SERIALously - 236: Bodies Kept Behind Walls in The House?! | The Chilling Case of Jerri Israel

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

A quaint house in Gulfport, Mississippi seemed to be occupied by a normal family. But when a missing persons report was filed, connected to the address, police made a truly shocking and grisly discovery. What they found would horrify not only neighbors, but the nation…  Join our True Crime Club for access to BTS, Bonus Content, Our Private Group Chat, Giveaways and More! Shop Our True Crime Merch Follow the podcast on: IG, Facebook and TikTok For Business Inquiries: [e-mail] About Annie Today’s Sponsors: Quince: Go to https://quince.com/ae for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order!  Ancient Nutrition: Go to https://ancientnutrition.com/ae for 25% off your first order. Fum: Go to https://tryfum.com and use code SERIAL and get a free gift with your journey pack. Rocket Money: Head to https://rocketmoney.com/ae to cancel your unwanted subscriptions & reach your financial goals faster. Episode Sources: CNN Newspapers.com Law and Crime Palm Beach Post Magnolia State Live Dazed Digital

Drive safe and obey the rules of the road. Vehicle owners who receive a red light or speed camera violation can pay or dispute online at toronto.ca slash aps. Hey, true crime besties. Welcome back to an all new episode of Serialistly, your favorite true crime podcast with me, Annie Elise. Do I sound like a, I don't know, an auctioneer or something? I don't know, but hi, it's me, Annie, your true crime bestie.

I am here to break down another case for you on this early, early morning. And boy, oh boy, okay. My favorite word lately, I don't know if I would say favorite word, but like most used word has been diabolical because I feel like so many of the cases that I've talked about have literally been the true definition of diabolical. Today's case, we need a new word.

It is like unhinged, barbaric, brutal, diabolical, psychotic. Like I need a new word, so I don't own a thesaurus. I guess I own one on the phone. You know what, let's do that really quick. Let's do this like group activity together. Hold on. Siri, what's another word for diabolical? Include devilish, diabolic, fiendish, Satanic, and Mephistophelian. First you have to tell me where you are. Go to privacy settings. We're definitely not doing that.

Mestifacinamate, what'd she say? Okay, so I kind of like Satan. No, I don't like Satanic. Whatever, we're gonna just go with Diabolical because the case that we're talking about today, it has scamming going on the run, drugs, people being imprisoned, bodies being hidden in walls of homes. I mean, it is psychotic and unhinged.

It really is. So I'm going to shut up now and we're going to jump right in. We're continuing to uncover more disturbing more disturbin was discovered in a wood inside the home. The more Israel, the stranger this investigators working to found dead inside a box a Police were first called

Street this morning to investigate a missing person case. It was in a makeshift box and so in order to get the box out we had to cut through the side of the house and in order to extract the the box. This is brand new investigation. There's a lot I can't answer right now. This is one of those stories that sends you down a rabbit hole of twists and turns because as we previously reported This isn't the first time that 66 year old Jerry Lynn Roby So at about 5 45 p.m. On December 22nd 2023 Police officers in Gulfport, Mississippi received a call about a possible missing person and as you can probably guess

Gulfport is right along the Gulf Coast, and it's a town of about 73,000 people. It's best known for being close to some of the most beautiful beaches, and it also has a couple of casinos, a handful of motels, but the residential areas are pretty much like low-key. But basically, Gulfport is like a nice little town. It's definitely not a place where you would expect to hear about a violent crime. I mean, nothing crazy really ever happens there. Usually. Except on that day, which was a Friday, the police were looking for that missing person and they were doing a wellness check at a modest 1,000 square foot home just five miles from the airport. It was on a quiet street near some big trees. It had a chain link fence around it.

There were a couple of cars in the driveway and a little short walkway up to the door. And it was a little run down for sure, I mean, but from the outside, it kind of just looked like a typical single family home. And the police were there to look for John Gaither, a 42-year-old man who hadn't been seen or heard from in about two weeks. Now standing at 6'1, John was a pretty good looking guy. He was fit, he dressed well, he wore his hair in a buzz cut, and John's neighbors said that he and his family seemed pretty normal. Nobody had noticed anything out of the ordinary

recently. He had been acting pretty normal and really just going about his usual routines. So John seemed like he was just this like regular guy. The neighbors would see him around the house, you know, working on cars, said he was a nice enough guy, like nothing very groundbreaking or anything that would like raise the red flag. John was also living with his biological mother, Jeri Israel. And Jeri was 66 years old. She was about 5'6, she had blonde hair that went down to her shoulders, really prominent cheekbones that stood out, and there aren't a lot of photos of Jeri out there, but I will say, she looks kind of intimidating in all the photos that are out there. I could only find maybe three photos of her actually smiling, and she just seems pretty stern and kind of like no-nonsense. But her neighbors all said that she was a nice woman who was always down for

some casual small talk here and there, although I guess for the most part she pretty much kept to herself. But on that December day, the police were there because they were searching the house because of a welfare check that came in from John's stepmother, Karen. Karen had raised John, and she still lived in California where he had grown up. Even though they were in different states now, they usually talked a lot. But beginning around mid-December, about two weeks before this, John had just stopped replying to Karen's phone calls and text messages. So it was pretty weird that he had been radio silent for so long. And I mean, after all, we all have social media, cell phones, and email, so it certainly isn't hard to stay in touch with family, you know, anywhere

in the country or anywhere in the world for that matter. But here John was, apparently giving Karen the silent treatment completely just out of nowhere. Now because Karen lived out of state, she couldn't just go to John's house and see what was up, right, or try to talk to him. So after more than a week of not hearing from John, she just wanted to make sure that everything was okay. So she ended up reporting him as missing to the police. And then that next day, when the detectives didn't have any information or any answers to give her, she also went on Facebook and started asking people for tips and support. She wrote, My stepson John is missing. He is 42, 6'1 or so, usually has a shaved head. Last seen in Gulfport, Mississippi, supposedly on his way to Louisiana to buy a car.

