Sex, Love, and What Else Matters - It All Happened – Last Night on VPR S11 E8

Episode Date: March 21, 2024

Episode 97. In this episode, Kristen and Luke recap Vanderpump Rules Season 11 Episode 8, “Peaks and Valleys”. Also, the transition to “The Valley”…. GOOSEBUMPS! More to come on that in future episodes! Sponsors: Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code Doute Follow us: @kristendoute @luke__broderick Email us: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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season 11 episode 8. This one's Peaks and Valleys huh? Wonder why they named it that? I don't know, wonder why. I don't know but I hope that everyone that watched it also watched the valley. Yeah. What an iconic transition. That transition was so good. Kristen got goosebumps all over her body

I did and we were watching it. It was pretty cool. We'll talk about it at the end Let's jump into the VPR of it all we are halfway through Vanderpump rules season halfway through well aside from the reunion But we are getting there. So this episode is interesting. I actually found it a little more entertaining. Tom Sandoval is like comedic relief. I think some of the awkwardness is so funny. You were giggling. I was giggling. It was good.

I've also, hate or not, you can hate me if you want, but gotten to know Tom better. And aside from antics and public perception, I do think he means well. It just doesn't have his head wrapped around the way some things are perceived sometimes, which I'm guilty of at times as well, that I can definitely come off very brash

and very literal and it gets taken the wrong way and not the way I meant to deliver it. Well, let's, I really quick, so we do those, like, our van der Pomp always opens with like, they're brushing their teeth and they're doing this and like, you know, cutie little summer moons picking out her dress, right? But I just had to stop and make a comment about Tom Schwartz putting on his teeth whitening

strips with his like mud mask on and then girl Jo is there and her banner says, Tom Schwartz's friend who totally does not live with him. Oh, it's so funny. What an yeah. It reminded me of like a bachelor banner or bachelor in paradise banner, where they're like Daniel Canadian or like so and so wishes they were an influencer or whatever it is, you know? Exactly. The funny banners. I love it. It's hysterical.

So this season opens up at Tom and Ariana's house. This episode. Yeah. Episode. Yes. Episode on Crippans. At the pool party. So this season opens up at Tom and Ariana's house this episode. Yeah At the pool party Tom's getting ready to have a pool party and This shit is just awkward the whole episode how they're like now they're finally showing what it's really like when Tom and Ariana are Cohabitating but not speaking Because they're in the house at the same time a few times on this episode So Thomas's pool party Ariana's facetiming with Katie about her dinner that Katie's getting ready to go to dinner with Lala and

It's just like so awkward like the pool party is happening people are coming over and then Ariana goes downstairs Like kind of side eyes out of her sunglasses and leaves. I would be like so freaking uncomfortable if I'm, number one, living with an ex is just weird. I did it with Tom for like a very short period of time. But like you're in your own home and you go downstairs and there's a party full of, I don't even know who half those people were and you just have to like go, okay, well go have fun at your party at my house.

Kyle Chan is like probably the only one I knew. Oh yeah. And we'll throw this out before we get further is that I was also invited to this. And yeah, Kristen essentially talked me out of going. Yeah, I mean, I said, you can always do whatever you want, but I was like, this is not a good idea. And I'm really glad you did not go.

And becoming like, now that I'm on TV or whatever, I do look to Kristen for some advice. I don't have a publicist. I don't have someone or a manager or someone being like, Hey, that's not a good idea because of, you know, for these reasons, cause he's really pretty hated person right now being seen with him might not be good for your image. It's not even that so much that I felt. It was more that like Ariana's my friend. This is really messy. Also, they are filming Vanderpump Rules. I don't know what the hell is going on in Vanderpump Rules land while they're filming. And looking back now in hindsight, like had you been there with a bunch of freaking strangers and Kyle Chan like you're there with your friend

But all these strangers a girl's topless in the pool. No, no, no, no Look Kyle Chan told me there's a ping pong table and he wanted to play ping pong with me over there So I was like, you know, that actually sounds pretty fun. Yeah, but I'll be damned. I'll be damned So I'm glad you didn't go so this pool party the talk that the toms have is a you know a little awkward and obviously Schwartz is trying to be as Sandoval says diplomatic in this situation. He is Trying to be the one kind of bringing people back together Schwartz is still Sandoval's friend at the same time. He doesn't want to be burning bridges by being just his friend, right? Right. It's like he's trying to be Schwartz is trying to be Switzerland, but also the Kumbaya circle leader.

