Sex, Love, and What Else Matters - ‘Big Brother’s’ Tucker Des Lauriers + Kyle Chan is Back!

Episode Date: October 18, 2024

Episode 132. This week, Kristen and Luke are joined by Tucker Des Lauriers from ‘Big Brother’ as well as the one and only Kyle Chan! They talk about Tucker’s experience on Big Brother, being chosen as America’s Favorite, and an update on his love life. They also discuss how Tucker and Kyle Chan met, way before the show, and their bro-mance that followed shortly after. Kyle Chan answers questions about Luke and Kristen’s engagement ring and gives us an update on Gold Bar Whiskey!   Sponsors: Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial period at shopify.com/kristen, ALL LOWERCASE. Get 10 FREE meals at HelloFresh.com/freedoute. Follow us: @kristendoute @luke__broderick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hi, honey. Hi. We have some very special guests today. It's a twofer. It's a twofer. We have our favorite lovely Kyle Chan. Yeah. Hi, Kai. Hi. But then to really tickle your fancy, ladies and gents,

we have America's sweetheart, America's favorite Big Brother cast member. What's up, Tucker? Hey! Tucker DeLorey, everyone. Yay! We're back, baby. Thank you for the vote.

Sitting in my home, ladies. Thank you for the vote. Sitting in my home. Ladies, are you swooning? Ladies and gents, you're America's favorite. Yeah, run it up. So D all of the above. Everyone go follow him on Instagram. Get him more Insta-famous than he already is.

How many followers do you have? It's such a weird question I've never asked anyone in my life. I don't know. I'm just curious what the big brother fans are like. I think he started with like 30,000 followers and how, how many do you have now? I started with 30. So you already had like hot guy followers, like meaning you're the hot guy. So people follow you.

I had a lot of guys following me. It was great. You also had hot guys following you. Taking all the love. Yeah. Uh, it's okay. 186. Oh, yeah. It's, okay, 186. Oh, yeah.

You bounced up real fast. I remember when, well, Instagram started like after I was on Vanderpump Rules. Like we didn't have Instagram back in the day. And when I got to 20,000, I don't know, a couple years later, I was like, oh my God, is this when we get verified? Yeah, it took a long time. Wow. Yeah, it took a really long time.

Anyway, Insta. Anyway, so Tucker, it took a long time. Wow. Yeah, it took a really long time. Anyway, Insta. Anyway, so Tucker, I'm so glad you're here. Damn, you sound real nice on that. Do I? Do I sound like a sex voice? Yeah, I'm a phone sex operator on the side. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

I'm a phone sex caller on the side, so I'm just kidding. Your voice does sound familiar. Yeah, you saying honey. I remembered that. You used to call me honey. That's funny. Oh man. Dude, so Tucker, the first time I met you

was in Kyle Chan's store. Yes, sir. You gotta tell me how you guys met, because that's a question I've never asked you. Oh, wow. Okay, great. Kyle and I have been friends for like eight years, would you say?

Something like that. Damn, no shit. Yeah, around there. Before La La Land, guys, okay, I've known Kyle that long. But he made a bunch of jewelry for models and people and sent them out for people to post on Instagram. And I just got out of film school and that was like the first gift I got.

And it was sweet and it was customized, little initials and... The love necklace. Yeah, and I got a D&D from my mom because my mom's name's Dawn and my dad is Dorian. Oh, cute. And then I just wore it every day and always posted it and then you sent me another one

that was the little crystal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I did a post with that. It was sick. Oh my god. It was in like It was like, it was in like an orchid. It was really cool. And then I was out here for work, staying with my cousin, Kyle. Okay, this is exactly how my mindset was because the modeling industry, you know, can be a

little sketch. So you're always on, you're always just like, okay, yeah, people want to hang out, you know, can be a little sketch. So you're always on, you're always just like, okay, yeah, people want to hang out, but like, what do they really want? Totally. It's hot as in a lot of places. And I just watched a documentary that was like, don't let fear lead your life.

Kyle's like, let's go out for drinks. I'm like, yeah, screw it. And then he's like, oh, you're on the way. I'll pick you up. I was like, cool, strike one, let's go. And then I get in the car with him and he's got like a gift of jewelry there too. I was like, I, strike one, let's go. And then I get in the car with him and he's got like a gift of jewelry there too. I was like, I know where this is going, strike two.

Wait, I drove? No, you had Uber. Oh, okay, I rarely drive. Yeah, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, he does not. I was in the car with you driving for like the first time in eight years yesterday. I was like, this feels weird. Can I drive, dude?

And then, so then I was like, all right, strike two, he's got jewelry. And then I was like, I'm always raised just to say no twice. And if it's a third time, that could be bad or disrespectful. Same with like offering to pay for things and whatever. Yeah, yeah. Of course. It's always just like how my mind's worked. And I said no twice. And then Kyle goes like, you're an artist, right? And you cook things and whatever. I was like, yeah. He's like, do you ever give people your artwork or give them your protein bars?

And I'm like, yeah. He's like, I get what you're thinking, but I'm just a jeweler. And this is the stuff I make to like give to people. And so it's like, it's like you giving someone your protein bars. And I was like, all right, we'll erase one of those strikes, let's go.

And then we were out, we had a couple drinks. I had a pet chameleon at the time. I love crystals, I love rocks. Oh boy, here we go. You said chameleon and I was like, that's how you guys fell in bromance. Yeah, then the bromance got real. And then I know every fact about chameleons.

He knows everything about a lot of stuff that I'm very into, so it was great. And we... You guys are all like lizard dorks. All three of you. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Okay. No.

Yeah. Absolutely. And then after that, we've closed out wherever we were at. And we were walking and Kyle was like, no one can ever hang with me. And I took my shoulder bag off and I was like, hang with you. And then I did a handstand and walked down the sidewalk. And it's been a wrap ever since. Oh, wow. Yeah, he drank until 3 a.m. And then I did a handstand and walked down the sidewalk and it's been a wrap ever since.

Oh, wow. Yeah, he drank until 3 a.m. and then he can still do handstand. I said, well, then I guess you can have another drink. I literally just pictured you taking off your shoulder bag and doing handstand on Robertson. I don't know why I pictured it like just down the street from the Abbey.

