Sex, Love, and What Else Matters - Last Call Before Labor!
Episode Date: June 7, 2025Episode 160. Yes, Kristen is still pregnant—and doing everything she can to speed things up. From bouncing on a medicine ball and power-eating dates to braving the famous “Salad” at Coyote Resta...urant in Los Angeles, she’s officially in the “get-this-baby-out” phase. This week, she and Luke talk about their latest 4D ultrasound experience, Kristen’s nesting frenzy, and why she’s crossing her fingers so hard that the baby avoids being born on June 10. They also share a PSA about The Valley, dive into a round of listener Q&A, and spill on the little habits they each find mildly annoying in each other. Plus, their favorite pregnancy products, what they’re most excited to do once the baby’s here, and more. Tune in to their last episode before the baby is born! Sponsors: DraftKings Casino: Sign up with code DOUTE and start playing to get up to $1,000 in casino credits back with a minimum five-dollar net loss. Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code Doute. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What's up babes. Welcome back to another episode of Balancing Act.
We are here and we are still pregnant.
You are still pregnant. I'm here supporting pregnancy to the best of my abilities.
People online just keep on, like on social media, they're like, Kristen, how are you
still pregnant?
It's been forever.
Oh my God, you've been pregnant for two years.
You're telling me for realsies.
And it is very wild.
I want to get into this in a little bit, but like how I've forgotten parts of pregnancy already.
Like they feel so foreign and so far away.
And I'm wondering if that's because of how I feel now
or because it was such a long time ago. Ten months ago.
You know, they say you forget, like once you have the baby,
you forget about pregnancy.
Who says that?
Um...
I've heard that's a common thing that women say.
They're like, yeah, once you feel the amazingness
of having your baby, it's like, I'd do that again.
Yeah, I heard that too.
We're gonna get into that.
Really quick though, happy Pride, everyone.
Happy Pride month.
It should be Pride month every month.
And our baby is going to love you, baby.
I love that meme.
Did you see that meme I posted?
It's like, our baby will love your baby.
And it's like the LGBTQ flag and then like all the other flags
and like all the different skin colors.
And I was like, oh, I started crying.
It's so sweet.
Yeah, I just love everybody.
I mean, good people are good people.
That's it.
And our LGBTQ plus community needs all the support
and love that they can get.
So let's make it Pride Day every day.
You know who's really excited about Pride per usual is Zach.
And although he's pissy with me
for not partying with him on Pride this year,
too bad Zachary, our baby is going to be born
during Pride month.
So every single year she gets to wear a super cute outfit
and party with Uncle Zach.
If Zach moves to Tennessee too.
Okay. We're not talking about Tennessee today, but yes.
Well, by time, you know, she's partying anyway.
Yeah. So, yeah, happy pride guys. And thank you to everyone on social media, in emails,
and everything for the well wishes. I can't speak. Well wishes, the positive pregnancy notes,
the delivery messages. I see everything.
And it is so appreciated.
If I could thank every single one of you one by one, I would.
So we just went to the doctor while we go to every single week now.
I am pushing 39 weeks, about 38 and a half.
And for those of you women out there who have had babies
or the men that care and know about these things,
I am like slightly dilated, like 50% thinned out.
So she's like ready to come,
but she's just a little too happy in there.
Yep, and we are trying the old tricks.
Well, you've eaten the dates, you got the exercise ball.
Yeah, bouncing on the ball, figure eights on the ball,
eating dates.
The salad.
We had the salad, which if you live in Southern California,
you probably know about this place, Coyote.
Or even if you don't live here, I feel like it's pretty famous.
You can Google it.
Just type in, like, the labor salad Los Angeles.
And they have this salad that's like watercress with like romaine, shredded gorgonzola pasteurized.
I think that's it.
And then it's like their homemade balsamic.
I actually don't think it has a whole lot going on in it.
It's really good.
I think there were a couple other things.
There were walnuts or strawberries or something.
Oh, that's right.
No strawberries but walnuts.
Or some pecans, something like that.
But it's really good.
But yeah, so the dressing is like this homemade balsamic
that they do.
And everything I've read, it's like,
oh, it's the dressing, it's the dressing.
And it does taste a little different,
has a little like a pepper kick to it.
But I don't know what it is.
But if you walk into this place called Coyote,
they have this huge, huge, huge like wall size board
that says Salad
Babies. And it's, if you've had the salad and then went into labor shortly thereafter,
you come in and like bring like your baby announcement and like write the baby's information
and it is just plastered all over their wall. So when I ordered the salad, they brought
me a guest book and she was like, you don't have to sign it, but if you want to. And I
was like, of course I want to. This is like historical.
So I signed it.
It did not work.
To be fair though, we were like 30, what were we?
37 weeks, like 37 and a half weeks.
It was a week ago.
Yeah, it's like 37 plus two, I think.
So it's like, you can't just go in any time
and like 32 weeks and be like, I want to have the baby now.
Well, why don't we have round two in the next couple days?
Okay.
Because I did write in there, and you guys may know,
my friend Jade Tolbert, when she had baby number three,
her baby Reed, she had actually had the salad 72 hours-ish
before she went into labor in her closet.
Now she does not claim that the salad is what did the trick necessarily,
but I thought that was pretty wacky. I have high hopes.
So yeah, we've done all of that. What am I missing that we did?
Spicy gives me heartburn. Oh, curb walking. I need to do more curb walking,
but I have been doing curb walking.
I've taken Jill out on walks by myself
just to try to get moving a little bit,
but, dude, I'm telling you, she's just a river-dancing alien
inside my stomach, having a ball.
Warm, safe, secure as can be.
I mean, why would I want to come out right now?
In this world?
I get it.
She's smart cookie.
Because we're her parents. Yeah, that's true.
We are here to protect you, little baby girl.
So we're going to keep trying.
We're trying to induce it ourselves.
And if it doesn't happen, then next week it is.
Well, we have one thing left to test.
We do.
And if we throw back to our initial podcast that we started together.
Sex.
Sex.
And more sex. Sex, yes. So what I've read, I'm curious to how this works too. I have to read more about
it, but what I've read about it is that semen actually helps thin the cervix, meaning I'm
50% right now. It's going to help.
But your cervix is what expands. It doesn't like go away.
