Senses Working Overtime with David Cross - Tim Meadows

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

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This is a HeadGum Podcast. I'm gonna be the one that you're not in. I'll go for it. I'll go for here. Okay. There's not cameras too. Yeah, there are. Yeah, we're rolling. Hi, I'm Chris.

Hi, Tom. Nice to meet you. Now, put this on. Grab water out of your bag. Tim, remind me of the last time we saw each other. the the fifth probably honestly last night Okay. Yeah. You want to talk about what we've been doing? Or have you already told it to the audience? Well, I talked to Nick a couple of weeks ago and hadn't done it yet. So, and he was starting his first week or mid first week. Yeah.

So, we were talking about it, but now I have a whole new perspective on it. Yeah. Oh yeah, Tim and I made our Broadway debuts. In Oh Mary? I wish. What do you mean you wish? What we did was fine. No, it was. That'd be quite a bit to chew off for your first,

for your Broadway debut. Yeah. No, we did this play called All In, a play about love by Simon Rich, directed by Alex Timbers. It has a rotating cast and it was so much fucking fun. It was so, it is Vonsdale, yeah. Well yes, Tim gets to keep doing it. But your experience.

My experience was great. And it's the basically it's more than this, but at its core, it is four people sitting down in chairs and performing these scenes, wildly disparate. There was one about some pirates and there was one about the elephant man's physician benefactor. There was one about two baby detectives. So just all across across board, but very smart and very funny. And music also. Oh, and music, yes. Music from the magnetic fields performed by... The Besners?

Wait, do I have the... Bexens? The Bexens. I don't have my thing in here. The Bexens. Oh, do you have a Playville? I did. I was carrying it around with me. I was on Times Square, sort of holding it up going,

hey, look at this play. Hey, who's this? This guy looks like Tim Meadows. I should really do some more research. I should go see this play. And we were sitting in rehearsals and Tim and I have known each other for a long, long, long, long time,

but realized we'd never worked together. Yeah. All the mutual friends, all the various projects that I could have been a part of, you could have been a part of, and this is our first time working together. Yeah. It was nice. And it wasn't by request or, you know what I mean?

I would have worked with you over the years. I never said, I don don't wanna work with David. Oh, that's not what I heard. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, I, no, no, no, I have some recordings of you from, and it was, I know you were a little drunk. It was at the Bohemian Grove,

and this would have been back in early aughts. And you're smoking a cigar, you're there with Karl Rove and Nigel Farage. And. Two people I haven't seen in a while. Yeah, it's been a while, huh? And he wasn't invited, but he kept trying to sneak in Piers Morgan, you know? and you're on tape and you're adamant about, you kept getting my name wrong. Yeah, sorry. You were adamant about never working with me. Well, you know, it might be true.

I'm not going to deny it because I did know all those people at one time. Mm-hmm. So it's good research you've been doing. But yeah, I think maybe one project I didn't want you to be part of, which was the Michael Richard show. Remember that, NBC? I, no, please tell me about it. I just didn't want you to be a part of it.

They were gonna hire you to play like a reporter or something like that. And I was like, reporter number three. Yeah, it's something like first role, reporter number three in the Amelia Earhart story on TBS with Bruce Stern and Diane Keaton. I learned I was reporter number three. Not the first, not the second, not the fourth, not the fifth. Yeah, the third. So they were like, they said question.

Somebody had a line, they answered it. Sir, question, somebody answered, had a line. Here's your big moment. You. Hey, Amelia, if that is your first name, cut. We don't need the riff, we don't need the, oh, I thought the reporter, as I saw him, he was like, no, just don't add anything, please.

Just stick to the script. You shouldn't improvise during the, Amelia Hart's story's pretty much, it's- Reporter number one, question. Reporter number two, question. All right, reporter number three, you're up. Right, Amelia. Cut, cut. It doesn't, Amelia. Cut, cut.

He's not from England. Hey, does your heart sort of race when I go reporter number two? Oh, I'm amping up. I'm trying to get into it, not be out of my head, but I can't help because it's the complex, contradictory nature of what we have to do. You have to be in the moment, but you have to memorize your lines,

get your cues, find your light, all that stuff. So you're trying to be the character of a reporter of like vague Hispanic background, but we're not sure what. Peanut allergy, which hadn't been really discovered at that point. That's a lot of backstory, that's good for you. Yeah, I always, I always. You're like me in a way, like,

we both make shitty writing better. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yes, that's how I felt. No offense. That's how I felt when I was working with Spielberg on The Post. Yeah, I mean, you know, that's our job. You roll your eyes and you go, let's see what I can do.

You want me to say this? You know? Sure. I'll do my best. We'll see what happens. Who are you texting? What are you doing? No, I'm just, I'm gonna pull up the bill for the show. Oh, oh, oh, that's good, yeah.

Performed by the Bingsons. We were very close, Bingsons. Bingson's being since it's a married couple It's a married couple they do songs And I think I don't know when this will this will probably come out after this run of the show is over But Hank Azaria is replacing me. I replaced Nick Kroll, right you replaced Jimmy Fallon Jimmy Fallon. Yeah, and Yeah, it's been fun and our our lineup was just so fucking talented. I mean.

Yeah, it's too bad you're not going to talk to anybody else from the show on this podcast. You're still jealous? You think that's diminished your appearance here that I'm going to have Lin-Manuel Miranda and Annali Ashford both on? I think you used me to get to them. To make them jealous. Yeah, like you were like, Tim said he's gonna do it. So, and they were like, oh, really, Tim?

You got Meadows? You got Meadows? Wow, okay. You didn't even go over the list of people that you had. You were like, just using me, but that's cool. No, I, but they are great. They are great. And I knew very little about,

well, I knew nothing about Anna Lee, but she's amazing. Yeah. And she's a Tony winner. Yeah, yeah. And I knew very little about Lynn except for obviously Hamilton. And he wrote music for Moana and I believe in Kanto. But I don't know, you know, I hadn't really seen,

but he's fucking awesome. Yeah. And the sweetest guy. Yeah. The nicest. Like very normal. Totally, you know. Super cool.

Really cool dude. Almost like to the point where you're almost like, you don't have to be as nice as you are. It's cool, I'm gonna come down and talk to you before the show. Like he'll come up into our dressing room and hang out with us and stuff before the show. And sometimes I feel like-

Yeah, he'll try to get us liquored up on that nasty Doritos flavored tequila. He has some Doritos flavored tequila. It was not. And he was proud of it actually. If you, and he drank it. That was not his first bottle. Yeah, it was already

half empty when he showed it to us it was nasty it was like you could sort of taste a little bit of like the corn tortilla a little bit in the aftertaste but you know what i imagined it actually being this is a something we talked about i imagined to be like know, in Dune when they suck the water out of the sweatsuit. I do not. I haven't seen it. Well it's a book also. You don't have to just see the movie. I haven't seen the cartoon.

