Sex, Love, and What Else Matters - Okay, Fine, We Are Dating

Episode Date: December 21, 2022

Episode 6. Kristen and Luke make dating official and do the damn thing! This week, they take you on a literal road trip for the holidays from California to the Midwest. Kristen reveals her reluctancy to being in a relationship again (but still wanted matching tattoos). Luke spills about his first hangs with the Vanderpeeps, Scheana’s wedding, and his impression of LA life. They talk navigating a long-distance relationship, acknowledge some of their vast differences, why grudges suck, and why consistency is key.  Follow us: @kristendoute @luke__broderick Email us: [e-mail] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Music Are you ready to rumble? Welcome back y'all to Sex Love Him What Else Matters. We are back y'all. Hi Luke. Hi Chris. I'm super excited. I could tell. Yeah, I was just saying how much I enjoy having a mic

in my hand now. When we first started, I know there was a lot to improve on. This is a totally new realm for me. And I still have a long ways to go to really be good at this. But I'm getting a lot more comfortable and getting excited when I get to grab the mic. You're soups excited right now. That's for day and show.

I'm ready. Let's get this. Ready to rumble, apparently. Yeah. Okay, you guys, it's been a flippin' day, to say the least. A day full of lists, I am a list maker. We are recording far before the day

that you're gonna hear this, which is normally all podcasts go to be honest. By the time that you hear this, we will be embarking on the longest road trip of my life. And I did drive here when I moved to LA, BT Dubs. 2007. I drove, well, I passengered from Michigan to Los Angeles. But you didn't go round trip. That is trip. And that's what we're Michigan to Los Angeles. But you didn't go round trip. That is trip.

And that's what we're about to embark on. Actually, when you hear this, we will be in Indiana. What are we getting ourselves into? What am I getting into? Literally, y'all, we are driving from California. I am driving. You are driving. Chris is driving.

Because it's a truck and I don't do that. Luckily for you and your safety, we're driving from California to Colorado, from Colorado to Indiana, from Indiana to Michigan, and then all the way, the F's back to Los Angeles. We sure are. And for all you eco-friendly people out there, my truck is Flex Fuel.

I filled it up with the E85, so less emissions, you know, all that good stuff. Oh, thank you. Hey, I mean, truck doesn't get good gas mileage. Not really many trucks do. Listen, it's cheaper than getting someone to babysit for our dogs and flying and flight prices are insane. And also Luke was like, this will be an experience. It's going to be so cool.

Love memories. We will. cool, we'll love memories. We will. I know I agree. No, we really will, I'm being a dick. Say no one will disagree whether or not it is the most enjoyable thing you've ever done, which I don't think it will be, but it's gonna be a bit...

The most enjoyable? Obviously, it's not gonna be. I think, no, I think it's gonna be great. I've been in a car, just so you guys know, I have been in a car with Luke for 16 hours before. We have done one road trip One leg two Colorado. So why don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say I would fucking hate it. I didn't say you'd hate it I said okay, I'm saying it's not going to be the pinnacle of the most fun you've ever had

That's the only statement I'm making what if it is then why are you trying to put it out in the universe Luke? I'm gonna hate it Lord then why are you trying to put it out in the universe Luke? I'm gonna hate it. Lord, we... Oh, why are you thinking that? Why are you thinking that? You think it's a hate like that? I just know where it needs to go. I'm just kidding.

Okay. I'm just messing with you. No, but it has been a flipping day. I just want to say something super fast because we want to talk about some awesome things but I just want to pay my respects and rest and paradise to Steven, Twitch, boss, Twitch.

Steven Boss, who is Twitch, I was very emotional this morning. It's been a weird day. So I just want to say a rest in paradise. And please check on your friends. Check on your loved ones because even your happiest of friends could be struggling with something that you are not aware of. Unfortunately, suicide has been super shitty over the last couple of years, specifically during the pandemic.

I've had friends who have crossed over in that way. So. Yeah, it's been a tough time. And definitely check on the friends you think don't need it because they're probably the ones that do. Exactly. Luke, how are you doing? You're good?

Fan, fucking, fantastic. OK. I'm doing well. I mean, yeah, I had a, anyway, we're going to move forward. So we're actually recording this on a Wednesday, the Wednesday before, because we are leaving tomorrow on a road trip. And obviously, if you guys listen to our podcast, you know that we have acknowledged we're more than just buds. Yeah, and put that into more context. Of the last six weeks, I've spent five and a half here in Christen's apartment. We'll stay in here.

