Serialously with Annie Elise - 358: Feds Looking Into Ellen Greenberg, Barry Morphew News, & Man Stabs Wife, Calls Son to Confess

Starting point is 00:00:01 Hey, true crime besties, welcome back to an all-new episode of Serialessly. Hello, hello, hello. Welcome back to an all-new episode of Serialessly with me, your host, Annie Elise. We've got headline highlights today. There is so much to go over. I probably just blew out your ears when I said it that way. Sorry. But hope you guys all are having a good week so far. I'm probably about to ruin it because these stories are beyond grotesque. I mean, the stories we're going over today, the cases were going over, it's just like, what is wrong with people? I know we said last week that I was hopeful for humanity because we had a little bit of a light week in terms of how many cases were out there. That is not the case this week. There were,

Starting point is 00:01:04 unfortunately, too many to choose from. So we are going to get into all of it. We are, of course, going to start like we normally start with updates to cases that we have previously discussed. But before I get into that, because I definitely want Amy to weigh in on some of those updates, let's welcome back. Amy Colette to the show. I feel like the intro keeps getting grander and grander. No, I know. Now there's a drum roll.

Starting point is 00:01:29 I know. I feel like maybe it's time to reel it in. No. And we fixed Amy's mic, so. I'm here. And I'm hopefully much clearer. Yes, because it was a little echoy. That was my bad.

Starting point is 00:01:39 So, well, not my bad, but the XLR cable is bad. So we're back. We're back. And we've got a lot to talk about. I know. Well, and the polls are in from Instagram. Like, are we shaving your head today, lie? If you don't find, that's a helpful note, a little call to action. If you don't follow me on Instagram, you definitely should. It's at underscore Annie Elise because I'm sharing a lot of my, like, private life there. And yes, over the weekend or early this week, I guess it was, I posted a reel. I have been in crisis. I don't know what color to color my hair. I always, this always happens to me. I love the family's comments because it was, they're like, well, you've now been wrestling with this for a while so we can tell a change is imminent. Yeah, I know. So in it, I kind of went a little drastic, bought a lot of wigs, did a try on haul. And I will say, bangs are not for me.

Starting point is 00:02:32 But I was dying when you all of a sudden just popped your head back up and there's this mermaid hair with bangs and then you kept adjusting them and I'm like please stop doing that please no and like but here's the thing better than me going through this crisis and cutting real bangs oh I would be here for the real bang no I don't have the forehead and then you'd have to do emmys again so that you could just have twin haircuts with your bobs oh my oh my we would be twins so cute and you could go dark we can be twins without the bangs or as emmy would say the bings But I don't have the forehead for bangs. Also, I Botox my forehead too much for bing.

Starting point is 00:03:13 Like, what's the point? I felt like that was definitely where I started going. Oh, we're going down. This is different than just going dark. Yeah, because at the very – And then we talked about shaving the head, which I have to tell you. I don't think we've ever had this conversation. And people are going to kill us because here we are now, three minutes and 37 seconds into the intro.

Starting point is 00:03:32 I have seriously considered shaving my head. I think you would look great. Well, here's the problem. I have seriously considered shaving my head multiple times. Here's my reservations. I think that first I would look a little too aggressive with the tattoos. I would look like that character from Orange is the New Black and Succession. What's their name, Asia something?

Starting point is 00:03:52 I would look a little aggressive, I think. But I also would look psychotic because of the scar on my head. That would make you look badass. No, I would look like G.I. Jane or something, but not in a good way. So for those of you who have not are a little newer to the podcast, I had brain surgery when I was 16 years old and they had to cut me open from ear to ear. And so I have a very gnarly scar. You can sometimes see it like right now with my hair up a little bit, I guess. But it goes all the way from ear to ear. So if I shaved my head, I would look like what's that not it's not Sid from Toy Story, but he plays with like this psychotic doll that has staples in his head. Like, yeah, it would definitely be a conversation starter. one that you probably wouldn't want to have over and over again. What's wrong with your fucked up head? I'm here for you trying to go dark again because I feel like I always liked you with dark hair,

Starting point is 00:04:43 but I don't think extensions are the answer because the last time you got extensions, they lasted 36 hours and then you took them out of your hair and put them into mine. True, true. Well, okay, so here's where I landed. Okay. I think I'm going darker, but I'm not going as dark as I was at my wedding. Okay. I did a little bit of research, color and out.