Please share in hopes to find him. Gulfport PD said that they will put him on the national database, but I'm hoping that people on social media will share this post and we will find John. Thank you." Now I will say, it might seem like an overreaction to call in a wellness check on your adult stepson after only 12 days, especially because other family members said that they had heard from John.

He had been, I guess, sending them letters, some of which were written after Karen had said she had stopped hearing from him. So it seemed like it was all kind of just a false alarm, right, maybe just a stepmom getting a little bit too paranoid. Karen even talked to John's biological mother, Jerry, also known as the woman that John was living with. And even though Jerry had admitted that she hadn't heard from John for a while, she certainly didn't think that it was necessary to file a missing persons report. So

really, it seemed like Karen was the only person who was worried about him. And because she didn't have anybody else telling her, you know, that she was right to be so concerned, she kind of just was freaking out by herself independently, just in this state of panic. Eventually, she decided that, you know, it wouldn't hurt for the police to just start asking around, just make sure that John was okay. I mean, the worst that could happen would be to find out that he was fine, that he was just taking some time for himself. Maybe he would feel, sure, a bit annoyed with the cops knocking at his door, a little annoyed with his stepmom for sending in this wellness check,

but it seemed worth the risk. I mean, for Karen's peace of mind, at least. So that's why she requested the wellness check at John's address. And as for that house? Well, as soon as the police showed up, they could tell that it looked a little bit odd. Part of it was boarded up, almost like somebody had cut a giant hole in one of the walls without fixing it up afterward. Then there was a bunch of trash in the yard just scattered everywhere. And I'm not trying to be judgy here, I promise. I mean, keeping a house clean and keeping it nice and tidy, it's definitely hard work. But from photos of the place, it just did not look very welcoming.

And I've got to imagine that as soon as the police showed up to this address and saw how everything looked, they were probably on alert. It just didn't seem like a place where you would want to be looking around, especially after dark. So they knocked on the door. And when they did, his mom, Jeri, answered. But she told the police that her son had taken a whole bunch of cash and just left for Louisiana. Apparently, he was on his way there to buy a new car, which was in line with what everybody else had thought.

She said that's why he needed all of that money. She said that once he bought the car, had it all paid for, and everything was settled, he was gonna come back home safe and sound. I mean, Jerry definitely was not worried at all. But there was one thing that was odd in all of this because the car that John already had was parked at the house. So how was he planning on getting to Louisiana almost a thousand miles away without a car? And yes, it's not illegal for a 42 year old man to not talk to his mom for a couple of weeks. And it's also not illegal for a 42 year old man to not talk to his mom for a couple of weeks. And it's also not illegal

for a 42 year old man to go buy himself a car, even if he goes with a friend or takes a bus there or you know hitchhikes for all I know, whatever. So for the police this wasn't even suspicious, not at all. So they didn't take the report very seriously. That being said though, they did decide to look at his financial records, see if they could track him down and confirm that he was at the very least okay. You know, alive and well and fine. Except when they did that, they weren't able to track John at all after December 10th. Because that's when all of his cell phone activity and his credit card activity just stopped.

There were no signs that he had ever even made it to Louisiana, and certainly no indication, other than the cash that he had left with, that he had bought a car. So that was a little strange. And even though the police still weren't treating his disappearance as this urgent thing, the whole situation was weird enough that they filed a report and added John to the Registry of Missing People, just like they promised his stepmom that they would. But then they left it alone for a little while. They probably figured that this whole situation would just iron itself out and John would come, you know, walking back up the driveway within a couple of days. But five days later on December 27th, it was still radio silence on John's end. So that was the day that the police

went back to John's house for a follow-up visit. And when they did, they noticed something odd. Jerry's story of what happened to her son in the last few days since he had gone missing seemed to have changed. Now, unfortunately, the police haven't publicly given any details on exactly how her story changed. You know, what details were inconsistent, nothing like that. All I know for sure is that Jerry was acting untrustworthy. She was throwing up all kinds of red flags. The police also described her in one of their reports as quote, uncooperative. And again, I wish I knew the full details and what specific things she was doing instead of, you know, cooperating, but the full story hasn't been made public yet.

But whatever Jerry was doing, it was definitely making the police kind of give her a little bit of like side eye, kind of just like thinking she's not being totally honest with them. Now because they lived together, Jerry was probably the last known person to have seen John, right? So she was the only lead that the cops really had to work with. But without probable cause and with no warrant, there wasn't really much they could do. They took note of Jerry's changing stories and did what they could in that regard, but then they headed back to the station to try to come up with something that might actually get them into that house so they could possibly search or find or see something that would give them some sort of indication about what happened to John. And guys, when they got back to the station and started doing some digging, they found plenty.

Jerry had a very lengthy rap sheet. And I'm gonna just put a pin in that for now. Don't worry, I will definitely come back and talk all about her history, all the charges that she has faced in her past, all of that. All you really need to know at this point in the story is that Jerry's history was colorful, to say the least, and colorful enough that the police were willing to say, okay yeah, we have good cause to do more

of a search and really try to find John right now. So just shy of a month later, on January 18, 2024, at about 10am, some detectives and crime scene techs came back to the house, this time with a warrant. Jerry's neighbors were definitely shocked to see a swarm of cops outside, because before this time, Jerry and John had seemed like a pretty normal mother and son. You know, they would be outside, they would do yard work together, they would occasionally chat with the neighbors. There was definitely nothing that had given anyone any reason to think that either of

these two people would be related to this massive police search. So the detectives went inside the house. And right away, Jerry started freaking out, just acting like something terrible was happening. Which, I have to say, that was pretty suspicious on her part, right? I mean, even more suspicious than all the other ridiculous stuff that she had been doing up until this point. But the detectives hadn't even found anything yet, yet she was starting to panic and act a little bit frantic. So far, her place had looked like any ordinary house would.

