. It's great. Yeah. I got to take in better stuff right now.

Yeah, I mean, it's hard. Then also, you're on the road and you come home and you're fucking exhausted. Yeah, I don't want to watch poor things at 1 a.m. when I'm talking. You know what I mean? I know it's good. I know it's supposed to be good, but like. Is it? Is it?

I don't know. I haven't seen it. Yeah, I mean, but that's the thing is like, I know it's. Some people I know who I respect really didn't care for it. Really? Made him a little angry. Well, maybe I don't, I mean, but I don't know it's good. They've all been like,

will you watch it so we can talk about it? Yeah, all right. Yeah. Do you see the curse? What? You see the curse? No, I haven't seen the curse. Oh, dude.

I haven't seen so much to. See the curse. What's the curse about? Nathan Fielder, Emma Stone, and Benny Sapty. Yeah. It's great. Yeah. Everything about it. Everything. You really enjoyed it.

Yeah. You really enjoyed it. He's pretty about as close as you can get to batting 1,000. Fielder doesn't. Yeah. He gets. I. He's, the acting is great in this too.

Like all, everybody, all of them, but Nathan too. He, yeah. I guess I'll have to watch it. But it's one of those things, I think I miss everything because I'm, for someone whose job is in careers too kind of comment on what's happening in the world, like, I'm up to date on nothing. Yeah. Yeah. But there's a glut of things out there. So it's almost okay. Because you could say, you could mention something that literally has been viewed a hundred million times and perhaps 75% of your audience will like, nah, I haven't seen it, you know?

It's fucking. I mean, it's, so what's the point? I mean, I don't know what the point is, but I fucking, I just want, you know. Oh, I'm gonna, I'm sorry to interrupt. I'm gonna tell you a special that I just watched that I really liked, Rory Scovel's. Yeah.

My buddy Steve was talking about it. I haven't watched it yet. It's really good. Yeah. Yeah. I want to watch. I saw I love Roy's. Yeah. Incredible. Right. And that the the the opening of the specially shot in Atlanta is one of the best.

Oh, the one he did at the what was that theater? The Relapse, I think is the theater they shot at. I don't know. Where he's like, like comes in like rockstar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's really good. So funny, like, do you know Gilbert Lawlin

and Mike Albanese, those guys, they're Atlanta Comics, they live up here. No, I don't think so. But they put on that festival, Red Clay, they're like in it as his security guards and Gilbert's like four eight. You know, like he to me is like, it was just like, it kind of took me out of the opening

cause they're just sitting there with their sunglasses on, their arms crossed and like Mike is like six, nine. He's gigantic and Gilbert's like this little. So the contrast is very funny. But Gilbert in a green room is maybe the funniest person who's ever lived in the like We just call him the green room killer like he came to Carolines one night with me and canane And he just came in and was like having good things like where we drinking boys Applebee's are all in garden

just Awesome, you can't you can't stop rip Like he'll pick you up from the airport and you'll be hanging out like going to do shows and goes hey Shane You know that joke you do about Guy Fieri, you know be like,, yeah, yeah. And he goes, I've been doing it down here. It works great. So don't fuck. Okay. Remember in 2018 when border patrols separated

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It would just be so funny for like when Evil Knievel jumped over to play. It was when Evil Knievel was, went on this antisemitic tirade. No, it was, you know what I'm going to bring up. I do, yeah. I have an addition to it now. It was, do you what I'm gonna bring up. I do, yeah. I have an addition to it now. It was, do you?

Yeah. Okay. Because it's also, you can speak to it from your perspective and I can speak to it from my perspective. So Shane and I were doing, it was one of those David Cross and pals type of shows at the, it was a short-lived festival. They don't do it anymore, right?

It was Comedy Central's Cluster Fest. Comedy Central, they don't do that, right? No, no, no. Yeah. They only did like two years, I think. It was a nice idea. It was a nice idea, but not well-run. There were some serious issues that needed to be heard. I was so far down the totem pole then I was just happy to be there and have a hotel and

free beer, you know, like. I mean, it's fun. It's definitely fun, but. It was like bands. It was like kind of like an inverted Bonnaroo or Outside Lans in the sense that comedy was headlining and music was. Right. Yeah.

But they just, the, the actual physicality of it wasn't kind of. No, it kind of. Well done. Yeah, and I think two years with a festival is like barely enough time to get anything right with it. Yeah. There's so many moving parts on those things.

But anyway, so it's big festival and we were in the, we were in some like auditorium arena thing and it was probably, I don't know, a third full, but it was probably what? 45,000, 5,000. It's like 5,000. It was a big. It was a big arena.