Obviously, we get out of the apartment, but... He has been chained into my apartment. I've chained him here. He's not a legal leave. Hmm. I wish you'd use some chains on me. Oh, Lord. Come on.

Oh, Lord. Show me what you got some chains on me. Oh, Lord. Come on. Oh, Lord. Show me what you got. Show me what you got, girl. You're the one who mailed restraints that are under my mattress on my bed to my house. Sure did, homie. Yeah, you did, homie. So yeah, Luke and I are fucking dating.

You guys were dating. And all of my friends who have listened to our podcast are like, yeah, it sounds really obvious. But as I said at the end of our last podcast, we were not lying to you guys. It truly, I battled with being like your person. I love you so much, but just the thought of being someone's girlfriend again,

just kind of threw me through a loop because I want to be a wife and I want to be a mother. Most of all, I just want to be a mother and a partner. And I'm just so tired of being a girlfriend for a couple of years and then having shipped all part to be honest. You know this. Yeah. And you also told me that you did. You tried really hard not to fall in love with me and not to let this become a thing because of my age, because of the distance, because of these factors

that when you think about it logically, it's like how can this work? Should we lose all the factors so people are like, super aware? Yeah, well, I didn't even throw in that your vegetarian and I have grown up hunting and fishing and I like, I get most of my own protein from the planet.

Yeah, it's protein. Protein. Yeah, I mean, and some of you have commented on my Instagram, like I read, we listen, we hear your comments, but yes, I'm 39, Luke is 31. Correct. I live in California. I live in Colorado.

It's far away, but yes, Luke loves to hunt and fish. I am an animal advocate. I'm a vegetarian since I was 11 years old. And that truly was the one thing that was like a little difficult for me in the beginning. Right after we met at the wedding or like hung out at the wedding, we had sex, all of that. I start following him up Luke on Instagram. And I see the hunting photos, which you guys will not see because I convinced Luke to make a separate Instagram account. So for you trolls out there, hopefully none of you are listening or tell all your friends. But for the people that aren't kind, I just didn't want Luke to have to subscribe to

like the scrutiny that I essentially, I guess chose to deal with being on reality TV. I don't know, I didn't really choose that, but just like the unkindness because he's such a kind, loving, good-hearted person who knows nothing about this world in Los Angeles, the podcast world, the reality TV world, the Instagram world that I have chose to live in, right? We all know that, I made that choice.

He didn't deserve it. So I asked him, I recommended that he make a separate Instagram account. Anyway, when I looked at Luke's Instagram for the first time, I was like, cool dude, cool, cool. It's a lot of hunting, a lot of hunting stuff. A lot of, I'm so happy that you have a passion project. I love your hobbies.

Good for you, you seem happy. However, I don't know how this is going to fly with me. I feel like we dealt with it pretty quickly though. But in the beginning, it was a little weird. How do you feel? You know, I think I called it out first, though, because I saw that you started following me because I think was I private at the time? Yeah. Yeah. So I accepted that and I think I immediately texted you how much do you hate my hunting features? You literally said how much do you hate my hunting pictures? You literally said how much do you hate my Instagram and I said I fucking hate it.

Exactly. Well, because half the pictures are probably fishing and hunting. Yeah. And then I got really curious as I am. Mm-hmm. And asked me all the questions she doesn't want answers to. So I'd stop her and know. And say just the hat.

Yeah. And say you really don't want to hear this. Yeah. So, I mean, she doesn't want to talk to a butcher either. Yeah. So, I don't. And I actually have a friend, one of my best friends, who's a chef, who is a butcher, if you will. One of my best friends, Janine, my vegetalic blog, when I had that blog, my partner, she is

also actually a butcher. But yeah, I don't want to hear about that shit. So it is like tough, I won't lie. However, I know that the way that you are about that is like, it's something that's very important to you. And I know that you're not just like some murderer. Yeah, absolutely not. I'm a conservationist. Which I love.

More than a hunter. And for those that don't know, the majority of money that goes into conservation does come from hunting and fishing licenses. That preserves land to stay wild. That helps with endangered species. That helps with a lot of things that, you know, most people don't understand. Most people think hunters are these, kill everything, bloodthirsty people.

Anywho, sorry to cut you off about the whole hunting situation. But you guys, yes, we hear you. We see you. I know Luke is a hunter and a fisherman, I'm vegetarian. We got it. It's not the end of the fucking world. She doesn't even eat fish.

