Senses Working Overtime with David Cross - Tim Heidecker

Episode Date: July 11, 2024

Tim Heidecker (Tim & Eric, Us) joins David in a special live episode to discuss his childrens' ages, Jerry Seinfeld and more. Catch all new episodes every Thursday. Watch video episodes here.Guest: Tim HeideckerSubscribe and Rate Senses Working Overtime on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and leave us a review to read on a future episode!Follow David on Instagram and Twitter.Follow the show:Instagram: @sensesworkingovertimepodTikTok: @swopodEditor: Kati SkeltonEngineer: Nicole LyonsExecutive Producer: Emma FoleyAdvertise on Senses Working Overtime via Gumball.fm.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a HeadGum Podcast. I'm a man who's proud of being me Hey everybody. Thank you so much for coming down. So I don't know if you are here to see Tig Notaro. Well, she's not coming. She'll do the show eventually. Do you guys know, and the reason I ask is because I learned a little something in the first show.

Are you familiar with the podcast? The concept of a podcast is what, no. Okay. So, yes, I have a podcast. It's called Sense is Working Over Time. And that is what we're going to do, a live podcast. I'm going to talk to somebody. Not a big deal. But it's very special somebody.

It's not Will Arnett, who canceled through his publicists who emailed my manager as I was getting ready to leave for the airport. Let me repeat that. He, Will Arnett, my friend, old friend, been booked for months, canceled, last minute, you know, a couple days prior, threw his publicist to my manager and then I texted him and I just texted dude question mark Haven't heard back That's some bullshit in it. Yes, that is some bullshit. So So anyway, yeah, so we're I'm just gonna have a conversation with a

funny smart So, anyway, yeah, so I'm just going to have a conversation with a funny, smart, cool person, which is what I do on the podcast. And that's what we're going to do, starting right this second with the word genius is used too much. So I'm not going to use it to describe this next person. It'd be unfair to Mark Twain. But I will tell you, he has been part of a redefinition of comedy and what we know as comedy and has put a stamp on a very influential kind of comedy and is ripped off constantly but he's a very, very smart, funny, brilliant, unique voice. Please welcome to the stage Tim Heidecker. All right.

Now, OK. Now, Tim, I always give the guests the option to choose wherever they want to sit. So you have, there's not a big distinction between these two. Sometimes there is, but... I'll stand. No, what do you mean? I have ten minutes. I'm doing a bunch of other Netflix stuff tonight, so... Oh, I didn't, what other shows are you doing?

The Greek, the Tim Robinson thing? Okay Ten and it's 945 so okay. I'll do seven is it you okay because when I did when I When we asked you if you could do this it was the idea the As we just assumed you would know that it's for the duration of the I apologize what so you have to say no let's say come on I'll skip the other thing hi Hi, thanks everybody. I'm sorry I'm sorry. I'm not TIG, but at least I look like a lesbian

Hey So yes, so I hate the room. I hate the sound in the room Do I? The sound in the room. I hate the sound in the room. Do what? The sound in the room. It sucks. The sound in the room sucks? Yeah. Why? Well, it's a lot of slap back. I would love a monitor. Are you having difficulty hearing yourself or me?

What's that? Yeah. Can we get Tim Heidecker a monitor? Or some in-ears, in-ears, in-ears. What were those Madonna mic things? What am I? I'm like Richard Dreyfuss on Club Random. Have you seen that? I know we're not the same height,

but I'm not having the difficulty you are with I'm like Lily Tomlin in the incredible shrieking woman. Hi. Well you actually look big for the chair so you'd be the incredible expanding. You got me. Tim thank you for doing this. You're welcome. It's good to see you. Can we drink in sync like that again? So I think everybody here, I speak for the audience when I say...

I'm cosplaying being interviewed by David Letterman on that show he does now. What? I said I'm cosplaying being interviewed by David Letterman. The beard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I speak for the audience when I say, Tim Heidecker, is there anything you'd like to plug? Your mouth. No, I'm not promoting anything. The Netflix is a joke festival. I'm a big supporter of that. I always have been.

I haven't been a part of it in any kind of official way, but I'm always excited to go out there and talk about it and do press for it. Well, you're a fan of potentially well-watched comedy, right? Potentially well-washed comedy? Yeah. That was one of their slogans. I love roasts. I love roasts. Yeah. Did you, did you watch the Tom Brady roast?

I love, I, sorry, I'm sorry. I have to interrupt myself, but I'm such a huge fan. Of gay jokes? Of what? Of gay jokes of what of gay jokes of Tom Brady and I want to see him ribbed I yeah he got his comeuppance did I didn't see it I don't know I don't watch Netflix I don't allow it in my house I don't think it's worth it. I don't. It's not worth it. It seems on the surface on paper like what is it? $9.99 a week?

And then is there anything I fucking am gonna get past two episodes of? Not really. They burned me because I've got two young kids, you know. I've got a seven-year-old and a ten-year-old. And we sat down to watch Baby Reindeer thinking it was the prequel to Rudolph. How far did you get? How far did you get? Four episodes in and then there's like rape and, know terrible shit going on it's terrible can I not for kids I I watched baby reindeer after my seven-year-old daughter recommended it to me and come on but it's a joke based on what he just said.