That's the big center. Yeah, the Bill Graham or whatever it's called, yeah. And, you know, so you've got a lot of people focused on you who've got a, who, you know, are, it's just, and it's a big, you know, big space to play. So, did you come up with this idea? I did. Yeah.

And I've used it once or twice since. It's so, it's so ballsy. So this, and also we have to say that this was what, 2019? Maybe a little bit before, this was- 18, 17, whatever year he got in trouble. Whatever year he got in trouble. So it was like a month after. Yeah. Sam Jay, who fucking knocked it out of the park with the intro, the shit out of it.

He sold the shit out of it. So you remember when I asked you, I go, hey, can I do this? And then you were like, yes, you have to. Like because I was like, it might ruin this. Like you might like take the tone of the show out of the like I was like, I thought it was funny from the start and I was only asking permission because I didn't want to like, oh, I didn't want to come off. You have somebody be like, what the fuck were you thinking?

Yeah, no, I I thought you would be into it. That's all I would have had your back if anybody said that anyway. But so this was Shane's idea, again, 5,000 people. And this is, so Sam Jay goes up there and is very kind of, and just sold it perfectly where she's clearly uncomfortable, but still a professional trying to do her job and introducing a

special guest who's a legend Had some issues as But Anyway Please welcome Louis CK and this was like when he had Everything the shit had come out in New York Times article, everything awful. Lots of people were like heartbroken over it because they were such, yeah.

And then the crowd reacted as you might imagine. They didn't know what to do, like it was interesting. They didn't know what to do. Because someone were like, oh, yeah. Oh, yay, but no, not yay. It's like a present they didn't know if they weren't gonna like. Yeah. Uh.

And then Shane comes out. And they were, they were, like, they gave, there was a sense of relief on them after I came out and they were like, oh, yeah. But the confusion also, yeah, it was, it really fucked with people because, as you pointed out, there was that kind of, oh, yes or no, I don't know. And then when it was you, they were like, oh, okay, no, I didn't want him here anyway.

I did that, I used that trick again. I was out with Bert and he's playing mega arena. Oh yeah. Yeah. He was on his fully loaded tour this past summer. Well, Bert's audience isn't going to bum out about. Well, that didn't say Louie. Oh, oh. Oh yeah. Because I was following,

it would be Big Jay and David Tell, and all these other people, we were all in these lines. Like so I was like, I don't I got in my house. I don't think I'm like standing out. And I was like, I told Seif to bring me up as Tom Segura because they're so synonymous, you know, and of course he sold it like way different than Sam.

Like he sold it like, give me your fucking energy. And we taped it. And like there's a point where I was behind the screen, the video screen, I was like, this truly might've been the worst mistake of my life. It was so goddamn loud, I was scared. And then I had to like, like I came out and I had to like double down

because like Chad Daniels taped it and you could just hear this woman on my phone be like, well, fuck you too. And I just, it was at St. Louis. They told them they were all dumber than the arch for thinking the sagura would be there. And they like, oh man, I get bare. Like I barely got out of it.

How much time did you do? Like 20 minutes, like 15, 20. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's like, So now I think they're gonna remember me more now than any great joke I would have had, you know, like in I don't know the the physical situation, but can you see people? Can you see people arms crossed pissed off? Yeah, well, they like I guess I remember it now visually from the video Chad took, but like. Like, Scythe gets them all to stand up and they start screaming. Cause he's like, it's the other bear. It's the, you know, like your mom's and they are like, they couldn't be happier.

Yeah. And then it's just so sad. Yeah. And Chad says they harrumped back into their seats and all these like fat Midwestern guys just sat on their nuts. Poppycock. Well, I'm cracker jacks or whatever. And I don't, I mean, I thought it was very funny,

but I don't like, I don't like, I don't know if it has, I kind of made me think like, I don't know if anything I do up here has any consequence if that's not gonna upset them that much Yeah, like so it's kind of nice to just keep because at that because at some point perhaps you're just a guy they're Waiting to you know, like they're like, oh, he's got 20 minutes. We'll just sit through this Yeah, we like it if we like it and then like to the next person. Yeah, but I wanted to like Kind of jolt them alive a little bit. Yeah, it sounds like you did. Yeah, I think I did

Okay, but anger is a is a a little bit. Yeah, it sounds like you did. Yeah, I think I did OK, but anger is a is a useful energy to. Yeah, it can be. Yeah. No, I think. Yeah. Did you ever do stuff like that? What was like the craziest live thing you pulled that didn't work? Do you have a specific? Oh, I mean, a lot. I. Trying to think of something something that I did that like,

oh, well, when I did the San Francisco, though what is it called? They did it for decades. SketchFest? No, it was a contest. San Francisco International Comedy Competition? Is that what it was? Is that run by John Fox?

