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Starting point is 00:00:30 Hey, true crime besties, welcome back to an all-new episode of Serialistly. Hello, hello, hello. Welcome back to an all-new episode of Serial-Lessly with me, Annie Elise, your true crime bestie, here to break down everything that is going on this week in true crime. Now, I have to say, not only do we have a lot of updates here to existing cases that we have covered, but we have quite a few new ones that we have to go over as well. I'm going to be flying solo for today's episode. Amy has like the flu or norro or something. I don't know what. But she's not here. She's not feeling very good. So it's going to be just me. You're stuck with me today. But we do have a lot to talk about. And I kind of want to just jump right in because these updates, I've seen a lot of you and my DMs about them. I've been seeing them flooding my feeds and screens. So let's talk about it. The first one is regarding the David case, D4, VD, David. the singer, right? So his friend has now been arrested in Montana after failing to appear as a grand jury witness. And before we get into the full new breakdown of that and like exactly what happened

Starting point is 00:01:59 and what that means, I do want to give you a quick refresher on that case and, you know, just in the event that you have been unfamiliar. But 14 year old Celeste Hernandez, as we know, died under circumstances that have raised a lot of serious questions. She was found in David's frunk, which I freaking hate that word, but his front trunk of his Tesla body was so badly decomposed that they were not able to determine cause of death, manner of death, or anything like that, but it was determined that she would have been approximately 14 years old at the time that that happened. And that raised a lot of questions, especially around all of those people who were close to her around the time of when her death would have happened. And yet despite a lot of concern

Starting point is 00:02:43 from the public and what a lot of people think is pretty clearly David being involved in all of this, there have been no murder charges filed, no serious arrests relating to the murder charges or to a murder at all. And again, it goes back to how her body was found. If you can't charge somebody with murder, if there's no cause of death or manner of death or anything like that, especially if she perhaps overdosed and they were just concealing her body, that's obviously a far lesser charge. but still, this has been, gosh, what now, months now of just pretty much silence and a lot of just like quiet to where nobody understands what's going on with this case and if it's moving forward. And it has a lot of people frustrated and obviously confused as well. So that's where this update starts to not only tie in, but possibly, to me at least, it feels like some forward momentum.

Starting point is 00:03:36 Because last Thursday, David's friend, Neil Langston, was arrested at his. mom's house in Helena, Montana. And like I said, this was after failing to show up as a witness to testify before a Los Angeles grand jury. And prosecutors were apparently expecting Neo to testify as part of the ongoing investigation into Celeste's death. But multiple other witnesses already had appeared before the grand jury ahead of him. Yet he failed to show up, didn't want to show up, whether that's because he's refusing to cooperate or because he doesn't want to implicate himself. Who really knows what the truth is, but it's not a good look either way. And at this point, there still are no murder charges in this case. So what that exactly means, it's anybody's guess.

Starting point is 00:04:20 We just have to kind of wait and see and see what goes on here. But the arrest does feel like a meaningful shift. Like maybe it'll get him to start talking. Maybe they'll learn some more information. Maybe they'll be able to eventually get into his devices if they have a warrant, things like that. So Neo is now facing a felony charge for not showing up. And he was being held in the L.A. County jail on a $60,000 bail. Last I saw, he's already bailed himself out and he's back out there on the streets. So again, we will see what this means, if anything. But at least it feels like some type of, you know, forward movement in this case, possibly, hopefully.

Starting point is 00:05:00 Now in this next update, it has to do with Lindsay Clancy. And this is a case, a lot of you know that I personally am very close to, just emotionally, because of my own journey with postpartum depression, which I have never kept a secret from you guys. And I've talked a lot about it. I've also lost a friend to postpartum psychosis. So this case just hits a little bit different. And before we get into the update, let's do a quick recap on this because it's been a while since we talked about Lindsay Clancy. But she's the Massachusetts mother who was charged in connection with the deaths of her three young children. In this case, I get it, it sparked a wild conversation and a lot of controversy because a lot of people think that this was premeditated. It was intentional. She's a family annihilator and that it's horrible. Well, there's this other group out there that thinks, no, she was, you know, sick. She wasn't in her right mind. She was experiencing a postpartum psychosis. She did everything she possibly could do to get on the right meds. She knew something was wrong. She tried to do inpatient treatment. They didn't allow her.