Whatever. It's not a cartoon. It's a comic book? It's just, start off with a book. You know, pages, it's written. Oh, with just the letters? Those things where it's just letters. Yes. Oh, it's just the letters those things where it's just letters. Yes. Oh, no, thank you, but in the thing

They wear the suits they wear all of the sweat and body any like liquid from their body is Transformed into water and they drink it later and when we drank that tequila That's what I imagine those steel suits taste like. It's like a really shitty water. So you think that in the, is it futuristic or is it another planet in the long time ago kind of thing? Do I have to go explain doing it?

No, no, just that. Answer that question. No, I can give it to you. It's in the future. Okay, done. All right, so you're saying that in the future, they have the technology to filter, you know, urine, sweat, bile, poop, pus, mucus into water, but they do not have the technology to make it taste okay.

That's the one thing they weren't able to do, even though we can do it now. I call bullshit on your little book. They didn't think, how about a little strawberry we put in there, just like a drop of chemical strawberries. They don't have some strawberries in the future. Those are done. Whatever, they could put spice in them.

You know the only berry, just for real, this is a true fact, the only berry that survives in the future, Logan berry, that's true. Logan berry. Yeah. Why is that? It has something to do with the skin, the skin of the berry.

I've never had Logan berry. Is that the furry one on the outside? Chris? Sure. Yeah. Okay. I thought you were gonna look it up. There's some new fruit that people eat now. It's like pink. It looks like a Georgia O'Keeffe like painting is like pink on the inside.

I don't know whether to eat it or hang it up on in my living room. It's so pretty. Why are you doing this other accent? Maybe Georgia. Okay. Trigger this other accent? Maybe Georgia. I just sort of triggered it. Where was Georgia O'Keeffe from? Where's she? I don't know.

She painted in New Mexico. We know that. Yeah. But I don't know where she was from. But what is that fruit called? You know what I'm talking about? Is it the, is it the, not the dragon fruit. I don't know.

I don't know the name of it. Well, you haven't done a good job describing it. It looks like a georgia keith painting That's what I'm supposed to go on. You cut it open. Okay, it's kind of furry and fuzzy on the outside But when you cut it open, it's like purple and then pinkish and then white and descent in the center And it's like yeah, is it sweet or? And it's like. I have no idea. Is it sweet or citrusy or? It's, yeah, it's just like a Georgia or a keep. No, it's, no, what is it?

It's sort of crunchy and a little sweet, a little salty. I don't know. So it's new to America or it's new new? Like they literally discovered it. It's new to me So that's all I can tell you well, so I don't I didn't do any research. I wouldn't be asking these questions, right? All right, you need to say come in prepared to talk about shit you would just say Kate I'm trying to get

applied Okay, well fine. So you don't know Just fucking know your fruits before you bring them up. All right, here's a new segment on this show. It's called Know Your Fruits. Yep. Here's one, it's orange and it has a hard peel on the outside. On the inside is soft and juicy.

And when you bite into it, it's really sweet. Some people squeeze it and eat it for breakfast. And un- And drink it for breakfast. A slightly unripe peach? No. Try again. Logan berry?

No, fuck. No. Oh, does it look like a Georgia O'Keeffe painting? If you cut it the wrong way, it does. And you mix your blood in there? Well, it gets, it's sort of orange-ish, pinkish. A blood orange? Yeah, like a blood orange.

Why didn't you just say blood orange? Because I wasn't thinking blood orange is the answer. I was thinking nectarine. Oh, nectarine. Which is not an orange, it's different. Oh, I like nectarines. I could have said tangerine too, which would have been, led you down. Or a clementine.

Yeah. Yep. But you know who is great in this show? We were talking about them earlier, Anna Lee and Lynn. Yeah. They were amazing. I would sit there when I had some downtime and just watch everybody, even though I now seen it, you know, dozen times, but I would just watch and go,

God damn, that's such a great take. That's such a smart way to do that particular thing. And to do it every night. You know what I mean? Like they would, we do it every night or whatever, but like they were always discovering something new or hitting beats and they are as funny every night.

You know what, I admire that because you sort of do that with stand up a little bit. I don't know about you, but like my act is completely the same all the time. So when I do it- Mine is not. You change, right? Yeah. I mean, I'm very extemporaneous. I'll just comment on very extemporaneous.

I'll just comment on shit that I mean, I have my bits, but I fuck around within the bit. Right. I'm like, you know. A robot. I am. I type into an AI thing like cars. What would a Tim Meadows set sound like?

Car accident. Make this funny. And then I get whatever it types up and then I just read, I do that on stage. Smart. And literally read it. I just read it. Read it from your phone. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. The audience will love it. Do they? They just, well. Yeah. How much merch are you selling? I'm selling a lot. I'm doing like, I do t-shirts, socks.

What about a software program? That's too much. I'm doing like, I do t-shirts, socks. A software program. That's too much, I haven't got that far. I like to do like here, I like stuff that people actually- Socks are good. Yeah, socks, t-shirts, headbands, wristbands. Okay, like a Livestrong type thing or? You know, they had that guy, what was his name? The bicyclist, Lance Armstrong.

They had a bunch of leftover yellow ones, like those yellow bands. Livestrong. Yeah. Yeah, it was strong like Armstrong. Yeah, we just flipped it over and it's just a yellow band. Oh, smart. And it's just go, hey, you know, I just have to do a joke about a yellow rubber band

in my show somewhere. Sometimes it's hard, because I don't really want to do it. It's like a speed bump in your act. Yes. You've got to shoehorn in a joke about a yellow band. Can you give me an example of one of your jokes, yellow band jokes? Boy, that's a hard one.

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Like an Asian type thing? I'm not going to say Asian, but- Wait, is it like, so when you say yellow band, are you talking about like K-pop? Yes. Okay, I gotcha. So I do yellow band, like, and then people go, what? And I go like K-pop.

Right, right. And then they go, oh. And then they go yellow band, I see, I see. Depending on where I am in the country, they love it. Sometimes they don't love it. But you know, you try to get that into, talk, you know, shoe horned in between talking about being an African American

and going through struggles in life. I go, oh shit, I gotta do the K-pop show. And then you, then you undermined it all with a racist comment about, about Koreans. Oh, smart. That's an interesting tack to take, but okay. And the only thing I never talk about it again or before in the whole show, I never mention anything about it.

But you have them for sale. I do have them for sale. Tim Meadows, Yellow Band, referenced, Yellow Band. Yes. Hey, remember the joke. Yes. Right, right, right, right, right. And I go, don't flip the band over also, because it'll say, live strong on the inside.

That guy was- Fucking asshole. Asshole, yeah. Yeah. Yep. So what about you? Do you have merch? Did you sell at your shows?

I do. I do have merch for the first time ever. I got talked into it and I don't- Are you accounting? Yeah, pretty much. And he's my business manager is, I've been with him since the beginning. Yeah.

And he is like a lot of my friends and he's a really good guy. And I know two people who, well, no, I know one person, very close friend who had an inattentive guy. And then I know one who got ripped off. Yeah. And I'm sure that's just people I know. I'm very close with both of them. Right. And I'm sure I know other people. So this guy's a stand up completely decent guy. He was at my wedding. Yeah, yeah.

