Serialously with Annie Elise - 176: Serial Abductor CAUGHT, Madeleine Soto Emails Leaked, TikTok BF Shoots GF & Baby Found Crawling on the Highway

Episode Date: July 18, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey true crime besties, welcome back to an all-new episode of Serialistly with me, Annie Elise. You know it, say it with me, headline highlights edition. We are breaking down all of the new cases that are happening this week in the true crime world. We also are revisiting a couple cases that have some very important updates in them, such as the Madeline Soto case, Preston Lord case. There's one with the guy, Timothy Hazlett, who had trapped a woman in his basement. She escaped. It's a wild, wild case because it seems like he was like a serial abductor. And then we have some new cases, of course.
Starting point is 00:01:01 So we're going to go through all of it, all of it together. Aside from that, what else is going on? Let me think, let me think. Is there any other announcement I need to make? I don't think so. I'm flying to Florida tomorrow for 36 hours to film a very special project, a case that is near and dear to my heart. So I'm excited to be able to share that with you guys soon once that bully
Starting point is 00:01:25 comes to fruition. And then other than that, we had our deep dive episode that released just this last Monday. It was on the Springfield 3 case. It's actually a really wild case if you're not familiar with it. Three women basically vanished from their home. They were all under the same roof. And it's kind of shady. There's like some really weird suspicious things along the way. But basically friends went up to this house. They noticed that the light bulb was shattered, that the, I can't remember, was the door open? Something was weird at the entry point. And these women just vanished. And all three of them together. It's really wild. So if you haven't listened to that yet, I highly encourage you to do so
Starting point is 00:02:06 because it is definitely an interesting case. And I've seen a lot of you guys in the comments giving your theories and your perspectives. And I always love that because I love when we get the dialogue going, which kind of actually dovetails perfectly. Spotify recently, I don't know where you listen to this podcast,
Starting point is 00:02:22 Apple, Spotify, iHeart, wherever, but Spotify recently updated their platform with where you can do the Q&A section. So basically, if you're listening on Spotify, you may know this, but you're able to comment on an episode when you're listening to the podcast through the app. And before, we weren't able to respond to these comments. We could publish them on the main feed of the podcast so that they're visible to the public, but we never were able to engage in them. And now, since this update happened, we're able to reply back. We're able to like the comments. We're still able to publish them so other people see your comments. And it's different than the review
Starting point is 00:02:58 section. It's just on Spotify, and it's their Q&A section. So if you guys were doing that in the past, I loved it. You would see that I would publish it, but now I'm super excited because I actually can comment back and we can engage in that way. So definitely check that out. But anyways, let's jump right into the first case we're going to be talking about today, and that's Preston Lord. Now, we recently covered the ongoing investigation and the case involving Preston Lord, but just to give a quick recap, Preston was a 16-year-old boy in Arizona who died at a house party last October.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Preston was violently attacked by this group of teenagers who dubbed themselves the Gilbert Goons, which sounds kind of just like what I'm saying. It's like these little twerpy teenage kids who think they're tough. But anyways, after he died, more and more stories about the Gilbert Goons started being released, and the group ended up being linked to many violent attacks against different teenagers in the area. Now, as the different stories started circling around, people noticed that many people involved in this, you know, better, no better term other than gang, the Gilbert Goons was a gang, but they noticed that these little teenage boys who were involved in this group all came from affluent families, wealthy families. So naturally, people began to speculate that the influence that these families held was somehow preventing this Gilbert
Starting point is 00:04:15 Goon group and the members from facing any real repercussions, not only for what happened to Preston Lord, but for all of these other violent attacks that they not only were involved in, but that were filmed, were put on Snapchat, all these different things. But then finally in March, seven people ended up being arrested in connection with Preston's death. However, what really went down on the night of October 28th is still unknown to the public, and it's speculated that more people were involved in Preston's death as well. Now this past week, the public learned that Preston's parents have filed a wrongful death suit against the seven boys who were arrested. They also filed it against the owner of the home where Preston died. The documents filed give more information