Like six seconds ago. It's like an inception version of what I just said. I had, here's the thing about Baby Reindeer. I think I got about three and a half episodes in before I was like, ah, fuck this. And I would not like that show if it wasn't based on a true story. I wouldn't care.

But I can see the liberties that the guy took, right? Sure. And I also don't, it's a pet peeve of mine when they do, when people show a stand up failing and they do all the, they tick all the boxes of the things where it's like the coughing in the back and the tinkling of the glasses and then the, and people going like this, literally going like this. And occasional mic feedback, like the mic is. Yeah, there's always feedback.

The mic is, the mic knows, mic's going, this is my way of letting you guys know this guy sucks. And it's bullshit. That's not, I've done, I bombed a million times. And that's not what it's like. Good nights and bad nights. Yeah, it's anyway that so I got I got like halfway through there. I was like, ah, fuck this.

You know, I liked it. How did you how did your kids like it? I was kidding about that. We didn't watch it. Wait, so. Did you but you watched it. I did, yeah. I was alone in a hotel room in Albuquerque. Which is where I go to watch all my shows. Oh!

Dad's going on another trip. I gotta watch Shogun. I gotta watch Shogun. Hello Mr. Heidecker. What's on the agenda for this week? Baby Reindeer, Shogun, and how's the Wi-Fi this week? Feeling strong? What'd you think of Albuquerque? I loved it.

We're doing a reboot of Better Call Saul. Really? Yeah, privately funded. What is the reboot? What happens? I'm doing Bob's part and we're just kind of, it's sort of a parody of it, I guess. Okay. I don't really get it. Have you ever seen it?

I've seen it, Yeah, I love it. I thought it was great, but a friend of mine wants to be this guy's putting a shitload of money into goofing on it for like like a shot-by-shot remake. Wow! Wow, wow, wow, wow. And how long... Such a waste, you know, it's like a waste. It seems it, yeah.

Bob's pissed. He doesn't think it's like a waste. It seems it yeah, it's Bob's pissed But it seems like something Bob might kind of Get a kick. He just said buddy. I don't think this is something you should be fucking around with you know So the sanctity of the yeah, but no I liked it a lot down there. Yeah, you did yeah I You did? Yeah. You know what I read it? Correct me if I'm wrong, but it would be up there, not down there, because we're in LA, so it would be up there, I believe. It's south.

But are you talking about the elevation? Yes. Well, I don't think that way. Does anybody think that way? Yeah. Three dimensionally? Closer to heaven, closer to hell, right? We say up to like. I think down is south, right?

Who agrees with me? Yes, yes, yes. Hi, hi. Well, I think that. You know, I'm from the south originally, and that seems like a negative connotation, down. I apologize, again. Don't mean it that way at all.

There was that West Wing, do you remember that show, The West Wing? I only saw the animated version. The presidency? They had a guy that came in to try to get the maps to flip so that you would think about the whole everybody differently. Remember that? So, see this crowd is on my side. I could get them to... I know, I truly never saw the West Wing, but what...

So the guy wanted to... He got invited to the White House or he just barged in with a bunch of maps? I don't remember every fucking detail, but I think he was there to pitch this idea that if the maps were flipped and Africa and South America were in where we consider the North, we would have a completely different perspective on the world. So this fictional president, who I know enough was played by Martin Sheen,

it got all the way up to the president of the United States or the map guy? You're jumping to conclusions. There's other people in the show. They were talking to the advisors. Which advisor? How did he get all the way up there to pitch his thing?

I'm not going to sit here and defend the show. You know, like, what do you want me to do? It's a vague memory of like 20 years ago that I don't really know the details of. Then why the fuck did you bring it up? Because it makes a larger point. What is the larger point?

About how we think about north and south and the perspective of the south because down there is a negative connotation. You said it yourself. Yeah. Check, checkpoint. Checkpoint. That would be the worst. Like I really thought I wanted to go checkpoint.

Checkmate. Check this. Check this out. What's the game? What is the game with the pieces on it? No, not checkers. Checkers. Checks.

Checks. Chess this out. Chessmate. Chessmate. Checks! Checks! Checks! Checks this out! Chessmate! Chessmate! Chessmate! Chessmate ass-ass-point. I did a show with Fred Armisen who-

Oh, here we go. The great Fred. The great Fred. This fucking story, yeah. And I said we were gonna do kind of, not like this, but sort of just a loose whatever, we figured out. I said let's bring, at one point, let's bring out a chess set and sit and play chess. And it just amused us.

We didn't know anything about chess and we pretended that we could play chess. Did the audience like it? Of course, they're there to see us. They were all... Wow. Their game. Wow. Their game. How did the thing work out when you brought all the drinks on? Did that work out like you expected? Killed. I almost fully fell on that step though and you guys would have all been star-bucksed. Tim right before we started, Tim was gathering all these things like, I'm gonna bring all these drinks on stage and I went, okay and in my head I was like, all right, we'll see how that goes.