Yeah, that was like right on Santa Monica in that area. I think right in front of Rocco's or something. I don't remember. Yeah, no, it was either Rocco's or like that opposite corner, right near like Hightops on that corner. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was one of those two corners. I just remember those like rounded buildings on the edge.

Hightops, yeah. Yeah, I'm good at handstands. Man of many talents, right? So people needed to know that. They needed to know that. Absolutely. And literally as soon as this comes out, it's going to be like Us Weekly. What's up, Us Weekly?

They're going to be like, five facts about Tucker Deloria. He's good at handstands. So you're going to have to take a picture of one and post it. Done. I broke a Guinness Book of World Record jump roping. You did? Yeah, during quarantine. Wait, what's the record? This is exciting. The most single leg crisscrosses in a minute.

The record was like 94 or so. I saw it on Snapchat because they would just do those random Guinness World Record things. And I was like, nah, I can beat this kid. And I just went out and tried it. And after like my second go, I had like 111 or something. And I was like, I don't know if this is real.

Let me do it again. I did it the next day. And I got like 133, I think. And I messed up. Like I had, I hit my leg in my shoe twice. So like I could probably get more. And then I submitted to Guinness Book of World Records and they're like, it will take almost like a year

if you don't pay anything, you can pay 800 bucks to get it done expedited, which is like up to four months or pay like- It's like getting your passport renewed. Yeah, or pay like 12 grand and they'll come out and like actually video you. And I was like, no, so I waited. During quarantine nonetheless.

12 grand. Everyone's like, everyone's just struggling. It was like 10 to 12 grand, it was crazy. Like if you have an extra 12 grand laying around, even though we know no one's working right now, except for us. Maybe it was six, I don't know, I'm over thinking it. But it still was a lot.

As soon as you hit like three, four zeros, I'm like nah. It's crazy. Yeah, no, and then so I waited the whole time, and then they sent me a message back. They were like, yes, but we need more evidence. So then they needed like four camera angles with like a clock in it. And I'm just, I like did it.

And then they sent another thing back saying I needed another requirement. And I was like, I sit like, okay, I will get it officially in the book one day, but not now. That was ridiculous. Well, honestly, maybe now that I'm AFP and I got this extra cash,

I'll have them come out. There you go, there you go. I don't know why they didn't just like zoom you. So they like have, you know. No, because they think like, I don't know. They're like, do it again. Do it again. Well, they need that money.

And the first time I did it, I had two camera angles too. And like, I don't know. Like you can tell it's not sped up or anything. I don't know. It was so annoying. And I'm a film major. I was like, I got this. I don't believe it.

This is awesome. I'm going to be creative. This is so cool. And then they're just trying to burst your bubble and all of your dreams by making you do it 40,000 times and still not being happy with it. Yeah, it's just a... What the hell, Guinness Book? Just a Ponzi scheme.

They're just trying to get money. That's one more thing you and I have in common. I actually broke a, unofficially broke a Guinness World Record. Let's go. And he submitted. And I submitted and they came back with me. To me it's the same thing, the $800 to be expedited, the thousands of dollars for them to send someone out.

So ridiculous. Do what mine was, the furthest bullseye. So the longest bullseye is 27 point something feet. I am so mad. And turned on right now. Dude, when I first- This is awesome, I love darts. Sorry guys, I'm freaking out. No, so when the first time

I saw it, I was in Colorado and my buddy's got a garage there. I measured out 30 feet, put down a tape. Yeah, you did. Yeah, right. 45 minutes later, I stuck that bullseye and I looked it up and you have an hour to do it. So the first time I attempted it, I got it in 45 minutes. Oh my God. So then I submitted, they got me back this my whole list of things. And I have to have a surveyor say that the ground is completely level. Like can't be an eighth of an inch off or something stupid like that.

I have to get a local darts club person to sign off that it's the official height. Isn't that making it harder if the ground's not level? Like. I mean, I don't know. I mean, there were so many different things and the outside witnesses and the four angles. And yeah. And they don't tell you everything right away.

Like, it's just, it's tough. You get one hour to throw the dots? Yes. You just need one in an hour? One time in the bullseye in an hour. Give me a chance. I'm so ready. Oh my God. I really want to do that.

Tucker, would you say you're competitive in nature? Not at all. I'm a very that. Hell yeah. Tucker, would you say you're competitive in nature? Not at all. No. A little bit? I'm a very soft, gentle flower. No, I love competition. So I have a question about Big Brother and then I wanna go like sort of backwards in time but just Big Brother.

Like, what was your game plan going in? And to be honest, like I have a couple of friends, or one really good friend and a couple of people that I know that have been on Big Brother. I too was on a competition show with someone from Big Brother. Your game plan going in, because I was taught by my friend Dan Giesling and other people.

I know him. To like not be the most outspoken. Don't win everything. Not that I was gonna win all the physical challenges, but like kind of don't be seen so hard at first or people are just, you're gonna stick out like a sore thumb. I thought that I was listening to that when I got in

and then it all went out the fucking window. So yeah, so you won a shit ton of your challenges and that's essentially what got you booted, right? Because you were a threat. Yeah, and I was calling everybody out on everything and I think everyone in there was playing the game way too safe. Oh, okay. So once in a lifetime opportunity and once everyone got in there, it was kind of like,

oh my God, let's chill. And I'm like, no, I'm trying to make the most of this moment. Even if I get kicked out, I have like a checklist of stuff I want to do in this big brother house, you know? I like that. I loved the punishment costumes because I thought everybody just hated them

and was mopey. And I was like, I will be in character the whole time I have this costume on. All my friends back home know it. Wanted to win one of every competition. And I didn't go in there to be like, wow, they're crazy. I was gonna be chill. I was modeling my thing with Joseph off of Dan,

how we doing? Let's play video games, by the way. And Dan and Ian's relationship with me and Joseph. And I just really studied the show to see what the games were, how the challenges worked, and what this whole Alliancy thing is, and how to navigate it.

And yeah, it was gonna be very slow moving. We were gonna do house votes till like week six, and like sitting still is hard for me. Yeah, so I was gonna say, so what changed once you were in, like you had this mindset, which so what changed once you were in, like you had this mindset, which you probably realized once you got in, like this isn't gonna be as easy as I imagined it to be.