Starting point is 00:04:54 about that party and how it was advertised on social media, how it was going to be this like mega huge rager, and apparently Preston decided to go to this party after seeing the invite on Snapchat, and the invite advertised, quote, a Halloween costume rager. Open invite. Alcohol provided. First come, first served. So the document then goes on to say that almost 200 people were at this party. Then when the fight happened, Preston was left unconscious, and the boys who beat him up ran away from the scene fled like little twerpy bitches thinking they're tough but obviously then they're not even sticking around I mean when you I'll link the full deep dive on this case but it really is sick it's just
Starting point is 00:05:34 this like group of privileged I keep saying it little twerps who come from these rich families they're bored in life they want to act tough so they like make their own little street gang it's horrible horrible horrible horrible so then when these boys fled the scene after they beat up preston roberto carrera who's the owner of the house asked everybody at the party to leave shortly after right after this fight the new lawsuit accuses the boys of negligence and also inflicting physical harm and or aiding and abetting others to inflict physical harm upon Preston while under a state of extreme intoxication and without the capacity to act in an intentional manner and or by using excessive physical force upon Preston in a mistaken belief that each was protecting or defending third parties.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Now, the document also mentions the parents of Talon Renner. Talon was the one whose parents allegedly knew what he did and tried to send him out of the freaking country to cover up his involvement in the crime. It's also speculated that Talon's parents knew of his involvement with that little Gilbert Goon gang group and that they just were not doing anything to prevent him from hurting others, from attacking others, basically saying, uh, bro, you're grounded. You're not allowed to just, like, join this street gang and go beat up kids. The document's alleging not only did they know about it, but they just not encouraged it, but just let him do it. Just go out, have fun with your friends, no harm, no foul. The lawsuit says that Talon's parents knew that their
Starting point is 00:07:00 son was inclined to engage in violence and also inflict physical harm upon others. Apparently, they knew of three different instances where Talon behaved violently towards others, and they didn't do anything to stop it. The first one happened back in 2017-2018 when Talon was in just the fifth grade. When I'm telling you that these are young teenage boys, guys, I mean it. They are young kids. So this first incident was when he was in fifth grade back in 2017, 2018. And get this, he threatened to shoot up the school. The second incident was a couple of years later when Talon was involved in a fight and was bullying a student from his middle school. And then the third incident happened sometime between March 2022 and March 2023. And during that incident,
Starting point is 00:07:46 Talon assaulted another resident while at Diamond Ranch Academy Treatment Center. Now, the lawsuit claims that Talon's parents knew about his violent tendencies and that they were negligent in supervising their son and preventing him from harming others. And then finally, the lawsuit alleges that the owners of the home, Roberto and Emily, both who are adults, were also negligent in providing alcohol to minors and ensuring the safety of the home, Roberto and Emily, both who are adults, were also negligent in providing alcohol to minors and ensuring the safety of the teenagers who attended the party at their home. So it's going to be very interesting to see how this all plays out, right? Because everybody was hoping that people would be held accountable for Preston's murder,
Starting point is 00:08:17 and finally then, like I said, seven people were arrested in March, and now there's this civil lawsuit, there is more information coming to light, the parents are starting to get involved and be held accountable, arrested in March. And now there's this civil lawsuit. There is more information coming to light. The parents are starting to get involved and be held accountable. So I just hope that the right people are held accountable and that Preston and his family do get the justice that they deserve. And I hope that this is a learning lesson for all young kids because I definitely think that over the last, what, five to seven years maybe, and this is just my opinion, but I feel like over the last five to seven years we've seen this huge uptick in teenagers and young kids with violence. Whether it's bullying, murdering, attacking, whatever it may be. And it all usually is linked
Starting point is 00:09:00 to social media because it's like they want to brag. They want to have these bragging rights over social media, show off what they've done. They want the notoriety. They want to become famous somehow. And I just hope that as more cases come to light and people are held accountable, a perfect example is Aiden Fucci, who went to Snapchat after he murdered Tristan Bailey, and he's now in prison. And so I'm just hopeful that as more people are held accountable and young people are held accountable in situations like this, that it's a learning lesson for other young people out there that you shouldn't be doing this, that you're going to get caught, you're going to go to jail, possibly prison for life. Like for what? Because you want to show