See what you do with that. Well I feel like I just lost everyone where I bragged about my chest bit. Oh, was that bragging? Well, I think any time you talk about anything you do, it feels like bragging to me. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing to talk. Because you're kind of misinterpreted a lot. Yeah, yes. I'm always putting my foot in my mouth.

I don't know what's happening. What character was that? I don't know. Truman Capote? I was down in Albuquerque watching that show, The Swans. Did you do any work at all when you were in Albuquerque? I consider watching good television work. What does it pay? Spiritually you mean?

I don't mean like monetary. I just learn about culture and history and human dynamics No, I was down there making a big universal picture Wow What universal picture what was it was the universal picture It was called him and it's a Jordan Peele produced movie. Oh cool. I always have to say that.

It's not his new movie. It's just something he's throwing his name on. I thought you were fucking awesome in Us? Us, yes. I thought you were really great. Thank you. And it must have been fun playing that. I'm being sincere now.

It must have been fun playing that because you're such an awful person in that. And I know you can easily parody that and it's fun for you. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yeah, yeah. Yep. Talking is embarrassing.

Sure, yeah, I mean, I don't know, do you want to really talk? No. No. I mean, I don't want to make you uncomfortable. That's not my role here. Was I a jerk in that movie? Yeah, I mean, we were playing kind of entitled white, rich jerks. So then you've answered your own question. Yeah. I'm not seeing these movies.

I'm one of those cool guys that doesn't see. I don't see the movies I'm in, you know? I can't bear the look at it. Who is that? I guess Woody Allen, I don't know. Geez, I hate my movies, you know? I would think he's spent enough time in the editing room that he probably has seen it. I don't look at him, you know. I close my eyes. Are you, when you do that, are you

afraid of getting canceled? What, my bad Woody Allen impression? Yeah, yeah. No, I think I'm clear. Yeah. Did you ever, how long have you been in LA now? 20 years. 20 years. 20 years. 20 years. Wow. Yeah, 2004. February of 2004, I drove out from Brooklyn to make Tom Goes to the Mayor with my friend,

Eric Wareheim. Which you, by the way, David was the first person, because we had sent our little demo tape to Bob. And we were just huge fans of both of you. Believe me, to be sincere for a second,

it's always surreal to be around you or Bob. It's always like when you see... That's why we're never together. Yeah, I know. It's too much, man. It's too much. It's like when you see like Tom Petty hanging out with Bob Dylan or something, and you're like, that must be weird for Tom Petty the whole time. But Bob was very enthusiastic. Oh, because he's dead.

Right. It took me a second. It took me a second to go, all right, yes, of course. That would be weird. We've lost so many traveling Wilburys. But I don't know about this new traveling Wilburys. Are you into the newing Wilburys. Are you into the new Traveling Wilburys? It's so weird with K-pop and it's a K-pop version of the Traveling Wilburys with Wolfgang Van Halen.

Yeah. Jeff Lynn's still in it, thank God. He's still in it. Jeff Lynn, yep. Bob Dylan's still in it, which is nice that he's still there. Well, I think it's Dylan Walsh. Dylan Walsh. What?

No, but David was... So Bob really took to us and was very supportive right away, and we had this little short that we had made called Tom Goes to the Mayor, and Bob said, you got to get a famous person to do a voice and make another one and I'll call David and tell him to do it. You know, that basically, which you would of course do because you trust him. So we did this little shitty rudimentary recording of you, I don't know if you remember this, but you on the phone, because it was an animated thing,

and we just got you for 20 minutes, and that was the first thing we, you know, that anybody outside of our world was in that gave us a little bit of legitimacy. So thank you for that. Sure. And then you had us come and do the shows at Pianos? I was about to say Pianos. You guys would... John Benjamin and Todd Berry and I had a show called

Tinkle at Pianos. You were in Philadelphia. I was actually living in New York but Eric was in Philly and we would... Yes. If I had known that, I never would have let you. I know. Oh dear. Yeah, you know, I mean, you guys were great. Yeah. Thank you. And the rest is herstory, as a feminist might say. And they have a point. They have a point.

Because we say history. It's like- It's like the map with the North and South. I was about to say, I was about to say, what if we did a special, let's say Christmas episode of West Wing, brought it back, did a Christmas special like the Brits do and instead of the map guy, it's somebody comes in, a kid, like a Greta Thunberg. Oh, I hate her. You know? I hate her.

You know what I don't like about her? She's not as attractive as I'd like her to be. I would listen to her message, which seems very urgent, if she was more attractive. That's my beef. That's my beef with the women out there going, me, me, you know, and it's like, be more attractive and I'll pay attention. Yeah, to me it's the apping.

I don't care for the apping. Well, they can't help it. Can I get another beer, please? Thank you. Would you like something? No, I'm okay. I'm on my ninth. I was at the, I was in San Diego at the Dodgers game. I went down there and came back on the surf liner Amtrak drinking all day.

I've taken that train. It's very nice. It's really nice. It's a really nice train, yeah. But I wasn't at the game, I was just kidding. Oh, that's funny. It is funny. What a funny prank. Has anybody ever that?