Yeah, no. So it was just the fact that like, you're like, what are we all doing? This is boring if we all sit around. Yeah, if we all sit around and kind of chill, it's like. I'm trying to have a wild summer. And the fans are watching you 24 7. Yeah. Yeah.

Blows my mind still. Yeah. That you guys took it any sort of breaks. Like I'm never going to complain. This is I'm lying right now, but I'm never going to complain about shooting the valley again. Yes, I will. But like I can't imagine 24 7. Yeah. No, it's crazy. At least you don't like see any production or anything. You see nobody but the people in that house. So It is easier to forget which you guys just have like robo cams everywhere, right? Yeah. No, there's a style Yeah, there's ones all in the wall. Yeah, there's a Mike it's insane all the mirrors. There's cameras behind and everything like every like behind Behind your mirrors? Like in the bathroom? Every road is lined with mirrors. Yeah, oh yeah.

You know what's interesting to me though? It'll be like plucking your eyebrows or popping a pimple and you know, you know there's a camera right there. Like you know it. You know what's interesting to me because I've watched how Vanna Pum rules and the Valley was filmed versus Big Brother.

I feel like Big Brother, you actually, even though it's grueling, it's 24-7, but you actually have an opportunity to show who you really are. You can't fake it, you can't hide it because you'll snap and all that. But then on the other hand, with Venom Pum Rules and the Valley, you guys will film eight hours and you get 30 seconds sometimes. Right. And there's editing where like in Big Brother, there's no editing involved. Yeah, it could be tricky. What you see is what you get.

But that's in terms of live feeds. Yeah, but they edit the episodes and stuff. Of course. Like, like it was shocking. It was only a few weeks ago. People are like, oh, Cam's coming out of his shell. Look at his personality. I'm like, Cam and I are super similar.

And like after the first day in there, I heard a couple of voices he was doing, and I was like, you live alone, don't you? And he was like, yeah. I was like, me too, bro. For years. And then we just shot the shit the whole time. But yeah, it's crazy the way that they edit stuff.

You just never know. No. And some people go in there to like play a certain archetype too. And it's like, we're all friends. Like people, my friends, you know, Quinn, I'm friends with Quinn, I'm friends with Angela, I'm friends with everybody, Leah, Chelsea, everybody.

We've all been hanging out. And like I was just FaceTiming some of my friends. Quinn was in the Airbnb I got and my friends were like, you know, are you really friends with Quinn? I'm like, yeah, he's the man, bro. He's literally like you guys. It was just in there. I would try to kick you guys out if we were in there

because I know you guys are good competitors too. Like I was just trying to go after the best players and I knew that was putting a big target on me but I wanted people to just be like fearless and make the most of this opportunity. Did you think you were going to be America's favorite? I didn't even know that was a thing. Literally Rubina told me in the house

and there's video of it and stuff. And I was just like, I... And the first, Kyle, correct. Kyle just informed me of this, that you were the first Big Brother cast member that is America's favorite to not be on the jury or top 10. Which is pretty huge. Damn right, baby.

Let's go! Your personality speaks wonders. Let's go! Yeah, no. Doesn't he remind you of Danny Booko? A little bit. Yeah. Our friend Danny.

I can see that. He's on the valley with us. Yeah, he was a model and actor. I think he's his own species. It's like their personality and stuff too. People in the house thought I was like Jim Carrey's son or something. And I was like, thank you. I can see that.

Yeah, that's great. I can see it. Now that you say it, I can see it. Oh yeah, that was like one of the best compliments. I love it. I love that dude. He's hilarious. And yeah. You know, when I think about what truly drives success in a business, I realize it's often the business behind the business that makes it all possible. For example, take my own brand, James May.

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I mean, I would imagine that would be really easy because it's basically like The Bachelor, but it's not. No, I think that- It's like Bachelor in Paradise, but it's not. Yeah, I heard this before and after. They have, Big Brother has more successful relationships than like The Bachelor or any of those shows. No shit.

That doesn't surprise me. It's wild trauma bonding and an experience of a lifetime. And it's just like, ah, that was crazy. I can't believe that other seasons aren't friends. Like, even there's people like hate each other. And it's like, I mean... Reality TV is trauma-ponding. It's just crazy, yeah.

So if you're single, no further. Yeah. But you yourself had a show, man, according to Us Weekly's exclusive that I saw. No, it was a real romance, guys. It started on the show. Yeah, I know. That's what it is. Yeah, it's the showman's. Yes. With Rubina, the cutest thing ever.

She is really adorable. Yeah, she's great. I met her last night. You did? Yeah. Oh, that's so funny. At Tucker's birthday party. Yeah.

Which Tucker? I know. It's been exhausting. Where does she live? She's out here. She's in the Valley. Oh. So how are you guys going to do that if you live in New York? Are you moving to LA?

Are you going to be bi-coastal? Are you both going to be bi-coastal? We're going to figure it out because we really like each other. We're not worried about it. She actually goes to New York. Has been thinking about going over there. She's always lived here, but she has friends that Are live in the old building I used to live in so we've like both been in there before at the same time

Oh, that's wild. It's so cute. It's so wild. Yeah I feel like your mom and dad like you were raised, right? Because you're 30. Wait, did you just turn 30 or 31? 31. 31. 31. And I'm gonna read this quote. 31 years old guys. I'm at that age where I'm looking for a life partner.

And I'm always scared to take that risk. All my friends know I don't go out looking for that stuff. I go out to be with my friends and I wait for the fairy tale thing when two paths cross. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh my God, she's so lucky and that's so cute. I'm so lucky too.

It's great. It's great. That's really, really fun. Most 30 year olds don't act like that. Hey babe, how old was I when we started dating? 31. 30 fun. 31.

There it is, there it is. That's fair. That's fair. You were a different egg. Yeah, of course. I'm an oddball, I don't have as big a personality as this guy, but. I know, I'm just thinking about, you know,

the guys that I grew up with in LA that I've known. Like I moved here when I was 24, and like the guys I grew up with, Tom Sandoval, Tom Schwartz, Jax Taylor. They were like 30 when we started Vanderpump Rules. And they were not mature. To put it nicely. Fair enough. They're still looking to find their way.