And- He told you to get in the t-shirts. He told you to get into- Get in the t-shirt biz. He's like, you're leaving money on the table, kid. And- That's nice. So I have, I just have the posters. I don't have, I have stuff that is, I can turn around. I don't have to have overstock, you know? Like I think, I don't know everybody's size

and all that shit. And I'm not like a band that's gonna be able to just sell all that stuff and write it off. So I have limited amount of posters. I have a little kind of giveaway thing with a Tobias headshot, which I limit to each show to 25. That's it. And then I pick out a number of ball of it's on the back of your thing I'll you go backstage and we

hang out and stuff like that I'll sign it personalize it and and that's it I think oh and koozies beer koozies oh nice which I use do you what do they say on it something like it's the artwork from my tour, the beginning of the end. And so do you carry all that shit around or do you, it gets. You ship it ahead. Ship it ahead, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

It's really not a lot. It's nothing that can't fit inside the back of an SUV along with our luggage. That's the other thing. I don't have a van or one of those, you know, U-Haul things. So it's really pretty minimal. And you know, and I mean, I've made money.

It's not like I'm getting rich. How much money have you made off of that? Like less than I was hoping for, but I'd say it's total, let's see, I did, I'm at 48 shows and I think I've made, I wanna say $19. Wow. So I'm ahead. I don I want to say $19. Wow. So I'm ahead.

I don't know. I'm ahead. Seems like your overhead is pretty high. You got to... Well, I ship everything first class, meaning I get a first class seat. Seat for the merchandise. Seat for all the merchandise, yeah. And that's my promise to you, the attendee of the show,

that this is first class merchandise. It's not shipped in the hold of some big, impersonal UPS plane, whatever. It is first class. It's, you know, it's gotten its sleep. It had a quality meal with grains, ancient grains, a tiramisu for dessert. At least.

Beef short rib ravioli, right? And a sorghum souffle. That's good. And that's the thing I'm not a fan of. But- The merch likes it, so what are you gonna do? Yeah, the merch likes it.

And so, and yeah, so it's well rested when it gets off the plane. We get it a wheelchair. Right, of course. They're waiting, there'll be a person at the, you know, the gateway or whatever, is at David Cross's merch, and they put the merch in a wheelchair, wheel it.

And yeah. That's so cool. Yeah, it's that extra Thing that I do even still though the price It seems like you're not moving a lot. But like what like is there a price range on? I sell one poster for a thousand dollars, right? Okay, and if you want it great and not for $1,000. Right, okay. And if you want it, great.

And if not, you're shit out of luck. And so am I. That seems high. Yeah, I haven't sold one yet. We had not won? No. No. What's the lowest price thing you have in your merch? I have used toilet paper for three cents,

which I don't like to waste anything, Tim. I don't like to waste anything, Tim. I don't like to waste anything. Wait, speak of that, I have to tell you what. So I didn't get a whole lot of sleep last night. Okay, see, I think I was just jacked up from doing that. We had the two shows yesterday. You killed me. Went and had a couple beers and I was just, and I couldn't get the songs out of my head

either and I tried to go to sleep at a decent hour and I kept waking up. But anyway, my point is I was, I had taken my daughter to school, my wife's out of town, so got up, got my daughter breakfast, fed the dog, took the dog out, came back, got my daughter's lunch together, but well, I took her to school, et cetera. I come out, because I had to go, I had a doctor's appointment. I come out, and I'm just kind of out of it, and there's a guy peeing, like facing into my,

what do you call that little front area in a brownstone? Atrium? No, not inside the house, but you know, like where you would come to go to the bottom, the basement apartment. You know what I mean? Yeah, like the summer apartment. Yeah, but what do you call that area that's out there,

the landing? I don't know what it's called. I don't know what it's called either. Anyway, it's the front area, there's a little gate. Yeah, people put garbage cans there sometimes. Exactly, that's where our garbage cans are, yeah. Some people pee, go ahead though. Yeah, and this guy, and this all takes

like a couple seconds to process. Like he's standing there, he's pissing, and it's like dribbly piss, and I'm like, dude, really? And he's like, and he launches in his thing. I have a lacerated kidney, and he's kind of that kind of club kid tweaked fey kind of energy. Like I have a lacerated kidney and I can't hold my, you know, I have accident, you know, my life is just shit right now and da da da da da. And he's still pink. Well, he's still pink. So he can't leave.

Well, he's telling me this. Yeah, and I'm just standing there listening to this and he's going on and on. And then he like, there's not even a lot there. I can't help, I'm so, whatever. And then he zips up and I notice he's also not wearing a coat or a jacket. It's like what, 28 degrees, whatever.

And he just looks like he's like tweaked out, right? And then, and he's just rambling and all this shit. And then as I'm like, God damn it, you know, and then he goes, he walks, he starts walking down the street the opposite way and he's like, big fan of your movies. Okay. Yeah. For real, that happened this morning. And I was just like, it's such a New York fucking thing. And I'm like, what? Hungover.

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. You want me to sign something? But also, he said, it's funny, I truly believed him because he said, I have a lacerated kidney. It was the first thing out of his mouth. He was ready to go with it. You should understand this. Well, I kind of bought himself two seconds of sympathy. Yeah. Where I was like, what's happening?

You know, like. Yeah, I don't. Yeah, that kind of I mean, I remember like seeing. I got a ticket. I got a ticket from a cop. This is a long, long time ago, who gave me the ticket. And, oh, and there's some beautiful irony to this. I don't even know if it's irony.

It's just hypocrisy, double standard. Cause I'm realizing I got a ticket. It was for public urination. You did. Yes. This is a long time ago. This is like 24 years ago, something like that in the East Village. And I, and side, I'm going to digress for a second. My drunken, clearly drunk, my drunken excuse was officer, and because I was in a corner of like a officer, I merely found an indentation and stood in it. That's a quote for me. Like that's gonna get me out of peeing.

I merely found an indentation and stood in it. Anyway, he gives me the ticket, public urination. I have to go over and he gets my license and all that shit. You know, takes a couple minutes, gives it to me, he goes, you know, big fan of Mr. Show. Yeah. Thank you for that. Still, well, how much was the ticket?

Was it worth it? The ping? I mean, probably. But I mean, it's like what I said to the guy, like go to a fucking bar, go to a coffee place. There's a million places around here. And I should have done that. I don't know.

I don't, maybe, I don't know. When you're that age and you're in the East Village and you're all fucked up. Yeah, I don't know. You're immortal. Man are lucky though. We can pee anywhere, like if we can just find a little space. That's true.

It's, I pee in my car, like into a bottle. I pee in your car too, you know that, right? Really? Yeah, Thursday nights. Yeah, and I do it, it's a live stream, no pun intended, on YouTube. That's horrible. No, it's not.

We should, oh, okay. I'm raising money for Gaza. You didn't ask me if I'm for or against or whatever. Which is why I didn't ask you. That's why, because I knew we wouldn't end up having this big fucking conversation and it would impede the flow of money. And you're able to interfere with your paying also? Could be, you know.

