SERIALously - 406: Mackenzie’s Dad is SPIRALING, 2nd DNA Sample Found in Anna Kepner & Serial Killer in Mexico?

Episode Date: June 4, 2026

This week on Headline Highlights: Rebecca Haro pleaded guilty in the death of her 7-month-old son Emmanuel and was sentenced to more than 12 years in prison, though his remains have never been found. Nearly a year after Melissa Casias disappeared, hikers found her remains in a remote area of Carson National Forest. New court filings reveal disturbing new evidence in the cruise ship murder of 18-year-old Anna Kepner, as prosecutors build their case against her stepbrother, Timothy Hudson. Three women were found dead in Puerto Vallarta in two weeks, sparking serial killer rumors. And new interviews, phone calls, and legal filings in the Mackenzie Shirilla case have reignited debate over her conviction….If you’re new here, don’t forget to follow the show for weekly deep dives into the darkest true crime cases! To watch the video version of this episode, head over to youtube.com/@annieelise. ..🔎Join Our True Crime Club & Get Exclusive Content & Perks..🎧 Need More to Binge? Listen to both of my weekly true crime series 10 to Life & Serialously with Annie Elise wherever you get your podcasts on the Annie Elise Channel!🍎 Apple Podcasts | Where you can also unlock access to 100+ and growing extra exclusive deep dives.💚 Spotify🔴 YouTube🎙️ All Other Platforms.📸 Follow Annie on Socials Instagram: @_annieeliseTikTok: @_annieeliseSubstack: @annieeliseFacebook: @10toLife.⭐SponsorsFactor: Head to http://factormeals.com/ae50off and use code ae50off to get 50% off and free daily greens per box.BetterHelp: Sign up and get 10% off at http://BetterHelp.com/AE..👗 Shop Annie’s Must-Haves! ShopMY: bit.ly/AnnieElise_ShopMy Amazon: bit.ly/AnnieElise_Amazon.🫵🏻 Get Involved or Recommend a CaseAbout Annie: www.annieelise.comFor Business Inquiries: [e-mail].📚 Episode Sources AP News | Facebook | Mexico News Daily | NBC | News 6 | New York Post | People | Riverside County District Attorney’s Office | TMZ | True Crime This Week••••••••••••••••••🚨Disclaimers1️⃣ Some links may be affiliate links, they do not cost you anything, but I make a small percentage from the sale. Thank you so much for watching and supporting me. 2️⃣ Sources used to collect this information include various public news sites, interviews, court documents, FB groups dedicated to the case, and various news channel segments. When quoting statements made by others, they are strictly alleged until confirmed otherwise. Please remember my videos are my independent opinion and to always do your own research. 3️⃣ The views and opinions expressed in this video are personal and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of any other agency, organization, employer, or company. Assumptions made in the analysis are not reflective of the position of any entity other than the creator(s). These views are subject to change, revision, and rethinking at any time and are not to be held in perpetuity. We make no representations as to the accuracy, completeness, correctness, suitability, or validity of any information on this video and will not be liable for any errors, omissions, or delays in this information or any losses, injuries, or damages arising from its display or use. All information is provided on an as-is basis. It is the reader’s responsibility to verify their own facts.

Hey, true crime besties, welcome back to an all-new episode of Serialessly. Hello, hello, hello, and welcome back to an all-new episode of Serialously with me, your host, Annie E. Lees. I hope you're having a fantastic day and week so far. It's Thursday, which, for those of you who are brand new and maybe a newer listener and you don't know the whole rundown over here, let me just kind of break it down for you. Mondays, we do a full deep dive together, where I go through a singular case, the full rabbit hole, all the details, all the red flags, everything. And then on Thursday, I come back on and we do headline highlights together, where I talk through everything that's going on this week in the true crime world,

case updates, trial updates, brand new cases, you know, everything in between, just so that you can really stay on the pulse of everything that is going on in the true crime universe. So, thank you so much for being here. Thank you for listening coming off of CrimeCon weekend, which was in Vegas and was a lot of fun. We will talk more about that in a little bit. But we have a lot to get into today. And, you know, I have an announcement that I was a little nervous to make, but I feel like sometimes you got to just, you know, throw it out into the universe, put breath into it, make it reality. And then you won't be scared anymore. And that announcement is that Amy Colette is here today. I'm so glad you just ripped that band-aid right off. It's been a wound. I'm glad it's out there.

I hate that word. That's so disgusting. Well, here's what I really want to say to you. Heller. Heller. And the reason we want to say heller is a special shout-out, Heller to our friend, Alyssa. We met Alyssa for the first time a couple of years ago at CrimeCon, and she and her husband are absolutely, like, incredible human beings, and they've come out and seen me on tour,

they go to CrimeCon, they've become friends. And so she came by the booth this weekend and actually brought Amy and I these the cutest sweatshirts. Sweat shirts ever. If you're watching YouTube, you can see they are embroidered and they say heller on them. So I was like, oh, we're 1,000% going to wear that in headline highlights. So Alyssa, if you are listening, shout out. We love you. Thank you so much.

And we miss you guys already. I know. So yeah, CrimeCon. How are you feeling? It was our third year. I feel re-energized. Yeah. It was a really great weekend.

And Vegas, I'll be honest, Vegas wasn't my favorite out of the years. Denver has been my favorite so far just because the hotel layout. And I know you and I talked about that a little bit. But overall, really great crowd, had great conversations, spoke with Steve Consolvis, Kaylee Gonzalez's father. We spoke with McEntressel's mother. We spoke with Bidipolit. I mean, so many great conversations throughout the weekend, meeting all of you incredible viewers

and listeners as well, speaking with family members, survivors. and just being together, it's always a great feeling. Yeah, and I think it's just, it's a little, it's a huge reminder, like I always say, but it's like you're in the booth, you're taking photos with people, you're saying hello, you're meeting the community, and most of that is all very positive and light. And then you're introduced to a family member who unfortunately has lost somebody. And it's just a very big, strong reminder of what the work is that you do and hearing their story and hearing them just trying to bring awareness and just having to relive all those

details with each person they're trying to share it with in honor of their loved one. And I just put myself in their shoes, which you know I get emotional when they come up to the booth because I think of myself suffering a loss like that and going out and of course wanting to spread awareness. But then you are forced to be very brave and courageous yourself and share that story over and over again and hope that you're getting the reception that you're. want. And you know what? I'm not going to put anybody on blast, but I am going to say, I'm going to share a little story that we heard while we were at CrimeCon. We were speaking with a family member