Schwartz has it together but the other two… They have a different way of thinking. Thanks. That's so nice of you, Kyle. I love how Kyle is always the voice of reason. He's like, Kristen, listen. They're misunderstood. You know?

That's... It's fine. They make bad decisions. Speaking of Sandoval, real fast. Just I'm going to dip this in so we don't ever have to talk about it again. Run it up. Okay. The Reddit rumor, Bill, is so wild thinking that you are,

like you got into that Kyle Chan group, the LA group because of Tom Sandoval. And I don't understand why. And so I started looking at Reddit. Oh my God, I just downloaded the app. I hate myself. And I started looking at some of it and it's crazy how it'll go from like one person's posts.

Right? I just kind of, I read it out loud, you guys, before we started recording. And this person's like, oh, I saw on another sub that he was maybe friends with Tom Sandoval. And then all of a sudden, each comment, it's like a game of telephone, each comment gets more specific about how

you are friends with Tom Sandoval, how you've known Tom Sandoval for a really long time. We go back since we were kids. I'm like, what in the actual hell? So you debunk said rumors. Yeah, just so everyone's aware, the internet is just like the Big Brother house. It's a big game of telephone and things spread like wildfire. I…

When did I first meet Tom with Kyle when we went out or was it at the wedding in… I cannot remember. Is it at the wedding in... I cannot remember. Is it at the wedding? He wasn't the first person you knew out here. No, no, no, no, no, not at all. No, I've known Kyle forever and a number of other people around that group, but no, I've met Tom, both Toms,

a handful of times, and they're just fun, nice dudes to me, and I've never had any issues with them. And we just, if our paths cross and we're out, we'll be like, what's up? Get hugs, maybe take a shot and then. Love it. That's it. Yeah, it's great. It's great. I don't I don't think people should have hate in their hearts. But I think they're really nice dudes. They got a good relationship.

So, you know, to each their own people can make their own assumptions. No, I don't have hate in my heart. No one at this table has hate in their heart. I think that the Reddit rumor bill would love for it to be true. So America's favorite, you know, America's reality star sweetheart and America's biggest villain from, you know, I don't think he still is. But like the last couple of years. Maybe he still is. I don't know.

I don't know. I mean, he's not even on a show right now. So I think everyone should show. I think finally calm down a little bit. Wouldn't someone on like Traders or what's that other show? The House of Villains. Like wouldn't they be like someone people didn't like? I mean, aren't there other celebrities

that are like not paying child support for 15 kids? There's like a lot worse stuff going on, guys. I mean, come on. That happened a couple of years ago. Ariana's happy. Like, you know what? Let's get over it, everybody. Anyway, people make mistakes. It's cool.

It's not about Tom. I just think that I would assume that that's what the general public of the reality TV Reddit. They're like, how great would it be, though, if Tom Sandoval were like a big brother to Tucker. You know? But Tucker like took the, he took like the highway and Tom kind of like melted a little bit,

like turned to dust and Tucker then became America's favorite and look at that. Well, keep fantasizing because it's an ad for it, so have fun. Anyway, we just wanted to clear that up. There's no hate on Sandoval here, but Reddit people, not true. Let's back up a little bit, Chris.

And you said Tucker must've been raised right. So I know you've got a bunch of brothers. We talk about your childhood upbringing. Ooh, yeah. Where to start? I was raised with two other brothers, Nick and Eric. And we were crazy competitive, still are, but you know, we were three boys.

We beat the shit out of each other. We would do the wildest things. Bless your mom. Oh yeah, we broke all of their depression glass in the house, running around playing tag, like smacking into a wall, which then hit the whole thing that was holding it and it tumbled down.

She's an angel. Oh my god, my mom is a legend. Her favorite line is, Eric, why would you do that? It was always Eric. It was always Eric. Eric. No, Nick was the wild, crazy one. Eric was the wicked, smart one. And I was just the one that was like, I can do a little bit of both of these. I'm never going to be as smart as Eric, but I want to have fun like Nick,

but I don't want to get in trouble like him. And yeah, we were just, I don't know, crazy kids that we played sports. And then my dad came out his game between 2006, 2007, which kind of really subconsciously brought all of us very close, because then we could defend our dad and take our anger out that way, I guess. Yeah. And yeah, it really just pulled us all super close, close because then we could defend our dad and take our anger out that way, I guess. And yeah, it really just pulled us all super close and my family's the closest family I've still ever met. We love each other. We can, it's like we're in the Big Brother house anytime we're hanging out. It's competition in your face. It's like behind closed doors. It's mental,

it's physical and we love it. Okay, so I'm going to take a guess, and you can tell me if I'm wrong. Yeah. You started modeling as a teenager, and you would travel, one of your parents would drive you to the city for castings and whatnot. You're kind of like Tom Sandoval, I'm not going to lie, because that's what he did.

He lived in St. Louis, and not in a bad way. I'm saying, I recognize this male model actor thing. Wasn't he in a bad way. I'm saying I recognize this. He was in a male model. Wasn't he in a David Bowie thing? Or Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi even better. Yes. St. Louis and he would go to Chicago because it was the only city in the Midwest. Yeah.

You could cast. So then he crushed it in those. When did you when did you move to New York? I have been living in New York since I was like, I would take the summer and winter breaks off of high school and just like sleep on a nasty couch or whatever, just to do modeling stuff or like places that like legally shouldn't be open yet because there wasn't electricity and stuff. It was sick.

And then went to college in New York. So I looked around and got recruited to Hofstra for wrestling because I was a really good wrestler. And also another thing for my entry essay. And yeah. What was your major in college? Like what did you want to do before you became a big reality star celebrity?

Oh man, I never wanted to be a reality star celebrity. I first wanted to be a reality star. I first wanted to go to school for kinesiology and physical therapy, but at that point I learned enough to keep myself fit and others. And so I just was like, I really like movies. I've always had a camera with me. I don't know why. So I went to film school.

I studied television and film production at Hofstra University. And for like the first year and a half, I was just like, I am so stupid. I am not meant for this. Everyone there knew everything. Directors, years, actors. Like the production side of it all? Everything. You weren't vibing hard with it?