Starting point is 00:05:04 And I don't know if this is true, but apparently I'm a soft autumn, okay, whatever the hell that means. I could see that. So I'm going to do like, and I hate this word, but I'm going to say it in the cringe way, caramel. I hate when people. So it doesn't make you want to vomit. I have thick. I know. So do I.

Starting point is 00:05:19 But I think I'm going to do the Haley Beaver Brown, where it's like more of a golden brown. A bronze, if you will. A blonde, if you will. Okay. Where it has like some caramel, caramel. How for the hell you say it? People hate us right now. I know.

Starting point is 00:05:31 Like those kinds of highlights. We'll see. Okay. But I like the idea of having healthy, shiny hair. And I don't think I'm going to get that with platinum blonde if I were to go back platinum. Definitely not. And like I had some like reality checks for myself. Like somebody recently commented on the reel of Theodore and I from when we did our little mock show in here and I looked at my hair.

Starting point is 00:05:55 I think you were wearing the same outfit, weren't you? Played me. You're wearing me now. Played me. I was. Jeez, O'Brien. Just kidding. Well, I just had a flash check.

Starting point is 00:06:06 Let's get started. I'm not a note. Okay. Sorry, guys. Here we are. Six minutes and 22 seconds again. People are going to be like, why don't you just shut up? You fucking idiot.

Starting point is 00:06:15 Okay. So let's start with another effing idiot. Barry Morfew. Now, I don't know if you know a whole lot about this case. We hate Barry. We hate Barry. We hate his name. We hate everything about him.

Starting point is 00:06:25 But back in June of 2025, we also know that after all of this back and forth since 20-20 of him being arrested, charged, then let go. All of these things. a grand jury re-indicted Barry on first-degree murder charges for the murder of his wife, Suzanne Morfew, who went missing on Mother's Day of 2020. He said she went out for a bike ride, never came home. So many shady things within his version of events, in my opinion. He has not been convicted and found guilty. But a lot of shady things with like his story about the chipmunks, which was so reminiscent of Chad Daybill saying he was shooting raccoons. He said he was chasing chipmunks. I think he was chasing Suzanne around the property.

Starting point is 00:07:03 the tranquilizers, all of these things. So moral of the story, a grand jury re-indicted him back in June of 2025. Suzanne's remains had ended up being found in September of 2023, which was about a year and a half after the first charges against Barry were dropped. Now, when her remains were found, they also had forensic testing done. And when this was done, it showed a, quote, cocktail of tranquilizers that were found in her bone marrow. Bringing you back to the original case really quickly, to when they searched the house, they found not a tranquilizer dart, but a piece of it inside

Starting point is 00:07:38 the washing machine, which call to action also, you know, a la Jodiarius with the SD card from the camera. I don't know why people think the washing machine is going to like wash away at physical property. I've never understood that. No, it's like you are dumb, dumb, dumb. So they found that tranquilizer piece and I was like, oh yeah, he tranquilizer chased her on the property and then ultimately killed her. My opinion, again, has not been convicted. Now, fun fact, this testing showed that she had this cocktail of tranquilizer drugs in her system, which all three tranquilizers that were found in her system are only typically used in animals, never people. Also, Barry had like the only prescription for these in like the whole county or something like that.

Starting point is 00:08:23 We did a huge deep dive. You can go back and listen to that. We will link it in the show notes. but trying to bring you up to speed for those of you who are unfamiliar with Barry and what happened there, it's a wild case. So anyway, now fast forward to now in January, and Barry was in court on January 12th for these new first-degree murder charges, or the first-degree murder charge, I should say. And to absolutely nobody's surprise, he pleaded not guilty again, which this is officially the second time now that he has formally denied the charge since the re-indictment. And I have to say, too, his daughters have been sticking by him through thick and thin, believing that he's innocent, that he has nothing to do with this.