Well. What if I got P-Shy because I was like, this is wrong. Now you get a conscience. Well, yeah, I got pee shy because I was like, this is wrong. Now you get a conscience. Well, yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I I I noticed I have to pee all the time when I'm going home. You do that. Does that happen to you? What do you mean going home? Like if I'm going home, if I'm just like driving and I get to the house,

as soon as I get to the door near the door, I have to use the bathroom. I have to pee and I go right to the use. I go right to the house, as soon as I get to the door, near the door, I have to use the bathroom. I have to pee. And I go right to the bathroom every time. It's like a, I think it's a psychosomatic. Is that the word? It could be. It's a habit now. We can cut stuff out though, right?

Or is this live out to the internet? Nope. This is going to the space shuttle, straight to the space shuttle. Because I only tell truth when I do. I know. So it's pretty, I'm such a. So what did you think of me like during the performance at the show? You know, hit or miss.

Like always, like always. But I'm a pro though, right? You are a pro. You're there early and you leave early. Don't talk to many people, Come in and do my job. Refused to be looked in the eye. And I think that's something I admire. Yeah.

It was, it was, it was so much fun, Tim. And I'm so glad we got to do it. And I'm going to miss it. I told you, like, I was thinking. The second, third day you said that. Like, I'm going to miss this. But it was, it was the, the feeling that took a couple days, I guess once we kind of got settled into the routine of it

and like, what a fucking great job this is. And I was talking to Chris Rock a while ago and he had done the play, Top Dog. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Because he had told this to Bob. And then I, when I was talking to him, I was like, oh, Bob said, because we were talking about this other project.

And he was talking about how much fucking fun it was doing. And he did a little bit more serious of a play. Like we were just having fun, fun, fun. And he was talking about that, like, what a great job it is, how much fun it is. And I can totally see that. Your day doesn't start, excluding matinee days, but you have Monday off,

and then Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, your day doesn't even start. You don't have to be there to like seven. You have the off and then Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. Your day doesn't even start. You don't have to be there to like seven. Yeah. You have the whole day. Yeah. And then you do this fun thing for 90 minutes, whatever it is. And go home. Yeah. It's great. And it's just and it's just it's solid writing. You know what I mean?

So it's not like there's not like points where you go, you know, oh, this isn't going to work. You know what I mean? Like, you go, oh, this isn't gonna work. You know what I mean? And we got several awes for that show. And nice applause and big laughs. Standing ovation every night. Sold out.

I was so surprised Super Bowl night. Two shows Super Bowl sold out. But yeah, two shows Super Bowl sold out. But yeah, you know, it was, the rehearsal of it was also something that I had not really thought about before I signed on to it. Cause I thought it was gonna be like

the vagina monologues or something where we just are reading and it doesn't matter. We just read it, you know what I mean? But we rehearsed for like a week before we did the thing. And I'm glad we did. Me too, because like, it was just like getting to know it and getting familiar with it before having to do it in front of people.

Yeah. You started getting comfortable. And it was interesting how, we talked about this, how every night had its own personality. Yeah. There's that first night where it's like, okay, here we are. First night, Broadway debut. And then you do it and you're like, who got it over with. Yeah.

Second night, like, oh, I've done this before, but still has a little newness to it. Right. Third night, the most relaxed night, I'd say of all of them, where it's just like, oh, we got this, to it. Third night, the most relaxed night, I'd say, of all of them, where it's just like, oh, we got this, do it, it's great, standing room, standing ovation, and then it was just a matter of, like, hmm, how am I gonna make Tim laugh during this part?

How do I get him to break? Oh my God, you were killing me, dude. You're killing me. That was fun. You made me laugh so hard the last night. I doubled over. When I said triple banger? When you said triple banger.

I doubled over laughing, almost spit water out of my mouth. Yeah, it was so funny. And it was also that last night, because I started laughing and I get teary-eyed when I laugh, I have to go in and get a nap, a handkerchief. Or a serviette if you're in Canada. Well, yes. From my, and to dab my eyes,

and the audience, like either that night, one of those two shows, it became a moment. Like they were laughing at me having to wipe my eyes from laughing at you. You know? Well, that's what my sister said, that was her favorite part, was watching you laugh at my silliness.

You. And it was things too that were making me laugh that aren't necessarily even funny in the script. It's supposed to be funny, whatever. When you would go, no. When he would ask you, have you ever been an actor? And it made me laugh because you would say it's so angry. And it's just a nice question.

It's just a question. Right. But also, I'm trying to do it in an overly affected actor way. Yes. With a little bit of this to it. Yeah, yeah. I'm not an actor. That's what actors would sound like.

It's so fucking funny, man. But yeah, it was fun. Well, let's not talk about too much more about what the audience cannot relate to in any way. Okay. So, shape. All righty. Too much more about what the audience cannot relate to in any way, shape, you know. Okay. All righty. And you and Lin, both, I admire this, but you both live where you grew up, out of the

Hollywood system or even New York. Yeah. And you're in Detroit. I am back in Detroit, Michigan. You keep saying Michigan. Everyone knows where Detroit is. There's other Detroit's. No.

Look it up. There's other Detroit's. Nobody is thinking of wherever the other Detroit is. Yeah. You don't have to say Michigan. Yeah. I've been meaning to say that to you. OK.

But yeah, I did. I moved back to Detroit. Detroit where? In the Midwest. Mmm, Ohio? No, Michigan. Michigan. Detroit, Michigan.

Okay. Because there's another Detroit. I know. Ohio, I think, or California or somewhere. But yeah, I went back and yeah, I was right before COVID really, I'm trying to think of when it was I know I was doing Brooklyn 99. When I signed my when I bought the signed the papers to buy the place. So whatever year that

was, are you in like downtown Detroit or like downtown Detroit, I can see the lion Stadium when I walk out of my home. Oh, wow. So you're near Smokes. I am not too far from Smokes Barbecue, yeah. I got to think of the other real place I was telling you about. Maybe it's like Robinson's or something. I don't know.

Smokes is the only place I've been to but for barbecue in Detroit Yeah, I would I would grab it and look it up. But yeah, it's this other place. It's so good You like barbecue chicken that'd be the thing you'd get right? I do love barbecue I'm eating barbecue chicken now only because I promised that I would not eat a lot of red meat I promise people that I love to love meat. But is pork considered a, it's white meat. Well, it's white meat, but I don't eat a lot of pork either. That's the most delicious thing there is,

the Eken barbecue. Yeah, I used to eat it. I don't eat it as much anymore. Like bacon, I'll eat. I do try to stay away from bacon Yeah, so that I can have ribs and yeah work and stuff but I like I'm like Yeah, just now I'm just trying to eat differently and stuff. Oh, that's good. Yeah, but

Occasionally will have some ribs, but not a lot. Yeah, but I do love barbecue chicken. I Do I was eating every almost every night before the show? Yeah Occasionally we'll have some ribs, but not a lot. Yeah. But I do love barbecue chicken. I do. Last one, please. I was eating it almost every night before the show. Yeah, well, that's why I brought it up. Cause you stink like barbecue chicken in that chair. You're sitting next to me the whole time. Oh, can I ask this?