No, I just felt I was loving the school work, but everyone that was a film major like... Oh, they were still up on the pop culture. Holy shit, they knew everything, dude. And I'm like this dude who's like a model that's doing a little acting stuff. I mean, I missed so much college, but I was upfront with every teacher first.

The very first class we would have, I would stay after and tell them like, look, I'm a model, I'm doing X, Y, and Z. It's helped me pay for school. I will miss classes, but I will never be behind on my work. If you ever think it's affecting it, let me know. And then, school is my number one priority. I will reassess if you guys think I need to. Only my Spanish professor, so that was sick.

And, but no, I cross-fit, everything was great. I missed like 38 classes one semester. It's like, you fail if you miss four. So it was just, always just be honest and upfront. I'm not a college gal. I moved to Miami when everyone else went to college. I only did a few classes of college and I thought I'm going to fail in my life. Yeah, I did three semesters and I was like, nah, not for me. I smoked too much weed back then. Yeah, it wasn't for me either, but I somehow got through it.

I somehow got through it. Yeah. And as soon as I finished my degree in accounting, I got a job in sales, not in accounting, and then said, screw that. Went to waiting tables and started a business and yeah, didn't totally know. And then we all said, screw that life. Screw the nine to five, it's not for us. Yeah, no.

You always just, I always just go with the flow and listen to the universe and try to always stay open and receptive to whatever this life is trying to tell me, you know? Yeah. So what, you have more plans? As far as like, this is kind of a- What's next, Tucker? Yeah, what's next? This is have more plans? As far as like, this is kind of a, yeah, what's next? This is kind of like a launching point for you, right? I mean, people are saying, yeah,

I'm not gonna do whatever. Just taking it day by day. I do wanna act. I've been studying forever. Love it. And then, you know, I've been representing for a while and gone out for a lot of big roles. I've been casted in a few small things,

but it's kind of at that point where, just because of my height and the way I look, like it's very leading role kind of thing or heart throbby. So there's a million dudes that already are established that have those roles. So it was kind of, who was ever gonna do it was gonna take a risk because I didn't have a big following or anything.

And I mean, whoever wants to risk it for the biscuit, we're gonna be eating biscuits left and right, baby. So let's go. I know a producer with a script that I helped write. So let's talk. Never, Tucker. If you want it, you can have it.

I mean, look at your big brother dreams, who do? I didn't know that they paid people for America's favorite. Like that's so rad. $50,000. Yeah, it's favorite. Like that's so rad. Fifty thousand dollars. That's amazing. And I was and they I had the highest payment of any. There's like America voted on me to be the instigator. And if I I could have got zero dollars, five thousand, ten thousand or twenty

thousand. So I got the twenty. So I actually left with only five grand less than second place. Oh, my God. Nice. What? Yeah. Wait, that's the tits. It's like the whole reason you do it anyway is like, right?

Big Brother. It's like, obviously it is competition. So only competitive people do it because you do want the bragging rights of like, I played the fucking game. Yeah. But then let's be honest, you do it for money because duh. And a bit of notoriety, so maybe it can... Like, people start to know you.

So whatever it is you want to do in life after that. I mean, I'm not going to lie, it's why I did reality TV. Yeah, absolutely. Certainly wasn't for my mental health. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Nope. But that's really cool.

I hope we have another season of The Goat. I think Tucker would be really good on The Goat. I love that show. Are you aware of The Goat? That's hilarious. The Goat is a competition show on Amazon that I was on. But it's all reality TV people that are put into a house, a mansion. We filmed in Georgia, but I had a big brother person.

We had people from The challenge, survivor winner, and then like Bravo people. It was like a real mix. I got to get on my reality TV because I suck. I never really watched it. But I think you would be a lot of fun on the go. Yeah. Or Traders.

Is there one show you watch you'd love to be on? I don't watch any of them. That's the problem, but I've been hearing a lot about them and I've done a little research on them and like the challenge can get it, dude. I will crush that. That's the one that scares me the most. Oh, that one's sick.

And I just met some people from Summit and they're like, it's crazy. I was like, sounds like a good cup of tea to me. But like I I've recently grown a big obsession for reality stuff, obviously. And I have a million shows I want to watch, but it's been so overwhelming getting out and trying to stay relevant with what's going on in the house and to watch past episodes because people ask me about it and I have no idea what goes on in the episodes. So...

You basically have to get the flu or you're not going to be able to catch up on reality TV. Yeah, no, I'm going to be sick starting tomorrow once I get home. Yeah, yeah. I'm sick for a week for sure. Sick and you broke your phone. I think you're a lot. I think you'll be good at Traders.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah, Traders is... Traders is... I'm learning more about Traders because I compared Traders to House of Villains without really knowing much about either one. And now I understand that Traders is a lot more like Big Brother than it is anything else.

House of Villains is just a hot mess. But Traders, like, it takes that, the social game, and like, you have to really be, I don't want to say conniving, but like... Convincing. Convincing, yeah. Yeah, cool. I'm down. Yeah, I just, yeah.

I'm down for any offer that comes my way and I'll just assess it after it's there. Would you do Survivor? Yeah. Yeah, Rubina and I were talking about our amazing race. Oh, amazing race would be so cool if you guys did it together. Yeah, yeah.

I was also talking with my brother about it. He was, she was like, I could maybe do that. Oh, like a family one? Yeah, yeah, so. Either or, run it up. I have a friend who did a family one. Stassi did it when she was 19. Oh, yeah.

Oh, wow. She didn't look the same as she does now, but yeah. Yeah, all of those shows seem like they would be a lot of fun. Yeah, absolutely, yeah. No, I think every single one of them would be fun. And now that I've been on one and like my just- He's hooked. My general, yeah, I think every single one of them would be fun. And now that I've been on one and like my just... He's hooked.

My general, yeah, I'm hooked. And my general overall like respect for anyone that does it is through the roof. Speaking of that, was it cool for you or not? I don't know, or interesting for you as someone who at first you did want to be a film major. You were obviously in school for this and learning about production.