Right. So anyway, they have their talk, Schwartz leaves. Well, and Schwartz says, I can't be your wingman. Ariana lives here. You cheated on your ex-girlfriend. Your ex-girlfriend still lives here. And you're bringing girls over to the house that you both share.

And Schwartz is like, this is like muddy waters. Like I can't do it. I'm not getting stuck in this quicksand, which is really smart of Tom, Schwartz. Yeah, that makes sense. I see his side of things. But then there was a weird part for me where Billy Lee is like sitting next to Sandoval

in the hot tub. And then I think they were in the hot tub or in the edge of the pool. And she's like introducing Tom to like, I think she said it was her girlfriend or like her friend that's a girl I couldn't remember. But then she says in this really like sexual sounding voice, she was like, so like what's going on?

Like, or who else is coming over? Is there gonna be an after hour situation? I'm like, what? And Sandoval even goes, no, like we can't really be out, stay up too late and like, you know, have crazy time because Ariana and da da da da. And the way I took it was like, are we going to have a wink wink after our situation with the girls you're bringing over and then the people that are here?

And I don't know, it just really, it made, I felt ick. I felt ick from head to toe. It did seem a little bit of a push to be more dirty. Yeah, and I don't know if I even believed it or if she was just trying to like sound that way on television. It was just really weird. So they cut back, this is they're cutting back and forth between right Katie and Lala's lunch and their lunch we can sum it up pretty quick. They're at the Henry. They both apologize. They're back to being friends. Right. They're basically saying like you hit below the belt. Well, you hit below the belt. They're back to being friends. Right.

They're basically saying, like, you hit below the belt. Well, you hit below the belt. Lala acknowledges that she needs to be more gentle. She feels that sometimes Katie's on this war path. And I think they're both kind of acknowledging that even though they might have the best of intentions, especially Katie saying to Lala, it's like that, or maybe vice versa, but that the intentions are not mirroring what the actions are.

You know what I mean? So they're both saying like, well I felt this way, but they're still like popping off at each other. And then Lala as she's saying like, I would like to be more gentle Katie, she's also asking Katie to be more soft with her. I don't feel Lala is very gentle these days,

but maybe that's a personal thing. However, I mean, it does show they're obviously willing to acknowledge their own things and they came to an agreement and that's a personal thing. However, I mean, it does show they're obviously willing to acknowledge their own things and they came to an agreement and that's that. So they're good now. Yeah. So back to the party. Yeah, back to the party.

Well, really quick, I have to make this comment. I don't know if you noticed this or not, but when Schwartz is, or I'm sorry, when Sandoval is talking about how it's not easy for him to like talk to girls because it's been so long and He doesn't you know know how to I don't know if he said flirt But he was just like I don't know how to like get back But get back on the horse kind of a thing and I just kept thinking of back in the day when I first started Hanging out with Tom Sandoval like how 16 plus years ago or something, like about 16 years ago, he had Tony Robbins DVDs all over his bedroom and books, and he would tell me how he would approach girls,

and you never stand square onto them. You always stand at a 45 degree angle so you don't look so confrontational or as if you're really truly hitting on them. He had all these weird little ways ways and then he makes that dumb joke about how I crushed the potato chips and like slide them under the door. Tom, get a new joke. I've been hearing that joke for 16 years.

It's just like these fucking dad jokes that he has that everyone's like, ha ha ha ha. I'm like, it's not funny. I don't think people have the same experience as you do. I did not think that was a funny joke. It was awkward. So I chuckled at the awkwardness. So it made you laugh. What made me laugh was the reaction, like the production of it.

Like the way showing the girl's face is their reactions to his jokes and him jokingly be like, yeah, so if I told you about my roommate, that whole conversation, I was like, oh my goodness. Sorry, I did kind of jump to the end of that but for those of you that watch it's like how it started He's like, oh you see it text It says Michelle and then like these young very young looking girls blonde cute tiny girls walk in

Yeah, that's what he says like so told you guys about my roommate No, it's max. Yeah, it's my ex. I like ten years of like ten years and I cheated on her but you know Hey, I've been married but I might get married in the next year. Who knows? Oh yeah, that's what he said. I might be married by next year and we're all just sitting here going, what the fuck is going on right now? No, it's hilarious because it is showing him trying to flirt and it's not landing great.