No. It's a tragedy. I'm good on that. But you're the tits. Like you're awesome. You're cool. If that's the one thing I have to overlook because you're not a cheating, lying bastard piece of shit.

Oh, well, he likes to hunt sometimes. Wow, I guess I should just knock him off my list. Ladies, you'll live and learn, okay? Yeah, a couple of weeks out of the year, I do something that you don't 100% agree with. And I don't wanna hear about it. Yeah, and you don't wanna hear about it. Let's move on.

Easy agreement. I'm also not a trophy guy. There's no trophy room. I don't wanna hang a skull or a taxidermy deer in the living room or anywhere like that. I have to do that. You know, one day in a barn or garage or man cave area, I have some antlers, but it's not the purpose. Cool.

Let's move on. Anyway, okay, we can move on. Great, great topic, Luke. Yeah. So I'm just gonna say, there was this moment that I realized when I when I finally gave in to like us and how much love there was and just like how awesome our friendship was and how comfortable, how easy, how relaxed I felt with you. For fuck's sake, we got matching tattoos. Yes, we did. When I stopped clawing my way out of my last relationship, I found you.

Immediately. And I have been tried to be as understanding as I can. And I hope that has felt that way. But there were, I've been frustrating times that I kind of got the feeling, the gut feeling you were going on these other dates and I just felt this spark from the very beginning. And you would always say, how are you sure?

How do you know? And I would say, you know, I don't even know how to say how you know. Sometimes it just smacks you in the face and you're like, wow, this is rare, this is something I need to pursue. There's this deeper connection immediately and I didn't, couldn't put it all into words, you know. And that's why I've been telling you from the beginning. It's like, you kept asking, well, how do you know?

How do you know? Because I don't want to go through this thing. You're so young, I don't want you to decide you want someone younger, blah, blah, blah, blah. I didn't say prettier, but I definitely said younger. I didn't say prettier. I know I was joking. It was a dumb joke. I like to make really beautiful moments uncomfortable because I'm about to cry, that's so sweet. Oh, and you're, yeah. But yeah, like why?

I think you, thanks, babe, appreciate it. I hope you think so. Okay, so, anyway, let's wrap that up. Yeah, let's wrap it up. We then talked and I said, I would come out to see her in California and she had just gotten this apartment and she hadn't gotten her bed frame or bed yet.

So I said, okay, as soon as you get your bed, I'll come out and see you and she's like, it'll be your Saturday. I said, okay, that's like three days. How about like a few days after that? And fourth of July I was in between, so less than two weeks after, it was probably like a week and a half, 10 days after I

Come out to California to see her for the first time. Mm-hmm. Out here at your place. I want to see what the life of Chris and Doty was like. Yeah, oh my god. That's something I really want to talk about. Like what were your thoughts? Did you have any weird expectations? Were you like weirded out? Were you nervous about meeting my friends? Were you like, I'm gonna hate these people? No, completely open-minded. I think when you're like, I'm gonna hate these people. No, completely open-minded.

I think when you said expectations, you set yourself up for disappointment. Totally. That's what I do. Just came in super open-minded, wanted to see what this world was like, because I knew it was a totally different world than what I'm from or anything I've experienced as far.

And Christmas and really cool friends, that first trip, we went to, in in one night went to Jackson's birthday party and then Went to Tom Santa Ball's birthday party same. Oh, yeah. Oh my god. Yeah you guys holy fuck because at the time Jackson's Santa Ball were like totally buds again and So we went to Jackson's birthday party that Brittany threw for him It was a surprise party in our favorite bar of the Belmont in West Hollywood. And I aided Brittany just like helping her out with that as best I could. And then because Jackson and Brittany have a baby, like obviously we all went to Jackson

and Brits after. We had so much fun, but then they're like, we're tired. We have a baby. We have to bed. Everyone out by like 10 o'clock. It was 10 and Jackson's like, all right, everyone out. Yeah. It's over.

We're done. And so because God bless the valley, we're like, well, Santa Valls birthday is down the street to let it go. And of course, I love Tom and Ariana. Everyone that's backing for Vander Pomp T. I love Tom and Ariana. And Tom being my ex-boyfriend has no weight on this at all. Like we broke up 10 years ago or something.

So we went to Tom's birthday party at their house. And you had a blast. Yeah, yeah, at a ball. It was great. I met one of my best California friends now, they're Kyle Chan. Shout out to Kyle Chan. Kyle Chan Design on Instagram, his jewelry store.