Starting point is 00:06:03 her in all of these things. And so I'm not saying I stand with one or the other. I truthfully, I don't know. I'm still waiting for the trial. But it has sparked a huge debate out there from both sides. And from the very beginning, it's been just polarizing and obviously very emotionally charged with a lot of unanswered questions. And a lot of people asking too, like, what were the warning signs? What were the symptoms and systems that could have failed her through all of this? And it's back in the spotlight now, but for a very different reason. From the very beginning, we know that Lindsay's husband, Patrick, stood by her side. He was with after the arrest. She ended up, again, for those who don't know, she took the lives of her three children, allegedly. She hasn't been convicted yet.

Starting point is 00:06:49 And then she tried to take her own life and jumped out the window and is paralyzed from the waist down. And ever since she was admitted into the hospital, Patrick, her husband, has been by her side because he vocalized that he knew what she was, like the struggles that she was going through, that she was seeking treatment. She knew something wasn't right. She was also a prenatal nurse. And he was like she would never do something like this. Something, you know, there was a chemical imbalance. So now Patrick has filed a wrongful death lawsuit on behalf of their three children and filed this lawsuit against several of Lindsay's doctors when she was out seeking treatment and help. In this lawsuit, he claims that her medical treatment actually helped set the same. stage for the children's deaths. According to the filing, the lawsuit alleges that Lindsay was,

Starting point is 00:07:35 quote, overmedicated, prescribed a large volume of psychiatric medications, and that her providers failed to properly monitor or coordinate her care as her condition continued to deteriorate. The symptoms outlined include insomnia, anxiety, disorientation, and suicidal ideation. The lawsuit further argues that very brief video-only appointments and significant missteps in the treatment really prevented doctors from recognizing just how severe her condition had become. And that had her care been handled differently, this horrific tragedy could have certainly been prevented. Again, up for debate. A lot of people don't agree on this case. We will see what happens when the trial starts. I believe the trial is scheduled for this summer. I'm not sure the exact date or a month,

Starting point is 00:08:24 but I believe last I looked it was in the summer. And we did cover this case in depth. I'll link the full episode in the show notes. But there was a lot of compelling evidence, in my opinion, indicating that she was trying to get help. Things in her notebook written down about thoughts that she was having phone calls being made saying, I need to be, you know, admitted into treatment. I can't be left by myself at my house. Like these thoughts are awful.

Starting point is 00:08:49 And all sorts of different medication that was switching from one day to the next, to where she didn't even have time to really see if that other medication was working. And look, that doesn't excuse any actions. It certainly doesn't excuse the deaths, the three deaths of her children and the way in which it was done because there also was the element of forethought with it, right? She, her husband was supposed to be watching her, for lack of a better, you know, description at the house. And she sent him out to go get the prescription for her child, for one of her children.

Starting point is 00:09:22 she sent him to go pick up dinner, which a lot of people are, of course, saying, you know, that was done intentionally. That was premeditated. She was planning this. And that's why she sent him away. And that doesn't mean you're just, you know, snapping in a brief moment of psychosis. So it's going to be interesting to see all of the discovery and everything that comes out in the trial and where this truly lands. Moving into another update before we get into the cases today, let's talk about the Tepe case in Ohio, because Michael McKee has now pled not guilty. As a reminder, Spencer and Monique were brutally murdered inside their home in Ohio via gunshot wounds. Two to Spencer, I believe, one to Monique. And this quickly became one of those cases that everybody was drawn to wanting to know how this happened,

