Serialously with Annie Elise - 36: Alexee Trevizo Part 2: “It’s Not My Fault!!” The Disturbing Story of Teen Who Dumped Newborn in the Trash Can

Episode Date: July 24, 2023

Welcome back to this week’s episode of SERIALously! In today’s episode, we are going to discuss a case I covered a few weeks ago, Alexee Trevizo, the 19-year-old woman from New Mexico who put her baby in the hospital trash can after claiming she was a virgin. It’s an incredibly heartbreaking case and one that is so hard to wrap your head around. And now, in light of a huge twist in this case, and more details revealed, you know we have to go over this case again and go through police footage that I didn’t include, because just when you think this case couldn’t get any crazier….. It does.  Your True Crime BFF, Annie Elise  Part 1: Teen Dumped Newborn Baby in the Hospital Trash?! | Disturbing Case of Alexee Trevizo Today's Sponsors: Miracle Made: Go to https://www.TryMiracle.com/AE to get 3 FREE TOWELS and SAVE an extra 20% off! Zoc Doc: Go to https://www.Zocdoc.com/ANNIEELISE and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Then find and book a top-rated doctor today. PDS Debt Go to https://www.PDSDebt.com/Save to get a free debt analysis Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/teen-dumped-newborn-baby-in-the-hospital-trash/id1519456164?i=1000619099334 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4veW1FMQRgixdS62oUzTpV?si=qLViElLlR0O56zKgSKB_6w  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVb79dp0vrk All Social Media Links: https://www.flowcode.com/page/annieelise_ About Me: https://annieelise.com/ For Business Inquiries: [e-mail]

Hey true crime besties, welcome back to an all-new episode of Serialistly with me, Annie, your true crime bestie. We are going to talk about a case today that is a part two. It's a little bit of a follow-up because it is one that we talked about a couple of weeks ago. There have been some new developments and it is crazy. Now if you haven't guessed by now, the case that we are about a couple of weeks ago. There have been some new developments and it is crazy. Now, if you haven't guessed by now, the case that we are going to talk about is the one that I covered a few weeks ago, Alexi Treviso, the 19-year-old woman from New Mexico who put her baby in the hospital trash can after claiming that she was a virgin. It is an incredibly heartbreaking case and one that is just so

difficult to wrap your head around. Now, if you haven't listened to the first episode, I highly recommend starting there and then coming back for this update portion. Because again, this is more of a part two. So the first episode is linked in the show notes below and if you're watching this on YouTube in the video description., and if you're watching this on YouTube, in the video description. For those of you who have listened or watched the first episode about this case, you know that it was definitely a long one. And I included a lot of body cam footage, as well as hospital staff interviews, footage and surveillance footage from the hospital, you name it. Now, what's crazy is even though I included all of the major details, there's actually more that I didn't include, which, yes, believe it or not, that was the shortened version of the full story that we went over a

few weeks ago. And now, in light of a huge twist in this case and more details revealed, you know we have to go over this case again and go through the police footage that I didn't include in the first episode, because just when you think this case couldn't get any crazier, boom, it does. Now, if you're watching this over on YouTube, be sure to comment along with any new red flags that you see because, like I said, this one is wild. And as a reminder, this is an ongoing case and everything in this episode is alleged and sourced from court documents or police body cam footage and then anything else that I state is strictly my opinion only, so please remember to do your own research. Now baby, to tell me the truth. It was not crying or nothing. Let's see.

Have you watched the news of the girls, what they do to their babies and what they go to jail? It was crying. You bet when this is over, I'm coming for the police department and the hospital. I am. Yes, ma'am. From where we last left off, Alexi had been arrested and was let out on bail. She was ordered to attend therapy and a few other minor restrictions, but to be honest, it wasn't much considering the charges that she's facing. Alexi has been taking a lot of heat online, though, and so has her mom, Rosa. A lot of people are wondering if Alexi was hiding the pregnancy the whole time or if her mom truly had no idea that she was pregnant. From Rosa's reaction when the ER doctor came into

Alexi's room and accompanied by the police and said, we need to talk, I discovered a dead baby in the trash, my initial inclination was thinking that Rosa had to have a feeling that Alexi could have been pregnant based on all of the cheer footage we saw and the pictures of her stomach, but maybe didn't know how far along Alexi really was. It's also possible that she didn't know that she was pregnant at all, and I don't know what to think, to be quite honest. Do you guys have, I'm the charge nurse here, do you guys have any questions for me? Like how big is the baby? It's full term.

What? Nine months? Alexi was crying. Let's see. Have you watched the news of the girls, what they do to their babies and what they go to jail? Letty was crying. But then again, I think back to this. We discovered a dead baby in the bathroom. Oh my gosh. I'm sorry. He came out of me and I didn't know what to this. We discovered a dead baby in the bathroom. Oh my gosh. I'm sorry. He came out and I didn't know what to do. Lexi, I told you about this. I just asked you baby to tell me the

truth. It was not crying or nothing. So I mean, I've been taking her to the chiropractor because I always thought, you know, well this time, you know, I didn't know, I honestly didn't know she was pregnant. I didn't know. I just thought, like she said, I have back pain, my hips are hurting me, I think I need to go to the chiropractor. I said, okay, let's go tomorrow. But she was like in really a lot of pain and, you know.