Last night, when they started doing the pirate thing, did you sense that there was way more fog or the fog machine was heavier last night? I didn't sense it, no. I sensed it during the death, because it comes out when I'm still doing the narrating, and I almost started coughing because it's coughing dirt I mean that's a terrible thing when you sit when you're one of four people and you are about to start

Yeah, and I'm I'm like trying not to but I could have used a good 15 second You know that kind of thing because it was really It was really like and I'm next to it. I'm next to the fucking fog machine Yeah, and it's cute off it. I'm next to the fucking fog machine. It's a- And it's queued off of one of your lines too. Oh God. And that, you know, thank God you have like a,

you know, one minute of dialogue where all I have to do is go R. But because I'm like, how am I? And I was thinking, my head was like, I'm going to have to stop. I may have to go, you know, oh, excuse me, blackboard. And do this call. Because I was, something had happened. But yeah. I think, oh, well, I was talking about last night's show. Well, let's go on to something else. What were we talking about before that?

Barbecue. Barbecue. Barbecue chicken. Yeah. Which is my least about before that? Barbecue. Barbecue chicken. Which is my least favorite way. I love chicken. Barbecued meats. It's my least favorite barbecue meat, my least favorite way to have chicken.

Like it just, I don't like it. It's like, I don't like the candy sauce part of it. And you made a good point the other day when you said, like you don't think you shouldn put you shouldn't have had to Put sauce on anything adamant about that on on ribs for sure Yeah, like if you if you put it like a dry rub or anything like that. I like that. That's what this other company this other Restaurant in Detroit does Oh really like Robinson's or something like Memphis style. Yeah. Oh great It's like a dry rub and it's so good. I love that, yeah.

I'll lick the sauce off the paper. Like they wrap it up in paper, like in like old school. It's so good, man. Yeah, I'm just reminiscing about it. Cause it's like grimy also. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like it has a texture to it.

I mean. As opposed to like sweet. I do not like the KC sweet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just not a fan. And that on the, like, there's some, I'm pretty much strictly talking about ribs. Like you shouldn't have to slather a bunch of sauce on ribs. Yeah.

And it's all the stuff, all the flavors should be right there. Yeah. And, um, you like, do you like poutine? I love poutine. I do too. No, you don't. I love it.

I want to swap hats with you because I love poutine. And I don't love it. You don't. And Tim's wearing a, a scully cap that says poutine on it. And that, that was at like, like, that's like a what? Super dry or super fun? What's the font there? It's like, oh no, it's like a super dry, but

What's that company called? The Skates, Supreme. Supreme, yes. Supreme, yeah. It is like, yeah, they ripped off Supreme. Yeah. Yeah, I bought it in Montreal. But I love poutine.

And you know. It's just too thick for me. It's just too much gravy. I understand. It's too much. Oh, it's just enough. Just enough of all of it. Yeah.

And it's some of the best drunk food. That's, it's for good food. Yeah. And the first, before Bob and I had Mr. Show when we started- Bob who? Montgomery. He's my podiatrist. Were you part of Bob and Ray?

No. Yes. Okay. I was Ann. I love, okay. Yeah. And that, hello, that's me. Oh boy.

That's like a really bad sketch. You know, one thing that Bob and I wrote for this, it's in the book Hollywood Said No, which is a compilation of movies and- Siri, Hollywood Said No, put it on my reader. That's a great time. What is it? What'd she say? I'm not sure what you're trying to edit.

Oh, edit. But okay, and Hollywood said no. Hollywood said no is a compilation of two- Things that you guys did. Two wrote that never got made. Right, I love the title. And we had a series, and also there's some sketches that we wrote

that if we had done like another Mr. Show or something, but we just didn't get to it. But we had a bit that was a third rate, like Abbot and Costello, Lewis and Martin thing, called Faggot and Morello. And that just happens to be the guy's name. And he's always yelling, hey, Faggot. And so Bob was like whatever, Eugene Faggot

and I was, you know, whatever Morello. What is it? And we had the, and it was very, just ripping off those kind of two man things. Yeah. 50s, 40s, 50s. And, and then Bob would sing. He was like the crooner and I was the guy who

was always getting in trouble. And we have a thing about, a thing about, you ever see Abbot and Costello in the mummy, I think it is? Okay. So, you know that, I think it's the mummy with a scene where Lou Costello was like, he's got his hand here and he's just looking straight ahead

and it's fucking two minutes long of this, like, and he's touching who clearly is not, but Abbot, it's the monster and like, it's too, fuck him, and so we have this whole scene where it's the ghost of Jesus, they go into Lazarus's tomb and then, but it's the same thing as the Abbot and Costello, but it's Faggot and Morello and they end up getting chased by the ghosts of Jesus. Like in a sped up, you speed up the film. Hey, Faggot! What is it? What is it, Morello?

Anyway, that's in that book. That's horrible. I don't know why I brought that up. In so many ways. That's almost as bad as my yellow K-band. Well, I don't think that's bad. You knock out a lot of things with that one. That's funny. So what else is happening?

How long does this last usually? Like four hours and then we'll cut it down to like four or five minutes You until the guest goes I give like okay. I'm I what do you want? There's a tip jar over there if you want to the doors locked Camera fucking blocking the door When you go to Scientology and they show that you take the personality test and like here We'll we're gonna we're gonna compute your results, and why don't you sit in this room

and you can watch this movie. Okay, click, click. They lock the doors. That has really happened. Here's a really happening Costello movie we're gonna make you watch. All about Scientology. They had a Super Bowl add on.

Who did? Scientology. They had a Super Bowl? Yeah, they had an ad during the Super Bowl add on. Who did? Scientology. They had a Super Bowl? Yeah, they had an ad during the Super Bowl. I heard that there was like a lot of Christian ads or a lot of religious ads. Were there really? I know they do the Jesus, he gets us thing.

Yeah, they did one that was like different pictures of different people and different scenario, human beings helping each other or whatever. In a turn, it was like, you know, for like latter days, not latter days, it was for something. I don't know what it was for. Yeah. I wonder when they'll know whether they were successful

when they get their quarterly results and if their numbers have gone up. Right, people going to church. All that. Yeah, yeah. And tax-free income. Non-taxed. I'm all for it. You don't think we should tax churches and religious institutions? Well, yeah. I think, I don't really have much of a political stance anymore on anything. Hmm.

I started giving up and quit. That's why you moved to Detroit. Yeah. That's where people who are at the end of the rope go. Got you all. I guess what have you got to lose, right? I love it there though. That's great. What do you love about it?

The union, how's the union town? I love that there though. That's great. What do you love about it? The union, how's the union town? I love that. I love our governor. Think we got a great governor. I don't even know who our mayor is. I actually become more political aware locally. Yeah, think globally, act locally.

I know. All politics are local is what they say too. But no, I think since the past election, I've sort of I'm re-evaluating how I can help in the future. So what did you do prior to this election that clearly didn't work? I did, I... I'm sorry, I'm assuming that you, maybe I'm wrong. Did you, who'd you vote for? I voted for Jill Stein, no.