Starting point is 00:10:10 why this happened. Their two children were left inside the home unharmed. As they were looking for a suspect, come to find out, it allegedly was Monique's ex from years ago, literally a decade, to go. What could have made him, you know, have all of this rage 10 years later was this plan? And it's been a huge conversation. We actually did a deep dive into this case as well last Monday. So you can go listen on the feed where we talk about his past relationship with Monique, the dynamics there, how scared she was of him in the weeks leading up to these murders, and just a little bit more clarity on what and color behind what that relationship looked like and what. What, transpired allegedly between the two of them. So now here's where we're at. Last Friday, Michael,

Starting point is 00:10:59 the accused killers, he appeared for his arraignment and he did not say a single word. He appeared very briefly via video from jail where his attorney entered a not guilty plea on his behalf. He's currently facing, by the way, four counts of aggravated murder and one count of aggravated burglary. So if he's convicted, he's looking at a minimum sentence of life in prison with the possibility of parole after 32 years or a maximum sentence of life without parole. Now I also want to take just a quick moment to talk about his attorney. I'm not going to go into details because I'm actually going to be talking about the details with a very special guest tomorrow about this, but his attorney is not a low profile name. A few years back, she was actually part of a defense

Starting point is 00:11:43 team representing an Ohio doctor that had been accused of prescribing excessive amounts of fentanyl. And this was a case that was tied to 14 different patients, which this team ultimately got this doctor acquitted on all 14 counts of murder relating to that case. And she played a huge role in that outcome. So he has this very high profile, although not a name like Alan Jackson or a recognizable name. He has this attorney who has, you know, track record of getting people off of murder charges. So we'll see where this goes. Now let's get into this first case that I want to share with you, one of these newer cases. It's coming out of the St. Lucie County, Florida area.

Starting point is 00:12:24 And this is one of those stories that, yes, it starts off a little bit strange, but then it turns into something truly disturbing. So late at night on January 15th, deputies with the St. Lucy County Sheriff's Office responded to a 911 call about a suspicious person that was behind a truck stop in Fort Pierce. The caller said that a man was lying on the ground and that he was rolling around, just act. very erratically and was near a semi-truck that had run off the road and was near a ditch. And sure enough, when the deputies arrived, they found 41-year-old Olson Jean from Pompano Beach, Florida right near the truck. Olson gave them a few inconsistent explanations at one point even claiming that he was, quote, jogging around while gesturing, like in a circular motion, just being like, yeah, I was just running

Starting point is 00:13:10 around doing that. But it was almost midnight at the point when all of this went down. So that kind of begs the question who's out just like jogging at midnight unless you're Brian Coburger, I guess. I don't know. That's what I know he said. But with every single excuse he gave, Olson consistently denied that this truck was his. He said that he drove a waste management tractor, that he did not drive a semi-truck. This didn't belong to him. And he tried to just walk away from the scene. However, police then learned that the truck was linked to an LLC. So from that, they called the owner. And sure enough, this owner said that he leased the truck to Olson. It was his. And so this is, of course,

Starting point is 00:13:48 the moment when the police really started getting suspicious. Like, why are you lying saying this truck doesn't belong to you? What are you trying to hide? What's going on here? Why is it off the road in a ditch? Like, what's happening? So as deputies continued to look around, they noticed something that was very, very strange. There was blood on the outside of the truck. And then when they opened the door to the truck, they found a large amount of blood inside of it. And it was actually said that there was, quote, blood all over the place. So at this point, this obviously was no longer just this strange roadside call. It was clear that something much more serious was going on here. So investigators quickly got a search warrant and they had the truck towed to the sheriff's office so they could

Starting point is 00:14:30 go through it thoroughly. And that, unfortunately, is when they made the horrific discovery that took this once strange situation into a full-blown homicide investigation. Because the body of 32-year-old Wendy Monsione from Coconut Creek, Florida, was found inside the truck. It was found hidden in a storage compartment right beneath the sleeper bench, the part of the truck where a driver will normally sleep on, you know, long halls, long drives once they pull over. And the medical examiner later determined that Wendy had died from a single gunshot wound to the back of the head. His death was officially ruled a homicide, which let that just sink in for a second here. He was shot in the back of the head. Then he was hidden inside this truck bench, you know, storage