And then the awesome interview clip of him saying, you know, I think I'm, you know, it's like riding a bike. I think I'm getting back his mojo back. It was just so funny. Such great comedic relief. Oh my gosh. Other people might just be grossed out by it. I thought it was funny. Yeah. But then, so the party kind of that's it. That's what we see of the, of the sexy single pool party that Ariana likes to call it. And now we're back. We're still kind of, we're back at Tom and Ariana's house. And Sheena comes in and Ariana's telling her about this sexy single pool party as Ariana likes to call it.

And Sheena and Ariana have this conversation. Like, Ariana sort of just ripped the bandaid off and says, like, I've heard that you're upset with me. I heard that you're mad at me. And Sheena's kind of like saying that she's not as upset as she was then, that she had some feelings, she had to vent them out. And it feels like they're kind of like, now that there's not a lot of noise around them and people's opinions, they're able to just have this one-on-one conversation. And Ariana says,

I should have told you. And Sheena says, I'm not as upset as I kind of was in the moment. Yeah, and that makes sense. They ultimately talk it out and they talk about Tom and the big thing for Ariana is she feels that Sheena Really wants her friendship back with Tom, right? And and Sheena says she does miss the Tom that she was friends with and Ariana's like even acknowledges like of course that person was great But that there for Ariana, there are no glimpses of that person anymore. Oh, and that makes sense. I absolutely understand that side of things as well. I do love the ghost. The movie ghost, whoopee, Goldberg quote. She goes, you in danger, girl. So good. Oh, that's funny.

You want to jump to Tom and Joe? Oh, God, let's jump to Tom and Joe. This is just the awkward of the awkward of the awkward of episodes. You know, I guess the thing that really, I'm starting to feel bad for Joe now. Yeah. Tom saying he could probably marry Joe and be happy, but that's not where he is in life.

Like that line has to sting. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's tough. And then he also, so he says that but right before that, or right after, I can't remember when they're getting ready to get on the boat and they're talking about turtles because that's just who Tom and Joe are. So you do get to see like how they have like similar personalities and similar similar quirkiness and all of that. But then in the same breath, he says, without knowing that much about you, you would have

a turtle. But then he's like, I could see us getting married without knowing that much about you. It's just like such a weird juxtaposition for me. I mean, I get being able to have that vision early on in like a flirtatious infatuation type stage being like, oh, I could see myself being with this person for sure without knowing you better. Welcome to the bachelor. Exactly. Without knowing you better. 100%.

The turtle story, I hate to call it out, but that did not seem like a real story at all. It kind of seemed like a Jax Taylor story where you just kind of had a turtle, but now here's this embellished. Yes, exactly. There was a story I've never heard. I'll tell you that. There was like there are aspects of it that were true,

but it made a better story if she was walking and it fell into a sewer and now it's a ninja turtle like that is hilarious More funny of a story, but I think the only true part maybe that she had a turtle I don't know. Yeah, maybe I don't know for sure, but that's how it felt to me I'm just saying i've never heard that story. Yeah, whatever. So then um joe tells Schwartz that she's going to go hang out with Ali, and she wants to know about her birth chart as well. She needs to know what is written in the stars for her. And then it made me like, I'm not going to lie, it made me like clench, like all like my vagina, my butthole, like my hands, my mouth, my armpits, everything just tensed up when she was doing an interview bite. And she calls Katie Tom's jealous ex.

And I'm like, oh honey, oh honey, you, I wish I could rewind the tape and take that away. You don't know Katie well enough to know, and as we see at some point, like Katie brings up the text that Joe sent her when Katie announced, Katie and Tom announced their divorce, where she was like, I love you. Bieber loves you.

Like, I'm here for you. You're such a sweet soul. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And then like five seconds later, she moves it or, you know, temporarily goes and stays with Tom Schwartz. But she's calling Katie a jealous ex. Katie's not jealous of Joe. I'll tell you that right now.