Where the fuck is his beer? Like what the fuck is going on? beer like what the fuck is going on as anybody ever done like people who are they just they haven't thought it out I don't think but they tried to prank you with something oh thank you so much Thank you. Cheers. No, thank you. Anya, come up here. I'm going to show people your outfit. I was, come here, please. Anya. Anya is one of the producers here. Look at this outfit. I was saying that, you know, much like when you work on a project and then you have the rap party and then somebody, it's usually hair and makeup, they come to the rap party and they're like all, they got their dolled up in a way that you haven't seen before.

And that's Anya who produces the show out here in LA, the LA version, and I think it's very cool. Looks good. This is... Oh, you can go. This is the curtain call? I'm not crazy about the shoes, but anyway. Aw. Wait, but we'll talk about that.

We'll talk about, you know, you probably didn't have any time or anything. You're talking about, you're talking about pranks. See what? You're talking about pranks. Yes, when somebody does a prank that is completely believable and they're like, oh man, do you hear the news? What?

Hillary Clinton died. You're like, oh shit. Yeah. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. Okay. Dude.

What? Have you seen these? I got kind of, this is very dark. There are these TikToks. I love TikTok. I love them. I think they're important. I got, this is the worst version of this

because, so I started seeing these, maybe you've guys seen these, but it always is in this like Midwestern or suburban, big, you know those giant living rooms with huge couches and big TVs, with a big wraparound couch, and it's Sunday afternoon and the large families watching the football game and stuff you know these kind of people I don't know large meaning there's a lot of members

of the family there's like seven people there's bean dips and there's like a lot of things going on Sunday afternoon and in all these videos there's like an old son of a bitch this guy is just 80 years old grandpa maybe he's a great I'm so sorry but you're being serious right now I'm being totally serious I'm doing my best to describe these videos and I've seen enough of them to know they're all kind of the same vibe. That's what's happening. The prank is this.

Somebody in that family has rigged the TV through like Apple TV or something to announce an imminent nuclear attack. That's fucked up. And everyone's in on it except the old fucking guy. And it drives me crazy and it's so sad and sick that I feel like I don't wanna do comedy anymore. And then so this is like, this is an emergency warrant, you know, it's an emergency, this is not a drill, we are under attack, and it's very real. And everyone's like, watching granddad like freak out.

And it goes on for maybe like a minute, and then they go, it's just a joke. And poor guy is just like, what? Like what? I didn't even hear anything. What are you talking about? It's a joke. It's horror. It really is this dark, sad shit and there's a Reddit subreddit called I am the main character. Has anyone seen this? It's the greatest because it's a real indictment of these kind of people that do these pranks and touch people on subways and stuff, and are just trying to like, there's so much attention grabbing on these sites that it's nice to see how there's a perspective of that shit that's just like, fuck all of this. And what is the, I am the main character? It's just a collection of you

guys know everybody knows but you but it's a collection. Yeah I'm so sorry I'm in the middle of Nobel Prize-winning book drive your... You're reading it? Yes I'm reading it. No it's just like people are collecting the good videos of people just being obnoxious on the internet Anyway, and and just giving them shit Giving them shit. Yeah, it's not celebrating it. It's like fuck all these people Yeah, I don't know I You're not on the internet. No, I'm on the internet. I just I mean all I do is Don't say much Jake Paul. I just, I mean all I do is, I'm pretty much Jake Paul. I'm just all Jake.

Yeah, Jake Paul. I like him. He, I mean he's like a, to me he's, he fills me with hope and optimism, you know? And I, there's so much out there that is negative, hence what you're talking about. Yeah. Or for example, what you're talking about. But I, either Jake or Logan Paul, I'll get on and go, this is what America's about. He's a fighter. You know?

He's a fighter. Yeah. That's all I know about him. But he's a fighter. He's an entertainer. He's an fighter. You know? No, he's a fighter. Yeah. That's all I know about him. But he's a fighter. He's an entertainer. He's an entertainer. You know, for real, this is,

Bob and I, he came over to my place in Brooklyn. Dylan? Bob Dylan, yep. No, Bob, obviously Bob Balaban. So Bob Balaban and I. Oh, we can keep going with this game. I know lots of Bobs.

Tons of people named Bob. Bob Smith, that's what I call him from The Cure. But, no, little Bobby Odenkirk came over. Anyway, he got one of those city bikes, and I had my bike. And we rode over into Manhattan. We were going to go all the way up the West Side Highway. They just kind of just finished the bike lane up there and come back through Central Park, etc. We got

over the bridge and like halfway through SoHo, there's this massive line, kids, like, you know, preteen to midteens, tons, blocks and blocks and blocks. And there are cops and there are like stanchions. This is, you know, and in New York, it takes a lot to block off a street like that. And we slowed down, we're like, and they're there with parents, there's a lot of parents. And I'm talking blocks and blocks.

And excuse me, what's going on? And one of the dads is like, oh, the Paul brothers, Logan and Jake Paul, who? I don't know. We didn't know who that was. And they're like on the internet. And what do they do? I don't know. They talk about things.