When did it start? Like the pain? Yes. Today she's hurt, yesterday she said it was really bad that her hips were hurting and her back and then last night we're on the phone together and she said her hips were hurting bad and I said ask pastor, if anything else is hurting. And she said just everything. And she went to sleep. But she's a cheerleader too, so.

She's big in cheer. They have cheer competition. She works out. And she's been active this whole time? Yeah, she's been active this whole time. And who does she live with? With me. With parents.

Oh, with us. Yeah, because she's in school. She's a senior. And how long have you all been together? Almost two years. Two years? Okay. So I'm not trying to be rude to you, but you are more than likely would be the father? Okay. We know that multiple members of the hospital staff all said that Alexi and her mother both completely denied even the smallest chance Alexi was pregnant. Rosa said that she buys pad for her every month. Alexi said that she was a virgin, all of these things. Now, if that's the case, why is it a laughing matter when the officer asks her boyfriend if he's the dad? And what exactly did she quote-unquote tell Alexi about when she told her to tell the truth? A few days after the incident, Rosa talked with Artesia Police Department about the incident. Will it be you guys tomorrow? Yes. Okay, I told him at 10 o'clock you could come over. Okay. Okay,

you and your CYFD person? Yes. I'm better. Okay. It's just her, but you know. Did you hear about like HIPAA was broke and there's like a whole bunch of rumors out. I heard there was rumors through the high school. Yeah. The nurses do talk, but yeah, that's just small town stuff. But that shouldn't have happened. It shouldn't have. That's why it's HIPAA. I know. Well, because I was reading on that and like on Facebook, everyone's doing all that stuff.

Because we did do a disclosure, that was through our personal contact. That's our PSU command supervisor. So he did do one. He didn't put any name in it or anything like that. That's just something he did because he was being asked about it for so long. So that one was done but then I hear like the high school's talking a lot. Yeah I had teachers message me and everything. Really? so everyone already knows yeah that's the bad thing about small yeah that is the best in a small town but like I said but more importantly I talked to yes therapy and

I am gonna keep her home for about a week and I am gonna look for like therapy for her yeah yeah I'm gonna do all of that as much as I can today and tomorrow. Well, appreciate it. Yeah. At least you're actually a parent that cares. I love my daughter. She's my everything. But, yeah.

You guys can come over tomorrow. Okay. We will be there. It has a red roof. We'll contact you before and make sure it's still okay. Yeah. We do that all just before. So that way you're not like forget about it.

Some people do. No, I won't forget about it. Okay. We'll be there. Well, you have my number. The supervisor we talked to is Sergeant Perez. He's also, you have his number? Yeah. Yeah. We've been keeping in contact, so. All right. Also, do you know like when, anything about the autopsy, how fast? We asked to expedite it. I still haven't heard a word back. So it did happen on Saturday, but from speaking with Weidman, though my person assigned to the case, he said we're not hearing anything yet. So he told me as soon as we find out, or as he finds out, he'll let me find out. Are we getting him back? Did you know? We are getting him back, right? You will, yes. And that's why I was telling y'all at the beginning that, you know, with like names, stuff like that, and then who you'd want, like turpan and stuff, who do you want to do end-of-life care with.

Okay. When do you think we'd... I don't know. That's not up to me. When would you want... Okay. Okay. So, you know how...

So, with it being tricky, because technically you're not next to him, it would be your daughter, she would still, y'all would still be contacted with it because they'd have to find out where y'all want him to be transported to. Because some people pick them up from Albuquerque, other, because it's free of charge whenever they go from here to Albuquerque. And so it's free of charge coming back, but some people want to do, like with other cases they'll do it in Albuquerque because cheaper to cremate so like that there they have to get a hold of you first to get well they didn't have to get a hold

her first to let them know what they want to do next so they'll get a hold of you as soon as they're done with him I don't know taking so long usually they don't know we haven't even really we've tried to talk about that but she just didn't know she don't know well in town we have interpreting Roswell has way more options for like morticians stuff like that because you you have to talk about do you want to cremation do you want to burial yeah stuff like that okay and so that's because she is of age, so she would have to be the one to sign off on everything.

And I don't know y'all's financial situation, but y'all guys may be able to pay for it, but she still has to be the one to sign off on stuff with how that goes. Because with OMI and stuff like that, it has to be who's immediately next. Okay, so it's one of those that they will get a hold of her, and with that out something i would you and her would talk about what you guys want to do and him yes okay and you know keep that involved okay but it's one of those things you always all have to mesh out yeah okay we'll do

that all right we'll get it thank you so much get a hold of you tomorrow make sure all right sounds good all right thank you tomorrow bye i sure. All right. Sounds good. All right. Thank you, ma'am. See you tomorrow. Bye. I don't know what exactly happened, but it does sound like HIPAA is possibly broken. It also sounds like she is more upset that HIPAA was broken than the death of the baby. But that is just my opinion. Now, remember what she said here, because this will come up again later. But really quick, we are going to take a quick break to hear from one of today's sponsors. And I just want to thank you guys in advance because while I understand ads are not always the most fun thing to listen to, it does help keep