Starting point is 00:15:15 compartment area, and then traveled all over the United States, just in plain sight. So obviously somebody didn't want him to be found. And if it wasn't for that person who called 911 saying that Olson was acting erratically, who knows how long it would have been before this discovery was made. And then the investigators learned another detail in all of this. It wasn't some random occurrence or some random stranger or passerbyer or somebody that was picked up at the truck stop. Olson and Wendy were cousins. So this was not a random victim. This was family.

Starting point is 00:15:49 According to investigators, Wendy had been traveling with Olson from Georgia to Florida, reportedly flying in to meet Olson so that he could ride with him and keep him company on the trip because it was going to be a long trip and Olson had concerns about sleeping in his. his truck by himself on the long haul. So again, this wasn't some random encounter. It was family and something very triggering, which how does it escalate from your cousin wants to accompany you on this, like, cross-country long haul drive, and you guys are going to hang out together and do this road trip thing for work to then you're shooting him in the back of the head and putting him in the storage compartment and just like continuing on as though nothing ever happened. Then as the

Starting point is 00:16:30 investigators dug deeper, even more disturbing details came out. Deputies searched the area near where the truck was found, and they had discovered multiple firearms, including a rifle, a handgun, several magazines, and another handgun that was near a canal. According to the sheriff's office, the weapons seemed to be intentionally placed there as well, suggesting that somebody either tried to move them or tried to hide them. And another piece of the puzzle also was then discovered. Court records showed that Olson's fingerprint was found on one of the handgun magazines. So this now directly tied him to the weapons that were recovered near the scene, but strategically had been, you know, attempted to be ditched and hidden.

Starting point is 00:17:12 So Olson was arrested on January 17th, and he was booked into the St. Lucie County Jail on multiple charges, including first-degree murder with a firearm, tampering with evidence, resisting an officer without violence, and he's currently being held without bond. Now, what authorities have not shared publicly yet is why this happened or even a theory as to why this happened. No motive has been released. No explanation of what led up to Wendy's death. No insight into what may have actually happened inside that truck before he was shot. Just silence. Which I think we all know that's because they're building their case. They're continuing their investigation. They want a slam dunk. So this is an active ongoing investigation and hopefully we'll find out the why eventually. But, Again, just a very sad situation as a whole. Now, okay, this next case that we're going to talk about is out of Wisconsin. And it's not only heartbreaking, but I have to say it is deeply, deeply disturbing. On January 14th, police were called to the port motel in Milwaukee for a report of a woman who had been found unresponsive. Now, inside one of the rooms, the officers and the medics discovered a 29-year-old woman named Alicia Matchnik. She was lying on the bed with a single gunshot. wound to her head. Now, of course, with that type of injury and the location, she was pronounced dead at the scene. And by the time that the police arrived, the person who had been there with her

Starting point is 00:18:36 had already fled, long gone. So the investigators quickly started looking into surveillance footage, right? They wanted to see, okay, who has been in and out of this motel? Who was with her when she arrived? What's going on here? And it showed that Alicia had checked into the room with her husband, 29-year-old Lance White, just two days before. And on the day that she died, cameras showed Lance leaving the motel room around 1128 a.m. But after that, nobody else was seen entering or exiting the room, not until Alicia's body was discovered hours later. So inside the room, police found a spent bullet casing and a bullet with what appeared to be blood on it. They also found several of Lance's personal items, including his state ID, his debit card.

Starting point is 00:19:21 his birth certificate, even his social security card. And that kind of begs the question, was he really trying to flee? Why wouldn't he take those things with him? Was he ever, was he planning on coming back later to possibly dispose of her body? And that's why he left those things behind because he knew he was coming back. Like those feel like very important documents and items to leave behind a crime scene if you are planning to never return, right? But we have seen, you know, really stupid criminals. So who the hell really knows? But later that week, Lance was arrested and he was charged with first-degree intentional homicide, which is the most serious murder charge in Wisconsin.