Okay, and then we Google them, or YouTube, and you know, it's nothing, right? And then, no, it is, I'm telling you, it's a fact. That's a scientific fact. And then we riffed this sketch idea about Jake Paul or Logan Paul receiving the Kennedy Center Awards, but as an old man. And you hear his interior monologue as the camera's pulling out, like, I can't believe

somebody could get an award, but it's not him talking, it's literally the guy next to him that can accomplish. Anyway, we'll never do that sketch. No, those days are over, folks. Well, if he... Any questions? I have a hot take I wanted to talk to you about because we're at the Netflix festival here. I think I'm like one of the few people in the world that liked unfrosted. Oh, yeah, that's probably true.

And I'm getting into a lot of arguments with people. What did you like about it? I guess, well, I was in Albuquerque and... I just think it was fine. Like, I couldn't... Did I laugh? No. Did it set out to do what it wanted to do? Yes. What did it want to do? Do I agree with the... Do I think Jerry Seinfeld is an ass? Yes. What did they want to do? Do I agree with the, do I think Jerry Seinfeld is an ass?

Yes. But were they trying, at least trying to tell, to do jokes and there were jokes in it, right? And I- I haven't seen it. Okay, that's fine. Then I'll talk to these people. But let me just, you'll appreciate-

Well, listen, I'm going to Albuquerque on tour and I'll probably check it out there. I'm in this debate with my friend Vic, right? And this is just like an hour ago, this is our text exchange, if you don't mind. Mm-mm, not at all. I said, I'm about to do this talk with David. He says, just tell him you enjoyed the Pop Tart movie.

I said, yeah, I may just filibuster on that. Vic said, it made you smile. No laughing required. I said, well, more than I can say for Barbie. Personal, that's personal. He said, I quite like that one. I said, trash. Vic says, I keep getting mad about Jerry writing an uh-oh SpaghettiOs joke into the movie. I said I like those kids eating out of the

dumpster. He said yeah it was okay the milk coffin shit was horrendous why did they do that? I like that I said why is a why is a weird question to ask in a goofy comedy? Don't you agree? It's a weird try to wrap your head around the logic of something and he said it seemed unnecessary to do to the dead guy's widow I'm giving a lot of spoilers away here. I Said should have been more sensitive to her feelings Sarcastically then I said Moe should have be more sensitive to her feelings sarcastically then I said Moe should have be kinder to Curly. Oh that's always like Mike Drop fucking

done. Exactly right after all he's mentally challenged and then Vic said this is this is where it gets heated Vic says says, I didn't know this, he says, Jerry hates Moe, FYI. He's on the record about that. I said, I don't know. I said, I don't care. And then Vic says, I care about Moe. And then I say, I do too. But Jerry can make me laugh.

Can't help it as much as I don't care for him personally. And then I said, gonna read this text thread tonight. That's what we do. We get into arguments about Mo and- Can you text him and just say, just read it. Yeah. Just read it. You probably tech, I mean, it would probably take less time to do that thing. What?

It would probably take less time to literally text. No, it would be a mess. It would say bust, med, bet if I did it with my thumb. Because I've had a couple beers. Anyways, that's unfrosted. So you should see it. I'm curious if you could enjoy it. Any level of, if there's any way to enjoy it.

Are you in it? I am in it. You don't, you, this is true. I'm not, you don't see me, but the. Made service please. But the third Pop-Tart that he is experimenting with, I'm inside the Pop-Tart. Really?

Yeah. They, it was like a thing they were gonna do where you go inside the Pop-Tart and it's just my face, you know, in the Pop-Tart it's like, ah, hey. I remember that, yeah. And then, it's funny. No, they cut it out. Oh, sorry, I don't remember that, yeah. And then... It's funny.

No, they cut it out. Oh, sorry. I don't remember that. Yeah. And then I go, what about the soup, Nazi? Here's one... There used to be... In fact, I was just in Washington, D.C., and I went to check and see if it's still there.

It's not. But at Union Station, there was, for a brief period of time. I'm sorry to interrupt. I'm sure they were on my side, Vic said. What should we text back? Say what? What should we text back to Vic?

Well, I'll make a video of you guys just saying what you thought of Unfrosted. And go. Move! We got the bricks on! Oh shit! Wow. Is that to me or the movie?

Wait, what was I going to say? Oh yeah, so there was a place that sold soup in their like food court area of Union Station in Washington DC that was called the Soup Nutzy. Well, yeah. The soup, because obviously they couldn't say Nazi or feel comfortable saying it inspired by the soup Nazi but it was called the soup nutsy and and when you take the context of like he's a soup Nazi way and you just have soup nuts II if you're not familiar with the episode or the character you're like what the fuck is a soup nutsy why would I ever eat anything from the soup nuts II I don't want nuts in my soup weird and anyway Anyway Every conversation has its own natural. I agree low a period where

We all share the sense of like when is this going to be over? the sense of like when is this gonna be over? My most intimate and memorable conversations with my friends have been in front of lots of people. Well we can get personal which you I know you have two kids seven to ten which one do you love more? Be honest this will this will live on. I got a good dad joke that I use all the time. It's a lot of fun. Ask me how old they are. Hey, how old are your kids?

They're my age. It's a thinker. And then ask me how many kids I have. I'm still trying to find out what's funny about the first one. Wait a minute, what's funny about that? Of course they're not my age. It's incongruity.