Katie could appear maybe to the viewers as a jealous ex. I don't see it that way. I just think Katie's still has a lot of feelings. She's still salty about Tom. And when she's like, so we broke up and now that is what you're, this is what's happening. Right. And you know, it just has to be amplified and that much harder being in the same

friend group and work group, you know, it's like, she can't like, none of them can get away from it. Exactly. It's not like you can't like none of them can get away from it exactly It's not like you can just completely unplug you don't move across the country and go do something else it's not like oh, I found another group of friends that gives me a break from Being around this all the time you still have to see it all the time and being together as long as they were they were Together for more than a decade, right? Yeah. Yeah, so that's like it's not not just a jealous ex. I totally agree. I just, I thought that was like pretty shitty a

thing for Joe to say when you're suddenly given this tiny little platform to be on a show that Katie has been on for a billion years, you know. Exactly. It just seemed bratty, but anywho. Does the craziness of everyday life leave you stressed and shedding? If you have kids, have you started seeing a little more of your scalp? Maybe menopause impacted your hormones and your hairline. And when it comes to thinning hair, there are many root causes at play, and Nutrifol addresses them through a multi-targeted whole body approach. Nutrifol is the number one dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement with over 1 million

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So Brock was obviously with Summer is what we're guessing because Brock wasn't there. And literally right when Luke goes, wait, where are they at right now? And I was like, oh, they're at the Belmont. And then we start seeing everyone trickle in and then we see Katie and Ariana trickle in. And Luke, do you remember what you said? This is going to be fun. You go, oh, this is going to be fun. I said this might be my favorite episode of the season so far. Oh my God, it was so awkward. And then Sandoval is obviously trying to be nice and complimentary to people.

And he's like, Hey, Katie, I like your hair. And she just does this like rolling eyes thing at him. She says thanks. Yeah. And then like kind of shifts away. Yeah. She says thanks. It's like then just kind of shifts away. Yeah. She says, thanks. It's like almost saying, I know.

It's kind of reminiscent of trying to talk to Jax for the first year that I met him. I'd say something, try to start a conversation, one word response, and fade away. Yeah. It's like, OK. Awkward. It's all that little awkward.

Yeah. And then obviously, as I said, Ariana comes in. No one's really expecting Ariana to be there at all. And everyone's like very surprised by this entrance. But Ariana says like, this is a group thing. This is obviously the bar that we call it kind of like our cheers. It's like the place that we've always gone forever since I've lived in LA. So she says like, this is a moment where she's like, I can't let Tom affect the rest of my life, which I thought was a nice little leaf that Ariana turned that she's not going to be home alone when all of her friends are out and it's in a public place. So she feels that

she can handle this. Right. I completely get it. There can be someone you don't like, or you have a visceral reaction to, at least for me, can be in the same public space. It doesn't mean you have to interact with them. And you can, you know, everyone moves off in their little bubbles and their little circles. They have their conversations and everything. And that's, yeah, it can be done. And I think, I think it always, especially right now, should and can be up to Ariana

what she chooses to go and do. Like I've, Luke, as you know, you've been with me where I've been in that situation. Sheena had a birthday party. It was at a rooftop hotel and I found out James Kennedy was gonna be there. I purposefully do not go places that I know he will be, but am I gonna miss one of my closest friends birthdays because he happens to be at this giant rooftop pool that's open to the public? No, I can just stay away. Exactly. It's more important for me to be with my friend than it was to avoid that. So I was proud of Ariana for for showing up. Okay, you want to get into the Toms and Sheena talking?

Oh boy, this you know started off. It seemed like it started off well, they're talking about the pool party and guys night and Ultimately, she and it gets a telling sandoval that an apology to Katie would go a long way You know that he certainly didn't help things when they were going through, when they were opening the bar and they were going through their tough time, Schwartz and Katie,

and that maybe that was an apology that never happened. Maybe not, maybe. Sounds like it wasn't an apology that happened or acknowledgement. Right. So he is not happening at the time. And James- It turns into an accountability fight.

It does turn into another accountability fight, right? And then like James kind of yells at him at the end and James... It turns into an accountability fight. It does turn into another accountability fight, right? And then like James kind of yells at him at the end of that scene, like, Tom, you're gonna burn every bridge around you. Yeah, and then Sandoval freaks out. He's like, it's always my fault. Like, I'm not groveling anymore. We've all made mistakes.