Super cool guy. we play ping pong when we can line it up. I love that you made your own friend, even though he's my friend too, but you made your own friendship that I wasn't even aware of for a second. That Kyle and I were DMing talking about ping pong. Yeah.

So, Chris and I want to talk about our trip to Joshua Tree. You remember that vividly? Yeah. So, Chris and I want to talk about our trip to Joshua Tree. Mm-hmm. You remember that vividly? Yeah, you brought the rain to the desert, actually. That did happen. There were flash flood warnings in the desert. It's pretty well. In Joshua Tree, y'all.

Yeah, it made for some pretty awesome views. We saw lightning out in the distance and stars above us and then rain rolled in. It was a magical, amazing night. How do you ever been to Joshua Tree before that or Palm Springs or anything? Nope, my California experience before that was only Los Angeles and San Francisco. Okay, so we went to Joshua Tree

for our friend Janet's birthday. We stayed at Hicksville. I don't know if you guys know what that is, but essentially it's a trailer park area. Yeah, it's a bunch of campers. They've got an in-ground pool, a community grill, picnic area. It's a really cool place. They've got all the games, shuffle board, they have a pup pup course.

BB guns and shooting bows and arrows. Right, and there's archery and a fire pit. It's just a really cool place. Bows and arrows are actually the same thing. Same, same. I volunteer as tribute. No, it was really fantastic. And it was our first road trip. Definitely, our first road trip.

And with the LA traffic after we dropped your dogs off, it took twice what it was supposed to take us. Like four, I took like four hours. Yeah, four more, right. It was really fun though. It was fun. Was that the first time I brought you out as like here's this guy I'm like definitely sort of with like in front of my friends? No, the first time I flew in just after

fourth of July and then that's when Janet invited me to, right, the same trip that we went to the birthday parties. That was like three weeks prior, all of those times. And then you came back for this Joshua Tree thing because Janet personally invited you. Right. And it felt much more cupily. It did, but at the same time, I got some weird vibes from you at times because they were single girls there.

And you would say to me, because I was just mingling with everybody there meeting all these new people, she's like, so do you wanna to hook up with someone else here? And I was like, are you crazy? You think I flew to California and rode down to Joshua Tree to try to hook up with someone else? What kind of guy do you think I am?

I think it was a mixture of me not being ready to claim someone as my boyfriend and also sort of a defense mechanism. Like if you were not as into me as I feel in my heart, I would rather just say like, if you were not as into me as I feel in my heart, I would rather just say, like, oh yeah, you know, there's this check over there, like, do you like anyone here? I don't know. That is weird that I said that, but I very much.

I think it was the one, the weirdest things any girl has ever said to me when I've been somewhat with them. Obviously, we weren't together together, but can't, but I think that's what was so confusing though. We were so relaxed and easy and chill, and like BFFs on the phone, but we were having sex, but we didn't see each other every single day. We went night and close.

No, like for a few, you know, a week at a time, or a few days at a time, weeks in between and I always told you I don't care what you do and I'm not around but I don't want to hear about it Right you told me that over and over and actually One yeah pushed me into I only went on one day after Kristen and I had sex the first time at the wedding And it was really never would have even happened if christen didn't basically constantly repeat that do whatever you want when we're not around each other just don't tell me. And also being like, I'm not ready for any kind of commitment. I

wasn't really pushing it, but she knew in my position I was I had my mind made up already. I will agree with you. You definitely never pushed anything on me. You were just persistent. Your consistent. That's key. Which is what made me fall in love with you. But the persistency definitely made me state interested in you.

I know that at the time, I really, I'm this like, I'm a creature of habit where I fight against what was wrong in my last relationship or like moving from this whole relationship gypsy thing that you and I talked about many episodes ago. That is just, I don't know, it's not in my DNA, but it's like in my nature for sure. It's what I do. I don't love being alone. I love connection. And I just had this feeling like, oh man, I'm falling for this guy now and he doesn't even live here. And I'll find a way to make that work because I love being in love.

And I was hell-bent on being single. I didn't want to hurt you either because I knew that you really liked me, not to sound like a dickbag. And I knew I really liked you. I just felt like I had to get some shit out of my system. Yeah, and you didn't want to make this, continue to make the same mistakes. It would be very hot.

And if you're in the past, these relationships haven't worked out. You also verbalized to me very clearly that it was an unreasonable expectation, I think. But you told me you don't want to do what you just did again. You didn't want to have a boyfriend for years that just decides you're not good enough, dumps you, and tries to move on. And my age was a fear for you.