Starting point is 00:19:57 He also made his very first court appearance, and his bond was set at $300,000. But here's where things take a turn and where the details in this case get especially disturbing. Because according to a probable cause affidavit, Lance allegedly told investigators that Alicia had, quote, asked him to shoot her, specifically saying,

Starting point is 00:20:18 shoot me at the spot where your name is tattooed on my forehead, which I could go off on a tangent on that all alone, but that detail alone has kind of like shocked people who are following this case. Like who, first of all, who has somebody's name tattooed on their forehead, no shame. But then who is also saying, shoot me where your name is. I want you, the person whose name it is to shoot me in the forehead. It just doesn't really make a lot of sense. But this is what Lance was saying. Lance also reportedly told police that Alicia was afraid of her child's father.

Starting point is 00:20:48 saying that he was expected to be released from prison in about 11 months and that he was going to kill all of them. So according to the affidavit, Lance said Alicia asked him to shoot her because of that fear. Which again, that doesn't really add up either when you do the breakdown of the math there. If he's not going to be released for nearly a year, why would she beg you in that moment to shoot her right now? It's like you've got 11 more months until that happens, even if that was a legitimate fear. It just doesn't make a lot of sense. I mean, for me, I've covered enough lovers quarrels and spats and domestic violence situations to where I think that there was anger and hostility and toxicity there and he chose that location to shoot her just my opinion allege

Starting point is 00:21:29 because it was his name it was probably a tattoo signifying their love and it was you know I think there was much more thought behind it I don't think that his story is legitimate which look I'm not a jury so we will see when it goes to trial but that's just my initial thought when hearing all of this further on into Lance's version of events, he allegedly admitted that he shot Alicia once in the head, as we know, and then left the room, quote, in shock. Once he was away from the motel, he threw the gun into a sewer at some nearby apartments. He tried to check into another motel that afternoon and was just going to fly under the radar. But he apparently was then denied a room at this other motel because he didn't have his ID. Remember, he left it behind in the other room. So that's when law enforcement

Starting point is 00:22:16 found him and they arrested him and they actually arrested him at a local hospital, which I don't know the exact details of why he went to that hospital if he was injured himself or what exactly was happening, but that's where he was arrested. So as part of their investigation, police also spoke with Alicia's mother who said that her daughter and Lance had been married for about a year, but she said that ever since Alicia's life has, quote, spiraled out of control. Meanwhile, though, Lance told investigators that he and Alicia were only dating, that they actually are not married. that their relationship was just now at the point where they just were together, they enjoyed getting high together, they were sexual, but it wasn't anything serious. So again, stories that just

Starting point is 00:22:57 really are not lining up. Now, the claim that Alicia asked to be shot, it only comes from what Lance allegedly told the police in his statement to the investigators. And because of this statement, prosecutors are alleging that he intentionally caused her death, which in Wisconsin, consent is not a defense to a murder charge, and courts treat claims like this with extreme scrutiny, especially when it involves intimate partner deaths and things like this case does. So Lance's charge carries one of the most severe potential penalties under state law, including the possibility of life in prison if convicted. Alicia was only 29 years old.

Starting point is 00:23:36 And regardless of what may have been happening in her life, whether they did enjoy getting high together or what kind of relationship it was, I mean, she deserved support, protection, intervention, not some sort of horrific violent ending. And it could be that they were high at the time, too. And that's what he was doing. I mean, who really knows what the truth is? Because I think his statements and his version of events are so skewed from the evidence, the reality, the mother's statement that somewhere in the middle is where the truth lies. So the case is still unfolding in court. And the full story will come out over time, of course, as the evidence is tested and the legal arguments are made. But based on what prosecutors allege, and what's been reported so far, we obviously know that this is a very deeply tragic and troubling case and awful, just horrible. And I think once it goes to trial, it will be interesting to see what's going on in their devices, if they own any devices, what the dynamic of that relationship was, were they truly married, you know, was somebody being released from prison in 11 months? What's the truth here? Because I still have a lot of questions. If you've ever hit that brain rot moment around 3 p.m. where,