of a victim, and I'm not going to say which case or anything like that, because again, I don't want to put anybody on blast. But we sat with her and we chatted for maybe 15 minutes, I think it was. And at the very end, someone who was with her came up to us and just was overly thankful saying, Thank you so much for taking the time to speak with her. Thank you for listening to her. She just was at another podcaster's booth who said basically, and I'm going to paraphrase here, because I don't want to again get too specific to where then it identifies these people and makes them uncomfortable. But where the podcaster basically said to them, like, well, if you want this story to get picked up, you need to make sure that it's really compelling, which like, what a gross thing to say to somebody

who's talking about losing their family member? Like, oh, it's not compelling enough for you? Like, what are you even talking about? And so, like, I can't even imagine the audacity of saying that. Like, it's just unbelievable. And so it was heavy weekend, but also, you know, had really great pockets of some levity and meeting all of you guys and fun moments. And I have to say, too, does it officially mean that I have made it when Chris Hansen comes up to the booth and asks for a photo?

For me, that was my fan girl moment. Not only, I heard the voice before I saw the face. You just didn't want him to say take a seat. And I was like, I know that voice. It means someone's in trouble. He's catching a predator. When he came over and wanted to meet you and wanted to shake your hand and then he got in our photo booth and everyone wanted to take photos.

I told everybody who was like waiting in line for a photo. I was like, hold on guy like for a photo with me, which sounds so stupid saying that. But I was like, hold on. This is the Chris Hansen booth until further notice. He has taken over. Like he trumps everything. And his wife is just the sweetest. the sweetest human being. Talk about a power couple. No, I know. And so yeah, came over,

wanted to do a photo, was asking how we can collaborate together. So stay tuned for that. And he had a great panel on the dangers of Roblox, which I mean, it's no secret. I've talked about Roblox ad nauseum on this channel about how dangerous it is and how I don't believe that any child should be on it. And that's not to fearmonger. It's because of what I have seen. And I think I have to talk with Josh a little bit about it because he sat in towards the end of the panel. And something happened during that panel where they were doing a live demonstration where an account tried to lure someone off platform onto Snapchat and the account got banned like in real time. Within seconds.

Yeah. So again, do your research into Roblox. Actually, I know Josh from Dad Challenge podcast. That's his YouTube channel. I don't think he's on a podcast. I think it's only YouTube. He just did a whole recap of the Chris Hansen presentation. So you can go check that out and it'll give way more detail.

But yeah, overall, a fantastic weekend. We were sad that our girl Elizabeth couldn't make it. She was under the weather last minute. So we're going to have to make up for it in Orlando. Yes. That's where CrimeCon will be next year. It's next September. So September 2027, Orlando.

I don't think you can use my promo code now, but you could try. Pretty soon. I think they go on sale soon. So, yeah, the promo code whenever you get your tickets will be Annie Elise. So just try whenever you're going to buy tickets. Try to use that promo code because you'll get it. a huge discount. But yeah, it was really great. I'm trying to think what other big, I sat in on the Nancy Grace panel, of course, where she talked all about Nancy Guthrie. Yeah, chatted with Vinnie

offline a little bit about the David case. I think for me, I always just love connecting with the community. I think the feedback we get at CrimeCon is the most valuable of the year because you hear across all audiences why they tune in, what cases they're interested about hearing, what really meant a lot to them that we did cover. And I think that's the most important feedback for us. It's just getting out there. Yeah. Like not being alone in a studio with a camera and like talking to people.

That's why I love doing the live tour so much too. Because it's kind of like CrimeCon just on a smaller scale where you're talking to people every night, meeting everyone. And that's one of the fun parts too is like how many people we see time and time again, whether it's at CrimeCon or out on tour who are wearing merch from like three years ago. It's like the third or fourth time we've seen them. I know that by name like, Beth, shout out if you're listening. I saw her in the home like, hey, like you start to recognize each other.

And I don't know, it becomes fun. Then you're having drinks together in the lobby and like hanging out. And one other thing just I'm constantly impressed by, but I think being newer in the space on the first crime con, and now it's our third. I'm beyond impressed with fellow creators and how supportive they are with one another. I mean, Annie was recording on a Thursday when we arrived. So our team got there. She arrived shortly after. But before she got there, Josh stepped up.

C.C. stepped up. Her husband, Tony, so helpful. Just helping us set up the booth. No questions asked. Obviously, our friends at Crime Weekly, one creator of the year. Shout out. I'm not even not, guys. We were up for the award.

And we love, which I was kind of thankful because I was like dreading speaking. But I'm so happy they won. It's their second year in a row. So well deserved. We love Derek and Steph. We hung out with them literally everything. But that's what's so cool. There's not both of us, but going into the Clue Awards, we're like, good luck.

Good luck. Like, awesome for whoever wins, you know. And I just, it's really nice to go somewhere where there isn't competitive energy and there's a sense of community. Yeah, no drama. Awesome. I know. It was great. And we went and saw the very first night we got in on Thursday, we went and saw Wizard of Oz at the sphere.

Highly, highly, highly recommend. It was incredible. And, yeah. I agree with you. It's so much nicer when there's not this weird competitiveness or like underlying competition to where it's like, what's the thing? Like there's plenty of seats at the table. Like, we encourage each other. Everybody's going, working towards the same goal purpose. Yeah, exactly. For a victim advocacy and awareness. So why would there be competition? I remember even like I love to pick other, the brains of other creators too, just because like I want to

get their opinion on cases or their insight. And I, where it was, it must have been during Wizard of Oz or right after, because Derek and Steph came with us, um, and their team actually came with us as well, which their team, they have like some of the nicest people on their team. And it was either at Wizard of Oz or at dinner the following night. And I remember asking him like all of these questions about the David case because of his time working in the field because he's obviously, he's seen so many different homicides and things like that where I was asking him some details, which I don't want to get like overly gory, but like, because I wanted to increase my knowledge on the subject. And, like, he was like, yeah, let's talk about it. And I don't know. There's just like, again, it's so nice when

people can come together rather than be like, you just want to help. Weird energy. Yeah. So we don't like haters. That was a fucking 11 minute recap. I'm really sorry. And I'm sorry if that gave you phomo or I'm sorry if you just felt like, Annie, I don't even care about crime con. What are you talking about? But I wanted to at least talk about it, do think sometimes crime con gets a bad rap. People think that it's sensationalism or that it's all about like exploiting people. But what they don't realize is that a lot of these victims families go there for the purpose of either not only doing a panel like Kaylee's family from Idaho, from the Idaho four case, but families going because they want the coverage. They want to keep their story in the spotlight. Like it's not about, oh, we're fans of true crime. Let's talk about our favorite thing.