No, I don't like to say who I was. I want to print up bumper stickers that say, don't blame me, I voted for Jill Stein. But yeah, I did. I did some fundraising and stuff in Michigan. But, but I kind of felt like after everything that happened, like I just need to sort of get a feel for what I want to do like in the future. I still want to do something. I'm not going to like not do anything or not care. But I had dinner with a friend of mine and she's very funny, but she said, like, she

was going through the same thing. And then she said, like, she was reading the paper or something for a minute and she got emotionally charged about it. And then she goes, why do I even care? And it was, it made me laugh. Just that sentiment of like, why do I even care? You know? Well, I, I, but okay.

The reason that we care is because we care about other people, right? Care about people less fortunate than us. Right. We care about people taking power and, and, and the wrong people being empowered. And if you don't care, then no, you know, nobody cares. You know what I mean? But just the sentiment of why do I even care? Just made me laugh because it was like a question that I was saying to myself. Why am I getting so, you know...

Because you're empathetic. Yeah. And it's... And it's, especially when you have specific stories, right? Yeah. Because we have all these kind of, you know, macro stories about the aid to this, you know, nonprofit is gonna be shut off and kids aren't gonna get to go to get to go to school or whatever.

And that's like an abstract thing in a sense. But then you read a story about a person who died or you read about an orphan whose mom wasn't able to get treatment for a DNC and died in the hospital waiting room because of the, you know, and then it then you've been there's a face There's a picture and there's a little boy. There's a six-year-old boys now an orphan, right because of pro-life ironically pro-life well laws and And that's why you care. Yes, but also and that's true and also I know it from a personal level

I know how important government programs are for poor people. Yep, same here. I was raised on welfare. Yep. My, basically from the time I was seven until I was 17, welfare, food stamps, government issued food, you know? Yeah, I had- All that stuff.

I had different time period, but I had that as well. Yeah, and like summer job programs like in this in Detroit where I went and worked for the school like fucking throwing garbage, throwing out garbage and like or that you would go to, they would send you to a class. Like you go and take Spanish for the summer and we'll pay you $60 a week. And it was like, oh, you know, I, you, you, you're learning and you're also, you know, getting paid and you're getting, and you're like, and the food, like you're going to go, well, why give them up?

But it's like you, you could like, it was a lunch program involved in it too. You know what I mean? And then getting the money is like, I get money, you know what I mean? Like- Yeah, this shit goes back to the GI bill. I mean, that's where this stuff started. A lot of these programs emanated, which was massive,

you know, to get, and that's where a lot of, that sparked civil rights as well, like equality. It was the GI Bill and they put a bunch of money because we were flush and it was a smart thing to that. Right. And I don't know, I feel, I'm very torn about my, I guess I can have both feelings at the same time, about my feeling towards the people specifically I know, and then I can extrapolate to the people I don't know,

but the people I do know who I've had conversations with multiple times who were Trump supporters. And I think I totally upstate them in that kind of rural. And I've had over the, I've been there for 17 years, many, many conversations about this kind of thing. And certainly in the last 12 years, it's been amplified. But like, here's what I say to, and it's similar to how I felt when Bush was president. And they made those massive tax cuts. And they're like, thank you for the money. I don't need it. I'm a millionaire and you're taking money, I'd rather have better police department, fire department, health and human services. I'd rather have better roads, better bridges, better faster internet, better water, lead free water pipes, rather have an EPA. So we're taking all of that austerity measures that will affect all of us,

but you're going to get like $112 at the end of the year, and I'm going to get like $52,000 that I don't need, but I'd rather just, so you're going to do without all of those services and you're going to give me money and you're going to give Trump and his friends like hundreds of millions of dollars, that's our money. And you're not going to have any of these things. Short term it's a terrible idea, but long term it's even worse. You're going to have less educated, the unions will be weakened and hollowed out from within and they're going to be powerless. And you just fucking wait until, I'm not kidding, until they roll back child labor laws. I fucking guarantee it.

They're gonna start, it's, you know, and then there'll be people going, good, yeah, that's great. Yeah. You know, you're 12. You can work. Yeah, well, we'll see what happens. Anyway. I'm not, yeah. How are you gonna spend your extra money? Your Trump money.

The Trump money, um, strip clubs probably. I'm going to try to do trickle down theory, you know, pass it down to less fortunate. Right. Trickle down. Trickle down. Yeah, man. I have said that sentiment too of like,

well, okay, that's what you want. Like it doesn't. Yeah, thank you. I guess. Yeah. But the really important thing is, you're upset about some trans teenager in Portland, Oregon getting medication or health service.

That's why you're willing to give up all the goods and services and say goodbye to social security and Medicaid. And also with that sort of issue too, is like, you don't know anybody that's experience, experience, experiencing it, you know, like maybe out there in middle America or whatever or wherever. But it doesn't mean that it's not real. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't mean that it's not real.

And it that's the thing that really drives me crazy is like, with that whole issue is like, they're trying to make it, they were trying to make it into something that was like, this is coming for us. They're after us and they're trying to make our kids do this and it's like. Oh, it's the same thing they talked about with the gay agenda. I don't think you really

understand it. Like you don't really understand it. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. The things that they're talking about, although they have the side argument of like, you know, there's only, science says there's only this or that, you know, they don't have just merely like this is a sin against God, it goes against nature, it's, you know. So they have the, there's only two sexes or genders or whatever the fuck. But it's the same thing. It's the same, you know.

Yeah. And I, yeah, it's like now it's, it's become more personal for me anyways, like, like. And it translates over into other things that I believe in politically and socially and stuff. And you you have had probably the longest transition period of anyone I've known. You're still pretty much the same. Yeah. I don't know who you're going to. I'm very... They're not doing a great job. I'm very slow, very slow.

Is that because of your, just biologically or just the, you've stopped taking your med... I don't... I just sort of just decided to hold off for a few minutes. I want to see what- A few minutes? Yeah, for a few little bit. I want to see how the country's gonna go. Oh, okay. Well, good luck with that.

Thanks. Best of luck. I'll put my finger in and see what's happening. No, but I would say that my awareness and my empathy for people different from me has definitely transitioned and I've gotten more understanding and less like shocked by alternative lifestyles and. Yeah, same here. Yeah. You know, I think when I first got in to showbiz, I think I was a lot more like, wow, this is different from what I'm used to.

But I also say that's like what middle America is like. It's like, well, if you're not experienced, if you don't experience it, if you don't know people from these backgrounds, you don't experience it if you don't know people From these backgrounds you don't see them as humans. You see them as these other. I have a whole bit about that Oh, go ahead, but it's no it's funny. Okay, but it's a About how the only way we make progress in this country is when the people oppressing other people have a personal experience with the people They're pressing you know, and then it goes into this very funny bit. I would imagine that it probably is your closer. Is that your closer?

No, but it's getting towards the end. Yeah. We're building up to the closer. Yeah. Yeah, man, I don't know. I feel like I'm friends with Harper Steel, the writer of the show. Yeah, I knew Harper as Andrew., the writer of the show. Yeah, I knew Harper as Andrew. I've worked on a show with her, then him. Yeah.