I'm close. My cervix is closed right now
I thought that was the dilation and now 50 percent the lining of it is 50 percent thinned out
So once that is fully thinned out then i'll start dilating which means opening up
So I don't know if this even helps dilation or not. We'll have to google it
But I know it helps thin
The membrane I don't know the membrane out, I guess.
Okay. Yeah.
Yeah.
Supposedly, well, because then,
who was I talking to, a friend of ours,
and they said that they put like a sticker on you
or something that's like a fake semen sticker, remember?
Yeah, they put some sort of suppository in the access, the same way to help. that's like a fake semen sticker, remember?
Someone told me that.
It's like a synthetic semen.
We'll just say they. It's what they say.
We're just trying everything.
over 40 years old. Well, you know, he also said everything
looks so fantastic right now.
Like there's no sign of anything not holding up.
So, yeah.
The bag of bones is holding it all up.
No one would guess your age, babe.
And once I get Botox, they'll really be questioning it.
Listen, I'm gonna be 60 when baby girl is graduating high school
and I'm not gonna look in day over 45.
Perfect.
That's what's up.
What else, what else?
We did a 40 ultrasound.
And you guys, this is gonna be so fucking baby heavy.
So just like, don't you care about my life?
Isn't that why you're listening?
You care about what's going on in our lives.
Yeah, paces are in the final.
We'll talk about other stuff too,
but it's very baby heavy right now
just because that's what I'm going through
and I'm a first time mom and like,
this is all wild as hell to me.
We did a 4D ultrasound at home
with this company called Spotlight Baby 4D.
And they actually were the,
it's a really small business, just two women
who are so lovely, so fantastic.
And they actually did Britney's and Lala's four years ago.
And so it was a very wild, full circle moment for Brit because I contacted them to come
over.
And when they got here, Britney came over.
She's like, can I be a part of it, y'all?
I'm like, of course.
And she brought Cruz with her.
So Cruzy and Britney were here.
And like the last time those ladies had seen Brittany,
they were looking at a 40 ultrasound of Cruz in her belly.
And he looks exactly the same.
Except way bigger.
Except huge. Yeah. He's a tall boy.
But it's crazy. So, we've had such an issue seeing really great photos of baby girl
because she always has her hands in her face.
And any mom or mom-to-be knows, like,
it's just not that easy, right?
Getting, like, a really great photo.
And they got some of the cutest effing photos.
And she's like Luke's little twin.
And she has the cutest nose. And I'm obsessed.
We just can't see eye color yet.
We cannot.
Which is your biggest concern.
Or hair.
Yeah.
I don't care if she has hair. I didn't have hair.
What if she's a little blue-eyed redhead?
Hmm?
Could happen.
Cute shit.
Doesn't matter, she's gonna be cute no matter what.
I just prefer the eye color to not be the same thing.
This is the only reason she's with me.
So you guys know.
Um, what else?
Hospital bag, Luke.
Oh, we're nesting.
I mean, I'm nesting mostly. Of course, I've said this
a million times. But Luke, are you nesting? Because you are nesting a little bit. Are
you doing it to appease me?
I mean, I think I'm just pushing the envelope a little more where you're like an idea person
and I'm just like in a shape and a form.
You bought an 85 inch TV for the patio.
Well, you know, Pacers are in the finals and it just seemed like the right move.
You wanted to get new patio furniture.
That's true.
And we had our little 40 inch.
Yeah.
Sitting out there on top of a table
and I'm like, this isn't cutting it.
And when I have people over for a game or anything,
then we end up out there watching the little TV.
So we need a big TV.
So you were just like accessorizing my nesting.
We're also going into summer, you know.
True.
Think about it. You already love it.
Did nesting at all kick in for you? I guess it just doesn't for men.
Hmm.
Like the need to make the house like put together and like decorated and clean.
I mean, I can't sit still without looking at something in the house
and wanting to change it or fix it or do something differently.
I mean, if you want me to go into nesting mode,
you're going to end up taking down half the stuff I put up.
Yeah, I don't want that.
That's what I mean. So I've already like...
But nesting is like cleaning also.
Like this dire need to like clean every day.
That's why I wake up when...
No, don't have the dire need.
I mean...
Fair enough.
I think I clean the same amount as I used to.
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Do you think it was the nesting bug
that made me cry over throw pillows last week?
I had our hormones.
I mean, yeah.
And your addiction to online shopping.
So I had an ever loving meltdown.
The most ridiculous meltdown I've ever had,
if you can imagine,
because I've had some ridiculous meltdowns.
But my friend John McClain, who decorated,
he's an interior decorator, he did my house
when I had my house years ago, my James May office,
like he's super rad.
So I asked him to help me with the nursery.
And we were just finishing up the nursery,
we had a photo shoot for People magazine.
I felt pretty cool.
And I'm sitting on the couch,
staring at fucking throw pillows that I hate,
trying to imagine what this room can look like.
And I'm just like, I'm stuck.
And I lost my shit.
And I started sobbing so hard,
like choking back my tears, crying. Like, I hate it all.
This is always going to be like this.
Like I don't know what the frick my problem was.
And I text John and he was like, I will be over early for the photo shoot and I will
bring everything.
And that day I've been having a really difficult time sleeping at night.
So I've been napping during the day or sleeping in.
And I got up that day around, I don't know, like 10 o'clock or something,
and the whole living room was completely finished.
New rug, new pillows, new lamps. I was like, what?
John came prepared and we knocked stuff out quick.
Yeah, thanks guys.
It was more him than me.
I was there to assist.
He came with all the goods and had the vision.
So yeah.
So my recommendation is get you a friend who is a pro in decor.
If you're in your third trimester and you were going to be a nesting psycho like me.
That's a good call.
Right?
Yeah.
Do you remember why you called him in the first place?
No.
Cause I told you when you were on the couch not having as real meltdown
But you were like, I just can't make decisions on what what to do. I don't know what to hang
I'm like, well then call your interior designer. So we've been talking about this for six months. Yeah. Yeah. Good job, babe
Yeah
And now look I cry so much like I truly don't think I've ever cried over like something
Something like that was so small. Yeah, it kind of ruined your whole day.
It really did. And then the next day when it was done, I was just happy as a clam.
Anyway, really quick, what I was talking about in the beginning though,
forgetting about pregnancy.