Yes, yes, yes. I still have the paper from it. Do you really? Yes. I did Seattle, which was his other one. So, me and this other comic from Boston, Cristino got accepted into the competition. And I was young.

I mean, I was shit. I mean, maybe 20. Yeah, I was like 23, maybe. I don't know. And I went out there. And you know, my act was very, I wasn't as comfortable as I am now. I just come out and, you know.

But I also had that thing where bombing didn't bother me as much as it bothered other people. You know? Did you come out pretty specific as a comic? Like when you were starting to write and do stand-up, you had a point of view that was a little more... It was not like me. It was not general, but it was not general like a lot of people start off

in stand-up comedy acting like stand-up they've seen. Does that make sense? Yeah. in stand-up comedy acting like stand-up they've seen. Does that make sense? Yeah, I mean, I was overly influenced by and overtly influenced by Andy Kaufman and Steve Martin. So I had a lot of weird, like, what's he doing? Little left of center than my wife and my kids kind of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So I never had those kind of jokes. And it took me a little while to kind of find my voice and get comfortable. And, but then I did and I was working all the time in Boston just because of the comedy boom. And they just, everything had a fucking comedy night. You know, so you- You were doing like the ding ho and all those kinds of things.

Yeah, you just need to, they need bodies. I need to throw somebody on stage. So I was- They need chum for the watch. Yeah. And so I was always working. I mean, you know, you're getting ripped off royally, but Bill Downs and Paul Barclay and the likes.

But also, Greg Fitzsimmons has a great story about getting his due from Bill Downs. Really? Yeah, it's great. OK. Next time you see him, ask him. Yeah, I barely know. Did you guys start at the same time or is he a little ahead of you? Yeah, it's great. Okay. Next time you see him ask him. Yeah, I barely know. Great.

Did you guys start at the same time or is he a little ahead of you? Um, no, we were around the same time. I might've been a year ahead of him actually. Uh, um, but yeah, we, we started around the same time and, uh, um, anyway, uh, right. So I go, I go out there and, um, the way it's set up is, I think it's like 10, you have two weeks and one week is 10 comics and the next week is 10 different kinds.

Yeah, it's like a fucking exhaust. It's a, for people who don't know, it's an exhaustive like, you do like a show a night and you maybe get one night off a week and if you pass on, then you do the same thing again and it lasts a month. Yeah, it's month. Yeah it's only profitable if you win kind of. Yeah and also then they also way over sell the thing about this is gonna be so great for your career. The value of it is like bullshit. Yeah it's bullshit.

Like I did the Seattle International Comedy Competition might have been one show in Seattle like and everything else is all over the state of Washington well, that's how it is Sam, I mean we so the the the the the show in question, so I I had I Was bombing and when I back then and still today, but I don't really bomb anymore But when I bomb I'm like if we're gonna go out, let's do this right. Yeah, go out, kind of swing, yeah, yeah, yeah. Go out swinging and fuck all y'all.

Dig the fucking hole if you're gonna dig it. Yeah, yeah. So. I wish I had more of that. I'm so fucking wanting to be liked, it's insane. Yeah, I don't have that thing. The thing I have is I want to be professional. And I will give, I'll give the audience every chance,

but if they're in mass, if they're gonna be shitty, then all right, you've broken the contract and now I get to do what I wanna do. So I always go out there trying, I will try. You don't just come out and say fuck it and like. No, and there's this, you know, um, I got a reputation that I don't think is deserved, uh, where people are like, you know, like I'd go out to subvert the set. And that's just not true, you know? Um, I always try it. I always. Yeah. I always. Yeah. But so I I was not doing well.

And I'll tell you who was doing very well was Henry. No, wait, what was his name? He was a Korean guy from Tennessee. Good looking dude. Henry Cho. Yeah, I know. I know. You know, I know his headshot. Yeah. Henry Cho was killing.

And and, you know, he was clearly on his way to win. He did the same set. I did different stuff every time he did the same set. And he used to have this bit that was reminiscent of the classic thing and the sitcom Taxi where Jim Reverend Jim is taking the driver's test. OK. And he goes, what does a yellow light mean? And they go, slow down. What does a yellow? Slow down.

You know, he's trying to cheat, whatever. Anyway. He's just doing a sitcom? No, no, it's not. It's just reminiscent of it. He talks about his friend. His bit was, you know know and I had friend um whatever his name was Jay JB something Stewart right JB Stewart he's taking his test he's filling it out he's like hey man Henry what do I what do I do here

and says you know to do my name initials and then last name he's like, Hey man, Henry, what do I, what do I do here? And, uh, says, uh, you know, to, to do my name initials, um, and then last name, he's like, Oh, you put J only be only Stuart. And then I swear to God, he writes John Lee bone Lee Stu. And that was his best. Like, I was like, that's just like the roof is being torn down. It's always, yeah. Killed. And I had this similar experience with it.