It was. Because you're like, you have all this time. And I'm like, I mean, from where I'm from, I'm like the last single guy in my class that doesn't have a kid. And I feel like I'm older than you feel like I am. And that's where the conversation came in about how old you are in maturity when you live in a big city versus living in the more rural or suburbs.

Yeah, your maturity versus your actual physical years on earth. Right. Totally. Yeah, so all of those things were a factor for me at the time. I felt like I had to get dating out of my system, and I was very afraid that I was just latching on to someone that felt so comfortable, so easy, so amazing, so perfect, that it was just gonna go wrong,

and I had to sort of turn my cheek at it. And I think there's nothing wrong. It wasn't fun at times being on my side, knowing that you had some going on some other dates. But I didn't tell you those things. During the time we did not talk about that. No, but when we talk every day, you can pick up on some things. Okay.

I mean, there was time I remember you were going to Venice and you said you were going to go see a friend and then it was super weird on the phone. I was like, you know, how was Venice when you called me on your way back and you're like, oh, it was fine. I did this and this and you were super short and didn't tell me any details in tell me who you were with. I'm like, okay, she was on a date or she was with a guy. Because you always would be like, oh, I was with Janine.

I was with Cassia. Just the way you would tell me things, it was obvious to me when you would just kind of skip past some things. Yeah, it's a really weird purgatory to be in. Not to like make us sound negative, but it's a weird purgatory, weird interim, weird middle ground to live in when you're really falling for someone, but you want to be going on dates with other people, you have connections with other people. That is why I am a relationship gypsy. Now I know, because I can't fucking date multiple people. I just can't do it.

In order to die, I wasn't like dating like a bunch of dudes and like I didn't have a roster where it was like, on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I go see that guy and then on this day, you know what I mean? But I did it to be very blunt and not to drag it out, but I did have a connection with someone that I was hanging out with, but it was like I definitely noticed

that I was trying to force that to happen in order not to fall for you. And I think that's what it all came down to. I was so scared of falling in love again because I was so afraid that if this doesn't last, I'm going to be hurt yet again and just repeat this whole pattern of breakups I'm so afraid that if this doesn't last, I'm going to be hurt yet again and just repeat this whole pattern

of breakups finding someone new, breaking up finding someone new. I think that's fair because on paper, if you think logically about it, you and I probably shouldn't work if you try to just spell it all on paper, it doesn't make any sense to anybody, I don't think sometimes.

It's the intangibles. Because at the time, I mean, I'm living a thousand miles from you. We come from totally different worlds. It's just timing is everything, is all I'm going to say. And that we found each other at a time in each other's lives that we had this flexibility. And we were in a restart mode. And we have this opportunity to build something together.

And that turns out to be what we're doing. We'll get into some other trips that we made, times we saw each other. Yeah, we have a lot of fun trips to talk about. Okay, heading out now to start this road trip, we're going to check back in with you in a little. What a wild week. We're in Indiana right now.

We just went on a 30 hour road trip. With four dogs in my truck across, I don't know, a lot of states from Los Angeles to Indiana with the Colorado stop in the middle and we're going to Michigan in a few days. Yeah, but also this is not the first time we've met each other's family. Nope, nope. I convinced Kristen to fly out here for a quick trip. This was how many months ago? August, so five, four, four months ago?

Two months after the first time we slept together. Yep. And I was really nervous. So I was going to Michigan. I just wanted to see my family. Y'all, I hate coming out here to the Midwest for the holidays because it's freezing. I live in California for a reason. But I've not been able for so many years to go to Michigan because prior to the pandemic,

I was shooting Vanderpump rules every single summer. It was a non-negotiable that we could leave town before the summer was over. So it was really nice to just say, oh my God, my best friend has a boat now, my best friend Amy. I could go see my family, experience the gorgeousness of Michigan summers. And yeah, it was in Indiana at the time. Yeah, so I convinced sort of fly into Indianapolis. I picked her up. We spent a couple days here.

She met some of my friends, Decent bit of my family. Just the things that I normally do when I'm here, hanging out with my friends and seeing my family. With a girl you've casually been seen. Yeah, also told you though. It's like, I've told you though, with my family, they're so chill and as much as I've been single, my mom specifically and my dad, I guess, have met girls that, you know, early on. This is okay. Can I just say how you ordered it? You said, oh my God, I guess, have met girls that early on. This is, hey, can I just say how you were today?