Because I've been thinking about it because we got pregnant
right after we were wrapped filming season one, right?
Which was a long time ago.
Now that we're rewatching things back,
the show's airing and whatever, right?
That was a while ago, it was 10 months ago, okay?
So-
You said season one.
I'm sorry.
No, it's okay.
No, I thought you were gonna go into-
I meant season two.
That was true as well.
Season two, sorry.
Season two is airing and that we filmed,
we wrapped filming in September, which is we got pregnant like a week and a half, two weeks later.
So I'm like, is me forgetting about how horrible first trimester was?
Is that because of the timing? And like, it's just hard to like think about that stuff right now?
Or is it because what you were saying earlier
and how they all say once you get birthed, blah, blah, blah?
I think it's because it's so hard to focus
on anything else but being prepared.
You're in nesting mode.
You have this beach ball holding our baby attached to you.
And it's like reflecting is not really
what you do very much.
You're looking ahead.
Right now, I would take first trimester
over third trimester any day of the week.
Physically, 100%, but I'd take this Kristin over,
over first trimester Kristin, any day of the week.
I was telling my waxer about this earlier.
I was getting my Vigene waxed before birth
and I was telling her,
we were having this exact conversation
and I was like, yeah, I said that to Luke. And I was like, the look on your face, the other day when I said that, we were having this exact conversation and I was like yeah I said that to Luke it's like the look on your face the other day
when I said that you were like mm-hmm or not. Yeah I didn't make a comment the
first time you said that. No but I do remember being really miserable I
remember talking about on this podcast how miserable I was how sad I was how
depressed how anxious but I wonder now because I am so aware that those feelings could happen again, it's like,
am I so aware that, you know, hopefully we get to have a second child, that in first
trimester will I be able to sort of separate the two and go, these are hormones, Kristen,
you know better, this isn't forever.
Because really what it is, I think, looking back
is it feels like it's forever.
It feels like you're never gonna get out of this sad hole
or that I would never get out of that sad hole,
like this is the rest of my life.
I worked so hard in therapy to not feel these feelings
and now here I am again.
And you know what I mean?
Well, therapy doesn't help you feel feelings,
it helps you recognize what's going on.
And deal with them.
Yeah, and deal with them.
And use your tools.
But I felt like I had no tools in my first trimester.
It felt like everything I had known and worked on
my whole adult life was out the window.
I had nothing.
And I was stuck.
There was no medicine, there was no toolkit,
there was no therapist that could help me out of it.
That's how I felt.
And now I'm like, that's silly.
Yeah, I didn't know who you were first trimester.
So let's stick with this one.
And this is just physically shitty.
I love being pregnant. It's so much fun.
It is going to be very weird to not be pregnant though.
That is, I don't even remember, I do, but not really.
Yeah, well this is our last, who knows, few days, week
we have without having a child.
That's first priority.
24 seven, seven days a week for the next 18 years.
Yeah, we were talking to our friend Courtney last night,
Berman Baker, and I was having
her walk me through getting induced pregnancy labor, just really walk us through some things.
So I'd rather hear it from a friend than just Google and all of this stuff.
But she even said last night, once the baby's here, that's that.
You'll be fine.
You're going to get through it.
She's like, what did she say?
Oh, it was just talking about the negative things
or how the things that can feel bad, you know,
like she's like, there's all of that.
Like you felt all these feelings before.
You felt pain before.
You felt, you know, scared before.
You felt sad before.
You felt all these feelings.
But what you've never felt
and what you've never felt,
and what you will never feel again,
is the experience of loving this baby
as much as you will love this baby.
You will never, you're not even prepared
to know what that feels like.
She's like, it's indescribable.
And what a blessing that is,
and how it just totally trumps all the bad feelings.
We're gonna get to a Q&A,
but I wanted to just give a little PSA about the Valley.
Because guys, I wish I could answer your questions about the Valley.
I wish we could give our opinions about it, especially now that the After Show is airing.
I wish we could rebuttal all day long, but we cannot do it on this podcast.
We are not allowed to discuss the Valley or the After Show.
And in fact, I feel like there might be a couple
of cast members in their minions that are listening
to this right now and typing Valley
in the transcript search of our podcast,
just to see if they can rad on me.
I'm not joking, but as much as I would love
personally speaking for myself,
like to defend myself, to my friend, defend my friends,
give my thoughts, this podcast, we are not allowed to do that, hopefully, you know, they figure something I would love personally speaking for myself,
we're just not allowed to per higher ups. Yep. So just to ping her to mess with their search, Valley, Valley, Valley, Valley.
Should we list the cast names too? No, not on this podcast. Yeah, so that's pretty much all
that's going on with us. And we want to get to a little Q&A action because man, do you guys have
a lot of questions for us.
And this will be the last time you'll hear from us as non-parents.
Oh my God.
The last time.
Wild.
That I'm not the hottest dad bod in the group, right?
Wait, not the hottest dad bod.
The last time because I'll actually be a dad.
You're going to be a dad.
Yeah, you're going to be a hot bod.
Well, that's what I'm saying.
People love your bod.
I won't be.
People are like, look at Luke's glow up.
Oh my God.
Kristen, oh my God.
Do you get to lay your head on that six pack?
Funny.
It makes me uncomfortable, but.
No, it does not.
It does. What are you talking about?
You giggle a little and you blush, but you love it.
You don't love it.
If guys, if you want it. You don't love it.
If guys, if you want it-
I'm not saying I don't.
You know what?
Screw Luke then.
If any of you guys want to watch the show next year
and be like, Kristen's rock hard abs.
Look at Kristen's body.
I will take it.
I will quote you.
I will run with it.
It will make my life.
How about that, babe?
Sounds good.
Awesome.
I mean, do you want me to care more about vanity?
No, I don't.
Do you want me to be more vain?
I just, I'm like, I'm so like proud and like, I like that people are like noticing you for
who you are really, and not just like looking past things.
You know what I mean?
Like something as simple as you being able to like work on a car.
Like we talk about, I mean, granted, not like everyone that watches the show listens to
our podcast, but like that's who you are.
You know what I mean?
And it's just wild that people are like, he can fix a car.
Like he knows how to like look under a hood and just talk.