Okay. It's absurd. Okay, how many? You might not like it, but you can understand what the attempt of humor is there. How many kids do you have? And by the way, when I tell it to the hair and makeup people they laugh.

How many kids do you have? Oh, I have no idea. Can I tell you, and you guys are free to use this, and this, my daughter delights in this. We were driving upstate and we just make up knock knock jokes, hers suck, but they make no sense. But I came up with this one, ready? Knock-knock.

Who's there? Mipe. Mipe? Mipe. Mipe. Mipe who? Ah! Ah!

Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah! Oh shit! You made me look like an ass! Oh shit! Oh shit! Oh my god! I can't believe you just said my poo! So that, my daughter loves that. I have a 7 and a 10 year old. Do it, do it.

You gotta give them the knock knock joke. They'll love it. I will, they'll love it they'll love it Mike Mike and they go my poo we had crisis at the house today earlier this afternoon we might and this is not a joke my daughter we have you know soda cans in the fridge in the fridge, not beer cans, like sparkling water. A soda can. A La Croix. What? A La Croix. Well, a Waterloo.

I don't, I don't, okay. I live in New York. She went to get one and it free-falled, closed can free-falled on her bare big toe. Yep, yep, yep. Full like impact. Oh my God. It was scream crying for an hour. Wow, what a puss.

That's an exaggeration. That is a bit much for, I mean after a couple minutes you're like, all right. For me, it felt like an hour. Shut up. You're fine. Was there blood? Was there a broken bone?

There was an immediate purple toe, like an immediate purple... What? No, you had to say it. What, hamburgers? I think she said that hurts. Oh, that hurts. It hurt. What, hamburgers? I think she said that hurts. Oh, that hurts. It hurt. She said hamburgers hurt. We're gonna get the toe lopped off. And then the week before she had poison oak. She got poison oak all on her face and her like arms and everything. It was nightmares. Her face. She looked like

Rocky Dennis. You gotta, you gotta move man. You gotta move, man. You gotta move from LA. Oh, here we go. I was teeing you up. No, you really should move to Albuquerque. I mean, that's so LA. Dropping a fucking full can of soda on your foot. That is what happens in LA.

That doesn't happen in New York. No. Because you got those mini fridges. You don't have room. Yeah, you bang your shin. You know. Yeah, there's smaller spaces in New York. So you have a smaller.

Just reminded me of something. When I, one of the times I was in London to work on a show and I was getting the flat for the run, you know, there for like nine months and the production staff would like send me pictures and things, oh this one looks alright, and I got into one and was like, and quite often just like any place where you're like, this doesn't look any remotely like what you showed me. And it was just a terrible thing where it was like there was a, what do you call it, like an air vent shaft. So the window, there was like a window, but it was just the bottom of shaft where there was like litter and stuff and and there were numerous things that

I don't want to be here for nine months and one of them was that they had a Half mini fridge and a half dishwasher, which seriously I've never seen that before it's like this big and And that was one of the things I said, but mainly it was about the air shaft and you couldn't open the window and be nasty. And a couple different reasons.

And then I walked into the production office and this woman, I remember her name was Fiona, is on the call to, what, is she here? Comedy, the laughter's ruining the comedy show sometimes. Sorry about that, I already got it. Wait, what's happening? call to what is she here? Wait, what's happened? What happened? Oh shit, we got this far into this and someone's telling us that. No, you guys, of course, can laugh. I can only assume you're laughing reasonably.

I am the main character. I, anyway, I'm sorry to somebody, but I don't know whose side to be on in this. I don't... I mean, I want to get into it, but go ahead, finish the... But I heard her on the phone going, yes, the flat is no... They had to get out of the contract, the flat is no good because he's from America and he expects everything to be bigger. Fiona, that's not what I said. It was one of the comments I made about this weird tiny thing.

Yeah. He expects everything to be bigger. Maybe he should stay at Buckingham Palace. That's what the person on the other end said. She's like, I know. Oh, quite right Tim have you ever spent any time in the Lingland? In Lingland? That's a way of saying London England without saying Lingland. Oh yes yes of course yes, yes.

Rock and Roll Gary? Yeah. I do a character, I do a guy named Rock and Roll Gary. Who's that? He's just a, he's just a sick, depraved, like classic rock guy that tells stories that aren't appropriate and disgusting, but it all gets, it's all like, well that was back in the day, you know? You can throw, you know, we were at the Hilton

in Beverly Hills, yeah, with Roger and Pete, you know? Moon. Ha ha ha ha. And we all went up to the roof with the girls, you know, and Moon, Keith Moon was wild, right? And he'd take the girls and throw them right off. Yeah. Wait, I'm sorry, he threw the girls off the- All the way off and splat on the ground.