You said, oh my God, don't even worry. My parents, my family has met so many girls that were not my girlfriends. Ha, great. Yeah, don't sweat it. You're not my girlfriend yet, so. Yeah, you're just, don't worry. Don't worry.

Basically, my parents understand we're just sleeping together and it's going to be totally chill. That's exactly where you went in here. And it was totally chill, wasn't it? No, it was very chill and easy. Yeah, see? And I then, I too were at it the same way in my family group chat. This is exactly what I said.

Just so you guys know, Luke is not my boyfriend. Yeah, I mean, it was, yeah. And they all laugh. Not only seeing each other a couple of times, and I don't know, we had a good time. We downplayed it to each other, to our family's been like, no, no, no, no, we're not dating. We're just, you know, sleeping together and we're friends.

We talk all the time and Kristen went to see her family. It's so close to me. We did everything ask backwards. Yeah, whatever works, I guess. Yeah. That's kind of what you said in the beginning, you're like, if we last, what did you say? We'll be married with kids before we ever start dating. That was Greg. Oh, Greg said that. Greg said, I think you two are going to be married with kids before you ever

start dating. Yeah, Greg and Rachel, you guys back to episode one, if you're not familiar with my group of friends, but that was the wedding we essentially met at, if you will. Yeah, we were kind of doing it backwards. Wait, really quick, did you have any worries for this road trip? So you and I just over and over, we've done two road trips together. We did like a quick five hours from Indiana to Michigan. Then I did do it with you and your dogs 14 hours to Colorado. 16. Okay. With the stops. Were you worried about this road trip being that it was like three, four days your dogs 14 hours to Colorado. 16. Okay.

What the stops. Were you worried about this road trip being that it was like three, four days all the way to the Midwest and we still have to go back to LA you guys. We could still kill each other. No, I'm not worried. Honestly, the first time we were a little chippy early on in the first road trip, but we got over that and. Yeah, I was about to say we got like, and just over when I was like we have been in some tiffs

very few But we have we've had tiffs Already Meaning like we're not this many months in and we're like our life's so glorious around these awesome road trips We have a podcast. We're a perfect. No, no, no, no We had a tip on a road trip, but we got over it like so quickly. Yep. Fucking communication, y'all. I swear to God. That bled. And don't hold grudges. Grudges hurt you. Whoever holds the grudge is the person carrying weight that, I mean, you're holding your grudge doesn't hurt the other person.

I don't know why people think it does. It doesn't work that way. You're right. That's actually the best point. It's the grudge thing. Yeah. You got irritable on that one trip and then I sort of like popped off at you because you got irritable and then we both got really stubborn, which as a tourist he is, he's stubborn,

but I'm just stubborn anyway. I'm sure a lot of just people are, fuck astrology at times. We were both being stubborn and we were kind of quiet for like maybe five minutes in the car and it just made it awkward and shitty and it was like, dude, like enough. We're both just going to be miserable if we stand our ground and we hold a grudge, right? Yep, I definitely didn't want to. And it worked out. We got over it. The rest of the trip was great. It was fantastic. We got where we were going and we hold a grudge, right? Yep, I definitely didn't want to. And it worked out, we got over it.

The rest of the trip was great, it was fantastic. We got where we were going and we had sex. So, you know, everything was great. Yeah, so now we're here. We're in Indiana, we made it. And we just had Christmas with part of your family, which was wild. I've met some of them before.

Yeah, my dad's mom, my grandma. And your sister who lives out of town in her way. And her lease, yeah. Yeah. So we are in Indiana now with the four dogs for a few more days. And then we're going to road trip it up to Michigan and Luke's going to be the rest of my family that he hasn't met because he has met my mom, my sister. You've faced time with my brother. So we're doing all of that. And then we eat the rest of my family, that he hasn't met, because he has met my mom, my sister, you've faced him with my brother. So we're doing all of that, and then we're gonna turn the fuck back around and drive 2,500 miles back to California.

Yes, but less aggressively. I wanted to switch over, or at least step back to the Mexico trip. Sheena's wedding. Oh yeah, I don't know if I've said that yet or not, but when sheena's Mexico episode comes up on Vanderpump, Luke came with me. Yeah, and how much heads up did you give me to come? Eight hours, 12 hours? It was 16 hours from when the flight was booked to when I boarded. Okay. Yeah. But you were out on the lake with friends. Yeah, I was at a party in Indiana.