this podcast free. So let's hear from our first sponsor. A few months later, detectives were trying to reach Alexi on April 26th, a few days after the hospital staff interviews took place. Alexi didn't want to speak without a lawyer present, which wasn't an issue, and you can clearly hear the detective say that in the next clip. He just needed to hear that information from Alexi, not from her mother, because again, she is 19 years old, a legal adult. One of the detectives went to Alexi's school, where Alexi completely avoided and ignored him entirely. So later that day, he called Rosa. Ms. Rodriguez? Yes, sir. Hi, this is Detective Gonzalez, Artesia Police Department. Who is this? Detective Gonzalez, Artesia Police Department. Yes, sir. Hi, I'm calling you today because I

tried to get a hold of Alexi at school. Why would you go to school? Why wouldn't you come here to my house? Well, because you told me that I need to speak with the lawyer before you talk to me, but I need to hear that from Alexi first. Would she be willing to just tell me that in person at your house? Okay, why? What? Yeah, I'll have her tell you. So are you only going to talk to him at the lawyer's office?

I need to hear it. I have to be in person now so I know it's her. Hello? Hello? her. Hello? Hello? Hello? Hi, this is Detective Gonzalez. Okay. Hi, is this Alexi?

Yes. Hi, ma'am. I just need to meet you in person. I know your mom told me for you that you would only talk with a lawyer present. I just need to hear that in person, okay? I will only talk with a lawyer present. I just have to hear that in person, okay? When would be a good time to meet you to tell me that in person? You can come to my house right now, Detective Gonzalezalez if you want to i'm here and she's here okay that'll work i'll head that way then all right thank you thank you now let's get into the day that alexi was arrested may 10th 2023 i played a short clip in the last

video and episode but this is a part that makes a lot more sense now with this huge wrench that was thrown into the case recently. And like I said before when I first covered this, just when you think this family cannot behave even remotely like they understand the gravity of the situation or have an ounce of humility, we see this. Now I apologize in advance for the sound quality. It is not the best, so definitely'm giving you the cooperation. I told you to answer my question. What is she under arrest for? Like I said, she's over the age of 18. That's not, that is, that we can't really, bring her here, we'll tell you right now. What is she under arrest for? Bring her here, we'll tell you right now.

No, I'm not bringing her out here yet. Let me know what she's under arrest for. She's going to get arrested regardless of how many minutes. I don't know where she's going to get arrested. For what? For what? For what? Open count of homicides.

And that's what I'm asking you to do. I'm asking you to do what you're doing. I'm asking you to do what you're doing. I'm asking you to do what you're doing. I'm asking you to do what you're doing. I'm asking you to do what you're doing. I'm asking you to do what you're doing. I'm asking you to do what you're doing.

I'm asking you to do what you're doing. I'm asking you to do what you're doing. I'm asking you to do what you're doing. I'm asking you to do what you're doing. I don't know why. For what? For what? For what? Open count of homicide. And tampering with evidence. Tampering with evidence? Yes. At the hospital? Yes.

So, can you say your name? Give me a minute. Okay. I have a right to see a warrant. It doesn't matter if she's over the age of 18. This is my house. You have a right. You have to show me that warrant. Okay, I have the detectives here. They want to arrest my daughter. They're saying they have a warrant, but they can't show me a warrant for her arrest. Can I see the warrant? It's an arrest warrant for her. It's not a search warrant for your house. I wanna see the arrest warrant.

And what will that prove? You bet when this is over, I'm coming for the police department and the hospital. I am. Yes, ma'am. Yeah. I really am. And we understand, but we have to do a perp walk and doesn't need to be

handcuffed she's being arrested for murder i understand full well-being mama bear don't get me wrong but again just the entire gravity of the situation is insane to me. You can follow us over there. I will take you there. You can follow me there. As soon as I release the criminal complaint to her, she can then give it to you there, okay? When can I get, like, her bond? That's set up by the judge. It's Magistrate Judge Foster. He should be doing it. If it's after 3, he'll be doing it in the morning.

Hi. What's your name? Alexi. OK. So that's where you're social. She don't even know it. She don't know it? I don't know. I don't remember.

Alexi, do you know your date of birth? Yes. OK. What is it? Yeah? Do you have to walk her all the way up there? Can you bring her up here? Yeah. That's all. Just please.

I'll go get it. Okay. Well, actually, are you okay with your mom getting a criminal complaint when we get to the detention center? Yeah. It has your personal information on it. Can you repeat that? Do you want...

Are you okay with your mother getting the criminal complaint? It has your personal identifying information on it. So you're on the run to repeat a birth? Yes. Are you okay with your mother getting the criminal complaint? It has your personal identifying information on it. It's your own number. It's your birth. Yes. Are you okay? Yes.

Okay. Go ahead. I have to serve you first, then your mom can get it, okay? Okay. After that, I'm going to be meeting Ken. I do. He's going to move his unit around. Ken. No medications, anything you need to take while you're in there?

No, sir, no. Okay. She has still been, like, bleeding, so I don't know if she needs... Do you have any... I don't know if they have tampons. They do have tampons. Okay. Okay. But I'm pretty sure if you take your own, you can use your own.

Can she? Yes. Do you want to grab some? Can she grab some of that right quick? Yes. Get your little bag. What am I supposed to do? Go ahead. Go ahead.