Like, because for me, learning about the production side as long as I've been doing reality TV, to me is so fascinating. And it's something I never thought of before I was on television. Never crossed my mind. Yeah, I was obsessed. I was like, wait, for this camera guy to get here,

he has to come in from there and do this and that. I really wanna see the behind the scenes. I was drooling over it. I was shooting this shit with the dudes in the DR a lot. And yeah, it was just, it was great, you know? And I know, I know like when I was on there, I would be talking and have a lot more pauses in my speech, just cause I know it's easier to edit that way

so that they would have points to cut at. And it was a great relationship. I like to break that fourth wall for our listeners and just for fans of the shows that I've been on. To me, it's not taking the magic away from it because it is still a television show, right? But it's also like, our viewers aren't stupid. Oh, no. So there are really important people

who make these television shows happen. And I think it's just really fascinating to be a part of that as well. So there are really important people who make these television shows happen. And I think it's just really fascinating to be a part of that as well. No, yeah. And like being a film major, you know, everyone says, and I've done a lot of photo shoot sets and stuff. Everyone's the classic saying, it takes a village. Well, they got a city in there and it still is organized and moving smoothly. It's crazy. Hatch is completely off to them. It's amazing production.

There's so many moving parts and so much work and so much footage to go over. I would die. It blows my mind that you all are just there, that you don't leave at all and you don't get to even, like you can't even have a glass of wine. No alcohol, right? No, they like, only on like special occasions

would you get it. And if it was like the whole house, it would be like two bottles of wine and a six pack. Damn. And it would be like, Kimo and I would be like, where can we stash one of these bottles of wine right now? Like, there's no way. Yeah, it's kind of like you're like in the pandemic with a bunch of people you don't know. Oh, yeah. You can't leave the house, but you can't postmates or anything.

Oh, no, you can't can't anything electronic. Absolutely not. You can't even have watches in there. There's like one clock. Which you don't even know if it's correct. Oh, I pointed that out. The very first day we were in there, I said to everybody, I was like, look, you see what time that says? That might not even be the real time. That's like how much you sign off on this contract. And you can't see outdoors. You really don't know if it's like daytime or nighttime.

No, yeah. And I was saying to him, I was like, so just so we know guys, we all went through the same process. We know how hard it was. We know all the things that went down. So we all know we're good people. So let's just remember that

and remember that this is a game and it's a game that's meant to push you to the limits mentally, physically, and emotionally. So let's always remember that it's a game that's hardwired to make people lose control. And I think we all did a great job at keeping our cool and always reminding each other it's just a game when people would be coming after one another. Yeah, that's a really good point.

I wonder, I feel like everyone would go in being like, I got this, it's a game, I've studied, I've done my due diligence, I've watched it. And then you get in there and I can imagine that people will take certain things personally or it would just shift. Or your things happen that are just, or people act in ways that it's like, I'm sure a lot of people were like, I've never seen someone act as crazy as me. Kenny was pointed out and stuff.

So it is like, it's hard adjusting. And it's like you, you're just around a whole mix of energies that you might not have ever been around or last time was like middle school or like chosen to be around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's wild. Exactly. Yes. Wow. Then you just have to be like, okay, everything's going to be okay. Like every time I was swimming, I was just fucking screaming under the water. I was like, this place sucks. And then I was fine. And it didn't. The place was beautiful. It's great. It's just like,

it's just you like, if you don't- Oh, it's taxing for sure. Everyone had their own moments where it was like screaming in pillows or like just need to be alone or just like- So there's no break, there's no day off. There's no, nothing like that the whole time. Oh no. Oh my God, that would be crazy.

Every single day. We had a day off on the go. We had every Sunday off, which was lovely. Nope, not at all. You have your wake up time, you have your bedtime and like lights don't go off unless We had every Sunday off, which was lovely. Every day. Nope. Nope, not at all. You have your wake up time, you have your bedtime, and lights don't go off unless almost everyone's in the bedroom. And you can't listen to your AirPods, you can't play games to go to bed.

No. What do you do? Count sheep? You don't have a deck of cards, you don't even have dice. What? No games. Yeah, we had a bumper pool table. Just dead silent?

Can you have a noise machine? No, you just go against each other. No, because it's made to force or extra stimulate conversation. I would be kicked off by production if I were on Big Brother like day one. Like our number three, they would be like, this bitch is so needy. We've explained you can't have any of this. Now that's what I would like try to find the loophole. I'm like, what about? No, that's what you think.

And then when you were there, though, they know everything. They've experienced every type of person. And they would just know exactly what to say to get you back in shape. I mean, I would walk in and they would say, no, you can't Amazon things. And I was like, that's it. I'm done. I'm the first one. Everyone vote me off. OK, bye. No, I can't handle it. Yeah, you you that's you can't though. You can't be like, that's it, I'm done. I'm the first one off. Everyone vote me off, okay, bye. No, I can't handle it. Yeah, you can't though.

You can't be like, vote me out. You always have to be campaigning. You gotta like- Kristen will be the one who's knocking on that double-sided window. On the window. Excuse me. On the mirror.

She can be like, I know you're in there. I know you're in there, I need this. I want some hug in us, like right now. Please, please. So, Kylie, are you the next Big Brother contestant? I don't know. I've actually been asked a couple of times and then I didn't know he was going to be in... Like, Tucker didn't tell me because he didn't want to tell me unless he's really in.

I was scared to tell anybody because it's just like... I just... You're not supposed to. It's a big secret. And if that does leak, you don't get to do the show. Totally. I just told my mom and my mom calls me the next day,

she's like, I just told my sisters, okay, now this person knows. Oh, I had to tell my neighbor and I'm like, mom, I have two weeks to just like, just stop. Your mom is like my mom. I don't tell my mom anything because I know it's going on Facebook. And then she's like, oh my God, I'm sorry.

I wasn't even thinking. No, you weren't mom. No, I kept being like, just don't post anything anywhere. Like delete your texts. I don't know how intense these people are. Like, I don't know. It was, it was scary, but in a good way. Yeah. So I remember they asked me and then I came home

and I told my boyfriend, James, I'm like, Oh, they asked me if I want to be a big brother. And he's like, what did you say? I said, they told me he's 90 days. I said, no, I can't do 90 days. And James was freaking out. He was like, no, you say? I said they told me it's 90 days. I said no, I can't do 90 days and James was freaking out He was like no you got to do it He loves Big Brother's he watched 26 seasons and I watch it by default and

Then the craziest thing is he told me you cannot live. I don't think you'll make it because of the half-nots I'll let you explain the half-nots. Oh Yeah, being a have-not's crazy, I volunteered for it right away because I wanted to start it in the trenches and always get my… Sounds like a Dr. Seuss thing or something. You can only eat oats and protein powder and you can have like water, milk, coffee. But that's… Sounds like squid games.