No. No. It's more purpose driven than that. I've heard directly from a few of the family members that they choose this convention intentionally because of the ethics around it. Yeah. And I was saying to you, I feel like the panels have gotten just better and better over the years and more of them because I think more people want to participate. A great example of that is there was a panel. Actually, I think there may have been more than one with the Epstein survivors.

And they came and they never, they're obviously advocating in public and they're being very vocal about things. but they were extremely raw and vulnerable in these sessions talking about it because they felt like they were in a safe space. So I think sometimes CrimeCon can get a bad rap, but really it's such a moving weekend. And like... Josh said he's never going to miss another one. Oh, really? Yeah.

Oh, because this was, yeah, his first one. So yeah, there you go. Chew on that. I don't know why I said that. Wow. Okay, well, let's go into this first update, okay? We are going to talk about a major update that actually happened while I was at CrimeCon. in the case of baby Emmanuel Haro.

So you'll probably remember this one. Back on August 14th, 2025, Emmanuel's mother, Rebecca, had reported that her young son, who was under one year old, had been kidnapped from the parking lot of a Big Five Sporting's Good Center. This was in Yucpa, California.

Rebecca claimed that she had gone to the Big Five because I think she had just dropped off her son at football practice. She needed to get like a mouth guard or she needed to do something. So she said that she was changing Emmanuel's diaper, while then somebody came up from behind her, like as she was reaching for the diaper, said, Ola, and then knocked her unconscious to the ground and ran off with Emmanuel.

She claimed that when she woke up after being knocked down, he was just gone. However, a lot of things just were not adding up from the very beginning. First of all, the fact of like the surveillance footage or lack thereof, the time of day and night, it was like nothing in her story made a lot of sense. And investigators within days also said that they found a lot of inconsistencies in her story. According to the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department, when the detectives confronted her about these inconsistencies, she ended the interview and she and her dirtbag husband Jake completely stopped cooperating with the police. Also, come to find out that during all of this, Jake's past also came to light where he had a ton of past convictions of child abuse against his previous child.

so much so that resulted in disabilities, lifelong ailments, horrible things. So as that was, of course, coming out, people were like, obviously where there's smoke, there's fire, something's not right here. He has a history of this. This whole interview is off-putting. I remember they couldn't even, like, give a full description of him. Like, whereas if it were me, it's like, or you, I'm sure you're basically like, oh, my child, you know, has a little scar on their ear, a freckle over here, they have big eyes,

they love blue, like things that are easily identifiable. and characteristics, and they couldn't even like list one, which I'm like, that's weird. So finally, on August 22nd, the authorities announced that this alleged kidnapping really hadn't even occurred at all. And after hundreds of hours searching for baby Emmanuel, investigators said that they believed that he was in fact deceased. So then they were shifting their focus in the investigation to finding his remains. That same day, there was a huge raid on the house, and both Rebecca and Jake were arrested on suspicion of murder. So as we know, or if you've been following the case, Jake, the father, later pleaded guilty to murder and to filing a false police report. Also,

child endangerment. He was sentenced to 25 years to life in prison, plus an additional seven years and two months for a probation violation. So in total, a little over 32 years before he will ever even be eligible for parole. However, Rebecca pleaded not guilty, and she remained in custody on a one million-dollar bail. And at first, I think the thought was in this was that he was going to take the fall for her. He would take the rap. She would be released that maybe she was helpful in the cover-up but didn't really participate in the crime that it was Jake. And maybe that's the reason that he was taking the fall. Who knows? However, all of that has now changed. Because on Friday, May 29th, nearly nine months after Emmanuel was first reported missing, Rebecca has suddenly

changed her plea. She pled guilty to felony child abuse, involuntary manslaughter, and accessory after the fact. So she was immediately sentenced to 12 years and 8 months in state prison, which personally, I do not believe that that's enough. I was just my eyes, like 12 years. No, I know. I know. I know. So the assistant district attorney said, quote, Rebecca's plea and sentence today reflects her sins of parental omission. Her choice not to intervene, was a choice to allow, if not facilitate, Emmanuel's death. This defendant had a legal and moral responsibility as Emmanuel's mother. She catastrophically failed in that duty. So even though both parents have now pleaded guilty, there is still, of course, a huge major unanswered question in this case. Because at the time of this recording, not only do we not know what happened and why, not that the why

necessarily matters, but like, when did it happen? Why did it happen? Because there also weren't any recent photos. But also, Emmanuel's remains have not been recovered. Now, early on, I will say this too. After Jake was arrested, it's believe, there was like all of this footage where he brought the police to like this shoulder of the freeway, this off, like not off ramp, but like the shoulder of the freeway where there's just like all this vast land and desert. And it's in Yucaypo, which is more of like the desert area. So a lot of people believe that, oh, okay, he was arrested. Now he's cooperating.

He's leading the authorities to Emmanuel's remains. Why else would they be there when it's and take him out? I think he was even in his like orange jumpsuit when they took him out. However, they searched and searched and searched and it didn't yield any results. So then the conversation became more of even if they did dispose of his remains in the desert. Animals may have gotten to him. Things could have moved. I mean, so many different scenarios.

So I don't know that we will ever know where Emmanuel's remains are if he was placed in the desert or something like that. And I don't know that they necessarily will ever cooperate and say that. Maybe they will since they already pleaded guilty. I mean, maybe there's, you know, nowhere to go but up from there. If you cooperate and share that information. But as of now, we still don't know the why or the where. So number one, I'm annoyed.

Like you wasted so much time and like resources and resources like that's one thing. But more I'm quite I'm curious to know from your perspective. You just said if they were to give the whereabouts that might help them to maybe, you know, get a lighter sentence or shorter sentence, I should say. I don't know if that would because they've already been sentenced, but when they're eligible for parole then or early release, then that would probably go a long way. If you're cooperating, you show remorse. You're saying, let me tell you where he is and everything that happened. Well, because my first thought was, why not share where the remains are at this point? Like, put that little boy to rest the way he deserves.