Go ahead. Just making sure you're doing... Just grab me a little bit. Okay. And just nothing sharp, no flammables, nothing sharp, okay? Okay, they're going to check it when you get over there, okay? Okay. And then she says, Alexi is still bleeding?

Does she mean that she's still bleeding from the early morning hours on January 27th, months ago, when Alexi gave birth and threw her baby in the trash can? Alexi was arrested on May 10th. She certainly didn't appear to still be wounded and bleeding out when she went to prom with her boyfriend, but if she's still bleeding to that extent, doesn't she need to seek medical treatment because it has been several months now? Or wouldn't that be something to definitely mention if she is about to get booked into jail. Now here is Rosa after Alexi was arrested. This is a criminal complaint, okay? She wants, this is her copy. She didn't want to give

you a copy. She just didn't want to read it, so this is hers, okay? If she needs a copy, we can get her another one. Also, there's a search warrant for her DNA. All it is is a buccal swab, like when you go to the doctor's office, you open your mouth, you have a cough. Did she do that? Yes. Okay, this is her copy. She didn't want to read it either. Okay?

This is called return inventory. This is saying what I took for it, two pairs of buccal swabs sufficient for laboratory testing. Okay? Okay, are you going to isolate her? Does she need to be isolated? Gary Mitchell just told me, because that's our lawyer, Gary Mitchell, and he said if he just wants to keep her safe okay if anybody finds out that what she did what they think she did or you know and she doesn't want to any kind of harm okay so you guys could isolate her I just I don't want anything

to happen no I know it's time right he wants here to be put a special population that's what that means okay no I can I'll make sure if she does go out she shouldn't because she this is through medical court here in town and she should be seen tomorrow because it is a nonviolent she has no prior she more likely to be released tomorrow and because I don't know if the district attorney is going to do a pretrial detention or anything but if they don't then she'll see the judge in the morning and then go from there what yeah time? It depends on the judge's schedule. He has I believe 72 hours to see anybody but it just is on a

rotating docket. I think detention starts at 7 in the morning I'm not too sure right now. Is it for sure that she will get seen tomorrow? She has, the judge has 72 hours to see her. He has to see her before 72 hours or she gets released. Okay. Okay. More likely she'll be released on an OR. It's called order of recognizance, your own recognizance. Meaning like on, we're trusting you to go out there,

not commit any crimes, any more crimes, do anything else. You can't leave a certain area, stuff like that. That's more likely what will happen. All right. So that's where you're at right there okay all right thank you for being so all right i'll leave you on to it in multiple interviews alexi's lawyer was faulting the hospital for giving her morphine and saying that she was just a mother who had just lost her child. I saw hundreds of comments online and over on YouTube saying that morphine is not contraindicated with pregnancy and birth at that stage, and I heard this from a lot of you who have firsthand

experience. However, there was something else that her lawyer definitely didn't mention. Manner of death, homicide, how the injury occurred. Child was tied in a plastic bag. Now, in this autopsy, they said, yeah, there was air in the lungs. The baby took breaths. So how is it not murder? Well, tonight we're going to take a look at the toxicology report. I'm going to put it up on the screen.

I can't explain it to you, but caffeine, presumed positive. Morphine, 19 nanograms per milliliter, and we believe the morphine was administered by the hospital, then phenamine, 420 nanograms per milliliter. What does this mean? So yeah, what does that mean? I have no idea. I am obviously not a medical professional, but I am pretty sure that you can't take that while you're pregnant. And the full prescription information from the FDA for Phenermine agrees. Phenermine is strictly warned about during pregnancy because weight loss offers no potential benefit to a pregnant woman and may result in fetal harm. A minimum weight gain and no weight loss is currently recommended for all pregnant women, including those who are already overweight

or obese, due to obligatory weight gain that occurs in maternal tissues during pregnancy. Phetamine has pharmacological activity similar to amphetamine. Animal reproduction studies have not been conducted with phenermine, so if this drug is used during pregnancy or if the patient becomes pregnant while taking this drug, the patient should be well aware of the potential harm to the fetus. More than that, the potential birth defects include birth defects beyond one's ordinary background risk, fetal stroke and brain hemorrhage, global developmental delay, bilateral cysts, neural tube defects, cerebral palsy after birth, higher than usual birth weight and head circumference, and preterm labor and preterm

delivery. So this brings me back to this staff interview. Once we all figured out what was going on and I went in there, she essentially was scared. She was worried that she was going to get in trouble. She did have the back and forth with her mother that was just about like they said oh the mom was upset because she had had sex and hadn't told her so they were going back and forth on that and then she was just denying it which was wasn't really did not Apple at that point in time right so the patient was was not having sex at this point to her mom? Yeah, she was trying to state that she was still a virgin. After she came in from the bathroom?

Mm-hmm. And all the blood and all that? Okay. So, uh, did the pelvic and then I think shortly after that the mom was in the waiting room after that. Um, and then she was just worried, she was asked to be like what was gonna happen, I Shortly after that, the mom was in the waiting room after that. And then she was just worried. She was asking me, like, what was going to happen.