Well, so the last show and I was way out of, I actually had one good show which made, so I had like two bad ones or three bad ones and then one good one where I like placed, like, oh shit, okay, maybe I have a chance. And then pretty quickly I had no chance and then we did a winery the Paul. I want to say palm asan winery I don't know out somewhere fucking our outside of San Francisco. We ought to go to and outdoor show

With people who this is put on by people who know, who are supposed to know comedy. Yeah, yeah. And it's all like wealthy white people, every single person, outdoors, noon, not a good comedy room. You set it for no success. And I got drunk and on purpose, on the shitty wine. And I went out, I think I went out,

I went out and I don't remember exactly what it was, but I was talking to, at some point I pulled my pants down. And with whatever the context was, it was a very thin context, but it was about- Wasn't like a well laid premise or- No, no, no, but I think that was kind of the point. Yeah.

And so I took my, I don't know, it was, and I just insulted everybody and I insulted the wine and I- And I, it was one of those things where like, haha, I got them. Then everyone's fucking pissed off. Not everyone dealing with the people, the Foxes and the- No, not the staff, the Foxes and some of the other comics. Some of the other comics loved it,

but there were other comics that were like, that's bullshit and people have to follow that and whatever. But then I sobered up and felt really stupid, really stupid. And I mean, I don't regret the idea of what I was doing. I think only you should. It's probably the only thing anybody remembers from that show, if anybody remembers anything.

I remember J-Only, B-Only, Jo-Only, Bum-ly Stewart. That's, gee, I fucking, yeah, I walked right in. Jo-Only, and then he would, it would be tagged with, it's true! He would do that every single time. He'd say it's true and laugh in the middle. Did Henry Cho win the Cisco comedy? He, I think he did.

If he didn't, then he was definitely in the finals. Yeah, yeah. I think he did. Yeah. If he didn't, then he was he was definitely in the finals. Yeah. Yeah. I. I regret kind of thing in that shit mattered that much. Yeah, you're a kid, you know. Yeah, but it's like also like. I mean, I don't I knew I loved doing it, and I was very happy doing comedy, like from the start, you know, the moment I did it.

And then I would like and then I'd be like this. I kind of not too long, but look for a little bit would listen to it People talk about triple runs and those kind of show like those like fucking long horrible one nighter II shits and you're like I would want to do those and I'd be like what Why do I want to do that? Like it sounds awful to go to a bar and just get drunk with a bunch of people in Montana and then do comedy and not have them like me. Like I kind of, I always wish I had a little more like,

fuck you, like I'll do it the way I want. I think you're doing fine, Shane. I think your instincts are yours and they're right for you. And you know, I wouldn't. Just turn into a little bit of therapy right now. I'm sorry about that. I don't know what I would. I mean, you're. What are you laughing at? I wouldn't. Just turn into a little bit of therapy right now. I'm sorry about that. I don't know what that can. I mean, you're.

What are you laughing at? I'm sorry. You're also the kind of person who would go up in front of 5,000 strangers and have yourself introduce as Louis CK right after all that shit happened. And you know, that takes balls of steel. Thank you.

You know, and it was really fun to watch. Oh man, it was really fun to watch. Oh, man. It was a good memory. I can't believe that was like seven years ago now. Yeah. I mean, I was way off. I was like, what is that, 2020, 19, 18, 17? It was 22, like height of everybody coming out of COVID.

Well, now what? Are you done? No, no, no. I, now what? Are you done? No, no, no, I just wonder what I didn't know what to transition. I'm not done. Well, you've you are transitioning by virtue of the fact that you've now broken the fourth wall as we're in saying, I don't know how to transition. It's not your job to transition either. No, it's my job. It's our it's and saying, I don't know how to transition. It's not your job to transition either. No, it's not.

It's my job. It's our effort though. Yeah, true. I mean, you're my partner in this. But, and it's not really a job. I don't get paid for this. I'm doing these, this is one of those things that became apparent immediately.

Like, oh, you don't get paid in a podcast and like you're one of the top zero zero one percent. We are so far in the red on mine, for years. Like, I don't, I mean, I enjoy doing it. And that's how it should be. Yeah. That's how it should be. It's just two fucking people talking, all right?

Yeah. You're not, you're not, don't. I don't know if there's anything. What it takes to have a podcast breakthrough into anything now? Well. Into any kind of, to have a hit podcast.