Like, you already fucked up as a parent. Right. There's no coming back. You've admitted to it. So do the right thing at this point and give that little boy the burial he deserves. Which maybe Jake was trying to do that, not trying to be the good person, but like trying to light and his sentence early on and take them to that area where his remains were to suppose and unfortunately animals moved him. Oh, so you think the intention to show? Because I was thinking is that one of the-

There's nothing to lose at this point. Well, in the manner of which perhaps that he died, could that maybe worsen their sentence? And that's why they're like, if they don't find them, then we don't have to say, find him, then at least we don't have to say- The cause of death and manner of death because, yeah, she did plead guilty to involuntary manslaughter. So rather than like first-degree or something like that, possible. So I don't know. But Jake pleaded guilty to murder. So maybe he is the one that cooperated.

Who knows? But, I mean, these people are just disgusting human beings. And his track record, too, I've done a full deep dive on this case. You can go back and search it either in the podcast feed or on YouTube. But when his past, I don't even know what you want to say, not allegations because they were convictions, what he did to his other child. When that all came out, it was like, okay, the writing is on. the wall of what happened here. I think we all know. It was from day one. So that's what I'm saying. You just wasted so much time and resources. I know. You have an update in a case that we just talked about

last week, right? A few weeks ago. Yeah. Last week or the week before. Yeah, the week before, I think. Okay. Yeah. So yeah, there's an update in the Melissa Cassius case because after almost a year of searching, there's finally been a really big development. And as Annie said, we talked about this case about two weeks ago on headline highlights in a little more detail. But just as a quick recap, Melissa Cassius was a 53-year-old woman from Taos, New Mexico, who disappeared on June 26, 2025. Now that morning, she took her husband to work at the Los Almos National Laboratory, where they both worked. Then she went home and told her daughter that she had forgotten her work badge and was going to work from home instead that day. Around noon, Melissa brought lunch to her daughter at work, but then after that, she seemingly just vanished.

And by 2 p.m., Melissa's boss had contacted her husband because she had never clocked in to work that day. Then at 2.15 p.m., Melissa was seen on surveillance footage walking southbound along State Road 518 near Talpa. And that would end up being the last confirmed sighting of her. Now, one of the things that has made this case so frustrating was that there never seemed to be any clear answers as to where Melissa went or what happened after she was last seen walking down that road. But now there has been an update. Last Thursday, May 28th, exactly 11 months and two days after Melissa disappeared, a hiker found human remains in the Carson National Forest about six miles from Melissa's home.

Authorities say the remains were found next to a handgun, and the office of the medical investigator was able to quickly identify them as belonging to Melissa. Two days later, her family confirmed the news on the Find Melissa Mondragon Cassius' Facebook page, saying, we confirm the... that the remains found in Rio Chiquita are Melissa. There will be more information to come, but what we can tell you now is she was located in an area previously searched. This is a lot to process. Our hearts are heavy, and we fully intend to continue to pursue answers for justice. So Melissa has finally been found, but investigators still don't have all the answers. The office

of the medical investigator is still working to determine both her cause and manner of death, and Melissa's family is still trying to piece together what exactly. happened before she died. So there's still a lot of unanswered questions here and we'll obviously keep following it and give you those updates as they come up. But one question I have is if this was indeed self-inflicted, was she running from something? Was she afraid? Was there any type of clues leading up to why this might have happened? I mean, there's so many conspiracies about the missing and killed scientists and everything that's been going on, which another shout out, to Stephanie Harlow. She has been doing so many deep dives into all of that. When I first saw that

Melissa was found, the fact that there was a firearm next to, I was like, okay, this appears to be probably self-inflicted. She was also only six miles from her home, so it's not like she was out on her own for a long time and then like succumbed to the elements or anything like that. But I think it's interesting because we know she factory reset her phone before she left. She lied about her not having her badge and going to the lab that day. Like it's as if she was trying shut her life down a little bit, whether that's because she was in trouble and hiding from someone or hiding something. I don't know if that's really clear. But what I do think is interested is how in the official statement they say, more information to come. What we can tell you now

is that she was located in an area that was previously searched, which I get it. Sometimes it's difficult to find remains after months and months and who knows like the state of every decomposition and what the terrain is like and all of that. But I mean, Occam's razor would suggest that there was probably something she was flating from. She went off grid, went to like some deserted little area and took her own life so it wasn't in her family home. But I know there's so much more going on right now with different conspiracies and things

like that that maybe there was blackmail involved. Maybe there was something else. Maybe she was running from someone and wanted to protect her family. Like, I don't know. I think there will be a lot more to come. This is obviously big speculation on my part. Okay. But I just feel like my gut is telling me that she was afraid or being threatened or something

of the sort to push her to do that only because it seemed like she liked her life. Only from the sense of like it's your last day. This was obviously planned. And you drove your husband to work. You wanted to take your daughter lunch. And like that, who knows, this is. totally just an assumption. But it could be her way of saying goodbye. That's what I mean. But it is up. Yeah. And I don't know. It's sad. It is really sad. So it'll be interesting once cause

of death and manner of death are released, which at the time of this recording they have not been, but maybe they will be at the time of release. There also have been some updates in the Anna Kepner case. And there's a pretty significant update in this. And we have a pretty good look into what prosecutors believe happened the night that Anna was killed, which, as a recap, 18-year-old Anna was on a cruise ship with her family in early November 2025. She was sharing a room with her 16-year-old step-brother Timothy and another sibling of hers. And on the morning of November 8th, a housekeeper who went into the cabin room made a horrifying discovery. Anna was under the bed, wrapped in blankets, covered in life jackets, and deceased. Also had been sexually assaulted.

The medical examiner later determined that she had died from mechanical exfixiation, meaning that she had been strangled, and they believe more specifically with a bar hold, meaning like the forearm against someone's neck. So almost immediately, people had started questioning whether her stepbrother Timothy could have been involved, especially because there were reports that Anna felt really uncomfortable around him, that he had previously harassed her. She had confided in someone she was seeing, that he would make uncomfortable gestures and comments and different things like that. So obviously, everybody kind of looked at him, especially since he was sharing the room with her.