I told her, obviously, I did not know. Is this when you found out she was worried about getting in trouble? Did she tell you anything? She didn't say anything about what had happened. She was just essentially worried that she was just going to get in trouble. So that's what I mean. Were those the questions she was asking? Like what's going to happen to me? Like that kind of thing. Did she ever ask about the baby? No.

Not once? No. And so her folks, her being in trouble and anything other than that that she talked to you about? She did at one point in time when the ultrasound was in the room with her ask if there was anything she pretty much said would there be any like bad outcomes if she had started taking stop taking one medication and stop taking another and I said well what medications are you talking about? And she said, Well, what would happen if I stopped taking birth control and started taking weight loss medications? And I was like, I don't know.

Hmm. That's a hard question. I thought so. You're sure what would happen if you stopped birth control and started weight loss? Mm-hmm. And she didn't like expand on that? She didn't tell you why she was thinking that? No, it seemed obvious in my head though, so. Could you like tell me why it seemed obvious? Well it seemed like she had been trying to hide this pregnancy from her mother for some

time. So if you know you're pregnant, you're not going to continue taking birth control medicines. But if you're trying to hide it, you might start taking weight loss medications. That's just kind of what it seemed like in my head. Okay, just want to make sure, because it seems like it to me, just want to make sure. I'm not thinking... And was the argument between her and her mom pretty heated? I would say heated. It was awkward. Awkward? Yeah, like they were going back and forth and they were, her mom's definitely angry. And patient is 19, mom is quite a bit older. Gotcha. And they never once asked about the baby during the entire time you had contact with her

once she left the bathroom. Even after they found out that the baby was found and all that, they never asked anything about the baby. I did go, now never ask anything about the baby i did go now that i did go check on the mom just to give her an update and i think she asked about the situation um like asked what was going on but i told her i couldn't tell her anything so i just went to go tell her that like she's being transferred to Roswell. Right. And give her an update on her daughter, essentially. And that she asked about what was going on with all of that. She said, what happened to the bathroom? What happened to the bathroom?

I said, I can't tell you. Right. But nothing specific saying what about the baby? Correct. Okay. So Alexi was indeed taking some sort of diet pills, clearly. So was she doing this to hide the pregnancy? Did she truly not know that she was pregnant and just thought that she was gaining weight and needed to take these pills to lose it?

But more than that, where did she even get these pills? Were they prescribed to her? Now the next thing, according to court records in Eddy County in New Mexico, it appears that there has been an intent to file a wrongful death lawsuit. The filing of wrongful death claims is time sensitive and dependent on the state statute, but typically two years from the date of death. The biological parents were named in this suit as interested persons by the petitioner. And the petitioner is Arthur Bustos, a lawyer in Las Vegas, New Mexico, who has handled quite a few wrongful death cases, as well as many others. Now, interested person means any person who may reasonably be expected to be affected by the outcome of the particular

proceeding involved. But what's interesting is that when Alexi was asked if she wanted to put the father's name on the birth certificate, she said no. Now for now, we will have to wait for more details to come as all of this unfolds. The way it's listed right now, it doesn't say who it's filed against, but it lists the descendant as Alex Ray Fierro and Alexi and her boyfriend Devin Fierro. Now, this is a very interesting move, and I was really shocked to see this and wasn't sure what to make of it. case has more than insinuated that the hospital was negligent because of the morphine that they had distributed, because of the pregnancy test, and because they didn't try to save the baby. But I thought that he was meaning that as far as Alexi's defense for first-degree murder, saying she wasn't responsible for the murder. I didn't realize that they were going to try to go after the hospital for wrongful death. And I'm only assuming hospital because, like I said, it doesn't currently say,

but I'm wondering who else it could be that they're saying is responsible. And then you have Rosa saying this when Alexi was arrested. You bet when this is over, I'm coming for the police department and the hospital. I am. Yes, ma'am. So she's coming for the hospital and the police? Why? Is she upset that the hospital allegedly broke HIPAA laws and upset at the police for charging Alexi with murder and tampering with evidence? But at the same time, are they not seeing the same body cam and interviews as

everybody else out there? it is baffling. Do you guys have, I'm the charge nurse here, do you guys have any questions for me? Like how big is the baby doll? It's full term. What? Nine months? That thing was crying. Let's see. Have you watched the news of the girls that what they do to their babies and what they go to jail?

That thing was crying. We know from the hospital staff and body cam footage, when the baby was found, he was described as cold, blue, and purple, with his umbilical cord tattered and wrapped in a plastic bag. Both the ER doctor and the charge nurse described how heartbreaking it was that they weren't even given a chance to save the baby, meaning that he appeared to be past the point of saving. Maybe there is hospital protocol that life-saving measures must be taken no matter what condition someone is in, but it was very clear in multiple interviews that the hospital staff didn't just fail to do their jobs, this baby was gone. So once the baby was taken into the trauma room or trauma room. Yeah, he went into trauma too.

Okay, did you have any, what happened, what did you do at that point? I just remember I stayed in there because I actually went to go get Dr. Voskis and then I noticed that the abelicate cord looked like an animal had torn apart like you know have you ever eaten string cheese and you know when you twist it that's how the bottom of the abelicate cord looked and it I just remember it caught my eye and I was like god I was like this God, this check really ripped this thing apart because those things are hard to cut. So I had called housekeeping, which was Lela, and I was like, hey, Lela, I'm sorry to bother you. I said, but I think this patient just had a miscarriage in her bathroom and she left a mess. If you could come and clean it.