But Jerry's behavior, it was setting up all kinds of red flags. Then, right away, while the search was actually happening, still going on, she got her hands on a pill bottle. Then she swallowed a handful, a fistful of pills in an attempt to take her own life. Now the good news is that the detectives realized what was going on and they got her to a hospital. She recovered. But this was one more thing in like the already bizarre and erratic behavior to be like, uh, what does this chick have to hide? Like what is going on here?

So she didn't get out of this search the easy way, not at all. She didn't escape from this investigation by dying, although she clearly wanted to do that. And even with her attempt, the police didn't call off their search of the house, not at all. And guys, what they found inside, it was insane.

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but it was actually made specifically to hide something behind it. Now that, in and of itself, is definitely suspicious, right? It wasn't like an actual crafted panic room. It was a faulty wall, like there was something hidden. There's no reason that you would literally need to build a secret hiding place in your own house if you weren't, you know, well, hiding something, right? So the police pulled the wall back, and when they did, they found a mattress behind it. And this mattress, it was turned upright, like it was also almost like acting like a door, like it was also hiding something. So they of course knew they needed to move this mattress, so they tipped over the mattress, and when they did, they found a sealed closet.

It was almost like Russian dolls, you know, the kind where it's like you open it and it goes to a smaller doll than another one and another one, almost like every layer added to another layer. Then finally behind the false wall, the mattress inside the sealed closet covered in clothing and trash, they found a giant wooden box, a wooden box that was about the size of say a person. Now reports A wooden box that was about the size of, say, a person?

Now, reports describe this box as everything from a military-style locker container to just a plain old big box. So I have no idea what a locker container is or what it looks like. I know the Pelican cases, but that's about it. So I have no idea what makes it military-style or military grade. I'm thinking maybe like a big trunk that goes at the foot of a bed or something like that. But we do know for sure that it was wooden and that it was homemade. So basically it was a big wooden chest. And sure enough, inside that box when they opened it,

the police found John's decomposing body. Tonight, investigators working to identify a person found dead inside a box at a Gulfport home. Police were first called to 16th Avenue and 22nd Street this morning to investigate a missing person case. Detectives discovered the body in a six-foot-long container described as a military wall locker, but removing the large container meant taking out part of a wall which took several hours.

It was in a makeshift box and so in order to get the box out we had to cut through the side of the house and in order to extract the the box. This is brand new investigation. There's a lot I can't answer right now. We're sending the body off to the crime lab. Once we get the cause of death and the identification of the body, we'll have more. Police are questioning one person about this death, but no arrests have been made. Now this gets even creepier because as they went further into the house, the police found several of these homemade wooden cadaver style type boxes. They were all parked in the garage. So what was Jerry up to?

What kind of person just keeps what are essentially a bunch of homemade coffins on hand, right? So either way, the police were definitely kind of like irked a little bit. They were feeling a little suspicious. So as soon as Jerry recovered from her suicide attempt, they arrested her. Now, reports vary on this part because some say a man that she was living with, either her husband or boyfriend, was inside the house and that he was arrested too. But some different reports say that he wasn't there at the time of the search, so it's a little bit unclear. But either way, he was eventually brought into the station.

And during the questioning, this man said that he helped build the closet and the false wall. I've also read that he even helped build those homemade wooden coffins, all of those wooden boxes. However, with all of that and even with that admission, he said he had absolutely no idea what Jerry was going to use these wooden boxes for. Now obviously, this was a very unusual situation. But me, personally, I don't know. If somebody asked me to help build this secret compartment in the walls of our house and then had me build these coffin sized wooden boxes, I'd probably start getting a little bit suspicious. If my husband was like, hey babe, can you help me make this faulty wall and stack a

mattress here? And hey, can you make the wooden box for me that's six feet by two feet? Like, I'm not going to do anything with that. I'd be like, huh? Come again? What do you mean? I mean, that's just me. But like, the red flags would for sure be going up.

Now, I do know that after all of this, Jerry was being held without bond because the police thought that she was a flight risk. And the reason why they thought that was because for decades before her son was even found dead inside her house, Jerry had been racking up a long rap sheet, the one that I mentioned earlier. And I hinted at this before, but this criminal history was the main thing that helped the police get the warrant to search her house in the first place. So now I want to go over everything with you because there's a lot, we are not even at the peak of this psychotic unhinged story and case. So buckle up because it is a crazy ride.

Now in order to understand who Jerry was, we're going to go back to the 90s, you know, the days of dial-up, the days of AOL, you know, the skinny little tiny tiny micro eyebrows and power suits, all of these things, and we're going way, way back. So Jerry's first husband passed away in 1991 when her son John was just nine years old. Officially, the death was ruled a suicide. Jerry told the police that he had shot at her

and then he shot himself. But when he died, Jerry collected more than $250,000 in life insurance, which is a lot of money today because think about it, that was back in the 90s, so it was worth even more back then, before all the inflation that we've had in the past 33 years. So let's just say, Jerry walked away from her husband's death with a nice chunk of change. And a lot of people who knew her thought that this was no accident, not at all. There was nothing physical to connect her to it, I mean no hard evidence suggesting that her husband's death was anything other than what she said it was, a suicide.