Starting point is 00:09:05 I don't know if that's because they're in denial and don't want to lose another parent. I would have to assume so, given what I think is the stacking list of evidence against him, but they have stood by him. So Barry waived his right to a speedy trial, and the court has set his trial date for October, 12th, 2026, meaning we are officially back on track to seeing a full trial against this cheap, loser, fucking moron, Barry Morphew, and getting justice for Suzanne. And I have to say, you heard it here first. We will be at that trial.

Starting point is 00:09:42 I will be at that trial. I am so invested in this case. It is one of the first cases that I ever covered ever over on YouTube on anything. I feel like a would you rather is coming. Like of what trials I would want to go to? No, like people you hate the most. Oh, we'd be here all day. I don't know.

Starting point is 00:10:00 I hate a lot of people. I didn't realize Barry was up there for you. He is up there because I think he is such a grifter loser and that he felt so entitled because Suzanne was going to finally leave his sorry ass. She had a boyfriend. He like is playing innocent. And again, different cases, different strokes, but like similar parallels with Chad Daybell. That's exactly what I was going to say.

Starting point is 00:10:22 Chad Daybell, Barry Morphew, and then I was going to put Chris Watts on that list. Oh, that would be a hard one. I couldn't do the Mary F Kill. I'd have to do the Kill, Kill, Kill, Kill. That's what I was thinking. There's no other option, honestly. I don't condone my lens. Okay.

Starting point is 00:10:38 So yeah, we're going to follow this, and we will be at that trial. Another not fun fact, more of a nightmare fact. And I put this in my notes because I, you know how you forget dreams, but like, if you want to remember, you have to type it out. I had a dream last night and Barry Murphy was in it. And I think it's because I was getting fully caught up on what's going on. But we were on a cruise ship. Oh, God. No, I know.

Starting point is 00:10:59 It was a nightmare. No, it's getting worse by the minute. We were on a cruise ship at a blackjack table. I don't know. Getting better. Yeah, getting warmer. And he was there with some other person who now, it's like, I was friends with her and I knew her. And she was the connection to him.

Starting point is 00:11:14 And like, so I was trying to like be, like, play nice. But basically I was trying to, like, be nice to him and hear him out to, like, see. like, okay, let's do an interview. Like, get on camera. Let me ask you, like, the hard-hitting questions. But he was at the blackjack table saying he's innocent, that he had nothing to do with it. Then as dreams happened, it got really weird. And I went in an elevator.

Starting point is 00:11:35 The whole top of the skyscraper broke off. And it went in the ocean. I was in the ocean and didn't even know it. And then I got to say it was a weird one. I need a dream interpreter. I don't know if that's the only thing you need. No. You're tracking your REM at night?

Starting point is 00:11:50 Like, what's happening? I'm not tracking it, but I didn't sleep the whole night before because I broke open another Celsius. Bad mistake at 5 p.m. before Dave and Busters thinking that's not a nightmare. That's real. I hate all of this. My weekend. Yeah, last weekend was jam-packed. No, so yeah, I had that dream last night, and I don't know what it means.

Starting point is 00:12:12 I don't know what it means, but I'm invested, obviously. You want your day with Barry, which you might have at court. In court. And let's call us something not a date. No, I said day. Oh, okay. Okay, fair. Okay, well, that wasn't the dream, O'Brien.

Starting point is 00:12:25 Okay, now in some positive news in a case update, let's talk about Ellen Greenberg, because this is potentially pretty major. Federal authorities are now reviewing the handling of Ellen Greenberg's death, which, if you will remember, and I know many of you have been following along with this case as we have, her death was ruled a suicide despite her suffering over 20 stab wounds, several of which were to the back of her head and neck. it has divided everybody out there for years and years and years. And I have never even seen a single person say they believe that Ellen did this to herself. Her parents have advocated for her this entire time. We have spoken with her parents, her mom I spoke to, I think it was like a month ago as well. And everybody is hoping that Ellen will get justice in all of this. So now multiple agencies have reportedly been asked to turn over documents.