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Starting point is 00:27:38 worst fear, and it honestly feels like we see this happen far too often, or we've seen too many Lifetime movies about this particular type of situation, which, by the way, fun fact, I learned this years ago, the majority of lifetime movies, especially the ones that are on the LMN network that are like true crime adjacent or related, they stem from real life cases, real life moments in time. So again, yes, worst fear unlocked, but that's because it really does happen, right? So this case is about a woman named Amanda Wixen, who is a 56-year-old mother of 10 from England and the woman that she kept captive in her house for more than 20 years. According to a police statement that was made on January 22nd, it all began back in 1996 when Amanda apparently

Starting point is 00:28:27 took in a very vulnerable teenager who had learning difficulties. The girl, who is now 40, but was 16 at the time, was supposed to be getting help and support from Amanda. They had known each other ever since the woman, who, again, has not been named, was a child. So this was supposed to be a safe place for her with a caring adult, a grown-up, somebody who was going to help her with her difficulties learning and just support her and take care of her. There had already been pre-established trust as well. She knew her since she was younger. And so at 16, she moved in with her. But instead of being loved and supported and cared for, she just disappeared into this house and didn't come out until 2021.

Starting point is 00:29:07 More than two decades had passed. Entire chapters of life, over 20 years gone, all spent inside this house, inside these four walls, being controlled by one person. So what prosecutors laid out in court wasn't just neglect, but truly it was modern day slavery. The woman wasn't allowed to leave the house. Her doors and windows were locked.

Starting point is 00:29:29 She was completely isolated from society, and more than all of that, she was forced to work constantly. She cleaned, she cooked, she cared for Amanda's 10 kids, and she would, like, scrub the floors on her hands and knees so hard that police later even documented calluses that had formed on her body, just from this severe labor, physical proof of years that were spent working without any sort of pay, without choice, without rest, without anything. And while she was working completely nonstop,

Starting point is 00:30:02 She was also being physically abused. Reports say that she had been repeatedly beaten with a broom handle, and that she had been hit so severely that her teeth had been knocked out. She also allegedly had been strangled, her head was forcibly shaved, and she was just constantly reprimanded and humiliated. Other sources say that she had dishwashing soap and hand soap poured down her throat regularly. Bleach was thrown into her face, She was denied all hygiene and medical treatments the entire time that she was there for over two decades.

Starting point is 00:30:36 She was denied food, with the exception of like scraps that were literally thrown to her by Amanda, the woman who was controlling her and holding her captive. And just the ultimate level of torment, forcing her to do all of her cleaning, her cooking, the dirty work, not paying her, giving her scraps, hurting her physically. It reminds me a lot of a lot of the House of Horror cases. but especially ones where they also deny you medical treatment, basic hygiene, where you're just filthy and imagine that. You're, you know, sitting in your own filth for years and years and years. No dentist appointments. No doctor appointments. She was 16 at the time that she went into the house. I would imagine she had already started her period at that point, but like no regular, like, female checkups. It's just horrific and barbaric, honestly. It truly is.

Starting point is 00:31:25 So police also described the room that she lived in, and they said that it resembled a prison cell. It was bare, dirty, covered in mold, and just completely dark. It was far from a bedroom, they say. They say that it was a room specifically made for her confinement. And throughout all of this, it was discovered that Amanda, the head of all of this, was claiming benefits under this woman's name for the entire 20 years that she lived there. The only reason that any of this ended and her master plan folded is because in March of 2021, this woman managed to make a secret phone call. And while we don't know the details of who this woman is exactly who she called that day, we do know that it was apparently somebody that she trusted.