But the people who knew Jerry, like really knew her, said that they thought that she might have had something to do with it. Especially since she was there at the time of the shooting. I mean, the details, they just felt off. There were also rumors that Jerry might have actually been the one to have killed her husband or at least played a role in his death. But again, these were just rumors. There was nothing concrete.

There was no proof. Either way, I can only imagine how hard this was on Jerry's son, John. It's hard enough to lose a father that young, and even if the official story was right and it was a suicide, that's a lot for a nine-year-old to deal with and process. So you add in all of these rumors that his mom might have actually been the one who did this and who was responsible and that she committed a murder? I can't even imagine how it would feel to grow up with people saying that about your family, and more than that, about your one and only living parent.

Now, John had at least two half-siblings, but other than that his childhood is a little bit of a mystery. My best guess is that he had a fairly normal life, I mean other than the weirdness around his dad's death, but his childhood was the sort that didn't make a lot of headlines. And maybe it's overall a good thing that there aren't a whole lot of publicly known details available and information about it. Kind of like a no news is good news situation. I don't know. That's just my thought. Now the reason he probably did have a relatively quiet and normal childhood was probably because Jerry wasn't really a part of his life. Around 1986 when John was just four years old, she had told John's

father basically that he was going to be a single parent going forward. And then she basically just like, peaced out, just left, and was barely in touch with John at all from that time on. Which yes, sounds very sad, but it was probably in hindsight a good thing. Because instead of parenting, Jerry was using drugs, she was getting into legal trouble, she was using a lot of different aliases to stay away from the police, and she was also making money working as a part-time phone sex line operator. Let's get right to the point. I'm the one you want, and I'm willing to talk.

Right now, just you and me. Can you handle that? Good. There's the number. Now you call me. Go on, pick it up, and call. Live one-on-one, adults 18 and older only. Now, you know, back in the days before the internet, it wasn't so easy to find adult videos or graphic content or anything like that. So instead, people would call these phone numbers, they would pay these really expensive fees, and in turn, they would get to talk dirty with women who had these really sexy voices. And Jerry owned one of those services, meaning she was getting a cut of

every single call that everybody made. One of my favorite places to share a fantasy is on the phone. With someone I don't even know. Sounds like fun, doesn't it? I'd like to share my most intimate secrets with you. Make your fantasies come true. Call right now." And it might all seem ridiculous now, but there was a lot of money in this industry. I mean, they say that sex sells for a reason, right? And Jerry was making enough cash that eventually in 1992, she could quit doing the sex line work entirely and move to Florida. And specifically, she went to the beach town of Boca Raton. Now, Boca is about an hour south of Miami, and Miami, as we know, is definitely known for its

parties. But Boca is a very quiet, very well-manicured, very wealthy town. I mean, at least it usually is. But at around 1 p.m. on July 13, 1993, the Boca Raton police got a phone call about an angry woman on the side of the road. When the police showed up to the scene, they found Jerry, who was going by the name Jerry Gaither at the time, and she was walking along the highway just carrying a.38 caliber semi-automatic handgun. She was rambling, she was pacing, she seemed pretty volatile. And the cops obviously didn't want to approach her, I mean she had a weapon and she definitely didn't seem like she was in the right mental state. So a standoff began. Then it lasted for almost two and a half hours with Jerry kind of just like waving this gun around,

threatening to take her own life, acting erratically. Then finally the police approached her and one of the officers managed to pin her to the ground. And once she was down on the ground and not a threat, Jerry handed over to the cops a handwritten note. Now this note read, I hope I don't see her wherever I go, perhaps nowhere, maybe heaven. written note. Now this note read, to get the nerve to do it. Sickening. Tell him not my son. Christina Racy is the girl." And then the note was signed,

Love, Jerry. Now, if you hear all of that and think, okay, I have no idea what Jerry was talking about. What was she going on and on about? You are not alone. Because the police basically read this note and they kind of went like, what the fuck? Like, what is this? And it was going to take a lot more research to actually figure out who those people were, what Jerry was trying to say, and what this note alluded to. But because of everything else going on, they arrested Jerry on the charge of carrying a concealed weapon, which honestly she wasn't even concealing anything. She had that gun

right out there in the open, but whatever. I mean, I guess they had to hold her on something while they tried to figure out what was going on. And that charge was as good as any other. I mean, at least it would hold her until they figured out what this note meant and what that other possible shooting was. And when the police were investigating, one particular line in that note was super important. The one where Jerry said, Christina Racy is the girl. See, the name Christina Racy, it was familiar to the police officers. Christina had been reported missing just one day earlier, on Monday, July 12th. She usually talked to her mom on the phone every single day, but her mom hadn't heard from her for a while, and because of that, the mother was worried enough that she reached

out to the police. So the police knew Christina was missing, and now they had this letter from Jerry where she talked about Christina by name, also saying that there was a shooting and that she had to, quote, you know, dispose of something. So it wasn't hard to put two and two together. It looked like Jerry and this boyfriend that she had mentioned, Alan, might have killed Christina and disposed of her body. Except, they didn't do a very good job at it. Because Christina was found the very same day that the police arrested Jerry. Her body had been dumped on the side of the road, and it was pretty badly decomposed.

I mean, decomposed enough that the police had to identify her using her fingerprints. But she had been shot to death. Which again, pretty closely matched what that weird note that she passed to the officer said. Jerry told the police that she had left Christina's body on the side of the road several days after she had been killed, but she blamed her boyfriend, Sela Lavi, for killing Christina. She claimed that Christina was her drug dealer and that she and her boyfriend were buying painkillers from Christina. According to Jerry, her boyfriend had gotten upset when Christina charged them more than what she usually did. In fact, he was so upset and upset enough that he shot her, according to Jerry.