Starting point is 00:13:19 agencies including the Philadelphia Police Department, the medical examiner's office, even the Pennsylvania Attorney General's office. So this raises the question of why does the federal government now need to step in more than a decade later unless something potentially seriously went wrong? We also, in our deep dive, covered the family connections with Ellen's fiance and who many believe was involved in this. And his family connections with political ties, people have influence things like that to where the whole thing was weird, right? If you remember, his uncle came to the apartment the very next day and took Ellen's computer. Like, why does he need Ellen's computer? Like, weird stuff like that. So I don't know what this means. I'm hopeful it does mean something because so many people have wanted answers in this and not just answers, but the right answer in what really happened to Ellen and justice. So this federal involvement is not, at least for right now, a new murder charge or a reversal of the self-harm ruling or anything like that, but it is kind of this new glance to look at it and see if the original investigation

Starting point is 00:14:29 was mishandled or if things were potentially covered up. And I also have to say her fiancé Sam, he has been flying under the radar for years and years and years since this whole thing happened, which I could say, you could say is because he doesn't want the attention, he's distraught, all of these things, or you could say he's nervous and hiding. But somebody did hard work over on TikTok, okay? He does not look good. I was just going to say I saw a photo pop up on Facebook. I know that.

Starting point is 00:14:59 He is looking rough. And I saw it over the weekend and I'm like, whoa, it was a jump scare. But then I started reading the comments. And the public, I mean, I know they don't like him. They already felt like something was shady. But everyone's pointing at corruption. Yes. Yes.

Starting point is 00:15:14 And I try to be very mindful of that. because allegedly. Allegedly, we do your own research, form your own opinions. Even in our deep dive, I tried to be mindful of that because anytime there's corruption allegations or conspiracy allegations, it can get ugly very fast. And I'm not looking for people to come after me legally or send me, we'll see synthesis or kind of like you can wipe your ass with that. Nothing will happen.

Starting point is 00:15:39 But like, true. But, yeah, a lot of people think that there was some cover-ups. stuff going on and that that is why he also has been flying under the radar to not draw attention to himself or to his family because of what could be exposed. But he is looking rough. And we love to see it. Karma. We do. No, I know. I actually, I meant to, I think I did screenshot it. Did you see the video one? No, I just saw the photo. Oh, I'll find the video for you. It's not cute. And I was like, I know it's winter, but what's happening? What's happening? Um, yeah. So we'll see, stay tuned. Hopefully we have a very positive update. And then you're

Starting point is 00:16:16 future regarding Ellen, her case, and her family. Now let's move into this next case because it has a lot of people asking what the heck happened and it's really not only devastating but pretty frustrating when you get into it. So this is our first case we're going to talk about and it's out of Arizona and it literally happened overnight. And as of now, there are no real answers, nothing concrete. So this is the case of Malika Boone, an 18 year old girl from the Navajo Nation in northern Arizona. As a reminder, this is an active, ongoing investigation. So a lot of what we are going to talk about today is just what we know so far based on law enforcement statements, certain things that are out there, and early reporting. But Malika Boone was last seen on the evening of January 15th around 6 p.m. She was seen near her home in the Coal Mine NHA housing area in Coal Mine, Arizona. However, when she didn't come home, her family immediately knew that something was wrong, because not only did they say that this was extremely out of character for her. her, but she was also only eight years old. So of course, it was extremely concerning. So police started asking the public for help locating Malika. They also issued a turquoise alert, which I had to do

Starting point is 00:17:28 a little bit of research to know what a turquoise alert was. I haven't heard of it. I think I've heard about it one other time. But basically, a turquoise alert is similar to an amber alert, but it's used in certain states to help locate missing indigenous or Native American people, particularly when the disappearance is suspicious or unexplained and when it's not believed to be a runaway. The turquoise alert was actually created to address the disproportionate amount of missing and murdered indigenous people. So a great system in place, but that is the alert that they issued when Malika went missing. So this alert spread all across Arizona and beyond. And once it went out, the investigation into finding out where Malika went, it really escalated.