After the ship returned to Miami, Timothy ended up being hospitalized for a psychiatric evaluation, while the FBI then began investigating what happened. Then, about three months later, he was arrested, and he was charged as a juvenile in connection with Anna's death. Now, at that point, most of the court records were sealed because he was being prosecuted as a minor at the time. However, that also, All changed in April of 2026 when a federal grand jury indicted Timothy as an adult, and he was indicted on charges of first-degree murder and aggravated sexual abuse. Prosecutors allege that Timothy sexually assaulted Anna inside that cabin before then murdering her and attempting to hide her body underneath the bed. But here's where it gets even more disturbing

and where we're getting some more information as to what really went down, because we now have new court documents from a hearing that took place on May 27th. And these details are pretty disturbing. According to prosecutors, surveillance footage shows both Timothy and Anna entering the cabin that they shared shortly after 7.30 p.m. on November 7th. Prosecutors believe that Anna was still alive at 8.14 p.m. that evening. She reportedly sent a Snapchat to somebody. But then at 10.13 p.m., so about two hours later, Timothy allegedly is seen back on that surveillance footage, opening the door from the cabin, sticking his head out into the hallway, looking up and down the hallway, as if he was checking if anyone was around, and then leaving the room.

However, Anna never left the room. Prosecutors also say that Wi-Fi routers on the ship showed that Timothy then carried Anna's phone all the way away from the cabin, onto another deck, and disposed of it. Investigators believe he threw it into a trash can rather than overboard, because the phone was later recovered from a trash collection bin by a cruise ship employee, which I have to say like error number one, why wouldn't you throw it overboard into the sea? Why would you like dispose of it on a moving ship? Like you're taking the crime scene with you, my man. But then there's also the DNA evidence.

And here's where it gets a little tricky and where we're not sure exactly what went on during that vacation. According to some newly unsealed documents, investigators found DNA inside Anna's body. and this DNA was determined to have a high probability of belonging to her stepbrother Timothy. However, prosecutors also revealed that there was another minor who had sexual contact with Anna during the cruise. He was identified and also tested. So his DNA was compared against the DNA that was found inside Anna, and the investigators determined that it was not his, and then that's when they looked and they determined it was Timothy's.

The documents also revealed some new details from Anna's autopsy. prosecutors say that Timothy allegedly had strangled Anna so hard with so much force that her eardrum ruptured. The medical examiner had already determined that Anna had died from exfixiation, which we talked about. However, this is the first time that we're hearing directly from prosecutors where they're describing the injuries in this kind of level of detail, which again, with a bar hold that much force to where your eardrum literally explodes, that is an incredible amount of not only force, adrenaline impact. And we've done the demonstration on here in past cases. I'm not going to do it right now. But like where you set a timer for how long it takes someone to suffocate to death,

it's a long time. And for someone to have that close personal contact on top of you, looking you in the eyes and letting that timer run and realizing just how long it is, it's incredibly personal with so much hatred, I would imagine, or like passion. I hate you in the word passion because I feel like passion is usually affiliated with like love, which he was obsessed obviously. Like jealousy, rage. Yeah, but rage. That's a perfect example.

And so it's disgusting. Now, before I get into what's going on with Timothy and why people are enraged because he's not being held right now, I want to talk about the other minor. It hasn't been disclosed who this other minor is. We know that they have been identified and that they were tested and that they had sex with Anna. My question, we have heard the allegations that Timothy was obsessed with her, that he harassed her, that he was infatuated with her. Could she have met someone on that cruise ship? Hooked up with him. Timothy gets pissed off, enraged, to your point, jealous, and that's what happened, that he almost felt like, you belong to me or you're mine, or we're on this cruise together.

Or you denied me, but you'll let this guy or whatever. And when did that take place? Did, is that why Anna went back to the room early when she was complaining about her braces? Like, yeah, obviously all of this will come out in the trial. But it's shocking that we haven't heard from anybody that witnessed the two of, like, her with somebody else. I know. Because you think, like, as teenagers, you're like, you know, you meet someone.

It's like a fling. You're like running around the cruise ship, like making out or whatever. I don't know. And this was only what three days in, I believe, into the cruise, right? It was early on. It was very early on. So, I don't know. a lot more to come. But here's what a lot of people are talking about and what has a lot of people

in rage. As I mentioned, Timothy is not currently being held in jail. Despite all of these allegations, despite the DNA evidence, despite everything, he's been living with family members while awaiting trial. And prosecutors have asked the court multiple times to detain him, saying he poses a danger to the community. You need to hold him until trial. But during last week's hearing, the judge finally said that he's considering the request, but that he wants more information from the U.S. Marshal Service about possible juvenile detention facilities that Timothy may be held at while the case moves forward. And here's the problem with that. I get that you're finally like evaluating the request. It's been months, okay? Months and months and months. So much so, too. You see that this case and these charges

are so severe that they're being upgraded from juvenile to adult. This guy is a sexual predator. He's going to prey on his own family member. I get it. Step. not by blood, but still, his own family member, and he is young, his, he doesn't have impulse control. He maybe doesn't even recognize consequences and what things truly mean. He had to go into psychiatric facility for evaluation. Like, clearly this is a dangerous and unsettling person to just be out there in the community, especially now that he knows he's going to be tried as an adult. He probably has nothing to lose at this point, not to mention that he would maybe possibly flee, but also that maybe do whatever you want to do before you're incarcerated and your whole

life is ripped away from you. Like, this is the exact definition, in my opinion, of a case and a situation where somebody should be remanded without bail until trial. Like, I don't understand the decision here at all. And that's been one of the most frustrating parts for a lot of people who are following this case, because the prosecutors are laying out exactly what they believe happened, yet he's still out in the public, living life as if nothing happened, with, you know, maybe a few restrictions, but nothing major. Now, the defense's position has basically been that Timothy will continue to comply with the court orders, that he will show up for the hearings, and that he will not pose a danger while he's out on release, which great, but that's also all lip service. How do you know

he won't pose a danger? I'm sure that Anna's family didn't think he posed a danger when they went on this family cruise. Like, what do you mean? They also have said absolutely nothing of about the alleged details of the crime. However, another more shocking detail came out from a different hearing that happened back in February. According to newly unsealed testimony from an FBI agent who was working on the case,

investigators interviewed Anna's ex-boyfriend during the investigation, and he allegedly described a, quote, strange incident that happened while he was on FaceTime with Anna one night. Now, we've heard little bits of this throughout the last few months, but we've never gotten actual clarity

because all the documents had been sealed. But according to this testimony, Anna had fallen asleep during this FaceTime call with her ex. He was doing some work in his garage. And then he heard a noise coming from Anna's phone. And so he looked back at the screen. And when he looked, he said that he allegedly saw her stepbrother Timothy

trying to climb into bed with Anna while she was asleep. So obviously you have a history here, right? You have a pattern. So the ex-boyfriend said he was so shocked by seeing this, he immediately started yelling at Timothy through the phone, like, get the hell off of her. What the fuck do you think you're doing? Because he probably didn't realize that Anna was on FaceTime.