Then, she said that he left the body in their garage and he forced Jerry to dispose of it using a big rental truck. Then, he threatened to kill her son John if she didn't cooperate. So a few hours after Jerry gave this statement, the police found her boyfriend and they charged him with murder. Just on the strength of, you know, what Jerry had said alone. It seemed like it was adding up. And seriously, the only evidence that they even really had against him was Jerry's testimony. And clearly, you know, if you follow true crime, you can't nail someone with a murder charge based on the accusations coming from somebody who's clearly been acting erratic and seems to maybe have some mental stability issues. And because of that, it only took them two weeks of investigation before they ended up dropping

all the charges against him. It turns out this poor guy had just gotten back from vacation when the news of Christina's death broke out. He found out about it when the rest of the world did. And that rental truck, he had just rented it to move a piano. So Jerry was the one who had killed this woman herself, and her boyfriend had no clue that she was pointing the finger at him the entire time until the police came and started asking him questions. Now luckily for him, he had that rock solid alibi. Jerry though? Not so much. She couldn't explain where she was at the

time of Christina's murder. She had already admitted to helping dispose of the body, and she had also made those false accusations against her boyfriend, so it was not looking good for her at all. And if she was found guilty of killing Christina, she could get the death penalty. So before her trial got going, Jerry hired a private investigator named Robert Hamilton so that he could help her get off with a lighter sentence. Except instead of keeping it professional, you know, client investigator and all of that

jazz, Jerry and Robert started having an affair. Which meant that Robert, of course, couldn't be fair or unbiased when he was investigating her case, and it was bad enough that Jerry's lawyer ended up firing Robert. Well in turn, Robert must have wanted to retaliate or do something because Robert turned around and testified against Jerry during her bond hearing. And you might be thinking, okay, maybe he was just pissed about losing his job, but actually he had a very good reason to side with the prosecution. He took the stand and he said that while they were sleeping together,

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As though that's some sexy small talk, but I don't know. I mean, imagine laying in bed with someone that you really like and they just stare you down and announce that they've killed somebody. That is so chilling. Up until that point, Robert had been totally convinced of her innocence too. I mean, you wouldn't have an affair with somebody you thought was a killer, right? Let alone join their defense team. But then that comment, it totally creeped him out and he wanted to get as far away from

this whole thing as he possibly could. Apparently, Jerry had also been showering Robert with expensive gifts. I mean, we're talking bougie champagne, a 1984 Jaguar car, all of these like extravagant gifts all to keep him from talking. But I guess he wasn't swayed by the nice booze and the shiny set of wheels because he spilled all the beans in court. He even told the judge that Jerry was too dangerous to be released on bail. So I don't know what the moral of that little dilemma and story is.

It's probably never have an affair with your private investigator or maybe it's don't kill someone or probably both. I don't know. But with all of this evidence against her, not to mention Robert's testimony, Jerry was charged with first degree murder and her bail was set at $100,000, which yes, that is a lot of money, but not if you only have to post 10% of it. And apparently, Jerry managed to find some people

who would pay the bond. So she got to get out and go free. She was supposed to appear in court again in November of 1994, but she didn't show. She just skipped town altogether. And by her skipping town, this kicked off a manhunt that lasted nearly two years. It had three bondsmen, six bounty hunters, and every law enforcement agency imaginable. They were pulling out all the stops to find Jerry.

As it turned out, Jerry was actually really good at avoiding attention and not getting caught. While she was on the run, she had at least five different aliases, and she knew how to cover her tracks. She actually went on the run right after her bond was posted. I mean, right away. She immediately hightailed it out of Florida. She went 750 miles north of Boca, right to North Carolina, where her boyfriend at the time, Billy Canada, lived. And yes, this was a separate boyfriend from the one she had accused of murder. Which get used to it because this woman had a lot of boyfriends, guys. So before her scheduled trial date, Jerry rented a car in Billy's name and she drove

back to Boca, basically kind of telling her boyfriend like, hey, thanks for helping me go on the run, I'm leaving now, I'm out, like taking your car. I mean, seriously. she just ditched him. And she got back home and immediately struck up a relationship with somebody new, according to some other reports. Now, this person was a 78 year old man who she was definitely living with as a roommate,

but according to some speculation, she was also dating him. His name was Samuel David. And I don't wanna speculate on the nature of anyone else's, you know, romantic relationships, but let's just say there's evidence that Jerry was, at the very least, not the best girlfriend. And at the worst, a total complete con artist. That is, besides the fact that she was apparently dating two or three guys all at once. She had a history of seeing guys for just as long as they were willing to give her money or gifts or favors. Then, as soon as the cash dried up or the favors

ran dry, she was out. Like, for example, not only Samuel now giving her money and free stuff, but she also never even returned that rental car that she had gotten in Billy's name, and he had to end up reporting it as stolen. So she was only a few days into this manhunt, and already Jerry was just like leaving behind this trail of destruction. Her MO seemed to be using and then losing anyone who came into contact with her, anyone who stumbled on her path. So Jerry's next court date rolled around, and sure enough, she was nowhere to be found. The next day, a report came in that she had been seen

in the Fort Lauderdale area with a friend, and this was especially concerning because that friend had actually written Jerry a letter a while back and it talked about them taking a trip to Europe. So of course, the investigators were now asking themselves if this was all part of the plan, if she was planning on fleeing to Europe with this friend. But the fact of the matter was Jerry hadn't gone anywhere. She was still in

Boca, still living with Samuel in his house. It's not clear whether or not Samuel knew that she was this wanted criminal, but I gotta say, I mean, he was 78 years old, so he may have just been a little like tuned out and kind of happy to have this roommate slash possible much younger girlfriend for company. I don't know. But whatever their relationship was, not long after he and Jerry got together, Samuel woke up to find $12,000 in cash, a nice fistful of nice jewelry, and a bunch of guns missing. And you know what else was missing?