Starting point is 00:18:09 Navajo police began searching the area and within just a few hours, the FBI and the Navajo Department of Criminal Investigation joined in. Residents in the coal mine community were also at that point asked to stay inside of their homes while the officers were all working in the area. So coal mine was essentially on lockdown. But then, less than 24 hours after Malika was reported missing, the outcome that everybody feared became reality. Because the authorities announced that 8-year-old Malika had been found deceased.

Starting point is 00:18:40 Now at this time, at the time of this recording, investigators have not released a cause of death. They also haven't said where she was found, whether foul play was suspected in this, whether they are looking for any suspects or persons of interest, and the information kind of has just stopped. All that the authorities have released so far is that the investigation is ongoing. Also, that coal mine residents are supposed to stay inside their homes and that multiple agencies are involved. And here's where that gets a little bit frustrating, because I understand everybody wants answers, but cases like this one can get very complicated in terms of jurisdiction, especially when they happen on tribal land or in those areas, because depending on the circumstances,

Starting point is 00:19:23 tribal police, state authorities, and federal agencies like the FBI may all be involved in this. And when multiple agencies are all coordinating together, the information often will take a lot longer to be shared publicly. We have seen that. with similar cases like Emily Pike. We saw it in a little bit different of a way with Anna Kepner, just because I think, too, it was like different rules and jurisdictions apply when it comes to open water crimes. So if there are very complex cases that involve overlapping jurisdictions, sometimes even if the legal reasons differ from one another, everything has to be very carefully coordinated before details are released, not to mention she obviously is a minor as well.

Starting point is 00:20:04 So all we really know right now and what has a lot of people up in arms is that we know an eight-year-old went missing, that she was found dead the next day, but nobody knows what else really happened. Begging the question, what really happened to Malika Boone? So we will definitely be following this case very closely. We will see if new information comes out and hopefully we'll learn more. But I know a lot of you have been in my DMs on Instagram about this case. And I've seen it pop up a few other places, so wanted to at least touch. on it, but incredibly sad. It's so sad. I hope that poor girl gets justice. I know. I really do

Starting point is 00:20:42 love this whole turquoise alert, and I need to look into it more because, again, like I said, I'm not extremely familiar, but there is such a high level of crimes against natives and indigenous women and children and just actually all genders. And so the fact that now, because it's kind of like a double-edged sword, right? Because the numbers are so high, they created this secondary alert, similar to an amber alert, but different, which is great. But also it's like, you only got to that place because these numbers are so incredibly high, which is so disheartening. And you just need to have the support and system in place for when those alerts are happening. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:21:22 You have the resources, hopefully, to act quickly. I know. Incredibly sad. So we will definitely follow up on this one. I know you have one you want to talk about too. Yeah, I want to talk about this case that's coming out of Missouri, and it's really sad and unsettling because it's again another crime that's family on family, which we've been seeing a lot of. This story is about Malang John Akbari, who's a 46-year-old man from Jefferson City, Missouri, and is now being charged with first-degree murder after prosecutors say he stabbed his wife to death in their kitchen. Then, get this, he called his adult son and calmly told him,

Starting point is 00:21:59 I killed your mom and I left the house. According to court documents, this is exactly what his son told the 911 dispatchers when he called while he was rushing to his parents' home after that call. When he got to the house, he found his mother unresponsive and bleeding on the kitchen floor. And when first responders arrived shortly after, they pronounced her dead on the scene. But what police say happened next and what Malang allegedly admitted to is what actually makes this case so chilling. According to the probable cause affidavit, Malang told investigators that he and his wife were having a fight.