And then like me posting like a picture of us at our second baby moon with the friends
and like you're not wearing a shirt and they're like, oh my God did this six pack come from and I was like fuck yeah. I wasn't born with it but
it's been there since the early ages it's just good genetics. I'm just proud and excited
I'm allowed to be. Okay let's go to Q&A. So we have a couple questions first right off
the bat because when I posted this we were watching Naked and Afraid last one standing
and so many of you clocked that and had a bunch of questions.
So it's like our favorite show to watch together at night.
Luke, what survival tool would you bring on,
Naked and Afraid?
So I've thought about this a lot.
Okay, but you can only pick one.
I know.
There are some circumstances though,
because you know, some of them-
Because depending on where you are.
Yeah, where you are, one, and two.
They don't always offer to let you have everything either.
Well, of course, sometimes they give you,
especially a fan challenge,
they'll be like a pot and a fire starter, right?
If I have those two things and I'm somewhere with water,
I'm bringing fishing gear.
Otherwise, I mean.
Let's just go bare bones.
If I, I mean, I think fire's number one.
If they're not providing that,
I'm gonna bring something to make fire.
I'm not good at whittling a stick
and turning wood into fire like that,
but I can make one with flint and magnesium.
Me too.
Quick as anyone.
I said that's one of my best hobbies,
start fire starting.
You lit toilet paper on fire with it.
I certainly did.
I got a lot of, I did well.
I was gonna say a fire starter.
Because you can't really do shit without fire.
Right. And fishing is just... I'm best at that.
It seems like you have the most consistent success for food.
I want to take like a basket weaving class.
So I can catch stuff.
That's not that hard. And those traps rarely work.
I've seen lots of episodes of Naked and Afraid while they work.
Just dandy.
They catch like one shrimp in 14 days.
Stop being negative, Nancy.
I'm not. I'm being realistic.
Who do you think is going to win this season?
That is tough.
It is really tough.
It's tough right now because there's so many people left.
It is.
Honestly, I would...
Max is one of my favorites.
Although I'd like to see Laura Zara win this whole thing.
Honestly, I think Laura is such a badass.
Oh, Laura.
Yeah.
She's such a badass and always so uppity and happy.
I remember the 60-day one she did in the behind the scenes or naked parts or whatever they
say.
They showed she made some hooch.
So they were able to get drunk one night.
I don't know.
I think she's so cool.
I am going to go Laura.
Yeah, that would be cool to see her win.
Okay, but we love almost everybody.
Yeah, absolutely.
And then the last question that I wrote down was,
who's your least favorite person and why is it Trish?
I mean, I used to dislike Trish more.
I feel like I need to understand her
because I feel like she seems really like pouty-poly
but there's gotta be like a reason for that.
And then if I understood her better,
I wouldn't feel that way.
Suzanne I found more annoying because partially her name.
I can't take her name, guys, I can't.
Why, why is it Suzanne?
Who told, does your mom call you Suzanne for real?
Probably, I don't, actually we don't know.
Could be a Jax Taylor situation, I don't know.
She changed it because she didn't wanna be
like Suzanne Smith, so she's like Suzanne Smythe or something.
I don't know, anyway.
Every time they say it though, I'm like, ugh!
And I find Patrick to be quite annoying.
I'm not taken away from his survival ability,
but watching him, there are times where I'm like,
man, you have to yell this in on repeat all the time.
What does he say?
The legend slayer. We get the point, man.
Like what's with all the shouting all the time?
No, for sure.
Yeah, you know what?
Actually, now that you say that,
I think I'm judging who I would want to win
or my quote unquote least favorite
based on if I were there,
who would I want to be around
and who do I not want to be around?
Not just like, oh, I don't like them on TV,
but like, I guess it is a little, I don't like them on TV, but like, I guess it is a little,
I don't like them on TV.
Yeah, that's definitely part of it.
Nevermind, those are not nice of me,
but you know what I mean,
people judge us, it's how we have to judge them.
So I don't really know who my least favorite is.
No one's bothering me enough to say, I can't stand you.
At the moment, I think Patrick's the first one
I'd like to see go.
I think it would be more enjoyable to watch as a whole.
For me, if people want different things.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And I just hope he gets humbled a little more
and if there's this arc and this evolution in this series,
it'll be great.
Not bringing all the hate.
I know he's a capable person and everything,
but this cockiness is annoying.
Wait, speaking of, here's my pregnancy brain, speaking of judgment on people, I forgot one
other thing I really wanted to talk about before we go into questions.
Okay, what's that?
Okay, so we're getting induced this coming week and we had talked to my doctor about
it because I said, you know, I know that there's a thing about like, can we be induced this early?
I'm like, get her out now.
And it's like, you can't just do it whenever you want.
However, Luke, thank you for speaking up for me,
told our doctor, Kristen does not want the baby to be born on June 10th.
Yeah, I did bring that up, which is always how it goes in there.
And he's like, so not surprised at all.
He's not surprised by anything we say.
He's like, okay, like, what's up with June 10th?
So this is where my judgment lies.
I have this book, guys, it's called 365 birthdays interpreted.
It is not published any longer.
I bought this years ago on Amazon used for like kind of expensive.
It's by Michelle Knight and it just goes in order of like the day you're born.
So ever since we found out her due date, I've been looking at her due date and the dates surrounding it.
And then when we realized she was definitely going to come early,
I have an issue with June 10th.
And if you're born on June 10th and you're female, listen,
I'm really sorry, or a guy,
I just feel like she's going to be a hussy with daddy issues,
even though Luke's going to be a great dad.
Can I just, can I tell them why?
Yes, read away. All right. So the only thing that I didn't, I tell them why? Yes, read away.
All right.
So the only thing that I didn't, I guess I kind of didn't realize is that the occupation,
it says she will have as a gardener, a stockbroker or a radio commentator.
I don't remember that being the thing, but she's natural.
Let me just give you a couple of little pinpoints why I don't want my daughter born and stay.
And I feel like I'm now manifesting and she will be.
Naturally good at showing off.
Best present to give her a membership at an elegant nightclub or a trip to Vegas.
Wait, you have an extreme nature.
You are a firecracker.
You sizzle and pop and bounce around the place.
You appear extremely confident, but you suffer from bouts of self-doubt.
That's just asking to be fucking the wrong men.
No, go on. There's worse stuff.