Starting point is 00:32:09 And that person immediately went to the police, which thank God. Now, when the police found her, as you can imagine, she was severely malnourished, she was scared, and she was just traumatized. Her body showed multiple scars from chemical burns, her health head deteriorated, and like I mentioned, her teeth were just completely gone. Gone. Police were calling the abuse that she went through and the signs of everything that she had endured and suffered through was, quote, cruel and inhumane. Which thing about that, her life, the one that she never even got a chance to live at just 16 years old, was just ripped away and stolen from her. So on January 21st, Amanda was found guilty of two counts of forced labor, false imprisonment, and three counts of assault causing bodily harm.

Starting point is 00:32:55 Here's where I get a little bit frustrated. She was actually acquitted on one assault charge, but luckily the rest of the charges that were still in play painted a very clear, horrifying picture of just long-term exploitation and control. Meanwhile, Amanda has continued to deny all of the charges against her saying she did absolutely nothing wrong. And get this, I don't know the difference between England and the U.S., but this is something that infuriates me and I need to do a little bit of digging into it. but she's currently out on conditional bail until she's sentenced. That's scheduled to happen on March 12th. So tell me this. If somebody's already been found guilty of these things,

Starting point is 00:33:32 and if you know you're facing a pretty hefty sentence for your crimes, but you're let out on bail, you know what's going to happen? That person's either going to flee. They're going to take their own life. They're going to do something. Think of Fotis Doulos, right? He was going back and forth to court all these things, and then he took his own life and never had to answer to anything.

Starting point is 00:33:51 nobody still knows where Jennifer Doulos's body is. So it's like, again, I'm not a judge, I'm not an attorney. I just don't understand if somebody is found guilty of things like this, why are you not holding them until sentencing? Why are you even allowing the opportunity for something to happen and to go wrong and them not to have to face the crimes that they were convicted of? It makes absolutely zero sense to me, truly. So we don't know much about the woman, as I mentioned, who survived this complete

Starting point is 00:34:21 nightmare, but we do know that she is receiving supportive care right now and working on rebuilding her life. She's finally free. She's safe. She's able to live her life outside of that house. But surely, there is a lot of PTSD that will come with that, a lot of therapy that needs to be had, and that's a long road ahead. Which, again, think about that. I keep saying 16 years old, but go back in time over 20 years before cell phones, before internet, all of these things that now when you're on the outside world, even if you're given the toolbox of things to build your life and stipends to help you with medical treatment or care and all these things, you're learning everything from scratch. It's a completely new foreign world, no education, nothing like going in as a grown

Starting point is 00:35:06 adult at 40 with no teeth, know this, like, and you're trying to navigate life. And yet this other fucking monster is walking the streets until sentencing. Where are, where's the balance in that, Honestly, there is zero balance. It's fucking appalling. Sorry, I'm getting going off. it makes me sick it really does now this next case is actually from California okay and I want to talk about it because I have seen it quite a bit in my feed and it has left people just completely shocked back on January 21st at around 4 a.m. in North Hollywood a man named Andrew walked into the LAPD station and he asked if he could get a welfare check on his wife because he said he had been trying to contact her and she wasn't answering now Andrew was a very well-known and respected firefighter in the area. Also a paramedic. He lives in Glendale, so not far from the, it's in the L.A. area near Orange County, you know, it's kind of like a little bubble in this area. So anyway, he was very well respected and in that field. So the police took his request very seriously. But at the time that this request came in, nobody could have imagined what they would find at his

Starting point is 00:36:16 house. Because when the officers arrived, they found his wife, Myra, there, but she had been beaten to death. And the whole thing was almost instantly labeled as a homicide because of how awful this situation looked. After they found her, Andrew was still simultaneously at the police station, and he was taken in for questioning right away. And this was around 4.25 a.m., which they must have come down on him pretty hard during this questioning. And I don't know what Andrew's game plan was in all of this, but during the questioning, he allegedly confessed to killing her. So, with that confession, he was, of course, arrested on suspicion of murder, and then he was held on a $2 million bail. But here's where it starts to unravel and, like, again, why are you going in telling