I don't know what that would be. Let's ask the ladies. Emma, Nicole, what does it take to have a hit podcast? I don't know, what would you Emma, Nicole, what does it take to have a hit podcast? What would you say, Nicole? Hmm. I don't know. I feel like a lot of them tend to be more niche, especially right now. There's like the theme is everything. Like people are really that's why that's why fucking.

Oh, that's not up. All right. That's why sense is working overtime. Was your thing. Yeah. Well, so for years, people had been, you know, managers and, you know, the team going like, you really should do a podcast. And I had no interest in it. I just didn't, not for any reason, specific reason,

like I'm not going to do that or anything. I just didn't want to take up my energy doing that. Yeah, if you wanted to do it, you wanted to do it right. And then, you know, after several years, I was like, oh, I can see the value. And also I had been doing a bunch because promotion now is like less about what it used to be and now you do a lot of podcasts.

It's very enjoyable, I enjoy it. And- You prefer this to the old style of promoted? Oh, fuck yeah. Like then- Well, I don't, I mean, yes. What would you do before, like just radio and like- You do the Sirius radio tour, you do a day of talking to, you know, the press, you know, the same, then you do a couple, you know, you do a West Coast chat show and you do an East Coast chat show and that's it, you know.

But over the last, I don't know, five years or so, like they've been less of that kind of thing and then you do podcasts and they're enjoyable. I like it. And I was like, okay, I can do that. So I was like, okay, I can do that. I was like, okay, I'll do one. They were like, great, write up a little thing that we can present and go out there with. I wrote up this page,

page and a half of, hi, I'm David Cross and I'm a professional talker. I've been talking since I was roughly two, and I'm good at it, and I enjoy it, and whatever, I wrote this thing up. And they're like, oh yeah, you need like a hook. What do you mean the hook? The hook is I'm talking to people.

No, you need like an angle. You need like a, they kept saying hook. It's gotta be like the gum part, like you chew gum and talk, and all. Right. That's some of the ones that like fucking kill me, they're like, yeah. Yeah, well yeah, there's like you chew gum and talk. Or like, that's some of the ones that like fucking kill me. They're like, yeah. Yeah.

Well, yeah, there's the thing like cooking and talking. Yeah. We're gonna make a souffle while we tell you cares. It's two dirty little tramps talking about their sex stuff. You know, like, or what, you know, like it's like, there's a lot of people like doing the same, their own iteration of these kind of, yeah.

Well, as Nicole was saying, it's niche. Yeah. And so I was like, as Nicole was saying, it's niche. And so I was like, I don't know, what is it? I mean, murder mystery seemed to have been taken. Yeah, it's like a real industry now. What the fuck do I, I don't know, I don't care. I just wanna talk to people. And then almost like two months went by

and I just had a revelation. I was walking down the street. I was like, oh, oh, the five senses. I'll make it about the five senses and now use that as a jumping off point for conversations because I don't care about the other shit. So I was like, you know, what's the loudest thing you've ever heard? What's the worst thing you've ever smelled? Whatever. loudest thing you've ever heard, what's the worst thing you've ever smelled, whatever. And I think I've asked questions three times,

and this is what, the 20th? Yeah. And then I had, it was so, so I actually, I don't know if it was Headgum or somebody was like, you should record, tape a little something that says, hey, so here's the deal, it's called Sense is Working Overtime, but yeah, you know record, like tape a little something that says, hey, so here's the deal. It's called Sense is Working Overtime,

but yeah, you know what? Actually we have good conversations and we don't get to it. You're not like, yeah. I never wanted to fucking do it in the first place. Yeah. Kanae and I have this, like we have a podcast where we like, it's like my Guy Fieri joke in the sense that we just defend things people don't enjoy, or when like we take take all I see guy Fieri in a completely different way now because of your bit

Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he should be I Don't know how to feel about that joke anymore Like I think it did I guess I mean people doing some damage now as it is it No, I think it's more like um, I now? Is it? No, I think it's more like, um, I like I'm happy I wrote something people resin that resonated with people and people enjoyed. But now I'm like, and he was very nice. I got no issues with it, but I'm just like, I, I don't think I am this, but I have like the, I have some self doubt obviously that I'm just like, you're just like a fucking one hit one. You're like deep blue Blue Sun you breakfasted Tiffany's yourself all people

know is Guy Fieri and then I like that's not true I don't know everything bagel people know the Shane Torres they fucking that joke gets more grief than anything but somebody at my shows at ACME somebody made their own shirt this weekend about yeah there you go yeah but I worry about like I like I wonder if like I also wonder if I'll write something that resonates that much again with people. Like that kind of creates. You will.