And she said, okay. So she came down and she started cleaning it and then she went to pick up the waste basket. And then she put the came down and she started cleaning it. And then she went to pick up the wastebasket. And then she put the basket down and she yelled for me. She was like, Lori, come here. The wastebasket's heavy. And I was like, what do you mean the wastebasket's heavy? So when I picked it up and I moved it towards the door, I was like, shit, it is heavy. So I pulled it out because it had like a fresh liner inside.

So we didn't think nothing of it because we looked. So when I pulled the liner out out there was like paper towels and she had we had rolled uh trash bags already in there but she had grabbed a few and like balled them up and put them on top of him so when i removed them that's when i noticed the baby on the bottom of the trash can just wrapped in the bag. Like she had it tight, like she, cause it was the top was twisted and then like tucked under, like, so it wouldn't open up. So basically if you like. Like when you grab trash and you like swing it.

And then you fold it over to like put it down or whatever. Yeah, that's how it went. When it was clear. It was clear bags. Yes, one of those clear bags. So yeah that's how when it was clear it was clear yes one of those so you saw the hospital liner so you saw the baby inside the bag yeah and then when i picked it up that's when i noticed it even more because all i saw was black and purple but once we picked it up like the bag suctioned to his face and that's when I yelled for my charge nurse which was HT and I told him um hey she put her baby in the trash can so um I handed the baby to him and he took off to the trauma room and opened up the bag and then that's when we went and got Dr. Vasquez the nurse said the charge nurse

said um the housekeeper and the secretary found a dead baby in the trash can. And so I said, well, where? Because now I need to verify if the child is alive. So they brought me the trash can. I ran into the trauma two room, the resuscitation room, and dumped it out. And it did not take me very long to determine that the child was dead. And I made the decision to not attempt resuscitation. Really, the temperature was cool and I also did not want to contaminate if it was a crime scene. And you said, so with the blood in the restroom, you said it was like smeared.

Can you describe where all it was smeared at? On the floor, there was some on the toilet, there was some on the wall. Do you remember which wall? Well, there's the one wall that's by the toilet that's closest to it where there's a side rail, there was some blood there. There was quite a bit of smearing on the toilet itself. And then on the floor it was just smeared around. Okay. What do you think that is from?

I thought she did something to herself physically. Okay. Because she found the way, the interaction between her mother and her daughter was weird. And so, but just to make sure, mother is patient's mother. Yeah. And then daughter is patient. Yeah. So the daughter is the patient and the mother, the interaction between them after she found

out she was pregnant, the way the daughter was reacting about, she was adamantly dying, she was in pregnancy, she was denying that she had sex. And you heard her say that? Yes, she was denying that openly. What did mom say when she said that? Well, mom was upset. And the mom was saying, I can't believe you, you know you can talk to me, you're supposed to talk to me about this stuff before you were having sex, all those kind of things,

she was saying stuff like that, which is pretty common. I mean, this isn't an uncommon thing. I see young girls having sex, and they come in, and they're pregnant, and then the mother is with them and find out. And it's upsetting to them. You know what I mean? So it wasn't uncommon. It happens. Finding out your daughter's pregnant is not uncommon. Not the other incident. Not the...

No, no, no. I've never seen anything like that. Okay, so I want to make sure. No. So just... No, I've seen lots of young girls come in and find out they're pregnant. And then, of course, they deny it. It's not uncommon that they deny that,

No, Mom, I haven't even been having sex. You know what I mean? That's a lot of those initial reactions. Right. haven't even been having sex. You know what I mean? That's a lot of those initial reactions. Because they feel like they're going to be in trouble, I guess. I don't know what they're feeling. But that's not an uncommon reaction that I see with young girls and their mothers, particularly with their mothers in there, or father, that they'll deny that they've had sex. That's pretty common. All right.

And so you said it was Lori that called you, you went in, and the liner was still on? Yeah, there was a clean liner on the top. That's what I was like, what are you talking about? And then she said, pick it up. And when I picked it up, it was heavy. I was like, holy shit. You know what I mean?

I knew right away, I knew that I just went straight to trauma too with the whole trash can. I just went across the hall and broke the baby. So after you, Doc, and Chris decided there was no resuscitation, what did you all do after that? What did you do after that? I made everybody leave the room and I told Lori to call the police. But then after that, anything else? No, I didn't do anything until the police arrived and they came and asked me what was going on and I took them into the room and told them this is what happened, this is what we found and I haven't talked to them yet. Okay. I haven't said anything to them So the officer arrived. So from the time of, you know, declining resuscitation to officer involvement, you didn't have contact with patient or mother? No. Okay, just want to make sure. No.

I didn't go in the room until after the policeman showed up and then I went in there to talk to the to the patient and asked her why was the baby in the trash can. And what did she say? She said that it just came out of her and she didn't know what to do. That's what she told me. And did she say it was breathing, not breathing? She didn't say anything like that, no. She just said it came out and she didn't know what to do. Right. Okay.