Starting point is 00:09:39 off and act tough on Snapchat? On TikTok? Like it's not worth it and I get it. They're not fully formed in their brain yet at this point so they're not realizing the gravity of their situation sometimes and their actions but I'm just hopeful that it starts to become a learning lesson. Now moving into the next case this is one that is absolutely devastating and has quite a few different people enraged over on TikTok that I've seen because of the support that the mom is still giving for the father, and we'll talk through it. But we're going to talk about the case of the Arizona dad who left his child in a hot car
Starting point is 00:10:12 because he has now been charged with murder. On July 9th, Christopher Schultes was driving home while his two-year-old daughter Parker was asleep in the back seat. Later that day, Christopher's wife Erica came home from work and she found Parker dead inside Christopher's car. She called 911 and performed CPR on Parker until the paramedics arrived. Parker was brought to a hospital where Erica actually works as an anesthesiologist. However, they were unable to save her, and she died as a result of this. So police arrived at the home in Arizona. Christopher said he didn't remove Parker from the car seat because he didn't want to wake her up. He also said that he left the car running
Starting point is 00:10:49 with the AC on and that she was only left alone for about 30 minutes. However, when the police reviewed security footage from their home, they discovered that Christopher arrived home around 12 30 p.m. and he left Parker in that backseat for over three hours, all until his wife came home and found her at 4 p.m. Now, while Christopher said that he left the car on, he later admitted knowing that he knew that the car would automatically turn off after 30 minutes, meaning that Parker was left locked inside this car for hours while it was upwards of 100 degrees outside that day. And if that was the temperature outside, God only knows how hot it was inside that car. And as if that isn't bad enough, apparently this was something that Christopher was known to do. He would do this regularly. And the
Starting point is 00:11:39 way that that is known is because after Parker was found, Erica sent a text message to Christopher which read, I told you to stop leaving them in the car. How many times have I told you? Christopher replied to the text saying, babe, I'm sorry. Babe, our family. How could I do this? I killed our baby. This can't be real. Which I gotta say, and I'm not trying to shame the mom here, I can't imagine what it is like to lose a child at all, but especially this way. But after you've noticed that this has happened once, maybe it's time to stop sending the reminders and it's time to just revoke them from being responsible for the child. No more school pickups. No more this and that. And that's really shitty that you wouldn't be able to trust
Starting point is 00:12:22 your partner to be a partner and help out with those tasks. But why leave it to chance, right? Like, and this isn't to blame her in any of this, but if she's sending him a message saying, I told you to stop leaving them in the car, how many times have I told you? That's my question. How many times has this guy had to be told, you don't leave a child in a hot car? Like, what are you even talking about? So police also interviewed Parker's two older siblings, who said that their dad left them in the car a lot. He would
Starting point is 00:12:51 get distracted, just totally forgetting that the kids were even in the car. So it didn't take long for police to realize that this is what happened that day. Christopher left Parker in the car, put the groceries away, then went and played video games for hours, somehow just totally forgetting that he had a child to take care of, which, come on. So that night, he was booked into the Pima County Adult Detention Center. He was charged with second degree murder and child abuse, but pled not guilty. His wife Erica spoke during his arraignment, asking for her husband to be released from jail until his hearing and this is what has people so riled up over on social media because people can't understand
Starting point is 00:13:33 why she is begging for mercy for her husband when not only did he kill their child accident or not it's like the track record was there but also like you've had to intervene so many times. A lot of people are thinking she's at fault for not protecting her kids. Whatever your opinion is, everybody's entitled to their own. But I want you to take a listen to this video and what she says. I'm just asking if you can allow him to come home to us so we can all start the grieving process so that he can bury our daughter with us this upcoming week, and that we can go through this whole process together as a family. This was a big mistake, and I think that this doesn't represent him. And I just want the girls to see their father so that I don't have to tell them tonight
Starting point is 00:14:19 that they're going to endure another loss. So Christopher was released, but the judge ruled that he could not be alone with his children, which, thank God, but quite honestly, that should have been a decision made in their personal lives well ahead of this, before something like this ever happened. And his next hearing is set for August 1st, so we will see where this case goes. Moving into another case, this is about a TikToker who was arrested after he shot his girlfriend. A very popular TikToker, Ladarius Morshun Brownlee, was arrested after shooting his girlfriend, Zara, in the face. The shooting happened in Flower Mound, Texas around 1 a.m. on July 5th, so right