Yeah. I hope so. Yeah. But it's like, you know, it's a little daunting to try and do things like twice, I guess. And I was excited about that joke. What do you mean? It's daunting to try to do things. To try to be like,

I remember when I wrote that joke, it came out, not easy, but I created it in a way that I was like, once I started doing the work for it, it was like, oh, this all makes sense and it was just clicking right. The bit came out. I haven't had someone un-she the sword over there. A katuna. I'm just an iPad, sorry.

A digitaluna. I'm just an iPad, sorry. A digital sword. Now I'm like, I'm not like writing other jokes thinking this isn't as good as the Guy Fieri joke or anything like that, but I just wonder, I want to get back to the rhythm of writing. I felt very strong as a comic then create, I felt all the energy flowing. And I'm trying to find ways to do that again. So that's why I was talking to you earlier about like, what you take in what you enjoy, like if it's like, I don't grow your creative, like, you know, like, get the engine running.

I think the thing that works best for me is simply, I mean, I have the luxury of living in New York City, but simply going out and walking around. I just go out and walk around and I think, I know this sounds so corny and twee, but I put my standup glasses on and I see things through a standup. And if I'm writing something, if I'm writing sketches, or Bob and I are writing something, I look at it through those, through that, but I do have to-

You try and set your mind for that when you go out. Yeah, I do switch. And I go, I need to observe things and have them filter through my standup brain. Yeah. And so it's that. And then, and I will, like before I really start putting the set together,

sometimes I will watch a Richard Pryor's special from something that's very inspirational to me where I can watch it and go, Jesus. I mean, it's just masterful. Yeah, the guy's a hurricane. But whoever, just somebody, watch somebody that you love, that I love doing, or old Bill Hicks stuff. We're like, man, that's.

Did you meet Jonathan Winters guy? Yeah. Yeah, I had a double album. Yeah. Yeah, I got to like, I saw something in him the other, I like, that's what, he's one of my blind spots in com, like I know him a little bit from just like talk show appearances and stuff, but I have to like,

I saw him do something on a talk show, and it was just like, he had a stick, and it was just like five minutes of him making. Oh, he was a fucking genius. It was like five minutes of him making. Oh, he's he was like a genius. Blowing my fucking mind like how good he was. I mean, I was ahead of the curve. He was then everybody. Well, he was Robin Williams big inspiration. I mean, that was an influence.

Robin Williams, very influenced by Jonathan Winters. But yeah, I mean, and also like. Soft spoken and seems just to command a theater with a voice, that's, you know, I mean, he'd do characters and stuff, but but he wasn't like he was coming out with a full energy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that should be the name of your next special. This full of energy.

Sounds disgusting. It sounds disgusting. Well. Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to like, I was thinking that, I worry about history and comedy because everything's moving so fast now, like about how many people are absorbing anything, or if they're, and I've talked about this before, but I was just like think I don't think any

Comics who have started in the past ten years like might know who Greg Geraldo is or like or absorb, you know, like yeah, I I don't Pretend to know everything but I just think it's interesting like I did I Started off as a fan of comedy and not I started off as a fan of comedy and not wanting to be a famous person. Well, that has been the case since I started. Okay, that's not anything new. No, no. There were plenty, and you knew them. You knew them instantly. Yeah.

People who didn't give a shit about the craft or the art of stand stand up comedy and this, you know, back in the day when, uh, you know, really there, you could be a sitcom star based on your act. And I mean, think of all the people that was that ever on the table for you? No, no. Uh, my act isn't, isn't like, they weren't going to like that. They weren't gonna make you a postman in the Chicago suburbs or anything like that. No, I mean, you think of all those people that came out, I mean, there's so many. And for every success, there were five shows

that didn't- Some people never did, yeah. That ran for a season or less or whatever. But you think about like, Ray Romano and Brett Butler and- Tim Allen or whoever. Tim Allen and who's the magician guy? You know, Night Court, Harry Anderson. Harry Anderson, I was supposed to open for him right before he died.

Ah, fucker. I would've, yeah, I would've loved to open for him. Night Court was one of my, like a pretty underrated sitcom in my opinion. No, I didn't care for it. I love John Larracad and I loved Bull. Like, I was also 11, so I was like. There you go. Yeah, yeah.

It worked. Until it's four. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, that was always a thing where you could tell people were taking, using stand up to make a shortcut. Yeah. To fame. Yeah. To fame. Yeah.