Starting point is 00:37:00 on yourself if you know they're going to do a welfare check and they're going to find her? Like, it just doesn't make sense. But after all of this happened, it was revealed by Andrew's attorney that what really had gone down is he had read his wife's diary moments before the murder and he believed, based on what she wrote, that she had been cheating on him. Now, Police haven't confirmed what was actually written in that diary or if there was in fact an affair happening, but this is according to the attorney. Now, neighbors were stunned, and they called it a, quote, violent, extreme crime. And almost everybody who knew this couple said that they had never even seen a single conflict between the two of them,

Starting point is 00:37:38 not in their entire 10 years of marriage. However, there was one detail that came out after this story first broke that made everybody pause and be like, oh, well, the saying's true. You never really know what's going on behind closed door. or what's happening behind the curtains of a marriage. Because the alleged weapon that Andrew used to beat his wife was an axe. It was found at the scene as well next to, unfortunately, Myra's beaten and bloody body. And it just shows how violent this moment really was.

Starting point is 00:38:08 So what? He read her diary, which is such an invasion of privacy to begin with, but he read her diary, got pissed off by what he read, and then grabs an axe and goes and attacks her. It's horrifying. And Myra was loved by her friends, her family, her community. She was a third grade teacher. She was a union representative for the United Teachers, L.A. area. Friends and family said that she was a very caring, very dedicated person.

Starting point is 00:38:31 And it's just heartbreaking that this is how it ended. And while Andrew now sits behind bars facing these very serious charges, he also has been placed on administrative leave from the firefighter department, which he has been a firefighter there from since 2008, I believe it was. but it feels like one of those cases that kind of, you know, quote, came out of nowhere, but maybe it didn't. So I don't know. We're left with a lot more questions than answers. So we will keep an eye on this one and see if there are any updates. And if it really was the diary that sparked it, was she having an affair? Not that that would ever justify any type of murder or retaliation. Was there constant friction in their marriage? And it now just, you know, bubbled up and reached a boiling point. I don't know. So, Once again, a stupid criminal, though, who went into the police department and essentially just told on himself. Like, what's your plan there? What is your plan? You think you're going to ask for a welfare check?

Starting point is 00:39:26 They're going to go see her, find her to see spotty, and they're not going to ask you questions. Like, and you're going to get away with it makes no sense. And then you confess as you're, as they're interrogating you? I mean, bad planning, but we love to see it. We love to see criminals who think they're smart and they're dumb. So that's what we've got for headline highlights today. Thank you guys so much for tuning in. reminder earlier this week on our second feed on the 10 to Life feed, which is available on all podcast apps and on YouTube, we did a deep dive into Wade Wilson, the tattooed face killer. There's new interrogation footage that's been released. There's been a new documentary that has come out, new interviews. We actually spoke with the director and the showrunner of the new documentary and

Starting point is 00:40:07 what that experience was like dealing with Wade personally, what he's been up to since being in prison and being sentenced to death. And we just like revisit that case. as a whole. And if you missed Monday's episode over on this feed, the serialistly feed, we went into a case about a young girl, a teen girl who was seen during lunch at school and then vanished after fifth period. Yet a lot of her belongings still in her locker, people who saw her at school with very particular individuals. So we're breaking all of that down. And it's one of those cases where it's going to enrage you. I'm just going to say that right now because I think it's a lot of scummy people covering for other scummy people. So both of those episodes are out now

Starting point is 00:40:49 on both feeds. As a reminder, they go out on the podcast feed before they hit YouTube. They also are completely raw and uncensored on the podcast feed, whereas on YouTube, you know they like to censor certain things and certain legal terms. So go check it out and I will be back on the mic with you first thing Monday morning. But until then, be nice. Don't kill people. Don't join any cults. And I don't know, just be a good human, I guess. All right, bye.

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