Starting point is 00:14:57 after all of the 4th of July celebrations. Witnesses who were with Zara and Ladarius said that they were all leaving a July 4th celebration together. Then, before getting in the car to leave, Zara and Ladarius got into a very heated argument, which then turned physical. They got into the car, they started driving, and they drove three miles before Ladarius stopped the car, pointed the gun at the witnesses in the backseat, and then shot Zara. She was shot right above her right eye and thankfully she is still alive, but her injuries are life-threatening. Now Zara and Ladarius had a couple's TikTok account, meaning they shared it where they posted videos of the two of them together. They posted videos about their relationship, they had about 155,000 followers, and their videos have
Starting point is 00:15:41 millions of views between all of them. Now, I scrolled quite a bit of their TikTok and looking at their videos, and many of the videos are a bit concerning to me, because in a lot of these videos, Ladarius is putting Zara down, saying she doesn't look good, he's throwing things at her, things like that. Their TikTok bio says, quote, it's a joke, insinuating that people shouldn't take their video seriously, but people close to the couple have said that their relationship was tumultuous, and it was often violent. So after Ladarius was arrested, his bond was set at $900,000, and as of now, he is still in jail. So moving into a true, true scumbag, not that the people we've talked about so far aren't scumbags, but we are going to now talk about a mega disgusting creep scumbag, and his name is Timothy Halslett Jr. So two years ago,
Starting point is 00:16:31 I covered the case of Timothy over on my YouTube channel, Tend to Life. I will link this episode in the show notes, but to give a quick recap, in October of 2022, Timothy was arrested after a woman escaped his home in Excelsior Springs, Missouri, which is just outside of Kansas City. She ran to a neighbor's house claiming that Timothy had kidnapped her and held her hostage for the past month. The woman was dressed in latex lingerie, had a locked metal collar and duct tape around her neck, and she also had ligature marks around her wrists. She told the neighbor that she had been held captive in Timothy's garage since September, and that her friends did not make it.
Starting point is 00:17:10 It wasn't clear how many friends she was talking about, or if others were also held captive. The woman said that Timothy initially approached her while she was out on a walk, and offered her $350 to go to his house. She got in his car, and during her car ride, Timothy pulled a gun on her, then took her phone and drugged her. She was kept in what they are describing as a dungeon in his basement. She was restrained, choked, whipped, and sexually assaulted daily. He rarely fed her, and during his assaults, Timothy would wear women's lingerie and call her his sex slave.
Starting point is 00:17:43 So police arrested Timothy soon after this woman escaped, and they began a search of his home. And inside of it, they found giant blue barrels in his basement, along with ropes, chains, whips, other restraints, and also handguns. Timothy was charged with first-degree kidnapping, first-degree rape, and second-degree assault. However, he pled not guilty and was awaiting trial. So now new information has been rape, and second-degree assault. However, he pled not guilty and was awaiting trial. So now new information has been released. And Timothy is now facing charges for the murder of a different woman, a woman named Janie Crosdale. So a couple of months after Timothy was initially arrested, the Excelsior Springs Police Department announced that they
Starting point is 00:18:20 were looking for Janie, and they believed that she was a potential witness for the kidnapping investigation. They were unable to find Janie, and they were looking for her for months. However, unfortunately, her remains were found in a blue barrel in a river last July, and the barrel matched the other ones that were found in Timothy's home, and police believed that she died sometime between June and October of 2022. Now, what's interesting about this barrel situation, he had multiple barrels that were found at his house, right? And I don't know if any of you listened to my episode on the Drew Peterson case, not to be confused with Scott Peterson, maybe I will link that as well, but it's suspected that he put his, what was she, Stacey was his fourth wife, in a barrel as well
Starting point is 00:19:02 and disposed of her body that way and she has yet to be found to this day and there have been a lot of cases we've talked about where people use these barrels as a means to hide remains dispose of remains fill them with cement after the remains are put in them things like that even I think it was even suspected in the Fotis Doulos case that he used a barrel right correct me if I'm wrong but I'm positive. So the fact that he had so many barrels found in his dungeon basement is really concerning because to me, at least, and I'm not a professional, I'm not a profiler, I don't work for the FBI, but based on other cases I've covered, to me that indicates that he never had any intention of freeing any of these women. Not that I would
Starting point is 00:19:46 think people who do hold women captive ever think they will release them, but to me it just shows the means to an end. That once he was done raping them, torturing them, abusing them, that his plans were always going to just be to dispose of them, to kill them. That's why he had multiple barrels at his disposal, and then poor Janie was found in one of these barrels. Now, according to the woman who escaped his home, Timothy told her that he killed two other women. He told her that one had been killed with a gas mask, while the other, quote, died by electrocution during a sexual assault. Which, how horrible is that? That he's not only getting off on the rape and the torture, but that during these sexual