That's not... People that deal with that stuff that aren't...
You have a highly physical nature.
You can often be led astray if someone panders to your ego.
That's the... See, now we're getting into other things, but continue.
You don't like to hurt people,
but you find yourself in complex emotional dramas
as you leap in and out of people's lives at will.
Yeah, so yeah, that's why I mean it keeps getting worse.
Yeah.
You love to flirt and schmooze.
You often have more than one love interest hanging around
and find it hard to make up your mind.
Love interest, quote unquote.
Please, they're like, you are a hussy, ma'am.
That's pretty much it.
Okay, so not June 10th.
Yeah, so not June 10th.
And I told my doctor that and he's cool about it.
And so she will not be born on June 10th.
And now I feel like just watch,
she's gonna slip and slide right out.
We're gonna plan on going to get induced
and she's gonna be like, ha ha ha,
I'm coming the morning of June 10th.
Oh, well, guess we'll just have to defy the book
because I defy the book.
It is eerily correct on certain people like Zach.
Zach's is crazy, mine is crazy.
Very crazy.
Yours is not at all.
Mine is not accurate and Benji's is not accurate.
No.
So there's obviously it's not like completely predetermined
but I didn't give it any credit. And then we like read a few people.
I'm like, damn, that is scary.
Yeah.
About certain people.
Most people.
We can't say most.
It's like 50-50.
You and Benji are the first people I've ever read that are not correct.
It's true.
Anyway, back to the Q&A's.
I just had to get that off my chest because we were talking about judgment.
And I was like, oh, I don't want to judge these people.
And I was like, well, I'm already judging my daughter's possible birthdate.
Okay, q&a is Luke. What's your go to coffee order here? I'll say yours and you say mine.
Luke's is black coffee hot. Or if he wants to be fancy, then and then he'll go frappuccino,
like a frozen drink, but it has to be flavored like obviously like mocha.
Mocha frappuccino once in a while on a hot day is good.
But I do get an iced Americano once in a while.
Oh, you literally just had one the other day
for the first time in a million years.
You like any kind of black hot coffee,
gas station hot coffee, you don't care.
Yeah, I drink gas station coffee.
Okay, what's my coffee order?
You like stuff in your coffee.
No, it's like cream and Splenda.
You don't drink the same thing every day.
You have the vanilla stuff in the morning.
Yeah.
So vanilla bean.
Skinny vanilla latte.
Skinny vanilla latte.
That's what I said, isn't it?
That I can't with you.
You like stuff in your coffee, period.
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What three things are you most excited to do with your daughter?
Well, we still have some years before those come into play, but taking her fishing, absolutely,
especially in a boat, like being out on the water with her. It'll be really exciting just going for
hike in the woods or just around the property in Colorado with the dogs. Very simple things. And
or just around the property in Colorado with the dogs. Very simple things.
And experiencing family in Indiana and Michigan,
like going back to the Midwest
and seeing like where her parents' roots are.
I'm excited for just, yeah, like cool core memories,
especially when she's young.
Like in whatever classes and things she wants to try.
And I think the more you try, the better.
I think that's something I loved about my childhood
was like playing softball and being in ballet
and being in jazz and like being a cheerleader
and being in choir and just trying a bunch of stuff
until I figured out like what really stuck for me.
And something stuck, you know, when you're little
and then you're kind of over it
and then some things stick later in life.
So I just think I'm excited to be like,
whatever you want to try. Like I just, like I said this on another podcast that you and I did. So I just think I'm excited to be like, whatever you wanna try.
Like I said this on another podcast that you and I did,
but I just want her to like be really fearless.
Yeah, I think she will be.
So however, because I'm a very fearful person.
You are.
And so I don't want to like rub off on her in that way.
Yeah, she'll be by jumping with me.
Yeah, for sure.
This is from one of our listeners wanting to know,
as she said, she's currently trying to concede
and so excited for us, any random advice for a future mama.
Manifest, I know it sounds cheesy
and it's not always the most helpful,
but the most positive is you can be,
it's better for your mindset for sure, like hopeful.
And obviously if it becomes like a fertility issue,
just from our own experience,
highly recommend seeing a fertility specialist
and just to get everything checked out to know
if it has something to do with you or with him,
like biologically speaking, or if it's something
maybe that you guys can control environmentally.
Yeah, just get everything checked out.
I mean, do everything you can before, you know,
spending the money on an IUI, IPF, et cetera.
Exhaust the natural ways to go about it.
And yeah, just-
Really have sex a lot too.
Like every other day, like every couple of days
when you're ovulating, definitely,
I recommend tracking your ovulation,
but also know that like that can be tricky.
And it's not, in our instance, it wasn't always correct.
Like I wasn't ovulating on the days
that I thought I should be.
So really tracking it and paying attention for a while.
Obviously, if you watch the show, you see like how,
like it was just devastating for me,
realizing that I wasn't ovulating when I thought that I should be.
But once I could kind of let that go and stop, quote-unquote, hating my body,
I was like, okay, so it's just not happening regularly,
and I just need to find out when it is.
So it's really just a lot of tracking and figuring that out, too.
What is one habit for each of us that annoys the other person?
You go first.
You go first.
Okay.
Are you gonna say nothing?
No.
Because I'm a pretty princess and I'm pregnant.
Well, you are my pretty little princess.
But aren't we, we're on reality TV,
we're supposed to be real, aren't we?
Yeah, there's a bunch of shit about you that annoys me.
Yeah, I mean, I think the feelings mutual at times.
When you say, can I go golfing?
Makes me want to throw an axe at your head.
No, anytime I say the word golf.
No, you act like that's how I say it.
I'll say, hey, Jesse asked me to golf on Thursday, and you start getting pissy immediately.
Like, just because I told you someone asked me to do it.
Don't act like this is that's how it goes every time. There are times where I'm like, hey, I know we have
this tomorrow. Do you think I can golf? And you'll be like, you don't have to ask me just
say you're going golfing.
It is lighting a fire under my ass right now. Just hearing you say it.
Yeah, the word golf is a trigger now.
I love it because I want you to do things that make you happy and you come home a happier
person and like I know all of that. I think it's because I'm pregnant
and I can't do a fucking thing right now.
So it just irritates me
that you get to like go out and have fun.