Jerry. She was nowhere to be seen. Then, the previous boyfriend, Billy, got a letter from Jerry. It was postmarked for November 9thth and it had been sent from a small town in Florida and it read, I realistically fully expect to be brought back or die. Because of it all, I've turned into a person I do not like. I'm using men, just like they've always used me. Now this was not the only letter that Jerry had ever sent Billy, although it might have been the strangest one.

But Billy actually had a whole big box full of notes that he had saved from her, which I don't know if that's because he truly just cared about her so much and he was like the romantic type, or if maybe he saved them because he wanted to have them for protection of some sort, I don't really know. But now, whatever the reason was, he wasn't thinking in terms of, you know, keeping these sweet, loving letters from his girlfriend. But instead, he thought that there might be a clue in there, some hint that Jerry might have dropped about where she was headed next. So he got out that box, he opened up the envelopes that were inside, and he discovered that every single letter that he had saved from her had been replaced with a blank piece of paper. And I mean, think on that for a second. Before Jerry rented a car in Billy's name and then just

took off, she actually spent time going through this box of Billy's, going through these letters she had written him, pulling out every single one, and then putting a blank one back in the same place. Which kind of seems crazy to me because why would somebody do that instead of just destroying the entire box and emptying it? Just like light them all on fire, right? I mean, it just feels like a very extreme length to go to. Really insane to me. So from there, the police tried to track her

by her credit card charges. And I mean, she was still using the card that was in her name, so she wasn't exactly covering her tracks very well, and it turned out that she was hopping from one swanky upscale hotel to another upscale swanky hotel. And around November 18th, she was seen at a very upscale, expensive place in Palm Beach, and when she was there, she was running up quite the tab. She was also cashing checks the entire time.

So all to say, she might have been a fugitive on the run, but she definitely was not hurting for money. And you might be thinking, well, it sounds like Jerry wasn't doing much to cover her tracks. She doesn't really seem very nervous. I mean, she was pretty openly traveling around. She was using her real name. She was using her credit card, all of those things.

Well, for a few months after all of this, she finally did lay low and the police didn't get any tips. In fact, it took until February 6th, 1995 for them to get a tip. And what a tip it was. Jerry was shopping at a department store, and she had left her driver's license there. But luckily for Jerry, for some reason, it doesn't look like the cops ever went to that department store to retrieve her license. They didn't even really go there to investigate it further. It seems to me like this could have been, you know, a great opportunity if they had hidden out

at the store, waited for Jerry to come back to get her ID. They could have gotten her. They could have arrested her. But for whatever reason, when Jerry came back to the store a month later, she got her license back without any trouble whatsoever. Then a couple of days after that, Jerry ended up being kicked out of a hotel in Fort Lauderdale for drug use. But again, somehow, and I don't know how it's possible, but the cops didn't come after her.

I mean, there were reports just rolling in, rolling in. People were seeing this woman all over Florida, but the tips were always just somehow too little too late. And a year went by of Jerry living as this free woman and always just staying a step ahead of the police. Not because she was some kind of criminal mastermind, but because they just kept dropping the ball. They weren't following up on reports or just showing up a little bit too late to catch

her. Now, of course, this was big news and it seemed like everyone was getting in on the hunt for Jerry. I mean, reporters were tracking her every move, bounty hunters got involved, and her family even gave statements to the press. Which speaking of, let's just say Jerry's own relatives weren't exactly standing up for her. They told reporters that she was, quote, slick and shrewd and shady.

And her brother, John King, told a local paper that his sister was great at charming people all to get her way. He said, quote, she likes to make money, and she knows how to. But she couldn't stay on the run forever. Even if, by the time the police finally tracked her down, things got to be even weirder and more violent. It took until June of 1995, but finally, some police in central Florida spotted a Ford Escort rental car that had fake license plates on it.

They pulled it over, and when they asked the driver for their ID, she didn't have a driver's license, just a receipt for one that she didn't have with her. She also had a birth certificate with her, which was weird, but it was under the name Carol Ann Navarro. So the officers had this Carol person step out of the car, and when they searched it, they saw a 68-page mail order catalog for fake IDs. Which to me is almost funny. I mean, is there anything more incriminating to keep in your car than a literal catalog

for fake IDs? Seems super suspicious, right? And sure enough, it turns out that this Carol Ann Navarro person was in fact Jerry. Finally, she had been caught. Not that she was going to go away quietly. Not at all. Jerry told the police that she was feeling sick, so because of that they took her to the nearest hospital where there she downed a bottle of cleaning supplies in an attempt to take her own life, just like she eventually would swallow a bunch of pills during that search of her house in

2023. Of course, though, as we know, she survived, and she finally had to go to trial and face her charges. She pled guilty to the second-degree murder of Christina Racy. And finally, the story also came out about why she did it and how. Jerry had shot Christina to death at her house in Boca, which she shared with her boyfriend, you'll remember, the guy that she initially tried to frame for this murder. And at first, Jerry said that her boyfriend killed Christina because she was their regular drug dealer and she had overcharged them for some pills that they wanted to buy. And that part was half true.