And Kristen and I talked like briefly, it was a short drive. And I was like, you know, even though I couldn't go the wedding, if I, you know, if we had figured this out, I could have gone fishing during the wedding and still been down there with you. And she's like, well, it's never too late. It sends me a screenshot. Yeah, it was never too late. I'm just like laughing out loud.

And she sends me a screenshot of a flight. It was like less than $500 round trick last second to Cancun. And she's like, what do you think? Does this work? I'm the fastest Googler on the face of the planet. This is my ADHD. Like, as I'm thinking about things, I'm already putting them into motion. And so as we were having that conversation, I just googled it. What would this flight look like from Indianapolis to Cancun and back? So I said, all right, if you're serious,

I left the party, went and found my passport, and you know, book, Kristen actually booked the flight for me. I've been motor for the flight. And yeah, I went to Mexico the next day, and we had a good time there. I caught the garter at the wedding. You did, and she and I went to Mexico the next day and we had a good time there. I caught the garter at the wedding. You did and Shina threw the bouquet straight to me.

She tried to. She tried to. Failed. Didn't work out for me, but she really tried. And I don't want to give too much weight. Well, you guys can watch Shina's vlog and see so much about her wedding. I don't want to give away anything that might or may or may not be on the episode.

Why do I give a fuck? I don't know. But it's not about that. It's, you got to go to Mexico with me and just be away from life. And it was so much fun and it was so amazing. And then be around sort of the life that I used to live. Right. The cameras. I'm not, it was not at all used to the cameras, and I certainly felt they were certain people. So everyone else knows I was not expecting to go to the wedding. One of the bridesmaids' mothers broke her leg. Janet's mom, you guys, it was horrible.

Her mom broke her leg. We all witnessed it at the pool. I ran into the pool. We ran into got the lifeguard, all the whole thing. She, so she couldn't go to the wedding, and then they're like, oh, they're just seat for you, Luke. I'm like, cool, I didn't bring clothes to go to a wedding.

And I'm the most underdressed person there by such a long shot. I need a haircut. I'm wearing like a polo and shorts and everyone else's in dresses and nice clothes. And I definitely fell some judging eyes on me, which is what it is. And there are cameras everywhere

and producers running around. And it's, I think they're just jealous because you're so hot, but I can feel your pain. I know what you mean, to be uncomfortable like that. And I'm sorry, but you're so handsome.

Yeah, I mean, it's not your fault. But you stuck with it, you stuck by me as long as you could, and dealing with all of that craziness that you are not familiar with. Yeah, and that was kind of next level craziness. I'm gonna say this, but Chris and Jack's were definitely both kind of in their heads about being around cameras,

and not on the show. It was somewhat of a... Okay, I'll just say, Jack's and I fought the entire weekend in Mexico. We fought the entire time because he took it all out on me. This is how I feel. And Jack snows this. And I feel that he just took it out on everyone that it was going to be emotionally, you know, triggering. And it was going to be uncomfortable. I'm willing to say that it was emotionally triggering for me. But I think that was something Jacks wasn't ready for. and therefore he took everything out on me and he hats off to Jacks, apologize to me after Mexico,

just saying like, he wasn't really prepared to sort of be around that again when we're not in it. And I think that that's like super fucking mature of him. And it was weird, it was hard. Yeah, I could tell. I was there, I saw it. I couldn't miss one of my best friends weddings, especially when I had been to her first one,

and it was really shitty for me. And like, I, you know, I just wanted to be there and celebrate China. And having you there by my side was so epic, not only because I was essentially gonna be alone in a room with Brittany Jackson crews like in the other room and like Janet being a bridesmaid, I was just gonna be my fucking self in Kingcune. So I just wanted my best friend by my side and that was you.

I was happy to go and the best thing about the whole trip wasn't the wedding. It was two days after it when you arranged this boat rental and we went out into this insanely clear, awesome water. Well, we had a four or five hour charter. We went swimming, snorkeling. It was such an awesome experience to cap it all off. And honestly, for my personal experience down there,

without that, overall wasn't going to be a super positive experience. Yeah, the boat trip was the best. Just to be totally honest because that's how I am. If we didn't do the boat trip. Actually we got to a point where Christen was waiting on responses from her friends and I said why does that matter? We book this boat if they come cool. Let's just go and go on things. Yeah let's do it. Who cares? Why are we waiting for other people's opinions to make a decision here and in no decision to end up being made if we don't do this. You're right.