Literally it. It is. With condiments and spices, that's it. You can't even squeeze like a lemon in water. Like you can't do that. Like, so... What if you had a gluten allergy? They have gluten free.

See how I'm looking for a loophole? No, no, no. It's literally... And the bed? Oh yeah, and then the beds. We had the best, luckiest have-not. It was just a wood box, like hard wood box with one comforter that's like,

it's open. Wait, why do you have to, why are you punished into these things? That's just part of the show. There's have-nots like every week or every other week. So people are like- What makes, like why do you have to be one? It's just a thing.

Everyone goes through it? No. Like hazing? Like you people, when we were done after a week, it is like hazing. We then voted for the next people. And then sometimes there's competitions where the first four to lose are have-nots.

If you are one, can you be one again? Yeah. Oh, so really you could get away with never having to be it. I would pay people off. People got away with never having to be it and Kimo was it like three times. Oh, I would be making IOUs so hard. I'm like, I'm just hanging out here.

I will fucking bet. They don't even turn off the light. $5,000 the second we, don't make me sleep on a box. Yeah. The lights is on 24 seven. The box was the easiest. They've had people sleep in bumper cars, which if you're over like five, nine, that's not comfy.

Like that's your bed or like a slide that's at like a 15 degree angle with bumps in it. The like anti sleeping benches in the parks with the extra bumps on it, like a dental chair, like those have been other people's have not. Couldn't you use your, I'm trying to think outside the box guys, couldn't you use your clothing, like sweatpants and sweatshirts,

and then you, that would be so comfy. I've had to sleep on really shitty planes before. If you have all your clothes, cause they have to, you have to get, like you get your clothes after you're in there cause this has to get tested and stuff for the cameras. What? So I only had a jean jacket.

I didn't have a sweater or anything. So it's like not comfy. Not cool. So if you could do it over, would you even bring a jean jacket or would you bring all cozy clothes? Well, yeah, I did bring all cozy clothes. I just didn't have them at the time of being a have-nots.

I'm saying though, but if you were to do Big Brother again, would you bring said denim jacket? Oh yeah, that denim jacket's legendary. Definitely bring it. Just because it's cute. Yeah. I feel like now Big Brother might want you to be on, Kristen, because of how challenging it is.

I think they would like to see you suffer. But I would quit. Like, I am a quitter. I am not that competitive. I choose happiness over making myself crazy. You never know. Maybe they want you to knock on that double-sided glass. If they would let me Amazon Prime things and have my AirPods or like a sound machine at night,

then I could maybe do it for a few weeks. Wait, wait, wait. I heard the Celebrity Big Brothers, only two weeks or three weeks? Maybe you can make it. I did get a little notice about that many, many years ago. Yeah. Oh my God. In the UK for Celebrity Big Brother. Do it.

And I didn't do it because I really just didn't know anything about it. Because you're a quitter. I didn't know anything about And I didn't do it. Because I really just didn't know anything about it. Because you're acquitted. I didn't know. I didn't know anything about my brother at the time. I'm talking like a long time ago. Yeah. Tucker, I'm just like you, man. I'm waiting for any and all competition shows.

Sign me up. Run it up. If you want me, I want it. I like things that I can manipulate, though. If I get an offer, I'm going to be like, only if I'm with you and you do the same. We'll do a package deal. Let's do it. Yeah.

I don't feel that I could manipulate my brother. Right after we beat the Darts World Record, you know, back to back. How could they resist us if we beat that, you know? We got to start there. I think they probably only want one of these people for the entire crowd. And the rest of the people, they want people who can't handle that. Right. Otherwise, the TV is not going to be fun. Oh, no, the TV is going to be fun.

You need contestants that can't make it. The TV is going to be fun. Yeah. You want TV is going to be fun. You need contestants that can't make it. You want to watch them suffer and fail. Yeah, people like that. That's reality TV. And then you want a good comeback, King or Queen. Everyone needs a hot mess, right? They want to see somebody.

Everyone needs an Angela, you know? Amazing. Oh, it's so funny. Amazing. Amazing. Oh, it's so funny. So I think a lot of people would love to know, how do you go about getting on this? Is there anything that you know that people can do to increase their chances to get on Big Brother?

That's a good question. I know you can apply to get on the show and if anyone gets into, I mean, you can always just pester people. I'm sure you guys can figure it out. Back in the day, people used to like knock and ask for a job at places. So now you just do that electronically. But the best advice I can give is to just be 100% yourself. They don't want you to be professional

or on your best behavior in there. You just be yourself. Fucking throw some swear words out there. Do funny voices. Do whatever it is that makes you you. be yourself. Fucking throw some swear words out there. Do funny voices. Do whatever it is that makes you you. And that's probably the best advice. Authenticity.

Yeah, authenticity is key. Be a three-dimensional human being. Show all the sides and the facets. And be you. Don't try to be anyone else that's been on that show. Just 100% you. I bet a lot of people do that. Like, they study so much, and then they go in being like,

I'm gonna be like this person who was really popular whether they want or not. And oh my god, the casting process, they must just be like garbage, garbage, garbage. So many people. Man, actually. Authenticity is really where all, in my opinion, like all reality TV is at though. You know when you watch like a really, no offense to lifetime, but like a really shitty movie, like TV movie, meaning not necessarily the script is bad, but like there's one bad actor or actress and it's because they're not being authentic. Like they're reciting lines essentially or

they're trying to be the real estate agent or they're trying to be the nurse and that's how you, like a good actor is being authentic in their character. And same thing with reality TV. You can call bullshit a mile away when you watch all reality TV. Yep, 100%. I really like that. That was a great way to break it down. Thank you so much. Hell yeah.