He thought she was just asleep, which, thank God, they were still on FaceTime. Can you imagine had they not been? And if nobody had heard that and been able to scare him off? So Timothy then ran out of the room, all while Anna, I guess, slept through the entire thing. The next day, though, the ex-boyfriend told Anna what had happened and what he saw. According to the FBI agent, Anna then told her ex-boyfriend that she was very very, hesitant to tell her father about it. She said that Timothy was, yeah, you know, a little bit weird, that he owned a lot of knives and that she was afraid of him, but she was nervous to tell her dad about it.

Which that detail has really stood out to a lot of people throughout this case, because family members have described Anna and Timothy as being extremely close. Anna's stepmother previously even said that Anna, Timothy, and Anna's younger half-brother were like the three amigos, that they were best friends. We also heard that early on too. I think it was the grand who had said, like, they were thick as thick as thieves, they were best friends where it's like, I get that maybe that was the perception. And Anna maybe didn't want to rock the family dynamic and break up this blended family. And that's why she was scared to tell her dad.

But obviously, there was something way more sinister going on here. So now with these newly unsealed documents, the prosecution is painting a very different picture about the relationship between Anna and Timothy than what family members and other people originally believed. Meanwhile, Timothy has pleaded not guilty to all of the charges. The case is still moving forward toward a trial. And that was originally set to, I believe, start June 1st, but it has now been moved to September 8th, which I believe we plan on covering it. It will be, if I'm remembering correctly, it's going to be a federal trial given that it happened on the water and that there's a minor involved. So there may not be cameras in the courtroom, but we do plan on sending someone in

covering that trial. So stay tuned. I mean, I think when you painted the picture of, and we now know the intensity of how he killed her, I think, well, allegedly, I think that could speak to why he had that psychotic episode getting off the, I mean, if he had to watch her stuff, you know. Yeah. And it's not that any murder is easy, but again, strangulation, it's so personal and it is so, I mean, not, it's like, it's drawn out. It's a long period. And there, you're, I'm not going to go. into details, but your body goes through so many reactions to that as the victim that watching those reactions. As a minor, who isn't fully developed to even comprehend that. Right. I can't.

It probably does, which good. It should weigh heavily on you. You fucking creep. And also, after hearing more detail about that previous FaceTime situation, more evidence of why this person is a risk. Yes. He felt entitled or comfy enough to do this again. Yeah.

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a lot of attention online because people are now asking whether there could potentially be a serial killer in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico. Now, to be clear, authorities have not said that there is a serial killer. In fact, they're saying that there's not one. But we're going to circle back to that. So the reason people are talking about it so much is because three women were found dead in Puerto Vallarda in a span of less than two weeks in mid-May. And some of the details have raised a lot of questions. The first woman was found on May 10th near a viewpoint called Rancho L. Pirouli. Authority say she died from injuries caused by a sharp object and her wrists had been cut. Investigators believe she was around 30 years old, but she hasn't been officially identified yet.

Then, just five days later, on May 15th, a second woman was found at a roadside stop along a highway. She may have suffered a blow to the head and may have had signs of poisoning. Investigators estimate that she was between 35 and 40 years old, but like the first victim, she has not yet been identified. And then on May 21st, a third woman was discovered on a dirt road in the park. L'Arque-Las Palmas neighborhood. Authorities say she showed signs of asphyxiation, along with signs of violence and bruising to her face. However, unlike the first two women,

this victim was later identified as 25-year-old Elizabeth Galindo, who had been reported missing in Mexico on April 29th. So as investigators started looking more closely at the cases, they noticed some similarities. What stood out right away is that all three women had multiple tattoos and seemed to be close in age. But where things started looking a little strange was when they looked more closely at the first two women

and the way in which they were found. According to authorities, both women were found in a similar state of partial undress, with their shirts nearly pulled off. They were also both discovered in somewhat isolated or less traveled areas of Puerto Vallarta. And because of those similarities, authorities began looking into whether the cases could be connected.

And that's when the rumors really started taking off online with headlines suggesting that there could be a serial killer in the area. Porto Viata police reviewed evidence, surveillance footage, and investigative reports. They also explored the possibility that the woman may have been killed somewhere else and then brought to Porto Viata and dumped. But after all of that, the Halisco State Prosecutor's Office made a public statement pushing back on the serial killer theory, saying that investigators are still trying to determine whether these deaths were even murders at all. And if they were, they needed to figure out if they were committed by the same person. But everyone is not convinced. One of the legislators representing Puerto Vallada's 5th District has publicly said that she believes

there might be more to these cases than the officials are saying. She pointed to what she sees as a disturbing pattern and suggested that authorities might be downplaying this because Puerto Vallarda is one of the most desired tourist destinations in Mexico. Especially with the World Cup coming to Guadalajara, this could certainly hurt the reputation of the area. She said, let me tell you why I think they did it. Because sadly, this news is making international headlines. It is leaving our port city in a very bad light. I do believe this is something that puts us very much on alert,

something that compels women to be far more cautious and sadly to live in fear. And another part of this that's getting a lot of attention is that in Puerto Vallarda, five women were murdered during the first five months of 2026 alone. And in comparison, there were only three murders of women reported there in all of 2025. So right now, there are still a lot more questions and answers. Authorities haven't confirmed if these cases are connected, haven't identified any suspects, and they haven't said if any of these deaths are even homicides, even though it might seem obvious from the outside looking in that they are.