And then it happened. And yeah. We went swimming. We had the best time. We ended up with really shitty fire coral rush. Yeah, we have some fire coral rush. But now we know don't touch the moring ropes. The ropes that are guarding the edge of private beaches.

Don't touch them. Don't touch them guys. I'll post photos. Less alert. Now, actually, touch them. I'll post photos. Less alert. Actually, I will. I'll post some photos of my ass and my legs, not only fans but on my Instagram.

And I will show you guys exactly what this horrific situation looks like. And lasted weeks. But well worth it. Yeah. For our sanity. And I'm just glad you got to get a peek at what my life was and what my life is. And to be prepared for things like those situations and that sort of wildness, I guess. And you're still here.

I am. You didn't scare me off. That was the closest time. What is this? I kept it until it was scared me off. Yeah, honestly, the next good trip. Oh, man. It was wild.

But, thank goodness the boat trip happened. Oh, man. It was wild. But thank goodness the boat trip happened. Yeah. And we kept talking every day since. And here we are in Indiana doing a family Christmas trip together driving an insane amount of miles. It'll end up being around 5,000 miles round trip in two weeks. So.

You know what it is, Luke, to wrap this up. You are relaxed. You're easy. you're comfortable, so patient. Keep going. Keep going. And you're hot and like you're gorgeous and your body's awesome and your penis and like all the stuff. But I really think it's just we really like to have fun. Yeah. We're so playful and stupid and we have so much fun and mostly your patient mostly I'm patient mostly your patient with me. Yeah, well, I know it can be difficult I spent the entire month of November with my dogs and Kristen's apartment and

It went great. Honestly, I don't know if I've there's ever been someone that I've dated and spent that much time around them without having to run and get away and spend more time by myself or just being at each other's threats. And it's such a good sign and good feeling. Yeah, we don't fight. I mean, we don't, we disagree. We just get over it.

That's the key. We work it out and we get over it. Plus, we have matching tattoos. So, I know you can always cover yours up since it's on your leg next to your awesome hustle tattoo But because you can't cover it up your tattoo on your arm. I'd be weird. What it you're wearing sleeves now I don't I don't have a tattoo sleeve. It's like one of the biggest tattoos I have Yeah, okay. Well, I'm just saying we got matching tattoos on the way home from Joshua tree guys. Yeah, it's this awesome moon

We'll post a picture. We will. So being the Kristen that I am, the me and me, I would like to wrap this up with a dumb quote. And it is not live-life love, but it's something that I wrote down amongst all of the playlists and songs that I have free. Do I know?

Do I have to be sure wedding? I just read this quote one day and it resonated with me and I wrote it down. And I'm fucking emo. This is who I am. Love me for who I am you guys. You came to me to give me wings not to clip them. That's fantastic quote.

And that's exactly what I want. I want the best for you. I want you to literally live all of your dreams and I want to experience them with you. And I love that you want me to spread my wings and fly and accomplish my goals and live my dreams as well. So, it's awesome. I just want freedom for the both of us separately, but then together.

Together and individual successes while being together as I should. Yeah, you can have boys nights and shit. Celebrate each other, yeah. But, you know, don't push them below. Okay, guys, thanks for listening to our awesome little story. And now I feel much more free to just be free and honest and awesome. And I will say we said this in the beginning of this episode.

But in the beginning, we were never lying to you. We just weren't sure. We're not speaking to a vacuum. It's a damn microphone. But one of my best friends did text me and said, hmm, you said close bay to spade, but you're not being honest about Luke on the podcast. But it was because I was only being honest

with like two people. So now we're honest with you and we're dating and we're best friends and we're still gonna be the same. And next time I just wanna answer a bunch of questions. and we're best friends, and we're still gonna be the same. And next time I just wanna answer a bunch of questions. And also, this doesn't change the fact that we're gonna talk about our past relationships and experiences either.

We essentially did that the entire road trip here, by the way. Right. Kristen loves to stalk anybody I've hooked up with in the past or talk to or dated briefly or any other talk. Oh my God, I need briefly or they need it. I need it. When I don't have a boyfriend that's dishonest and disloyal that I can stock, I need to hear about other people's issues.

And I just, I need a good stocking session. And you got that. Send them my way. Yep, let's wrap this up. Thanks for listening, everybody. Thank you for listening. Thank you for loving us and trusting us. And we're going to do an AMA very soon And we just love you guys and I hope you're having like the most safe and like awesome holidays and traveling safely

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