And at that point, did Mom say anything? Mom was kind of a little bit irate, like, oh my God, how could you, you know. But I think the mother was in an assumption that it was a miscarriage. Uh-huh. And I told her, ma'am, that is not the case. This is a full-term baby that was placed in the trash can. And then she really, and that's when I told the mom, ma'am, if you can't control yourself, I'm going to have to ask you to leave the room because she's 19.

She's an adult. And I even went out there and addressed the family. I said, I'm sorry the police are here now. This is kind of an investigation thing. We need to find out what happened. And no one will be allowed back into the working area anymore. And so I kept them in the waiting room. Did they have any comments?

Not one. Really? I was really surprised not one person asked me about the baby. If it was alive, if it was dead, if it was a boy, if it was a girl, no one asked me anything. Not even a patient? No, she didn't ask. The only thing she started doing was crying and started talking about, she didn't know what to do. Not one, I've never seen in my, I mean, I've delivered multiple babies and I've seen multiple

miscarriages and I've never seen a reaction like that. And I don't even know what to say about that. I've never seen anything like it. How would you describe the reaction? I think there was no emotion except for herself. And she really wasn't even crying tears. She was just, and the only thing she was upset about was that I think she was going to be in trouble with her mother. That was her only concern, in my opinion.

Is there anything we haven't asked you you think we should know? I'm just going to tell you this. I've never, ever seen a reaction like that girl I am I don't even know what to say about it it was zero emotion I just I don't know what to say I've never seen anything like it I've seen women that are only married or not married but um pregnant for six weeks and they lose that baby and they're a mess you don't mean that girl went into that bathroom made no sounds at all and the baby came out of her and had I I don't even know how she functioned that way to do what she did and with no emotion I've never seen anything like it. And it was a pretty good size baby. Pretty good size. It looked term to me.

Yeah, me too. I mean it was term, I can't tell you that was, but the only thing that upsets me the most is, I understand she was scared and I think her mother had a big dynamic on her. And I understand that. I mean I think her mother was probably pretty controlling. I don't know that. I'm just speculation. But she gave me no chance to save that baby. I had no chance. And that's not what I do. My job is to save lives. And I had no chance on that baby. She gave me no chance. And we are a facility that you can drop the baby off, no questions asked.

You can just leave the baby and go. I don't care. As long as you bring the baby to a safe place. We are one of those type of hospitals. It's hard to fathom what was going on in her mind. I don't know. I've never seen anything like that and I pray to God I never see it again. I mean it's like, it was like, I don't mean like TV shit, you know what I mean? Shit you just, I don't even know what to say, man. It was crazy. I also noted in the last episode how there was a little discrepancy regarding if Alexi was told that she was pregnant or not between some of the staff. These interviews were taken three months after the incident. So is this just a situation where it's just been a while and their memories aren't as fresh? Were some nurses under a different impression than others? Or was this

seen as an opportunity to attack the hospital's credibility of their entire account of the night based on these statements in hopes to get a wrongful death claim. We also have heard multiple hospital staff indicate that there is a call button for help in the restroom right next to the toilet. The hospital video surveillance shows Alexi's mom knocking on the door twice, a nurse knocking on the door twice, asking Alexi if she was okay. Alexi also indicated that she was just on her period and walked back to the hospital room like nothing had happened in the bathroom. So you also have Alexi saying that she has never had sex before over and over and over again and denying any possibility of her being pregnant. Not only that, but with the presence of phenamine found

in the baby's toxicology report, how on earth is anyone responsible for wrongful death other than Alexi? It really just blows my mind, this wrongful death suit, because I don't see how it can be targeted at anybody other than the hospital. While I understand maybe they're saying the morphine posed a risk, honestly, so did the phenamine that Alexi, the pregnant woman, was consuming herself. And if this baby was beyond life-saving measures when finally discovered in the trash can, how are they at fault for that? Because they didn't check the box of performing CPR even though the baby was already declared dead? Or how does that work? Because in my mind, and again I'm not a medical professional, but I would think whoever left the baby in that trash can to die and wrapped the baby

in plastic would be the one responsible for the death, not the people who discover and retrieve the dead baby. So how did we get from doing nothing to wrongful death? I know that this is a civil matter, but is this being used as part of her defense strategy in general? To say, hey, this girl really didn't know that she was pregnant. She was scared. She lost a son. Look, we have a wrongful death suit. She can't be guilty. That kind of thing? My other question is why wouldn't a wrongful death suit. She can't be guilty. That kind of thing. My other question is why wouldn't a wrongful death suit have been filed back in February or March or April or even May? Why was it filed after Alexi was arrested? Is it genuine or is it all part of the murder defense strategy? You bet when one news outlet that claims to have

information from an anonymous source. I truly have no idea if what they are reporting is true or not, so please do your own research and form your own opinions on this. The Daily Mail is alleging that an anonymous source says that Alexi's friends knew that she was pregnant and that she told them that she was naming the baby Alex. Additionally, this anonymous source said that students at her school suspected that Alexi was pregnant, but when it was brought to the school staff's attention, they were simply told not to fat shame. Now, usually, I wouldn't even touch on anything that isn't at least confirmed by multiple reputable outlets, but in this case, it seems like the Daily Mail is the only one saying this. However,

these reports about her baby being named Alex were made before the wrongful death documents appeared on the county court's website, showing the baby's name as Alex Ray Fierro. So now with all of this, what is the truth? Did Alexi truly not know that she was pregnant? Truly freaked out after giving birth all of the sudden in the hospital? Everything was the hospital's fault, and she didn't tamper with evidence. Did her boyfriend, Devin, know that she was pregnant? Did her boyfriend's mom know? Did Alexi's mom, Rosa, know?