Yeah. And I love her. And she's the first person that I knew personally that transitioned, you know, and came out. And I had like... Boy, I did not see that coming either. I didn't either. Yeah. And I knew her really well.

Yeah. Like we wrote Ladies Man together. We wrote it SNL together. We have been friends for 25, 30 years or something. But, and she's one of my best friends, one of my closest friends, you know. But when that all happened, I totally. Had to like look at myself in the mirror and go like, OK, how are you a fucking mouthpiece?

Are you how how how empathetic are you are? Are you? To somebody that you love and care for and respect. And they are going through this thing that like is gonna be life-changing, you know. And difficult. And difficult. Extremely difficult. And scary and everything else.

And you gotta see the environment. Slide back into pitchforks and yeah, you know, torches. But yeah, she it and it's it challenged me to like really. Like question, like not even question, but just like I had to step up to the fucking plate, like, you know. So yeah, yeah, it's been it's been good. It's been good. And I just think that's another thing is like you once you once it becomes like Like once it becomes like real to you, it changes.

I know a couple of adults. I don't know them well. They're both totally cool. But the thing that really made me ask and answer a lot of questions to myself, much in the same way you're describing, I know two kids. And I mean kids. And one, I mean, they're both very good friends with my daughter. And there's not a doubt in my mind that this is a phase. And I'm talking about when one girl was three, when she said, daddy, I'm a girl. You know, I'm a girl who loves my penis. That's what she said. She was three. And I know her as a girl and she's a girl. And I know then there's another kid in my,

one of my daughter's best friend, I think if you asked her to name your best friend, it would be this person. And then has been in class since pre-K, so now in second grade. They live down the street. And then she said the same thing, I'm a boy, caught off all her hair and now I only see a boy. And there's nothing forced, none of the parents, I'm imagining, I know both sets of parents and I'm imagining it was a, you know, they're both very fair minded, you know, rational progressive people. So they probably like, okay, this is going to be tough. We're going to go through some tougher things when he or she gets older. They're both in very friendly environments. One's in New York, one's in LA, so like-minded people. People are sympathetic, empathetic, gonna let them live their lives as best they can

without shooting them or beating them with bats or chasing them or denying them things. And that's, I mean, I picture those kids. And again, I see these kids all the time and I picture them when there's the kind of abstract thing about they're shutting off kids in Indiana are not going to have any access to this thing. And it's, it's, there's going to be more suicide, unfortunately. Yeah. And I don't know, I blame the Electoral College. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, it's a lot. It's a lot. Yeah. And- But I want to go back because I was in the middle of saying this is the greatest country that ever existed in history. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. Do you want to stand up? I'm standing up right now. This country gives me a boner. It does. I want to stand up? Or? I'm standing up right now. This country gives me a boner. It does. I want to fuck this country.

I want to fuck it so much. From behind. From Florida all the way up to fucking Maine. Oh, I was going to go up to Seattle. You know what? I have a bigger shaft, so there's more thing to cover. Yeah. I just want to hit the East Coast. Just get the East Coast. Just fucking give it to cover. Yeah, I just want to I'm gonna just want to hit the East Coast just get these

Give it to it here Boston takes on World idea come on 13 Kyle original colonies Let's see how you ride a dick I'll look at you across the country. high five from the spit roast spit roast America We should do a tour that we'll call it spit roast tour Tim Meadows and David Cross Fucking America or no actually probably if we want to make some money David Cross and Tim Meadows. Yeah, don't spit spit roast tour

Yeah, hey, do you? speaking of which, do you plug some shows that you got? I know you have some coming up, right? I do, I'm going to Winnipeg. I'm gonna be in Winnipeg. I'm gonna be in Winnipeg too. Yeah, we sort of-

Wait, where are you there? I'm there. Or when are you there? I'm next week, so- Oh, I'm just gonna miss you. I rap, and we do the SNL 50th next weekend and then I'm off for a few days the following week and then I go to Winnipeg For like that weekend. So it's like the 20th 22nd or something like that of um, oh February. I'm there in March. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I'm there a little bit

I'm soon. I'm there soon But now I had March. Okay, yeah, yeah, I'm there a little bit. I'm soon, I'm there soon. Now, I had James Austin Johnson on the show. Really funny, really funny dude. And I had him, so his episode is going to come out after the SNL 50th show. So I'm going to ask you to do the same thing. I mean, how many times you get this opportunity? To, because it'll come out after it airs. Okay. To talk about, give one, talk to the audience as if it was a tremendous success and then also one as if it was a tremendous failure and how 50th yeah okay so do this success to camera or just see talk it that's camera yeah I'll go here boy the 50th

anniversary it was such a success I mean to see Bruce Springsteen Paul McCartney Taylor Swift. Wow. Do these songs, they just performed these songs together and it was amazing. And they brought me up on stage and I was like, I did cowbell even though they had Will Ferrell. Wow.

So it was a dream come true. So thank you to the, to Bruce, the boss, Paul, Sir Paul and Taylor, the woman I'm dating. Wow, that was a success. Yeah, a success. That just happened. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah.

Okay. Now, in case it goes tits up, what do you have to say? Boy, SNL 50th was a failure. They had Menudo reunited, which who was asking for that? We had to sit there and they did like six songs. I don't know any of these songs that they're playing. They did it all in Spanish, you know, so it was like just a waste of time. The lower third thing wasn't working, so we didn't even know what the lyrics were.

So that happened. And then Chris Rock punched me in the back of the head because I was bobbing along the minuto and he was like, you fucking asshole. And so he hit me, turned around, we started getting into it. Sandler broke it up, but his pants fell down. And then his his head, one of these like fake tuxedos where the thing rolls up, but his pants fell down. And then he had one of these fake tuxedos where the thing rolls up, you know, and he was pushing it down. It was just like, it was crazy.

And then Radio City caught on fire, which was pretty horrible. How did that happen? It was Taylor Swift had did a candle number. Oh, okay. And she had a choir, a bunch of kids sitting around her. Cause I didn't see, I heard, and I obviously saw the news footage

and it was like the whole fucking place went down. Yeah, they candles all around, then they were like, had a helicopter come in, like Miss Saigon, you know that play? And the helicopter started like, and then the candles fell caught on fire Yeah, all the costumes were made out of paper, which was stupid. Yeah. Anyways, it's not bright. No candles and paper Anyways any survivors? No. Oh

No showbiz is starting over Well, thank you Tim thanks for that and we'll figure out which one goes out. I hope this is a good one. Yeah, we'll see. You never know. Now, Tim, I close every episode with a question from my daughter. Oh. Okay. Yep. Still seven, but by the time this goes out,

she will be eight. Her birthday is next week. Yep. Okay, but here is- Does she know who I am or is this just questions? These are just questions. I asked her to come up with questions for my podcast and then she'll either say something and say, that'd be a good question for your podcast or daddy, I have a question for your podcast. Okay. And this is one of them. All right.