And that's where things get tough with this group. And I think really in any friendship or relationship is that it can be very difficult when you have feelings. Like I'm not saying that Sandoval is wrong. Everyone in that group for the most part has made mistakes, it's true. But what Sandoval's issue is, which is something that Jax does as well,

is and something I used to do 100% is do the, I know I am sorry and blah, blah, blah. And then when you get pushed to a point, instead of all he had to do was either walk away then or just say, okay, I think we're not seeing eye to eye, instead he flips the script and says, well, it's not what I did wasn't that bad because look at what all of you people did.

And all of a sudden that apology or those sincere words kind of just fall to shit. Exactly, it's completely negated. You don't, it gets overshadowed by, yeah, this huge dark cloud comes over and you forget about anything else. Yeah. So that's, yeah, obviously a pattern we've seen. Yeah.

And I wanted to touch on something just like a little insider's info for those of you that may not remember this or do not know. Sheena comes up to the bar and says she didn't come to the Belmont for years. And I don't know if you guys remember why Sheena didn't come to the Belmont for years. And I don't know if you guys remember why Sheena didn't come to the Belmont for years. So at the time, Belmont was under a different ownership. So we can talk about this. But it was season one, right after our reunion, Sheena and some friends, I was not there because we had to go to Vegas, some of us, for a job. But Sheena and some friends went to the Belmont and Sheena slipped.

There was like spilled beer. And I've seen this big surveillance footage. It'll never leave my brain, it's so gross to watch. Sheena slips on the beer and she catches herself with her hands and then her face hits the floor and that's how she broke her teeth which we saw in like season two. She's upset about the tooth surgery, remember the tooth gate. Yes, of course. So that's what happened at the Belmont. She really did fall. Like I'm surprised she didn't break her face, but.

Just a little inside of the- You broke her face, so you know what that's like. I sure did and I sure do. It's not fun. So let's keep going with Brock and Gina. They were with Summer at their place. Yes. And Marina.

And Summer looks like Moana. She's so freaking cute. Summer is adorable. Oh my God, I just love her so much. But this was the scene that Luke, I was just getting, getting eyes burning into me and I was like, yes, you're right, Luke, yes, you're right. Because Luke and Brock are very similar and Sheena and I are very similar in a lot of ways in the way we are in our relationship. Brock saying that he knows Sheena doesn't like change, she's not good with change. And I just kept being like,

oh my god, Brock sounds like Luke. What were your thoughts? Exactly. I'm like, this is why I like this guy. This is why this is my favorite dude in this whole group out here. Yeah. We do have a lot in common and very similar thoughts on things. And I think, you know, the ways that he's good for Sheena are very much the same the ways that I'm good for you and vice versa. Was there anything specifically that resonated with you in that? I mean, specifically, I think we just need those little drawing boards for when we're going to fight. Oh my God. How good was that? That was like, that's another reason why I love Brock. And he like turns it around and has a little sad face.

With a tear. With a tear. Yeah, that's so funny. And they just start laughing. But basically what they're conversing about is this new nanny babysitter, they're having come over Gabby and really trying to give this a shot. Now they've tried with Tori. Obviously we know Tori got busy. Sheena's only comfortable with her mom and her sister.

So they're like, let's just give this person a shot. It's going to be okay. Right. Great conversation, great diffusing something that could have gotten heated. I thought it was, I don't know, it was all good and sweet. Yeah. I just think they're, I like watching the two of them communicate on this show. I think it's very relatable.

I agree. So now we're back to Tom and Ariana's house. It's the main point of this episode. Essentially, they're there most of the time. Right. So Katie and Ariana are at Ariana's and they're getting ready to have a game night, like host a game night. So they're getting the snacks together and the drinks together and all this stuff. And we find out that Sandoval is upstairs in the gym working out and Katie's just

like, man, this is freaking awkward. Like he's going to be up there while we're doing this. And Ariana's like, I don't know. I hope he's leaving. I'm not sure. And Sandoval comes downstairs to make a protein shake. Well, we get a text from Anne that says, Tom wants to come down and make a protein shake. So Ariana dips out, Katie stays, and then Tom and Katie try to have a conversation. Tom apologizes to Katie for having any part

in causing fights that could have led to her divorce. And, you know, Katie's being tough on him. And I and I will say like I think Tom handled that whole situation really well I did think he was trying to humble himself truly And I think he was kind of having to bite the bullet a little bit even as Katie was like not giving him this opportunity I just because I was around for all of that I do see why Katie is holding a bit of a grudge But at the same time, I think Tom handled it very well So I wasn't around for that and until this I didn't even know that that was part of Katie's animosity