I know it feels to me that you're doing it more often
during the pregnancy that I think is partially true.
I understand that that could also be
the way that I'm perceiving it
because I'm doing so much less.
I'm not doing things with you
or going out and doing my own stuff,
but it's kind of like, why don't you have to suffer if I do?
That's not very loving, babe.
You should want me to enjoy life.
Not just be like, I'm miserable, so your life has to suck.
I want you to want to join me.
You want me to want to join you in the suck.
I want you to be happy for me, not building the suck.
Or be like, you know what, babe? You know, you know what Kristen, I don't want to go golfing
today.
Cause you know what would be super fun is if you and I did putt putt instead, I would
be like, oh, wait, really?
I've tried to get you to come out in the course and just.
I don't want to go on a golf course with you and your stinky friends.
Not my friends.
Literally we were on our baby moon and you wouldn't ride around in the cart with me.
Sounds terrible.
Why does it? See?
I don't...
So what annoys me about you is how much you hate the word golf.
Mm.
I'm trying to think if it were something else in place of golf,
because it's not the act of golfing.
You'll hate fishing once I start fishing more often.
No, because I like that too.
I don't know what it is.
I think, I truly think it's because, like,
I just can't do things right now.
And then I am at home and I'm nesting, I truly think it's because I just can't do things right now.
And then I am at home and I'm nesting, so I'm like,
I hope Luke's having fun with his stupid friends today
while I babysit the dogs and take care of the house.
That's the way I'm envisioning it.
And then you're just like, no cares in the world.
That's the point. You should have a release
where you can go have no cares in the world for a couple hours.
When you're carrying a giant child in your belly,
no such thing, bitch.
Yes, well before, not right now, but like.
Okay, what's one habit of mine that annoys you
and it can't be that I hate when you say golf?
Okay, it's when you have a day where you leave shit laying
all over the place and then the next day you blame me for the big mess.
I really hate your side of the bed.
Yeah.
Just your whole side of the bed I hate.
Okay. I have a habit of cluttering some items.
So I still have this thing.
I don't want to wash my clothes just because I wore them once.
If I wore it for a few hours one day.
So why don't you fold it and put it back away?
Because I want to keep it separate from my freshly clean clothes.
So you need three? Oh, I see.
I have this, yeah, you know, I need that worn once basket or something.
You do?
I need bigger closets for that. Yeah.
I will buy you two hampers, one for worn once and one for...
I'm saying there are days though that you leave shit out,
you take your clothes off in different places, there's a bra on the couch,
there's pants there, blankets all over,
and you're like, this house is trashed.
Why don't you pick it up?
And I'm like, yeah, that's a little annoying sometimes.
It doesn't last really long though.
No.
Because then I go crazy and I'm like,
you could lick off the floors after that.
I'm like, rawr!
Yeah, so.
Is there anything else about you
that annoys the shit out of me?
You said one thing.
The tiny hairs on the sink.
They've gotten a lot worse.
I want to slit your throat in your sleep sometimes because the tiny hairs on the sink sometimes.
Just hate them.
Can't men just shave somewhere else?
Where do you want me to shave?
I don't know.
Over the toilet.
I'd rather you do it over the toilet. Put a mirror over the toilet.
Okay.
I need a mirror.
Come on.
Outside, I'll give you a mirror outside.
Okay, I need an outdoor sink.
Why do I need a sink?
It's also a fish cleaning station.
Why do I need a sink?
Yeah, why do you need the sink to catch the tiny hairs?
It's not to catch it, it's to like clean stuff off.
You don't wet shave your face.
True, but...
Mm-hmm.
I feel I need a sink.
So, we've just come to the conclusion
that men don't need sinks when they're shaving
with an electric razor...
at all.
Except to catch the tiny hairs and let them sit in crevices
that are almost impossible to get out.
Ha ha.
Oh, my God, I love winning this argument.
Oh, hell yeah.
All right, next question.
Luke, how old is Jill and what do you feed her?
She'll be eight this year and I feed her some wild natural stuff.
I don't know what it's called.
It's on auto ship from Amazon, but it's like, better stuff to grain free that and
then she gets some hip treats and some denta chews. And that's
that's it.
And he doesn't like that I overfeed her sometimes. Well,
yeah, she's got a
his food is love, but I want we do want the babies to last. I'm
really bad at that. I like show them I love them with treats and it's not good.
She's certainly heavier here than she ever was in Colorado.
Yeah, but she can't run here, that's why.
Next.
Oh, I like this question.
I meant you to just answer it.
What is Luke's job during labor and delivery?
Hand to squeeze and pretty much just be there
for you to yell at. I mean, yes, you don be there for you to yell at.
I mean, yes, you don't have to say to yell at.
I would like support and love.
Yeah, I'm not delivering the baby this time.
That's so crazy that Danny delivered.
I have to talk to them.
Danny and Nia's, they just had a baby.
It just came out in the news today from us weekly.
And we found out the day that they were heading
to the hospital because we were texting with them. And I got to keep it a secret for the last few days.
But we read the article, and I haven't talked to Nia today,
and it said, Danny delivered the baby.
And I was like, what the hell does that even mean?
Like, what did he do? Like, the doctor was there, and he was like, all right, Danny, catch?
Pretty much, I think. It's like, here it comes,
and you just make sure it doesn't plop out and get hurt.
I don't know.
Make sure it's not suffocating.
I haven't done this before, I don't know.
But I know like firemen deliver babies
and they're not doctors.
So it's like, there's pretty much just catch
and make sure the baby can breathe.
Catch and release.
Wipe some stuff off of them.
Oh no, you will not be delivering.
So what is your job during labor and delivery?
Taking care of you.
That's very sweet.
A hand to squeeze.
I'm not gonna yell at you.
Like it's not what I thought in movies.
I've asked all my girlfriends this
and not one of them said that they like yelled
at their husband and been like, you did this to me.
That's because nowadays almost everyone gets the epidural.
If they're doing like the movies,
it's natural birth cause they're feeling everything and the world sucks.
And they, yeah, I think that's more
where that would be realistic.
Fair enough.
I am manifesting a very lovely, beautiful experience.
Good manifest.
He's laughing right now, what a dick.
It will be the most beautiful thing, I'm sure.
Painless, beautiful, everything will be perfect.