But I'm sure there will be more on this and we'll keep an eye out for updates. I know for us, we go to Mexico all the time or we used to because it's so close. And I've always heard that Puerto Vallardo was a little more dangerous than some of the other areas. First, it doesn't surprise me if they're trying to skirt around the possibility of a serial killer. I feel like we have seen that in Texas. We've seen that everywhere because they don't want the community to be fearful. but also, yes, it's a huge tourist destination. World Cup is coming nearby.

I feel like just recently, what was it? All of the cartel stuff that happened in Port of Iorta, too. Were there fires or something? Because I remember people being... It wasn't the fires. It was like the cartel uproar. And like they were lighting gas stations on fire. They were robbing people.

And it was like scary. And a lot of people were trapped there because the airport was even like shut down for a minute and people couldn't get home. And so I do think that... This is just one more thing on the... It's right off the heels of that. And so it's like they're probably trying to contain it as much as possible.

But it doesn't look good. No, especially. I mean, that's a big spring break destination summer. And I'll tell you one thing. It doesn't make me want to go to Mexico anytime soon. Or Hawaii, you would think Hawaii, but there's just a serial killer in Hawaii. Well, and I read last night that an American citizen was killed in Cabo. Several innocent bystanders caught in gunshot.

They were shot because there was some sort of a feud and it was in Cabo and gosh. All right. Well, I want to talk about McKenzie's Sherilla again. And like, I know. I know. But you know what? I'm really hopeful that this is like the last week or the last two weeks. But we foiled McKenzie.

We've already had been sitting on so many documents. But they've been like kind of tight lip to give a lot of like the digital stuff. And what I mean by that is like photos, videos, all the jail calls, things like that. and we have like terabytes and terabytes worth of data now. And I'll talk about more of that in a minute here. But what I really want to talk about right now is something going on with her dad. Because ever since this documentary, things just keep piling up and getting worse and worse. Now, as a quick recap, just in case you've been sleeping under a rock,

McKenzie Shirilla is the Ohio girl who was convicted of murdering her boyfriend Dominic and their friend Davy on, after prosecutors said that she intentionally drove her car nearly 100 miles per hour. hour into a brick building back in July of 2022. She was convicted in 23, and then she was sentenced to two concurrent sentences of 15 years to life in prison. Now, one of the biggest things that people are talking about this week is a recent interview that McKenzie's dad, Steve Shirilla, gave, and he gave this interview on a podcast called True Crime This Week. During this interview, Steve talks a lot about, quote, the facts of the case that the prosecution didn't present, how this case should have gone a lot differently, and that the doctor

Documentary should have also gone differently. But more notably, he says that McKenzie did not intentionally kill Dom or Davion. He was even talking about McKenzie being remorseful at one point and said that if she had truly planned to kill Dom, it wouldn't make sense that Davion was in the car also. Specifically saying that Davion, quote, would have never been in that car if that had been her intention. Take a listen. This has nothing to do with the boys.

It's, again, tragic that those boys died. And she has some responsibility into it. But what that is, nobody is ever going to know. Because nobody was in that car. And there's no evidence and there's no story. There's no paper. There's no note. There's no video.

My daughter in the remorse, that's another thing that's huge. I sat with my daughter for three months in that room right there. Three months. Watching her watch every video, every song, every picture about that. boy he had it was a shrine to him in my at room shrine cried herself to sleep every night I know the trolls are going to go god she should cry herself to sleep she has remorse

she was upset if you would have heard her when she found out that dom died if you had heard the sound that came out of her it would have crushed you um she's seven she was 17 she's a dumb kid she wasn't breaking up she didn't do it on purpose and I've asked her do you do this on purpose And she's going, no. And I would think if my daughter was that mad, that mad at that boy to want to kill him that way, DeVion wouldn't have never been in the car.

Right. Now, not for nothing, but we know that McKenzie is selfish, entitled, and only cares about herself. So I don't think it would have mattered at all who else was in that car. I think she had laser-focused vision on what she was planning to do. And it didn't matter if it was Davion in the car. It wouldn't have mattered if it was Rosie in the car. it wouldn't have mattered anybody else was in the car, just my opinion. But he also talks a little bit about how he was put on administrative leave after the documentary came out, which if you don't know,

he's an art teacher at a Catholic school, and he said that the school apparently had a problem with some of the things that he said about drugs, which I kind of agree with, okay? Because I don't know what he thought when he went on a literal Netflix documentary and said he doesn't care if his child smokes dope or smokes weed, and that he thinks. that's better than other drugs. Obviously, if you're supposed to be setting an example for children, maybe you don't give them a pass on drugs if they're minors, like, or at all, it just makes no sense to me. So now he's saying, like, he kind of wants to play the whole poor me card saying he doesn't have a job. My daughter's innocent. She's remorseful, even though, you know, your daughter caused something

incredibly horrific and devastating and life ending with THC in her system. And yet your hot take is that you don't care if she smoked weed. It just obviously did not land right for anyone. But then he went on to double down what he said, and he tried to explain why he was okay with it and said that she needed to do it to learn for herself, which take a listen. I know you come from an art background, graphic design. Yep, graphic design, yep. And then you were teaching art. Yes, yes. Now, what's happened since the documentary came out? Well, apparently the diocese had a problem with something I said in there. Along with...

Did people contact that? Yes, that's my understanding. There was a website out of Parma, Parma something. And I guess they just called in and made all kind of stupid, baseless accusations. And then the diocese has an obligation to protect the kids, which I understand. But the problem I have with the diocese is doing how they did it is they didn't talk to me. They just acted. Just here it is, boom.

So you were teaching for like a Catholic school? Catholic school, yes. And they're saying that, you know, because of the drugs or something? In the documentary, we were talking about her. So you didn't have a problem with her? I didn't. I didn't. As, you know, as a parent, I pick my battles.