Which is so crazy, cause it's so hard. Yeah. Like to take it as a shortcut. Yeah, but here's the thing, they're not, you only need, or at least back in the day, if you had enough for a showcase, if you weren't interested in, you know,

headlining the Catcher Eyes of the Star and Princeton, then you'd get your fucking seven minutes, eight minutes, and you'd just fucking work that, and then you'd go try to get on The Tonight Show. And people weren't doing more than half an hour. That's crazy. It's also so funny because The Tonight Show has this reverence in comedy, and then they're like, oh, they were still putting on people who only wanted to be like, I know legends

have done it, but a ton of hacks have done it. Yeah, like in everything. You know, like, God, maybe I'm too precious, but. You should just quit. I'm thinking about it. Yeah. Would you be a roofer? No, I can't. You can't roof. I can't roof.ofer? No, I can't.

You can't roof. I can't roof. I can't roof. I can't plum. I'll probably just be like a dog walker again. Like I don't, that was the freedom for me in comedy was like every kind of job I could get, I knew I could get it again. So if I got fired, I was very like, who gives a shit.

There's other dogs to walk. Yeah, there's other dogs to walk, there's other couches to be carried. That was the one thing I was good at, was kind of being good at being poor. Oh, same here, same here. It was a really valuable skill set. Yeah, it informs me daily,

and that whole bit about, that I did in the last special about having a rich kid and how I feel about that is, that's a real thing. I mean, I love that kid. But you have some true resentment towards the privilege show in it. I don't know if resentment is the, I mean, maybe jealousy, maybe like weird.

It's probably some of that too, yeah. Like the idea of, you know, you haven't really earned any of this and you haven't, you don't know what it's like to not have this and then to appreciate the thing that you now have. Yeah. Because you didn't have it and you couldn't have it,

but now you have it and it makes you appreciate things more. And you know, so far she's, you know, it's early days yet, but so far she's a good kid. She's not like shoving cats downstairs or anything like that. Can you shove a cat downstairs? I guess you could. Yeah, you can if you try. From behind, yeah. Oh, sure, sure, yeah. She's not a cat-shover, but Yeah, you can. From behind, yeah. Oh, sure, sure, yeah. All the time. She's not a cat shiver, but so, you know, as I said, it's early days, but so far so

good, but I just worry about like the expectation of and how she'll deal with like, oh, you can't have this thing. There's no amount of crying or whining is going to make this thing appear in your hands or happen. And the idea of sacrifice and all that. So we'll see, we'll see. Yeah, but I mean, if you're... I'm not, I'm the opposite of those people who are like,

I want my children to have everything I never had. You think that leads to like- Oh, fuck that. Yeah. No, no, no. They're not gonna do that. I think what you should do is gradually start taking things away from her as she gets older. Well, we, you know-

Like maybe not a room. Like maybe she has to sleep in the living room. Yeah, yeah, that's good. I like that. Yeah. And- Like today- Or outside. Today you have no shoes. Outside. Yeah, today you don't get to wear shoes.

Yeah. And then just sprinkle dog shit and broken glass. Yeah, around her home, which is a- And now what are you gonna do? A piece of- You want those shoes now, don't you? Yeah, but you maybe- All right, Shane, is there anything you'd like to promote

while we're here? Yeah. I would like to promote, I was trying to think of a joke, but everything I said I thought might, nevermind. You can watch my new special on YouTube, it's called The Blue Eyed Mexican, and you can watch and listen to my podcast

with Kyle Kanane called No Accounting for Taste, and then you can catch me on the road, shaneisacomedian.com. There you go. What are you promoting? Uh, I do, you can check out my podcast, Sense is Working Over Time. Uh, wherever you, where you get your

podcasts from, uh, and, um, my latest special, Worst Daddy in the World, you can get it on YouTubes and, uh, Worst Daddy in the World. You can get it on YouTubes. And for any information on the upcoming shows, go to officialdavidcross.com. Okay. Now, Shane, we end every show, every episode, with a real question from my daughter. Okay.

Who's now seven. You do have a hook. I do, here's my hook. So this is a question for you, Shane, from my daughter Marlo. Does stretching your legs help your bladder take a rest? Does stretching your legs help your bladder take a rest? That's a pretty interesting question. How old is she?

She just turned seven. I don't ever think I would be like... We have a puppy, so she saw the puppy doing that and then she's kind of putting things together. Not for me. I don't know. I don't think I've ever been like, I got to piss. I should probably take a walk. I shouldn't go to a bathroom. I should.

Just stretch. Yeah. No. Actually, last night I was walking home from the cellar and I had to pee so bad and I just moved into the East Village. Oh, nice. Where? Okay. Yeah. And I just like, I was like, I found a corner to pee in and then I just like. Why don't you go to the bar?

Why don't you go to Sophie's or Joe's or. I'm not drinking right now. I'm off, like I, like, so I'm kind of just staying with. Wait, you don't have to drink to go in and use the restroom. I, I kind of feel like, oh. You don't want the temptation or? No, no, I kind of feel like I oh, you don't want the temptation or no, no, I kind of feel like I'm going to be like, I always feel ashamed when I do that. Like, I always feel bad.