Most asked question was, baby name, baby name.
Tell us the baby name, is there a hint?
What's baby names you haven't used?
So not telling you any of those, you guys,
love you to pieces, but why would I tell you
baby names we haven't used when we would like
a second baby?
I gotta save that.
I will say people have guessed a lot
and no one has gotten it right.
So just know that.
It's not a name you guys are gonna guess.
We are very excited to share it with you.
It's just nice to keep something to ourselves, I think.
So that's our answer to that.
What is our first dream trip to take her as a family?
Dream trip.
I mean, I'm more dreaming about just...
A summer in the Midwest.
Honestly, yeah.
Yeah.
I just like her to go...
I want to rent a sick lake house.
Or buy one.
Well, yeah.
Maybe not right away.
Not right away because we need to get our family house.
But I think that would be super fun.
And then just invite all of our family.
Yeah.
We can stay and hang out and go out in the pontoon.
But then I would love to buy or build a lake house as well.
Yes.
That's our dream.
Yes.
But like ultimately though, I'd say there's a lot of things I want to see here
and things that I know she could go on with us.
Like we talked about going to Sequoia National Park.
Some I really want to see in our California time.
And if we could do that like this fall,
when I can carry her on my chest or back.
And just like, I don't know,
if you think the air is going to smell
and just feel great up there,
just seeing the amazing trees and all that nature.
I think that would be really cool first thing to do
with her at a, you know, carrying age.
Yeah. Before BravoCon.
Yeah, exactly.
Before her first... I don't want her first trip to be to Vegas.
Perfect. I love it.
Luke, will you watch the baby come out?
I haven't asked you this.
No, you haven't. I... Hmm.
You know, Courtney's husband had a good point.
He said something should remain a mystery.
Yeah. And he said he's up by her head the whole time. By Courtney's husband had a good point. He said, something should remain a mystery. And I'm thinking-
He said he's up it by her head the whole time, by Courtney's head, by her face.
I'm not afraid of it, but I do think there may be some benefit to not watching it come
out.
I don't want to watch in a mirror.
I don't at all.
Brittany said she did, and she really liked it because it motivated her to push,
where my sister told me, granted, it's like 30 years ago,
but when my sister gave birth to my niece,
she watched in the mirror, she saw the baby's head start
to come out and then went back in and she panicked.
Like, it's going back inside me.
I'm like, I don't want to see that.
I'm good.
Yeah, I mean, I don't really feel like
I really need to see it.
Are you gonna decide then or are you up in the air?
Or you think you're good?
I mean, I'm up in the air,
but I feel like I'll probably be behind you.
I will cut the umbilical cord.
And depending on the situation,
may have, I don't know where it's skin to skin,
who gets it first or whatever.
If I have a C-section, you will first.
Right, so.
Oh, how is our dates journey coming along?
Well, listen, I like them better than I gave off the first time.
You need to eat more.
Here's the issue, you know, okay?
So now I've been putting peanut butter on them,
and you guys were right, so much better.
It was never the taste, because I like raisins,
and they're like sweet raisins, but it's the texture.
They're like so plump, and they're like sweet raisins, but it's the texture. They're like so plump and they're like not juicy,
but not not juicy.
And it's just a really weird texture.
And they look like cockroaches to me.
So I'm just like not a fan, but I've been cutting them in half
and then like putting peanut butter on them.
My issue now is like, what I've read is they say
to have like six of them a day, it's just too much sugar for me.
You drink a Coke like every day.
It's a different kind of sugar than cheesecake and gummy bears.
Cane sugar, yeah.
Well, you see what I'm saying?
It's not too much sugar.
You just would rather consume your sugar elsewhere.
Yeah, that's true.
So that's how it's coming along.
Favorite pregnancy products.
Oh my gosh, I should do a post about this on Instagram because it'll I think visually it's a lot better
But the pellet ice machine that Tom Schwartz bought me is number one on my favorite pregnancy product
pure mama
belly oil
100% right at the top of the list Luke bought me a belly band
100% right at the top of the list. Luke bought me a belly band that I wish I had been using earlier and more often.
That was really helpful.
There's a couple of bras, my skims, pajama pants, loungewear, certain things like that
I think were my favorite pregnancy products.
You have like 100 pairs of loungewear now, like pregnancy sweatpants.
Yeah, Forever French makes really awesome-
Are you wearing those now? Bamboo. Yes, like pregnancy. Yeah, Forever French. Forever French makes really awesome like-
Are you wearing those now?
Bamboo.
Yes, I am.
Yeah.
Look, I am matching ones.
They have like these bamboo PJs
that are like for the whole family and we live in those.
So I'll make a list, I'll put it on Insta.
Next question, have you loved being pregnant?
I'm 38 and I'm terrified of being too old,
AKA tired for it.
So we know how I feel about being pregnant,
but I have changed my mind a bit now that I'm at the end of it.
At 38, don't be afraid of being too old.
The one thing I would do differently next time
is I would start working out more consistently earlier
in my pregnancy, because I didn't start with Jenna until...
I basically skipped my whole first trimester
because I was just mentally not feeling well,
emotionally and mentally very unwell.
And if I would have pushed myself,
it would have, I think in hindsight,
it would have helped my mood out,
but I was in a really dark place, so I don't really know.
But you're not too old, sleep when you can.
You got this.
That's Luke's biggest piece of advice to me right now is to sleep when I can because I'm
having a difficult time sleeping at night, but during the day, for whatever reason, my
body wants to nap.
So he's like, then that's when you sleep.
Not ideal, but that's what works, you know?
Yep.
You have to take care of yourself.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, baby, what's your birth plan?
Be safe.
Don't die.
Get the baby out safely.
Everyone healthy and happy.
That's it.
That's it.
Epidural or natural?
Fucking drug me up.
Do you guys know me?
Have you met me?
Epidural for sure.
Yes.
Are we gonna hibernate for a few months
or bring the baby out and about?
I thought this was an interesting question
because as much as I'm like crazy psycho
and have looked this up a lot about making baby safe,
the first for sure month in the first two months
of not letting germies around her,
like Kylie Kelsey says, germs are big, baby is small.
But once the safety part is done,
we were talking to our friend David the other day,
who's a solo parent to his son, Ace,
and like not like the mom left him,
but he's gay and he did it on his own.