Starting point is 00:20:25 assaults, he's electrocuting them. That he's getting off on that, on that form of sexual assault. It is sick, sick, and twisted. He also threatened to suffocate and kill her, quote, like the rest of them if she didn't comply. Janie Crosdale and the woman who escaped Timothy's home were both black, and it's believed that Timothy's crime may be racially motivated due to some racist comments that were made on his Facebook profile. This hasn't been confirmed, however, this is what has been talked about as a possible motive. Timothy has pled not guilty to Janie's murder, and he's currently being held on a five million dollar bond, which goodwittens, lock him away, throw throw away the key now we have a couple more
Starting point is 00:21:06 cases we're going to talk about we are going to talk about leaked emails in the madeline soto case a possible new suspect plus a baby who was found on the highway but first i'm going to grab a drink of water i'm going to like recalibrate my mind we're going to take a quick break and then we will be right back. Okay, so let me talk to you about this case about the baby that was found on a highway. So on Monday, July 8th, the body of a four-year-old was found in a lake near a welcome center by the Louisiana-Texas border. After identifying who this boy was, this four-year-old little boy, police had learned that he had been seen two days prior with his mother, Aaliyah Jack,
Starting point is 00:21:54 and also his one-year-old brother. So police started searching for Aaliyah and for the baby immediately. The next day, Aaliyah was located in Mississippi, almost 350 miles away from where her four-year-old was found dead. The baby, though, was not with her, so she was arrested for failure to report a missing child. Then, later that day, Louisiana police received a call that a trucker found a baby crawling along a highway. That baby was later identified as Aaliyah's other missing child. The baby had been found in a ditch, was covered in bug bites, and the police believe that he had been outside
Starting point is 00:22:25 alone for two days. A one-year-old child. Now during the time that the baby was alone, get this, a hurricane struck East Texas, which caused very heavy rain and strong winds in the area. So he spent two days in that weather alone. So he's now being dubbed as the miracle baby because he was able to survive those conditions, survive being alone, survive on his own. Aside from the bug bites, he was luckily not injured and he is in stable condition. His mom, Aaliyah, on the other hand, she was charged with murder, cruelty to a juvenile, and failure to report a missing child. Her bond was set at $9.1 million. She has yet to enter a plea or retain an attorney, but like I said with the last one, lock them up, throw away the key. Now, let's talk about Madeline Soto
Starting point is 00:23:14 and the updates in this case, because it is absolutely heartbreaking, horrifying. So many people have been wondering if her mom was more involved than she let on, if she's going to be charged in all of this, because it is one of the more heartbreaking and like disgusting sexual assaults and cases that we have talked about in quite some time. And now more details have been released about just the Madeline Soto case in general, and it is bringing up additional questions about her mom Jennifer Soto's involvement in her daughter's death. Now to give a quick recap if you aren't familiar with this case, but I will link the deep dive episode in the show notes, Jennifer's boyfriend Stefan Stearns is charged with murdering 13-year-old Madeline Soto. This was after she was reported as missing back on February 26th. Her body was then found a few days later on March 1st. As this was all happening before he was even charged with her murder, Stefan was charged with 60 counts of
Starting point is 00:24:10 child sexual abuse. This was after the investigators found images showing Madeline being sexually abused by Stefan for over two years, dating back to when she was just 11 years old. And guys, again, if you're not familiar, you definitely need to get caught up, but this case was shady from the jump. He put her dead body in his car, was driving with it to dispose of her, and it was caught on camera. Then he was lying to the police. He did a factory reset on his phone, but obviously they were able to recover all these things, and that's why he was then charged with the child sexual abuse, 60 counts to be exact. The mom gave a really odd interview that had a lot of people questioning if she knew more, if she was involved in the cover-up,
Starting point is 00:24:52 if she also knew about the years long of sexual assault, and it has been a very interesting one to follow, certainly, because the mom still has not been charged with anything. But last week, new documents were released, and these detailed emails that were sent to his family while he's been in jail. The emails are mostly between Stefan, his brother, and his mom, and the emails are pretty odd, to say the least, because some of the emails are normal, I would say,