Starting point is 00:22:35 And the fight happened because he believed that she was cheating on him and because he also believed she was tampering with his food. So Malang allegedly confronted her in the kitchen and then she told him if he had did anything to hurt her at all that she would go to the police. That's when he grabbed a knife and began screaming and looking around. And at this point, he believed she was looking to grab a knife as well, to defend herself. And when she was looking around for that supposed knife, that's when he

Starting point is 00:23:03 stabbed her. Malang allegedly then told the police that after stabbing his wife, he then laid her down on the kitchen floor, placed a pillow under her head, and sat next to her and watched her bleed out without calling for help, just sat there and watched her bleed out. Investigators say that later he told them, I sacrificed everything for her. I made a mistake and I do regret this. There was no other option for me, which... There's a lot of other options. Well, and you hear that often, like, when it's a loved one, they then get protective and, like,

Starting point is 00:23:35 care for the victim afterwards. And after his wife was dead, investigators say Malang left the house, taking a child with him that was also in the home at the same time, an 18-month-old baby, which prompted an Amber Alert to be sent out immediately. Police eventually found Malang about an hour away in Sedalia, Missouri, and arrested him.

Starting point is 00:23:56 The baby wasn't with him, however, and was later then recovered at a relative's home. Malang is now being charged with first-degree murder, armed criminal action, unlawful use of a weapon, and first-degree endangering the welfare of a child, and he is currently being held without bond at the Cole County Jail. In court, Malang's attorney said he pleaded not guilty because of mental disease or defect, citing PTSD linked to his time in the Afghan military and other mental health concerns. And so the judge ordered that a mental health evaluation needs to be done. So especially at this early stage in the investigations, and like most cases, this case has left a lot of questions.

Starting point is 00:24:37 What was the real reason for that fight? Was there a reason to think that he had some reason to be angry about those things? What warning signs might have been missed? What were those like final moments between he and his wife? Obviously, she must have been terrified if she's now looking around and maybe searching for something to defend herself. And now their kids, including that 18-month baby, now have to live not only without their mother, but also without their father because he's now sitting in a jail cell and who knows what his future holds. So now this is going to follow them the rest of their lives. And I can't

Starting point is 00:25:11 imagine how terrifying that phone call was to receive from your dad, that poor son. But I have a lot questions. Well, not a lot, but like two. Okay. Okay. One, why he says that she was cheating on him and that he thought she was tampering with his food. And so that's why he did this. So in my mind, I'm thinking, okay, she was cheating on him. She was going to poison him so that he would die and she could leave with her lover. I hate that word. I know. Then why wouldn't you claim self-defense? Why would you change it to mental health defect if that really were the case? Or it's like you're saying two different narratives where it's like just stick with that one if you're saying you had no other choice like he said and that she was cheating she was going to poison him all of that or was that

Starting point is 00:25:58 all made up in his mind because of the mental health struggles so that obviously they wouldn't find any poison on the scene maybe no affair would ever be found so now he's leaning on the PTSD I don't know was she cheating I mean obviously I have like gut feelings but that's not backed by anything but I'm just thinking like you're not really getting a picture here of like what they're marriage was. So, like, was this, this, like, loving marriage and this happened out of nowhere? Was there strain ahead of time? But, like, I know there are people who, like, kind of paint pictures in their mind and, like, tell themselves a story. And then it, like, festers and boils over. And, like, was this, like, the boiling point where he's, like, she's making

Starting point is 00:26:39 me dinner. We're in this kitchen. Like, what I've been thinking all along is true. And, like, saw her maybe, like, do something a little different or, like, reach for something he wasn't used to. Reach for a new spice. It's the paprika. No, no, I know. You know what I mean? Or it becomes your reality. Or like was she, I'm like going off on way tangents here, but like was she improving

Starting point is 00:26:58 herself and like working on herself like working out more? Like, okay, wait. Now you're just making up a whole story. No, because like you're thinking cheating. Like why do people think someone's cheating? Like is it because they're back at the gym or are they like getting a new haircut? Like, uh-huh. Annie, Elise with your wigs.

Starting point is 00:27:16 But like, so I don't know. What made him think that? What made him think that? And then was this like the tipping point? Exactly. Because even if she was cheating on him and even if she was going to put like antifreeze in his food, just get a divorce doesn't mean she deserves to be murdered. No.

Starting point is 00:27:31 And what I don't understand by what we see oftentimes in these like family on family crimes is these like heinous crimes with people that obviously like the ultimate form of betrayal. They're in their home with a significant other or a child or whatever. they have these, they commit these murders and then just call someone. Right. And admit to it right after, whether that be another family member or the police. So that's where I'm like, there was some sort of a like disconnect there when that moment happened because they're not really trying to then cover it up or evade consequence. And the fact that he just sat there while she bled out and didn't do anything.