But David was like, his biggest piece of advice was like,
let the baby be with all of your friends.
Don't keep the baby to yourself
because if you want the baby to be social,
and not be scared.
And I really liked that.
So I would really like to take her everywhere
once it's physically safe.
Right, I think this safety is,
and has been overstated.
I'm not going against you for the first month,
but think about the third or fourth kid
coming into families.
All the other siblings are going to school
around all kinds of kids and germs and all this stuff.
And they have all these other people
all living in the same house.
And yet these other babies end up fine.
And the people that have multiple kids are like,
yeah, oh yeah, I locked them up for basically the first two months
into this second baby, maybe a month, third baby, screw it.
I think we talked to our pediatrician.
I agree. And I'm not saying we don't do the first month.
I just think that the opinion will change
and people that have numerous kids don't feel nearly as protective
as everyone when they have their first.
Yeah.
Are we going to BravoCon?
We sure are.
You can check the list.
Yes, we will be there.
We are confirmed and we will be bringing baby,
but baby will not really be at BravoCon,
but she will be in Vegas with us.
There may be a lucky someone that catches a glance
of my mom pushing the stroller to us.
Yeah, but please don't ask if you can hold the baby.
You cannot. Okay, the answer's no. It'd don't ask if you can hold the baby. You cannot.
OK.
The answer is no.
It'd be like if I asked to hold your baby,
you'd be like, what?
That's weird.
No touching the baby.
Yep.
How do you find, I want you to answer this question too, Luke.
How do you find navigating being excited for a new baby
but grieve previous losses?
And I know you and I feel clearly
have different feelings about this.
Do you have any feelings about this at all?
Which if you don't, it's okay too.
I don't, I think I didn't focus forward.
There's so much positive in our life right now
that it's, and you have to speak from your opinion,
but I'm not looking back like at all.
I will say that it is, it was much more difficult
to navigate in the first trimester.
I think because it was so new,
also the hormones are so heightened.
Again, I was on extra hormones.
I felt guilt for sure in the first trimester
about like, how can I be so happy about this
when this happened almost exactly a year ago?
But then I felt equally guilty
because new baby deserves all the love and excitement
and none of that should be taken away from her
because of a previous loss.
So I battled with that a lot internally.
I will say as time has gone on,
especially like end of second trimester
when I was like feeling her kicking and moving
and it just becomes a lot more real,
I navigating the loss is much easier because there is so much to look forward to.
It's like something I'll never forget about that I still think about often. But I don't
know for me personally, it's kind of like with any loss, it time heals. And so you never
forget but you just hold like a special place for the baby that didn't, you know, that didn't
make it. But it definitely gets easier.
Are your parents excited, babe? Because mine aren't.
Our parents, yeah. Well, my mom.
Your mom, yes. Whole family.
My dad's not dead. He just isn't in my life.
Yeah, my mom and my sister, my brother,
like my whole extended family, everyone's freaking out.
My sister texts me on the daily,
like literally this morning being like,
did you have the baby
already? Because people are speculating on social media because you haven't been posting
as much. If that baby is posted on social media before you text me, I'm like, listen,
psycho. They're very excited.
Very, very excited. My mom cannot wait that she's text me every day. Update, baby still
in there?
I send her things sometimes.
Yeah. Oh, she's super excited. Just talked to her yesterday or the day before on the phone
and she can't wait to come out and meet her.
Okay, just a couple more questions.
Babe, what's the one thing that made you 100% certain
that you wanted to have a child together?
I hate questions like these.
Oh, okay.
Because it's like one thing, pick one thing.
Like it's just only one thing you have to focus on
when there's a whole plethora of...
There's so many great things about me.
He could never choose one.
Exactly. Thank you.
That's a great answer.
Those are the words that I was going to say.
I know.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
What about you?
Oh, same.
There's just so many things about you that are perfect.
We copped out of that question.
All right, next one.
I came up with the answer first.
I believe I was the first one saying it.
You're just so lovely in every way.
I can't think of a reason.
No, but like they want you to pinpoint a certain time.
Like, yeah, I will say there was not like a thing that you did or a time where I just went like an aha moment where I'm like,
I want him to impregnate me.
That's what's up.
No, that didn't happen. But I was like, I want him to impregnate me. That's what's up. No, that didn't happen.
But I was like, I want to be with him forever.
Therefore, hopefully he wants to impregnate me.
Right. And, well, timeline, you were concerned early on
that you were kind of like, look, if we're doing this,
if we're going to be serious
because you didn't want to fuck around in a relationship,
you're like, I want a family and my clock's ticking.
So just know what you're getting into. You're going to be with me. Don't be scared. Yeah. So first of all,
I'm on a reality show. And secondly, I'd really like a baby soon. How do you feel about those two
things? You didn't say my whole life. My life will be turned on its head 180. Because I didn't know.
In two years, two and a half, three years, whatever. Yeah. From the day we started dating.
in two years, two and a half, three years, whatever,
from the day we started dating. Yeah.
And last question, because I love that a couple of you asked this,
is which is of WeHo wine still a thing?
Will there be more? I loved potion number one.
Which is of WeHo wine is still a thing.
You can get it at Knocking Point...
I don't remember the exact website because I'm terrible,
but it's like Knocking Point Wines,
or I think it's like knockingpointwinerie.com, and just go wines. It's like right there, smack dab in the beginning of their homepage.
And we have potion one, two, and three.
You can also buy like a trio pack of like one of each of them.
It's Pinot Grigio, a Rosé, and a Red Blend.
And I'll post that as well.
So I'm still pushing the wine hard.
Might be the only one, but I'm pushing it. So I'm still pushing the wine hard. Might be the only one, but
I'm pushing it. It's good. Drink the wine. It's good. Drink the wine. I just remembered I want to pack champagne in my hospital bag, even though we're not supposed to. I'm doing it. The Dom Perignon
we got for our engagement. Yeah. All right. Let's do it. Awesome. Okay. That's it. Anything else
you want to add, babe? Go Pacers.
Go Pacers before we take our little
maternity paternity break.
Let's go.
We love you guys.
Keep watching the show and we'll talk to you very soon.
Last thing, Valley, Valley, Valley, Valley, Valley.
Valley, Valley, Valley, Valley, Valley.
Love you. Bye.
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