We know that the boyfriend didn't shoot Christina, Jerry did. But as near as I can tell, after looking at all the evidence, she was being honest about the motive. She apparently really did kill Christina because she thought that she was being overcharged for the painkillers that she wanted to buy. And not that there's ever a good reason to commit murder, I mean certainly not, but it's shocking to me that the crime was so brutal given how impersonal the reason was. Jerry could have just found somebody else to sell her drugs for cheaper. Why she had to kill her? I don't know. But instead, she shot Christina. Then, she stuffed the body into the back of a rental truck and drove around with it in the

trunk for a few days, finally dumping the body on the side of the road. I mean, literally, for several days, Christina was decomposing in Jerry's trunk while Jerry was trying to figure out what to do with her remains. And I'll never understand that because there have been several cases we've covered where people have just driven around

with the dead body in their car for days, some even, as disgusting as it is, months on end. And while I get maybe you're panicking and you're trying to figure out how to cover it up, what if you get pulled over? What about the odor? What about the rotting corpse in your car that you're literally just like living with day to day?

I will never understand it. So Jerry was eventually sentenced to 17 years in prison. But then two pretty surprising things happened, which took this story in a total different direction. It is still technically the start of a new year, and that also means that it is the perfect time to get organized, to set goals, and to prioritize what really matters, especially for me when it comes to my financial wellbeing. And thanks to Rocket Money, my goals feel more achievable than ever.

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From 2003 until 2016, she just kind of went under the radar. And during that time, from what I can tell, she actually really focused on fixing things with her family. Now remember, she still had a son, John. He was 12 or 13 years old around that time that she had skipped town, but it's hard to say how he felt about all of that. He didn't have much of a relationship with his mom by this point anyway,

and the people who were close to Jerry said that she did though still love and care about him, but she and John just weren't really in touch. And I haven't been able to verify this, and you know what I always say, do your own research and double check everything, but some people who said that they were close to the family also said that when John was a young adult in his early 20s or so, he moved to Florida, as in the same state where Jerry was living before she got caught, and also where she kept living after she finished her sentence. So I don't know if he came

to Florida specifically to find her and reconcile with her, or if maybe it was, I don't know, more of a coincidence, but I do know that at some point afterward, Jerry and John moved into the same house in Mississippi together. So clearly by that point, they did have some kind of relationship. But then she got tangled up with the law again, this time for selling drugs. And I couldn't find anything on this case other than the fact that she served 18 months in prison for it and then was later released in 2017. But that brings us all the way back to January of 2024, with police still searching for her son, John, and then finding his body in the house that Jerry shared with either her husband or her boyfriend or whoever that was,

whatever that relationship was. We're continuing to uncover more disturbing details about the Gulfport woman who is charged with the murder of her own son, whose body was discovered in a wooden box hidden inside the home. Noah Noble has been digging into the story and talking with neighbors.

He joins us in the newsroom with the latest details on his findings. The more I look into Jerrilyn Israel, the stranger this all becomes. Not only do Gulfport police say that she's charged with the murder of her son and hit his body and then attempted suicide, she did a shockingly similar crime in the mid-90s. Thursday, detectives raided her home and found the body of her son, John Alan Gaither, stuffed in a wooden box. Officers had to knock down a wall

to get the box out of the home. And while all that was going on, police say Israel apparently tried killing herself, swallowed a bunch of pills, and was rushed to the hospital. She was treated and then taken to Harrison County Jail on a first- degree murder charge. I knocked on the doors of Israel's neighbors who told me that she seemed like a nice person,

casually made small talk and generally kept to herself. And they also said that her son, John Allen Gaither, was just as pleasant, seemed to be some kind of mechanic always working on cars at the home. And that's why neighbors were shocked to see police pull out his body inside a box in at the home. And that's why neighbors were shocked to see police pull out his body inside a box in Israel's home. And get this, she did a similar crime in the mid-90s

when police found a body in the trunk of her car. And then while trying to arrest her, she threatened to shoot herself. According to news reports, back in July, 1993 in Florida, she shot her drug dealer and hid the body in the trunk of her car. Months later, in December, 1993, she had to stand off with police when they found the body

and threatened to shoot herself. But she was arrested, charged with murder, then posted bond and according to Florida news reports, skipped town. In July, 1995, she was pulled over by a Florida state trooper. And before an arrest could be made, she claimed to be sick,

was rushed to the hospital, where she tried drinking a bottle of scrub solution. But later that year, she was convicted of second degree murder, sentenced to 17 years in prison, but Florida prison records show she was released in August 2003. And through our search, we found that Jerry Lynn has had a number of aliases through the years,

with the last names Bogart, Gaither, Israel, and Roby. So what's next? Well, her case is going before a grand jury in February. Depending on the outcome, the murder trial could start in the following months. And you know what I think the creepiest part in all of this was? Well, the creepiest part aside from finding a dead body rotting behind a false wall. Remember how John's family members had been receiving letters from John after the day when his stepmom said that he went missing? It turns out that Jerry had been writing and sending his family those letters

so that they wouldn't get suspicious. She was posing as her son, the son that she killed. Which, what is it with this woman and her letters? I don't get it. I mean, from the letter she wrote to the police in that handwritten note back in 1993, to the letters that she replaced with blank paper at her boyfriend's house, all the way to the letters she wrote up leading to that manhunt. I mean, it just kind of seems to be part of her MO for whatever reason. And it's disturbing to think about, because not only had she murdered her own son, but she had it within her to write letters in his voice, his tone, his style after he was dead. Most parents probably couldn't bear reading or hearing words of their lost child for

any period of time after they were gone. But Jerry's first priority wasn't mourning, it was making sure that nobody caught on to her scheme. So Jerry was charged with first degree murder and right now she's currently waiting for her trial and she's still sitting in jail in the meantime, which don't worry, she's not out, thank goodness she can't flee. But to get ready for their day in court,

the police have been doing extra investigation to try and figure out what actually happened, how Jerry ended up allegedly taking the life of her own son. His autopsy showed that he died of a single gunshot wound, which is in line with her past murder, right? ...woman accused of murdering her son and hiding his body in a box, making her first court appearance today.