Wait, I'm sorry, so no, so these girls were injured. Oh, they were dead black. They were just splat on the ground 16 years old And that's that was moody though, you know, he's a loon he's just out of control but that was rock and roll This happened more than once. Well, this happened more than once Oh, yeah, any city where you're in you'd go right to the roof and off the roof they go and Great broke though great drummer fucking great drummer, you know This is wild. Well, you you would think that the

Hotel would have anticipated and put like a tar, like a, one of those blow up pad things or something. No, no, he just got so agitated. And so we could keep doing it if you want. I like it, I like this character. It gets worse. Thank you. I just like hearing it in my head. Yeah. Guess who is Thank you, I

Just like hearing it in my head. Yeah, it's terrible. I like hearing it in my ears Doing on time. Okay, we got about Okay, what time do we start? We have three minutes. Three minutes. Is there anything you want to plug up? Well, I'm relieved. I was disappointed for the audience that your original guest couldn't make it.

I felt an obligation to step in and do my part to make this an enjoyable night for people. So I'm glad that this is over. Can I say that I think you were a lot better than TIG would have been? I agree. I mean, why go there? Why go there?

I love comics that go, why go there? Why go there? I love comics that go, why go there? Who's your favorite stand-up? Jerry Seinfeld. Seriously, you want to? Yeah, like right now. Right now. Yeah. Are there any people you've seen that you would go? I don't really see any.

I don't even know. I haven't watched. You're too busy watching Baby Reindeer. What's that? You're too busy watching Baby Reindeer. Yeah, Baby Reindeer. I don't know, who's the good standup comedian? I can't think of one right now.

You. No, that's not. No, that's not. Cut that, cut that. Neil Hamburger. Cut, edit that out. Neil Hamburger. Cut, edit that out. Neil Hamburger. There's this guy, Jay Weingarten, that I like a lot.

I love Robbie Hoffman. Oh yeah, yeah, she's funny, she's great. Yeah, Rachel Calley. Yeah, there are some really good, funny people out there. Andrew Schultz. Sure. I'm just, I'm obviously kidding. Yeah, most of it's pretty shitty I guess. I don't know. There's a lot of shitty comedy. I guess that's what I was getting at. I don't really care. Like, it's not for me.

Like, what I learned about it really very recently, sort of this with this unfrosted business I was like why do I I don't care I don't care shit's not for me shit's for me you know like there's shit that's not for me I try to try to keep it away from me so I'm with you yeah same I try not that whole Matt Rife shit, you know? Like I don't harbor any animosity or like... Which I might have when I was younger. It's like, it's not for me.

It's mine. people like it. Maybe that's a little distressing, you know? But it's not. Yeah, I mean, there is a jealousy, and then I'm just speaking for me, but it's like you look at guys that are just like skating through things with what it feels almost more like a grift

than like a passion project. It's like, and so many people are going wrong with it and there's like arenas filled with people and you're like, what is happening? What happened to this thing? But that shit has been around, the feeling of the grift thing has been around for a while with different types of comics where it's like,

he doesn't care. He doesn't have any, as you said, passion or desire or need to do this. He just, he's making money. Yeah, it's strategic. And remind me again of who we're talking about. There's like a bunch, right? There's like a bunch.

They're probably all part of this festival, I guess. Oh, a lot of them. A lot of them. Well, yeah, Netflix has a lot of shit on garbage. Just absolute garbage. I will say this, if you're a stand-up comedy fan, and I was telling Patton about this too, but Neil Brennan's latest special is one of the best standup specials I've seen in years. It's really good. It's a really funny little Neil Brennan thing. I don't really know him.

I don't think, well, I shouldn't say this because this ruins the joke, but Fred was on his show, his talk show, where he gets into the brains of comedians, right and Fred who I'm very close with and very Fred very nicely said that he thinks I'm one of the funniest people he knows I'm not you can look it up. He said it. Okay, I'm not and Neil Brandon very coldly very very clearly says I've never spent a minute with Tim Heidecker. I very clearly says, I've never spent a minute with Tim Heidecker. I don't know.

It was like, because I have a history of kind of poking the Rogan folks and stuff, you know, my stuff. And, oh, that was fucking genius, by the way. Thank you. Your Bob was the one who called me. He was like, you've got to watch this right now. And I was like, I'm, I'm, I went to the airport, went to, I got a ticket to Albuquerque and I went and I checked in. I checked in.

I think there's some of those guys that are like, I don't want to have anything to do with me because they're, they might get in trouble. But I don't know if that's the case with Neil. I think maybe he doesn't like me. I don't know. It's fine. Or maybe he was being honest. He was literally saying, I don't know if that's the case with Neil. I think maybe he doesn't like me. I don't know. It's fine. Or maybe he was being honest. He was literally saying, I don't know him. I've never spent a time.

But anyways, I think it was probably that. It was probably that. But I look, you always read into things too, too, too. Yeah. I don't, I don't imagine that. Why don't you set up a little dinner date with us? Yeah. Yeah, sure.

Little peacemaker. You know, I mean little break bread Yeah, I mean do you want me to say it like that when I talk to you? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean I can do that Yeah, I know I mean life is just all a joke and You know, I'll be like are you you doing a Tim Heidricker bit? And I was like, that's exactly what I'm doing. Yeah. But it's really good, what is it called? I don't know.