Let's shift over to Kyle a little bit before we wrap this thing up. Kyle, we haven't really talked much since I proposed to Kristen. We've been gone so much. Yeah. This is the first time I come to your house. Which is wild. Yeah. This is the first time I come to your house. Which is wild. Yeah.

Yeah, you could be. Nice swimming pool. You were out of town for our housewarming party, weren't you? I think I'm… Yeah, I was in Hawaii. Yeah, that's so wild that you haven't been over here, Kyle. Yeah. Well, okay.

So Kyle, one thing I definitely want to bring up is… I believe Sheena claimed that Kris and her have the same exact ring that you made one for. Is it the same ring? Um… I'm not… It's not the one that you made. But the same exact ring that you made one for her. Is it the same ring? I'm not sure. It's not the one that you made, but you made her first ring. No, I made her first Morganite ring. And I think somehow,

I think another company might reach out to her and then make her second ring. So she sent me a picture. It looks identical. I have no idea. Yeah, it's really similar. It is really similar. She told me that too. Very, very similar. But not on purpose. Some people, we just have have no idea. Yeah, it's really similar. It is really similar. She told me that too.

Very, very similar. But not on purpose. Some people, we just have the same taste. Yeah. I mean, it's a gorgeous ring. She has good taste. If I were everyone else, I would want it too. Trust me.

It's all I do is stare at it all day long. How's Goldbar whiskey doing? Goldbar whiskey is amazing. So we are in... I think we're in Switzerland now. We are going to hit Korea very soon. And we just did an interview from my hometown. It's TVB.

They're the number one TV channel in Hong Kong. They just came and have an interview with me. That's so exciting. Yeah, so my dad was actually very excited for the first time because most of the things that I did, it's in America. So it's the first time I've ever done an interview in Chinese, in our home, you know, hometown. So he was really proud. He was really happy. And Tucker happened to land on the same day that when I was doing the interviews, it was a lot.

He crushed it though. I heard like… I was sweating. 30 minutes of it. Yeah, it was a lot. He crushed it though. I heard like 30 minutes of it. Because I moved here for 36 years, even though I have an accent. But Chinese was my first language, but then all of the terms and difficult vocabularies are all in English that I have. So this is the first time I needed to do an interview in Chinese only. So it was quite tricky for me. Right. Even though you are fluent, but it's not like you're using it all the time. Yeah. There's a lot of words that I don't even know what it is. So it was, it was fun. It was very, um, it was very happy. It's a happy moment. Absolutely. Very fulfilling.

Yeah, because all of these TV people, they were like, the production people, it's like, Oh my God, you guys, you must be, we're so proud of you. You're from Hong Kong, blah, blah, blah. So it was a good moment. Very cool. And we are bringing Go-Bao Whisky to Hong Kong. And the owner was just in Europe. He said they're getting it in there also. We're getting into a big distributor and retailer soon, but I can't disclose until we're in. But we will keep you guys posted.

Yes. So I'm very excited to bring Go-Buy Whiskey and now we are already at Lensfast Bar at Beaches Tropicana also. Hell yeah. Darren Criss Bar. Tramp Stamp Granny already have them. Amazing. Wow.

That's so cool and exciting. I'm so proud of you. Taking over one bar at a time. Yeah, you couldn't just do the jewelry and have your awesome store on 3rd Street West Hollywood. You're like, what's next? Actually, I didn't really plan that much things because I feel like all of my friends are reality TV star, like well respected and they're very smart and they have so much following. So for me as a minority already 49 years old openly gay man to get us, you know, to score

a whiskey deal like this, it was just once in a lifetime. And I'm very, very honored and grateful and happy. And just did a good job going with the flow and listening to the universe. It was a perfect collaboration for you. It absolutely was. I mean, for your store, for you personally, I could not have drummed it up. And when you first told me about it, I'm like, that's the exact collaboration that you should be doing. Right?

That was perfect. Brilliant. So I'm so stoked and I'm so happy. Because we had a blast when we were in San Francisco at the Gold Bar Whiskey Party. Yeah. Yes. Everyone saw that. It was the band Pump Rules. We gotta do it again. Maybe we'll bring Luke and Tucker together. That would be fun.

Yeah. And you. Yeah. Boom. All of us. Let's do it. I love together. That would be fun. And you. All of us. Let's do it. I love it. Well, next time anyone out there listening is in Los Angeles, you gotta stop by Kyle's store and see the gold bar wall and see all of his amazing jewelry and rocks and everything.

Kyle's store is like my second home out here. It's true. And if you can't come to LA and you go on his website, you'll see me on his website too. Let's go! Good that I have you ready before Big Brother. Yeah, she can have me whenever. Oh, you guys, this was really fun. Thank you guys.

I love it so much. Um, well, you guys know where to follow me and Luke and Kyle and Tucker. Where can they follow you on all the platforms if they don't already? Okay, you guys ready? It's I really like puzzles RLY on Twitter. It's TSDELURIE. So I'll spell it out. Everyone's like you should switch it. But I like my last name. It's your name. T S D E S L A U R I E R S D-E-S-L-A-U-R-I-E-R-S on Instagram. And then my cameo, run up the cameos. If you guys want some crazy, wild, funny, goofy things. Or you want to have talk, you love it or roast someone.

It's hilarious. It's tucker.deloria. D-E-S-L-A-U-R-I-E-R-S. And yeah. Wait, wait, wait. Didn't you beat the Demure Girl on cameo? I was, I made it to 10. That was the 10th in the world last month for a couple days.

Wow. Damn. I ended at like 14 or 16, and right now I'm at like 70, but I have like 30 more cameos to do. Guys, sorry it's overwhelming, but I get to them and they're always gonna be working, I promise. That's a full-time job. Holy shit, yeah.

Amazing. I had to wake up hungover the other day at like eight and I'm just like, yo, I'm so sorry. I look like shit, but I am not losing this streak, guys. So I'm just, yeah, I had to keep doing it. It's great. Hell yeah. Well, yeah, thanks again, keep doing it. It's great. Oh yeah. Well, yeah, thanks again, guys.

Thank you. This was a lot of fun. So much fun. Love it. Get back to it. America's favorite and my favorite friend. Okay guys, well, thanks so much for listening and we will talk to you soon.

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