Thank you for joining us. I'm Hugh Keaton. Well, this affidavit submitted to the court and an autopsy conducted by the coroner revealing more details of this disturbing crime. Noah Noble is closely following this story and joins us now from the newsroom to break it all down. This is one of those stories that sends you down a rabbit hole of twists and turns because as we previously reported, this isn't the first time that 66 year old Jerry Lynn Roby has been accused of murder, hiding the body and then attempting suicide. More about that in just a minute. But let's talk about the latest developments. Roby had her initial appearance in court and was denied bond. The affidavit submitted by Gulfport Detectives alleges she killed her son, 42 year old John Allen Gaither, with the coroner's office confirming he died from a single gunshot wound around the 10th of December. That's 12 days before police say he was reported missing by out-of-state relatives.

And during the investigation, his mom, who was originally identified as Jeri Lynn Israel-Robie, gave conflicting statements. And on January 18th, a search warrant of her home at the corner of 16th and 22nd revealed a large box behind a false wall. Inside was Roby's dead son. And while all that was going on, police say that Roby tried taking a large number of pills,

apparently trying to kill herself, but she was treated at a hospital and then taken to jail. Harrison County coroner Brian Switzer said that Gaither's body was well preserved probably because of the cold weather and that he was around six foot one hundred and eighty pounds and that the box he was found in was about six feet by three feet. But honestly, it's hard to even guess or make a theory about Jerry's motive. The investigators haven't shared any information and even social media and Reddit, like, you know, all the usual places where you would see, like, unexpected hot

takes, deep theories, little clues, I mean, they're all pretty quiet. The murder is just so bizarre, and quite honestly baffling. It's so impossible to explain that most people aren't even trying to explain it. Now, if I had to take a guess, just this is my personal opinion, again, do your own research, come to your own conclusions, full disclosure, this is just my guess, and it could be wrong. But I think that Jerry killed John over money. This is just a theory,

and there's no other speculation online to back this up, but just roll with me on it. That's kind of been her MO from the beginning. All of her other crimes were surrounding money. It was all about money. She killed Christina because she didn't want to pay for the drugs. She scammed all of the boyfriends for all that they were worth. It was just like money was a common thread.

And one detail that really stands out to me, again just speculating here but bear with me, is the story that she told the police when they first came over for that welfare check. She told them that John had left town with a bunch of cash to go buy a new car, and it was such a specific story that she made a point of saying that he took cash with him. So if someone were to go through John's personal effects, would they find that money missing? Would they find it there? Did Jerry tell that specific cover story to try and explain away where all of John's money went, if he did in fact have a large lump sum of cash on him? Did she kill him to rob him or even maybe rob him first and when he caught her things escalated to a murder?

I mean, that fits the evidence the best to my mind, I don't know. But that said, I also don't have all of the evidence. The investigation is still ongoing. And maybe we'll find something new later on that makes all of this speculation wrong. I don't know, do your own research. But the other big question to my mind is, what's with all of those other wooden boxes? The police still haven't even addressed this. They haven't said if they know what Jerry was planning to use them all for, or what

the plan was. I mean, I don't think it's too hard to guess and speculate. Coffins, right? But Reddit is full of people saying that they're pretty sure that Jerry was planning to kill more people besides John. Which makes sense, right? It's in line. You make a ton of body-sized boxes, you end up putting a body in one of them. I mean, clearly the rest of them are for more bodies, right? So was Jerry a budding serial killer hoping to rack up more murders? Or was there some other kind of explanation? Maybe she thought that John's body would be harder to find

if she had a house full of identical boxes that were empty. I don't know, maybe like the police would open a few of them, find nothing, then stop searching before they made it to the one that actually had her son in it. Clearly I'm just guessing here because we don't know and we probably won't know until this case goes to trial and the police are willing to share everything they know, but it is a theory. Other than that, no other arrests have been made, but police still do have their suspicions about that possible boyfriend, possible husband guy who was

living with her, the one who, you know, helped her make that room full of coffin-style boxes. Now, Jerry may not have raised her son, but it's obviously still so disturbing what she allegedly did to him. And I mean, it's crazy that she had been caught for another incredibly brutal murder a few decades ago, and now she was just kind of roaming free and was let out early.

John's whole life sounds like it must have been pretty rough while he was still alive. I mean, his mom was absent for most of the time, and it also looks like she wasn't exactly heavily involved even when she was physically there for him living with him. And even after they reunited when John was older, I can't even imagine what it would be like knowing that your mom, who you were living with, had killed someone. Maybe if Jerry had stayed in prison after that first murder, John would still be alive today. We may never know what her motive was in either one of those cases, but of course, there's pretty much no explanation that would ever make it even close to okay.

I think we can all agree on that. John's death may have been horrific, but I can only hope that his memory lives on with the family that he was close to. And thank goodness for his angel stepmom Karen, who knew something was wrong and that it needed to be investigated further. Because had she just blown it off like the rest of his family just not taking it seriously, how long would his body have been inside that wall? Could Sherry have fled? Would they ever be able to find her? Would they have ever found him? I mean, there's a lot of questions. So I think for me, at least, it's just kind of one more reminder. Always trust your gut, no matter what. It is so important. All right, guys, that's it for today's case. Thank you so much for tuning in with me to

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