Starting point is 00:28:12 And like put the pillow under her head and like showed care for her. So that's where it's like he had to do it. Like he even said. I know. I don't know. I don't know. What do you? On that note, we're going to take a quick break.

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Starting point is 00:31:11 I mean, they all do, but this one is just so jarring and unsettling. and honestly it hits almost every warning sign that we talk about. What happens when somebody asks for help? What happens when they see the danger is coming and when the system just does not move fast enough? So this is the case of Cecil, Mains, and Jerry Mains, and it's coming to us out of Indianapolis, Indiana. On the night of December 28, 2025,

Starting point is 00:31:37 police were called to a home in the southeast side of Indianapolis. This was after multiple frantic 911 calls had come in. And these weren't neighbors who were calling 911. These calls were coming from inside the house. And the dispatchers say that these calls all came in from the couple's four children, all of whom were at home during the time that all of this went down. They were 10 years old, 14 years old, 16 years old, and 19 years old. And these kids were crying, screaming, just begging for help,

Starting point is 00:32:08 telling these operators that their dad was shooting their mom. One of the children even told 911 that their mother, had a restraining order against their dad, yet he was still there attacking her. So obviously, it was a lot of chaos, a lot of 911 calls, I mean, just pure, you know, kids being frantic and terrified and scared. And sure enough, when the officers arrived, they found 44-year-old Jerry lying in the driveway, and she had gunshot wounds all over her body. She was rushed to the hospital in critical condition, but unfortunately she later died from her injuries. Now, by the time that the police got there, Cecil, Jerry's husband, he had already left the scene. He was later

Starting point is 00:32:48 located during a traffic stop and was fortunately taken into custody, and the investigators also say that they found a handgun in his truck that matched the evidence from the scene. But this is where the case becomes especially hard to hear, as if it's not already extremely difficult, but just three days earlier, on Christmas Day, Jerry had filed for that protective order against her husband, Cecil. And in that, filing, she described that their relationship had recently become much more volatile. Court documents also allege that arguments intensified after Jerry learned that Cecil had allegedly been cheating on her, and she told the court that she feared that the situation was escalating beyond what she had seen

Starting point is 00:33:30 happen in their relationship before. She detailed physical violence in this report as well, including two specific incidents, one from Christmas Eve, where she said that Cecil hit her with a pair of kitchen tongs and it left behind cuts and bruises, and another incident where the two of them were fighting and he punched her in the face. She also wrote about a series of threats, including times when Cecil had threatened violence against their children. However, because this filing happened over the Christmas holiday, the courthouse was closed. So a judge never had the opportunity to review or sign into order, this protective order, before the shooting occurred just a few days later, which I have to say, too, though,

Starting point is 00:34:11 we know that a lot of people out there don't even let a protective order stop them. So even if this was filed earlier, who's to say that Cecil wouldn't have still gone to these measures, right? So I don't want there to be any sort of, you know, victim shaming that she should have acted sooner or anything like that because you never know if this will even stop him. But during all of this, when he did go into the home and attack her, the children were all still inside. So some of them, unfortunately, had to witness parts of what happened and others were hiding, calling for help, and just listening in, you know, the dark and hiding while everything was unfolding. It's just absolutely terrifying. And as a child, too, I know some of them were older at, you know, 19 years old, but for the 10 year old, the 14 year old,

Starting point is 00:34:54 even the 16 year old, and, you know, even 19 years old, how do you even reconcile that in your brain that you're witnessing your parents going against each other in that way and like how to intervene and like what to do? And they did the right thing. They all were constantly. calling 911 nonstop, but I just can't imagine like how traumatizing that would be for these children. So in early January, prosecutors charged Cecil with murder, and he's currently being held without bond as the case moves forward. Now, what has a lot of people very angry in this case and equally heartbroken is that Jerry did what so many people are told to do and what many people are scared to even do. She asked for help. She went to court. She put in writing that she was scared for her