Why do electricity and water not go together? Wow. That's a good question from your daughter. I really don't know scientifically why they don't go together. But if they do meet and you're in the middle, you're the loser, first of all. So, but I think it has something to do with the positive

and negative charges from electricity. I can't answer. This is for you to answer in any way you see fit and I will stay out of it. Yeah, well, I think I really don't know scientifically why they don't. I'm just an actor. Just, I don't know. She's been hearing that a lot lately.

Really? From you? Yeah. She'll ask me about stuff or can't she have something or whatever. Why does this thing? I'll be like, honey, I'm just an actor. Yeah. All right? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. And the questions get harder. Like when they're younger, it's easier. Where's bread? How do we get bread? Oh, I can tell you that. That's easy.

Yeah, it's easy. I just figured that out. But then you get... What is death? Yeah, brain twizzler like why do electricity and water not go together? You got me. That's why you're going to school. Yeah. But yeah, tell us when you get a little older.

Yeah. I wish I knew. I don't have an answer. That's okay. And I'm too tired actually too. I'm fucking wiped out, man. Because I've been going, I had about a half hour in between dropping my daughter off and having to go to the doctors, but I've been going nonstop.

Didn't sleep very well last night. No, it wasn't coke. It was- I didn't say anything. You won't like this. Oh no, I'm just, I'm a little stuffed. I did a hot yoga class this morning before I came here. Hot yoga is the best.

Yeah. Really good. You do it? I did a hot yoga class this morning before I came here. Hot yoga is the best. Yeah. Really good. Um. You do it? I did. There's, I know they have it at this amazing gym that's down the street for me that I signed up for to get a little bit better shape to hike Machu Picchu. And then once I, and I truly believe this, like, oh, this is great. Once I come back, I'll really get into it.

And then I just fucking have been once I think, you know, in six months. That's a boy. It's, it's literally down the street. What a quitter. Oh, yeah. You even did it once and you were like, I did a bunch and then got ready to go on this, you know, pretty strenuous hike and did that.

And then thought, now I'm being even better. I lost, dropped five pounds, you know. I need to lose like 11. Yeah. I'd be good with 11. I dropped five, I was getting closer. It's like, all right, let's keep going, let's keep going. And I think I went once and then.

Ah, fuck it. But also to be fair, I went out on tour in September and that was still like, that was still a good seven weeks, at least that I didn't go before I went out on tour. And then just tour. Yeah. You don't have before I went out on tour. And then just, you know, tour. Yeah. You don't have a chef or anything? No, I don't.

Yeah, I got a chef. Chef Boyardee. Ha ha ha! Drop the checks. No, I do not have a chef. That's too bad. First time I ever saw that. I was- A chef?

A private chef. Oh, okay, yes. I was writing with Rob Cohen, if you know Rob. I know Rob. I think he's done little stints here and there on SNL, I think, briefly. Yeah, he did. That's right. And Rob and I were writing this movie called The Towering Disaster for Ben Stiller and

Judd Apatow. And we were in some very empty office building in Burbank. And we'd been there for a couple of weeks and nobody else was there with two other people there. And then all of a sudden this like a third of the entire floor is being taken over and they're doing stuff. And it was a Sinbad show. I can't remember if it was a talk show or something. I feel like it was a talk show or something. And they kitted out one room, which would be like a small conference room, right?

Windows overlooking the valley. And that's where his private chef was. Sinbad. Sinbad had a private chef. And he was there and he wore the tuque and the chef's white, I'm not kidding. And he had like hot plates, like, you know, an omelet bar? It was like basically an omelet bar for Sinbad.

Was it an omelet bar, basically? It was basically an omelet bar. But the guy wore his chef's stuff. So he wore his chef's stuff, yep. That was the first time, and the concept even occurred to me. I was really new to Hollywood. I mean, I'd gotten out there to write on The Stiller Show and then went right into writing this thing with Rob,

who's another writer on The Stiller Show. And so I was, I mean, I hadn't even been there a year yet. And I'm like, you got a private chef at your, at this office in Burbank? Sinbad, Sinbad. It was Sinbad. Yeah. I remember this, and this office in Burbank. Sinbad, Sinbad, it was Sinbad. It was a private chef. I remember this, and this is like a long time ago, but you were doing, you changed my life. I'm gonna tell you what happened.

Oh, here we go. You were doing a pilot for some, I don't know if it was for CBS or something, but Besser, Matt Besser was on it. Yeah. Or doing something on it. No, it was for HBO. Yeah. Or doing something on it. No, those were HBO. HBO. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I came by to see Besser and it was in between a break and we're going to have lunch or whatever. And then you came over and we'd already met, we'd known each other before that. And then you said, and I was going, I had gotten divorced and was sort of just like fucking trying to get myself back out there or whatever. And Bester was very like integral in getting me back into an improv. But anyways, I went by the set and you guys are broke

and then you came over to me and you looked at me and you went, you have on, you look like a walking advertisement. You have on a Nike hat, an Adidas shirt, pants from so-and-so and your shoes are from so-and-so. Like, why do you dress like a commercial? That was what you said to me basically. Yeah.

And I was like, oh wow, I never really noticed that before. And from that day on, I would, for a while, I would not wear clothes that had any kind of bright. I don't wear, if you want me to advertise your clothes, then you pay me, or you give this to me for free. I'm not getting a big fucking Nike swoop over here and advertising your shit. But I did, I remember thinking,

because nobody had ever said that to me before either. And I don't think it was like, oh, I just came from working out. And I was just like, oh, I'll stop by the studio. You weren't even aware that all your clothes, just the ensemble you had chosen. Yes, was a complete advertisement for some corporations. And then I totally, after that was just like,

I'm never doing that again. I'm going to be more aware of it. You know what I mean? So anyways, yeah, thanks for like, you know, making me more... Shaming you? Well, shaming me into... Was it shame or was it more like, what are you doing?

Well, you said it in front of a bunch of people. So I think it was shaming. Nobody laughed. Right. That was not my intent, clearly. You know, I don't know, but it was very, I just remember it did like, I was like, oh yeah, wow. Well, also you don't, you're not that guy either.

And I- I am not that guy. I know you from way back and you also, like you were never that guy. So it was a little weird. Yeah, it was probably, I don't know. Midlife crisis kind of. I probably went to TJ Maxx or something

and just like grabbed a bunch of shit. During that period I wasn't really thinking clearly. Right. But. I know you had a Flamin' Hot Funyuns hoodie. He loved Flamin' Hot Funyuns hoodie. He loved Flamin' Hot Funyuns. You love it. All right. Oh, there he goes.

It was a limited edition of Funyuns. Sure. And I thought, hey, these are gonna last. Cause they're so good. Give me a hoodie. I'll take a hoodie. I'll take a hoodie I'll pay double They're like we're giving them free

I'm paying you I'm paying you I want to wear this around All right, man All right. Do I walk out like I came in just get my bag and get the fuck out So I'll see you Saturday night. You go to that. Oh, great. Oh, for sure. The the last party. You think whatever. Yeah. Cool. Since is Working Overtime is a headgum podcast created and hosted by me, David Cross.

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