I thought that it was all stemmed on being right or die for Ariana I didn't know that that also existed. So that does add some context right for me understanding Katie's side of things here Mm-hmm. So, I mean, it's good and I do think it was really kind of handled well by both sides. Katie got to say what she needed to say. Tom took it. It seems he apologized. He bit the bullet. Even the last time we saw them talking or this come up, when Sheena brought it to him, it didn't seem like he was going to be willing to do something like this. Right. And he didn't deflect this time. He didn't get like moody going to be willing to do something like this. And he didn't deflect this time He didn't get like moody antsy angsty. He didn't deflect he didn't go, you know, okay fuck you you did this that whatever He just said okay

Like okay, you know You're like you're allowed to feel this way kind of a thing and excused himself And I think it's probably the the best we've seen him handle any of these instances thus far yeah, I think it was good, definite progress. And so Schwartz comes over and upstairs, they have their whole conversation about Rachel, essentially. And Sandoval saying he's been journaling every single day at home, he's been crying about Rachel.

He kind of has a breakdown. Something that bugged me a little bit though is he's talking about the journaling and how this is really good for him but then he says he's doing it because it makes him feel closer to her not doing it for himself and For his better well-being. He's like well, I know she's journaling and she's not drinking so I'm journaling and I'm not drinking like oh my god Maybe he I mean we're not him We don't know the level of feelings and to have some really strong, call it love or not,

you know, it hits people at different times, love or infatuation, whatever, to feel like something is where it's going next. And I'll say, not excusing the way he did things by any stretch of anyone's imagination, but in the past, it seemed to work for quite some time when he kind of did the exact same thing with you and Ariana.

And it worked for almost a decade. So I think in his head, that's the direction it was going to go. And this was the next step of him being happy for a long time again. And it falling apart, trying to get inside his head. He's an emotional guy. Like he probably is still clinging onto that for it to come to such an abrupt end like it did and not have any communication. Yeah, I'm sure that does still weigh on him.

Right. And Schwartz is just like, like, Sanval is breaking down in the closet. He's like sobbing hysterically and Schwartz is awkwardly sitting in the chair at the other side of the room, like not sure what to do. And Schwartz is like trying to comfort him in a way of like, I think this might be like the tail end. I don't, I don't think this is life. And this hate is going to continue for you.

Like it's going to be okay. And then in Schwartz's interview bite, he's saying like, he just doesn't know how to help Tom. He's racking his brain. He's just, he, you know, there's gotta be someone, like some friend who has the expertise cause Tom needs good friends. Oh, I laughed and said, here comes Jack. Who else could it be? Who else could an old friend that has experience with cheating and being hated for it? Who else could it be? Jack's isn't there yet.

We've got some more scenes. I just immediately like that. There's your foreshadowing. Who's coming? Yep. You know, Tom's line. It feels like Scott Peterson and Schwartz is like, didn't he kill his wife or girlfriend?

Because allegedly, allegedly makes me laugh. So we get back, we go downstairs to Ariana's party and they're playing Never Have I Ever. And this is just kind of one of those fun, light, silly scenes. And what I did think was funny, I mean, Sheena has made this very public as far as Vanderpump rules that she's, you know, hooked up with celebrities in the past.

She's been a part of threesomes or an orgy, whatever. But I did not know Brock had, and I just thought it was funny because that's why they could be so comfortable sort of saying it in front of each other. Because Brock was like, I mean, I was in a room where two guys were hooking up and there's a girl, whatever, it's kind of an orgy, I guess. And then she cut to Sheena's bite and it was like, wait, who did you have an orgy with? And she was like, let's just say my body is a wonderland. And she didn't throw out, well, there was an A-list celebrity there

or there were A-list celebrities and let's just say my body is a wonderland. I was reading some of the comments and people were like, number one, John Mayer's not an A-list celebrity. Number two, why would you admit that? Like all these crazy comments that were more against him. But we've heard a lot of John Mayer sex stories over my lifetime. Yeah. Funny little never have I ever clip. Yeah. So we, next thing we show the guys night, everybody talking. Well, we see a text that's like between, they show a text on the screen between Schwartz and Jax. So now we know if you didn't already see the foreshadowing