Starting point is 00:35:37 life and she cited very specific examples as well, yet still she lost her life in front of her four children. It's what no mother would ever want to go through. I mean, no mother would ever want to lose her life, period, obviously, but like, I'm just speaking for myself here. God forbid, if I was ever in a situation like that or any situation where my life was about to end, I would just pray to God that it would not be in front of my kids and that they wouldn't have to witness that. It's horrible. So now these four kids, they're left. without their mother, they're left without their father, and they're carrying trauma that no child should ever have to carry. And it makes you wonder, again, what was the root in this? Was he truly

Starting point is 00:36:19 cheating? Was she getting ready to leave? Did he want control over her? Was he, what was going on? Not that the root matters, but it gives context, right? And we have said so many times, of course, just get a divorce, just do this. But also, in any moment where the abuser thinks that they're going to, you know, inflict death or harm to control the situation and to have their kids and to not break up their life. It's like, well, now your kids don't have either of you. So like, what the fuck was that for? You know, it's the kids are the ones who are left to suffer. Not, yes, they're your wife and their mother, but like your kids are the ones who are suffering through all of this. Like, I don't know how grown ass adults can make sense of it and think that that is the solution. No, and like, They say like crimes of passion and we talked even earlier about maybe it was just this boiling point. But when you have four of your children screaming out to you, like stop hurting. Like how is that not something that snaps you back in?

Starting point is 00:37:22 I know. Because I have the chills. I know. It's disgusting. And I don't know how a person gets to become like a father of four and then like completely disassociate to where that would not be motivation enough to stop. stop what you're doing. Yep. And just leave.

Starting point is 00:37:40 That's what I don't understand. There's no consequence to the divorce outside of your ego and maybe some finances or whatever. But it's like... Just get the divorce. Yeah. I know. I know.

Starting point is 00:37:49 I will never understand how people think that murder is the solution in any of this. It is. It is so beyond selfish. So that is what we have got today. I know that it was a lot. I appreciate you guys sticking through and dealing with our banter in the beginning because I'm trying to get better with that. But I just don't think that's on the horizon for 2026 for me.

Starting point is 00:38:11 I feel like self-improvement should be on my bingo card and it's not. Well, so next week, will we see you with a dark Bob or what are we in for? I don't know. I don't know, Amy. That's a great question. What are we in for? Can't wait. Tune in.

Starting point is 00:38:28 Yeah, tune in to find out or on my Instagram because that's where you'll see it first. I don't know. I really don't know. The million dollar question. But who's this calling me? Nope, decline. So thank you guys so much for tuning into another episode. As a reminder, I know this was a shorter week, but we still put out all of our scheduled content. So we put out an episode on Monday over on this exact same feed on Serialesley, where we do the full deep dive into Spencer and Monique Tepe, the couple in Columbus who were murdered. The ex, as you know, had been arrested. But we go into the ex's backstory, his connection with Monique. unique, everything going on there. So we put everything that we know on the case in that single episode. And then on the 10 to Life feed, we covered a brand new case, the case of Riley Crossman. And this is a tough one because it's about a girl who sent a final text message that haunted everyone.

Starting point is 00:39:26 So that is over on the 10 to Life feed available wherever you get your podcasts, also here on YouTube. So make sure you're following both podcasts, that you're subscribed on YouTube, all of the things. Follow me on Instagram. at underscore Annie Elise. That way, I'm just in your face all the time. All right, guys, thanks again. And until the next one, be nice, don't kill people, just get a divorce and don't be a Barrymoref you. Oh, don't be a Barry. Don't be a Barry. Sorry, any berries or anybody who's married to a Barry. Don't be a Barry. Did you see, too, that is now no longer a Karen? It's Jessica. I was dying. We have to go tell Jess. I saw, I saw, like, you know how it'll tell you what reals your friends liked?

Starting point is 00:40:04 I never look at that, but someone recently told me about it. So I'm like, oh, so I looked and Jess liked this reel that was saying the worst name that you can have is Jessica. I'm like, of course she would go. Of course she would. All right. Bye, guys. Bye.

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