Did Alexi have a name picked out like her friends are suggesting because she wanted to keep the baby, and this is all a huge misunderstanding? Or does her Alexi really believe she lost the son that she planned on keeping and it was the hospital's fault that the baby died? Joining me right now in Ruidoso, New Mexico, Alexi Treviso's defense attorney. He's back with us tonight, Gary Mitchell. Gary, thanks so much for joining us

again tonight. Autopsy results are out. Toxicology is out. What does it mean to you? Well, it means that this child didn't die like everybody thinks and the child wasn't killed by my client. That's what that means. At the end of the day, we know that there's a major issue with the autopsy and the way they claim that this child died of suffocation. That's not correct. We also know that the hospital committed a major wrong in giving my client morphine for a lengthy period of time, well over an hour, almost an hour and a half. And we know that the baby had morphine in it as well which suppressed breathing so there are many many issues we also know this child had certain bacteria that they found at the autopsy including E.coli which can cause major problems for a baby or elderly people.

We also know that she was positive for COVID and influenza A and B. So we had a very sick child. And we also know that from other forensic pathologists that the type of tests run by the lab, by the Office of the Medical Investigator in New Mexico, are not classically used. So we have major issues in that regard. And then we've learned that some of the things that the hospital has been saying are incorrect. Uh she never for example, she never told him that she was a virgin. She never told him that she didn't have sex. Uh that uh things of that particular nature. So there's a lot at what point because we bring it back to the fact that she goes to the bathroom to deliver this child.

At what point did the hospital know she was pregnant? At what point did she know she was pregnant? They knew she was pregnant at 12.51, 51 minutes after midnight. They did not tell her she did not know she was pregnant until she had the baby at 139 140 in the bathroom that's when she first learned that she was giving birth so the hospital knew for 46 minutes that she was pregnant. They didn't tell her. They let her go to the bathroom. And we know that a woman given birth, particularly a teenager, may feel that they simply have to go to the bathroom. You use the same or similar muscles in that regard. We also know that they continue to give not only morphine, but five other different drugs, four of which are contraindicated for birth for a fetus.

So the hospital knew all of this. They didn't stop. And not only that, they unhooked her from the IV and allowed her to go to the bathroom knowing that she was pregnant at the time. I mean, a cardinal sin in the emergency room. So what is the status of the case right now? These results are relatively new. It wasn't known the last time we spoke at least. So are there conversations going back and forth with prosecutors or are we just on the track of this thing moving towards a trial? We're on the track of this moving toward a trial. We're in the investigatory stage. At least I am. I'm getting my experts, giving them all the materials. Obviously, you know from my conversation with you that I've already talked to certain experts, and I have a lot of information about the case. Plus, the trial is not set until next year. We know that the trial date

that was set in the fall is going to be moved, and I'm preparing motions regarding everything from changes of venue to the misuse of privileged privileged materials to a motion to suppress certain statements and things of that particular nature. And final question here tonight. Alexi, your client, she's not behind bars, right? She's released and being monitored. What's her status tonight and how would you describe her state of mind right now? Well, first of all, she just graduated high school. She stays alone with the exception of her parents.

And she doesn't go out. And other than visiting a sister or relatives that may come by, she doesn't see any friends. She has no physical contact with her boyfriend, the father of the child. She talks to me, and she's in some counseling as ordered by the court. All right, Gary. Other than that, there's a very stoic life. Yeah. Gary Mitchell representing Alexi Treviso.

We appreciate your time tonight. Definitely let me know in the comments on YouTube what you make of all of this, because my head has been spinning. According to the court website, it looks like Alexi's trial is now scheduled for January 2024. The one thing that I am extremely curious about will be what comes up in the digital evidence for this case. Because I really do believe that digital evidence recovered from Alexi, Rosa, her boyfriend, her boyfriend's mom, etc. will seal Alexi's fate one way or another. So it'll be very interesting to see if anything comes of that.

If she did know she was pregnant, certainly we will see that through text messages exchanged between her and her boyfriend, possibly even her and her friends, text messages from her boyfriend immediately following the birth and the events that transpired in the hospital, text messages and phone calls made after Alexi's arrest, I think that the digital evidence is going to be absolutely instrumental in this case.

According to her lawyer, Alexi was supposed to be attending New Mexico State University this coming fall, so we don't know if she will be attending, and personally, I don't think so, but we have seen crazier things happen literally this is a case that seems to have everyone up in arms online nobody can make sense of it because some are suggesting that Alexi is a victim of her mother's and that she couldn't confide in her mother that she was pregnant that that's why this all happened she was so terrified she was so scared she didn't know what to do while some people are suggesting Rosa did know, which if she did know, I don't understand why they even would have gone into the hospital that night the way they did. I don't know what to make

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