Starting point is 00:25:19 and if you could see me, I'm using air quotes, but like, they're normal for somebody who has been charged with murder and sexual assault. He talks about how loud the jail is, how dirty his cell is, how thin his mattress is, how his coffee supply is running low, and then he also asks them to send him a book, specifically an origami book from Amazon. Just totally casual, totally normal, like nothing is wrong. Like he isn't being charged with the murder of a 13-year-old girl. In one email, his mom even responds with, I hope you get your coffee and candy straightened out quickly. Love, hugs, and prayers now and every day and night. Mom. However, in that same email, Stefan's mom writes something that is a little
Starting point is 00:26:03 more concerning in the grand scheme of things. She says, we know that Blank was heavily involved in this, and I am disgusted that she is free and you are not when this is not all your fault. You need to think about yourself more and her less. She sure isn't thinking about you and how she can help you right now. That whole family is willing to stay quiet and let you take the fall for everything. I think the craziness that Blank lived through with Blank's various partners, not a stable life at all for a child. I do pray for Blank and you daily. Now, the name of the person that they are talking about has been redacted in the official emails that were
Starting point is 00:26:42 released by the state attorney's office, but based on the rest of the message, people are of course thinking that she was talking about Madeline's mother, Jen. Now, as I said, many have wondered if Jen was more involved in not only Madeline's disappearance and murder, but also complicit in the sexual assault. And these emails are making people question that even more, not only questioning if she was involved, but even if another person was involved in her death. And certainly certainly if this was a reoccurring pattern like sure he had been abusing Madeline for years at this point but his mom references previous partners and the craziness that Madeline lived through with these various partners so is that an allegation I'm only this is my assumption just my opinion but is that an allegation that even prior to the relationship with Stefan Stearns
Starting point is 00:27:29 that Madeline's mom would allow other men to abuse her? Is that what the implication is here? I don't understand, like, what's she implying? That's what it sounds like to me. Now, just a few days ago, even more information was released that supports the theory of another person being involved in Madeline's death. New evidence shows that two cars drove to the place where Madeline's body was found, and both cars originated from the apartment complex where she lived. Officers used traffic
Starting point is 00:27:55 cameras and license plate readers to track Stefan's car, which is a silver Lincoln. They were tracking it on the morning that Madeline was reported as missing. He's seen leaving the apartment complex around 7.50 a.m. A young female, believed to be Madeline, is sitting slumped over in the passenger seat. They believe she was already dead at this point. Then, around 9.40 a.m., the car is seen in a Holiday Inn parking garage. A male, believed to be Stefan, exits the car and then carries what looks to be like a limp body from the passenger seat, and places it into the trunk. The car returns to the apartment complex at 10.14 a.m., and then leaves at 11.03 a.m., then returns again at 11.56 a.m. The car leaves for a third time around 12.44 p.m., and it's photographed about 30 minutes later going south on Old Hickory Tree Road, which,
Starting point is 00:28:42 just to let you know if you haven't been following this case closely, Madeline's body was found in a wooded area directly off this road. The silver car then returns back to the apartment complex at 2.43 p.m. Now, it's been released that a second car, a white Nissan, followed the exact same route. They followed it the very next day on February 27th. This car was captured on cameras leaving the apartment complex at 3.16 a.m., the middle of the night, and then it was photographed again back on Old Hickory Tree Road at 3.35 a.m. The car returned to the apartment complex at 4.30 a.m. The name of whoever owns this white Nissan was redacted in the document, which was released by the police.
Starting point is 00:29:25 It was also not stated who was seen driving the car. But again, it brings up the question, was somebody else involved in Madeline's disappearance? Was this her mom's car? Was the mom driving? Was this Stefan borrowing the mom's car and leaving in the middle of the night to go cover his tracks a little bit more? There were two cars, two different cars that took that exact same route. It has not been confirmed that it was two different drivers, although, just my opinion, I think if it was the same driver, if it was Stefan in both cars, if he was borrowing Jen's car for the second trip, why would the name be redacted? That's
Starting point is 00:30:01 just my opinion. Maybe so, but why when he's already been charged? I don't know. Tell me what you think. In any event, it feels as though we are inching closer and closer to justice for Madeline and Answers and whoever was involved in this horrific crime held responsible. A lot of people think that it's only a matter of time before her mom Jen is charged in some capacity, so it's going to be interesting to see if that is in fact the case. I will definitely keep you guys updated as this continues to break. So if you're not following the podcast yet, take a quick second guys. I highly encourage you to do so whether you're listening on Apple or you're listening on Spotify. All you have to do is open
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