It's the latest special and it's really good. And it's good also because not just for what it is, but also it stands out in relation to the stuff we've been talking about and all the slick dumb shit that's out there easy. Where you can see the tricks and everybody's doing these little tricks. You know them as a standup, you know what the tricks are. It's just good writing and good-up, that's all. But I do want to get back to unfrosted. Is it, is it, is there literally no frosting?

Well there's a, not to give it away, there is sort of this opening for a sequel at the end. Oh! Because they're like, you should put frosting on this, and they're like, nah! And you're like, that could be the sequel. What a fun way to end it. Yeah. Do I think it should win the Mark Twain Prize?

No. But did it not? Was I lying in bed after working in Albuquerque? Was I smiling and not angry? Yes, and that's a lot more than most things get do for me, you know what I mean? Are you like me and do you, yeah. And so you think sometimes in the oddest context, but like when is John Leguizamo

gonna get a Mark Twain award? Right? You'll be in the bathroom and on the airplane, that's where it always happens for me for some reason. They're like when is John Leguizamo gonna get a point of award? Well they're giving what this year Ryan Reynolds is getting one. Very funny, very funny. Nothing? Do you know what they say at the end of one of his movies? Say it again. Do you know what they say at the end of one of his movies?

Say it again. Do you know what they say when they finish shooting one of his movies? That's a Reynolds rap! Oh, that's fun. That's a fun thing to... That's how I would end the night. That's what's leading up to ending the night with that. That's my big closer. That's a Reynolds rap! That's a Reynolds wrap. Yeah, that's fine.

Should we end on that? Yeah, yeah, Reynolds wrap, because that's aluminum foil. People wrap things. No, no, folks. So Reynolds wrap is an aluminum foil. It's a brand. It's a brand. And if you're in England, it's aluminium foil.

Aluminium, that's how my dad pronounced it yeah my my my dad would say aluminium and then he would say vegetables which I always thought was British British standard British pronunciation and then he and then I went over there nobody says that nobody. Nobody. They don't say vegetables. They don't... Well, thanks for having me. All right, Tim. So I close every podcast with a question from my daughter.

Oh, that's cute. I'm gonna steal that. Do you have a podcast? Yeah, Office Hours. Is that a podcast? Well, it is, yes. I think it's a TV show, because it's just on-

Oh, that's what I was gonna, it feels more like a TV show. Yeah, but we put it out as a podcast. Well, it's like your thing. What is all these, things are all TV shows. Who cares where you like, does anyone just watch their thing? Like you watch TV on your laptop and you watch this on your laptop or you can watch it on your TV. If I'm in Albuquerque, sure. Yeah. But if not, no. It just, it's diminishing to call it. It, I don't know, it's disrespectful. It's just, this is all just, it's entertainment. It's content.

Confusing. Sorry, you guys. It's really. Do you agree? I mean, it's like, who cares what it is? It's, you enjoy it. Thank you. All right, so Tim, this is a question from my daughter who's now seven.

I think she came up with this question when she was six, so don't quote me. Okay, but for real. Tim Heidecker, where do you stand on Israel versus Palestine? That's from Marlowe. That's from my daughter. Well that's very funny. My last name is Heidecker, so I have to be a little careful. Free Palestine, it's a genocide. Pretty clear. But for real. Here's the question. Ready?

Yeah. Let me get my glasses here. Hang on a second. Now when David says for real, I know something's coming. No, no, no. This is legit. This is the real question. And I think she was six when she asked me this one. And she comes up with, she knows that I do this, so she'll go,

I have a question for your podcast. All right. Can you still drive if you can drive one more mile? Can you still drive if you can drive one more mile? Ladies and gentlemen, Tim Heidecker. Thank you guys so much. Thank you, Tim. Thank you for a last minute filling in. Always a pleasure, always a treat. And I will see you all. And just a quick announcement. Do you have anything, is there anything upcoming you want to tell them about? Now that we're here? Now that we're leaving? No, I don't think so. I just, Office Hours Live is a podcast, I guess. HighNetwork.tv is where On Cinema lives, which is the greatest show ever made. And I'm in a bunch of movies and bullshit

that I don't know when it's coming out, so. Horror movies and TV shows, bullshit. All right to my doctor And you guys if you I'm I've got a Big show in Central Park August 8th if you're gonna be in New York I'm not even kidding. I'm not even kidding. I also have a show in that same summer stage thing in Central Park. For real? Oh, that's awesome. When's yours? With my band. I've got a band. We play music. So that's happening too.

When is it? When? I don't know. Oh. So on the internet, Central Park, Tim Heidecker, Simon and Garfunkel. Summer Stage. Yes, Summer Stage. If you can only go to one, go to mine. And then also if you...

No one here is going to that show. You might be in LA. It's a big tourist attraction. The M&M's store in Times Square. Whatever. Tim, have you been to the M&M's store in Times Square? It's wonderful! Also, I'm the voice of the Caramel M&M. Whatever.

Okay, guys. But also I'm gonna go out on tour all new stuff in September. Go to officialdavidcross.com. That has all the information for everything I'm doing and when this episode will be. And I'll thank you very much. I'll see you guys next time. It was a treat. Pleasure. Sense is Working Over Time is a Headgum podcast created and hosted by me, David Cross. The

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