that Luke felt, now you know Jax Taylor is coming to guys' night. Jax is coming to guys' night. So all the guys are there. And the first talk is about Joe being Brock's like, well, Schwartz, what's up with Joe? Secret girlfriend. He says he just wants to be single, etc. And in comes the freight

train that is Jax Taylor. Yeah, it seemed like he kicked down the door with a machine of words. It's just like, I'm gonna let you have it from the start and we'll go from there. It was really, really intense. It was intense. I was physically uncomfortable and so glad I was not there. So bad, although it would have been entertaining I'd rather watch it on TV and oh, yeah I mean Jack's I mean Jack's is obviously ripping into Tom about all the bad things Tom has done and how the whole world's talking About it. So why can't Jack's talk about it too? But then when he says Something about opening his own bar and he goes I mean you guys are the last guys

I'm gonna ask advice for it on opening a bar like damn Gina and then says I saw a you guys are the last guys I'm going to ask advice for on opening a bar. Like damn, Gina. And then says, I saw a picture of you the other day. I swear you looked like you were 50 years old. Yeah, he's like, you look better. You look better. You know, you look like you're looking better. You're doing better. Because I saw this photo of you and it was just like, what else, bro?

It was really rough and tough. And Jackson's just like, what we can't not talk about this stuff. And I feel like it just turned into this like dude catfight For a minute. He's like you're me seven years ago. And then finally Jax comes down. He says, okay, dude Sorry, I just had to get that all off my chest. But I still have your names tattooed on my arm Tom Tom and I I didn't get it, you know covered covered up and they hug it out. And then we have the most glorious transition I've ever seen in my life. We can't skip past the Joe and Allie. Joe getting her astrology reading from Allie at a bar to me, summing it up just says,

Oh, you're in this house and this is a house of friendship. So, you know, it's basically saying, you're in the friend zone. And then she being the nice girl that Ali is, it's like, well, sometimes it's best if you're best friends. You know, I know a lot of people that are friends first and then they ended up being married and super happy. So, you know, you never know. Yeah.

Yeah. It's just, what a wild ride for Joe and Schwartz here. It's weird. It's definitely awkward. Yeah. At Sandoval's last line though, about Jax, saying how Jax doesn't love anything more than celebrating other people's failures. I'm like, ooh.

It's not wrong. It does seem that he enjoys that. Which I think is just that that's how Jax deflects. Like Jax and Sandoval are very similar in a lot of ways and very different in a lot of ways. There's no like gray area with them. It's either this is how they're exactly the same, which is why they fight, and this is how they're total opposites, which is why they fight. Right. So anyway, that was just a real awkward guys night thing. Well, it goes from cat fight to comb and then they like hug it out. it out and leave which is kind of how guys do if you're gonna have words

You pretty much typically get over it pretty quick. Okay, I think at least to me guys hold grudges a little less than women And I don't mean that to be a sexist thing. It's just an observation. Yeah, I mean I agree with you So I think women sometimes like feel the hurt more the pain more the light and the last and then try to reason with it And like be logical about it, which can feel impossible. So you're you're right, right? so they had their words shook it off hugged it out and Jax comes right to the valley with the interview chair change. It was so good He gets up from the Vanderpump interview chair walks off set walks on to the valley interview chair you can tell we have a green screen in the back then they make the green, walks onto the valley interview chair. You can tell we have a green

screen in the back, then they make the green screen look like the valley and welcome to the valley bitches. It was so cool. It was very cool. So I'm on TV now. And we will talk more about the valley on our next episode of Sex, Love, and What Else Matters because we will have Brittany Cartwright on. So stay tuned and we'll jump right into Valley episode one and what else is to come. Yes. Look for that in the next day or two. It's coming out very soon. Love you guys so much.

Hope you enjoyed Vanderpump. Hope you enjoyed the transition just like full circle from my first season of Vanderpump Rules with our transition from Housewives. Hope you love the first episode of The Valley. It is only going to get hotter and crazier. It is going to get crazier. The first episode is not even crazy. No, not even. But we'll save it. We'll save it. We got to go talk to Brittany. We got to go talk to Brittany. So we'll talk to you guys soon. Thanks for listening. Make sure to follow us on social media. You can follow me on all platforms at Kristin Doty and follow Luke on Instagram

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