I don't know why. Not bad, but like I'm like a little embarrassed that I just go in and pee and or, you know, take a shit or whatever and leave. I just like I'm like, I don't buy anything. Yeah. And you should you should get over that. Yeah. You don't think it's a. Rather than. So you peed in the corner outside and that's preferable than peeing in a place where the pee goes to a safe, a safe area. It's a safe for the pee. Like, I don't think it's, it's not really prefer.

Neither one of them are my, my preference would have been to like not. No, I'm telling you what my preference for everybody, including yourself, is don't pee on the street and pee in a toilet and then flush it what the fuck's wrong with you I okay I didn't think about it that way David I don't know there's piss here all the time it's like well let's have less of it I don't think that's a bad idea but I don't know if I'm the man to lead this charge like well then follow but do it anyway yeah don't know if I'm the man to lead this charge. Well then follow. But do it anyway. Yeah. Don't pee in the street, please.

It wasn't in the street. I found a. A corner. What is a corner? There's a vacant lot. And I went up next to the wall and peed. And then I just stepped in a bunch of mud. So I kind of learned my lesson anyways.

Because I was slipping kind of when I was peeing. When you say vacant lot, was it a community garden? No. Was it a community garden? No Was it a community garden if this community card and had a bunch of old dodge and eons like just parked in it that are No longer running. Did you just make up this vacant lot? No, it's there. It's like it's like there's nothing in it I'm well, there's no pee. There's one and I was heading I was heading east mm-hmm and I couldn't hold it anymore. I was on fifth, I think maybe fourth walking over.

Then this vacant lot. Why don't you just go to the graveyard on second? There's a graveyard on second? Yeah. Between first and A, I think. Is that huge? There's a guy, somebody who's buried there named What is the name it's the best name ever it's uh, oh It's it's not this but it's like spontaneous fish or something there's a very funny it's a great name Daniel gumball

It's a great name. Daniel Gumball. Like it's it's. Spontaneous. It's it's there's a it's. Fuck, I don't know, but it's on second. I'll have to go out to go like walk around and look at some headstone. Yeah. Yeah. Or maybe first and second might be it's either. I think it's second between first and second. But there's a big old, you know, old like 18th century graveyard Maybe first and second. It might be, it's either, I think it's second between first and second.

But there's a big old, you know, old like 18th century graveyard with a, uh, uh, like sanctimonious fish or something is the name of, uh, there's a weird name in there. Pittsburgh has a huge graveyard in the middle of it. And I was there as, uh, it's called Pittsburgh. Hello. You don't like Pittsburgh. I think it's like, oh no, I love it. It's a great town.

But I'll tell you what, I said this joke because I've done Pittsburgh, I would say five times over the years. I've done and- The room you play now there is the Bottle Rocket. That place is great. Wherever I've booked in Pittsburgh. So I've played Pittsburgh five times and I've never played in Pittsburgh. Yeah, if you played the bottle rocket, it probably, it's a bit small for you.

Everywhere is outside of Pittsburgh. For sure, yeah. Every single fucking place. Yeah. And I love it to have great shows, memorable shows. The people are wonderful, but yeah, you can get. But I've played Pittsburgh five times. And you're never actually in the city.

And I've never played in Pittsburgh. You're like, yeah, you can kind of see it from where you're playing. All well phony but there's a guy the reason I brought it up there's a guy in Pittsburgh who why was in this they have this massive graveyard mm-hmm and I was there seeing my ex and we just went kind of walking around driving driving around and there's this guy whose headstone is just a shark coming out of the ground. It looks like the picture of Jaws.

That's awesome. Yeah, it's like the movie. Oh, that's great. I was like, this guy went out with a sense of humor. A reason to get buried. Yeah, yeah. It was a good time. Yeah, that's my graveyard memory. Spontaneous fish in Jahl's headstone. I gotta remember it. Something...

It's like... I don't know. Yeah. It's... I mean, I should probably just go by now and... Yeah, yeah. There's a little plaque and it'll say it's... Oh, it has all their names or?

Not everyone's, but some of the local... More notable people? Yeah, we're... Do you remember what he was? I don't remember, but there's a little sign outside. Yeah. Okay. It's a weird name.

It's funny. Yeah. All right, Shane, thank you very much. Thanks for having me, man. Absolutely. Sense is Working Over Time is a HeadGum podcast created and hosted by me, David Cross. The show is edited by Katie Skelton and engineered by Nicole Lyons with supervising producer Emma Foley. Thanks to Demi Druchin for our show art and Mark Rivers for our theme song.

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