You know, I'm sorry if I find marijuana not that dangerous as I find alcohol or cocaine or whatever. You know, I, I, she, my daughter, beyond whatever else seems to think or wants to interpret or gleam, she seemed mature enough to handle it. I didn't see an issue. It wasn't, it wasn't causing her to be late for this or not to, do this or or get in an accident, get an ex, you know what I'm saying? There was, there wasn't anything that was, and I just, I had other battles I wanted to fight with her. And I taught her, right along,

I said, look, you can't be driving with it, blah, blah, blah, watch with, you know, you can't, you be careful with Dominic, you know, if you get caught, he gets caught, you get caught, you, you know, all I can do is teacher and try to try to make her learn. She's a lot like me. When I was little, I needed to do it, experience it to learn it, you know, and don't touch the stove. Steve, don't touch the stove, and I go touch the stove, and it got burned. You know, it's, it's who she is. You know, she has to learn for herself and make her own choices, and that's what I was doing. And she was, she was, her and down were making a life together now. So then there was another thing that also came out this week. Another phone call was released that has sparked a lot of

backlash online. In this phone call, McKenzie is talking with her mom about her future, saying that she wants to become a life coach and that that's her plan if she's ever released from prison, which during this call, her mom, who we know is like not only enabling, but also just as fucking delusional, in my opinion, she says, you're going to be able to help so many more people than you already were, you know what I mean? Just because of your experiences. And McKenzie says, I'm going to be a life coach and stuff. I'm just, I'm going to be everything. I'm going to do everything. Take a listen. What do you say? All the things you have been experienced. experiencing.

It's so much. So many highs and lows and lows and all down. A pillar of strength, my love. Yeah, like, man, I'll come home and just like, oh, you know. Pillar of strength. You're going to be able to help so many more people than you already were. You know what it means just because of your experiences? I'm going to be, like, a life coach and stuff.

Yeah. I'm just going to be everything. I'm going to do everything. I like, I want to do it. Now look, I'm all for being aspirational and maybe wanting to like better things. But like the last person in the world that I would take life coaching advice from would be McKenzie Shirilla. I would sooner take life coaching advice from Casey Anthony, like, which says a lot. That's a bold statement.

I know. But truly, because let me walk that back a little bit. I was like, let's rethink that. I mean, well, here's where I'm saying. At least she was smart enough to get. out of every we all know what she did but at least she was like smart enough and intelligent enough to lie enough to get out of it it's like there's at least some sort of skill set there being deceitful and being bad mackenzie is just this entitled selfish little creep loser who only cares about her slutty

Halloween costumes ripping the bong in the car selling feet picks and jerking people off with her feet like see i almost not prefer but i prefer someone who's just doesn't care like who's openly who they are and like I'm a nightmare person, but this is what I do. Like, I'm just going to be out there. Whereas Casey Anthony was trying to like be this professional universal who was working and like this worried mom where McKell is, McKenzie's kind of like, fuck that. I'm jealous. I'm the coolest girl in school and I can smoke weed and drive and like this badass.

So the writing's on the wall. Obviously we hate her. But at least she was who she was. Casey was trying to like be this person that she was not even close to being. I'm going to sign you. I'm going to reach out to McKenzie and tell her you want to sign it for her course. And it's going to be a pyramid scheme and you're going to go broke. And you're going to take all the life.

I didn't say I buy. Merry Christmas. What kills me is how many people talk about her accent in jail. And it just like came out of nowhere and that she's trying to be a badass. I know. I can't with her. So you know what? I take it all back.

I don't want life coaching for many of them. I want life coaching from Mike King at profiling evil. Love that. We love Mike King. I was so happy to get like me see him again. weekend and we love him. Okay. So anyway, the comments obviously quickly spread online with a lot of people questioning whether she has even fully accepted responsibility for what happened at this point, which like I said it last week, I'm not so sure that she has. And then there's a response from Dom's family

about all of this. Dom's sister Christine has recently spoken out after the release of the documentary and she did not hold back. In an interview, Christine says that McKenzie's parents are continuing to defend her instead of acknowledging the findings of the court. She said that Steve and Natalie, quote, created a monster and that they have never shown enough remorse for the deaths of Dom and Davion, specifically saying it's all for show. She also criticized the documentary itself

saying that she believes that it left out important evidence and has forced the victim's families to relive the case all over again, which, amen. There also has been a major legal development. McKenzie's attorneys are now asking the Ohio Supreme Court to review her case after one of her post-conviction appeals was rejected because it was filed one day late.

Court records show that the issue with the filing was based on a deadline calculation involving the 2024 leap year. So her attorneys are arguing that that filing shouldn't have been dismissed over what they are calling a calendaring error, which fair argument, kind of, I get where it's like you can't really argue if you're one day late normally because then you have to make exceptions for everyone. But if there was something with the calendar year or like still it's your job, you should have been paying attention to it. But like I get where maybe they're now trying to squeeze a little bit more out of that argument because of the leap year, like, and trying to do whatever they can do.

Now, as of this recording, the Ohio Supreme Court hasn't decided whether it will hear the appeal, which is most likely based around, you know, the apparent medical evidence that was never heard in court about McKenzie's pots, also about the text with Davy, who really even knows. So we'll keep watching for those updates because if the Supreme Court does decide to hear her case, that is going to be, you know, a whole other new ordeal. And let me say this too. I talked about it a little bit. We have collected so many terabytes of media, data, calls, everything that I have two bonus episodes coming out this week, okay? One came out yesterday, and it was six phone calls between McKenzie and her friends while she's been in jail, which, in my opinion,

She shows no remorse. They're talking about relationships. They're talking about fun things. She drops the R word literally dozens of times. It's unbelievable how that's just in her vocabulary. But I listened to, we've got hours and hours and hours worth of calls. And we pulled out the most important ones. So that episode is live right now on YouTube.

And then tomorrow also releasing another one, there were over, gosh, I don't know, tons of calls between her and her mom pulled out. the top 16 crazy bat shit unhinged calls between the two of them that is releasing tomorrow. Other than that, we also, fun little news at CrimeCon, whenever I was not at the booth, we had a phone there, like a cute little pink phone where you could leave a message. So we did like this whole segment of like, oh, you can either ask for advice or you can confess to your bestie, like everything's anonymous. And so throughout the weekend, people would leave either their little confessions or ask a piece

of advice for me to answer. So beginning probably next week, we will start rolling that into the end of headline highlights, where we will pull from the recordings, either share the confession with you guys. And again, it's all anonymous. Don't worry. Or, well, if it's a real confession, I'm sharing it with the police. And then also, you know, the little advice portion. So that'll be interesting. It'll be fun. It'll be fun. Yeah. All right, guys, that is it for this week's headline highlights. Thank you so much for joining us today. And until the next one. Be nice. Don't kill people. Don't go to Mexico. Don't go to Mexico. Hello, goodbye. All right. Bye, guys.